[00:00] <mellowmaroon> When I did `apt upgrade`, it'
[00:00] <lotuspsychje> mellowmaroon: tell us whats going mate
[00:00] <mellowmaroon> woops. It'd hang on "dkms" post-install stuff
[00:01] <mellowmaroon> I read somewhere else it might be from using NVidia proprietary drivers, which I had on.
[00:01] <azizLIGHT> the only thing bothering me is the X update that comes with HWE stack
[00:02] <mellowmaroon> I guess my question is, how long should the DKMS thing be running?  It doesn't really give any indication of status...
[00:03] <mellowmaroon> Apart from apt's default bar, but that was stuck as it was trying to do the DKMS thing
[00:03] <yobagme_> mellowmaroon: how long did you let it sit at that point?
[00:03] <mellowmaroon> Probably 15-30 min
[00:04] <mellowmaroon> I had to wait for the same DKMS thing on my desktop (what I'm using now), but it only took like about a min
[00:06] <mellowmaroon> And I couldn't really use apt after that point, because it would keep wanting to continue the update
[00:06] <mellowmaroon> Like, when I forcibly quit
[00:07] <azizLIGHT> im trying to upgrade hwe stack, im on 14.04.5 with kernel 3.13.0-110-generic. i used command " sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-core-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-xenial xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-xenial libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-xenial libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-xenial libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-xenial:i386 libglapi-mesa-lts-xenial:i386 " and i
[00:07] <azizLIGHT> got error "E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." here is the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24049894/
[00:08] <nacc> azizLIGHT: are you fully dist-upgraded to start?
[00:08] <azizLIGHT> nacc: yes
[00:08] <mellowmaroon> @azizLIGHT: That also looks like output from apt-mark
[00:09] <mellowmaroon> azizLIGHT: like when you do "apt-mark hold xyz"
[00:09] <azizLIGHT> i dont think ive ever done that?
[00:10] <mellowmaroon> Ok, it might be that the system did it automatically then.  Just something to check out maybe
[00:10] <mellowmaroon> I'm not really sure, just noticed it was similar
[00:10] <azizLIGHT> nacc: i just did sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it installed 0 packages
[00:11] <azizLIGHT> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[00:13] <nacc> azizLIGHT: well i'm not able to help too much, you can try and manually install those 5 packages
[00:13] <nacc> azizLIGHT: if they install, then try the same HWE install command again
[00:14] <knob> any ebook text to speech recommended?
[00:15] <j4f-shredder> hey I'm reinstalling ubuntu 16.04
[00:15] <j4f-shredder> and when I go to partitions
[00:17] <j4f-shredder> I can see /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
[00:17] <j4f-shredder> is that normal?
[00:17] <j4f-shredder> I already erased everything
[00:17] <j4f-shredder> I just want to start from scracth..I will only use ubuntu
[00:17] <nacc> j4f-shredder: those aren't partitions, but disks, so y es, i fyou ahve two disks
[00:17] <j4f-shredder> I deleted windoes
[00:17] <Bashing-om> j4f-shredder: sda is 1st data device recongnized, sdb the 2nd .
[00:17] <gsilva> j4f-shredder, it doesn't matter as long as you have more than one drive plugged in
[00:17] <Saigaung> hello
[00:17] <klin> Hi
[00:17] <Saigaung> any brazillian guy?
[00:17] <j4f-shredder> noooo
[00:17] <j4f-shredder> I think I wiped my whole disk
[00:17] <j4f-shredder> is there any way of reverting this
[00:17] <j4f-shredder> I didn;t moved forward yet
[00:17] <k1l> !br | Saigaung
[00:17] <Saigaung> i am iniciant on english and ubuntu
[00:17] <Bashing-om> !recovery | j4f-shredder
[00:17] <j4f-shredder> nono
[00:17] <j4f-shredder> Im not trying to recover
[00:17] <gsilva> j4f-shredder, that is another issue. Regarding the two disks, I'd be worried if you couldn't find both there if you have two disks :D
[00:17] <nacc> j4f-shredder: if you wiped a disk, you can't really recover it
[00:17] <j4f-shredder> Im on the step
[00:17] <nacc> j4f-shredder: depends on what 'wipe' is
[00:17] <j4f-shredder> where you defined partitions
[00:17] <Bashing-om> j4f-shredder: Sorry wring factoid . , Wait one and I hunt up the reference .
[00:17] <j4f-shredder> and I havent confirmed
[00:17] <mellowmaroon> j4f-shredder: Are you trying to erase what's on the drive??
[00:17] <Saigaung> exit
[00:18] <j4f-shredder> I can see the sdb with all the partitions
[00:18] <j4f-shredder> and the hdd which is the sda but doesnt show anything
[00:18] <j4f-shredder> the hdd has only movies and data
[00:18] <j4f-shredder> the sdb shows the windows partition and the ubuntu one
[00:18] <mellowmaroon> j4f-shredder: Ok, choose which one you want Ubuntu to erase and replace
[00:19] <j4f-shredder> I want to erase everything from that partitionyes
[00:19] <mellowmaroon> j4f-shredder: So choose it
[00:19] <j4f-shredder> should I put create new partition table?
[00:19] <gsilva> delete Ubuntu + Windows partitions and create a new partition
[00:19] <mellowmaroon> j4f-shredder: Yeah, create a new partition table if you want to start from scratch
[00:19] <Bashing-om> j4f-shredder: ' sudo parted -l ' so you know which device is the install target !
[00:20] <j4f-shredder> now
[00:20] <j4f-shredder> which partitions should I create?
