[00:00] <kaosine> Bashing-om: maybe I'd be better off in -server channel....since this is supposed to be a server install on a old computer for a personal type deal
[00:01] <Bashing-om> kaosine: Well, there is the #ubuntu-server channel here .
[00:02] <kaosine> Bashing-om: yeah thought of that after the fact, so asked there right before you joined
[00:03] <kaosine> Bashing-om: I'd put the install on a cd but mine are a max 700mb last I checked XD
[00:03] <Bashing-om> kaosine: :) I do try and follow through ... I be the 1st to say I am not a know-it-all .
[00:05] <kaosine> neither am I.....though I'm contemplating converting this computer to ubuntu or lubuntu but I need to get some money to renew my license for crossover and change it to linux so I have a way to run stuff on there XD
[00:05]  * kaosine really hates the fact school forces him to use windows only software >_<
[00:06] <Bashing-om> kaosine: join #ubuntuforums . See if you can get CharlesA's attention . He is some kind of sharp on linux/servers/ school .
[00:09] <kaosine> Bashing-om: well I'm wondering if it's the fact I had to use ubootnetin since I'm on mac(only on it since mom bought the original one for college and they replaced this one right as it was going out of warranty and now has another 2 years of life or so in warranty)
[00:10] <Bashing-om> kaosine: Possible . seen a few issues making up a menum with ubootnetin . maybe try and make it up with some other tool .. does not Mac support 'dd' ?
[00:12] <kaosine> Bashing-om: never heard of that
[00:13] <Bashing-om> kaosine: Ya got time to see if 'dd' is on your Mac ? and a spare USB drive you can attempt to write to ?
[00:18] <thebope> Hello, I just set up an AWS EC2 instance with Amazon's Ubuntu 16.04 image and used "cut -d: /etc/passwd" to see a list of all users. I'm curious as to why there's an irc user on the default installation? And is there a resource somewhere to read about why all these different users exist, how to work with them, etc?
[00:20] <amflir> how can I forward all the traffic that goes to ethx to tun0?
[00:20] <amflir> *goes and come
[00:21] <nacc> thebope: that user probably can't login, and is for running ircd
[00:22] <thebope> ahhh okay, thanks nacc, that makes sense
[00:23] <nacc> thebope: it probably is not installed or available by default (ircd), but maybe common enough and its just there -- shouldn't really do any harm, afaict
[00:23] <k1l> thebope: its set to "nologin" as login shell
[00:25] <kaosine> can anyone else help me with understanding why I get this error? it's telling me that "lvmetad is not active yet, using direct activation during sysinit" and just hanging there when trying to install
[00:25] <ia__> thebope, not an exact answer, but http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/197155 TL;DR - "stub" users for daemons due to security reasons (e.g., drop privileges)
[00:26] <Sepher_> hey
[00:26] <k1l> kaosine: is this the install? or the insatlled system?
[00:27] <kaosine> k1l: trying to install
[00:28] <npco> alias update1='sudo apt-get update -y && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y && sudo apt autoremove ;' The autoremove part is not going through, can you tell me why/??
[00:28] <k1l> kaosine: did you try nomodeset?
[00:29] <kaosine> k1l: can't even tell how or where to set that in the installer....it just comes up to this screen
[00:29] <OerHeks> maybe encrypted lvm ?
[00:30] <kaosine> OerHeks: IDK just used unetbootin to make it bootable on my mac....
[00:30] <nacc> npco: did any of the previous commands return non-zero?
[00:30] <k1l> unetbootin is known to have issues. try using dd
[00:31] <kaosine> k1l: how would I do it? I have no clue how to use it even using what I found...
[00:32] <OerHeks> dd the iso or etcher http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/05/etcher-usb-image-burner-tool-linux-open-source
[00:32] <orsysbackup> kaosine: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-create-disk-image-on-mac-os-x-with-dd-command/
[00:32] <kaosine> of course my computer won't let me delete whats already on the drive now >_<
[00:35] <k1l> kaosine: no need to delete, dd will just overwrite it.
[00:35] <npco> nacc What is non zero?
[00:36] <npco> sf
[00:36] <kaosine> k1l: well was actually trying that etcher first... that link orsysbackup linked wasn't helpful when I found it first
[00:36] <npco> l
[00:36] <npco> f
[00:39] <kaosine> OerHeks: that etcher worked it's at least giving me the options for language now......just need to figure out why my monitor is a weird teal now XD
[00:41] <nacc> npco: do you understand what the && operator does?
[00:41] <kaosine> and man I forgot how loud this computer's CPU fan was....
[00:42] <brimestone> hey guys, can i run TLSv1.2 on my Apache 2.2.22?
[00:43] <npco> nacc: it alows two commands to go through?
[00:43] <nacc> npco: no.
[00:43] <nacc> npco: if the first returns successfully (equivalent to true), then it will run the next, and so on, sequentially
[00:44] <npco> it makes them go faster?
[00:44] <npco> whats true
[00:44] <nacc> npco: ok, i'm assuming you're trolling and will stop helping now.
[00:44] <npco> nacc Sorry
[00:45] <juggernaut> helo
[00:47] <npco> Thanks for your help here.
[00:47] <npco> :quit
[01:03] <kaosine> ok may need some help again....trying to install server and getting a lot of weird partitions when just trying to set it up
[01:10] <gde33> can one open a terminal from nautilus?
[01:12] <gde33> oh ic
[01:12] <nacc> gde33: right-click, open in terminal?
[01:13] <gde33> I was looking for something like that but just open asks it and I read one can drag n drop things to the terminal
[01:15] <nacc> gde33: i can't parse your sentence
[01:15] <orsysbackup> OA
[01:15] <orsysbackup> OA
[01:15] <orsysbackup> OA
[01:15] <orsysbackup> OA
[01:16] <gde33> nacc: I was looking for something like right click open this in terminal. I just notice that opening an .sh asks if I want that. I also read on the interwebz that one can drag n drop things to the terminal and have the path show up there.
[01:16] <nacc> gde33: well, not every file will make sense to open in a terminal
[01:17] <nacc> gde33: that doesn't seem generically sensible
[01:17] <gde33> ah ic folders do have the open in terminal right click entry
[01:17] <nacc> gde33: so nautilus provides you open a terminal here (meaning with cwd set to the open directory) and for .sh run it in the terminal
[01:18] <gde33> curious, opening it in a text editor by default seems a poor design choice? why is that?
[01:18] <nacc> gde33: opening what in a text editor?
[01:18] <gde33> the .sh file
[01:19] <nacc> gde33: you would rather you accidentally ran a shell script from a GUI?
[01:19] <gde33> sorry, should have been more clear
[01:19] <nacc> gde33: also, if you want to *run* a shell script from a GUI, make it executable and double-click it
[01:19] <gde33> why not?
[01:20] <gde33> I dont really have acidental scripts on my disk (joking)
[01:23] <gde33> I'm no expert, all I know is that the number of steps from downloading, finding, relocating, etc, to being able to use something feels weird.
[01:25] <nacc> if you're using a terminal, use the terminal; I don't really see what nautilus has to do with it
[01:25] <nacc> gde33: but at this point, it sounds more like a general complain than a support topic, so i'll leave it there
[01:26] <gde33> true, thanks for being there :)
[01:30] <OerHeks> that is part of nautilus-actions, open in terminal/open as administrator
[01:30] <OerHeks> !info nautilus-actions
[01:31] <OerHeks> gde33, ^^
[01:32] <gde33> ty
[01:33] <kaosine> now I've got server installed but can't login
[01:35] <OerHeks> ctrl alt f2 login
[01:51] <unstop> hi
[02:05] <mikey> hey all
[02:21] <mk1> testing weechat
[02:21] <mk1> sweet.
[02:29] <balerion> please can anyone tell me how to register my nickname
[02:29] <wedgie> !register
[02:30] <balerion> thanks
[02:38] <coffeeguy-> you know i like gnome :)
[02:39] <jaith> My workstation (my host machine) is running Ubuntu 14, I have a virtual machine running via VirtualBox. On my host machine's file system I created /var/www/foo and shared this with the vm. I mounted the shared folder on the vm and am successfully reading the files from the host machine. however, apache complains when it tries to write to files in the mounted/shared folder
[02:40] <jaith> can someone tell me how I may share this folder so that apache running on the vm can write to the shared folder?
[02:40] <B105PH3RE> jaith: Apache complains in which way?
[02:41] <jaith> apache on the vm complains in its primary error.log thusly: (1)Operation not permitted: AH00091: apache2: could not open error log file /var/www/foo/apache-logs/error.log.
[02:41] <jaith> AH00015: Unable to open logs
[02:42] <B105PH3RE> jaith: Does apache-logs folder exist and you may have to add write access for group and/or other bit
[02:42] <B105PH3RE> jaith: on the host system that is for that vm/shared folder
[02:43] <jaith> B105PH3RE: apache-logs does exist. afaik, apache should be able to write this directory despite not having permission because apache has root perm when mounting logs....
[02:43] <B105PH3RE> jaith: how exactly did you share that vm folder did you make the shared folder inside of /var/www and called the shared folder foo or?
[02:43] <B105PH3RE> jaith: except your using a unix host with a unix guest correct?
[02:44] <B105PH3RE> unix host may be overriding the guest perms
[02:44] <B105PH3RE> make sure that host directory is 0777 mode and see if that works or not
[02:44] <jaith> B105PH3RE: I shared the folder using virtual box settings...a series of menues
[02:44] <jaith> B105PH3RE: reading the directory contents is not a problem
[02:44] <jaith> B105PH3RE: listing the apache-logs folder from the vm works fine also
[02:45] <B105PH3RE> jaith: whats the complete chmod on that foo directory on the guest?
[02:45] <B105PH3RE> drw-----
[02:46] <jaith> $ ls -dal /var/www/foo/apache-logs
[02:46] <jaith> drwxr-xr-x 1 jaith jaith 4096 Feb 16 15:15 /var/www/foo/apache-logs
[02:46] <B105PH3RE> jaith: you did not select read only when you created the share in virtualbox correct?
[02:47] <jaith> I did not
[02:47] <B105PH3RE> jaith: if you apache running as www-data or apache
[02:47] <jaith> I selected automount and make permanent
[02:47] <B105PH3RE> jaith: ok that should be good then
[02:47] <jaith> B105PH3RE: yes, apache runs as www-data (default when installed via apt)
[02:47] <B105PH3RE> jaith: try changing the group for apache-logs to www-data
[02:47] <B105PH3RE> add write to group
[02:48] <jaith> as user jaith, i get an error trying to write apache-logs folder:
[02:48] <jaith> $ touch /var/www/oddballs-v2/apache-logs/foo
[02:48] <jaith> touch: cannot touch '/var/www/oddballs-v2/apache-logs/foo': Protocol error
[02:48] <B105PH3RE> chmod g+w
[02:49] <jaith> both owner and group are currently jaith
[02:49] <B105PH3RE> on the guest system you are doing this correct?
[02:49] <jaith> yes, on the vm
[02:49] <jaith> NOTE: user jaith exists both on host machine and vm
[02:49] <B105PH3RE> on the host can you chmod 777 the shared folder
[02:49] <jaith> pretty sure this is a mount problem
[02:49] <jaith> let me try 777
[02:49] <B105PH3RE> pretty sure your user www-data doesn't have perms correctly
[02:50] <jaith> actually, i think it's a mount problem
[02:50] <B105PH3RE> shouldnt be I done apche this way before
[02:50] <jaith> as i noted above, even user jaith doesn't have permissions to write this folder. I get protocol error:
[02:50] <B105PH3RE> the mount just create a link essentially
[02:51] <jaith> $ touch /var/www/foo/apache-logs/foo
[02:51] <jaith> touch: cannot touch '/var/www/foo/apache-logs/foo': Protocol error
[02:51] <B105PH3RE> can root write there?
[02:52] <jaith> nope
[02:52] <jaith> $ sudo touch /var/www/foo/apache-logs/foo
[02:52] <jaith> touch: cannot touch '/var/www/foo/apache-logs/foo': Protocol error
[02:52] <B105PH3RE> then I believe its a conficting perms since its unix unix
[02:52] <B105PH3RE> however
[02:53] <B105PH3RE> how did you mount the shared folder on the unix system?
[02:53] <kerananw> hi everyone, does anybody know how to install ubuntu without an internet connection?
[02:53] <globalOS> cd?
[02:53] <jaith> yes, let me rephrase question perhaps? what is correct mount command to mount a shared folder so it can be written from the guest machine
[02:54] <B105PH3RE> well what command are you currently using?
[02:54] <jaith> B105PH3RE: sudo mount -t vboxsf -o uid=$UID,gid=$(id -g) foo /var/www/foo
[02:55] <B105PH3RE> send your mount output for that device also
[02:55] <jaith> I found that command here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/SharedFolders
[02:56] <kerananw> jaith: you need to add your user to vboxsf? useradd [your-user-name] vboxsf, if I get your question right.
[02:57] <jaith> B105PH3RE: not sure what you mean? this command simply returns, no message, no output: sudo mount -t vboxsf -o uid=$UID,gid=$(id -g) foo /var/www/foo
[02:57] <B105PH3RE> if you type mount
[02:57] <jaith> ?
[02:57] <B105PH3RE> there should be a line for the vobxsf
[02:58] <B105PH3RE> vboxsf
[02:58] <jaith> ah just mount, no options?
[02:58] <B105PH3RE> correct
[02:58] <jaith> $ mount | grep vbox
[02:58] <jaith> foo on /media/sf_foo type vboxsf (rw,nodev,relatime)
[02:58] <jaith> foo on /var/www/foo type vboxsf (rw,nodev,relatime)
[02:59] <B105PH3RE> kerananw: he's mounted a vbox shared folder but he doesn't have write permissions as root on guest system at all regardless of perms on folder
[03:00] <B105PH3RE> jaith: well its showing rw so you should have write acess... on the host system the folder 777
[03:00] <kerananw> i guess adding the user to the vboxsf group could fix that right?
[03:00] <jaith> kerananw: no matter what user or privs I set on folder, I cannot write it from guest vm
[03:00] <jaith> B105PH3RE: was really hoping to avoid that....contents of said folder are quite elaborate. reversing 777 command a chore i expect
[03:00] <kerananw> I meant, on the guest os, run this command. adduser [your-user-name] vboxsf
[03:01] <kerananw> jaith: provided that your shared folder was auto mounted?
[03:01] <B105PH3RE> jaith: only 777 the folder not its contents
[03:01] <jaith> kerananw: i did choose automount when creating the shared folder in the VirtualBox app, but the mount point /media/sf_foo is unsatisfactory, so I mounted it again
[03:01] <B105PH3RE> try using a temp folder for now then
[03:02] <B105PH3RE> jaith: ok so your original is sf_foo
[03:02] <kerananw> ah, sorry. my mind is wondering with my question too. i havent read B105PH3RE reply fully. maybe you could just mount it in /etc/fstab?
[03:03] <tonyt> does ubuntu have a built in firewall? if so whats the name of it?
[03:03] <kerananw> ufw tonyt
[03:03] <tonyt> thanks
[03:03] <B105PH3RE> try unmounting the first one for now but I don't think thats the problem I think its cuz the user id are different from system and its trying to associate the perms with the a differnent jaith or something
[03:03] <jaith> creating temp subdirectory in shared folder on host machine and setting 777 allows me to write that temp subdir from the guest machine
 does it have a gui?
[03:04] <kerananw> i believe it's gufw? i'm not really sure about that
[03:04] <B105PH3RE> it DOES allow?
[03:04] <tonyt> k
[03:04] <B105PH3RE> jaith: so its working on the temp folder?
[03:04] <jaith> B105PH3RE: yes. when i create a subdirectory named "temp" on the host machine in the shared folder and set the permissions on "temp" to 777, I can touch inside this directory from the guest vm
[03:05] <B105PH3RE> jaith: ok so you have to narrow down your permissions and figure out with ones cassing it
[03:05] <jaith> B105PH3RE: however, I *REALLY* don't want to make all folders 777
[03:05] <B105PH3RE> which ones causing it
[03:06] <jaith> OK getting somewhere
[03:06] <B105PH3RE> just make the logs folder for now 777
[03:06] <jaith> if i umount /var/www/foo on the guest vm, then i can now see the original mount, which is root/vboxsf
[03:07] <B105PH3RE> umount the sf_foo you said you didn't want right
[03:07] <jaith> $ ls -dal /media/sf_foo
[03:07] <jaith> drwxrwx--- 1 root vboxsf 4096 Feb 21 19:03 /media/sf_foo
[03:07] <jaith> looks like automount might be problematic?
[03:07] <B105PH3RE> if its not what you want then don't use it
[03:08] <kerananw> would you mind telling me the thing that you're trying to do jaith?
[03:09] <jaith> kerananw: trying to share a working directory from my workstation so that it can be hosted by a different OS than I'm running on my workstation
[03:10] <jaith> kerananw: I work on my workstation in my working directory, i run a VM with Ubuntu 16.04 and apache et. al, that VM can write logs to the working directory -- but ALSO can write cache directory in it, other stuff. it's a laravel install so apache needs perms to write
[03:10] <kerananw> what's the problem on your virtualbox? you can't see your mounted fs?
[03:11] <jaith> kerananw: and since apache is running on the guest vm, guest vm's www-data user needs to be able to write certain directories on host machine
[03:11] <jaith> kerananw: apache on the guest vm can read the host machine's shared folder just fine. it's writing it that causes problems
[03:12] <kerananw> both on root and your local user?
[03:13] <jaith> kerananw: neither sudo/root nor my own personal user was able to write the shared folder as mounted before. we just realized that if I unmount the shared folder as /var/www/foo, then its automount of /media/sf_foo returns and that /media/sf_foo is owned root:vboxsf
[03:14] <kerananw> but you can change the contents on sf_foo?
[03:14] <jaith> kerananw: haven't tried yet. mount point of /media/sf_foo really sucks. would much rather have /var/www/foo
[03:15] <jaith> kerananw: working on not automounting but manually mounting instead
[03:15] <kerananw> could you try if you can edit it?
[03:15] <jaith> kerananw: ?
[03:15] <B105PH3RE> jaith: you could just create a link
[03:16] <kerananw> i mean, your sf_foo files. could you try and edit it? maybe you can just create a symbolic link as B105PH3RE suggested
[03:16] <jaith> B105PH3RE: note how the perms on automounted are root:vboxsf -- also not writable by www-data ?
[03:16] <jaith> seems like i need a better mount command
[03:19] <jaith> I've modified VirtualBox settings in the gui, unchecked automount and 'make permanent' (whatever THAT means)
[03:19] <jaith> the dir /media/sf_foo still there
[03:20] <jaith> i removed that folder, rebooted the machine
[03:21] <B105PH3RE> jaith: is it in the fstab?
[03:22] <jaith> not yet
[03:25] <B105PH3RE> I meant the /media/sf_foo since its still showing up
[03:26] <jaith> having trouble with network connection. network masked got mangled somehow?
[03:28] <jaith> ok /media/sf_foo now gone
[03:30] <jaith> however, I am still unable to write the contents of /var/www/foo, even if I use sudo or roo perms
[03:30] <wolftune> still trying to get my ssd to run… cloned my / partition to the ssd, have a efi boot partition, set that up as I think is right, tweaked fstab…
[03:31] <wolftune> when I try to boot off it (it's in a USB enclosure), it just sits there and doesn't proceed to boot
[03:31] <jaith> B105PH3RE: $ sudo touch /var/www/foo/apache-logs/foo
[03:31] <jaith> touch: cannot touch '/var/www/foo/apache-logs/foo': Protocol error
[03:32] <B105PH3RE> jaith: is the apache-logs 777
[03:32] <jaith> no it is not
[03:32] <B105PH3RE> on host
[03:32] <jaith> as previously discussed, if i set it to 777 on host, i can then write it -- but that is not ideal at all
[03:33] <B105PH3RE> only for the logs folder I mean
[03:33] <B105PH3RE> are you able to start apache at that point
[03:34] <B105PH3RE> you need to find out what user the host is trying to use for the user
[03:34] <jaith> B105PH3RE: I'll just try putting the apache log somewhere else. e.g., /var/log/apache2/foo/error.log or wahtever
[03:35] <jaith> B105PH3RE: every time i try and write shared folder, i get PROTOCOL ERROR unless the directory being written is 777
[03:35] <B105PH3RE> jaith: so try this make a nother temp folder again with 777 on the guest touch a file and then on the host find out what the user is and group
[03:36] <Bashing-om> wolftune: Couple of thoughts . Mount the root from an external means and remove quiet splash from the /etc/default/grub file . Also verify the ' sudo blkid ' to what is set in the /etc/fstab file .
[03:37] <coffeeguy> question :) when i hit my backspace key my screen flickers in ubuntu with gnome
[03:39] <coffeeguy> sorry it's hexchat
[03:39] <chillumbaba> thanks
[03:40] <coffeeguy> for what?
[03:40] <explodes> I added 8GB RAM for a total of 16GB. I ran memtest, I updated my BIOS, and I still run into issues when I'm using a "lot" of RAM.
[03:40] <coffeeguy> don't make me regret this
[03:40] <coffeeguy> :D
[03:41] <B105PH3RE> coffeeguy: sounds like a hardware issues can you monitor your volts could be a weak power supply
[03:41] <coffeeguy> it's a known problem wit hexchat
[03:42] <jaith> B105PH3RE: nice tricky suggestion there
[03:42] <coffeeguy> https://github.com/hexchat/hexchat/issues/830
[03:42] <coffeeguy> fyi :)
[03:44] <tmuwa> which desktop environments are you using? Right now I am using Mate. But I am thinking about switching to gnome.
[03:44] <tomtom52> how should one install go on ubuntu?
[03:44] <B105PH3RE> i3
[03:44] <jaith> B105PH3RE: so on host machine, in shared folder, i created a subdir named "temp" with permissions 775
[03:45] <jaith> B105PH3RE: then, on vm, I did a touch temp/foo which successfully created a file "foo" i that temp dir
[03:45] <wedgie> tomtom52: apt-get install golang
[03:47] <arooni> how do i make sudo crontab -e; use vim and not nano ?
[03:48] <jaith> B105PH3RE: when I go to the HOST machine and list the contents of temp, i see the file foo and its permissions are jaith:jaith -- this is likely because on both my host machine and the vm, the user id of user 'jaith' is identical
[03:50] <shameem> Hi guys, I've been using linux for nearly an year now.
[03:51] <shameem> I want to contribute through code.
[03:51] <jaith> B105PH3RE: there is a mount option, **user** that is described in the mount main pages. it is unrecognized when I use it from the cli directly, but I'm wondering what might happen if i put it in fstab?
[03:51] <kerananw> arooni: sudo select-editor
[03:51] <shameem> I'm familiar with Python and JavaScript.
[03:51] <shameem> Any suggesstions ?
[03:51] <KalEl> What's the command from a terminal to shutdown my machine?
[03:51] <shameem> it's poweroff
[03:51] <KalEl> Thanks
[03:51] <jaith> shameem: python and javascript both require virtual machines and are therefore probably not especially helpful for core ubuntu dev
[03:51] <shameem> KalEl: No Prob.
[03:51] <install> Also sudo systemctl poweroff
[03:51] <shameem> jaith: What about C or C++
[03:53] <jaith> shameem: that seems more useful, but I would imagine that you are much more likely to find opportunities developing some package or extension of ubuntu rather than ubuntu itself.
[03:53] <shameem> jaith: Any suggestions friend ?
[03:53] <jaith> shameem: the core devs are hard-core dudes and one must earn respect and climb the totem pole to get in -- you could try contacting canonical? they are the maintainers of ubuntu. or perhaps debian.org? they develop debian, upon which ubuntu is based
[03:54] <shameem> jaith: I'm a beginner. Never developed on a real project before, I'll probably need a mentor.
[03:54] <jaith> shameem: I'm not sure which packages might use python or Javascript. I'm no expert myself.
[03:55] <shameem> jaith: How do you contribute ?
[03:55] <tmuwa> shameem: look here: https://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/
[03:55] <OerHeks> !contribute
[03:55] <jaith> shameem: I did attempt myself to work on an extension to PHP (which is written in C/C++) -- the PHP guys have a mailing list. Contributing to documentation was something they definitely needed in the PHP group -- they have a markup they use from which the docs at php.net are auto-generated
[03:56] <shameem> Hmm. Thanks. I'll look at the docs and let you know.
[03:56] <jaith> shameem: sadly, I think my only contributions are to help others find their way forward with things that I understand well -- this is most often some kind of PHP problem
[03:57] <Guest44354> wonderful
[03:57] <shameem> jaith: Not to worry mate, anyways you are contributing to the community!!
[03:57] <shameem> jaith: It's just that different people and good at different things.
[03:58] <townes234> I know this isnt technically linux related. Anyone familiar with the Opera browse on desktop? Apologies for my English
[03:58] <jaith> shameem: doing what I can. I think the community appreciates any kind of help, however small. E.g., identifying reproducible problems and describing how exactly to reproduce them, etc. Helping noobs along, that sort of thing.
[03:58] <shameem> townes234: I've used it before.
[03:58] <shameem> jath: You're right.
[03:59] <townes234> Okay... My father uses and set in his ways. For a long time, the speed dial showed unsorted bookmarks as thumbnails
[03:59] <townes234> Now it does not. Ive crawled through the settings, nothing, and search extensions
[03:59] <shameem> townes324: Is the issue fixed ?
[04:00] <townes234> Unfortunately no. I dont see this in settings anywhere, and google is failing me
[04:00] <shameem> townes324: Can you send me a screenshot in some way possible ?
[04:00] <install> Well, the Opera browser recently went from being developed by the original Opera team to becoming a Chrome clone. Is that when the bookmark thumbnails broke?
[04:00] <townes234> http://images.macworld.com/images/article/2011/07/opera115_01-247833.jpg <--- this is the speed dial
[04:00] <townes234> But we want it display unsorted bookmarks as it did before
[04:00] <townes234> Currently it displays ummm. just speed dial thumbnails
[04:00] <shameem> townes324: I'll check and let you know.
[04:01] <townes234> Thanks. Strangely it was like this as default forever. Now it's like it never existed
[04:02] <shameem> townes324: You still there ?
[04:02] <townes234> I even reckon this was default behaviour. But searching google images, no image I see shows it this way
[04:02] <townes234> Yeah just typing and googling
[04:02] <shameem> townes324: Is your dad only familiar with opera ?
[04:03] <install> These days the Opera team are developing Vivaldi web browser and it allows you to order your bookmarks manually.
[04:03] <townes234> shameem: Yeah. I've tried to switch him to Chrome or Firefox, he sticks with Opera lol
[04:03] <townes234> install: like bookmarks on the speed dial?
[04:05] <townes234> What is driving me crazy, this was the behaviour. Click on the 'start page' button, it would display bookmark thumbnails instead of the speed dial page. And no sidebar
[04:05] <install> I wouldn't use Chrome or Firefox (I find they have very difficult interfaces to use) but Vivaldi is pretty good.
