[00:02] <nacc> slangasek: i think we can hold off -- i'm genuinely not sure on the behavioral changes -- we are going from a 5.24.1~rc4 upstream to 5.24.1. I think it's ok to hold it
[00:03] <nacc> well, I said that twice as I gathered my thoughts :)
[00:06] <nacc> slangasek: the only thing i've yet to fully track down is the libaws/liblog4ada regression on p/z only. It's not just a rebuild needed (or if it is, it's a rebuild needed of several packages). I've shot an e-mail off to doko  and will try and get it resolved.
[00:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: wine1.6 (xenial-proposed/universe) [1:1.6.2-0ubuntu14.1 => 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu14.2] (no packageset)
[02:07] <tsimonq2> Laney, slangasek, and infinity: Bug 1667128 might be blocking Beta 1 for Lubuntu and I don't have access to the seed, and I haven't confirmed it's a bug because I don't have a laptop, so if it could get confirmed and fixed by a wonderful, kind person, I can add a beer tally. ;)
[02:08] <tsimonq2> (Oxford comma ftw, hah pleia2 :P)
[03:28] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: ok, I can do that
[03:31] <cyphermox> xserver-xorg-input-all recommends -synaptics already (Timo added it) but lubuntu doesn't follow recommends.
[03:37] <Ukikie> Causes a lot of headaches, but it does limit the junk they pull in. :/
[03:39] <cyphermox> well, scrolling is kinda helpful.
[03:40] <cyphermox> I tend to question whether stuff some people classify as junk really is worth the hassle, but it's definitely not my call ;)
[03:42] <cyphermox> /usr/bin/germinate-update-metapackage: Installed debootstrap is older than in the previous version! (1.0.81ubuntu3 < 1.0.86)
[03:42] <cyphermox> o.O?
[03:45] <cyphermox> ah, pitti was naughty and used Debian's debootstrap to update the meta... which I don't think I really need to update anyway
[03:57] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: Got it? :)
[03:57] <cyphermox> nearly done, last thing I do before going to bed
[04:07] <tsimonq2> Yay
[04:08] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: Don't pull a GitLab :P
[04:08] <cyphermox> the what?
[04:08] <tsimonq2> (OK, that was mean, I'm sorry...)
[04:08] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: GitLab imploded a few weeks ago because the sysadmin did something right before bed
[04:09] <cyphermox> well, it's exactly what I'm doing
[04:09] <Ukikie> \o/
[04:09] <cyphermox> but I don't think it's much likely to explode too much
[04:09] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: Good read after some sleep to get why that was a cruel joke. :P https://about.gitlab.com/2017/02/01/gitlab-dot-com-database-incident/
[04:12] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: don't worry, I know enough about the Friday PM rule from years as a sysadmin before Canonical.
[04:12] <cyphermox> I've had my share of "oops, this system probably won't boot again if you stop it"
[04:13] <cyphermox> or weird pages during the night because some machine died... or the occasional lalala ran the wrong command on the wrong system and (all the network is down|I need to get to the datacenter to turn this back on)
[04:14] <tsimonq2> Yyyeeeaaahhh :P
[04:14] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: Ping me when you're done and I can respin Lubuntu images
[04:15] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: it's mostly done, the lubuntu-meta is building, but I don't think it's worth respinning right now
[04:15] <tsimonq2> Oh?
[04:15] <cyphermox> my wild guess is that they should spin again very soon on the normal cron
[04:15] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: Uhm, Beta 1 froze everything up, are you sure about that?
[04:15] <tsimonq2> It's supposed to land tomorrow :P
[04:18] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: Why not respin?
[04:19] <cyphermox> I'm not saying "you should not", more like "you're probably not helping, it should spin again".
[04:19] <cyphermox> I'm not sure, but I don't think we stop spinning dailies for these milestones
[04:19] <tsimonq2> Ah k
[04:20] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: Yes we do :P
[04:20] <cyphermox> you got that stopped on Sunday?