[00:20] <j4f-shredder> to do it the right way
[00:20] <j4f-shredder> for the swap zone, etc
[00:20] <j4f-shredder> I had troubles before for not doing this properly
[00:20] <j4f-shredder> that's why I'm asking
[00:21] <gsilva> depends on how much memory your PC has
[00:21] <j4f-shredder> 256 gb
[00:21] <j4f-shredder> ssd
[00:21] <gsilva> memory
[00:21] <j4f-shredder> 8 gb
[00:21] <gsilva> Ok, you might need then some swap space
[00:21] <j4f-shredder> but which partitions and in what order should I create them
[00:22] <nacc> how much memory you have does not determine if you need swap space on its own
[00:22] <j4f-shredder> I just want to know how the pro's do this thing
[00:22] <nacc> e.g., if you are never loading your system, then you don't need swap
[00:22] <j4f-shredder> I always mess up with this step
[00:22] <j4f-shredder> I use virtual machines
[00:22] <j4f-shredder> for android dev
[00:22] <nacc> the you probably want swap as you're liable to overcommit your host
[00:22] <gsilva> Create one partition of 8162 megabytes
[00:22] <gsilva> Create one partition of 8192 megabytes
[00:22] <gsilva> that will be swap
[00:23] <j4f-shredder> two partitions of 8196
[00:23] <j4f-shredder> or 1?
[00:23] <gsilva> No, sorry
[00:23] <nacc> gsilva: careful, if you say it that way, j4f-shredder will create two
[00:23] <gsilva> just one with 8192 megabytes
[00:23] <j4f-shredder> does the order matters?
[00:23] <gsilva> Yea, wanted to fix just the number but pressed enter accidentally. Apologies
[00:23] <gsilva> I don't think so. nacc, could you help here?
[00:23] <nacc> there has always been discussions about this, but for SSDs i don't think it matters
[00:24] <nacc> for rotating disks, there was some argument for putting it at the end of the disk
[00:24] <azizLIGHT> nacc: those packages installed but took like 100 mb :/
[00:24] <azizLIGHT> imma restart before i try hwe command again
[00:24] <azizLIGHT> brb
[00:24] <gsilva> which in this case is first the OS then Swap
[00:24] <gsilva> j4f-shredder, then create another partition with the remaining size and that is where you will install Ubuntu
[00:24] <j4f-shredder> its asking me for type of partition (Primary or logical) . Location of the new partition(Beggining of this space/end of this space . Use as: (swap area?) Mount point: ??
[00:25] <gsilva> In which step are you?
[00:25] <nacc> i think the default partitioning is probably sufficient for most people. I tend to use a single /, no swap and don't have a problem running VMs and containers
[00:25] <j4f-shredder> could you provide values for those options for both partitions?
[00:25] <gsilva> If you're creating the swap partition, tick the use as swap
[00:25] <nacc> they can both be primary, if you have nothing else
[00:25] <j4f-shredder> I dont have that option
[00:25] <j4f-shredder> I just need exact values
[00:25] <gsilva> you just wrote that
[00:25] <j4f-shredder> cause thats the hard part
[00:26] <nacc> gsilva: they were asking a question, i think, in the parens
[00:26] <nacc> j4f-shredder: use as: swap
[00:26] <j4f-shredder> type of partition (Primary or logical) . Location of the new partition(Beggining of this space/end of this space . Use as: (swap area?) Mount point:
[00:26] <nacc> j4f-shredder: don't put your thoughts in the quotes
[00:26] <nacc> j4f-shredder: it makes it impossible to help you
[00:26] <nacc> e.g., "(swap area?")
[00:26] <j4f-shredder> lets start with the beggining
[00:26] <nacc> j4f-shredder: we don't know if that's you or ubuntu saying that
[00:26] <gsilva> type: primary, location: beginning, use as: swap
[00:26] <j4f-shredder> nono, its ubuntu
[00:27] <j4f-shredder> except for the use as:
[00:27] <gsilva> The remaining part should disappear
[00:27] <nacc> j4f-shredder: right, as I *just* said.
[00:27] <j4f-shredder> which has other options like ext
[00:27] <nacc> j4f-shredder: so don't do that if you want efficient help...
[00:27] <gsilva> I don't recall which one to use... fat32 I think
[00:27] <nacc> for swap?
[00:27] <j4f-shredder> it left 1 mb before the swap
[00:27] <nacc> swap is its own fs type
[00:27] <j4f-shredder> is that normal?
[00:27] <gsilva> Oh, we're still in swap, sorry :D
[00:28] <gsilva> recovery stuff, yes
[00:28] <nacc> gsilva: and ext4 for the primary / partition
[00:28] <gsilva> for the other partition, repeat the process. use the remaining space, type: primary, location beginning, use as: nothing; mount point: /
[00:29] <gsilva> filesystem, ext4
[00:29] <gsilva> Yes, FAT32 is Windows, right?
[00:29] <nacc> j4f-shredder: again, at this point, i don't know why you didn't just take the default partitioning? I think it would be about the same
[00:29] <nacc> gsilva: yeah, old windows :)
[00:29] <gsilva> nacc, he might be afraid of deleting everything. I too feel the same way when formatting computers :3
[00:29] <j4f-shredder> cause I wanted to wipe out everything
[00:29] <gsilva> Thanks for pointing that out
[00:29] <j4f-shredder> I want to delete everything
[00:29] <nacc> gsilva: they are intentionally wiping everything
[00:29] <j4f-shredder> I will go back
[00:29] <j4f-shredder> and pick that option if its the same
[00:30] <gsilva> Didn't it have an option to delete everything in that partition?