[04:05] <townes234> No I take that back, it had the sidebar
[04:05] <townes234> install: mostly because those are the 2 I can work with
[04:07] <townes234> install: and personally I think Chrome is straight forward. But maybe bias from using it the most
[04:07] <townes234> With Opera...jesus. Interface is crazy
[04:08] <gogeta> Chrome is handy as everything including addons sync up across pcs
[04:08] <install> But it's hard to use
[04:09] <townes234> I don't know. I have the opposite opinion
[04:09] <townes234> To me the interface makes sense
[04:09] <gogeta> hard to use?
[04:09] <townes234> Settings are easy to find and adjust imo
[04:09] <townes234> & bookmarks work the way they have since the late 90s. I reckon it's not 'beautiful' but it's familiar
[04:09] <gogeta> yea i find it pretty easy but to eatch his own
[04:10] <townes234> Yeah. Like I said. Possibly biased from using it the most
[04:10] <gogeta> give firefox i try i still have love for that and its not a memery monster like chrome
[04:11] <townes234> I used firefox for years. Great browser but I dont use it much. Memory is fine except when the plugin-container is running in 5 or 6 tabs
[04:11] <townes234> But that 'bug' is present in Chrome as well
[04:12] <glache> hi
[04:12] <glache> What bug?
[04:12] <townes234> I think it can be fixed by making plugin container only run in an open tab. Doesn't bother me tho
[04:12] <townes234> glache: in the latest versions, depending on your cpu, if plugin container is running many tabs
[04:12] <townes234> It will raise the temperature quickly
[04:13] <townes234> glache: in the latest versions, depending on your cpu, if plugin container is running many tabs
[04:13] <townes234> It will raise the temperature quickly
[04:13] <townes234> Like videos that use plugin-container
[04:13] <glache> Oh.
[04:13] <townes234> Not youtube etc. It's only certain umm
[04:13] <gogeta> so your saying it using alot of cpu
[04:13] <townes234> Let's say 18+ sites
[04:13] <townes234> Their players use it
[04:14] <townes234> gogeta: yeah. But I believe setting it to only run in an open tab prevents it
[04:14] <townes234> But yeah. it will jump your temp to 70, 80, 90 degrees F
[04:15] <townes234> Present in every browser that uses plugin-container & I believe (not 100%) sure, only certain cpus
[04:15] <gogeta> not to worryed on temps unless your fanless or something
[04:17] <piyush> hey, new to the forum here. Anyone knows a solution to fix the messed up screen after returning from suspend? I use a nvidia card
[04:18] <gogeta> piyush, you install the offical drivers
[04:18] <piyush> I did. Tried both 378 and 375. Still facing the problem
[04:20] <townes234> gogeta: yeah. Honestly it is kinda an isolated bug and appears to have a simple fix
[04:20] <townes234> gogeta: yeah. Honestly it is kinda an isolated bug and appears to have a simple fix
[04:22] <townes234> I gotta run. Cheers
[04:23] <install> piyush: I use elementaryOS (descended from Ubuntu) on a laptop with nVidia graphics and it too has big problems resuming from suspend / hibernation.
[04:33] <awds> hello
[04:33] <install> Hello awds!
[04:33] <awds> can anybody help me out?
[04:33] <install> That depends on what you need help with, of course.
[04:33] <awds> sure
[04:34] <awds> Im trying to use latex
[04:34] <kk4ewt> texlive?
[04:34] <jaith> B105PH3RE: not sure if you care, but adding user jaith to group vboxsf also doesn't help.
[04:35] <awds> so googled for help and found that for me to generate a pdf from a .tex file i gotta use the cmd: su -c 'yum install -y texlive'
[04:35] <awds> kk4ewt:  dont know the difference really... :/
[04:35] <install> awds: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?chat=latex would show you there is a #latex channel.
[04:36] <kerananw> jaith: you have to reboot your guest after adding
[04:36] <jaith> kerananw: wow! totally forgot that. thx
[04:36] <kk4ewt> awds so what are you having problems
[04:40] <awsd> sorry, got a conection problem
[04:41] <jaith> kerananw: still no joy after reboot :'(
[04:42] <awsd> so about that cmd... when  I type it it shows a msg for authentication, that fails and I know the password is correct :/
[04:43] <awsd> help pls :~
[04:43] <kerananw> sorry, i don't really get your problem that much. if you don't mind, maybe we can start from the beggining?
[04:43] <kerananw> jaith:
[04:44] <kerananw> all i know is that you wanted to access your host file from guest?
[04:45] <jaith> kerananw: I have a working directory on host. source files for a php project. apache needs to write some directories in this working directory (a requirement of laravel, a PHP framework). apache is running on the VirtualBox guest vm
[04:46] <kerananw> ok, and you have an apache server on your host and guest?
[04:46] <jaith> kerananw: yes, but apache server on host is not serving files from this particular directory
[04:46] <azizLIGHT> i got too many kernels in /boot. to remove them, is it correct that i gotta purge packages like linux-image-3.13.0-85-generic and then also this package: linux-headers-3.13.0-85 and linux-headers-3.13.0-85-generic also? anything else?
[04:47] <jaith> kerananw: additionally, i have moved apache logs out of working directory into another location
[04:47] <awsd> anybody can help me with latex?
[04:47] <kerananw> jaith: but you wanted to access some apache files from host to guess if I get it right?
[04:47] <azizLIGHT> anybody CAN help, but anybody WILL help?
[04:48] <awsd> lol
[04:48] <awsd> true
[04:48] <jaith> kerananw: apache running on guest needs to *write* some files on host -- here lies the problem
[04:49] <jaith> kerananw: it is easy for guest to read the files in my shared folder, but granting write access to apache running on guest is another matter
[04:49] <awsd> I think its something really simple, but I got no clue what Im doing... I got all files and templates from a friend, all I gotta do is write my stuff over his on my work
[04:49] <kerananw> jaith: can you try to automount that apache folder to your guest?
[04:49] <awsd> but I dont know how to generate the pdf
[04:49] <kerananw> jaith: I'm guessing that you're just having permission errors imo
[04:51] <awsd> azizLIGHT:  will you help me, dude?
[04:52] <awsd> pls :/
[04:52] <notadeveloper> I wish amazon could make an accuvideo in partnership with accuradio and vimeo
[04:52] <notadeveloper> oh well
[04:52] <install> awds: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?chat=latex would show you there is a #latex channel.
[04:52] <install> So just type  /join #latex and the people there know more about it than some of the people here.
[04:53] <awsd> install:  Im there, the channel is dead :/
[04:53] <kerananw> jaith: also, on your host, your default user can edit the apache files without using sudo right?
[04:53] <install> How long have you waited? You might need to wait a day or two to get a response.
[04:53] <install> (People there are probably asleep if they're in another part of the world to you)
[04:54] <awsd> its 2 am here but ok... was hoping to finish my work till morning
[04:54] <awsd> thanks anyway
[04:55] <install> People can only be available when they can, and know as much as they do... that sort of thing is hard to control into your schedule!
[04:56] <stickyrice1> That's a funny 5th Element name
[04:57] <fsckq> How can I update fsck package only? When I am trying to apply fsck on a partition, it asks me to get a newer version of e2fsck
[04:58] <notadeveloper> i would subscribe to amazon prime if they have music videos
[04:58] <notadeveloper> from accuradio artist
[04:58] <notadeveloper> but
[04:58] <notadeveloper> nvm
[04:58] <notadeveloper> dont mind me
[04:58] <awsd> install:  I know, dude. As I said, think its a simple thing and thought could be easyly solved. I would ask a friend but they r asleep. Im not impatient or anything...=p
[04:58] <install> Alright :-)
[04:59] <fsckq> Okay, I found apt-get install --only-upgrade option. But which package will update fsck package?
[04:59] <fsckq> !fsck
[05:00] <jaith> kerananw: use of term 'apache files' is confusing. all files in working directory on host are PHP source code owned on host machine by user jaith. i've had a problem changing any of these files from guest while logged in as user jaith -- note the jaith user on the host machine and the jaith user on the guest vm have the exact same user id: 1000
[05:01] <fsckq> I did man fsck, it said that it is part of util-linux package and then I tried to upgrade that pacakge alone using apt-get install --only-upgrade command but it said that it is already upgraded
[05:02] <fsckq> I am unable to perform fsck on a partition since it is asking me to get a newer version of e2fsck but how to get that?
[05:02] <kerananw> jaith: sorry, i thought that you were talking about the apache configs. ah, ok, so you can just access your php files on your hosts. have you tried automounting your folder again?
[05:07] <Countess_Bathory> some useless info: I had the same e2fsck problem, with it say I have old version ,  but it only said that with trying to run it on a old OCZ SSD .  it was fine with more than a dozen newer drives (SSD & HDD)
[05:09] <notadeveloper> oh
[05:09] <notadeveloper> lol
[05:10] <notadeveloper> dont mind me
[05:18] <Maximus2> Ok so I know how to assign multiple IP's to one interface. But how does one assign a ip range? I need to assign 50 ip's. I know that in redhat you can do this with one file but what about ubuntu?
[05:29] <astro> Why is the ubuntu software store so slow and laggy compared to other apps?
[05:34] <boristheanimal> which other apps astro? :|
[05:42] <Archbuntuser> Hello!
[06:04] <RegexCoder> Hola
[06:04] <EriC^^> hi
[06:06] <RegexCoder> I just wanna find out weather is it save to partition ubuntu with windows 10.
[06:06] <EriC^^> yes it's safe
[06:06] <RegexCoder> Thank guys... bye...
[06:06] <EriC^^> you mean dual boot, right?
[06:06] <RegexCoder> "thank you "
[06:33] <thereisnocow> does anyone on the ubuntu kernel team do any testing of the kernels before they push a new version?
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> thereisnocow: of course kernels get tested, why?
[06:35] <thereisnocow> lotuspsychje: a bug with encrypted swap was "fixed" in 4.4.0-[58-62] which then caused those kernels to kill big processes with OOM
[06:35] <thereisnocow> super duper!
[06:35] <thereisnocow> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1655842
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> thereisnocow: you created the bug?
[06:36] <thereisnocow> nope
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> thereisnocow: well i strongly recommend you add your experience to this existing bug then
[06:36] <thereisnocow> I see the exact symptoms
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> thereisnocow: the more users add to the bug, the quicker itl get solved
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> thereisnocow: wich ubuntu version are you on? system up to date?
[06:38] <thereisnocow> yeeeep
[06:38] <thereisnocow> 16.04 LTS
[06:38] <thereisnocow> apparently LTS does not mean stable
[06:38] <lotuspsychje> thereisnocow: you cant generalize
[06:39] <NoCode> Is there anyway to have two plank docks running at the same time with different icons on it?
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> thereisnocow: did you try a sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade ?
[06:39] <thereisnocow> yep, fully aware that 4.4.0-63 is out as of today or yesterday
[06:39] <thereisnocow> but still a huge breakage that requires a reboot
[06:40] <thereisnocow> question wasn't really to fix my box, just curious if it's only one person managing the LTS kernels
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> thereisnocow: there's a whole team on kernel testing, but doesnt prevent new bugs
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> thereisnocow: finding new bugs is a good thing, to get it solved more stable kernels
[06:42] <anddam> playing a youtube video keeps firefox at about 80% cpu time, on a Skylake i5 2. something GHz
[06:42] <thereisnocow> I gueessss
[06:42] <anddam> that seems a bit high, the video is 480p
[06:42] <anddam> anything that needs to be done to have some hw acceleration of sorta?
[06:43] <thereisnocow> like, I see that perspective, just think a little more process to be done before a new kernel is released to LTS
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> anddam: got the right graphics drivers?
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> thereisnocow: perhaps visit #ubuntu-kernel ?
[06:44] <alkisg> anddam: 80% of one kernel; full use of 2 kernels would be 200%
[06:46] <anddam> alkisg: s/kernel/core?
[06:46] <alkisg> anddam: yes sorry
[06:47] <anddam> yea, I know, still high
[06:47] <alkisg> anddam: for software decoding of 480p? I don't think so...
[06:47] <anddam> this is hyperthreading or whatever intel calls it, I figure, so 4 cores
[06:47] <anddam> alkisg: how do I check if it's software?
[06:47] <anddam> or if I have the right graphics driver?
[06:47] <alkisg> anddam: what's the exact cpu name? grep model /proc/cpuinfo
[06:48] <anddam> I'm alread reading there, how's the field called?
[06:48] <anddam> model name?
[06:48] <alkisg> Yes, that's why I gave a grep command for it :)
[06:48] <anddam> I guess so, Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6200U CPU @ 2.30GHz
[06:48] <anddam> oh I didn't read the grep part
[06:48] <anddam> model 78
[06:49] <alkisg> http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-6200U+%40+2.30GHz => 3945 score, do you want to give me the youtube url to compare with my i5?
[06:49] <alkisg> PM me if you want
[06:50] <alkisg> 80% of one core is 20% of the cpu; doesn't sound that bad for software decoding
[06:52] <anddam> well the hyperthreaded cores are virtual, it's not like they have the same computational power of a real one
[06:53] <anddam> but I don't really know how HT parallelism works
[06:53] <anddam> the thing isn's specific to any video, I just clicked on a
[06:53] <anddam> "BEST--- classic rock mix" playlist on youtube
[06:54] <anddam> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZN_exA7d4RVmCQrG5VlWIjMOkMFZVVOc for reference
[06:55] <alkisg> anddam: this 480p video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhSC7LyEbjU, takes 40% of one core of my https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-4440+%40+3.10GHz CPU with score=6429
[06:56] <alkisg> So it's in par with what you report, based on the cpu score
[07:08] <anddam> alkisg: so that makes two of us who need hw acceleration
[07:13] <tatertots> aww you guys don't get hw accel...that sucks
[07:13] <tatertots> on the bright side you'll know what to look for next time you're shopping for a new computer
[07:26] <anddam> tatertots: and what's that?
[07:26] <alkisg> anddam, tatertots, I prefer it if the decoding happens in cpu than in gpu, as long as the cpu can handle it. For example, rpi does it in gpu, and that sucks, because you need specialized software just to see videos
[07:26] <alkisg> anddam, tatertots, of course we could also easily enable va-api for our cpus, but I don't care :)
[07:27] <anddam> alkisg: ideally you'd use OS's native features and some driver
[07:27] <anddam> tatertots: btw I just bought this one
[07:27] <alkisg> anddam: the linux "os" doesn't have an api for video decoding
[07:27] <alkisg> So browsers implement it internally
[07:29] <alkisg> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=563206 is the bug report for hw acceleration on firefox
[07:29] <anddam> really, linux doesn't have any hw decoding feature?
[07:30] <anddam> oh, you said there's not an API, so not a standard access
[07:30] <alkisg> "Back then, when Firefox used gstreamer to decode video, there was some unofficial experiments with using gstreamer-vaapi to get HW decoding with firefox. The actual benefit of doing it was not big," ... read on...
[07:31] <Guest58295> can somwon help me with a c problem?
[07:32] <ducasse> Guest58295: try ##c
[07:32] <anddam> Guest58295: also change your nick, and "someone"
[07:33] <anddam> enhance your chances to get an answer
[07:33] <anddam> alkisg: reading
[07:33] <EriC^^> anddam: in ##c he's going to need a degree in english literature
[07:33] <EriC^^> with a minor in pedanticiry (yes, just made that up)
[07:34] <anddam> EriC^^: mmm, you probably meant "Pedantry"
[07:34] <anddam> </pedanticiry mode off>
[07:34] <Guest58295> can you tell me how to create a header file and include it in a c file?
[07:34] <anddam> Guest58295: that's easy, use a text editor, and save the file as .h
[07:35] <EriC^^> Guest58295: create it as usual, then do include "yourheader.h"
[07:35] <anddam> Guest58295: then in the C source file use the macro #include
[07:35] <anddam> EriC^^: you didn't seem to like the joke
[07:35] <anddam> pedanticiry much?
[07:35] <EriC^^> lol what?
[07:36] <Guest58295> guys i have 2 .c files and i want one c file to convert in header file but i dont know to to do that
[07:36] <anddam> completely different topic: have you guys read about ElementaryOS? It's based on Ubuntu and has a couple very clear guidelines about design and UX, I have to say I liked what I saw, very much
[07:37] <anddam> just curious what a regular ubuntu-er would think about it
[07:37] <Guest58295> elementaryOS i tested it and its goo its look great but eat a lot of resources
[07:37] <anddam> back to the ubuntu topic, why do I have a /bin/open link to openvt?
[07:38] <anddam> I expected open to be an alias/symlink to xdg-open actually
[07:38] <anddam> where expected is actually "hoped"
[07:40] <anddam> Guest58295: what resources?
[07:40] <anddam> to me almost any OS I tried usually sits there idle
[07:41] <anddam> I had the misfortune to use windows as well and it doesn't work like that, but I don't count it as "OS" so the point still stands
[07:42] <NorthernHorse_> g-morning all!    Can someone plz point me in the right direction (resource) to setting up Client VPN connectivity with MS Direct Access VPN server
[07:44] <anddam> Guest58295: also the main point is not how it looks, but how it works
[07:44] <anddam> look is futile but ergonomics is not
[07:44] <Guest58295> can i have in a.h file a int main function?
[07:45] <anddam> sadly I think you can, but this are likely better suited in ##C or whatever it's called
[07:45] <anddam> s/this/these kinds of question
[07:51] <B105PH3RE> NorthernHorse_: are you using ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu?
[07:51] <Darcksides> w
[07:52] <NorthernHorse_> B105PH3RE: Ubuntu
[07:53] <Darcksides> Hello, i have a two file script write in C and how to integrate flappy-help.c in flapp.c . This is source code: https://github.com/Flappy-Lang/FlappyLang-REPL/blob/master/flappy-help.c and this is source code for flappy.c is here: https://github.com/Flappy-Lang/FlappyLang-REPL/blob/master/flappy.c
[07:54] <NorthernHorse_> im recieving a couple of errors from the syslog - of which i do not unnecessarily want to post here until i have tried all possible configs
[07:55] <B105PH3RE> then I don't necessarily want to see it either...
[07:55] <B105PH3RE> if its a login error
[07:55] <B105PH3RE> You can add a VPN connection through network manager applet on your ubuntu desktop I believe
[07:55] <anddam> Darcksides: I like how you keep trying, also misspelling my name in query and asking for skype support, that I will never ever provide
[07:56] <anddam> Darcksides: I'm not even convinced you aren't just trolling, just in case you're not, learn to ask questions in a useful way and listen to what you're told, specifically about the channels
[07:56] <anddam> is there a factoid for "how to ask questions the smart way"?
[08:04] <anddam> alkisg: wow that ticket is long
[08:04] <alkisg> anddam: haha, gpu acceleration is a long topic :D
[08:05] <anddam> alkisg: tl;dr no acceleration in FF for now, and that's it
[08:05] <alkisg> Yup
[08:05] <anddam> alkisg: btw how this relates to the old "glx acceleration in X11"?
[08:06] <anddam> not that I'm going to start games here, still I'd like my fglrx gears to spin at full throttle
[08:07] <alkisg> gl is not too related to video decoding
[08:10] <anddam> ah, that was specific to decoding
[08:12] <hateball> anddam: hw accel should work in chromium, if you want to compare
[08:13] <hateball> I think there are various scripts that let you render stuff from youtube using mplayer or such also
[08:24] <kierqueen> hi
[08:25] <kierqueen> anyone can login on my ubuntu thuderbird?
[08:25] <kierqueen> email? So do I have to encrypt the home folder?
[08:25] <kierqueen> I hate to feed the password, but when I secure the thunderbird, I need to feed it twice ?
[08:26] <kierqueen> one for the thunderbird , and the other for the email
[08:28] <B105PH3RE> kierqueen: did you try using a master password in thunderbird
[08:28] <kierqueen> yes
[08:28] <B105PH3RE> nogo
[08:28] <kierqueen> but now I want to unremember the password
[08:28] <B105PH3RE> you mean change it
[08:29] <kierqueen> I did check that box while making that, but now see that box nowhere in the settings, so where is it located?
[08:29] <kierqueen> I didn't touch the master password settings
[08:29] <B105PH3RE> security and then passwords
[08:29] <B105PH3RE> under thunderbird preferences
[08:31] <Guest80713> someone know how to enale su command in ubuntu-MATE
[08:32] <alkisg> Guest80713: use `sudo -i` to get root
[08:34] <B105PH3RE> they always leave before we can respond
[08:37] <Guest80713> i have an issues on my ubuntu mate sometimes i cant use fn key to reduce the brightnes can someone help me?
[08:37] <hateball> Guest80713: does the key not work at all?
[08:37] <hateball> Guest80713: are you able to increase brightness with the other key?
[08:38] <Guest80713> hateball, i can reduce the brightnes or increase them only that is the problem
[08:38] <Guest80713> yes the volume control its working prefectly
[08:40] <B105PH3RE> if relogin does it work again
[08:40] <Guest80713> yes
[08:41] <Guest80713> its work if i reloging
[08:41] <B105PH3RE> might be the applet crashing that takes care of that
[08:41] <Guest80713> can somehow to fix ?
[08:42] <Guest80713> as
[08:43] <Guest80713> a
[08:59] <turista> hello every1, is it possible to reset or something the source list file?¿
[08:59] <turista> to clean the repository and key's added
[09:00] <k1l> turista: what is the issue?
[09:00] <turista> I'm mad with the intel-graphics-update-tool and the wikest or something key
[09:01] <turista> "uses weak digest algorithm"
[09:01] <turista> also I couldn't ppa-purge the apt-fast; it gets back when I use the apt-get update
[09:02] <MacroMan> I can't upgrade linux-image, linux-generic or linux-image-extra. Here is the log I get from dist-upgrade: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24045482/
[09:02] <k1l> !ppa-purge | turista
[09:02] <turista> I did that; but it does not work dunno why
[09:03] <turista> sudo ppa-purge ppa:apt-fast/stable
[09:03] <turista> sudo ppa-purge -o apt-fast also ppa-purge [ppa]:apt-fast
[09:03] <turista> and so on p.q
[09:04] <k1l> turista: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:04] <k1l> MacroMan: "gzip: stdout: No space left on device"
[09:04] <k1l> MacroMan: df -h | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:04] <k1l> and show the output url in here please
[09:05] <MacroMan> http://termbin.com/sneo
[09:06] <turista> http://termbin.com/kbpg
[09:06] <alkisg> MacroMan: full /boot... yet another one :)
[09:07] <alkisg> turista: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/intellinuxgraphics.list; sudo apt-get update => is it ok with that?
[09:07] <k1l> MacroMan: "ls -al /boot | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:07] <MacroMan> I haven't stored anything on /boot myself. How can it be full?
[09:07] <alkisg> MacroMan: that's where the kernel and initrd goes
[09:07] <k1l> MacroMan: kernels get put there
[09:07] <alkisg> MacroMan: so on updates, you get a lot of kernels there, and you need to remove the old ones periodically; or grow your /boot
[09:07] <MacroMan> I do `apt autoremove` after every update
[09:08] <alkisg> That doesn't remove old kernels
[09:08] <MacroMan> Ah. What does please?
[09:08] <k1l> it does since 16.04
[09:08] <MacroMan> I'm on 16.04
[09:08] <MacroMan> Albeit an upgrade from 14.04
[09:08] <k1l> turista: sudo ppa-purge ppa:apt-fast/stable
[09:09] <MacroMan> btw, this is a live web server, I can't have things go wrong.
[09:09] <Guest33227> Hello :)
[09:09] <turista> it still show up that apt-fast
[09:09] <alkisg> k1l: good to know, thanks
[09:09] <Guest33227> how do i change the permission for the owner :)? what i the command
[09:09] <Guest33227> is*
[09:09] <k1l> Guest33227: chown
[09:10] <Guest33227> how do i use it ^^?
[09:10] <MacroMan> Guest33227, Try using `man chown`
[09:10] <Guest33227> in the terminal?
[09:10] <k1l> turista: wait, that ppa doesnt even have xenial pacakges
[09:10] <alkisg> (11:07:07 πμ) k1l: MacroMan: "ls -al /boot | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:11] <k1l> turista: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/apt-fast-ubuntu-stable-xenial.list*
[09:12] <MacroMan> Guest33227, Yes. `man chown` will show the user manual for chown
[09:12] <k1l> Guest33227: you still need to set the options for chown. i dont know what you want to do there
[09:12] <MacroMan> alkisg, http://termbin.com/e6op
[09:12] <andreleonardo> so  have to use "man chown" to change the owner permissions?
[09:12] <k1l> MacroMan: what is uname -r?
[09:12] <turista> it working thx!
[09:12] <andreleonardo> no i want change the owner ! im sorry
[09:13] <andreleonardo> i dont want change the owner permissions i want change the owner of a file
[09:13] <k1l> andreleonardo: no, "man chown" will explain how the command works
[09:13] <k1l> andreleonardo: we dont know what you want to change there. its usally like chown user:group /path/to/some/file
[09:14] <andreleonardo> ok
[09:14] <MacroMan> alkisg, I'm looking at this askubuntu post: http://askubuntu.com/questions/345588/what-is-the-safest-way-to-clean-up-boot-partition
[09:14] <andreleonardo> im in a school lesson right now and i have to figure out how i can change the owner of a file
[09:15] <MacroMan> andreleonardo, Then use the manual! `man chown`
[09:15] <alkisg> MacroMan: You didn't reply to k1l's question for `uname -r`. Anyway, I would start with `mv /boot/initrd* /tmp; apt-get install -f` to make space to finish the upgrade, and then I would try `apt autoremove`
[09:15] <andreleonardo> manual!
[09:15] <PixPp> chown @andr
[09:15] <andreleonardo> chown fax:mail dataname.xyz like this?
[09:16] <k1l> alkisg: its enough to use dpkg to remove old kernel packages
[09:16] <PixPp> I'm looking for a way to set a specific text on every line in alot of files. Anyone with an idea?
[09:16] <PixPp> I want to set the number 0 on line 4 on lots of files..
[09:16] <MacroMan> k1l, `uname -r`: http://termbin.com/psn1
[09:17] <alkisg> MacroMan: so, you can remove all kernels except for the running one, 62, and the last one, 64
[09:17] <k1l> MacroMan: ok one last pastebin " dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:18] <anddam> can apt-cache search only in specific sections?
[09:18] <MacroMan> k1l, http://termbin.com/ieun
[09:19] <MacroMan> Whoa, I've still got all those images installed
[09:19] <leeyaa> hello
[09:19] <leeyaa> i need to install mysql 5.5 on 16.04 LTS is there any repo I can use ?
[09:19] <jayly> hello
[09:19] <k1l> Marco: sudo dpkg -r linux-image-4.4.0-57-generic linux-image-4.4.0-59-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-57-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-59-generic"
[09:20] <k1l> !info mysql xenial
[09:20] <leeyaa> k1l: xenial has just 5.7
[09:20] <k1l> !info mysql-server xenial
[09:20] <leeyaa> i need 5.5
[09:20] <anddam> MacroMan: it's not that much
[09:20] <k1l> MacroMan: only the ones with "ii" are installed
[09:20] <zherlock> Anyone played with auditd modules for puppet? Looking for a good one that notifies auditd to refresh etc when any audit rules updates
[09:20] <anddam> MacroMan: aren't those 6?
