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naccslangasek: i think we can hold off -- i'm genuinely not sure on the behavioral changes -- we are going from a 5.24.1~rc4 upstream to 5.24.1. I think it's ok to hold it00:02
naccwell, I said that twice as I gathered my thoughts :)00:03
naccslangasek: the only thing i've yet to fully track down is the libaws/liblog4ada regression on p/z only. It's not just a rebuild needed (or if it is, it's a rebuild needed of several packages). I've shot an e-mail off to doko  and will try and get it resolved.00:06
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: wine1.6 (xenial-proposed/universe) [1:1.6.2-0ubuntu14.1 => 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu14.2] (no packageset)00:20
tsimonq2Laney, slangasek, and infinity: Bug 1667128 might be blocking Beta 1 for Lubuntu and I don't have access to the seed, and I haven't confirmed it's a bug because I don't have a laptop, so if it could get confirmed and fixed by a wonderful, kind person, I can add a beer tally. ;)02:07
ubot5bug 1667128 in lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "zesty beta1 does not have xserver-xorg-synaptics so my touchpad mousewheel does not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/166712802:07
tsimonq2(Oxford comma ftw, hah pleia2 :P)02:08
cyphermoxtsimonq2: ok, I can do that03:28
cyphermoxxserver-xorg-input-all recommends -synaptics already (Timo added it) but lubuntu doesn't follow recommends.03:31
UkikieCauses a lot of headaches, but it does limit the junk they pull in. :/03:37
cyphermoxwell, scrolling is kinda helpful.03:39
cyphermoxI tend to question whether stuff some people classify as junk really is worth the hassle, but it's definitely not my call ;)03:40
cyphermox/usr/bin/germinate-update-metapackage: Installed debootstrap is older than in the previous version! (1.0.81ubuntu3 < 1.0.86)03:42
cyphermoxo.O?03:42
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cyphermoxah, pitti was naughty and used Debian's debootstrap to update the meta... which I don't think I really need to update anyway03:45
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tsimonq2cyphermox: Got it? :)03:57
cyphermoxnearly done, last thing I do before going to bed03:57
tsimonq2Yay04:07
tsimonq2cyphermox: Don't pull a GitLab :P04:08
cyphermoxthe what?04:08
tsimonq2(OK, that was mean, I'm sorry...)04:08
tsimonq2cyphermox: GitLab imploded a few weeks ago because the sysadmin did something right before bed04:08
cyphermoxwell, it's exactly what I'm doing04:09
Ukikie\o/04:09
cyphermoxbut I don't think it's much likely to explode too much04:09
tsimonq2cyphermox: Good read after some sleep to get why that was a cruel joke. :P https://about.gitlab.com/2017/02/01/gitlab-dot-com-database-incident/04:09
cyphermoxtsimonq2: don't worry, I know enough about the Friday PM rule from years as a sysadmin before Canonical.04:12
cyphermoxI've had my share of "oops, this system probably won't boot again if you stop it"04:12
cyphermoxor weird pages during the night because some machine died... or the occasional lalala ran the wrong command on the wrong system and (all the network is down|I need to get to the datacenter to turn this back on)04:13
tsimonq2Yyyeeeaaahhh :P04:14
tsimonq2cyphermox: Ping me when you're done and I can respin Lubuntu images04:14
cyphermoxtsimonq2: it's mostly done, the lubuntu-meta is building, but I don't think it's worth respinning right now04:15
tsimonq2Oh?04:15
cyphermoxmy wild guess is that they should spin again very soon on the normal cron04:15
tsimonq2cyphermox: Uhm, Beta 1 froze everything up, are you sure about that?04:15
tsimonq2It's supposed to land tomorrow :P04:15
tsimonq2cyphermox: Why not respin?04:18
cyphermoxI'm not saying "you should not", more like "you're probably not helping, it should spin again".04:19
cyphermoxI'm not sure, but I don't think we stop spinning dailies for these milestones04:19
tsimonq2Ah k04:19
tsimonq2cyphermox: Yes we do :P04:20
cyphermoxyou got that stopped on Sunday?04:20
tsimonq2Yep04:21
tsimonq2cyphermox: Blame Laney :P04:21
cyphermoxokay then04:21
tsimonq2:)04:21
cyphermoxthe alternate isn't stopped though04:21
tsimonq2Uh WHAT?04:21
cyphermoxoh wait04:21
tsimonq2You sure?!?04:21
cyphermoxsorry, that's my bad, it might well be, just got respun a lot more than the desktop one04:22
tsimonq2I see04:22
tsimonq2Yep, that's accurate04:22
cyphermoxfull disclosure: I'm not in the release team, I don't have access to see the crontab, I can only deduce from what I see in logs, etc.04:22
cyphermoxit doesn't really say if it's a cron04:22
tsimonq2Got it ;)04:23
cyphermoxheh, since I modified stuff, I might as well babysit this for a bit04:27
cyphermoxyou might not want to respin for a few minutes, I updated lubuntu-meta, you might as well wait for it to be out of -proposed before respinning.04:27
tsimonq2Ok04:28
tsimonq2cyphermox: Do you have the ability to let it pass?04:28
cyphermoxit needs to take the time to be seen by britney04:29
tsimonq2Ok04:29
cyphermoxETA ~30 minutes, maybe?04:29
tsimonq2Alright, I'll keep an eye on it.04:30
tsimonq2cyphermox: Thanks. :)04:31