[00:30] <gsilva> WAIt
[00:30] <nacc> right, i thought it did as well, gsilva
[00:30] <nacc> something like 'delete all partitions and take the default' or so
[00:30] <j4f-shredder> whats the difference of picking ext3 ext4 ext2 btrfs and so on
[00:30] <gsilva> j4f-shredder, it might delete your partition with movies and stuff
[00:30] <gsilva> Besides, you're already halfway through so just might as well finish it
[00:30]  * nacc was under the impression that j4f-shredder already did that by formatting that disk
[00:30] <nacc> j4f-shredder: they are different filesystems
[00:31] <j4f-shredder> the movies and stuff are on another hdd disk
[00:31] <j4f-shredder> the 1 tb one
[00:31] <j4f-shredder> this is the ssd
[00:31] <gsilva> nacc, no, he has two disks: One for media, one for OSs. He wants to delete everything from the OS disk and install Ubuntu and leave the other one has it is
[00:31] <j4f-shredder> yes
[00:31] <nacc> j4f-shredder: didn't you say something about not seeing any partitions under the other disk?
[00:31] <nacc> j4f-shredder: in this case, sda, that is
[00:31] <j4f-shredder> yes
[00:31] <j4f-shredder> sda has nothing listed under
[00:31] <nacc> gsilva: --^
[00:31] <nacc> gsilva: that's what i was referring to...
[00:32] <gsilva> j4f-shredder, not sure if this is the best tutorial or not but it might help pointing out what filesystems are: https://www.pctechguide.com/hard-disks/file-systems-fat-fat8-fat16-fat32-and-ntfs-explained
[00:32] <j4f-shredder> I just want to solve this, if I pick the default configuration
[00:32] <nacc> j4f-shredder: i would suggest one thing at a time, then -- that is, first reinstall, then see if you still have your other data
[00:32] <j4f-shredder> will it wipe out both disks?
[00:32] <nacc> j4f-shredder: only if you tell it to
[00:33] <gsilva> nacc, I usually do this manually to make sure I don't delete stuff I don't want to delete. So I am not entirely sure what that option will do
[00:33] <gsilva> So take it from here, please :)
[00:34] <nacc> j4f-shredder: at this point, what you have done manually with gsilva's help is fine. I was just asking why you didn't use the defaults (and even there, i thought you got the choice of which disks to use)
[00:34] <j4f-shredder> It shows a message
[00:34] <j4f-shredder> I did
[00:34] <j4f-shredder> I used silvas counsil
[00:34] <j4f-shredder> but now its showing a message FOrce UEFI installation?
[00:35] <azizLIGHT> nacc: i did the huge command for hwe stack upgrade and i got some errors towards the end of the apt-get command. here is the tail end of that log with the error messages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24050002/
[00:35] <j4f-shredder> this machine firmware has started the installer in uefi mode but it looks like there may be existing operating systems already installed using bios compatibility mode
[00:35] <j4f-shredder> I dont want windows no more
[00:35] <nacc> azizLIGHT: i believe virtualbox may not be compatible with the hwe stack
[00:35] <nacc> azizLIGHT: someone else was complaining about that eariler
[00:35] <azizLIGHT> oh, but ill boot ok right
[00:35] <nacc> azizLIGHT: i think it just means you can't use vbox in the hwe kernel
[00:36] <j4f-shredder> on the bios I used to see like 3 or 4 different entries for windows and ubuntu
[00:36] <j4f-shredder> on the priority list
[00:36] <j4f-shredder> I want to get rid of that
[00:36] <azizLIGHT> anything i should do before i shutdown and restart
[00:36] <j4f-shredder> is this refering to that?
[00:36] <azizLIGHT> in case i dont get to boot
[00:36] <azizLIGHT> besides backup
[00:37] <nacc> azizLIGHT: nothing off the top of my head
[00:37] <azizLIGHT> i read the log files, yup its just some virtualbox stuff
[00:37] <azizLIGHT> they cant make the kernel module i guess
[00:37] <nacc> azizLIGHT: i am guessing there is already a bug for it, but i'd search for that
[00:38] <j4f-shredder> please, I need some assistance here
[00:38] <nacc> azizLIGHT: yeah, it's presumably a mismatch between the vbox kernel module and the hwe kernel sources
[00:38] <azizLIGHT> oh well
[00:38] <nacc> j4f-shredder: you can force uefi if you are just using ubuntu
[00:38] <azizLIGHT> wish me luck imma reboot
[00:38] <nacc> azizLIGHT: gl!
[00:38] <j4f-shredder> but I want to get rid of all those entries on the bios
[00:38] <j4f-shredder> I have 2 ubuntu entries
[00:38] <nacc> i don't know what you mean by 'bios'
[00:38] <j4f-shredder> and 2 windows entries
[00:38] <nacc> the bios doesn't have entries
[00:38] <nacc> do you mean grub?
[00:38] <gsilva> j4f-shredder, that's no the bios, that's grub
[00:38] <j4f-shredder> I would like to get rid of that
[00:38] <nacc> j4f-shredder: if you mean grub, then the reinstall will fix it
[00:38] <j4f-shredder> nono
[00:39] <j4f-shredder> its the bios
[00:39] <gsilva> Once you delete everything, that will disappear
[00:39] <j4f-shredder> nono
[00:39] <j4f-shredder> it's not grub
[00:39] <j4f-shredder> its the bios on priority preferences
[00:39] <j4f-shredder> once I installed windows on uefi mode
[00:39] <j4f-shredder> and suddenly I had like 6 entries
[00:39] <j4f-shredder> there
[00:39] <gsilva> Do you have more than 1 media device plugged in?
[00:39] <j4f-shredder> instead of a disk
[00:39] <j4f-shredder> I have a list like
[00:39] <gsilva> AH, that happened to me before
[00:39] <j4f-shredder> the hard drive
[00:40] <j4f-shredder> and 4 more entries, two for windows and two for ubuntu
[00:40] <gsilva> Right. It lets you choose all entries
[00:40] <j4f-shredder> and only one of those 4 works
[00:40] <j4f-shredder> I just want to start fresh
[00:40] <j4f-shredder> and get rid of all of that
[00:40] <j4f-shredder> how do I do?