[09:21] <MacroMan> Ah OK
[09:21] <anddam> k1l: aren't only ^.i installed?
[09:22] <anddam> I don't seem to figure a way to search by section (e.g. only 'admin', or only 'games') in apt-cache, do I need aptitude instead?
[09:23] <flughafen> does ubuntu have a dhclient command?
[09:23] <anddam> leeyaa: why do you need 5.5?
[09:23] <anddam> flughafen: $ which dhclient
[09:23] <anddam> /sbin/dhclient
[09:23] <anddam> flughafen: I'm going with 'yes'
[09:23] <leeyaa> anddam: i am testing something and for that test i need 5.5, 5.6 and 5.7 running from the same machine (not at the same time)\
[09:23] <flughafen> thanks anddam (someone is asking about stuff on an linux4tegra machine)
[09:24] <leeyaa> there used to be a repo for it, but it is not longer workign
[09:26] <MacroMan> k1l, OK It's removed those and immediately tried to install 4.4.0-64 when I did autoremove and /boot is full again.
[09:26] <MacroMan> Safe to remove 63 & 63?
[09:26] <oeg1688> hallo
[09:26] <MacroMan> *62 & 63
[09:27] <anddam> MacroMan: how big is your boot partition?
[09:27] <k1l> MacroMan: 62 is your actual kernel
[09:27] <k1l> MacroMan: and 180mb is really way to tight for /boot
[09:27] <anddam> k1l: oh that will work fine on next reboot
[09:27] <leeyaa> well anyway i guess ill use source for my tests
[09:27] <leeyaa> sigh
[09:28] <MacroMan> So can I remove 64 to make some space for now?
[09:28] <k1l> MacroMan:  " dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:29] <MacroMan> http://termbin.com/61e2
[09:30] <k1l> MacroMan: sudo dpkg -r linux-image-4.4.0-63-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-63-generic
[09:31] <initial> hello
[09:31] <MacroMan> k1l, When I reboot will I be on 64?
[09:31] <k1l> MacroMan: yes
[09:32] <MacroMan> OK. I've removed 63, I'll reboot and remove 62 too
[09:32] <PixPp> Anyone an idea how to fix this error? java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: unable to create new native thread
[09:32] <PixPp> Giving more memory won't work.
[09:34] <k1l> MacroMan: you might want to purge linux-generic-lts-vivid
[09:37] <MacroMan> k1l, Not sure I understand. What's linux-generic-lts-vivid and why should I purge it?
[09:37] <k1l> that is an old 14.04 package
[09:37] <MacroMan> OK thanks. I'll give it a go.
[09:38] <flughafen> does ubunutu not use /etc/sysconfig/network for network stuff?
[09:38] <flughafen> configs and stuff?
[09:39] <aarann> Hi, I am studing for the LPIC exam and one of my flashcards says "How can the existing environment variable FOOBAR be suppressed for the execution of the script./myscript only?" however I am not sure if the answer it gives as correct is correct...  C. env -u FOOBAR./myscript
[09:39] <k1l> flughafen: /etc/network/interfaces if network-manager is not used
[09:40] <aarann> as I cannot see a -u option for env on its man page
[09:40] <flughafen> k1l: i think gnome and evyerhting is installed, so, netowrk manager is probably there also
[09:42] <alkisg> aarann: manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/en/man1/env.1.html
[09:43] <aarann> oh I was looking here http://www.unix.com/man-page/posix/1p/env/
[09:44] <besi> Hello I have installed an nvidia driver but then my screen resolution is too big, now I can not change my screen resolution?
[09:44] <fyf> install tweak toil
[09:45] <besi> it is a linux mint os
[09:45] <MacroMan> I'm looking at changing partition sizes to increase /boot, but all the options require booting from live USB etc. Is there method I can use with the computer booted?
[09:45] <k1l> !mint | besi
[09:46] <k1l> besi: ask them, they handle some things differently than ubuntu
[09:46] <MacroMan> It's a live server that I cannot take offline, nor even physically access
[09:46] <k1l> MacroMan: you cant resize mounted partitions.
[09:46] <MacroMan> and I assume you can't unmount /boot?
[09:47] <k1l> most hosters have a recovery console for that
[09:47] <k1l> MacroMan: you can unmount /boot and resize that. but most times that included to shrink other partitions to make space.
[09:48] <MacroMan> Thanks. Would it be safe to umount and shrink /dev ?
[09:48] <MacroMan> Oh wait, that's not a disk
[09:49] <andystar> How do I check which kernel I have running?
[09:49] <MacroMan> uname -r
[09:50] <MacroMan> k1l, Anyway I've got /boot down to 39% usage for now. Thank you
[09:50] <andystar> Thanks MacroMan
[09:52] <andystar> alkisg showed me how to see if my graphics card worked with Ubuntu.
[09:52] <andystar> He gave me this link.
[09:52] <andystar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[09:53] <Whir> Hi, my wifi only works if I do a 'service network-manager restart' after boot..I tried to automate it via cron, but the network still does not come up..I guess cron restarts the service too early?! Is there another way to restart it later? when I do it manually after boot and login it succesfully connects me to the wifi network
[09:54] <Whir> syslog shows cron runs that command @reboot
[09:54] <andystar> It looks like my graphics card works with the driver that comes with Ubuntu.  The graphics card is:  01:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200 Series] [1002:5954]
[09:56] <k1l> andystar: that sounds like an old ati card. so your only chance is the open source radeon driver
[09:56] <andystar> My kernel, from the 'uname -r' command just given, is: 4.2.0-42-generic
[09:56] <k1l> andystar: what is "lsb_release -sd"?
[09:57] <andystar> k1l, Ubuntu 15.10
[09:58] <k1l> andystar: you need to upgrade to 16.04 asap.
[09:58] <andystar> Why?
[09:58] <k1l> !15.10
[09:58] <k1l> you are without any security updates since july last year
[09:58] <k1l> 16.04 is a LTS, that will have 5 years support from release day. so still 4 years left.
[09:59] <andystar> Does this have to do with getting support from the Ubuntu chat room?
[10:00] <k1l> that too. but just look at ubuntu.com/usn all those security related updates are not coming to your system since last july.
[10:00] <andystar> I am not running a web server.
[10:00] <k1l>  then upgrade asap
[10:01] <andystar> My computer is behind a firewall, and Linux doesn't get viruses.
[10:01] <k1l> that is wrong
[10:01] <anddam> any hint about the apt-cache question? can it search sections?
[10:01] <k1l> a firewall doesnt help you. and its not about viruse but about security issues in software. like bugs. they get fixed by ubuntu, but not for you anymore
[10:02] <k1l> andystar: really: upgrade to 16.04. then you have 4 years of not needing to upgrade left
[10:02] <andystar> Anyways, my main question was, if I install a new version of Ubuntu, I don't have to go with Xubuntu or Lubuntu anymore, if 3D graphics support works now?
[10:03] <hateball> andystar: you can just run a liveboot and find out. and you should upgrade to 16.04 regardless, like k1l said
[10:04] <andystar> k1l I am not quite opposed to upgrading every once in a while.
[10:05] <andystar> It was just, I used to upgrade as often as possible.
[10:05] <k1l> andystar: is there a reason why you dont want to upgrade? because you are on your own now when you dont want to upgrade. you are already 9 months late.
[10:05] <andystar> Then I discovered that reinstalling all of my software was too much of a hassle, even with a separate /home partition.
[10:06] <k1l> andystar: you dont need to reinstall. you can do the online upgrade
[10:06] <hateball> !clone |even if you do reinstall
[10:06] <andystar> k1l, Are you talking about the dist-upgrade command?
[10:06] <k1l> andystar: no, apt dist-upgrade doesnt upgrade to a new ubuntu
[10:06] <k1l> andystar: do-release-upgrade
[10:08] <andystar> Is it okay to go ahead and upgrade it to 16.10, instead of stopping at 16.04?
[10:08] <k1l> andystar: technically yes. but the way you try to justify your usage of 15.10 i dont think you should leave the lts, to be honest.
[10:09] <andystar> It was just based on a conversation with my brother, after vi didn't seem to work right.
[10:10] <andystar> He said I should install the vim package, and he wasn't in the habit of doing a clean reinstall every version.
[10:12] <andystar> I guess clean reinstalls are reserved for when your system has a problem?
[10:13] <andystar> Otherwise I can just do the do-release-upgrade command every six months?
[10:13] <k1l> the upgrade on ubuntu do get automated testings since some years now and they work.
[10:14] <hateball> andystar: if you upgrade past LTS, you'll need to do-release-upgrade every 6-9 months or you go EOL
[10:14] <hateball> and solving that situation down the line is an unneccessary hassle
[10:17] <andywork> about upgrades, are there any prompts in place on Ubuntu that warns the user when an lts or later version goes out of support?
[10:19] <andywork> k1l, hateball
[10:19] <hateball> andywork: afaik no
[10:20] <k1l> iirc the udpate-manager does this and the motd on ssh login
[10:20] <hateball> andywork: but for LTS, you wont get prompted to upgrade until the next (pointrelease) LTS is available
[10:20] <hateball> andywork: so that'd serve as a reminder at any rate
[10:21] <andywork> k1l, hateball: ok, thanks
[10:36] <MaxFrames> hello
[10:36] <MaxFrames> I have a 16.04 virtual machine which is somehow (can't remeber how) joined to a windows active directory domain
[10:37] <MaxFrames> I have renamed this machine, but the computer name and the dns host entry in the windows domain controller haven't reflected the change
[10:37] <MaxFrames> in an effort to troubleshoot this I've tried to install likewise-open-gui and found it's no longer in the repository
[10:37] <MaxFrames> can you help me? is there a tool (command line or gui) that has replaced likewise-open-* ?
[10:40] <hateball> MaxFrames: havent used this myself, but I think sssd is used these days https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/sssd-ad.html
[10:43] <MaxFrames> apparently this machine had been joined using likewise-open, and then upgraded to 16.04 from some previous release
[10:44] <MaxFrames> there are traces of likewise-open in /etc/krb5.conf
[10:45] <abacao> MaxFrames I had several issues when updating from 14.04 to 16.04 and mantain the retro compatibility
[10:45] <ppf> MaxFrames: how did you rename the machine
[10:46] <MaxFrames> ppf: via the gui: options-system-details-device name
[10:47] <abacao> MaxFrames:  I even submited a bug because Ubuntu 16.04 wasn't able to join a domain
[10:48] <abacao> and it seems that it isn't resolved yet
[10:48] <abacao> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1585111
[10:48] <ppf> MaxFrames: hm, no idea what that does
[10:49] <ppf> checki /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[10:49] <MaxFrames> done. I had to change the entry in /etc/hosts
[10:49] <MaxFrames> that still doesn't change computername in AD or update the A record
[10:50] <ppf> doesn't the domain controller manage those?
[10:51] <abacao> MaxFrames: I think your connection to AD is broken, so you can change whatever you want but you will not see any changes.
[10:51] <MaxFrames> I can delete the computer account manually and recreate it
[10:52] <MaxFrames> abacao: I too think so, I'm trying to fix it with sssd now
[10:53] <abacao> I suggest you try 2 approach:
[10:54] <abacao> - VM with 14.04 and try the solution, after you found it, try to replicate it to 16.04
[10:54] <abacao> - try to connect a fresh installed (no upgrade) 16.04 and see if it works
[10:55] <abacao> I found that the first implementation of 16.04 was quite bad when trying to use in a AD
[10:59] <Peanut> Hi - is there a simple way to configure Ubuntu to automatically share a network (provide routing and NAT) to a device that's connected with zeroconf?
[11:02] <Henster> hi @Peanut what are you trying to do?
[11:04] <Peanut> Henster: I've got a Rasberry Pi zero, set up with g_ether USB Gadget. It runs dhcpcd so takes an rfc3927 address. When I run avahi-autoipd on my desktop on the USB network interface, it becomes 'pi0.local'. I now the traditional way to set up network and the like, but am looking for a more modern, user friendly setup.
[11:04] <Peanut> Hester: in particular, I want to be able to provide full internet connectivity (DNS, NAT) to the pi0.
[11:05] <ndk> morning folks
[11:06] <ppf> Peanut: why not just bridge it?
[11:06] <wekesa> hello
[11:07] <Peanut> ppf: neats at least NAT, not bridging, because the IP address is in the IPv4LL address range.
[11:09] <ppf> yes, my suggestion is just bridge it into your desktop's network
[11:09] <ppf> saves you 6 hours of setup
[11:12] <ppf> if you seriously don't want to do that, then you neet to setup your NAT and dns
[11:13] <Peanut> ppf: I know how to setup NAT and DNS and the like, already did. I'm trying to see if all of that can be made much simpler for ephemeral interfaces such as usb network interfaces through zeroconf/avahi.
[11:15] <naliando52> Hj people
[11:15] <naliando52> Hi*
[11:15] <ppf> Peanut: don't know of any. there's certainly a bunch of firewall gui tools available
[11:16] <ppf> no idea if any one of those is any good
[11:20] <OlofL> Is there an app to open and edit visio 2013 files?
[11:20] <easyOnMe> I keyed in a terminal command like this: uname -a
[11:20] <easyOnMe> and it gave me like this
[11:20] <easyOnMe> 4.4.0-63-generic #84-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 1 17:23:56 UTC 2017 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:20] <Henster> im on LTE( cellphone internet ) im also planning to build a pfsense router on a old pc and have and use my LTE as a WAN over usb,,
[11:20] <easyOnMe> how do I know whether my laptop is 32-bit or 64-bit
[11:20] <Henster> @Peanut sorry
[11:21] <Peanut> easyOnMe: look at /proc/cpuinfo, then look up the CPU (likely Intel) on their website to see if the CPU supports 64bits mode.
[11:21] <Henster> @easyOnMe did you google your laptop model number and see what chip is uses?
[11:21] <benergy> Hey guys, does anyone know the right property in cinnamon.css to tweak the width of the panel when its on the left hand side of the screen?
[11:21] <easyOnMe> ok I see
[11:22] <Peanut> easyOnMe: You are currently running a 32bit OS on your laptop, otherwse it would say x86_64 instead of the i686
[11:22] <easyOnMe> I see
[11:23] <easyOnMe> ok that it explains it
[11:23] <easyOnMe> ok thanks
[11:24] <k1l> easyOnMe: lscpu can tell you
[11:25] <Peanut> Ah yes, lscpu is nice, it shows "CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit" on my machine.
[11:26] <easyOnMe> k1l: Architecture:          i686
[11:26] <easyOnMe> CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit
[11:26] <easyOnMe> Byte Order:            Little Endian
[11:26] <easyOnMe> so how do I know whether it is 32 or 64 bit
[11:26] <easyOnMe> k1l
[11:26] <k1l> its 64bit. but you installed 32bit OS
[11:27] <easyOnMe> what this is crap
[11:28] <easyOnMe> how can I change my os into 64 bit
[11:28] <easyOnMe> is there a way
[11:28] <easyOnMe> without having to reinstall
[11:28] <k1l> you cant
[11:28] <easyOnMe> oh man
[11:28] <easyOnMe> I should have been more careful next time
[11:29] <abacao> easyOnMe: don't worry, 32b versions will stop to exists
[11:29] <k1l> easyOnMe: "head /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:30] <alkisg> abacao: not for 7+ more years, will they? :)
[11:30] <easyOnMe> k1l: http://termbin.com/srvn
[11:31] <k1l> chrome and archlinux started already. ubuntu is linking to 64bit installs as standard.
[11:31] <Guest33038> I'm on ubuntu 16.10 on a dell inspiron 15. By closing the lid, the system crashes. Any hint?
[11:31] <easyOnMe> k1l: is there anything I can do to upgrade
[11:31] <k1l> easyOnMe: yes, that was a 32bit iso you used.
[11:31] <ppf> easyOnMe: better just reainstall
[11:31] <easyOnMe> ppf: don't say that I am in the middle of a web dev
[11:31] <easyOnMe> project
[11:31] <easyOnMe> this is really crap
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> !language | easyOnMe
[11:32] <easyOnMe> I am developing on a version that is not based on production environment
[11:32] <easyOnMe> thanks guys
[11:32] <easyOnMe> my goodness
[11:32] <easyOnMe> nobody told me
[11:32] <easyOnMe> what a painful learning experience this is
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> Guest33038: anything usefull in your dmesg/syslog?
[11:32] <easyOnMe> k1l: last question
[11:33] <easyOnMe> there is no terminal command to upgrade my linux to 64 bit from 32 bit
[11:33] <Guest33038> lotuspsychje, how I can see the logs?
[11:33] <ppf> easyOnMe: you should be able to just reinstall on top of your current os
[11:33] <easyOnMe> something similar to sudo apt full-upgrade
[11:33] <k1l> easyOnMe: no. reinstall
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> !dmesg | Guest33038
[11:33] <ppf> you need to backup your things of course
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> Guest33038: or manually browse to /var/log/syslog or dmesg
[11:35] <Guest33038> lotuspsychje, I'm not able to say if anything on dmesg is useful
[11:35] <Guest33038> lotuspsychje, [   19.516000] usb 1-1.2.1: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> Guest33038: check your logs, at the time that your machine is crashing
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> !paste | Guest33038 use this for larger logs
[11:36] <Guest33038> lotuspsychje, how can I see the logs if the machine crashes?
[11:36] <Guest72527> Hello. Does anyone here know if Canonical has a release schedule / policy for when security updates are published? I can't find any information on this when googling for it.
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> Guest33038: reboot and check the logs?
[11:37] <k1l> Guest72527: when they are known. look at ubuntu.com/usn
[11:38] <Guest72527> We patch our data center on tuesdays, and twice now we have seen new kernels being released only hours after finishing our patching.
[11:38] <Guest72527> kll: I know where the releases are announced. What I am trying to figure out is if there is a system to -when- they are published.
[11:38] <Guest33038> lotuspsychje, incredible, it doesn't crash anymore, now It simply logs out, which I don't want
[11:40] <k1l> Guest72527: that depends on the security issue. usually new kernels come in 2-3 week rhythm. but heavy issues get updateas asap after testing
[11:42] <Guest72527> k1l: Ok, so there is no schedule behind this? No policy saying 'release tuesdays, 24:00 gmt+4 unless critical, then release asap.'
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> Guest72527: k1l just said it depends on the security issue
[11:44] <easyOnMe> I am currently looking at the ubuntu website
[11:44] <k1l> Guest72527: i am not aware of a schedule. maybe the #ubuntu-hardened channel can give a more specific answer
[11:44] <easyOnMe> I want to download teh 16.04 LTS
[11:44] <Guest72527> Ok, thanks.
[11:45] <easyOnMe> but I do not see the 64 bit option around here
[11:45] <Guest72527> Have a good one.
[11:45] <k1l> easyOnMe: its called amd64
[11:46] <easyOnMe> which one is better 16.04LTS or 16.10LTS
[11:47] <k1l> easyOnMe: 16.10 is no lts
[11:47] <easyOnMe> oh ok so just use 16.04 then since its on lts
[11:48] <easyOnMe> k1l: but there is no amd64 choice around here
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> !download | easyOnMe
[11:48] <easyOnMe> it only show ubuntu server 16.04.2LTS and ubuntu server 16.10
[11:48] <k1l> if you use 16.10 you need to upgrade to 17.04 from april to july and upgrade to 17.10 6 minths after that and then to 18.04 after that....
[11:49] <easyOnMe> I am in this website:https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[11:49] <k1l> easyOnMe: so yes, install 16.04.2
[11:49] <k1l> easyOnMe: do you want a server or desktop?
[11:50] <easyOnMe> server
[11:50] <easyOnMe> means choose 16.10
[11:50] <easyOnMe> but it has no long term support
[11:50] <easyOnMe> so better us 16.04 right
[11:50] <easyOnMe> anyway 16.04 desktop can be used as server for web dev also right so long as you install the lampp stack on it
[11:50] <gebruiker> hmm, i would not use ubuntu for servers
[11:51] <k1l> easyOnMe: i explained that already, look above
[11:51] <mozart92> Hey peeps :D Do you think is a good idea pairing an intel celeron 1840 with a geforce 710? Or the integrated cpu is sufficient (maybe even better) ?
[11:51] <k1l> gebruiker: dont do that in here
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> mozart92: perhaps ask in ##hardware
[11:51] <mozart92> Ok ty
[11:52] <easyOnMe> ok
[11:52] <easyOnMe> thanks
[11:52] <k1l> easyOnMe: and you should not isntall that lamp package from the website, but use the build in ubuntu pacakges.
[11:52] <gebruiker> k1l: i am not doing anything that goes against eh IRC guidelines..
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> gebruiker: this channel is not for opinions
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> gebruiker: feel free to discuss this in #ubuntu-discuss
[11:53] <gebruiker> lotuspsychje: you must be joking, i only see opinions here
[11:53] <easyOnMe> k1l: sometimes built-in ubuntu packages sucks
[11:54] <k1l> easyOnMe: the lamp package is a security nightmare.
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> gebruiker: there's a difference between supporting ubuntu questions and personal opinions, i hope you understand this?
[11:54] <easyOnMe> k1l: i am currently downloading this ubuntu-16.04.2-desktop.iso about 10 mins to go
[11:54] <easyOnMe> I am really not sure whether this one is 64 bit
[11:55] <easyOnMe> is there a way for me to check it
[11:55] <easyOnMe> k1l:oh really
[11:55] <k1l> easyOnMe: where did you get that iso? because the original naming includes the architecture.
[11:55] <gebruiker> lotuspsychje: i am not working for ubuntu, I am trying to advise people the best way I can. I do not belong to the religion ubuntu
[11:56] <easyOnMe> hang on it is still downloading though
[11:56] <ndk> Usually the architecture is appended to the end of the filename easyOnMe
[11:56] <easyOnMe> so I can not really confirmed yet
[11:56] <ndk> Do you have the URL where you found the download link?
[11:56] <easyOnMe> but I got it from this website: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[11:56] <lotuspsychje> gebruiker: you have joined the ubuntu support channel, be wise and dont advise against using ubuntu-server then
[11:56] <ndk> Ah, that's the server edition easyOnMe
[11:56] <easyOnMe> I just clicked the one with the ubuntu server 16.04.2 LTS
[11:57] <k1l> easyOnMe: read the usage section, 2nd sentence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XAMPP#Usage
[11:57] <ndk> It is 64-Bit only easyOnMe
[11:57] <easyOnMe> ndk:oh I see
[11:57] <easyOnMe> so I just have to install it immediately then
[11:57] <k1l> easyOnMe: you said you want server, and loading a desktop iso?
[11:57] <gebruiker> lotuspsychje: i am not an advocate against ubuntu I am just stating something more prone to his needs
[11:58] <easyOnMe> k1l: hang on
[11:58] <k1l> easyOnMe: load that iso. then we will check the md5sum to make sure what iso that is
[11:58] <easyOnMe> once I am done with the donwloading I will tell you the exact name of the file I completed downloading
[11:58] <ndk> Scratch that easyOnMe, there are 32-Bit versions i apologise.
[11:58] <easyOnMe> ndk: there see
[11:58] <easyOnMe> it was just good to ask then
[12:05] <easyOnMe> k1l: ok so here is the complete filename after I completed the download: ubuntu-16.04.2-desktop-amd64
[12:05] <easyOnMe> so is this a go
[12:05] <easyOnMe> or do we need make further checks just to make sure it is 64-bit
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> easyOnMe: amd64 is the 64bit
[12:06] <Apachez> do there exist some gui based gtk debugger where I can just click on an object and the debugger will let me know which GTK property this is (and which settings are set etc)?
[12:07] <k1l> easyOnMe: so you want to isntall a desktop now? because you make confusing statements
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: perhaps look into apt-cache search debugger? choose what kind of debugger you need exactly?
[12:08] <easyOnMe> k1l: ok one last question though
[12:08] <easyOnMe> if I install desktop this is what I am currently using right now right to do my web dev because it has all the gui
[12:08] <Apachez> lotuspsychje: I failed hence why I ask in this ircchannel :)
[12:09] <easyOnMe> if I install the server it has no gui right
[12:09] <k1l> easyOnMe: yes, the server has no gui. they both share the same packages and base system.
[12:10] <d4rth__>  help
[12:10] <easyOnMe> oh ok
[12:10] <easyOnMe> then I will install the desktop then
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> !ask | d4rth__
[12:10] <easyOnMe> so do you want us to go through the process of the mdsum check
[12:10] <d4rth__> I'm sorry I meant to run "/msg NickServ help"
[12:10] <easyOnMe> I have the downloaded file in the usb stick though
[12:11] <easyOnMe> I can connect it here in this ubuntu laptop I am using right now
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: what kind of objects will you be debugging?
[12:13] <k1l> easyOnMe: the md5sum check will make sure there are no issues while download
[12:13] <k1l> !md5sum | easyOnMe
[12:18] <easyOnMe> k1l: ok
[12:18] <easyOnMe> will do now
[12:20] <easyOnMe> what's the terminal command to go the usb stick
[12:20] <easyOnMe> I tried using the mythumdrive
[12:21] <k1l> cd /path/where/its/mounted
[12:21] <easyOnMe> cd mythumbdrive it did not work
[12:21] <easyOnMe> ok I got it now
[12:21] <k1l> if its automounted by the desktop then most probably  /media/USER/... where user is your user name
[12:21] <easyOnMe> and I am going to do the checksum now
[12:24] <easyOnMe> k1l: I got this back: 1400884cec8e40a1a876b2678f81494b  ubuntu-16.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[12:25] <k1l> easyOnMe: that is correct for the 64bit desktop iso
[12:25] <easyOnMe> am I good to go
[12:25] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:27] <easyOnMe> k1l: thanks k1l
[12:28] <easyOnMe> doing the rufus on usb stick now
[12:29] <xgrep> how can i check the particular package if its instlaled or not in ubuntu
[12:29] <xgrep> and also how can i check if that particular service is running or not in ubuntu
[12:30] <k1l> xgrep: apt policy packagename
[12:30] <xgrep> how to solve this Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:31] <v2zz> hi! I try to mkfifo myPipe and then  I echo "IPC_example_between_two_shells">myPipe bash expects somethng else. what else do I need to put there?
[12:31] <w9qbj> xgrep, Q2 - ps -ef | grep processname
[12:31] <EriC^^> xgrep: try dpkg -l | grep dpkg
[12:31] <EriC^^> xgrep: if nothing is using it then sudo rm the lock file
[12:31] <v2zz> xgrep let that another process finish it's job, it will release lock then
[12:31] <k1l> xgrep: that means another update-manager of software center is running
[12:32] <EriC^^> v2zz: #bash might help better
[12:34] <xgrep> EriC^^: dpkg -l | grep apache2
[12:35] <EriC^^> xgrep: ?
[12:35] <xgrep> it doesnt return me anything however if i do ps -ef | grep apache
[12:35] <xgrep> i see a result
[12:35] <xgrep> v2zz: its nt finishing
[12:35] <xgrep> v2zz: how can we break the lock
[12:36] <EriC^^> xgrep: my bad, i meant ps aux | grep dpkg
[12:36] <k1l> xgrep: please give more details, what do you do, what ubuntu is it? what happend?