[04:21] <tsimonq2> Yep
[04:21] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: Blame Laney :P
[04:21] <cyphermox> okay then
[04:21] <tsimonq2> :)
[04:21] <cyphermox> the alternate isn't stopped though
[04:21] <tsimonq2> Uh WHAT?
[04:21] <cyphermox> oh wait
[04:21] <tsimonq2> You sure?!?
[04:22] <cyphermox> sorry, that's my bad, it might well be, just got respun a lot more than the desktop one
[04:22] <tsimonq2> I see
[04:22] <tsimonq2> Yep, that's accurate
[04:22] <cyphermox> full disclosure: I'm not in the release team, I don't have access to see the crontab, I can only deduce from what I see in logs, etc.
[04:22] <cyphermox> it doesn't really say if it's a cron
[04:23] <tsimonq2> Got it ;)
[04:27] <cyphermox> heh, since I modified stuff, I might as well babysit this for a bit
[04:27] <cyphermox> you might not want to respin for a few minutes, I updated lubuntu-meta, you might as well wait for it to be out of -proposed before respinning.
[04:28] <tsimonq2> Ok
[04:28] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: Do you have the ability to let it pass?
[04:29] <cyphermox> it needs to take the time to be seen by britney
[04:29] <tsimonq2> Ok
[04:29] <cyphermox> ETA ~30 minutes, maybe?
[04:30] <tsimonq2> Alright, I'll keep an eye on it.
[04:31] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: Thanks. :)
[05:04] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: ok, lubuntu-meta shows up, but it's obviously blocked by freeze. I can't unblock that, you'll need to ask someone else
[05:05] <cyphermox> you can probably still respin and things would work
[05:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: network-manager-openvpn (xenial-proposed/universe) [1.1.93-1ubuntu1 => 1.1.93-1ubuntu1.1] (no packageset)
[05:17] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: Ok
[05:37] <tsimonq2> ARCHIVE ADMINS: please someone let lubuntu-meta through, and when you do, respin Lubuntu Zesty Beta 1 Alternate *and* Desktop images.
[05:43] <slangasek> tsimonq2: ftr you need release team, not archive admins
[05:43] <slangasek> (unblocked)
[05:54] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Ah yes it's 11 PM so yeah :P
[05:54] <tsimonq2> slangasek: I want someone else pressing buttons this late :P
[05:55] <tsimonq2> (and yet I'm writing an English essay, procrastination is awesome >__<
[05:55] <tsimonq2> )
[06:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (trusty-proposed/main) [3.13.0-111.158] (core, kernel)
[06:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (trusty-proposed) [3.13.0-111.158]
[08:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.22.3 => 2.22.6] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[08:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (yakkety-proposed/main) [2.22.3+16.10 => 2.22.6+16.10] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[08:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: snapd (trusty-proposed/universe) [2.22.3~14.04 => 2.22.6~14.04] (no packageset)
[09:06] <Laney> tsimonq2: less of the gratuitous blaming please
[09:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been updated (20170223)
[09:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been updated (20170223)
[10:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been updated (20170223)
[10:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been updated (20170223)
[10:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (trusty-proposed/main) [1.11.8-0ubuntu0.3 => 1.11.8-0ubuntu0.4] (ubuntu-desktop)
[10:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (yakkety-proposed/main) [1.13.4-3 => 1.13.4-3ubuntu0.1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[10:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (xenial-proposed/main) [1.13.4-1ubuntu1.1 => 1.13.4-1ubuntu1.2] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[12:25] <tsimonq2> Laney: I apologize, I meant it as a joke.