[00:40] <gsilva> start your media device
[00:40] <gsilva> change the priority back to your media device
[00:40] <j4f-shredder> what?
[00:40] <gsilva> USB, DVD, whatever
[00:41] <gsilva> I don't know what you did there but you now really need to format that disk and a make a fresh installation
[00:41] <j4f-shredder> Im on the usb
[00:41] <j4f-shredder> the first
[00:41] <j4f-shredder> option
[00:41] <gsilva> Ok, you can now choose try, install and so on, right?
[00:42] <j4f-shredder> then I have . Windows Boot manager(P1 kingston) . Ubuntu (P1 kingston) Ubuntu (P1 kingston) UEFI .(KingstonDT 101 usb) P1: Kingston
[00:42] <j4f-shredder> all those options
[00:42] <gsilva> You're in the BIOS?
[00:42] <j4f-shredder> I had it set on the usb when that message came up
[00:42] <j4f-shredder> yes
[00:42] <j4f-shredder> Gigabyte bios
[00:43] <gsilva> Can you change the boot order to your USB that has the media installation?
[00:43] <j4f-shredder> yes
[00:44] <j4f-shredder> but if I do that then I get that force uefi installation message
[00:44] <j4f-shredder> I would need to wipe out the uefi mode
[00:44] <j4f-shredder> and use the legacy mode
[00:44] <gsilva> ok, try that
[00:44] <j4f-shredder> once I did a pretty messed up installation in order to be able to install windows
[00:44] <j4f-shredder> I had to partition a pendrive in uefi mode
[00:44] <gsilva> don't wipe nothing, just change the boot mode to legacy
[00:46] <j4f-shredder> I just see legacy usb support
[00:46] <j4f-shredder> Im using gygabyte H81M-H
[00:47] <gsilva> If you change to that, does it stop displaying all those disks?
[00:48] <azizLIGHT> nacc: 4.4 hangs on boot for me unfortunately
[00:49] <azizLIGHT> how do i find the logs for the failed boots
[00:49] <j4f-shredder> gsilva I just found it
[00:49] <j4f-shredder> Failed to load com32 file menu.c32 says now
[00:49] <nacc> azizLIGHT: where did it hang? logs should bein /var/log
[00:49] <gsilva> oh jesus xD
[00:50] <gsilva> What did you find then?
[00:50] <astro> What is the easiest way of creating a bootable usb in Ubuntu? I have trued unetbootin and it doesn't work
[00:51] <k1l_> astro: ubuntu has got the usb creator. but you can use "dd" on terminal for ubuntu isos, too
[00:51] <OerHeks> astro, use usb creator, standard app.
[00:51] <OerHeks> dd && sync
[00:51] <j4f-shredder> I just selected the usb with the legacy mode activated
[00:51] <gsilva> astro, in ubuntu: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[00:51] <gsilva> in Windows https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[00:52] <gsilva> These are pretty straightforward guides and I always managed to do it
[00:52] <gsilva> I'm not sure what is going on there, j4f-shredder because it seems your media device is broken?
[00:52] <azizLIGHT> nacc: it hung here http://i.imgur.com/OfKK09J.jpg
[00:53] <azizLIGHT> nacc: keyboard was unresponsive on this kernel at that point
[00:53] <azizLIGHT> had to press down power button
[00:53] <nacc> azizLIGHT: did you enter your passphrase? are you sure it's unresponsive and not just waiting for you to enter the passphrase?
[00:54] <nacc> azizLIGHT: did you try sysrq?
[00:54] <OerHeks> oh good action with encrypted disk ..
[00:54] <azizLIGHT> nacc: i entered the passphrase, i saw no characters typed. i rebooted and entered passphrase properly and hit enter and waited and it was nonresponsive
[00:54] <azizLIGHT> all my other kernels never had a problem?
[00:55] <azizLIGHT> with encrtyped disk
[00:55] <tangled_z> what's the name of the app managing the login screen that's in the latest LTS?
[00:55] <nacc> azizLIGHT: http://askubuntu.com/questions/786267/wont-boot-drop-to-busybox-after-kernel-upgrade-with-encrypted-disks maybe?
[00:55] <nacc> azizLIGHT: i feel like it's possibly a misconfig somewhere, but i hav eno idea where
[00:57] <k1l_> tangled_z: lightdm
[00:57] <tangled_z> k1l_ thanks :)
[00:59] <mynyml> i'd like to send an on screen display notification in the center of the screen, is there a way to do this with the current notify-send system?
[01:00] <OerHeks>  mynyml seems not possible with this tweak tool too .. http://www.webupd8.org/2016/05/customize-notifyosd-notification.html
[01:02] <mynyml> OerHeks, i feel like there must be a basic 3rd party library that does that somewhere
[01:08] <j4f-shredder> how do I remove the efi
[01:09] <j4f-shredder> how do I remove the efi mode from a usb
[01:09] <j4f-shredder> ??
[01:09] <j4f-shredder> the problem is the pendrive cause the hard disk is wiped
[01:09] <j4f-shredder> and the ubuntu installation is saying me I started it in uefi mode
[01:12] <azizLIGHT> what are the files used to boot the system? and how do they differ between kernels? maybe i can compare those files between my nonbooting 4.4 and my booting 3.13 and see what the issue is
[01:16] <yaboo> hi all I have a fujitsu laptp running ubuntu and it seems the backlight keys do not work, is there a package etc to make it work?
[01:21] <jaith> hello hello. can anyone tell me how to set the umask for apache on Ubuntu?  should it go in /etc/apache2/envvars ?
[01:22] <yaboo> @jaith umask
[01:22] <yaboo> jaith I know you can set the user in the envvars file
[01:22] <jaith> there's no setting for umask currently in that file. just add one?