[12:37] <k1l> xgrep: killing the process or removing the lock is a good way to make a mess to your system. so dont just kill that
[12:37] <xgrep> k1l: i wanted to install something
[12:37] <xgrep> so it says unable to lock something
[12:37] <k1l> xgrep: details matter
[12:37] <xgrep> ubuntu 16
[12:38] <xgrep> EriC^^: what u want me to do with this command ps aux | grep dpkg
[12:38] <EriC^^> xgrep: check if any process is using dpkg in any way
[12:38] <k1l> xgrep: which what program did you do that? what happend?
[12:50] <rorro> I just noticed a weird "80 MB volume" icon on my system tray. Anyone know what it is? http://imgur.com/KPVkOkS
[12:51] <rorro> Or possibly help me identify it.
[12:51] <k1l> rorro: look at "sudoe parted -l"
[12:51] <k1l> *sudo not sudoe
[12:51] <EriC^^> rorro: it's probably a system reserve space for windows, try k1l 's command above
[12:51] <EriC^^> sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999      it'll give you a link paste it here
[12:53] <rorro> There doesn't seem to exist an 80MB partition
[12:53] <rorro> http://imgur.com/Lmq2qjq
[12:54] <rorro> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/6vhg
[12:54] <EriC^^> rorro: does "lsblk" show anything?
[12:55] <rorro> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/k7ns
[12:56] <EriC^^> rorro: it must be one of those loop devices at the bottom
[12:56] <rorro> Now the question is what the loop things are and why all of them are krita and why is krita doing that...
[12:57] <ataldis> when my gateway goes down, my lan slows down a lot.. ping times in the same lan goes up to 1500ms. Any idea what have I messed up in the configs?
[12:57] <EriC^^> rorro: something to do with snap i'd guess
[12:58] <rorro> Thanks EriC^^ for the help. I can now hopefully search further and get this sorted
[12:58] <EriC^^> rorro: no problem
[12:59] <ataldis> I have an ubuntu server with dhcp3-server, bind dns server (as cache) and samba server running.
[12:59] <ataldis> everything works just fine, as long as the router (which is the default gateway) doesn't goes down
[13:04] <ppf> ataldis: are you pinging an IP or a name?
[13:04] <ataldis> ppf, I tried both, same result
[13:05] <ataldis> it was the server I was trying to ping
[13:05] <ppf> try ping -n
[13:18] <ataldis> ppf, same results, but I'm starting to think I'm dealing with faulty hardware on the router
[13:23] <easyOnMe> k1l: I am done install now
[13:23] <easyOnMe> and I did lscpu and the architecture says: x86_64
[13:23] <easyOnMe> it means I got it right for 64-bit installation right
[13:23] <easyOnMe> *done installing sorry
[13:24] <k1l> easyOnMe: yes.
[13:24] <easyOnMe> nice :0
[13:24] <easyOnMe> ;)
[13:24] <easyOnMe> thanks a lot man
[13:25] <easyOnMe> yeehaa
[13:25] <easyOnMe> thanks a lot k1l
[13:25] <easyOnMe> thanks to the rest too who helped
[13:26] <k1l> np
[13:32] <raub> Dumb question of the morning: my ubuntu 16.04 desktop has two interfaces, each getting IP using dhcp. Now, since the dchp and dns server are the same box I would expect dns entries being created on both networks, but I am only seeing one. How come?
[13:34] <ikonia> why would it use 2 interfaces ?
[13:34] <ikonia> more so when those interfaces appear to be on the same network
[13:40] <PCatinean> What is the explanations behind fiding a .xls file with locate command but when navigating to that location it does not show up?
[13:40] <PCatinean> It's a samba server
[13:41] <mcphail> PCatinean: well, for a start, "locate" isn't live. It uses a database which needs to be refreshed
[13:47] <bekks> PCatinean: The fact that locate doesnt update its database in realtime.
[13:47] <PCatinean> ouch, had no idea
[13:47] <PCatinean> Is there any way I can find out what happened to that file?
[13:47] <PCatinean> Was it removed, moved somewhere else etc?
[13:47] <bekks> PCatinean: If you dont have logs - no.
[13:47] <PCatinean> And how does one locate real time a file?
[13:48] <PCatinean> In the filesystem
[13:48] <bekks> PCatinean: One doesnt, because thats not possible, technically.
[13:48] <EriC^^> PCatinean: find looks for stuff in real time
[13:48] <bekks> EriC^^: Thats not true.
[13:48] <EriC^^> find /path -iname "*something*"
[13:49] <bekks> Find doesnt operate in predictable time.
[13:50] <PCatinean> hmm
[13:51] <EriC^^> PCatinean: locate uses a database that gets updated with updatedb so it might be behind
[13:51] <EriC^^> try find
[14:00] <LJSeinfeld> Trying to figure out how to start a VM via systemd and running into trouble… Anyone here care to help?  I’m stumped.
[14:04] <brainwash> LJSeinfeld: I suggest that you describe what you have tried so far and which issues you have encountered. Maybe even ask in #systemd if the focus of your question is systemd.
[14:04] <LJSeinfeld> Thanks — I’m pastebinning stuff now...
[14:06] <anddam> how do you see the apostrophe in LJSeinfeld sentence?
[14:07] <anddam> my client is showing a question mark (it's known to have Unicode issue)
[14:07] <kv102t> not quite ubuntu, but can anyone help with syslog server. all setup but not collecting data on ubuntu?
[14:09] <brainwash> anddam: which irc client is that? do other applications show the ’ properly?
[14:10] <LJSeinfeld> I’ve created a basic systemd unit (I think that’s what it’s called) to start a virtualbox VM  and placed it in /etc/systemd/syste/   (see content here:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/24046623/)   when I tell systemctl to enable it, no error listed.  When I try to start it I get Failed to add /run/systemd/ask-password to directory watch: No such file or directory , Failed to start zoidberg.service: Unknown unit: zoidberg.service,
[14:10] <LJSeinfeld> See system logs and 'systemctl status zoidberg.service' for details.
[14:10] <anddam> brainwash: oh wow, so that's like a typographic apostrophe?
[14:10] <anddam> brainwash: you typed it as well
[14:10] <bekks> LJSeinfeld: Why dont you just use the virtualbox autostart facility as documented in the virtualbox documentation?
[14:11] <bekks> LJSeinfeld: Thats far more easy than your current approach.
[14:11] <LJSeinfeld> never even heard of it…
[14:11] <anddam> brainwash: it's not the IRC client per se, I have some issues with this box (a remote VM). It's running 16.04 and I'm using weechat on it via ssh
[14:11] <bekks> Never looked at the docs, then.
[14:11] <LJSeinfeld> lol, of course not…. :)
[14:11] <anddam> brainwash: played with locale a bit but couldn't quite figure what was wrong
[14:12] <brainwash> anddam: and outside of weechat?
[14:13] <anddam> brainwash: I've been suggested to use    curl -s https://www.w3.org/2001/06/utf-8-test/UTF-8-demo.html | tail -n+8 | head -n-3   to check
[14:13] <LJSeinfeld> searching / reading now.  bekks, do you know if it will respawn the VM if there is trouble?
[14:13] <bekks> Define trouble. :)
[14:13] <brainwash> anddam: wow. nice one
[14:14] <anddam> it shows an almost all-correct output, except a couple lines
[14:14] <anddam> brainwash: it shows the math symbols, Cyrillic, Greek, a couple things I don't know, braille
[14:15] <anddam> brainwash: but then I cannot even compose a char like ellipsis, I mean in terminal
[14:15] <anddam> ???
[14:15] <anddam> the terminal will just disply nothing, weechat a question mark
[14:15] <anddam> or three in case of ellipsis
[14:16] <brainwash> :(
[14:16] <brainwash> sadly, no clue how to fix that
[14:16] <LJSeinfeld> like if the VM crashes or virtualbox quits unceremoniously
[14:17] <bekks> LJSeinfeld: Then you have to restart your vms, after fixing the condition leading to the error. You can do seven by using phpvirtualbox even.
[14:17] <LJSeinfeld> a search for virtualbox autostart produces a lot of chaff…
[14:18] <gedas> Hello. Is there people who uses Lotus Notes??
[14:18] <bekks> gedas: I bet there are. Did I just win $100 for taking part in that poll?
[14:18] <bekks> gedas: If not, please just ask your actual question.
[14:19] <LJSeinfeld> bekks - looking at the Virtualbox gui, not seeing any mention of autostart in there… can you point me in the right direction?
[14:20] <bekks> LJSeinfeld: this works: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#autostart-linux
[14:20] <gedas> bekks, not realy. I have notes 5.8.3 server and upgraded traveler to 8.5.3 Update 2
[14:20] <bekks> LJSeinfeld: Look at the DOCS, not the GUI. :P
[14:20] <LJSeinfeld> I’m in there too…
[14:21] <gedas> and whene openning link server.my/servlet/traveler it retrusn 404 error: Reason: File not found or unable to read file
[14:21] <bekks> LJSeinfeld: So you found chapter 9.24.1
[14:21] <bekks> gedas: And you are running them on Ubuntu?
[14:21] <gedas> bekks, yes, 16.04
[14:21] <LJSeinfeld> lol… I’m reading …
[14:22] <bekks> gedas: So which part are you running on Ubuntu? The server or the client?
[14:23] <gedas> bekks, server. With older version worked and sync to phones was great. After upgrade all stuck
[14:23] <bekks> gedas: And did you check that file in question exists?
[14:24] <gedas> bekks, I don't know what to check. Guide me
[14:24] <LJSeinfeld> OK, so I read 9.21.1 …. lol, I may be more confused here than before
[14:24] <bekks> gedas: I have no clue about Notes. Maybe you'd better ask in a Lotus Notes dedicated channel.
[14:25] <gedas> bekks, I can't find one
[14:25] <bekks> LJSeinfeld: Maybe you should read 9.24.1 instead, as I'm telling you for the third time now.
[14:25] <LJSeinfeld> typo
[14:25] <LJSeinfeld> relax…I meant 9.24.1
[14:26] <bekks> LJSeinfeld: A 10s search revealed this guide, too: http://www.vionblog.com/virtualbox-4-3-autostart-debian-wheezy/
[14:29] <yeeve> hey chat, seems theres a bug when accessing SFTP files via the filemanager (gvfs?) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gvfs/+bug/1152883 but it seems the FileZilla handles the ownership stuff fine. Anyone had anything similar? Any known work arounds?
[14:29] <Dynetrekk1> any way I can get the screensaver to NOT lock the screen until, say, 1 minute has passed?
[14:30] <Dynetrekk1> it's annoying that I get no warning before screen lock
[14:42] <Maragart> @search hitchens
[14:46] <DarkPsydeLord> kittens!
[14:51] <freezer> hi
[14:52] <freezer> Whats a good Macro-Tool for Linux desktop, to automate Windows clicks, text entry etc
[14:52] <freezer> *window clicks
[14:58] <ojatko> hello everyone, I am on a live cd and I see strange usernames under /media folder, like guest-kl5ypm, guest-0smghl
[14:58] <ojatko> why do I see these there?
[15:00] <ericsysmin> how do i get into a more verbose prompt and status on ubuntu installation?
[15:00] <ericsysmin> if I am doing a network install and it fails, i actually want to see why it's failing
[15:00] <ericsysmin> not that it failed, but why it failed
[15:01] <k_sze> I have an Asus H170M-Plus motherboard, is there a way to get lm-sensors to report the chassis fan speed?
[15:01] <ericsysmin> Is there like a F4 option, or something to get terminal, as "Installation step failed" is probably the most descriptive error I've ever seen in my life.
[15:01] <k_sze> I have two chassis fans attached. Right now `sensors` only shows the CPU fan speed.
[15:02] <genii> ericsysmin: Check the tftpd/PXE/webserver logs on the boot server side
[15:03] <ericsysmin> really, nothing on the client? :( Damnnnn, really
[15:06] <MaxFrames> hello
[15:07] <MaxFrames> am I supposed to be able to get integration between an hyperv host and an ubuntu guest? namely clipboard sharing?
[15:07] <MaxFrames> is there any package I need to install on the guest to make it work?
[15:11] <Scrivener> I can't figure out how to get any GTK+ theme in Ubuntu to actually change the top bar of windows. Everything else seems to be modified by them, but the top bar of windows is always the default Unity bar. It should not be. I am on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. Any ideas as to what to look for?
[15:11] <ojatko> hello everyone, I am on a live cd and I see strange usernames under /media folder, like guest-kl5ypm, guest-0smghl
[15:11] <ojatko> why do I see these there?
[15:11] <Scrivener> For example, if I use Tweak Tool (gnome tweak tool) to swap to other GTK+ themes, the content of windows appears to change, but the titlebar still doesn't, just the default.
[15:12] <andywork> Scrivener: have you tried using unity-tweak-tool?
[15:12] <Scrivener> ojatko, I can't be sure, but that sounds to be like other media sources (local hard drives, SD cards, thumb drives, etc) are being mounted in the OS you're running live, prepended with the name of the user you're running as (the "guest" user)
[15:13] <Scrivener> andywork, I'll give it a go. I believe I tried that too, since I do have both
[15:13] <Scrivener> andywork, it's already set there, I tried unsetting it and resetting it (in this case, to the Arc Darker theme)
[15:14] <Scrivener> No luck. No matter what window decoration/theme I choose, the titlebar never changes
[15:14] <ojatko> Scrivener, but I haven't mounted other drives there. and they are only visible in gksudo mode
[15:15] <Scrivener> ojatko, some things can be manually mounted. When I have an SD card inserted, it automatically gets mounted under /media for me.
[15:15] <Scrivener> some things can be automatically mounted*, I mean
[15:16] <ToxicTIger> Hello guys
[15:17] <emachines> xdxdx
[15:17] <ojatko> Scrivener, yes, usb or sd type of devices do that, but the only other systems in my case are the other OSes on the disk. I never saw an OS being mounted by itself
[15:18] <emachines> quieb esta
[15:18] <ojatko> just wondering if unmounted OSes are shown in gksudo mode..that would explain it
[15:18] <Scrivener> ojatko, I couldn't really say
[15:19] <emachines> what
[15:19] <ojatko> Scrivener, me neither :) thank you for your help
[15:20] <emachines> english jaja
[15:22] <emachines> hablen
[15:23] <ToxicTIger> I would like to have some help for a problems, I have installed Ubuntu mate 16.04.2 LTS installation its well past. But I wanted to boot on my usb key, I have more access to bios, I made F2, F12, DEL. Its not walking, I have a blue screen 2 seconds and its boot safe the ubuntu office. I made a clear CMOS 30 minutes. It does not work.
[15:24] <emachines_> j
[15:24] <emachines> hola
[15:25] <ToxicTIger> hello
[15:25] <weilz> im new here
[15:25] <emachines> thanks
[15:25] <emachines_> hola
[15:26] <emachines> jaja
[15:27] <Southern_Gentlem> !es | emachines
[15:30] <weilz> ive a question to throw
[15:31] <xplora1a> ToxicTIger, what sort of machine, laptop, desktop, is it BIOS or UFEI
[15:35] <ToxicTIger> xplora1a
[15:35] <ToxicTIger> Desktop
[15:35] <ToxicTIger> UFEI
[15:36] <xplora1a> how did you create the USB stick? does it work on other machines?
[15:37] <ToxicTIger> I use Gnome disk and yes my USB key boot very well on my other pc
[15:38] <xplora1a> UFEI so you will need to turn off secure boot, sometimes this is labelled legacy mode.
[15:38] <ToxicTIger> How do I do if I do not have access to bios?
[15:38] <xplora1a> this will be in the BOIS settings
[15:39] <xplora1a> is the BIOS settings pages locked, ie corporate machine?
[15:40] <ToxicTIger> I can not get into the bios
[15:41] <xplora1a> Why? because you dont know how? or because it is locked?
[15:42] <ToxicTIger> When I start my pc there is a blue screen and it arrives on the desktop mate
[15:44] <xplora1a> ToxicTIger, your problem is to get into the BIOS settings, if you can't do that and secure boot is turned on you will not be able to boot anything other that the Windows that came with the machine.
[15:45] <rt_ctx> Hi, I have an problem with Evolution mail client. I want to install evolution-activesync (https://github.com/GNOME/evolution-activesync/blob/master/INSTALL) but I can't find  the directory containing the package's source code.
[15:45] <ToxicTIger> It is me who has to mount my pc
[15:46] <elias_a> ToxicTIger: Well, mount your PC then. :P
[15:49] <weilz> got a question gus
[15:49] <weilz> guys*
[15:51] <xplora1a> rt_ctx, have you followed all of this https://github.com/GNOME/evolution-activesync/blob/master/INSTALL
[15:51] <rt_ctx> Yes exactly
[15:51] <w9qbj>  weilz   Just ask the Q
[15:52] <rt_ctx> xplora1a : But I didn't find where I must use "./configure". A point 1.
[15:52] <weilz> ok sorry lol
[15:52] <xplora1a> and it complied with no errors?
[15:52] <weilz> ok im trying to pipe and exec a file in terminal
[15:52] <rt_ctx> xplora1a : Yes the mail client compiled with no error
[15:55] <rt_ctx> xplora1a : It's ok. I found my mistake. thank you ^^
[15:55] <weilz> using xargs
[15:55] <xplora1a> I presume you have cloned the repository git clone git@github.com:GNOME/evolution-activesync.git
[15:55] <weilz> but it gives a permission denied
[15:56] <weilz> heres the code
[15:56] <ojatko> hello again, clam antivirus doesnt work, I click on GUI items, but no response. I'd installed it from synaptic with related packages..could that have caused a conflict? else how can I try it from the command line? I typed clamav or clam, but didnt work
[15:56] <weilz> ls |grep manager-linux-x64.run | xargs ./
[15:57] <hhee> guys, is it real to increase number of recently userd application in ubuntu unity dash?
[15:58] <hhee> used* sorry for type
[16:00] <KillCMOS> Hi there people!
[16:01] <transhuman_> anyone able to pastebin php7.conf and php7.load from /etc/apache2/mods-available/ ? from the latest ubuntu. I am trying to adapt a similar format on my alpine-linux setup . Thanks in advance
[16:01] <xplora1a> weilz, so that is trying to execute all the files that match that name. what directory are you running that in. try without the | xargs and see what files it is running, have a look at those files...
[16:01] <KillCMOS> I need a link to any page that talk about how to install a usb modem
[16:01] <KillCMOS> something about how to install mgetty to a phone line
[16:02] <KillCMOS> i'm looking for but i can not find nothing about...
[16:02] <KillCMOS> keep searching
[16:02] <KillCMOS> thank!
[16:02] <xplora1a> KillCMOS, are you runniong networkManager it will recognise most USB Modems.
[16:02] <weilz> xplora1a, well the only file in that list is  manager-linux-x64.run
[16:03] <weilz> if i run sudo ./manager-linux-x64.run ,it works
[16:03] <weilz> i just want to automate the process of going to the directory with a one-liner code
[16:04] <KillCMOS> xplorala, yes, but it doesnt can find it
[16:05] <xplora1a> KillCMOS, do lsusb, then plug it in and do lsusb, can you see the modem in the list
[16:05] <KillCMOS> when I use lsusb it show the modem
[16:05] <KillCMOS> yes
[16:05] <KillCMOS> rigth
[16:05] <KillCMOS> i saw it with lsusb
[16:05] <xplora1a> paste in the modem line from lsusb
[16:05] <KillCMOS> Bus 002 Device 004: ID 047e:2892 Agere Systems, Inc. (Lucent) Systems Soft Modem
[16:05] <KillCMOS> it is show
[16:06] <KillCMOS> but i try to use kppp or similars, but without luck
[16:08] <KillCMOS> xplorala, i try to check the modem making the consult using kppp, you know, but it doenst find the device
[16:09] <brym> afternoon all
[16:10] <RxMcDonald> n>window.innerWidth
[16:10] <darknish> afternoon
[16:10] <RxMcDonald> n> window.innerWidth
[16:10] <khyrthysurmate> bonjour
[16:10] <RxMcDonald> n> window.Array.isArray()
[16:10] <rcmainak> hey, one of my friend is having laptop / wi-fi issue. Can anyone help me solve the problem for her? since she can't get on IRC...
[16:11] <khyrthysurmate> hello !
[16:12] <khyrthysurmate> there is a people?
[16:12] <Southern_Gentlem> nope we are all bots
[16:13] <brym> speak for yourself. i moonlight as a people sometimes
[16:14] <weilz> anyone?
[16:14] <brym> everyone?
[16:15] <weilz> any geeky command line pro here?
[16:15] <nacc> weilz: not really the topic of the channel
[16:15] <transhuman_> weilz what are you looking for
[16:15] <nacc> weilz: but it also feels like you basically have the solution, right?
[16:16] <MaxFrames> hello
[16:16] <weilz> nacc, where to look ?
[16:16] <nacc> !alis | weilz: probably a bash channel or so
[16:16] <MaxFrames> how can I copy and paste text from hyper-v host to ubuntu guest?
[16:16] <weilz> nacc, i have a normal way to do it
[16:16] <nacc> weilz: but honestly, I think you're just obviously missing sudo
[16:16] <transhuman_> weilz is this with bash?
[16:16] <nacc> weilz: and i have no clear idea why you need this :) if it's just to run a command
[16:16] <weilz> traushman, yes
[16:17] <transhuman_> try #bash
[16:17] <MaxFrames> I have checked that linux integration services are installed in ubuntu 16.04 to integrate ubuntu guest in hyperv host but clipboard sharing does not work
[16:17] <MaxFrames> what do I have to do in ubuntu to make it work
[16:17] <Southern_Gentlem> MaxFrames, you dont
[16:17] <weilz> transhuman_, i mea no
[16:17] <weilz> transhuman_, i meant NO, its a .run file
[16:17] <OerHeks> MaxFrames,  ask the #hyperv guys??
[16:18] <MaxFrames> OerHeks: they have no idea, say it's a problem for linux/ubuntu channels
[16:18] <transhuman_> weilz open it up  what does the first line say
[16:18] <OerHeks> MaxFrames, unlikely, also not an ubuntu issue either.
[16:19] <MaxFrames> OerHeks: that's what I was told, I dunno
[16:19] <weilz> transhuman_, well the file shows some gibberish coloured stuffs,
[16:19] <MaxFrames> Southern_Gentlem: can you elaborate? I've found some tutorials on how to configure ubuntu 16.04 for hyperv integration (didn't work though)
[16:19] <transhuman_> oh its not source
[16:19] <skinux> If RAM and SWAP are both being used efficiently, should there be noticable lag with the use of SWAP?
[16:19] <nacc> weilz: your question is how to do it with xargs, basically. You probably just need to | xargs sudo ./
[16:20] <nacc> weilz: as you ran it with sudo, not as your regular user
[16:20] <skinux> And cached memory is "given back" whenever a software needs it right?
[16:20] <nacc> weilz: and at this point, it's clearly not a support issue, it's a how do i use xargs issue
[16:20] <OerHeks> MaxFrames, they should point you to clipboard https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/virtual_pc_guy/2008/01/15/understanding-the-clipboard-menu-under-hyper-v/
[16:20] <transhuman_> you could create a bash file change to the required directory and then execute that file from the next line in the small script you write (probably with sudo permissions)
[16:20] <weilz> nacc, pits more or less how to do i use a xargs issue
[16:21] <Southern_Gentlem> skinux, and what speed is your harddrive
[16:21] <nacc> weilz: and even more generally, you clearly showed that you needed sudo to run the command earlier, so why aren't you using sudo in your xargs version?
[16:21] <MaxFrames> OerHeks: I know how the feature works in hyper-v, but if I use it on the ubuntu guest it does not paste anything
[16:22] <weilz> nacc, i must have omitted that.. using
[16:22] <weilz> ls |grep manager-linux-x64.run | sudo xargs ./ gives me a xargs :./ permission denied
[16:22] <nacc> weilz: is that the verbatim output?
[16:23] <weilz> transhuman_, i guess thats the only way i have to do it
[16:23] <MaxFrames> Southern_Gentlem: can you please check out this? https://oitibs.com/hyper-v-lis-on-ubuntu-16/
[16:23] <transhuman_> you might be able to do it with xargs
[16:23] <MaxFrames> I've tried to do what is written there, but there was no change... still no clipboard sharing
[16:23] <weilz> nacc, yes the output is xargs: ./ permission denied
[16:23] <transhuman_> try doing this first su root then execute the xargs command
[16:24] <nacc> weilz: well that's the issue, presumably `ls | grep manager-linux-x64.run` returned nothing
[16:24] <transhuman_> not that thats a good way of doing it
[16:25] <nacc> weilz: are you in a directory containing 'manager-linux-x64.run'? hint: use a pastebin for all of this, and i'd stop asking each question individually
[16:25] <weilz> nacc, ls |grep manager-linux-x64.run returned this
[16:25] <MaxFrames> my questions are: 1) is that procedure correct/useful to obtain the correct integration of the ubuntu guest? 2) clipboard sharing is just not provided/impossible (I've found forum posts saying that it worked?) 3) how does one exchange text between host and guest?
[16:25] <raub> Trying to install the pepperflashplugin on an ubuntu 16.04 box: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24047267/
[16:25] <weilz> manager-linux-x64.run
[16:26] <raub> It seems to have grabbed package but where is it unpacking it
[16:26] <weilz> transhuman_, if i ran the command on a .sh file like this
[16:26] <transhuman_> so whats the output of ls -al in that directory ?
[16:27] <nacc> weilz: *please* use a pastebin.
[16:27] <nacc> weilz: showing each command, it's output, etc.
[16:27] <brym> MaxFrames, you could try ssh'ing into ubuntu, pasting the text into a new file, and using that file of text from within vnc et al from there.
[16:27] <pavlos> weilz, try, ls -al manager-linux-x64.run (should be one line)
[16:27] <weilz> nacc,rightaway
[16:27] <MaxFrames> brym: I see... :( involved
[16:28] <weilz> pavlos,transhuman, -rwx------ 1 root root 3361003 Jun 10  2013 manager-linux-x64.run
[16:28] <brym> MaxFrames, a quick google shows that it's been asked on Reddit and StackExchange for at least a year.
[16:29] <transhuman_> type who am i weilz
[16:29] <transhuman_> sorry whoami
[16:29] <dannyLopez> What is the "name" of the keys function? I mean, F1=="Meta2-P"
[16:29] <weilz> whoami gives root
[16:30] <brym> MaxFrames, one redittor suggests using AutoHotKey (.com) as a workaround
[16:30] <transhuman_> my quess is your missing a switch with xargs
[16:30] <compdoc> MaxFrames, I use x2go server and client, and clipboard works great. but you cant use the standard ubuntu desktop. You have to use a 2d desktop like Mate
[16:31] <transhuman_> show me the xargs command again...cant find it in scrollback lines
[16:32] <Ghostdox> hello
[16:32] <weilz> http://pastebin.com/BHfTrdmG
[16:32] <theseb> is /etc/init.d part of systemd ?