cyphermoxtsimonq2: ok, lubuntu-meta shows up, but it's obviously blocked by freeze. I can't unblock that, you'll need to ask someone else05:04
cyphermoxyou can probably still respin and things would work05:05
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: network-manager-openvpn (xenial-proposed/universe) [1.1.93-1ubuntu1 => 1.1.93-1ubuntu1.1] (no packageset)05:12
tsimonq2cyphermox: Ok05:17
tsimonq2ARCHIVE ADMINS: please someone let lubuntu-meta through, and when you do, respin Lubuntu Zesty Beta 1 Alternate *and* Desktop images.05:37
slangasektsimonq2: ftr you need release team, not archive admins05:43
slangasek(unblocked)05:43
tsimonq2slangasek: Ah yes it's 11 PM so yeah :P05:54
tsimonq2slangasek: I want someone else pressing buttons this late :P05:54
tsimonq2(and yet I'm writing an English essay, procrastination is awesome >__<05:55
tsimonq2)05:55
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (trusty-proposed/main) [3.13.0-111.158] (core, kernel)06:20
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (trusty-proposed) [3.13.0-111.158]06:36
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-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.22.3 => 2.22.6] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)08:03
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (yakkety-proposed/main) [2.22.3+16.10 => 2.22.6+16.10] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)08:03
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (trusty-proposed/universe) [2.22.3~14.04 => 2.22.6~14.04] (no packageset)08:16
Laneytsimonq2: less of the gratuitous blaming please09:06
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been updated (20170223)09:49
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been updated (20170223)09:49
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been updated (20170223)10:07
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been updated (20170223)10:07
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (trusty-proposed/main) [1.11.8-0ubuntu0.3 => 1.11.8-0ubuntu0.4] (ubuntu-desktop)10:17
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (yakkety-proposed/main) [1.13.4-3 => 1.13.4-3ubuntu0.1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)10:45
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (xenial-proposed/main) [1.13.4-1ubuntu1.1 => 1.13.4-1ubuntu1.2] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)10:49
tsimonq2Laney: I apologize, I meant it as a joke.12:25
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready12:26
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready12:26
Laneytsimonq2: Ok, np, I saw a lot of reacting to a false claim that the builds weren't stopped12:27
tsimonq2Laney: Got it, I was casually joking around ;)12:32
Laneynod12:33
Laneytsimonq2: So ... on topic12:37
tsimonq2Yes... :)12:37
Laneyif everyone gets ready in the next 5 hours then I can release before I finish working12:37
Laneyotherwise, a few hours after that I'll be around again12:38
Laneymaybe you can do some hassling12:38
Laneythink some people would like the freeze to be lifted :-)12:39
tsimonq2sakrecoer: Looks like Ubuntu Studio needs some testing yet, if you could take a look, that would be wonderful. :)12:39
tsimonq2Laney: Oh that's right, you're in the UK, by the time I get out of school, it'll already be late for you... :/12:40
tsimonq2Well, I think I can make something work. I have lunch at 11:35ish PM CST, we can release then?12:41
Laneythat's a late lunch12:44
tsimonq2Not really for local time ;)12:44
Laneydo you mean UTC?12:44
tsimonq2No, I didn't convert it, hold on12:45
* Laney is confused12:46
tsimonq2Laney: s/11:35ish PM/17:35ish UTC/12:46
LaneyAnyway, you don't have to be there12:46
tsimonq2Oh?12:46
LaneyIf they're ready when I'm around then I can push buttons12:46
Laneyand you just send some announcement email whenever12:46
tsimonq2Ok cool12:46
tsimonq2Alright :)12:46
LaneyJust get them marked on the tracker12:46
Laneyand I think you mean 11:35 AM12:46
tsimonq2Ah yes gah :P12:46
tsimonq2Off to school I go, ttyl o/12:47
handsome_fengHi, jbicha, flexiondotorg, could you help to upload the ukui-menu(bug #1664229) or ukui-indicators(bug #1664232)? We are waiting for this to decide what to do next.Thank you!13:25
ubot5bug 1664229 in Ubuntu Kylin "[FFe] ukui-menu" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/166422913:25
ubot5bug 1664232 in Ubuntu Kylin "[FFe] ukui-indicators" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/166423213:25
flexiondotorgLaney Any chance you could help handsome_feng out with the UKUI uploads for Ubuntu Kylin?13:30
Laneyflexiondotorg: Not right this second, maybe later ...13:51
LaneyAren't there like 7 packageS?13:51
LaneyThat's quite an ask13:51
handsome_fengThanks, flexiondotorg, Laney, Maybe you can upload one or two packages first in these two days?13:54
jbichais there anyone around who can accept new packages into stable releases? we're starting to run out of time for bug 165253714:19
ubot5bug 1652537 in chrome-gnome-shell (Ubuntu Xenial) "Update chrome-gnome-shell to version 8 in all supported releases" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165253714:19