[01:23] <jaith> yaboo: is there some way to check apache's umask setting now?
[01:23] <yaboo> jaith as far as I know, never needed too 755 was ok for me
[01:24] <jaith> yaboo, i need newly created files to be 664 instead of 644 -- situation involves a shared file system and apache on a guest vm
[01:25] <jon-mac> I'm having issues with audio devices being detected -- pactl is only showing one sink available, but there should be 3
[01:25] <jon-mac> I have no idea where to even start debugging this :/
[01:26] <gartral> hey all, I have a weird bug with 16.04.2 LTS on my HP EliteBook 2730p, when I come out of sleep mode I lose my ability to login on lightdm... or rather, my session never comes back up, There's no mention of any issues related to my GPU in dmesg, I'm kinda at a loss as to how to continue
[01:28] <gartral> I know that my VTs work, even ones left logged in aren't affected
[01:30] <tangled_z> hmm, my lightdm is not displaying any choice of window manager
[01:30] <tangled_z> even though ive added one to /usr/share/xsessions/
[01:30] <gartral> jaith: altering the default read/write perms of files is dangerous, not only from a security standpoint, but also stability, I'd recommend a cron job to alter the directories you need every n minutes
[01:31] <tangled_z> (and it gives me "Failed to load session" when i try to login)
[01:31] <yaboo> hi all I have a fujitsu laptp running ubuntu and it seems the backlight keys do not work, is there a package etc to make it work?
[01:31] <jaith> gartral: thank you for the warning. i like to think of myself as very security-minded. This is an unusual circumstance, and only required on my workstation where I am running a virtual machine with VirtualBox
[01:32] <jaith> gartral: It's a tiny change of umask default 022 to 002
[01:33] <jaith> gartral: the issue is that apache runs on a VirtualBox vm and needs write access to a shared folder from the host machine (which is my workstation). apache on the guest/vm can write these files just fine initially, but due to the way the shared folder is mounted, files need to be group-writable to be written after they have initially been created by apache
[01:34] <SamIam> Hi guys! I need help getting wireless working with my Macbook Pro in Ubuntu Server 16.04 (Broadcom BCM4360)
[01:34] <jaith> gartral: long story LOL. I think it'll be fine
[01:34] <gartral> jaith: I strongly recommend a cronjob
[01:34] <gartral> SamIam: try wicd-curses
[01:34] <jaith> gartral: pass. thank you!
[01:34] <k1l_> !bcm43xx | SamIam
[01:35] <jon-mac> any ideas what would cause audio devices to not show up in pulseaudio? it looks like its there and has the right kernel module
[01:35] <SamIam> @gartral: wicd-curses is not installed and I have no internet to download it
[01:36] <SamIam> @ubottu: Thanks I will try this.
[01:36] <gartral> SamIam: well... um... what does ifconfig say?
[01:37] <SamIam> @gartral: shows only loopback - no wireless
[01:37] <jaith> gartral: although a question does occur to me. Would you ever recommend adding a umask to tighten permissions? E.g., 077?
[01:38] <gartral> jaith: certainly, but not often
[01:42] <gartral> hey all, I have a weird bug with 16.04.2 LTS on my HP EliteBook 2730p, when I come out of sleep mode I lose my ability to login on lightdm... or rather, my session never comes back up, There's no mention of any issues related to my GPU in dmesg, I'm kinda at a loss as to how to continue. I know my VTs work fine
[01:52] <Please_Help_my_S> hi i need some help
[01:52] <Please_Help_my_S> is anyone here
[01:53] <Please_Help_my_S> guess not
[01:53] <jaith> what is up?
[01:53] <jaith> i'm no expert
[01:53] <jaith> will do my best
[01:53] <Please_Help_my_S> thanks
[01:54] <Please_Help_my_S> so i am on a chromebook and i tried to install ubuntu(unity) and it works
[01:54] <Please_Help_my_S> but when i do startunity
[01:54] <tubal> Hello. Any recommendations for full-disk encryption? U 16.10.
[01:54] <Please_Help_my_S> this happens http://pastebin.com/L1k4XLAP
[01:55] <jaith> Please_Help_my_S: sadly, I don't think I can help at all...
[01:55] <Please_Help_my_S> thats fine, thanks
[01:56] <jaith> gartral: any chance you could help Please_Help_my_S ?  his question looks pretty gnarly
[01:57] <gartral> jaith: I can't open his paste, I'm console-mode only atm
[01:59] <qwebirc558382> oops my pc crashed
[01:59] <qwebirc558382> im Please_Help_my_S
[01:59] <jaith> Can anyone tell me why the NetMask setting on my wired connection keeps getting reset from 255.255.255.0 to just "24"
[01:59] <qwebirc558382> did i get any help while i was gone?
[02:00] <jaith> qwebirc558382: sadly, no. gartral is unable to view pastebin due to console-only mode
[02:00] <jaith> no one else around atm
[02:00] <qwebirc558382> how can i post it so gartral can see it?
[02:00] <jaith> qwebirc558382: I think you're outta luck for the time being
[02:00] <jaith> try again in 5?
[02:02] <gartral> qwebirc558382: I'm not going to be able to look for a while
[02:02] <qwebirc558382> gartral: thats fine
[02:03] <OerHeks>  
[02:07] <qwebirc558382> crosh> shell chronos@localhost / $ sudo startunity Password: Entering /mnt/stateful_partition/crouton/chroots/precise... Failed to start message bus: Failed to open "/etc/selinux/targeted/contexts/dbus_contexts": No such file or directory WARNING: starting chroot system dbus daemon failed with code 1   _XSERVTransmkdir: ERROR: euid != 0,directory /tmp/.X11-unix will not be created.   X.Org X Server 1.15.1 Release Date: 2014-04-1
[02:09] <medfly> hi, ubuntu people. would one of you be so kind as to say your useragent when using firefox? thanks.