[16:33] <drab> hi, can anybody recommend a good guide, best if in video format, to give to someone new to linux and ubuntu?
[16:33] <weilz> ls |grep manager-linux-x64.run | sudo xargs ./
[16:33] <xfceone> I can`t open nginx virtualhost in browser why?
[16:34] <drab> something that can help them not just get started with ubuntu, but also understand a bit what's going on "under the hood"
[16:34] <transhuman_> what directory are you executing the ls -al command in? it doesnt show in that output
[16:35] <weilz> nacc, how to use msg alis again?
[16:35] <transhuman_> how about trying ls | grep manager-linux.x64.run | xargs /opt/lammp/
[16:35] <nacc> !alis | weilz
[16:37] <kur1j> Have two video cards, one is the main display the other I want to passthrough to a VM. Is it possible to blacklist a dkms nvidia driver and prevent it loading for a specific video card? I added the nvidia_378 to the /etc/modules/blacklist and updated initramfs but the nvidia driver keeps grabbing the card on boot
[16:37] <weilz> transhuman_, that shows xargs: /opt/lammp/: No such file or directory
[16:37] <lorddoskias> how do i increase my coredump files limit. currently it's 0 and i like to set it to unlimited. ulimit -c unlimited says operation not permitted, and sudo ulimit -c unlimited says command not found since this is a shell built-in. Also I have changed my coredump pattern to not use apport
[16:38] <nacc> weilz: i feel like this is why most people use `find` for piping to xargs
[16:38] <pavlos> weilz, the dir is /opt/lampp (not lammp, 2 p's
[16:39] <nacc> weilz: but even so, xargs is the wrong choice here, afaict, as if you had two matching files via grep, xargs will not do the rigth thing without at least a flag
[16:40] <weilz> transhuman_, still shows xargs: /opt/lampp/: Permission denied
[16:40] <transhuman_> I would try #bash they will know the right syntax for xargs
[16:40] <weilz> !alis
[16:41] <transhuman_> as I said my guess is your missing a switch with xargs
[16:41] <weilz> ok transhuman, nacc..thanks for troubleshootng with me..
[16:42] <weilz> bytheway ,ive been typing msg Alis list http
[16:42] <weilz> nothing happens
[16:43] <transhuman_> good luck weilz hope you find your answer
[16:43] <weilz> i hope i do.. thanks a bunch...
[16:44] <weilz> !alis | weilz
[16:44] <nacc> weilz: you either use /msg Alis list http, or if already in a PM with alis, use 'list http'
[16:45] <transhuman_> how about trying ls | grep manager-linux.x64.run | xargs /opt/lampp/.\
[16:46] <transhuman_> anyways I don't know thats all the help I can provide
[16:46] <nacc> weilz: at this point, i have no idea why it's worth spending time on when you can just type `sudo /opt/lampp/manager-linux.x64.run`
[16:47] <transhuman_> anyone able to pastebin php7.conf and php7.load from /etc/apache2/mods-available/ ? from the latest ubuntu. I am trying to adapt a similar format on my alpine-linux setup . Thanks in advance
[16:48] <transhuman_> currently on my ubuntu system which is working I have php5.load and php5.conf and dont want to mess it up
[16:48] <pavlos> weilz, couldn't you cd /opt/lampp; ./manager-linux-x64.run as described in https://www.apachefriends.org/faq_linux.html
[16:49] <nacc> pavlos: seems like it, yeah -- there seem to be many ways that are better than xargs in this particular case :)
[16:50] <momken> hello
[16:50] <momken> I am installing skype from Ubuntu partner repo
[16:50] <tmuwa> exit
[16:51] <momken> After doing "apt-get install skype" it tries to install many foo:i386 packages. Is it normal?
[16:51] <transhuman_> momken skype is i386, for a while they had a 64 version
[16:52] <transhuman_> it was in beta not sure if its still out there
[16:52] <pavlos> momken, yes, it brings 32bit compat libs
[16:52] <momken> Actually more than 100 i386 packages. Is it normal? Won't create any conflict for the amd64 libraries?
[16:53] <MaxFrames> another problem
[16:54] <MaxFrames> I have joined a lubuntu 16.04 to an active directory domain
[16:54] <MaxFrames> it receives its ip from a debian dhcp server
[16:54] <dannyLopez> What is the "name" of the keys function? I mean, F1=="Meta2-P"
[16:54] <MaxFrames> it fails to automatically update its host record in the active directory dns server
[16:55] <MaxFrames> how do I configure it so that it always updates the host record?
[16:55] <pavlos> momken, can you pastebin, sudo apt-get install --dry-run skype
[16:55] <transhuman_> ok so I guess I will have to take a snapshot of my ubuntu install...install php7 and uninstall php5 to find out what these two files look like...
[16:57] <nacc> transhuman_: launch a container or VM?
[16:59] <arthur> hello
[16:59] <arthur> quit help
[17:01] <MaxFrames> how to update host record FROM ubuntu TO windows dns server? what's the command?
[17:01] <MaxFrames> to first see if it updates manually
[17:01] <transhuman_> yes for sure nacc, I was just hoping someone would have a quick answer no problem
[17:03] <kcroot_> anyone couldt tell me WTF is going on with minimal install and postinstallation of xfce4,
[17:03] <kcroot_> because i install xfce4 for minimal, after login in lightdm can't open session
[17:05] <weilz_> ...
[17:05] <mossi> Hi
[17:05] <mossi> I have a doubt, I have installed ubuntu server 14.04 and I just inserted a hard disk with previous information, how should I do the "mount" to use it as storage?
[17:06] <transhuman_> kcroot did it ever work?
[17:07] <pavlos> mossi, does dmesg list the inserted drive as /dev/sdX when X=a,b,c,...
[17:08] <KillCMOS> hello there friends!. there is someone working with ARToolKit to make augmented reality? I have problems with the SDK. Thanks!
[17:09] <transhuman_> mossi what file format
[17:09] <transhuman_> s/file/filesystem is it ext4? or other
 yes, /dev/sdb1, /dev/sdb2, /dev/sdb5 and /dev/sdb6
[17:11] <kcroot_> transhuman_: this is fresh install on msi laptop
[17:11] <transhuman_> I know but what format is the drive your trying to mount ?
[17:11] <transhuman_> your saying its blank
[17:12] <k1l> kcroot_: so lightdm comes up? you login, choose xfce and then what?
[17:13] <transhuman_> oops kcroot wrong person
[17:14] <basil1x> And again with the random lockups.
[17:16] <transhuman_> well I can't sit around all day waiting for a response, sorry mossi!
[17:23] <gimpy2938> Why can't ubuntu user names have a dot in them?  any way to bypass this dump restriction in the installer?
[17:25] <ALFA> osa
[17:27] <nacc> gimpy2938: more than likely various things (like for instance shell globbing) will break
[17:27] <nacc> gimpy2938: so no, don't bypass it
[17:27] <gimpy2938> nacc: works fine in every other Linux/Unix I've ever used
[17:27] <gimpy2938> it's also POSIX compliant
[17:27] <gimpy2938> it would not break globbing at all, why do you think it would?
[17:28] <nacc> gimpy2938: what does ls ~user.name/ evaluate to if you have users named user.name and user1name installed?
[17:28] <gimpy2938> don't give a shit
[17:28] <nacc> gimpy2938: it was just a guess, don't be rude
[17:28] <gimpy2938> why would I glob usernames?
[17:28] <nacc> gimpy2938: your shell may do that all the time, do you know that it does or doesn't?
[17:28] <OerHeks> gimpy2938, you are wrong. it is NOT posix, a dot in username
[17:29] <gimpy2938> really, because whle looking up how to get around it I found two sources that show it is ... not sure which version of POSIX
[17:29] <OerHeks> e.g.. " a dot . may be used for a Ubuntu username, the NAME_REGEX just has to be changed in /etc/adduser.conf"
[17:29] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/405638/what-are-the-disadvantages-of-having-a-dot-in-a-user-name
[17:29] <gimpy2938> again, this works in other distros and unix boxen too, not sure by ubuntu needs  to be special
[17:30] <gimpy2938> yea, saw that and so far it doesn't work ... installer still won't allow it
[17:33] <pavlos> mossi, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:33] <wedgie> . isn't special in glob. that's regex
[17:33] <brainwash> gimpy2938: including debian?
[17:35] <kcroot_> k1l: i can't open session of xcfe4
[17:35] <kcroot_> k1l: did not started
[17:35] <nacc> wedgie: yes, sorry, mis-described. I meant simply that having . in strings in the shell may lead to odd issues
[17:36] <webly> hi
[17:36] <webly> what does this plugin mean? : https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-ubuntu-gzopen-fix/
[17:37] <webly> gzopen fix? censorship?
[17:37] <webly> :O
[17:37] <OerHeks> webly, ask in #wordpress ?
[17:37] <webly> OerHeks: it is a wordpress plugin, but my question is related to the ubuntu part of it.
[17:39] <nacc> webly: what ubuntu part of it? they seem to be using the string ubuntu in their description, but that's about it
[17:39] <cdidd> Does anybody know if it's possible to force chrome to match url substring? For example for me it matches true_something if I type true_ , but doesn't match anything if I type something.
[17:39] <Ze_Miguel> good morning
[17:40] <Ze_Miguel> how to resolve freezing ubuntu ideapad 100s 11" lby
[17:40] <Ze_Miguel> ??''
[17:40] <webly> nacc: hm, ok
[17:41] <Pici> webly: The link from the Other Notes tab suggests that this is fixed in 14.04.
[17:44] <Ze_Miguel> help me
[17:45] <JJ_298034> I'm trying to install Iridium browser but there's no support in the app downloader. From their website (https://iridiumbrowser.de/downloads/linux.html), is it just copy-paste line by line into terminal and it will add it to the repositories and keep Iridium auto-updated?
[17:46] <nacc> JJ_298034: yes, but not officially supported, of course
[17:46] <JJ_298034> nacc: Great stuff, thanks!
[17:46] <OerHeks> JJ_298034, yes, the "wget -qO - https:// ....pub | sudo apt-key add  will add the key to make safe updates possible
[17:47] <JJ_298034> OerHeks: Ah, I see. I've added repos before but there were a lot of unknown commands so wanted some of you gurus to check there weren't any funky business. Oh, and if it was separate lines/commands. ^^
[17:48] <JJ_298034> New on Ubuntu after a year on Mint. I'm one of those who fell instantly in love with Unity.
[17:50] <OerHeks> JJ_298034, just be carefu‎ll with 3rd party repos.
[17:51] <Surendil> hi everyone, I know this is not the right place, but.... anyone know how to run qemu vm? I've installed qemu, read howto but I'm not able to find qemu binary, http://paste.debian.net/916244/ these are my installed packages
[17:51] <JJ_298034> OerHeks: Good tip. I try to verify repos and doublecheck the legitimacy of PPA's. :)
[17:52] <nacc> Surendil: you probably would run the kvm binary, fwiw, rather than qemu
[17:52] <nacc> Surendil: it's just a wrapper, admittedly
[17:52] <nacc> Surendil: but qemu is invoked genearlly via qemu-system-<arch>
[17:53] <nacc> Surendil: given that you are on debian, though, if that doesn't work, consult their IRC
[17:54] <Surendil> nacc: thanks, I'll check kvm.
[17:54] <Surendil> nacc: does kvm support ARM os?
[17:57] <nacc> Surendil: kvm doesn't support an OS, I'm not sure what you mean
[17:57] <nacc> Surendil: kvm is a kernel-level technology, for accelerating virtualization. The binary is just a wrapper around qemu using a specific flag, iirc
[17:59] <brunch875> I <strongly> dislike how notifications in unity aren't fast enough
[18:00] <brunch875> on the other hand I love how unity behaves, and so I jumped back to it from gnome3
[18:00] <brunch875> has anyone found a solution for this?
[18:03] <OerHeks> brunch875, not in unity tweak, but there is a ppa with notify tools http://www.webupd8.org/2016/05/customize-notifyosd-notification.html
[18:07] <brunch875> OerHeks, thanks for the link
[18:07] <brunch875> I'm still not entirely satisfied with how to get them to behave though :/
[18:07] <brunch875> best notification system is on ubuntu-touch from my point of view
[18:07] <brunch875> we should get more of these
[18:08] <OerHeks> the api is open, so be creative :-)
[18:21] <oquidave_> Hello, am having some e errant program that's causing a lot of outbound traffic from my box. I no idea what is it. I've used tcpdump to identify the offending ip but I don't know which program is compromized. Here's my tcpdump output https://dpaste.de/S05e
[18:25] <erle-> where can I see my /actual/ cpu frequency?
[18:26] <nacc> erle-: what do you mean by '/actual/' ?
[18:27] <erle-> nacc, it always shows 800 mhz (i7 with up to 3500)
[18:27] <erle-> e.g. /proc/cpuinfo
[18:27] <nacc> erle-: that's the /actual/ cpu frequency your processor is running at
[18:28] <james1138> My question is more of a "tweak". Would anyone know how to get (or trick) Banshee into auto-update metadata from LastFM when I rescan music folder for new files?
[18:28] <nacc> erle-: via a powersaving stepping, etc
[18:28] <erle-> nacc, but it never changes, even when I launch openssl speed
[18:28] <erle-> nacc, did this change with Ubuntu 16.10
[18:28] <erle-> ?
[18:29] <erle-> cpufreq does not seem to work any longer
[18:29] <nacc> erle-: not that I know of, and it changes normally here
[18:29] <erle-> nacc, I mean did they introduce a new kernel module for this?
[18:30] <erle-> nacc, the whole cpufreq stuff does not seem to be "in" any more
[18:31] <nacc> erle-: cpufreq is rather old, iirc, I think it's all done via cstates in the kernel
[18:31] <nacc> erle-: well, presuming intel
[18:31] <nacc> erle-: i don't know, though, it's presumably dependent upon your cpu type, etc
[18:32] <erle-> i7, as I wrote, nacc
[18:32] <nacc> erle-: not all i7 are the same, aiui, but regardless, I have an i7 as well and no issue here
[18:33] <nacc> erle-: i'm on 17.04 now, but was on 16.10 until this past weekend w/o problem
[18:34] <erle-> nacc, I upgraded several times from 14.10
[18:34] <erle-> maybe some change was lost
[18:36] <user31241> test
[18:36] <user31241> ah nice.
[18:37] <user31241> Is there a "software sources" application for Ubuntu or independent, that is similar to one in Linux Mint? Thank you
[18:38] <basil1x> Why does 16.04 think my 1440p monitor is a 'built-in display' and only giving me 1024x768 as a display option?
[18:38] <OerHeks> user31241, yes, type sources in dash ..
[18:38] <user31241> OerHeks: but not this one. This one is very primitive.. :)
[18:39] <user31241> OerHeks:  :(* wrong smiley, sorry
[18:39] <OerHeks> user31241, on what ubuntu version ?
[18:39] <user31241> OerHeks: On latest LTS
[18:39] <k1l> user31241: there is no 3rd party repo menu.
[18:39] <OerHeks> just use the sources tab in updates.
[18:39] <k1l> user31241: because other than mint, the main target on ubuntu is not to use 3rd party repos all over.
[18:40] <k1l> basil1x: adapters involved?
[18:40] <basil1x> GTX 1060 6GB through Display Port
[18:41] <user31241> k1l: But I want more software and don't want back to gentoo..
[18:41] <k1l> user31241: what more software do you need? is it not available in the ubuntu repos?
[18:41] <OerHeks> !ppa
[18:41] <basil1x> I had this issue on an rx480 through DVI on another computer, but this one with the nvidia was working fine until literally an hour ago.
[18:43] <user31241> k1l: ppa:maarten-baert/simplescreenrecorder ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8 ppa:nickguletskii200/glxosd ppa:varlesh-l/indicator-kdeconnect ppa:skunk/pepper-flash ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa Repos: google talk, getdeb, playonlinux, virtualbox(for HWE kernel),
[18:45] <Guest32961> I can ask world of tank on ubuntu
[18:45] <OerHeks> user31241, check those ppa's, i guess you have an old howto list
[18:45] <user31241> For example, current virtualbox breaks with hwe kernel and requires PPA.  So, back to the question, is there a GUI sources manager application similar to one of Linux Mint?
[18:45] <OerHeks> like that pepperflashppa , dead
[18:45] <user31241> OerHeks: sorry what?
[18:46] <OerHeks> there is a gui sources tab, to add those ppa adresses.
[18:46] <OerHeks> in the latest lts.
[18:47] <user31241> OerHeks: oh, they dropped the automatic blob download from that PPA. Makes it useless for me, will have to pull PPAPI by hand as usual...
[18:48] <BluesKaj> basil1x, have you checked additional drivers ?
[18:48] <OerHeks> user31241, flash is dead, disabled by default
[18:48] <user31241> OerHeks: Its not, its cool and its usable
[18:48] <user31241> OerHeks: PPAPI works fine with Firefox on Ubuntu and Gentoo
[18:48] <user31241> and Debian
[18:49] <user31241> OerHeks: I dislike HTML5 for applications. Flash data is self-contained downloadable blob. HTML5 is all over the site. For just videos HTML5 is fine.
[18:50] <basil1x> BluesKaj, Checking that now.  But why would it be working and suddenly stop?
[18:51] <k1l> ubuntu got the adobe flashplugin installer. no need for that pepperflash stuff
[18:51] <BluesKaj> basil1x, did you update and upgrade your packages ?
[18:52] <k1l> user31241: no there is no gui ppa manager.
[18:52] <user31241> k1l: adobe flashplugin installer pulls NPAPI flash, which was a lot outdated, but only refreshed recently - and is buggy. PPAPI works and worked like charm.
[18:52] <Squarism> what is the easiest/thinest web proxy you can have to just redirect 80 and 443 to other ports?
[18:53] <basil1x> Not for a few days, Bl
[18:53] <basil1x> Not for a few days, BluesKaj
[18:54] <basil1x> NVM... going to up to 16.10 and see if that sorts it.  Was going to do anyway, so might as well be now.
[18:56] <BluesKaj> basil1x, http://askubuntu.com/questions/836239/ubuntu-16-04-doesnt-seem-to-see-my-gtx-1060-gpu
[18:56] <blakkheim> did the recent kernel update break sound for anyone else?
[19:00] <craptalk> i downloaded a program, and i added the program to my path env, but how can i make a command to launch its program without having go to it its folder and execute by full pathname?
[19:01] <craptalk> i put my program folder on /usr/bin
[19:01] <craptalk> i added new path on my /etc/environment
[19:01] <bekks> craptalk: And did you source that file after changing it?
[19:01] <k1l> craptalk: user programs can be put into ~/bin
[19:01] <basil1x> BluesKaj, I'm hoping 16.10 will fix it. «fingers crossed»  If not, I'll use the drivers from the nvidia website.  Not ideal, but tired of futzing with it.
[19:02] <k1l> craptalk: and to make it work you need to source the .bashrc or relogin
[19:02] <craptalk> so can you tell me the step by step?
[19:02] <craptalk> am i missing something?
[19:02] <bekks> craptalk: Log out completely, log back in, done.
[19:02] <craptalk> so i should just move the dir to ~/bin?
[19:02] <bekks> craptalk: No.
[19:02] <bekks> craptalk: < bekks> craptalk: Log out completely, log back in, done.
[19:03] <craptalk> bekks: lets say i did what you asked, but how can i customize the command to lauch it?
[19:03] <bekks> craptalk: Lets say you do what I say first.
[19:03] <Squarism> i want to install nginx (and run it as root ofocurse) "the right" way just to have it to proxy an web app. How should one go about?
[19:04] <xro> Hi, is there a packaged mindmap soft in ubuntu 16.10 ?
[19:06] <BluesKaj> basil1x, the nvidia site drivers will break your system on the next kernel upgrade
[19:06] <k1l> xro: do you mean something like "dia"?
[19:06] <xro> like xmind
[19:07] <bekks> xro: There is a linux variant for xmind.
[19:07] <xro> yes, but i'm a bit lazy... i downloaded it and it complains about eclipse plugin
[19:08] <pavlos> Squarism, steps 1,2,5 ... https://www.linuxbabe.com/linux-server/install-nginx-mariadb-php7-lemp-stack-ubuntu-16-04-lts
[19:08] <k1l> dia, freemind, freeplane, vym, ...
[19:08] <xro> packaged ?
[19:09] <k1l> xro: i named packagenames.
[19:11] <basil1x> BluesKaj, I'll deal with that then.  Remove them if I have to.
[19:11] <freakyy> hi all. how do i just install the kde graphical environment (not the bootup screens, other display manager etc. i just wann ahve kde as an addition for selection in the gdm
[19:11] <xro> apt-cache pkgnames | grep freemind   ---> nothing
[19:12] <BluesKaj> the url i posted above should help you install the correct driver, basil1x
[19:12] <freakyy> try apt-cache search freemind
[19:12] <freakyy> oh well nothign aswell ;P
[19:12] <xro> yes, i always use grep. i know
[19:13] <bekks> Freemind isnt available using Ubuntu repos anymore. They still have a linux version.
[19:15] <k1l> xro: oh, freemind is gone since 16.04
[19:15] <xro> so, a similar mindmap tool packaged ?
[19:16] <k1l> xro: i named more than one package. did you look at them?
[19:17] <JJ_298034> Any tips for setting up multitouch on synclient? My google-fu is weak.
[19:17] <JJ_298034> Is it just to install touchegg and hey presto?
[19:17] <xro> i'll try vym (looks acceptable)
[19:20] <JJ_298034> I tried having a look at Geis for capabilities, which says device touches=2 but I know thats wrong by successfully setting "synclient TapButton2=2" and "synclient TapButton3=3" for three finger taps
[19:24] <freakyy> hi all. how do i switch the default display manager?
[19:24] <bekks> freakyy: By installing a second one, disabling the default, and enabling the second one.
[19:25] <freakyy> no i mean the commandline way
[19:25] <JJ_298034> rebooting to see if my changes gave me multitouch.
[19:25] <freakyy> like dpkg-reconfigure
[19:25] <bekks> freakyy: That IS the commandline way...
[19:25] <freakyy> i have 3 display manager installed
[19:25] <freakyy> i dont need to install any other display manager
[19:25] <freakyy> what i wanna do is get this dialog i get when installing another display manager
[19:25] <bekks> freakyy: So disable the unwanted one and enable the wanted one.
[19:25] <freakyy> thats what i wanna do but using the dialog i get from dpkg
[19:25] <freakyy> when its configuring a new display manager
[19:26] <w9qbj> freakyy, I install with sudo apt install   Then logout/login and select it there
[19:26] <k1l> freakyy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[19:26] <freakyy> k1l: ok thx :D
[19:26] <dannyLopez> Hi, anybody use Wildfly?
[19:35] <alf_> ,
[19:37] <kadiro> Hello, I have a big problem after removing the kernel 4.4.0-{63..64} with mistakes, and before rebooting i reinstalled both but after rebooting i have another issues, no gui ( lightdm crashing ) and no internet ( ifconfig gives lo only ) after editing /etc/network/interfaces ( uncomment auto eth0 and next line about it ) nothing also, i used nmcli also same thing, my question how to solve this?
[19:37] <floogy> Hi, how can I tell what kind of ram I got installed?
[19:37] <bekks> floogy: Look at the label on the RAM.
[19:37] <jgcampbell300> i am trying to setup pureftp on ubuntu server and it is telling me to edit fstab to UUID=3dc3b58d-97e5-497b-8254-a913fdfc5408 / ext4 errors=remount-ro,usrjquota=quota.user,grpjquota=quota.group,jqfmt=vfsv0 0 1 (not my id) anways i have seprate / /home /var /etc dirs ... should i be changing my /home or the / folder with those options ?
[19:38] <k1l> floogy: lshw
[19:38] <OerHeks>  “sudo dmidecode --type 17”
[19:39] <floogy> I mean the e.g. hardware id of the single banks
[19:40] <floogy> OerHeks, thank you!
[19:45] <Mixxit> can i ask for help for ubuntu on windows here
[19:45] <k1l> !ubuwin | Mixxit
[19:45] <Mixxit> thank you
[19:46] <Mixxit> its a bit quiet in there doh
[19:47] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[19:47] <BluesKaj> should be called ubuntu apps on windows
[19:48] <OnkelTem> What player you'd recommend to try out to play HD video with 60 fps?
[19:48] <OnkelTem> I tried VLC - output is laggy. Mplayer just hangs
[19:48] <BluesKaj> mpv perhaps
[19:48] <BluesKaj> got ffmpeg
[19:49] <nicomachus> mpv so good & nice yes yes yes
[19:58] <zorrothecat> How do I tell nvidia-settings/elementaryOS desktop settings....to keep my ViewPortOut in the NVIDIA X Server Settings ?? see link (http://imgur.com/a/TFrYv)
[19:58] <zorrothecat> not kept after reboot
[19:58] <zorrothecat> even if saved to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:59] <k1l> !elementory | zorrothecat
[19:59] <k1l> !elementary | zorrothecat
[20:00] <zorrothecat> well i guess the same thing happens in ubuntu ?
[20:00] <zorrothecat> nevermind...
[20:01] <zorrothecat> im asking here because #elementary #xorg #nvidia channels are DEAD
[20:01] <zorrothecat> i just wanna save my file
[20:01] <zorrothecat> i mean my config file
[20:02] <zorrothecat> i miss xf86config
[20:02] <zorrothecat> those were the days i guess...
[20:02] <chrisss123456> is there a simple way to use a midi keyboard on ubuntu? i'm having to go through so many steps and troubleshooting just to get a crappy, high-droprate, 90s piano sound that's still resource intensive.
[20:03] <zorrothecat> If I were you I would find the KORG M1 VST and use a Linux/Wine(VST) bridge
[20:03] <zorrothecat> the M1 piano is the best cheezy 90s house piano
[20:03] <ojatko> hello community! I am trying to open an encrypted home folder. when I am asked MOUNT passphrase, I am entering the 32-char phrase that was displayed to me in terminal. then I get 'success' message with the tmp/path shown. but on this path I find the home folder still encrypted.
[20:03] <k1l> zorrothecat: that OS handles things differently and because of that ask them for support. if their support channel is dead use their forum or wherever they offer support.
[20:04] <ojatko> I also discovered that I get 'success' message no matter what I enter as password!
[20:06] <EriC^^> ojatko: try the login password as thr password
[20:09] <j4f-shredder> Hey, my ubuntu 16.10 is freezing on login
[20:09] <OnkelTem> BluesKaj: thanks, gonna try it
[20:10] <j4f-shredder> The only thing I did was an autoclean
[20:10] <j4f-shredder> and then on reboot
[20:10] <j4f-shredder> I couldn't access
[20:10] <j4f-shredder> it's frozen
[20:10] <EriC^^> j4f-shredder: does th e guest account work?
[20:10] <j4f-shredder> nono, I can't do anything
[20:10] <j4f-shredder> it freezes 1 second after showing the login screen
[20:10] <k1l> can you boot an older kernel on grub?
[20:10] <j4f-shredder> I tried to use the boot-repair-disk
[20:10] <EriC^^> without even logging in?
