[00:02] slangasek: i think we can hold off -- i'm genuinely not sure on the behavioral changes -- we are going from a 5.24.1~rc4 upstream to 5.24.1. I think it's ok to hold it [00:03] well, I said that twice as I gathered my thoughts :) [00:06] slangasek: the only thing i've yet to fully track down is the libaws/liblog4ada regression on p/z only. It's not just a rebuild needed (or if it is, it's a rebuild needed of several packages). I've shot an e-mail off to doko and will try and get it resolved. [00:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: wine1.6 (xenial-proposed/universe) [1:1.6.2-0ubuntu14.1 => 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu14.2] (no packageset) [02:07] Laney, slangasek, and infinity: Bug 1667128 might be blocking Beta 1 for Lubuntu and I don't have access to the seed, and I haven't confirmed it's a bug because I don't have a laptop, so if it could get confirmed and fixed by a wonderful, kind person, I can add a beer tally. ;) [02:07] bug 1667128 in lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "zesty beta1 does not have xserver-xorg-synaptics so my touchpad mousewheel does not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1667128 [02:08] (Oxford comma ftw, hah pleia2 :P) [03:28] tsimonq2: ok, I can do that [03:31] xserver-xorg-input-all recommends -synaptics already (Timo added it) but lubuntu doesn't follow recommends. [03:37] Causes a lot of headaches, but it does limit the junk they pull in. :/ [03:39] well, scrolling is kinda helpful. [03:40] I tend to question whether stuff some people classify as junk really is worth the hassle, but it's definitely not my call ;) [03:42] /usr/bin/germinate-update-metapackage: Installed debootstrap is older than in the previous version! (1.0.81ubuntu3 < 1.0.86) [03:42] o.O? === NComman`` is now known as NCommander [03:45] ah, pitti was naughty and used Debian's debootstrap to update the meta... which I don't think I really need to update anyway === NCommander is now known as Guest57315 [03:57] cyphermox: Got it? :) [03:57] nearly done, last thing I do before going to bed [04:07] Yay [04:08] cyphermox: Don't pull a GitLab :P [04:08] the what? [04:08] (OK, that was mean, I'm sorry...) [04:08] cyphermox: GitLab imploded a few weeks ago because the sysadmin did something right before bed [04:09] well, it's exactly what I'm doing [04:09] \o/ [04:09] but I don't think it's much likely to explode too much [04:09] cyphermox: Good read after some sleep to get why that was a cruel joke. :P https://about.gitlab.com/2017/02/01/gitlab-dot-com-database-incident/ [04:12] tsimonq2: don't worry, I know enough about the Friday PM rule from years as a sysadmin before Canonical. [04:12] I've had my share of "oops, this system probably won't boot again if you stop it" [04:13] or weird pages during the night because some machine died... or the occasional lalala ran the wrong command on the wrong system and (all the network is down|I need to get to the datacenter to turn this back on) [04:14] Yyyeeeaaahhh :P [04:14] cyphermox: Ping me when you're done and I can respin Lubuntu images [04:15] tsimonq2: it's mostly done, the lubuntu-meta is building, but I don't think it's worth respinning right now [04:15] Oh? [04:15] my wild guess is that they should spin again very soon on the normal cron [04:15] cyphermox: Uhm, Beta 1 froze everything up, are you sure about that? [04:15] It's supposed to land tomorrow :P [04:18] cyphermox: Why not respin? [04:19] I'm not saying "you should not", more like "you're probably not helping, it should spin again". [04:19] I'm not sure, but I don't think we stop spinning dailies for these milestones [04:19] Ah k [04:20] cyphermox: Yes we do :P [04:20] you got that stopped on Sunday? [04:21] Yep [04:21] cyphermox: Blame Laney :P [04:21] okay then [04:21] :) [04:21] the alternate isn't stopped though [04:21] Uh WHAT? [04:21] oh wait [04:21] You sure?!? [04:22] sorry, that's my bad, it might well be, just got respun a lot more than the desktop one [04:22] I see [04:22] Yep, that's accurate [04:22] full disclosure: I'm not in the release team, I don't have access to see the crontab, I can only deduce from what I see in logs, etc. [04:22] it doesn't really say if it's a cron [04:23] Got it ;) [04:27] heh, since I modified stuff, I might as well babysit this for a bit [04:27] you might not want to respin for a few minutes, I updated lubuntu-meta, you might as well wait for it to be out of -proposed before respinning. [04:28] Ok [04:28] cyphermox: Do you have the ability to let it pass? [04:29] it needs to take the time to be seen by britney [04:29] Ok [04:29] ETA ~30 minutes, maybe? [04:30] Alright, I'll keep an eye on it. [04:31] cyphermox: Thanks. :) [05:04] tsimonq2: ok, lubuntu-meta shows up, but it's obviously blocked by freeze. I can't unblock that, you'll need to ask someone else [05:05] you can probably still respin and things would work [05:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: network-manager-openvpn (xenial-proposed/universe) [1.1.93-1ubuntu1 => 1.1.93-1ubuntu1.1] (no packageset) [05:17] cyphermox: Ok [05:37] ARCHIVE ADMINS: please someone let lubuntu-meta through, and when you do, respin Lubuntu Zesty Beta 1 Alternate *and* Desktop images. [05:43] tsimonq2: ftr you need release team, not archive admins [05:43] (unblocked) [05:54] slangasek: Ah yes it's 11 PM so yeah :P [05:54] slangasek: I want someone else pressing buttons this late :P [05:55] (and yet I'm writing an English essay, procrastination is awesome >__< [05:55] ) [06:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (trusty-proposed/main) [3.13.0-111.158] (core, kernel) [06:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (trusty-proposed) [3.13.0-111.158] === maclin1 is now known as maclin [08:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.22.3 => 2.22.6] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server) [08:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (yakkety-proposed/main) [2.22.3+16.10 => 2.22.6+16.10] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server) [08:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (trusty-proposed/universe) [2.22.3~14.04 => 2.22.6~14.04] (no packageset) [09:06] tsimonq2: less of the gratuitous blaming please [09:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been updated (20170223) [09:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been updated (20170223) [10:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been updated (20170223) [10:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been updated (20170223) [10:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (trusty-proposed/main) [1.11.8-0ubuntu0.3 => 1.11.8-0ubuntu0.4] (ubuntu-desktop) [10:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (yakkety-proposed/main) [1.13.4-3 => 1.13.4-3ubuntu0.1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server) [10:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (xenial-proposed/main) [1.13.4-1ubuntu1.1 => 1.13.4-1ubuntu1.2] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server) [12:25] Laney: I apologize, I meant it as a joke. [12:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready [12:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready [12:27] tsimonq2: Ok, np, I saw a lot of reacting to a false claim that the builds weren't stopped [12:32] Laney: Got it, I was casually joking around ;) [12:33] nod [12:37] tsimonq2: So ... on topic [12:37] Yes... :) [12:37] if everyone gets ready in the next 5 hours then I can release before I finish working [12:38] otherwise, a few hours after that I'll be around again [12:38] maybe you can do some hassling [12:39] think some people would like the freeze to be lifted :-) [12:39] sakrecoer: Looks like Ubuntu Studio needs some testing yet, if you could take a look, that would be wonderful. :) [12:40] Laney: Oh that's right, you're in the UK, by the time I get out of school, it'll already be late for you... :/ [12:41] Well, I think I can make something work. I have lunch at 11:35ish PM CST, we can release then? [12:44] that's a late lunch [12:44] Not really for local time ;) [12:44] do you mean UTC? [12:45] No, I didn't convert it, hold on [12:46] * Laney is confused [12:46] Laney: s/11:35ish PM/17:35ish UTC/ [12:46] Anyway, you don't have to be there [12:46] Oh? [12:46] If they're ready when I'm around then I can push buttons [12:46] and you just send some announcement email whenever [12:46] Ok cool [12:46] Alright :) [12:46] Just get them marked on the tracker [12:46] and I think you mean 11:35 AM [12:46] Ah yes gah :P [12:47] Off to school I go, ttyl o/ [13:25] Hi, jbicha, flexiondotorg, could you help to upload the ukui-menu(bug #1664229) or ukui-indicators(bug #1664232)? We are waiting for this to decide what to do next.Thank you! [13:25] bug 1664229 in Ubuntu Kylin "[FFe] ukui-menu" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1664229 [13:25] bug 1664232 in Ubuntu Kylin "[FFe] ukui-indicators" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1664232 [13:30] Laney Any chance you could help handsome_feng out with the UKUI uploads for Ubuntu Kylin? [13:51] flexiondotorg: Not right this second, maybe later ... [13:51] Aren't there like 7 packageS? [13:51] That's quite an ask [13:54] Thanks, flexiondotorg, Laney, Maybe you can upload one or two packages first in these two days? [14:19] is there anyone around who can accept new packages into stable releases? we're starting to run out of time for bug 1652537 [14:19] bug 1652537 in chrome-gnome-shell (Ubuntu Xenial) "Update chrome-gnome-shell to version 8 in all supported releases" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1652537 [14:42] sil2100: were you looking