[02:10] <medfly> I'd like to pretend I am using ubuntu to websites, you see
[02:13] <wedgie> medfly: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0
[02:13] <medfly> thanks!
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> medfly: make your life easy and install ubuntu :p
[02:20] <jacius> I am using 16.10 with Unity. When I double-tap the touchpad with 3 fingers, Ubuntu switches apps (as if I had typed Alt+Tab). Is there a way to disable this behavior? I keep accidentally triggering it.
[02:21] <Guest69578> liche la plotte :)
[02:22] <xangua> jacius: sometimes that happens to be, but didn't know how to trigger it... It seems to be a know bug, did you check on Launchpad?
[02:22] <xangua> (the alt switch apps popup I assume)
[02:28] <KC1AFM> Hi, i am trying to get sound to work via hdmi on my rasberri pi. I am running ubuntu mate. can anyone help?
[02:30] <teddy_berror> hi, I have a quick question. I might be an idiot but I always thought writing a new partition table was a stubstitute for writing all sectors to 0 via dd etc. Is that not  the case?
[02:30] <jacius> There seems to be an existing issue related to the app switching: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1264795
[02:31] <jacius> But I think the app-switching behavior itself is probably an intentional feature, not a bug.
[02:31] <teddy_berror> KC1AFM: are you using https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/ ?
[02:32] <KC1AFM> yes
[02:33] <wedgie> teddy_berror: not the same thing at all.
[02:33] <wedgie> writing 0's to the whole disk will take quite a long time, depending on the size of the drive
[02:34] <Wadjenes> Hi.
[02:34] <Wadjenes> I get this error:
[02:34] <teddy_berror> wedgie: Sure, I didn't think so. I just meant that it would, in practical use, appear to be a fresh disk
[02:34] <Wadjenes> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:34] <Wadjenes> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:35] <Wadjenes> Does anybody have a way to resolve it. It's quite frustrating.
[02:35] <teddy_berror> KC1AFM: What have you tried? > lspci | grep Audio
[02:35] <doc|work_> Wadjenes, you need to be root/sudo
[02:35] <Wadjenes> doc|work_ doesn't work when I'm root as well.
[02:35] <Wadjenes> I tried sudo -s
[02:35] <wedgie> teddy_berror: from that perspective, yes. Just keep in mind that all the old data is still physically on the drive, if someone was motivated enough to recover it
[02:35] <doc|work_> Wadjenes, then something else is accessing the repo. Do you have synaptic or any other package manager open?
[02:35] <teddy_berror> wedgie: phew. okay. that was my main concern ty
[02:36] <j4f-shredder> Ok I completely removed windows and installed ubuntu, now when I try to access my other HDD drive with files and movies it says I dont have permissions to watch it
[02:36] <Wadjenes> No.
[02:36] <Wadjenes> I've got HexChat and firefox open.
[02:36] <j4f-shredder> I created a sub user
[02:36] <j4f-shredder> with root privileges
[02:36] <OerHeks> Wadjenes, check updates, maybe there is a row waiting
[02:39] <Wadjenes> OerHeks: In progress
[02:40] <Wadjenes> OerHeks: I tried doing sudo apt-get update; it was working and then returned said error.
[02:40] <Wadjenes> OerHeks: Is there a place where I SHOULD be looking at the updates?
[02:40] <teddy_berror> j4f-shredder: what is the other hard drive partition type. Fat32 ?
[02:40] <Wadjenes> OerHeks: I'm fairly new to ubuntu; I've got the latest version however.
[02:40] <j4f-shredder> type binary
[02:41] <j4f-shredder> size unknown
[02:41] <doc|work_> Wadjenes, there's one that runs by default, to do auto updates and the like
[02:41] <teddy_berror> j4f-shredder: where are you reading that from?
[02:41] <j4f-shredder> nautilus
[02:41] <j4f-shredder> is there a command
[02:42] <teddy_berror> j4f-shredder: i can't think of one easy/good way except gparted. Can you open that and find your hard drive from the list? Then you should be able to see what it was formatted as on Windows
[02:43] <j4f-shredder> ntfs
[02:44] <j4f-shredder> mount point is media/root/HDD
[02:44] <ubuntquestion> hi there - simple question. i have a network printer, laser - Fuji Xerox Docucentre C2275
[02:44] <ubuntquestion> how should I best add this to my ubuntu setup?
[02:44] <ubuntquestion> I tried using "Generic PCL Laser Printer" and it does print, but it's in black and white and has low DPI resolution
[02:45] <ubuntquestion> so i figure there's probably a better option to use?
[02:45] <teddy_berror> j4f-shredder: okay, good, thanks. One sec.
[02:45] <transhuman> hi in apache2 I am looking for the module that gives support for User and Group settings in apache2.conf anyone know what the module is called in Alpine-Linux its called mod_unixd.so
[02:45] <j4f-shredder> in flags section I can see boot
[02:46] <Wadjenes> doc|work_ OerHeks: Issue resolved. I simply did sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[02:48] <jacius> A workaround for the three finger tap app switcher was implemented: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1589520
[02:48] <jacius> xangua: ^
[02:48] <jacius> gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Gestures dash-tap false
[02:50] <Wadjenes> I'm excited for 17.01 to be released.
[02:50] <Wadjenes> I was using 16.04 for so long, finally switched to 16.10 and I noticed a drastic difference. 16.10 is A LOT smoother.
[02:51] <xangua> Wadjenes: there is no 17.01
[02:51] <Wadjenes> xangua: there will be.
[02:51] <xangua> There will not ;-)
[02:51] <xangua> !17.04
[02:52] <Wadjenes> that's what I meant.