[12:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready
[12:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready
[12:27] <Laney> tsimonq2: Ok, np, I saw a lot of reacting to a false claim that the builds weren't stopped
[12:32] <tsimonq2> Laney: Got it, I was casually joking around ;)
[12:33] <Laney> nod
[12:37] <Laney> tsimonq2: So ... on topic
[12:37] <tsimonq2> Yes... :)
[12:37] <Laney> if everyone gets ready in the next 5 hours then I can release before I finish working
[12:38] <Laney> otherwise, a few hours after that I'll be around again
[12:38] <Laney> maybe you can do some hassling
[12:39] <Laney> think some people would like the freeze to be lifted :-)
[12:39] <tsimonq2> sakrecoer: Looks like Ubuntu Studio needs some testing yet, if you could take a look, that would be wonderful. :)
[12:40] <tsimonq2> Laney: Oh that's right, you're in the UK, by the time I get out of school, it'll already be late for you... :/
[12:41] <tsimonq2> Well, I think I can make something work. I have lunch at 11:35ish PM CST, we can release then?
[12:44] <Laney> that's a late lunch
[12:44] <tsimonq2> Not really for local time ;)
[12:44] <Laney> do you mean UTC?
[12:45] <tsimonq2> No, I didn't convert it, hold on
[12:46]  * Laney is confused
[12:46] <tsimonq2> Laney: s/11:35ish PM/17:35ish UTC/
[12:46] <Laney> Anyway, you don't have to be there
[12:46] <tsimonq2> Oh?
[12:46] <Laney> If they're ready when I'm around then I can push buttons
[12:46] <Laney> and you just send some announcement email whenever
[12:46] <tsimonq2> Ok cool
[12:46] <tsimonq2> Alright :)
[12:46] <Laney> Just get them marked on the tracker
[12:46] <Laney> and I think you mean 11:35 AM
[12:46] <tsimonq2> Ah yes gah :P
[12:47] <tsimonq2> Off to school I go, ttyl o/
[13:25] <handsome_feng> Hi, jbicha, flexiondotorg, could you help to upload the ukui-menu(bug #1664229) or ukui-indicators(bug #1664232)? We are waiting for this to decide what to do next.Thank you!
[13:30] <flexiondotorg> Laney Any chance you could help handsome_feng out with the UKUI uploads for Ubuntu Kylin?
[13:51] <Laney> flexiondotorg: Not right this second, maybe later ...
[13:51] <Laney> Aren't there like 7 packageS?
[13:51] <Laney> That's quite an ask
[13:54] <handsome_feng> Thanks, flexiondotorg, Laney, Maybe you can upload one or two packages first in these two days?
[14:19] <jbicha> is there anyone around who can accept new packages into stable releases? we're starting to run out of time for bug 1652537
[14:42] <rbasak> sil2100: were you looking at this? ^
[14:42] <rbasak> W
[14:42] <rbasak> Or was that on the basis that Yakkety already had the package?
[14:43] <sil2100> Let me remind myself of the context for that one
[14:43] <sil2100> Yeah, so that one had a yakkety release already, so it was just a matter of reviewing the SRU
[14:43] <sil2100> But I have no formal power to accept NEW packages
[14:44] <sil2100> So it would have to have some real archive admin looking into that
[14:45] <rbasak> If we did have the formal power, would there be anything in Launchpad stopping us?
[14:45] <rbasak> Because this came up with the letsencrypt stuff too. And we expect to be backporting more stuff back generally with the new feature exception.
[14:46] <rbasak> So it might be worth asking the TB to give us the formal power when the package is a straight backport from the development release (since it'd have had AA eyes on it already).
[14:46] <rbasak> One caveat might be that the interactions with other packages may be different for a previous release, so we would need to check that.
[14:47] <rbasak> It might be reasonable to conclude that AA eyes *are* required. But at least then we'll know and not be stuck in limbo.
[14:52] <jbicha> I believe slangasek accepted snapd into trusty, but is he the only one that can do this?
[15:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected gnome-recipes [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.12.0-0ubuntu1]
[15:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted networking-bgpvpn [source] (zesty-proposed) [5.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[15:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted networking-bagpipe [source] (zesty-proposed) [6.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[15:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted os-faults [source] (zesty-proposed) [0.1.10-0ubuntu1]
[15:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: os-faults [amd64] (zesty-proposed/none) [0.1.10-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[15:32] <Laney> sil2100: Pretty sure you do have the power
[15:32] <Laney> I know I can do NEWing for -backports
[15:32] <sil2100> Power, yes, formal permission, no
[15:32] <Laney> You said "formal power"...