rbasaksil2100: were you looking at this? ^14:42
rbasakW14:42
rbasakOr was that on the basis that Yakkety already had the package?14:42
sil2100Let me remind myself of the context for that one14:43
sil2100Yeah, so that one had a yakkety release already, so it was just a matter of reviewing the SRU14:43
sil2100But I have no formal power to accept NEW packages14:43
sil2100So it would have to have some real archive admin looking into that14:44
rbasakIf we did have the formal power, would there be anything in Launchpad stopping us?14:45
rbasakBecause this came up with the letsencrypt stuff too. And we expect to be backporting more stuff back generally with the new feature exception.14:45
rbasakSo it might be worth asking the TB to give us the formal power when the package is a straight backport from the development release (since it'd have had AA eyes on it already).14:46
rbasakOne caveat might be that the interactions with other packages may be different for a previous release, so we would need to check that.14:46
rbasakIt might be reasonable to conclude that AA eyes *are* required. But at least then we'll know and not be stuck in limbo.14:47
jbichaI believe slangasek accepted snapd into trusty, but is he the only one that can do this?14:52
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected gnome-recipes [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.12.0-0ubuntu1]15:27
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted networking-bgpvpn [source] (zesty-proposed) [5.0.0-0ubuntu1]15:27
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted networking-bagpipe [source] (zesty-proposed) [6.0.0-0ubuntu1]15:27
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted os-faults [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.1.10-0ubuntu1]15:27
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: os-faults [amd64] (zesty-proposed/none) [0.1.10-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)15:30
Laneysil2100: Pretty sure you do have the power15:32
LaneyI know I can do NEWing for -backports15:32
sil2100Power, yes, formal permission, no15:32
LaneyYou said "formal power"...15:32
sil2100Yeah, formalities I mean in overall15:33
sil2100For now I'm only to use this for kernel SRU purposes15:33
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: networking-bagpipe [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [6.0.0-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)15:34
Laney'k, I see what you mean15:34
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LaneyI think that the TB's delegation includes NEWing things as appropriate, but maybe that's just me :P15:35
rbasakWe should just ask the TB.15:37
rbasakThen we'd know.15:37
jbichaespecially if none of the active SRU members are full AAs15:37
rbasakWhich packages raise this question? chrome-gnome-shell, letsencrypt, anything else?15:38
jbichahttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+queue?queue_state=015:38
LaneyDo what you want, obviously.15:38
jbichaI'm also trying to get flatpak (with ostree and bubblewrap) into xenial15:38
jbichaflatpak also would be better with xdg-desktop-portal and xdg-desktop-portal-gtk so I'll probably work on those once these others are done15:40
rbasaktechnical-board@ email sent.15:44
LocutusOfBorghi cjwatson , can I sync acct? the delta says: "Remove stop links from rc0 and rc6."15:48
LocutusOfBorgis this still a problem with systemd? I guess this was an upstart issue15:48
cjwatsonno time to look this week, sorry.15:56
cjwatsonthat sort of change was generally from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teardown15:56
cjwatsonI don't know what effect it has with systemd15:56
LocutusOfBorgasked pitti on -devel :)16:09
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready16:09
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready16:10
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted puppet [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4.5.2-1ubuntu1.1]17:01
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted puppet [source] (xenial-proposed) [3.8.5-2ubuntu0.1]17:02
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted desktop-file-utils [source] (yakkety-proposed) [0.23-1ubuntu1.1]17:18
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted desktop-file-utils [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.22-1ubuntu5.1]17:19
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pg-repack [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.3.4-1ubuntu0.1]17:29
tsimonq2Could we please get some testers on Lubuntu and Ubuntu Studio for Zesty Beta 1?17:43
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lxd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.8-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1 => 2.0.9-0ubuntu1~16.04.2] (edubuntu, ubuntu-server)17:43
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sssd [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.13.4-3ubuntu0.1]17:46
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sssd [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.13.4-1ubuntu1.2]17:49