[02:52] <Wadjenes> :P
[02:52] <Wadjenes> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[02:52] <Wadjenes> I've got a bad memory.
[02:57] <ubuntquestion> hi
[02:59] <ubuntquestion> is there someone who could help me connect to my network printer?
[03:00] <ubuntquestion> I tried using "Generic PCL Laser Printer" and it does print, but it's in black and white and has low DPI resolution
[03:00] <ubuntquestion> i'm just trying to get it in colour with better quality
[03:02] <jon-mac> is there anyone who could point me in the right direction for debugging audio devices not being detected? it shows up in dmesg during boot and looks correct but doesn't show up in pulseaudio -- only another one shows up
[03:02] <jon-mac> you can load > 1 audio device, right?
[03:10] <lotuspsychje> !sound | jon-mac
[03:11] <jon-mac> lotuspsychje: the issue is that it does not show up as a sink or output device
[03:11] <jon-mac> the only sink detected is the hdmi adapter, and it's suspended -- nothing is showing up for the speakers or headphone jack
[03:13] <ubuntquestion> does anyone have any ideas about the printer issue?
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> ubuntquestion: perhaps fuji drivers on their website?
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> jon-mac: what ubuntu version? recent hardware plugin?
[03:14] <ubuntquestion> i looked, they dont have linux
[03:14] <jon-mac> lotuspsychje: 16.04, what do you mean recent hardware plugin?
[03:15] <ubuntquestion> they do have Mac, which apparently has a ppd file in the dmg file - but i wasnt able to figure out how to extract it from the dmg file
[03:15] <ubuntquestion> (if anyone here knows how that would be a great help too)
[03:15] <jon-mac> lotuspsychje: this is a new machine, just got it with 14.04 from dell, and updated it to 16.04 if that's what you're getting at
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> jon-mac: updated to latest 16.04.2?
[03:15] <NemosCene> hi
[03:15] <jon-mac> it's fully updated, I can double check the subversion but it should be
[03:16] <jon-mac> yeah, 16.04.2 LTS
[03:19] <BazDaddy> ridium
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> jon-mac: did it got recognized on 14.04?
[03:22] <jon-mac> unfortunately I didn't check if the audio worked :/
[03:22] <jon-mac> I figured that would be the least of my problems
[03:23] <jon-mac> but dell supports it on 14.04 so the hardware should be capable
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> jon-mac: should be yes, but perhaps somethig going wrong with driver
[03:24] <transhuman> what package provides mod_unixd.so in the latest ubuntu dpkg -S mod_unixd.so shows nothing
[03:25] <jon-mac> lotuspsychje: yeah theres clearly something below pulse that's borked -- I messed with alsa for a while but am not sure if that's the right level to mess with
[03:27] <Bashing-om> transhuman: I may be mistaken, but : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=mod_unixd.so&mode=filename&suite=xenial-updates&arch=any . I do not see that it is a ubuntu file .
[03:29] <transhuman>  thanks Bashing-om thats a gem of a link found this http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?mode=filename&suite=xenial-updates&section=all&arch=any&keywords=unixd&searchon=contents its in apache2-dev
[03:30] <Bashing-om> transhuman: Great . You do good work . And yep, I can be mistaken :)
[03:31] <transhuman> thanks but not really but I will take the compliment
[03:32] <transhuman> unfortunately it doesn't create a .load and .conf file in modes-enabled
[03:32] <transhuman> err..mods-available
[03:36] <dlsakdnas> I installed Ubuntu with crouton and when i type "startunity" this is what happens: http://pastebin.com/L1k4XLAP
[03:36] <dlsakdnas> please help
[03:36] <Bashing-om> transhuman: That one is out of my skill range .
[03:37] <dlsakdnas> rip
[03:39] <dlsakdnas> any1 here that can help
[04:00] <JairunCaloth> dlsakdnas: you appear to have a permissions issue
[04:00] <JairunCaloth> xf86EnableIOPorts: failed to set IOPL for I/O (Operation not permitted)
[04:00] <JairunCaloth> [intel_init_bufmgr:1069] Error initializing buffer manager.
[04:00] <JairunCaloth> setversion 1.4 failed: Permission denied
[04:01] <JairunCaloth> I'm not really familiar with what you are doing, but I would investigate that first.
[04:08] <TheNH813> Why does search keep disabling itself on all file managers?
[04:09] <TheNH813> When I type while browsing a folder, nothing happens.
[04:09] <TheNH813> It doesn't start selecting files as a type.
[04:09] <TheNH813> Does anyone know what causes this, and what setting to change to fix it.
[04:10] <TheNH813> The search does work on Thunar and Nautilus, but only if run as root.
[04:11] <TheNH813> No other user accounts are affected. Recreating the user account fixes the issue.
[04:16] <TheNH813> I'l just file a bug report and see where that goes.
[04:19] <protocol> hello world
[04:40] <Zythyr> Need help. I am confused. I am creating a SMB share in Ubuntu 16. I don't understand what is the purpose for setting hte password of the SMB user. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20Create%20a%20Network%20Share%20Via%20Samba%20Via%20CLI%20(Command-line%20interface/Linux%20Terminal)%20-%20Uncomplicated,%20Simple%20and%20Brief%20Way!
[04:44] <darkzek> Hi!