at this? ^ [14:42] W [14:42] Or was that on the basis that Yakkety already had the package? [14:43] Let me remind myself of the context for that one [14:43] Yeah, so that one had a yakkety release already, so it was just a matter of reviewing the SRU [14:43] But I have no formal power to accept NEW packages [14:44] So it would have to have some real archive admin looking into that [14:45] If we did have the formal power, would there be anything in Launchpad stopping us? [14:45] Because this came up with the letsencrypt stuff too. And we expect to be backporting more stuff back generally with the new feature exception. [14:46] So it might be worth asking the TB to give us the formal power when the package is a straight backport from the development release (since it'd have had AA eyes on it already). [14:46] One caveat might be that the interactions with other packages may be different for a previous release, so we would need to check that. [14:47] It might be reasonable to conclude that AA eyes *are* required. But at least then we'll know and not be stuck in limbo. [14:52] I believe slangasek accepted snapd into trusty, but is he the only one that can do this? [15:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected gnome-recipes [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.12.0-0ubuntu1] [15:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted networking-bgpvpn [source] (zesty-proposed) [5.0.0-0ubuntu1] [15:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted networking-bagpipe [source] (zesty-proposed) [6.0.0-0ubuntu1] [15:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted os-faults [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.1.10-0ubuntu1] [15:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: os-faults [amd64] (zesty-proposed/none) [0.1.10-0ubuntu1] (no packageset) [15:32] sil2100: Pretty sure you do have the power [15:32] I know I can do NEWing for -backports [15:32] Power, yes, formal permission, no [15:32] You said "formal power"... [15:33] Yeah, formalities I mean in overall [15:33] For now I'm only to use this for kernel SRU purposes [15:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: networking-bagpipe [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [6.0.0-0ubuntu1] (no packageset) [15:34] 'k, I see what you mean === gaughen_ is now known as gaughen [15:35] I think that the TB's delegation includes NEWing things as appropriate, but maybe that's just me :P [15:37] We should just ask the TB. [15:37] Then we'd know. [15:37] especially if none of the active SRU members are full AAs [15:38] Which packages raise this question? chrome-gnome-shell, letsencrypt, anything else? [15:38] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+queue?queue_state=0 [15:38] Do what you want, obviously. [15:38] I'm also trying to get flatpak (with ostree and bubblewrap) into xenial [15:40] flatpak also would be better with xdg-desktop-portal and xdg-desktop-portal-gtk so I'll probably work on those once these others are done [15:44] technical-board@ email sent. [15:48] hi cjwatson , can I sync acct? the delta says: "Remove stop links from rc0 and rc6." [15:48] is this still a problem with systemd? I guess this was an upstart issue [15:56] no time to look this week, sorry. [15:56] that sort of change was generally from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teardown [15:56] I don't know what effect it has with systemd [16:09] asked pitti on -devel :) [16:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready [16:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready [17:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted puppet [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4.5.2-1ubuntu1.1] [17:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted puppet [source] (xenial-proposed) [3.8.5-2ubuntu0.1] [17:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted desktop-file-utils [source] (yakkety-proposed) [0.23-1ubuntu1.1] [17:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted desktop-file-utils [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.22-1ubuntu5.1] [17:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pg-repack [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.3.4-1ubuntu0.1] [17:43] Could we please get some testers on Lubuntu and Ubuntu Studio for Zesty Beta 1? [17:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lxd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.8-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1 => 2.0.9-0ubuntu1~16.04.2] (edubuntu, ubuntu-server) [17:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sssd [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.13.4-3ubuntu0.1] [17:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sssd [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.13.4-1ubuntu1.2] [17:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sssd [source] (trusty-proposed) [1.11.8-0ubuntu0.4] [17:52] Laney: So I guess it'll be a few hours? [17:52] Well, not everybody is ready, so ... [17:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected lxd [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.0.9-0ubuntu1~16.04.2] [17:55] Laney: I'll be leaving in 15 mins, be back for 4 PM CST [17:56] I'll just publish whatever is ready in 4 hours or so [17:56] Others can have a late release if they want it, but the freeze will be lifted then [17:56] When Lubuntu is fully tested, you have my permission to mark as ready [17:56] Gotcha [17:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted wine1.6 [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:1.6.2-0ubuntu14.2] [17:57] (not that you need my permission :P) [17:57] tsimonq2: get some testers> you're also asking this question in the flavor community channels, right? [17:57] slangasek: Yep [17:57] ok [17:57] next time around - I'll try and be the community lead if laney is doing the canonical bits - might help some to have same timezone [17:58] flocculant: Good idea [17:58] tsimonq2: it's no problem for you to ask here, just want to make sure the flavor communities are on board with doing this milestone since it's their responsibility to do the testing :) [17:58] slangasek: Yep ;) [17:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lxd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.8-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1 => 2.0.9-0ubuntu1~16.04.2] (edubuntu, ubuntu-server) [17:59] I'm the Lubuntu guy now, I've been trying... [18:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lxd [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.0.9-0ubuntu1~16.04.2] [18:05] bdmurray: wow, that's express service, I didn't even see it hit the queue before you accepted it! Thanks! :) [18:08] stgraber: just a coincidence! is there going to be one for trusty? [18:09] bdmurray: LXD in trusty is in -backports so I'll just backport the xenial package once it hits updates [18:10] stgraber: okay [18:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gce-compute-image-packages (trusty-proposed/universe) [20160930-0ubuntu3~14.04.0 => 20160930-0ubuntu3~14.04.1] (ubuntu-cloud) [19:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready === lamont` is now known as lamont [20:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-lts-trusty [amd64] (precise-proposed/main) [3.13.0-111.158~precise1] (kernel) [21:10] Laney: Clear for launch ;) [21:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready [21:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready [21:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready [21:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready [21:18] tsimonq2: Righto, let's get started then [21:19] * Laney thanks past slangasek for fixing publish-image-set wrt budgie [21:24] Laney: Awesome :) [21:25] Laney: I'll be home in 30, I'll send the announcement right away [21:30] Unlikely to be quite that fast [21:30] but you can start writing it [21:31] sakrecoer: tsimonq2: Ubuntu Studio is ready for amd64 only, FYI [21:31] Ok [21:31] Laney: On mobile? :/ [21:32] Can publish that one later if necessary [21:32] Or just leave it out [21:32] I think it's sakrecoer's or Rosco2's choice ^^^^ [21:33] Sure [21:33] I'm going to lift the freeze now too [21:35] Laney: hey, why doesn't present slangasek get any credit [21:36] slangasek: were you present and correct :) [21:38] Any credit is strictly time limited and must be redeemed within 10ns [21:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted binutils [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.26.1-1ubuntu1~16.04.4] [22:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready [22:35] * tsimonq2 verifies everything is published [22:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapd [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.22.6+16.10] [22:42] Laney, infinity, slangasek: Am I just too impatient, or is Ubuntu Budgie not publishing correctly? [22:46] The first one. === NCommander is now known as Guest76098 [22:56] Laney: Aaaaha [22:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: thermald (yakkety-proposed/main) [1.5.3-4 => 1.5.3-5] (core) [23:14] Laney: Are you publishing Ubuntu Studio i386? It's marked as ready. [23:14] * tsimonq2 is waiting to send the announcement until all the images show up [23:16] Already done [23:16] You should in fact wait for me to tell you I've finished :P [23:17] Waiting for the last thing [23:20] ok [23:38] tsimonq2: ok, once studio appears you can go [23:39] Laney: Ok, sleep well ;) [23:40] ah, what great timing, there it is [23:40] night [23:40] oh I should say - cron builds are back on and the milestone is marked as released [23:40] -> back to dailies [23:41] Yay ok thanks :)