[00:17] <floridagram> <Abrerr> So tails with apps?
[00:18] <floridagram> <Abrerr> Not that I'd use TOR for anything personal
[00:18] <floridagram> <Abrerr> There's also https://susestudio.com/
[11:02] <floridagram> <Ivoriesablaze> @KMyers was that the Windows 10 computer used for that challenge?
[12:31] <floridagram> <KMyers> Yes
[12:35] <floridagram> <KMyers> @Ivoriesablaze, It was
[16:10] <floridagram> <KMyers> Oh crap - https://security.googleblog.com/2017/02/announcing-first-sha1-collision.html
[18:07] <floridagram> <SivaMachina> No body should be using that anyway. Outdated crypto.
[18:07] <floridagram> <SivaMachina> It's*
[18:08] <floridagram> <KMyers> @SivaMachina, It was only considered outdated because a theoretical collision may be possible in the future (of course that day is today)
[18:10] <floridagram> <SivaMachina> Which makes the idea it should be considered outdated correct.
[18:10] <floridagram> <SivaMachina> In the first place
[18:11] <floridagram> <KMyers> @SivaMachina, Correct, however "a theoretical attack in the future" may not be enough for some companies to migrate.
[18:11] <floridagram> <AdamOutler> Hey, I checked that and the sha1s match..  but the md5s don't.
[18:12] <floridagram> <KMyers> @AdamOutler, Why would they? Different hashing algorithms
[18:12] <floridagram> <AdamOutler> The obvious conclusion is we should all use md5sum over sha1sum
[18:15] <floridagram> <KMyers> @AdamOutler, MD5 is less secure. Collisions are possible on today's mid-level hardware and the algorithm is too fast. Hashing should take a small amount of time on typical hardware
[18:16] <floridagram> <KMyers> I do personally use md5 for a lot of things that need to be fast, with the understanding that it is not as secure. It is great for minor sanity checks but if there is anything that needs a greater level of security, I use sha256
[18:17] <floridagram> <AdamOutler> I'm disappointed, Keith.  That was prime opportunity for some sort of insulting quip
[18:18] <floridagram> <AdamOutler> I was expecting you to take that opportunity to get me back for making all of G+ laugh and point at you
[18:18] <floridagram> <KMyers> For example, I have a script that monitors changes in one of my development environments. It uses md5 checksums. No need to use SHA256 (it would take the sanity check from a minute to over 30)
[19:01] <floridagram> <SivaMachina> @AdamOutler, The problem is that you were expecting it. You are not supposed to expect it. Much like the Spanish Inquisition.
[21:45] <locodir-luser> success!
[21:45] <floridagram> <AdamOutler> ?
[21:48] <locodir-luser> YUMI + Complete iso of ubuntu-16.04 + friendly neighbors wifi = success
[21:48] <locodir-luser> I banged my head against the wall for hours last night trying to get this working of my flash drive
[21:48] <floridagram> <KMyers> whisperit2me ?
[21:49] <locodir-luser> today I realised that my copy of 16.10 was 1% incomplete and would not usb boot
=== locodir-luser is now known as Iuser
[21:53] <floridagram> <SivaMachina> Why use Tumi?
[21:53] <floridagram> <SivaMachina> Tumi*
[21:53] <floridagram> <SivaMachina> Yumi
[21:53] <floridagram> <SivaMachina> Dang you autocorrect
[21:54] <floridagram> <SivaMachina> Anyways. I suggest using Etcher
[21:55] <floridagram> <SivaMachina> https://etcher.io
[21:56] <Iuser> Thanks
[21:56] <Iuser> can I ask your reason for etcher?
[21:59] <floridagram> <SivaMachina> So far it is the most reliable GUI I have found for burning an iso to a USB.
[22:00] <floridagram> <SivaMachina> That and the GUI is simple
[22:00] <Iuser> Gotcha, the ubuntu website suggested YUMI
[22:00] <Iuser> I have much to learn
[22:00] <floridagram> <SivaMachina> They need to update it.
[22:01] <Iuser> I need to go now but now that I know this channel exists, I'll be back
[22:02] <floridagram> <SivaMachina> Ok