[20:10] <EriC^^> entering the password
[20:11] <j4f-shredder> and I rebooted but it still freezes
[20:11] <ojatko> Eric^^ I was about to try it, but I have another strange thing happening within the last hour. I am on a live dvd and for the second time the screen went black (with backlight) for about 30 seconds, and then the computer instantly shut down. what can be happening? I haven't had this with my HDD..could this be a faulty dvd install?
[20:11] <j4f-shredder> how do I do that?
[20:11] <EriC^^> ojatko: possibly
[20:11] <ojatko> oh goodness
[20:12] <j4f-shredder> I got an invalid enviroment block before doing this
[20:12] <EriC^^> ojatko: can you use the actual install?
[20:12] <j4f-shredder> before getting my screen fronzen
[20:12] <ioria> j4f-shredder, can you login in console ?
[20:12] <j4f-shredder> how do I even do that?
[20:12] <ioria> j4f-shredder, ctrl+alt+f1 (or f2)
[20:13] <j4f-shredder> but when? cause as soon as the login scren appears the pc hangs
[20:13] <ojatko> Eric^^ I was able to use the HDD without this ever having occured
[20:13] <j4f-shredder> I can write for 1 second
[20:13] <j4f-shredder> and then it freezes
[20:13] <ojatko> Eric^^ ah sorry, got it
[20:13] <j4f-shredder> I have a dual boot with windoes 7
[20:13] <ojatko> yes, the install was fine
[20:13] <j4f-shredder> UEFI mode
[20:14] <j4f-shredder> I've been like this for 4 months
[20:14] <j4f-shredder> but it failed today suddenly
[20:14] <ioria> j4f-shredder, you don't write anything , it'a a keys sequence
[20:14] <j4f-shredder> I will be back and try that
[20:14] <j4f-shredder> if that screen doesn't appear what do I do?
[20:15] <ojatko> EriC^^ and in my first run of the dvd  I was able to use it for a way longer while without this happening
[20:15] <ioria> j4f-shredder, press shift (or ESC) and try another kernel from GRUB
[20:15] <ojatko> maybe the programs that I installed cause this?
[20:15] <ojatko> I use the live dvd for system checks
[20:15] <j4f-shredder> on advanced options?
[20:15] <EriC^^> ojatko: maybe, try running the dvd integrity check
[20:15] <ioria> ojatko, from live you can use  sudo ecryptfs-recover-private
[20:16] <ioria> j4f-shredder, yes
[20:16] <hgag> connect
[20:17] <hgag> ahmed
[20:17] <ojatko> ioria, yes, that was the original problem. the command didnt decrypt the home folder when I entered correct mount password
[20:17] <ojatko> but now I need to get a working live dvd, or get the live dvd working :)
[20:17] <ioria> ojatko,  you said mounted something in /tmp ?
[20:18] <ojatko> ioria, yes
[20:18] <ioria> ojatko,  what ?
[20:18] <hgag> zero cool
[20:19] <ojatko> Eric^^ I presume I check the dvd with the respective option at ubuntu start screen?
[20:19] <ojatko> ioria, the path that I entered with the command
[20:20] <EriC^^> ojatko: yes
[20:20] <ioria> ojatko,  path does not mount ....
[20:20] <EriC^^> it's available in legacy mode only iirc
[20:21] <ojatko> I had to enter the path after ecryptfs command, because without command it returend that typical error with 'permission denied' mentioning a loop of two paths (sorry, I dont have the paste of the error)..so I added the path as suggested in an online post
[20:21] <ojatko> returned*
[20:21] <hgag> no
[20:21] <ojatko> the path of the home folder to be decrypted
[20:22] <J4f-shredder> Im on command line with another kernel
[20:22] <J4f-shredder> What do I do now?
[20:22] <EriC^^> ojatko: try with the login password
[20:22] <ioria> ojatko,  ok, can you paste ls -al /tmp  ?
[20:22] <ojatko> EriC^^ once I get back on live system again, I will do it!
[20:23] <EriC^^> J4f-shredder: try starting lightdm again
[20:23] <J4f-shredder> Whats that?
[20:23] <EriC^^> J4f-shredder: the login manager, sudo systemctl restart lightdm and try logging in
[20:23] <J4f-shredder> IM A noob in a blackscreen
[20:24] <J4f-shredder> It shows the screen for a sec and closes
[20:24] <ioria> j4f-shredder, sudo lshw -c Video | grep driver
[20:24] <disi> `sudo apt-get update` recently stopped working for me on Precise with this error: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/rwky/redis/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[20:24] <J4f-shredder> It says IO charset iso8859-1 not found
[20:25] <disi> can anyone shed some light on what is going on?
[20:25] <J4f-shredder> When i restart with light
[20:25] <EriC^^> disi: sounds like the ppa is down
[20:25] <kadiro> Hello, I have a big problem after removing the kernel 4.4.0-{63..64} with mistakes, and before rebooting i reinstalled both but after rebooting i have another issues, no gui ( lightdm crashing ) and no internet ( ifconfig gives lo only ) after editing /etc/network/interfaces ( uncomment auto eth0 and next line about it ) nothing also, i used nmcli also same thing, my question how to solve this?
[20:25] <ojatko> EriC^^ I select 'check disk for defects' but it goes on to boot ubuntu
[20:25] <ojatko> oh no sorry
[20:26] <ojatko> now the message showed, that it's checking
[20:26] <disi> EriC^^: is that not a default source?
[20:26] <geirha> kadiro: try installing the ubuntu-desktop package
[20:26] <EriC^^> disi: no it's a launchpad ppa
[20:26] <kadiro> geirha, yeah, but the problem how without internet
[20:27] <disi> EriC^^: interesting, ok thanks... i wonder why this is even in the sources. im just trying to use a genric ubuntu host on Travis CI
[20:27] <J4f-shredder> When I throw sudo lshw -c Video grep drover it says configuration:driver =i915 latency=0
[20:28] <ioria> j4f-shredder, what ubuntu is that ?
[20:28] <EriC^^> disi: looks like an old ppa, not just precise is gone
[20:28] <J4f-shredder> 16.10
[20:28] <ioria> j4f-shredder, uname -r
[20:28] <geirha> kadiro: ah, does ''ip addr show'' or ''ifconfig -a'' mention the interface at all?
[20:29] <J4f-shredder> 4.8.0-37-generic0
[20:29] <J4f-shredder> Generic i meant witjout the 0
[20:29] <kadiro> geirha, i tried the last one ( ifconfig -a ) but only 'lo' interface showing up
[20:29] <ioria> j4f-shredder,  try sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[20:30] <geirha> kadiro: Hm. Maybe you're missing the modules
[20:30] <J4f-shredder> Take into account that I changed kernel on advanced settings like you said
[20:30] <J4f-shredder> Its not the main kernel
[20:30] <EriC^^> disi: try dpkg -l | awk '$1 == "ii" {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | grep -C10 launchpad
[20:30] <ioria> j4f-shredder,  it's ok
[20:30] <geirha> kadiro: See if /var/cache/apt/archives/ has any packages
[20:30] <kadiro> geirha, that make sense, i guess when i removed the kernel, it removed the headers too
[20:30] <EriC^^> disi: it should give a rough idea of packages from that ppa
[20:31] <J4f-shredder> It failed resolving
[20:31] <kadiro> geirha, ok
[20:31] <ioria> j4f-shredder,  ping www.google.com
[20:31] <J4f-shredder> Im using a wifi card
[20:31] <J4f-shredder> Not a connector
[20:32] <kadiro> geirha, about 104 deb files
[20:32] <ioria> j4f-shredder,  ping www.google.com
[20:32] <J4f-shredder> Temporary failure in name resolution
[20:32] <geirha> kadiro: nice, look for linux-image-extra*deb
[20:32] <ioria> j4f-shredder,  did you reboot on recovery mode ?
[20:32] <geirha> you can manually install with ''sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb''
[20:33] <J4f-shredder> Possibly
[20:33] <J4f-shredder> I rebooted
[20:33] <ioria> j4f-shredder,  reboot normally
[20:33] <J4f-shredder> Now im in advanced settings
[20:33] <kadiro> geirha, yes 3 extra, one for 62, one for 63 and the last for 64
[20:33] <J4f-shredder> I have a generic generic upstart and generic recovery mode
[20:33] <ioria> j4f-shredder,  no, reboot normally, older kernel not working anyway
[20:33] <kadiro> geirha, thank you, i will reboot and try
[20:34] <ojatko> EriC^^ no errors found on dvd. could it then be the laptop's dvd player?
[20:34] <ioria> j4f-shredder,  then open a console
[20:34] <J4f-shredder> I did
[20:34] <J4f-shredder> But its frozen
[20:34] <J4f-shredder> Keyboard nor mouse are responding
[20:35] <ioria> j4f-shredder,  the console is frozen ?
[20:35] <J4f-shredder> Im stucked on the ubuntu login screen
[20:35] <J4f-shredder> I cant switch to console
[20:35] <EriC^^> ojatko: maybe, if you have enough ram you could add "toram" to the grub kernel parameters so it loads it all to ram
[20:35] <disi> EriC^^: ty, doesnt look like anything i care baout in there
[20:35] <ioria> j4f-shredder,  wait a bit
[20:35] <EriC^^> disi: ok, np
[20:36] <J4f-shredder> The lights on the keyboard are dead as well and the lights on the mouse are on
[20:36] <J4f-shredder> But I cant see the cursor
[20:36] <ojatko> it already was behaving strange, like it started to spin the dvd, but stopped shortly after, so the computer went on to boot the HDD..this happened multiple times..whether this relates to the above shutdowns
[20:37] <ioria> j4f-shredder,  wait for the login screen
[20:37] <azizLIGHT> i got too many kernels in /boot. to remove them, is it correct that i gotta purge packages like linux-image-3.13.0-85-generic and then also this package: linux-headers-3.13.0-85 and linux-headers-3.13.0-85-generic also? anything else?
[20:37] <J4f-shredder> Hey I removed the wifi card
[20:37] <J4f-shredder> And rebooted and now I can access
[20:37] <J4f-shredder> The wifi card was freezing the screen
[20:37] <ioria> j4f-shredder,  you removed the wifi card ?
[20:38] <J4f-shredder> Its a tew-624ub
[20:38] <J4f-shredder> Its a pendrive wifi card
[20:38] <ioria> j4f-shredder,  an adapter, then
[20:38] <J4f-shredder> Trendnet tew 624-ub
[20:38] <J4f-shredder> Yes
[20:39] <ioria> j4f-shredder,  can you login now ?
[20:39] <J4f-shredder> Yeah, I reconnected that and it freezes the computer
[20:39] <ioria> j4f-shredder,  can you paste dmesg | tail ?
[20:40] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: Too full for ' sudo apt autoremove ' to operate ? show in a pastebin ' df -h ; df -i ; dpkg -l | grep linux- ' . See what we can do .
[20:41] <colematt> Looking for alternate ways to get the kernel source. Had been following the BuildYourOwnKernel tutorial on wiki.ubuntu.com, when using the apt-get method for 3.13.0-108-generic, I get two errors. 1) E: Failed to fetch (...)linux_3.13.0-108.155.dsc 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.26 80] and 2) E: Failed to fetch (...)linux_3.13.0-108.155.diff.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.23 80]. Not sure how to proceed.
[20:42] <colematt> Also not sure the git method on BuildYourOwnKernel will work since I have a specific kernel version, not a codename (although I'm on 14.04 LTS Trusty)
[20:43] <J4f-shredder> Rtl8192cu: loading firmware rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw_TMSC.bin registered new interface driver rtl8192cu rehisyered new interface rtl8xxxu
[20:43] <ioria> !paste | J4f-shredder
[20:43] <nacc> colematt: why do you need a now out-of-date kernels' source?
[20:43] <nacc> colematt: trusty is up to 3.13.0.110.118 i mean
[20:44] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24048709/
[20:44] <azizLIGHT> uname -r
[20:45] <azizLIGHT> 3.13.0-101-generic
[20:45] <Bashing-om> colematt: Maube find the image and headers you want here : http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ ?
[20:45] <colematt> @nacc: I am not partial to the kernel version, but I am trying to follow along on the tutorial, and that's what the instructions had. This is my first time modifying the kernel.
[20:46] <ApafusNode>  /server irc.netsplit.de
[20:46] <nacc> colematt: from using what? `apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)` ?
[20:46] <ApafusNode> Cricky.
[20:47] <colematt> Long story short, I need to modify it so that I can add EXPORT_SYMBOL(do_execve) to exec.c ... I need that for a kprobe I'm writing.
[20:47] <colematt> @nacc: yes, that was the command I used.
[20:47] <nacc> colematt: you're system is not running a current kernel then :/
[20:47] <Guest39470> hey
[20:47] <Guest72013> hi
[20:47] <aruns> Hi, has anyone compiled SFML from scratch via CMake?
[20:47] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: Humm .. " 1.6G  90% / " suggest you have the operating room . what results ' sudo apt autoremove ' ?
[20:47] <nacc> colematt: *first* apt update; apt upgrade; boot to the current supported kernel and then proceed.
[20:48] <aruns> Looking at the dependencies needed to set up the build toolchain, and one of the dependencies listed is vorbis, checking apt-cache shows a package called vorbis-tools.
[20:48] <aruns> Not sure if this is the right package to install?
[20:48] <KingsQuest> don't freestyle much but i write em as such :D
[20:48] <aruns> This is for version 2.4 of SFML.
[20:48] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: when i did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade, i got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24048731/ it lists the package for autoremove
[20:48] <aruns> And I am on Ubuntu 16.04.
[20:49] <colematt> @nacc: my concern is that current kernel is 4.x - all references I have for writing kprobes are for 3.x. Will your recommendation take me to a 4.x kernel?
[20:49] <nacc> colematt: no
[20:49] <nacc> colematt: i think you are confused about which kernel is where
[20:49] <ioria> !info libsfml-dev
[20:49] <colematt> @nacc: there's a good chance of that.
[20:49] <KingsQuest> which kernel ?
[20:49] <debkad> geirha: thank you very much, the problem was about the extra image :)
[20:50] <KingsQuest> i getting criminals out of jail too
[20:50] <nacc> colematt: yes, upstream kernel (as well as x, y, z) are 4.x based
[20:50] <nacc> colematt: but trusty has several kernels available
[20:50] <coffeeguy> oh wow linux-signed-image update
[20:50] <colematt> What would be a good read so I can understand this better?
[20:50] <nitin21> Hi! I am on ubuntu 14.04 and I am trying to install the package 'crda'. But I get this message:
[20:50] <nitin21> "Package crda is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source  E: Package 'crda' has no installation candidate"
[20:50] <KingsQuest> ich bein ein lieuber
[20:50] <nacc> colematt: 3.13.0 based is the 14.04/14.04.1 version; there is also the HWE stack from 16.04 which would be 4.4 based (iirc)
[20:50] <nitin21> How do I find which source to add for this package?
[20:50] <nacc> KingsQuest: please stop
[20:50] <nitin21> I can see it here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/net/crda
[20:50] <ioria> aruns, on yakkety you have 2.4
[20:51] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: should i remove all these packages. why so many packages in autoremove??
[20:51] <nacc> nitin21: um, crda is in main in all releases currently, what version of ubuntu?
[20:51] <KingsQuest> i'm a supporter of ubuntu 16.04 :D
[20:51] <nitin21> nacc, Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS Release:	14.04 Codename:	trusty
[20:52] <nacc> nitin21: please pastebin `apt-cache policy crda`
[20:52] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: Looks to be a lot of obsolete 32 bit packags . Me, I would "do it" . I do have faith in the system and what autoremov will clean out . There is a faint possibility of breakage but if so we fix later .
[20:52] <j4f-shredder__> ioria that is the output https://codeshare.io/2K8xvX
[20:52] <nacc> nitin21: also note, that 14.04.4 is no longer supported, you should be fully updated to 14.04.5 by now
[20:52] <aruns> ioria: Ah OK, so I can always install the official package if I want, just a bit of wary of using APT at times as some of the packages are pretty dated.
[20:52] <j4f-shredder__> I have one second to see the logs cause it freezes after connect
[20:52] <j4f-shredder__> and I have to reboot
[20:53] <KingsQuest> he stole from amiga ?
[20:53] <j4f-shredder__> I had to type that by hand
[20:53] <ioria> aruns, maybe a yakkety vm...
[20:53] <nitin21> yeah I should :(. Working on some legacy box
[20:53] <nitin21> nacc, here's the paste: http://pastebin.com/eQ4ZSUe0
[20:53] <ojatko> EriC^^ login password didnt open it, either. in fact, as I said above, I can enter any gibberish as password, and it returns me 'success! mounted at /tmp/somepath' ?!
[20:53] <aruns> ioria: Oh sorry, you meant 16.10, assumed you meant 15.x :P
[20:53] <geirha> debkad: Great :)
[20:53] <ioria> !info libsfml-dev | aruns
[20:54] <nacc> aruns: please pastebin `apt update` output
[20:54] <nacc> aruns: sorry
[20:54] <EriC^^> ojatko: hmm
[20:54] <nacc> nitin21: please pastebin `apt-get update` output
[20:54] <aruns> nacc: :P
[20:54] <nitin21> okay, also I am actually trying to install "linux-image-extra-3.13.0-88-generic" which requires crda
[20:54] <nacc> nitin21: uh
[20:55] <KingsQuest> msg #ubunt-discuss theater under the stars.  dinner for two.  theater,music books, and bookstop music no where on the internet even movies, galleria mall iceskatin
[20:55] <nacc> nitin21: why are you trying to install that kernel??
[20:55] <aruns> ioria: Thanks. I have a question that should me greatly - I believe there is a command for this with apt-get, but how can I check what a package would actually install?
[20:55] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: i did autoremove, but there were no kernels removed
[20:55] <debkad> geirha: without your answer i was quiet to format and install from zero with all the config, it had to be a big pain hahaha, thanks again
[20:55] <j4f-shredder__> how do I remove the wifi adaptor drivers?? ioria that is the output https://codeshare.io/2K8xvX
[20:55] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: i still have tons of kernel in my /boot
[20:55] <j4f-shredder__> it seems there are two drivers
[20:55] <j4f-shredder__> or something
[20:55] <j4f-shredder__> or I could even settle with doing a downgrade, I dont care at this point
[20:55] <j4f-shredder__> this is too unstable
[20:56] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24048775/
[20:56] <ioria> aruns,  apt-cache policy libsfml-dev
[20:56] <aruns> ioria: Ah, the -s flag looks like it would work also.
[20:56] <nitin21> nacc, I am trying to install kernel because docker needs it. Let me find where docker's package does that. Meanwhile pastebin: http://pastebin.com/eig1hFf7
[20:57] <nacc> nitin21: that seems like nonsense. So because docker needs something, you'll make your machine vulnerable to security issues?
[20:57] <nitin21> nacc, https://github.com/garethr/garethr-docker/blob/master/manifests/install.pp#L32
[20:57] <nitin21> ha
[20:57] <j4f-shredder__> could someone please tell me how to remove some drivers?? Im totally lost
[20:57] <j4f-shredder__> ioria that is the output https://codeshare.io/2K8xvX
[20:57] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: Then the package manager is broke on old kernels .. maybe so old back that autoremove does not apply ? ... let's get rid of the clutter so I see the tree in the forrest .
[20:58] <nacc> nitin21: so first, you need to update your system
[20:58] <nacc> nitin21: to the current 14.04
[20:58] <nacc> nitin21: full stop. anyting else is unsupported
[20:59] <nitin21> nacc, okay. I will work on that :)
[20:59] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: Now let’s remove all the packages marked as rc ( removed but config files remain): dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge
[20:59] <ojatko> EriC^^ it's ok, I will try something else to do what I wanted with the home folder. thank you so much!
[20:59] <nitin21> thanks nacc!
[20:59] <nacc> nitin21: that will probably fix the other things. You are also not using any (or hardly any) actual ubuntu repositories, so it's hard for me to tell what is correct
[20:59] <EriC^^> ojatko: ok, no problem
[20:59] <nitin21> yeah, we limit the repositories
[21:00] <nitin21> I can add some if I need them
[21:00] <nacc> nitin21: you are *only* running a kernel.org mirror of trusty-updates. I have no idea where your trusty release is, but that's why you can't install crda.
[21:00] <nacc> nitin21: you are so far from running ubuntu that it's not supportable here
[21:00] <j4f-shredder__> nitin21 please, I need your help, I have to work and my computer freezes when I plug the wifi adaptor . https://codeshare.io/2K8xvX that is what I get
[21:00] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: i dunno if i want to do that one. i want to keep configs
[21:00] <j4f-shredder__> and then the computer freezes
[21:01] <nitin21> nacc, oh okay, yeah. I was just working on some legacy system and I am not expert on this. Kinda stuck but maybe updating ubuntu might be the required step
[21:01] <nacc> nitin21: seriously, it's not ubuntu the way it is configured now.
[21:01] <nacc> nitin21: i don't know what it is
[21:01] <j4f-shredder__> Should I go back to windows and forget about ubuntu? if everyday I will have driver problems I might stick with the easy stuff, this is way over my head and too unstable
[21:02] <nitin21> I see
[21:03] <genii> j4f-shredder__: Alternately, get a better adapter that's not Broadcom based
[21:03] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: Oh but the faith of a musstard seed . will only remove files that no longer serve any purpose as the packages have been removed .
[21:04] <j4f-shredder__> This adapter worked for a year and ahalf and it works on windows without any problem
[21:04] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: yes but i wanna keep the configs i may install those packages again
[21:04] <j4f-shredder__> that is not the problem
[21:04] <j4f-shredder__> the problem is that with a new update it seems that it installed two drivers or something
[21:04] <j4f-shredder__> https://codeshare.io/2K8xvX
[21:04] <j4f-shredder__> check
[21:05] <j4f-shredder__> how can I remove everything
[21:05] <j4f-shredder__> from the wifi card
[21:05] <j4f-shredder__> and start from scratch
[21:05] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: for example, i want to keep the nvidia stuff, glances, nautilius-pushbullet,
[21:05] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24048829/
[21:05] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: K, then I see what I can do through all the clutter . bear with me while I look . and we sic 'dpkg' on the old kernels.
[21:06] <genii> j4f-shredder__: The problem is that the adapter manufacturer has designed their hardware with only Windows in mind for it to operate under, without providing information to the linux device driver authors to make a proper driver for it.
[21:06] <j4f-shredder__> but why yesterday it worked
[21:07] <j4f-shredder__> and now it isn't?
[21:07] <j4f-shredder__> I havent done any dist upgrade
[21:07] <j4f-shredder__> or anything
[21:07] <j4f-shredder__> I've used it for one year and a half on ubuntu
[21:07] <j4f-shredder__> so that cannot be the problem
[21:07] <j4f-shredder__> How do I uninstall every wifi adapter driver?
[21:07] <j4f-shredder__> that would be more helpful to know
[21:08] <j4f-shredder__> I might try that
[21:09] <j4f-shredder__> please, I just need to know that
[21:09] <j4f-shredder__> how to uninstall all drivers
[21:09] <j4f-shredder__> the name of the firmware is rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw_TMSC.bin
[21:10] <j4f-shredder__> driver name rtl8192cu
[21:10] <genii> j4f-shredder__: All drivers are part of each kernel package. The way to prevent a driver from being used is to blacklist it instead
[21:10] <genii> !blacklist
[21:10] <j4f-shredder__> but if I black list it then will it reinstall it when plugged?
[21:10] <genii> j4f-shredder__: No
[21:11] <j4f-shredder__> so that wont do any good
[21:11] <j4f-shredder__> I just need to start from scratch
[21:11] <genii> j4f-shredder__: Blacklisting a driver means it will never be used.
[21:11] <j4f-shredder__> I just need to discard what's installed and then let the SO install it again when plugged
[21:11] <j4f-shredder__> is there any way to discard all updates from the last 24 hours?
[21:11] <j4f-shredder__> I did an autoclean command
[21:12] <j4f-shredder__> and after that the problems started
[21:12] <j4f-shredder__> it was a couple of hours ago
[21:12] <genii> j4f-shredder__: Try instead booting to a previous kernel from GRUB and see if the problem persists
[21:12] <e__> HEY
[21:12] <MarcGuay> Hi folks.  Is there a way to make ubuntu scream at me when disk space is low?
[21:12] <j4f-shredder__> I did that but it the so wont start
[21:13] <j4f-shredder__> it just shows a black screen
[21:13] <j4f-shredder__> a console the previous kernel
[21:13] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: Should not be too tough to remove the old kernels, . But dinner is on the table . I be back soonest .
[21:13] <azizLIGHT> ok :)
[21:14] <j4f-shredder__> Do you know anything more stable than ubuntu? is debian better?
[21:14] <j4f-shredder__> and with better support?
[21:16] <genii> j4f-shredder__: Each kernel has it's own drivers which are in the filesystem usually somewhere like /lib/modules/<kernel-version-here>/kernel/drivers  area. When you plug something in, it doesn't go out somewhere on the internet or so to find a driver. It just uses the one in that area . If you delete the one it's using, then no driver at all will be used
[21:17] <j4f-shredder__> I will have to reinstall ubuntu 16.04 then
[21:17] <j4f-shredder__> I dont want to waste more time on this
[21:17] <genii> j4f-shredder__: Ubuntu uses the same drivers that Debian does.
[21:17] <j4f-shredder__> Look, I used ubuntu for a year and a half and only today failed
[21:18] <j4f-shredder__> with this same card
[21:18] <j4f-shredder__> so the driver exists
[21:19] <genii> j4f-shredder__: Odds are the driver is the same as before. But the kernel changed in some way now that makes the driver no longer work. This is why I already suggested to boot to a previous kernel.
[21:19] <j4f-shredder__> but I only have 2 kernerls
[21:19]  * genii wanders off to do something more productive
[21:19] <j4f-shredder__> listed
[21:19] <j4f-shredder__> on the advanced options in grub
[21:19] <j4f-shredder__> each one with 3 options
[21:21] <j4f-shredder__> how can I know which was the previous kernel
[21:21] <j4f-shredder__> and how can I set it as default?
[21:21] <colematt> @nacc: ok, so I finished apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. You told me to "boot to the current supported kernel". Is this as straightforward as rebooting the system, or do I need to do something special?
[21:24] <nacc> colematt: yeah, jsut reboot to the latest kernel installed (i think it should be -110-118 or so)
[21:26] <j4f-shredder__> nacc
[21:26] <j4f-shredder__> please
[21:26] <j4f-shredder__> tell me how to set a previous kernel as the default
[21:27] <j4f-shredder__> on the grub advanced config
[21:27] <weaksauce> what would cause a bind error when starting it that user 'bind' not found? the user bind is already created
[21:29] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: you said you had two kernels, boot the older one
[21:29] <j4f-shredder__> on the menu yes
[21:29] <j4f-shredder__> but I have 37 and 38
[21:29] <j4f-shredder__> when I enter the SO
[21:29] <j4f-shredder__> and check for kernels it shows more
[21:29] <j4f-shredder__> 32, 35, 37, 38
[21:30] <j4f-shredder__> ufif I try to boot the older kernel that is listed in grub
[21:30] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: SO? which kernel are you on now?