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sssd [source] (trusty-proposed) [1.11.8-0ubuntu0.4]17:50
tsimonq2Laney: So I guess it'll be a few hours?17:52
LaneyWell, not everybody is ready, so ...17:52
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected lxd [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.0.9-0ubuntu1~16.04.2]17:55
tsimonq2Laney: I'll be leaving in 15 mins, be back for 4 PM CST17:55
LaneyI'll just publish whatever is ready in 4 hours or so17:56
LaneyOthers can have a late release if they want it, but the freeze will be lifted then17:56
tsimonq2When Lubuntu is fully tested, you have my permission to mark as ready17:56
tsimonq2Gotcha17:56
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted wine1.6 [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:1.6.2-0ubuntu14.2]17:56
tsimonq2(not that you need my permission :P)17:57
slangasektsimonq2: get some testers> you're also asking this question in the flavor community channels, right?17:57
tsimonq2slangasek: Yep17:57
slangasekok17:57
flocculantnext time around - I'll try and be the community lead if laney is doing the canonical bits - might help some to have same timezone17:57
tsimonq2flocculant: Good idea17:58
slangasektsimonq2: it's no problem for you to ask here, just want to make sure the flavor communities are on board with doing this milestone since it's their responsibility to do the testing :)17:58
tsimonq2slangasek: Yep ;)17:58
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lxd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.8-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1 => 2.0.9-0ubuntu1~16.04.2] (edubuntu, ubuntu-server)17:58
tsimonq2I'm the Lubuntu guy now, I've been trying...17:59
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lxd [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.0.9-0ubuntu1~16.04.2]18:04
stgraberbdmurray: wow, that's express service, I didn't even see it hit the queue before you accepted it! Thanks! :)18:05
bdmurraystgraber: just a coincidence! is there going to be one for trusty?18:08
stgraberbdmurray: LXD in trusty is in -backports so I'll just backport the xenial package once it hits updates18:09
bdmurraystgraber: okay18:10
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gce-compute-image-packages (trusty-proposed/universe) [20160930-0ubuntu3~14.04.0 => 20160930-0ubuntu3~14.04.1] (ubuntu-cloud)18:37
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready19:06
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-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-lts-trusty [amd64] (precise-proposed/main) [3.13.0-111.158~precise1] (kernel)20:45
tsimonq2Laney: Clear for launch ;)21:10
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready21:10
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready21:10
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready21:10
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready21:10
Laneytsimonq2: Righto, let's get started then21:18
* Laney thanks past slangasek for fixing publish-image-set wrt budgie21:19
tsimonq2Laney: Awesome :)21:24
tsimonq2Laney: I'll be home in 30, I'll send the announcement right away21:25
LaneyUnlikely to be quite that fast21:30
Laneybut you can start writing it21:30
Laneysakrecoer: tsimonq2: Ubuntu Studio is ready for amd64 only, FYI21:31
tsimonq2Ok21:31
tsimonq2Laney: On mobile? :/21:31
LaneyCan publish that one later if necessary21:32
LaneyOr just leave it out21:32
tsimonq2I think it's sakrecoer's or Rosco2's choice ^^^^21:32
LaneySure21:33
LaneyI'm going to lift the freeze now too21:33
slangasekLaney: hey, why doesn't present slangasek get any credit21:35
flocculantslangasek: were you present and correct :)21:36
LaneyAny credit is strictly time limited and must be redeemed within 10ns21:38
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted binutils [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.26.1-1ubuntu1~16.04.4]21:51
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready22:26
* tsimonq2 verifies everything is published22:35
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapd [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.22.6+16.10]22:38
tsimonq2Laney, infinity, slangasek: Am I just too impatient, or is Ubuntu Budgie not publishing correctly?22:42
LaneyThe first one.22:46
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tsimonq2Laney: Aaaaha22:56
-queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: thermald (yakkety-proposed/main) [1.5.3-4 => 1.5.3-5] (core)22:59
tsimonq2Laney: Are you publishing Ubuntu Studio i386? It's marked as ready.23:14
* tsimonq2 is waiting to send the announcement until all the images show up23:14
LaneyAlready done23:16
LaneyYou should in fact wait for me to tell you I've finished :P23:16
LaneyWaiting for the last thing23:17
tsimonq2ok23:20
Laneytsimonq2: ok, once studio appears you can go23:38
tsimonq2Laney: Ok, sleep well ;)23:39
Laneyah, what great timing, there it is23:40
Laneynight23:40
Laneyoh I should say - cron builds are back on and the milestone is marked as released23:40
Laney-> back to dailies23:40
tsimonq2Yay ok thanks :)23:41

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