[15:33] <sil2100> Yeah, formalities I mean in overall
[15:33] <sil2100> For now I'm only to use this for kernel SRU purposes
[15:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: networking-bagpipe [amd64] (zesty-proposed/universe) [6.0.0-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[15:34] <Laney> 'k, I see what you mean
[15:35] <Laney> I think that the TB's delegation includes NEWing things as appropriate, but maybe that's just me :P
[15:37] <rbasak> We should just ask the TB.
[15:37] <rbasak> Then we'd know.
[15:37] <jbicha> especially if none of the active SRU members are full AAs
[15:38] <rbasak> Which packages raise this question? chrome-gnome-shell, letsencrypt, anything else?
[15:38] <jbicha> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+queue?queue_state=0
[15:38] <Laney> Do what you want, obviously.
[15:38] <jbicha> I'm also trying to get flatpak (with ostree and bubblewrap) into xenial
[15:40] <jbicha> flatpak also would be better with xdg-desktop-portal and xdg-desktop-portal-gtk so I'll probably work on those once these others are done
[15:44] <rbasak> technical-board@ email sent.
[15:48] <LocutusOfBorg> hi cjwatson , can I sync acct? the delta says: "Remove stop links from rc0 and rc6."
[15:48] <LocutusOfBorg> is this still a problem with systemd? I guess this was an upstart issue
[15:56] <cjwatson> no time to look this week, sorry.
[15:56] <cjwatson> that sort of change was generally from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Teardown
[15:56] <cjwatson> I don't know what effect it has with systemd
[16:09] <LocutusOfBorg> asked pitti on -devel :)
[16:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready
[16:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready
[17:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted puppet [source] (yakkety-proposed) [4.5.2-1ubuntu1.1]
[17:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted puppet [source] (xenial-proposed) [3.8.5-2ubuntu0.1]
[17:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted desktop-file-utils [source] (yakkety-proposed) [0.23-1ubuntu1.1]
[17:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted desktop-file-utils [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.22-1ubuntu5.1]
[17:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pg-repack [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.3.4-1ubuntu0.1]
[17:43] <tsimonq2> Could we please get some testers on Lubuntu and Ubuntu Studio for Zesty Beta 1?
[17:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lxd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.8-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1 => 2.0.9-0ubuntu1~16.04.2] (edubuntu, ubuntu-server)
[17:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sssd [source] (yakkety-proposed) [1.13.4-3ubuntu0.1]
[17:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sssd [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.13.4-1ubuntu1.2]
[17:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sssd [source] (trusty-proposed) [1.11.8-0ubuntu0.4]
[17:52] <tsimonq2> Laney: So I guess it'll be a few hours?
[17:52] <Laney> Well, not everybody is ready, so ...
[17:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected lxd [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.0.9-0ubuntu1~16.04.2]
[17:55] <tsimonq2> Laney: I'll be leaving in 15 mins, be back for 4 PM CST
[17:56] <Laney> I'll just publish whatever is ready in 4 hours or so
[17:56] <Laney> Others can have a late release if they want it, but the freeze will be lifted then
[17:56] <tsimonq2> When Lubuntu is fully tested, you have my permission to mark as ready
[17:56] <tsimonq2> Gotcha
[17:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted wine1.6 [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:1.6.2-0ubuntu14.2]
[17:57] <tsimonq2> (not that you need my permission :P)
[17:57] <slangasek> tsimonq2: get some testers> you're also asking this question in the flavor community channels, right?