[21:30] <j4f-shredder__> 37
[21:30] <j4f-shredder__> I get to a screen
[21:30] <j4f-shredder__> its supossed to be on 4.8.0.38
[21:30] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: does 38 work?
[21:30] <j4f-shredder__> and the only other option is 4.8.0.37
[21:32] <j4f-shredder__> it works but as soon as I plug the wifi card
[21:32] <j4f-shredder__> it fails
[21:32] <j4f-shredder__> if I run the 37
[21:32] <j4f-shredder__> I get redirected to the emergency mode
[21:32] <j4f-shredder__> even if I dont select the emergency mode option
[21:33] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: is this 16.10?
[21:34] <j4f-shredder__> yes
[21:34] <j4f-shredder__> I dont know if this kernel
[21:34] <j4f-shredder__> Im just showing you the two listed
[21:34] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: even those are out of date already (16.10 is at 4.8.0.39 now)
[21:36] <j4f-shredder__> why the 16.10 kernels are not listed
[21:36] <j4f-shredder__> there?
[21:36] <j4f-shredder__> I think I will just reinstall everything, its the 3rd time I have to reinstall from scratch in 6 moths
[21:36] <j4f-shredder__> I hate this so
[21:36] <j4f-shredder__> I might try redhat or some other distro
[21:37] <k1l> that is not motivating helpers in here if you say that constantly
[21:37] <dannyLpz> I install Dropbox in XFCE, and now, when open "nautilus" showme the path ralvarez713@gmail.com
[21:37] <dannyLpz> No this email, jajaja
[21:38] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: you are just on an older 16.10 kernel
[21:38] <j4f-shredder__> it's really frustrating, I dont want to offend anyone but everytime there's a probem noone knows the answer
[21:38] <k1l> dannyLpz: you have new mail :)
[21:38] <dannyLpz> I install Dropbox in XFCE, and now, when open "nautilus" showme the path: $HOME/.dropbox-work
[21:38] <j4f-shredder__> but why is it booting on emergency mode
[21:38] <OerHeks> rtl8192cu is your culprit, how did you install the driver?
[21:38] <dannyLpz> k1l: Is a test mail :O
[21:38] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: i don't know, i've not seen any logs to say
[21:38] <j4f-shredder__> https://codeshare.io/2K8xvX
[21:38] <j4f-shredder__> this is the reason
[21:38] <j4f-shredder__> of why the wifi is crushing the system
[21:39] <j4f-shredder__> but I dont know how to wipe the drivers and reinstalling them
[21:39] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: 'wifi is crushing the system'?
[21:39] <genii> j4f-shredder__: Consider: how much time are you willing to spend on figuring the problem out or trying various installs of different distributions? Multiply that by minimum wage. Then decide if it's less money or more money than just buying an adapter that will be known to work with both operating systems equally well.
[21:39] <OerHeks> jferguson, how did you install the driver?
[21:39] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: it seems like it doesn't get link
[21:39] <dannyLpz> Any way, can I change the path $HOME/.dropbox-work for the real $HOME?
[21:39] <OerHeks> err j4f-shredder__  ^^
[21:39] <k1l> dannyLpz: does the xfce use .desktop files? look if there is the wrong path
[21:39] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: and afaict, failing to get wireless link won't drop you to the emergency shell, unless you have network root
[21:40] <j4f-shredder__> this card has worked for a year and a half
[21:40] <j4f-shredder__> with ubuntu
[21:40] <j4f-shredder__> it failed a couple of hours ago
[21:40] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: did you reboot? did you change kernels?
[21:40] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: what do you mean "failed"?
[21:40] <j4f-shredder__> it freezes as soon as I plug the usb adapter
[21:40] <j4f-shredder__> it never happened before under ubuntu
[21:40] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: has it worked under that particular kernel before?
[21:41] <bekks> j4f-shredder__: Did you consider that device being broken?
[21:41] <j4f-shredder__> nono
[21:41] <j4f-shredder__> it works on windows
[21:41] <j4f-shredder__> I just tried
[21:41] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: i don't care about windows
[21:41] <j4f-shredder__> it works on mac
[21:41] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: both of those are proprietary OSes, which can pay vendors to be compatible
[21:41] <yobagme_> j4f-shredder__: What if you boot into an Ubuntu live USB and try the wifi device from there? What happens?
[21:42] <nacc> yobagme_: an excellent suggestion
[21:42] <j4f-shredder__> if it does work
[21:42] <j4f-shredder__> what should I do?
[21:42] <k1l> and chroot into the install and update that and sort that kernel mess
[21:42] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: what k1l said
[21:42] <j4f-shredder__> I dont know what that means
[21:42] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: use a current live usb of 16.10
[21:42] <j4f-shredder__> to be honest
[21:42] <j4f-shredder__> I need commands
[21:43] <yobagme_> Boot off the USB first and see if it works. At least verify if its working or not under that
[21:45] <j4f-shredder__> it will work for sure
[21:45] <j4f-shredder__> it was some kind of update that messed this up
[21:45] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: just do it, please.
[21:45] <darsparx> can anyone help me? I'm trying to use quassel on server and can't seem to connect on the external IP for it....
[21:45] <lerner> what do I have to add to a command so instead of following proxy instructions it connects directly to internet?
[21:45] <j4f-shredder__> I am
[21:45] <nacc> lerner: maybe specify no_proxy= ?
[21:46] <nacc> lerner: i'm not sure where that gets supported
[21:46] <TheM4st3r> Hi
[21:46] <nacc> lerner: it depends on how you're proxy is used though
[21:46] <TheM4st3r> BRBRBRBR
[21:47] <back> ciao
[21:47] <TheM4st3r> You're have a books about Python?
[21:48] <nacc> !ot | TheM4st3r
[21:48] <Pici> TheM4st3r: sounds like a question for #python
[21:48] <k1l> TheM4st3r: i guess #python knows about that
[21:48] <TheM4st3r> oK
[21:48] <TheM4st3r> #Python
[21:48] <TheM4st3r> lmfao
[21:48] <j4f-shredder__> in the future, can you avoid getting updates on the kernel?
[21:48] <j4f-shredder__> I would like to freeze the version
[21:49] <j4f-shredder__> I couldnt care less about the extra features, I just use it for minimal stuff
[21:49] <k1l> darsparx: if you are behind a router you need to forward the needed ports to that machine.
[21:49] <TheM4st3r> No.
[21:49] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: that is not necessarily recommended, e.g. you want security updates
[21:49] <j4f-shredder__> I dont care about security, I just need to be up and running
[21:49] <j4f-shredder__> I dont have anything important
[21:49] <k1l> j4f-shredder__: no, that doesnt make sense. there was something more wrong on your system.
[21:49] <darsparx> k1l: I don't think I am, the server is connected over a powerline adapter
[21:49] <j4f-shredder__> I cant lose one day of my life, I have to work
[21:50] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: then *why* are you running 16.10?
[21:50] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: stay on 16.04
[21:50] <j4f-shredder__> Maybe I will
[21:50] <TheM4st3r> You're a books about penetration tests? I'm curious for this.
[21:50] <yobagme_> Agree with nacc. I personally stay on the LTS releases unless absolutely necessary
[21:50] <nacc> TheM4st3r: this is the ubuntu support channel, as i just had ubottu tell you.
[21:51] <j4f-shredder__> I will wipe out windows as well, I hate that
[21:51] <nacc> j4f-shredder__: it's not unheard of for kernel updates to regress things, because hardware is finicky. Usually a bug filed will get it fixed. Or, if you were to boot the most current 16.10 kernel, it's fixed there, and you just need to update your system from the live usb.
[21:51] <TheM4st3r> How use IRC? This my first channel in the chat lmfao
[21:51] <k1l> !irc > TheM4st3r
[21:51] <j4f-shredder__> the best SO I-ve used so far is mac, followed by Ubuntu, it's a shame that it doesn't get the same attention
[21:51] <TheM4st3r> Ok
[21:52] <j4f-shredder__> but some day it will
[21:52] <k1l> darsparx: i guess its not connected with powerline to the internet, right?
[21:52] <quesker> I commented out "start on runlevel ..." in autofs.conf but initctl show-config autofs still shows start on ...
[21:52] <TheNH813> How do I remove additional data downloads from apt?
[21:53] <darsparx> k1l: I mean I guess it's going through our home modem/router combo but I've never done something like this before and trying to get it up and running
[21:53] <TheNH813> I uninstalled a application, but I still get the "Additional data failed to download" for an application that's no longer installed.
[21:53] <TheM4st3r> You're speak a Portuguese (Brasil)?
[21:53] <TheNH813> Which config file do I erase some lines out of?
[21:53] <TheM4st3r> "(Brazil)?"
[21:54] <nacc> !pt | TheM4st3r
[21:54] <weaksauce> I am getting `su: User not known to the underlying authentication module` when trying to startup fetchmail
[21:54] <yobagme_> j4f-shredder__: Ubuntu is actually plenty stable. Wifi on Linux can be a PITA unless you're using tried and true intel chipset-based devices.
[21:54] <weaksauce> this has been working fine for years
[21:54] <nacc> TheM4st3r: which application? you might need to purge it
[21:54] <k1l> darsparx: if you want one internal machine to be reached behind a router, you need to forward the ports on the router. its like sending a mail just to a adress without naming the house number. the postman doesnt know which house to give it to.
[21:54] <genii> weaksauce: Use sudo -i  instead
[21:54] <TheNH813> weaksauce: USe sudo.
[21:54] <weaksauce> I am running /etc/init.d/fetchmail start
[21:55] <darsparx> k1l: then how do I do that? I'm still trying to learn this since I'm trying to manage a home server for this >_>
[21:55] <TheM4st3r> :( O chat em português não pega no Ubuntu 15.10
[21:55] <TheNH813> Su dosen't work unless root has a password, which dosen't exist on modern Linux systems for security purposes.
[21:55] <TheNH813> Go sudo -i
[21:55] <k1l> weaksauce: what ubuntu is it?
[21:55] <TheNH813> Then type  /etc/init.d/fetchmail start
[21:55] <weaksauce> k1l it's fairly old
[21:55] <genii> weaksauce: Instead of running scripts in /etc/init or /etc/init.d use instead service. Like sudo service servicename start
[21:55] <TheNH813> "sudo -i" will get you a root terminal.
[21:55] <weaksauce> ok
[21:56] <k1l> weaksauce: ? details matter. since different ubuntu use different init systems
[21:56] <bekks> weaksauce: sudo /etc/init.d/fetchmail start
[21:56] <TheNH813> Oh yeah, "sudo service fetchmail start" should also work if it's in init.d.
[21:56] <weaksauce> what's the way to check k1l
[21:56] <k1l> weaksauce: lsb_release -sd
[21:56] <genii> bekks:  But then what happens if there's already an upstart instance from /etc/init running?
[21:56] <weaksauce> 10.04.4 lts k1l
[21:56] <bekks> genii: Never tried it.
[21:56] <k1l> darsparx: you need to use the routers website to set the ports.
[21:56] <TheNH813> Is that Ubuntu Lucid? That's old. XD
[21:57] <j4f-shredder__> what are good wifi adapters for ubuntu?
[21:57] <bekks> !10.04
[21:57] <k1l> lucid is already deaad.
[21:57] <weaksauce> `fetchmail: You don't exist.  Go away.`
[21:57] <weaksauce> using sudo service fetchmail start
[21:58] <TheNH813> Fetchmail is being rude. Did you not setup accounts?
[21:58] <k1l> darsparx: there you need to forward the ports for quassel to the internal ip from your homeserver.
[21:58] <weaksauce> TheNH813 yes, this has been working for years fine
[21:58] <quesker> grep su /etc/init.d/fetchmail, then grep for that su -c user in /etc/passwd
[21:59] <TheNH813> weaksauce: Maybe something got corrupted. Couldn't hurt to make sure permissions and settings are good once more.
[21:59] <yobagme_> j4f-shredder__: stick with intel wifi when possible. I can vouch for the Intel 7265 and 6230 devices personally
[22:00] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: Back ., lets try and take a poke at this ; ' sudo dpkg -P linux-headers-3.13.0-{39,40,45,46,48,49,51,52,53,54,55,63,65,66,71}{,-generic} ' .
[22:00] <quesker> how do you get changes to stuff in /etc/init/ to take effect?   initctl reload-configuration isn't doing it
[22:00] <Luser_> Is this where I would ask about getting a PXE error while trying to boot from a usb stick?
[22:00] <weaksauce> quesker `su -s /bin/sh -c "/usr/bin/strace -tt $* $DAEMON $OPTIONS --nosyslog --nodetach -v -v" $USER <&- 2>&1`
[22:00] <weaksauce> and `su -s /bin/sh -c "$DAEMON $OPTIONS --nosyslog --nodetach -v -v" $USER <&- 2>&1`
[22:00] <quesker> ok grep that USER now
[22:01] <quesker> grep USER /etc/init.d/fetchmail
[22:01] <TheNH813> Hey, anyone know how to get rid of the "Additional data failed to download" message? I even uninstalled the offending application, and it still comes up.
[22:01] <OerHeks> 10.04 is a honeypot now.
[22:02] <yobagme_> TheNH813: what package does it reference?
[22:02] <k1l> TheNH813: where does that message come from?
[22:02] <\9> weaksauce: 10.04 has been dead for two years now. you're way behind security packages
[22:02] <TheNH813> katsomo-desktop, wine-silverlight4-installer, wine-browser-installer, redbox-desktop, lovefilm-desktop, wine-mpg2splt-installer, netflix-desktop, sumo-tv2-desktop, wine-silverlight5.1-installer, maxdome-desktop, wine-silverlight5.0-installer
[22:02] <weaksauce> it's fetchmail and that user exists
[22:02] <TheNH813> I tried to install the netflix client. That was a bad idea,
[22:02] <\9> weaksauce: upgrade now for your own sake, your system is very vulnerable for attack
[22:02] <k1l> TheNH813: run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" and put all the output to paste.ubuntu.com
[22:02] <quesker> so try su to that user
[22:02] <weaksauce>  \9 yeah I know. I have suggested to upgrade but they don't want to
[22:02] <quesker> (as root)
[22:03] <\9> weaksauce: they?
[22:03] <weaksauce> quesker I get the same error as before
[22:03] <weaksauce> su user not known...
[22:03] <ubuntu-mate> hi all
[22:03] <weaksauce> perhaps they got hacked
[22:04] <ubuntu-mate> im new here
[22:04] <TheNH813> k1l: Will do.
[22:04] <quesker> grep fetchmail /etc/shadow maybe
[22:04] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: ok, let me try
[22:04] <weaksauce> quesker it's in there
[22:04] <quesker> strange
[22:04] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: i wanna keep the current one and the very first one
[22:04] <dannyLpz> k1l: How can I see if XFCE use .desktop files?
[22:05] <\9> dannyLpz: everything uses .desktop files
[22:05] <weaksauce> also, i am getting a `I have no name!` on my command line from my user account
[22:05] <quesker> when was the last time /etc/passwd changed?
[22:05] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: so linux-headers-3.13.0-36 and 3.13.0-101-generic
[22:05] <genii> j4f-shredder__: If you go to https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Main_Page and look up Atheros or Qualcomm Atheros, then from the next page abgn capable chipsets, at the right of that page are links labelled like "8 adapters" which you can follow to find out what products contain those chips.
[22:05] <quesker> yeah you have issues.  can you touch a file?
[22:05] <quesker> disk is hosed
[22:05] <dannyLpz> \9 16:39 < k1l> dannyLpz: does the xfce use .desktop files? look if there is the wrong path
[22:05] <j4f-shredder__> if I buy a non wifi pci ethernet, can I choose any board?
[22:05] <weaksauce> quesker yeah it was hacked
[22:06] <quesker> haha
[22:06] <TheNH813> weaksauce: Sounds like you might need to reinstall the OS.
[22:06] <j4f-shredder__> cause those boards are really expensive here
[22:06] <TheNH813> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24049191/
[22:06] <TheNH813> Here's the paste
[22:06] <weaksauce> passwd was modified yesterday by zimbra
[22:06] <\9> maybe they used the dirty c0w exploit
[22:06] <OerHeks> weaksauce, you won't get serious support on that, backup and reinstall a supported ubuntu.
[22:06] <quesker> sorry but I agree with that
[22:06] <k1l> TheNH813: no error there
[22:06] <\9> weaksauce: but yeah it's game over now
[22:07] <TheNH813> k1l: Yup, looks like a normal upgrade to me.
[22:07] <genii> j4f-shredder__: Pretty much any ethernet or wifi card with an Atheros chipset will work under linux fine
[22:07] <weaksauce> I assume it's been hacked as zimbra shouldn't have any business in there
[22:07] <TheNH813> weaksauce: Sounds like you have no option but to reinstall and upgrade then.
[22:07] <weaksauce> suppose so.
[22:07] <dannyLpz> I install Dropbox in XFCE, and now, when open "nautilus" showme the path: $HOME/.dropbox-work
[22:08] <TheNH813> weaksauce: As reinstalling 10.04 will not go well, with the repos being offline.
[22:08] <Zythyr> Hi. I am installing Ubuntu 16 on a thin client desktop SSD. This desktop as onl 2GB RAM. Would adding a SWAP space help improve the speed? HOw much space should I allocate for SWAP?
[22:08] <bekks> Zythyr: No.
[22:08] <bekks> Zythyr: And allocate as much swap as your physical RAM, if you want to use suspend to disk.
[22:08] <\9> Zythyr: swap space does not improve speed, it adds "emergency memory" in case you run out of RAM
[22:09] <k1l> Zythyr: swap is slower than ram. it will not improve speed. it will just keep the system going and not kill apps to free ram again.
[22:09] <Zythyr> Ohhh okay so its only for emergency
[22:10] <Zythyr> Because its a SSD drive, isn't it possible to use the SWAP as a way to extend RAM?
[22:10] <k1l> dannyLpz: its either ~/.local/share/applications or /usr/share/applications where the .desktop files are
[22:10] <TheNH813> k1l: https://s6.postimg.org/lghaxkk35/Screenshot_from_2017_02_22_16_07_12.png
[22:10] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: Correct . we intend to keep the current and one under kernels . remind me again of the booting kernel ( uname -r ) .
[22:10] <k1l> Zythyr: even ssds are a lot slower than ram.
[22:10] <TheNH813> This pops up every few hours.
[22:10] <\9> Zythyr: even SSD speeds pale in comparison to RAM
[22:10] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: 3.13.0-101-generic
[22:10] <k1l> Zythyr: you can only add more ram if you want to maintain speed while using more ram.
[22:11] <TheNH813> I even used ppa-purge to remove everything, yet it's still there.
[22:11] <azizLIGHT> also want to keep 3.13.0-37.64
[22:11] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: K on the current boot . did removing all those old headers complete with no errors ?
[22:12] <Zythyr> I read online that SWAP parititon should be 2x the physical RAM. WHat if I do larger swap space? Is it hurtful?
[22:12] <azizLIGHT> im about to do it Bashing-om . just checking something
[22:12] <k1l> TheNH813: even after reboot?
[22:12] <TheNH813> Yup.
[22:12] <\9> Zythyr: using larger swap than that is just waste
[22:12] <JJ_298034> Anyone got any tips for adjust mousewheel scroll speed? I've tried imwheel without noticable effect (no noticeable difference between 1 and 3, set it to 100 just to see if it was working - It was!;)
[22:12] <yobagme_> Zythyr: Its not harmful, but you're wasting space
[22:12] <k1l> Zythyr: that is an old myth, same size as ram due to using suspend.
[22:13] <Zythyr> Ohhh okay. Thank you. I have plenty of space on the SSD. Now I can partition accordinaly
[22:13] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: how come the command is only for headers? what about image, and signed-image
[22:13] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: and also image-extra
[22:13] <darsparx_> k1l: well I obviously don't know what I'm doing, I just did the port forwarding on the router and still can't get connected >_<
[22:14] <MarkB2> NVidia drivers... again.  But this driver (305 from their web site) installed and came up with only one problem: It's a two screen system.. and it's got the displays swapped.
[22:15] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: a few errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24049283/
[22:15] <weaksauce> where is pam configured?
[22:16] <MarkB2> I've tried System Settings --> Display and moving swapping the position.  Applied.. and both displays flash for a bit.. then there's a couple of corrupted screens.  I can regain control by turning off lightdm.. but has anyone a solution for swapping left-for-right?
[22:16] <icyjug> how could i add ~/bin to path?
[22:16] <icyjug> or any folder
[22:17] <arasbm> I am running into a very strange touch ghosting problem with a brand new spin5 laptop. If anyone wants to help me here, let me know: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1667133
[22:17] <MarkB2> icyjug: From the command line:  $ export PATH=path_to_your_bin_directory:${PATH}
[22:17] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: i have /lib/modules/3.13.0-whatever-generic/misc/vmmon.ko and /lib/modules/3.13.0-whatever-generic/misc/vmnet.ko files for each of those dirs. i think these are vmware workstation related
[22:17] <dannyLpz> k1l: http://pastebin.com/t9gLqQZv
[22:17] <\9> icyjug: create a file called .bash_aliases if one doesn't exist, and add to it: export PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"
[22:17] <\9> icyjug: then source ~/.bashrc
[22:18] <icyjug> MarkB2: will this preserve the old paths?
[22:18] <MarkB2> icyjug: It will... but would need to be done for each shell.  \9's solution is better.
[22:19] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: Package manager can not deal with old /lib/modules/3.XXX, and neither can I . Any reason why we can not remove these old old files ?
[22:19] <icyjug> \9 i didnt understand the source ~/.bashrc part sorry :(
[22:19] <\9> icyjug: it's just to make it take effect in the current shell
[22:20] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: why cant we just leave them be
[22:20] <k1l> icyjug: if you create the bin folder in your home, then just relogin
[22:20] <azizLIGHT> what if i need them lol
[22:20] <\9> icyjug: "source" is a bash command that makes bash read a file as a series of commands as if they were input, and "~/.bashrc" is the local settings file
[22:20] <icyjug> ah ok it is a command to update things
[22:20] <pavlos> icyjug, pop another term and type, echo $PATH ... you will see the ~/bin
[22:20] <\9> icyjug: you can just restart the terminal instead if you want
[22:21] <k1l> dannyLpz:  look into the nautulis files. the org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop file, if there is the wrong path.
[22:21] <icyjug> pavlos so nice :D
[22:22] <icyjug> \9 what about the .bash_aliases file, do i have to add it anywhere?
[22:22] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: Well . while you can leave them it breaks the package manager . and with them left in place I do not know how to deal with it either . Broke bad enough as is . and I can anticipate breaking the package manager even more before we can fix it .
[22:22] <icyjug> maybe a reference in the .bashrc?
[22:23] <azizLIGHT> oh
[22:23] <azizLIGHT> maybe we stop lol
[22:23] <pavlos> icyjug, .bashrc will look for .bash_aliases and if present, it will source it
[22:24] <icyjug> pavlos oh well..
[22:24] <Chicken_Wrap> hey
[22:24] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: Your system, your effort, your goals ---- your call as to what to do , all I can do is give my best advise .
[22:25] <dannyLpz> No have a path, have Keywords, Exec, Icon, Terminal, Type, DBusActivatable, StartupNotify, Categories, MimeType and X-Gnome
[22:26] <TheNH813> Well, I went through my sources and imported apt keys and removed the things I don't need, then erased everything in /var/cache/apt, and ran apt-get update (yes, I backed the folder up first). So far, the message hasn't appeared. I'm gonna try logging out and back in to see if it appears now.
[22:27] <dannyLpz> BTW, Nautilus don save the changes, I mean, if I configure view type list, in the next start, show name list.
[22:29] <weaksauce> what would cause my id to not show up on the command line? I have no name!@<server>:~$
[22:29] <weaksauce> echo $USER is the correct user
[22:31] <chocolaterobot> is there still a ubuntu flavor that works on Anroid tablets?
[22:31] <transhuman_> hi is for apache is the /etc/apache2/mods-enabled directory supposed to be all symlinks to mods-available similar to sites-enabled/sites-available?
[22:31] <chocolaterobot> by that i mean: touchscreen
[22:31] <nacc> transhuman_: iirc, yes
[22:31] <nacc> transhuman_: i mean, that's a choice, and the default in ubuntu
[22:32] <weaksauce> where does    ` \u     the username of the current user` get set?
[22:32] <weaksauce> if not $USER
[22:32] <weaksauce> for the PS1
[22:32] <TheNH813> k1l: Well, I think that fixed it. Just needed to manually erase the apt cache.
[22:33] <k1l> TheNH813: ok
[22:33] <tangled_z> hi, i accidentally installed ubuntu without network manager
[22:33] <transhuman_> nacc its funny I did a  scp and some how I must have missed the option to preserve symlinks cause now its actual files that are copied from mods-available to mods-enabled
[22:34] <tangled_z> and now when i plugin the ethernet cable it's not connecting to the internet automatically
[22:34] <TheNH813> tangled_z: And I'm guessing you need to connect to the internet?
[22:34] <tangled_z> yeah :)
[22:34] <transhuman_> I guess the quickest way to correct it is scp them a second time with the right options
[22:34] <TheNH813> Open a terminal, and run "sudo service dhcpd start; sudo dhclient eth0" and that should fix it.
[22:35] <tangled_z> TheNH813: Thanks a lot!
[22:35] <TheNH813> Replace eth0 with the name of your network adaptor in "iwconfig" if it's not eth0.
[22:36] <pascal_> Hi everybody
[22:36] <pascal_> small and stupid question
[22:36] <dannyLpz> This is my problem: http://i.imgur.com/5oJqqli.png
[22:36] <pascal_> i used to have a program on my machine called screen
[22:36] <pascal_> does it stil exists
[22:37] <pascal_> i can find some documentation about it but i cant seem to find it anyware
[22:37] <TheNH813> tangled_z: Oh, and if the networking service isn't loaded, you might also need "sudo service networking start"
[22:38] <Guest53518> Hello
[22:38] <TheNH813> tnagled_z: And also, if the first part of the commadn dosent work, try "sudo dhcpd&" instead of "sudo service dhcpd start"
[22:38] <Guest53518> I need some help please
[22:38] <TheNH813> What do you need help with?
[22:38] <k1l> pascal_: "apt policy screen"
[22:39] <tangled_z> TheNH813: thanks! I was stuck on the first part, it was telling me that the service is not found
[22:39] <Guest53518> I have a chromebook and i installed kde with crouton
[22:39] <LooCfur_> k1l, I was about to tell him apt-get install screen, but I haven't used ubuntu in ages. It's not that simple anymore?
[22:39] <Guest53518> But when i do startkde
[22:39] <tangled_z> TheNH813: it told me now "the command dhcpd can be found in the following packages..." so its's not installed?
[22:39] <TheNH813> tangled_z: Hm..... try just the dhclient part.
[22:40] <brainwash> weaksauce: it is evaluated by bash. see man bash
[22:40] <pascal_> k1l thanks
[22:40] <tangled_z> TheNH813: Ok thanks, doing it now
[22:40] <j4f-shredder> hey, I just tried the live cd and the wifi adaptor works fine
[22:41] <j4f-shredder> how do I restablish the system?
[22:41] <k1l> LooCfur_: apt policy package will tell if the package is installed or not and what version is in what repo, i guess that is what the user wanted to know :)
[22:41] <TheNH813> tangled_z: If that doesn't work, I can give you a file containing the necessary .deb packages, if you have a way to copy them onto the system and tell my the OS version.
[22:42] <tangled_z> TheNH813: Thanks a lot! It works now :)
[22:42] <TheNH813> tangled_z: Make sure to get dhcpd installed, it's what automatically gets an IP address when the ethernet goes live.
[22:42] <TheNH813> Then get NetworkManager.
[22:42] <TheNH813> If you need it to do anything other then auto config.
[22:42] <SinaME> hello
[22:43] <SinaME> I really need help.
[22:43] <tangled_z> TheNH813: Thanks! Will do that now :)
[22:43] <TheNH813> SinaME: Yes? Waht's the problem?
[22:43] <SinaME> I followed this tutorial: https://www.linux.com/learn/how-easily-install-ubuntu-chromebook-crouton%20
[22:43] <SinaME> i have kde downloaded
[22:43] <j4f-shredder> k1l I did what you said
[22:44] <TheNH813> SinaME: What the problem with it then?
[22:44] <j4f-shredder> the wifi adaptor works on the live cd
[22:44] <j4f-shredder> how do I bring the kernel of my installed version to the one on the live cd??
[22:44] <SinaME> when i do "startkde" it pops up a window saying "could not start d-bus. can you call qdbus"
[22:44] <j4f-shredder> or whatever you had planned for me to do?
[22:44] <SinaME> i read online to fix it i should do "chronos@localhost / $ sudo rm -r -f /usr/local/chroots/precise"
[22:45] <SinaME> but now when i do startkde it says "No chroots found in /mnt/stateful_partition/crouton/chroots"
[22:45] <SinaME> thats my problem
[22:45] <TheNH813> Hm.... I don't think deleting the chroot is a good idea. That's essentially the OS.
[22:46] <SinaME> how can i fix it
[22:46] <Zythyr_> I followed this guide, hoever i don't have a Remote Desktop option in my Ubuntu 16: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ubuntu-remote-desktop-builtin-vnc-compatible-dead-easy/
[22:46] <SinaME> anyway to verify integrity of files?
[22:46] <TheNH813> SinaME: I'd say removing it, and starting over.
[22:46] <SinaME> how can i remove it
[22:47] <j4f-shredder> I need help please, my wifi adaptor froze the system 16.10 whenever I plugged it in, someone here just told me "check if a 16.10 live cd works with your wifi board and do a chroot", I just verified that works on a live cd, how do I do a "chroot" to restablish the system using this live cd???
[22:47] <TheNH813> I'v honestly never used a Chromebook or installed Ubuntu through Crouton.
[22:47] <k1l> j4f-shredder: chroot into the installed ubuntu. then run the apt update and apt full-upgrade.
[22:48] <TheNH813> SinaME: Maybe ask on the Ubuntu Forums.
[22:48] <j4f-shredder> how do I do that? Im already inside and with wifi
[22:48] <j4f-shredder> but I dont know how to "chroot"
[22:48] <j4f-shredder> Im with the live cd
[22:49] <TheNH813> jf4-shredder: So, you're trying to install a driver with chroot?
[22:49] <j4f-shredder> Im just following instructions, but I need noob instructions
[22:50] <j4f-shredder> I dont know what chroot means
[22:50] <SinaME> TheNH813: i am trying to re install and it says: http://pastebin.com/XPGLeGCb
[22:50] <j4f-shredder> I've stated that several times
[22:50] <j4f-shredder> "[19:47] <k1l> j4f-shredder: chroot into the installed ubuntu. then run the apt update and apt full-upgrade."
[22:50] <j4f-shredder> I need to know how to do that
[22:50] <k1l> j4f-shredder: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Update_Failure
[22:50] <k1l> make sure sda1 is your / partition
[22:51] <TheNH813> j4f-shredder: So, do you know what drive and partition the OS is installed on?
[22:51] <TheNH813> I can step you through what k1l linked if you need help?
[22:52] <j4f-shredder> no
[22:52] <j4f-shredder> sda1 is not
[22:52] <TheNH813> Open a command terminal.
[22:52] <j4f-shredder> yes
[22:52] <TheNH813> Type "sudo blkid"
[22:53] <gimpy649> In 16.04, how can I get KDE apps (e.g. konsole) to save their config?  This has been broken by default in ubuntu for years, wondering if there's a known solution
[22:53] <TheNH813> j4f-shredder: Paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com and link it.
[22:54] <j4f-shredder> paste.ubuntu.com/24049444
[22:54] <j4f-shredder> I have a 256 gb ssd
[22:55] <j4f-shredder> and a 1tb Hdd
[22:55] <linuxgecko> i have a pretty broken 15.04 server that i'm trying to get updated to the latest LTS, but it's being a PITA.  it's complaining that there is a problem it can't fix in with installed packages in the software center, and my apt-ese is too rusty to remember how to fix it myself, any suggestions?
[22:55] <nacc> !eolupgrade | linuxgecko: are you following this?
[22:55] <TheNH813> sdb4 seems it may be the Ubuntu partition.
[22:56] <nacc> TheNH813: would be my guess as well
[22:56] <j4f-shredder> anyway to verify the size
[22:56] <k1l> linuxgecko: are you sure its 15.04?
[22:56] <TheNH813> jf4-shredder: type "sudo mkdir /media/ubuntumount"
[22:56] <TheNH813> jf4-shredder: then "sudo mount /dev/sdb4 /media/ubuntumount"
[22:56] <k1l> linuxgecko: can you put the output onto paste.ubuntu.com and link it here?
[22:56] <TheNH813> And see if it looks like a Linux root partition.
[22:56] <nacc> j4f-shredder: `lsblk`
[22:57] <j4f-shredder> Im in gparted
[22:57] <j4f-shredder> I can see that the sdb4 is the partition
[22:57] <j4f-shredder> ubuntu is on ext4
[22:57] <TheNH813> Is it the OS partition then? Ok, I'l tell you how to chroot now.
[22:57] <linuxgecko> the GDM prompt says ubuntu 15.04, so pretty darn sure.
[22:58] <TheNH813> Open a terminal/
[22:58] <TheNH813> type sudo -i
[22:58] <j4f-shredder> yes
[22:58] <linuxgecko> k1l: i'm not getting CLI output to paste yet..
[22:58] <TheNH813> j4f-shredder: Then "mount /dev/sdb4 /mnt"
[22:58] <j4f-shredder> done
[22:59] <TheNH813> j4f-shredder: "mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev"
[22:59] <k1l> linuxgecko: then what are you doing there?
[22:59] <linuxgecko> nacc:  not yet, i am pretty out of touch with maintaining ubuntu.   i will be soon
[22:59] <j4f-shredder> I cant see the partition mounted on the system explorer
[22:59] <j4f-shredder> is that normal?
[22:59] <k1l> linuxgecko: "lsb_release -sd" to tell for sure what ubuntu that is
[22:59] <TheNH813> j4f-shredder: "mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc"
[22:59] <TheNH813> j4f-shredder: "mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys"
[23:00] <TheNH813> j4f-shredder: "chroot /mnt"
[23:00] <TheNH813> j4f-shredder: And now, it should be chrooted.
[23:00] <TheNH813> Which means anything you do int he command terminal, happends to the installation, and not the livecd.
[23:00] <linuxgecko> k1l: i wanted to make sure i had my system up to snuff BEFORE the EOL upgrade to something modern,  so i opened the software center in the gui, and it said there were issues with installed packages, gave me a repair button, i pushed it,  and it failed to complete the repair task.
[23:01] <j4f-shredder> ok
[23:01] <j4f-shredder> so now
[23:01] <j4f-shredder> which commands should I run?
[23:01] <linuxgecko> k1l: it has yet to give me more verbose info, so i can start "really" solving the issue
[23:01] <TheNH813> j4f-shredder: Which issue were you trying to fix using chroot?
[23:02] <TheNH813> Packages? Drivers?
[23:02] <k1l> linuxgecko: is it still running?
[23:02] <nacc> j4f-shredder: `apt update; apt full-upgrade`
[23:02] <linuxgecko> k1l:  the repair?   sorta?   i cycles back to telling me there is a problem, and prompts me to hit the repair button, or cancel
[23:03] <k1l> cancel it.
[23:03] <k1l> the repos are down, so it cant load anything
[23:03] <j4f-shredder> it wont let me
[23:03] <j4f-shredder> it says it cant resolve
[23:03] <j4f-shredder> the downloads
[23:03] <j4f-shredder> its like when you dont have internet
[23:04] <TheNH813> Try connecting a ethernet cable instead of using wireless if possible.
[23:04] <j4f-shredder> the ethernet board is burnt
[23:04] <k1l> TheNH813: j4f-shredder you need to set nameservers
[23:04] <j4f-shredder> I have internet on the live cd
[23:05] <nacc> j4f-shredder: did you read the wiki page k1l said?
[23:05] <j4f-shredder> should I add those two ips with nano?
[23:05] <k1l> j4f-shredder: that doesnt matter for the chroot
[23:05] <TheNH813> Yes. Nano can be used to add those.
[23:06] <j4f-shredder> or I can set them on the terminal?
[23:06] <j4f-shredder> good
[23:06] <j4f-shredder> now it seems to be connecting
[23:07] <ethan> Boi
[23:07] <ethan> anyone there
[23:07] <TheNH813> I never knew that chroots could have dns issues. That's very interesting. Thanks for the info k1l. I
[23:07] <j4f-shredder> if this doesnt work
[23:07] <TheNH813> ethan: Yes?
[23:07] <j4f-shredder> should I reinstall ubuntu to this live cd?
[23:07] <ethan> end your life
[23:08] <ethan> i need a daddy please
[23:08] <TheNH813> ethan: Please leave and stop spamming. This IRC is for Ubuntu support.
[23:08] <uxfi> ethan  hello
[23:08] <k1l> linuxgecko: then run "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" since there is no other way to upgrade to 15.10. after that run the regular "sudo do-release-upgrade" to get to 16.04
[23:09] <j4f-shredder> so, this is what you generally do when you have a problem?
[23:09] <TheNH813> j4f-shredder: You could try that if this doesn't work, yes.
[23:09] <j4f-shredder> chroot
[23:09] <j4f-shredder> to the installation with a live cd?
[23:09] <TheNH813> Yes, it can fix quite a few problems.
[23:09] <k1l> j4f-shredder: yes. then run "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[23:10] <j4f-shredder> it would be nice for ubuntu to have a cloud service so you can recover all your stuff when reinstalling
[23:10] <pavlos> is it still upgrading?
[23:10] <TheNH813> j4f-shredder: Or you can reinstall it if it's too much trouble to sort out. But that's a last resort method, as most of the time it's easier to fix things in chroot the reinstall everything.
[23:10] <j4f-shredder> ok
[23:10] <j4f-shredder> it has ended
[23:10] <j4f-shredder> should I reboot now?
[23:11] <TheNH813> j4f-shredder: Which issue were you trying to solve, just a apt issue, or is they anything else that needs fixing?
[23:11] <j4f-shredder> no, just the wifi freezing the OS
[23:11] <k1l> j4f-shredder: copy all the output to paste.ubuntu.com and show the link here
[23:11] <jaith> i have a problem where apache is creating files in a directory but these files are 644 instead of 664
[23:12] <j4f-shredder> where should I run the "apt issue"??
[23:12] <j4f-shredder> on the chroot?
[23:12] <jaith> am I correct in understanding that when apache creates files in some directory that the rwx settings of these files is determined by some umask value?
[23:12] <TheNH813> j4f-shredder: Huh?
[23:12] <j4f-shredder> you said to paste the output of apt issue
[23:12] <k1l> j4f-shredder: on the chroot of course.
[23:12] <nacc> j4f-shredder: yes, you should logout of the chroot (exit), umount the disk and reboot
[23:12] <j4f-shredder> but which command
[23:13] <nacc> j4f-shredder: it wasn't a ommand
[23:13] <nacc> TheNH813: j4f-shredder had a wifi problem
[23:13] <nacc> TheNH813: and their system was not updating
[23:13] <TheNH813> nacc: Ah, ok.
[23:13] <j4f-shredder> how do I unmount
[23:13] <nacc> TheNH813: as they had no network without the wifi
[23:13] <TheNH813> umount /mnt
[23:13] <nacc> j4f-shredder: outside the chroot, `umount /mnt`
[23:14] <j4f-shredder> target is busy
[23:14] <j4f-shredder> it says
[23:14] <TheNH813> Yeah, exit the chroot terminal, open a new one, and do "sudo umount /mnt"
[23:14] <TheNH813> Make sure the chroot is exited first, or it's "in use".
[23:14] <j4f-shredder> yes
[23:14] <j4f-shredder> I cn see ubuntu@ubuntu
[23:15] <TheNH813> Then type "sudo umount /mnt"
[23:16] <j4f-shredder> what happens if I reboot without unmounting?
[23:16] <TheNH813> It could potentially cause the same thing as unplugging a flash drive wihtotu ejecting.
[23:16] <TheNH813> Filesystem corruption/errors.
[23:16] <TheNH813> j4f-shredder: If that's not working, type "sudo lsof /mnt" to see what's using it.
[23:17] <j4f-shredder> yes, I'm having trouble opening the terminal on the live cd
[23:17] <j4f-shredder> it's a little slow
[23:17] <wedgie> shutting down or rebooting should sync all disks. That is what happens to your regular hard drives every time you do so.
[23:18] <TheNH813> wedgie: It should, but generally unmounting a chroot is an extra precaution taken. IF it won't unmount, then yeah, just try rebooting.
[23:18] <j4f-shredder> I pressed ctrl alt esc to try yto go to the other terminal and now Im stuck there
[23:18] <j4f-shredder> how do I get back to the gui
[23:18] <TheNH813> CTRL+ALT+F7
[23:18] <j4f-shredder> cause the terminal is taking forever
[23:19] <j4f-shredder> to open
[23:19] <j4f-shredder> I might just reboot and see what happens
[23:19] <azizLIGHT> !kernel
[23:19] <TheNH813> j4f-shredder: Just reboot then if it's having issues.
[23:19] <azizLIGHT> !backport
[23:19] <pavlos> and remove the live cd
[23:19] <azizLIGHT> how do i get the backported kernels
[23:20] <nacc> azizLIGHT: what backported kernels? do you mean the hwe stack?
[23:20] <azizLIGHT> i think so
[23:20] <nacc> azizLIGHT: are you on 16.04?
[23:20] <azizLIGHT> im on 14.04 and want new kernel
[23:20] <nacc> azizLIGHT: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[23:20] <azizLIGHT> i want my xbox one controller to work
[23:21] <k1l> !hwe | azizLIGHT
[23:21] <j4f-shredder> it didnt work
[23:21] <j4f-shredder> I will just save my work and reinstall
[23:21] <j4f-shredder> for some reason I have like 6 entrances result of a UEFI installation
[23:21] <j4f-shredder> windows 7/ubuntu
[23:21] <j4f-shredder> I will just wipe windows
[23:22] <j4f-shredder> and install ubuntu on the whole disk
[23:22] <jaith> if apache is creating new files in some directory with 644 perms, but i want 664 perms, can I change a setting for that directory so that all files created in it are 664? Or does umask only apply to apache process itself?
[23:22] <TheNH813> j4f-shredder: If you're gonna do that, make sure you don't forget to backup everything, and good luck.
[23:22] <j4f-shredder> I think I might have done all the chroot on the wrong partition cause I didn't see the unit mounter on the explorer
[23:22] <yobagme_> j4f-shredder: Is there any reason why you're using 16.10? Personally I would recommend reinstalling to 16.04 LTS unless theres something in 16.10 you absolutely need
[23:22] <j4f-shredder> I typed what you said
[23:23] <j4f-shredder> I will do that
[23:23] <TheNH813> Also, make sure "additional software and drivers" is checked during the Ubuntu install. It might fix the WiFi problem.
[23:23] <j4f-shredder> just out of curiosit
[23:23] <j4f-shredder> y
[23:23] <j4f-shredder> when I was doing the mount
[23:23] <j4f-shredder> should I have seen the unit mounted on nautilus?
[23:23] <nacc> jaith: umask is a per-process thing
[23:23] <j4f-shredder> cause it wasnt there
[23:24] <j4f-shredder> it was another 32 gb partition
[23:24] <j4f-shredder> which was the windows one
[23:24] <j4f-shredder> ubuntu was on ext4
[23:24] <pavlos> sdb4 was ext4 and sdb5 was swap
[23:25] <j4f-shredder> but should I have seen that partition on nautilus?
[23:25] <TheNH813> Did you run nautilus as root?
[23:25] <TheNH813> And manually open /mnt?
[23:25] <TheNH813> Otherwise, it won't appear int he list of drives.
[23:25] <j4f-shredder> oohh ok
[23:25] <j4f-shredder> then it really didint work
[23:25] <j4f-shredder> such a shame
[23:27] <number28> Anyone have any idea why my wireless adapter continutes to change from wlan 1 to it's hardware name? (wlx048d388a2029)
[23:27] <number28> [ 4453.474704] rtl8192cu 1-1:1.0 wlx048d388a2029: renamed from wlan1
[23:27] <azizLIGHT> The following packages have been kept back: kodi kodi-bin libva1 libva1:i386 linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-signed-generic linux-signed-image-generic
[23:27] <TheNH813> number28: That's odd. Is it causing any issues?
[23:27] <azizLIGHT> why is this happening
[23:27] <wedgie> azizLIGHT: apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:28] <TheNH813> number28: Otherwise, I'd just say it's a drivers quirk.
[23:28] <number28> TheNH813: Negative, it does it to two different adapters. It's just a pain in the ass to type the whole thing being its like 14 characters
[23:28] <number28> TheNH813: Do i use modprobe to address the issue?
[23:28] <wedgie> azizLIGHT: happens when the upgrade requires some packages to be uninstalled or new ones to be installed
[23:28] <nacc> number28: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[23:28] <TheNH813> number28: Hm... let me check something.
[23:28] <nacc> number28: you can pass a kernel parameter if you don't want it
[23:28] <azizLIGHT> will this move me from some 14.04.x to another 14.04.y ?
[23:28] <Bashing-om> number28: 16.04 ? https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ ??
[23:28] <nacc> number28: but generally the device name doesn't matter to you as the end user
[23:29] <nacc> number28: in what context do you have to type it out so often?
[23:29] <yobagme_> azizLIGHT: Yes, if you're on 14.04.2 and the latest is 14.04.5, dist-upgrade will upgrade you to the latest
[23:29] <azizLIGHT> how do i check which 14.04 im on
[23:30] <TheNH813> Well, I have to leave, sorry. I'l let nacc handle this, they seem to have a better idea of the network names anyway.
[23:30] <nacc> yobagme_: that's not entirely true
[23:30] <yobagme_> nacc:No? That's how I always move up a point release
[23:30] <nacc> yobagme_: 14.04.2 and 14.04.5 aren't different in and of themselves, they are snapshots of 14.04 at different points
[23:30] <number28> nacc: packet sniffing. Changing the mode and turning it off and on and so on
[23:30] <nacc> yobagme_: if you want the corresponding HWE stack, that's a different statement
[23:30] <number28> Bashing-om: 16.10
[23:31] <nacc> yobagme_: but you can run the base 14.04.1 kernel and still be on 14.04.5 aiui
[23:31] <azizLIGHT> should i do dist-upgrade before i do hwe stack kernel
[23:31] <azizLIGHT> or do hwe stack kernel directly
[23:31] <nacc> yobagme_: it's rather confusing, tbh :)
[23:31] <number28> nacc: I appreciate the link btw
[23:31] <yobagme_> nacc: ahh, you're right.
[23:31] <nacc> yobagme_: so it's not that what you said was wrong, it's just implying that you're changing releases or anything.
[23:32] <nacc> yobagme_: so it's easier to talk about 'are you up to date on 14.04' and then ask 'what kernel are you on'
[23:32] <yobagme_> nacc: yeah, I worded that wrong. not what I meant, just that he would be moving up a minor release
[23:33] <nacc> yobagme_: not a big deal, but you've been helpful so far, so wanted to encourage you to keep being so :)
[23:33] <azizLIGHT> what version of kernel will i get if i install hwe stack kernel, if im on 14.04 (how do i check which snapshot im on? 14.04.3? 14.04.4? 14.04.5?)
[23:33] <yobagme_> nacc: danke :) ubuntu upgrades can be quirky like that.
[23:34] <nacc> number28: i would suggest those tools should have shell completions for the right things, then -- but yeah, you can pass 'net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0' if you don't want the feature on
[23:34] <wedgie> you'll get 4.4.0
[23:34] <azizLIGHT> wedgie: should i do dist-upgrade before getting hwe stack
[23:34] <number28> nacc: Much appreciasted
[23:35] <number28> nacc: Appreciated* What do you mean by 'shell completions'?
[23:35] <pavlos> azizLIGHT, my 14.04.5 has the -64 kernel
[23:35] <nacc> azizLIGHT: the level of 14.04 you are on should be emitted by `lsb_release -a`. If you've been doing regular `apt update; apt full-upgrade` (or the equivalent apt-get command, if apt isn't on trusty), then you're on 14.04.5
[23:35] <azizLIGHT> wedgie: theres a kernel held back in upgrades: linux-image-3.13.0-110-generic ... im currently on 3.13.0-101-generic
[23:36] <nacc> number28: bash can tab complete based upon specific rules; applications can specify what should be allowed to tab complete (so then you'd do something 'program to run <tab>' and it'd put in the names of network devices, e.g.
[23:36] <azizLIGHT> it says im on Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
[23:36] <wedgie> azizLIGHT: then you haven't upgraded the HWE stack
[23:37] <wedgie> !hwe | azizLIGHT
[23:37] <number28> nacc: Yeah, I thought of that, however it doesn't work with the biosdevname
[23:37] <nacc> azizLIGHT: so that's the (iirc) 14.04.1 hwe kernel -- you can stay on that if you want. Or you can install the hwe stack as wedgie said.
[23:37] <azizLIGHT> i have not, im asking if i should do dist-upgrade and get the kernel linux-image-3.13.0-110-generic (im currently on 3.13.0-101-generic on 14.04.5 LTS) before doing the HWE stack upgrade. or should i just go directly to hwe stack
[23:38] <number28> nacc: This page something about some distributions allowing the nameing of your own interfaces.. do you know if Ubuntu allows for that?
[23:38] <nacc> number28: you can probably do it via udev rules
[23:38] <wedgie> azizLIGHT: not sure it matters, but if it were me I think i'd have it fully up to date before installing the HWE stack. But again, probably doesn't matter
[23:39] <number28> nacc: I'm like halfway into my ubuntu book.. haven't gotten to udev yet.
[23:39] <number28> nacc: Suppose i'll look for it.
[23:39] <azizLIGHT> ok, when i instal lthe HWE stack, its like having another kernel in grub entries right? i can always revert back to 3.13.0-101-generic or older ones from the grub menu in case somethign doesnt work?
[23:39] <number28> nacc: Oh.. so one last thing, this biosdev name is a new systemd feature?
[23:40] <McJuicy> does anyone else have any issues where the focused app will change to an unfocused app sometimes? I'm using gnome3
[23:41] <McJuicy> becomes annoying because it will switch mid typing and I'll end up adding characters to some code
[23:41] <lotuspsychje> McJuicy: perhaps the #ubuntu-gnome guys might also know?
[23:41] <McJuicy> ok cool - I'll check there. Was wondering if that might be a unity thing as well
[23:43] <McJuicy> btw, why did ubuntu decide to go with unity over gnome?
[23:43] <lotuspsychje> McJuicy: perhaps a screenshot might be also usefull for your issue
[23:44] <McJuicy> for sure - hard to screenshot that behavior, maybe I can screen cap it
[23:44] <lotuspsychje> McJuicy: gnome and unity exist both seperate
[23:44] <McJuicy> yea but I remember the good ol days when it shipped with gnome2
[23:45] <McJuicy> life was much simpler back then - I was a young lad living with my parents. Long term support had just come out
[23:45] <lotuspsychje> McJuicy: think gnome has a gnome classic, and unity will have a lowFX mode in future versions
[23:45] <OerHeks> !flavor
[23:45] <OerHeks> mate for gnome 2-ish
[23:45] <Zythyr_> Need help. I installed Ubuntu 16. I configured "Desktop Sharing Preferences". However, in my Windows PC, I am unable to connect to my unbuntu using TightVNC. I get error: No security types supported.
[23:46] <McJuicy> lotuspsychje - got it, currently using the classic version. Just reminiscing ;)
[23:46] <lotuspsychje> Zythyr_: be carefull with vnc, might be a security risk
[23:46] <McJuicy> appreciate all the help you all give
[23:46] <Zythyr_> lotuspsychje Then what do I use for remote desktop?
[23:46] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | Zythyr_ or choose ssh?
[23:46] <lotuspsychje> McJuicy: welcome mate
[23:47] <lotuspsychje> Zythyr_: what will be your endgoal with the remote sessions?
[23:47] <yobagme_> Zythyr_: another option is x2go. uses ssh to render your entire x session remotely to another computer, sound and all. i used it all the time from work to access my home network
[23:48] <Zythyr_> lotuspsychje I need to remote desktop into the Ubuntu to configure it using the GUI because the Ubuntu will not have a keyboard or mouse.
[23:50] <pavlos> Zythyr_, I use nomachine to access linux/windows servers
[23:50] <Zythyr_> Thanks guys for the info. I'll look into the VNC over SSH
[23:50] <lotuspsychje> Zythyr_: try ssh to control your remote desktop, or what yobagme_ suggests, or for one time use perhaps teamviewer
[23:51] <Zythyr_> Good point
[23:51] <Zythyr_> Thank u guys :)
[23:51] <lotuspsychje> Zythyr_: if your remote desktop will be 24/7 try also hardening
[23:52] <Zythyr_> hardening?
[23:52] <lotuspsychje> Zythyr_: if you use an ssh server, fail2ban for the bruteforce protection, vnc also gets hammered daily
[23:53] <yobagme_> Zythyr_: you can enable ssh keys instead of username/password if you decide to go the ssh route. much more secure than using a standard password
[23:54] <BlackVovan228> Hey guys
[23:56] <Zythyr_> yes i was going to configure the ssh keys
[23:56] <yobagme_> BlackVovan228: hello
[23:58] <mellowmaroon> Hi, am I able to ask about Ubuntu Gnome here? Is it considered an official derivative?
[23:58] <lotuspsychje> mellowmaroon: yes
[23:59] <mellowmaroon> Cool, thanks.
[23:59] <BlackVovan228> yobagme_: Trakhal tvojuy mat'
[23:59] <yobagme_> mellowmaroon: sure. its the one i use
[23:59] <lotuspsychje> mellowmaroon: you can also visit # ubuntu-gnome for more specific questions also
[23:59] <mellowmaroon> Awesome. So, I was having some trouble updating my laptop (same flavor).