[17:57] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Yep
[17:57] <slangasek> ok
[17:57] <flocculant> next time around - I'll try and be the community lead if laney is doing the canonical bits - might help some to have same timezone
[17:58] <tsimonq2> flocculant: Good idea
[17:58] <slangasek> tsimonq2: it's no problem for you to ask here, just want to make sure the flavor communities are on board with doing this milestone since it's their responsibility to do the testing :)
[17:58] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Yep ;)
[17:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lxd (xenial-proposed/main) [2.8-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04.1 => 2.0.9-0ubuntu1~16.04.2] (edubuntu, ubuntu-server)
[17:59] <tsimonq2> I'm the Lubuntu guy now, I've been trying...
[18:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lxd [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.0.9-0ubuntu1~16.04.2]
[18:05] <stgraber> bdmurray: wow, that's express service, I didn't even see it hit the queue before you accepted it! Thanks! :)
[18:08] <bdmurray> stgraber: just a coincidence! is there going to be one for trusty?
[18:09] <stgraber> bdmurray: LXD in trusty is in -backports so I'll just backport the xenial package once it hits updates
[18:10] <bdmurray> stgraber: okay
[18:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gce-compute-image-packages (trusty-proposed/universe) [20160930-0ubuntu3~14.04.0 => 20160930-0ubuntu3~14.04.1] (ubuntu-cloud)
[19:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready
[20:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-lts-trusty [amd64] (precise-proposed/main) [3.13.0-111.158~precise1] (kernel)
[21:10] <tsimonq2> Laney: Clear for launch ;)
[21:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready
[21:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready
[21:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready
[21:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Alternate i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready
[21:18] <Laney> tsimonq2: Righto, let's get started then
[21:19]  * Laney thanks past slangasek for fixing publish-image-set wrt budgie
[21:24] <tsimonq2> Laney: Awesome :)
[21:25] <tsimonq2> Laney: I'll be home in 30, I'll send the announcement right away
[21:30] <Laney> Unlikely to be quite that fast
[21:30] <Laney> but you can start writing it
[21:31] <Laney> sakrecoer: tsimonq2: Ubuntu Studio is ready for amd64 only, FYI
[21:31] <tsimonq2> Ok
[21:31] <tsimonq2> Laney: On mobile? :/
[21:32] <Laney> Can publish that one later if necessary
[21:32] <Laney> Or just leave it out
[21:32] <tsimonq2> I think it's sakrecoer's or Rosco2's choice ^^^^
[21:33] <Laney> Sure
[21:33] <Laney> I'm going to lift the freeze now too
[21:35] <slangasek> Laney: hey, why doesn't present slangasek get any credit
[21:36] <flocculant> slangasek: were you present and correct :)
[21:38] <Laney> Any credit is strictly time limited and must be redeemed within 10ns
[21:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted binutils [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.26.1-1ubuntu1~16.04.4]
[22:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD i386 [Zesty Beta 1] has been marked as ready
[22:35]  * tsimonq2 verifies everything is published
[22:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted snapd [source] (yakkety-proposed) [2.22.6+16.10]
[22:42] <tsimonq2> Laney, infinity, slangasek: Am I just too impatient, or is Ubuntu Budgie not publishing correctly?
[22:46] <Laney> The first one.
[22:56] <tsimonq2> Laney: Aaaaha
[22:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: thermald (yakkety-proposed/main) [1.5.3-4 => 1.5.3-5] (core)
[23:14] <tsimonq2> Laney: Are you publishing Ubuntu Studio i386? It's marked as ready.
[23:14]  * tsimonq2 is waiting to send the announcement until all the images show up
[23:16] <Laney> Already done
[23:16] <Laney> You should in fact wait for me to tell you I've finished :P
[23:17] <Laney> Waiting for the last thing
[23:20] <tsimonq2> ok
[23:38] <Laney> tsimonq2: ok, once studio appears you can go
[23:39] <tsimonq2> Laney: Ok, sleep well ;)
[23:40] <Laney> ah, what great timing, there it is
[23:40] <Laney> night
[23:40] <Laney> oh I should say - cron builds are back on and the milestone is marked as released
[23:40] <Laney> -> back to dailies
[23:41] <tsimonq2> Yay ok thanks :)