[04:45] <Zythyr> hi
[04:45] <darkzek> I'm just searching around for how to get bars that move based on how loud my music is on the side of my screen, you know the ones. Any programs any of you know off the top of your head? I've been looking with no luck
[04:45] <darkzek> Hi
[04:56] <j4f-shredder> hey, I just installed ubuntu 16.04 and now I'm getting the error The system is running in low-graphics mode . YOur screen, graphics card, and input device settings could not be detected correctly, you will need to configure these yourself
[04:57] <darkzek> http://askubuntu.com/questions/141606/how-to-fix-the-system-is-running-in-low-graphics-mode-error
[04:58] <darkzek> https://www.google.com/search?q=the%20system%20is%20running%20in%20low-graphics%20mode%20ubuntu
[04:59] <nores> hello everyone. i'm trying to install latest version of lutris so I can manage may games on ubuntu 12.04 but it depends on python3-gi and it won't install
[05:03] <j4f-shredder> whats wrong with that lightdm
[05:03] <j4f-shredder> I still dont understand much about display packages
[05:03] <j4f-shredder> are they developed by different people
[05:03] <j4f-shredder> is this gnome the official?
[05:03] <j4f-shredder> which is the best?
[05:04] <Bashing-om> j4f-shredder: ' sudo lshw -C display ' in the configuration line is a driver shown ?
[05:08] <elias_a> nores: If it really is 12.04 it has no support any more. Could that be the reason for python not installing?
[05:08] <elias_a> nores: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[05:08] <elias_a> nores: What is the output apt-get gives you?
[05:09] <j4f-shredder> Bashing-om: Im just installing gnome as suggested
[05:09] <nores> elias_a, yes it is. but i though there could be an unofficial python3 repository, ppa or something..
[05:09] <j4f-shredder> and I will pick it over this light
[05:09] <GreeningGalaxy> I'm trying to run Ubuntu MATE on an RPi3 and it keeps freezing solid at seemingly random times and leaving no way to recover but cycling the power.
[05:09] <elias_a> nores: Well I would just update to following LTS.
[05:09] <GreeningGalaxy> I know it's not the hardware or SD card because I've tried it on several different brand new instances of each and hit the same problem every time
[05:10] <GreeningGalaxy> journalctl -xe is showing a service called brltty.service or something breaking
[05:11] <GreeningGalaxy> any idea what this is?
[05:12] <dimisdas> GreeningGalaxy: Braille device support
[05:12] <GreeningGalaxy> oh, I see that failing during the the boot crawl
[05:13] <j4f-shredder> Hey, I just install gnome and selected gdm as the visualizer but it's not working
[05:13] <j4f-shredder> it stays at the ubuntu screen with the green dots
[05:14] <j4f-shredder> I've been having serious trouble to make this work today
[05:14] <j4f-shredder> I had to reinstall ubuntu, lost all my data and now this, really frustrated
[05:15] <dimisdas> GreeningGalaxy: you can remove it, if you don’t rely on accessibility features
[05:15] <dimisdas> GreeningGalaxy: sudo apt-get remove --purge brltty
[05:15] <UHck> join #gcj
[05:15] <j4f-shredder> does it take that long after installing
[05:15] <j4f-shredder> gdm?
[05:15] <j4f-shredder> its been like that for 5 minutes
[05:16] <j4f-shredder> please, I need to work
[05:16] <j4f-shredder> and Im stuck with this
[05:18] <GreeningGalaxy> I've just disabled it for now, no freeze yet, but bluetooth audio is cutting in and out
[05:18] <GreeningGalaxy> that's probably not ubuntu's fault though, bluetooth is terrible
[05:18] <j4f-shredder> GreeningGalaxy:
[05:18] <Zythyr> Need help. I created a Samba share that allows guest to access the share for read/write. When guest create any documents in the share, it has the permission of nobody:nogroup and it is set to 755. How can I make sure the permissions are 777
[05:19] <j4f-shredder> do you know how to correct the gnome
[05:19] <j4f-shredder> its freezes on login screen
[05:20] <GreeningGalaxy> No, I know exactly zilch about GNOME. It's one of my subjects of least knowledge in Linux. I abandoned GNOME about when GNOME 3 came out and never came back.
[05:21] <GreeningGalaxy> with the exception of relatives like MATE (and more distant ones like xfce and lxde) I'm a KDE lass.
[05:22] <Bashing-om> j4f-shredder: What results at the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F1 ; can you log into the system at this terminal ?
[05:23] <j4f-shredder> No, I tried to do changes from grub advanced options, the recovery mode
[05:23] <B105PH3RE> Zythyr: create mask = 777 in the smb.conf for the share
[05:24] <j4f-shredder> I have gdm3 and lightdm installed
[05:24] <j4f-shredder> I tried to pick again lightdm without any luck
[05:24] <j4f-shredder> it freezes on ubuntu login screen
[05:25] <B105PH3RE> j4f-shredder: to switch to gdm from lightdm in console type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[05:25] <j4f-shredder> yeah, I tried that
[05:25] <j4f-shredder> but in recovery mode
[05:26] <B105PH3RE> you would have to reboot then
[05:26] <Bashing-om> j4f-shredder: That is not what I requested, this is th 3rd time I have attempted to assist . If you will not follow my thought process I can not help .
[05:27] <j4f-shredder> the only thing I can do is go to grub->advanced options->recovery mode->root shell prompt
[05:27] <j4f-shredder> and then throw your command
[05:27] <j4f-shredder> package gdm is not installed an no information available
[05:27] <j4f-shredder> thats what it says
[05:28] <B105PH3RE> use lightdm
[05:28] <B105PH3RE> instead gdm
[05:28] <Bashing-om> j4f-shredder: You say you can get to the login screen . What rsults at this screen with key combo ctl+alt+F1 ?
[05:28] <j4f-shredder> right now Im at the configure lightdm screen
[05:28] <j4f-shredder> it shows two options gdm3
[05:29] <j4f-shredder> and lightdm
[05:29] <j4f-shredder> cannot move default diplay manager . read only file stystem it says
[05:29] <j4f-shredder> Im on the recovery root console
[05:30] <B105PH3RE> you can't boot normally
[05:30] <j4f-shredder> no, as I said before it freezes
[05:30] <j4f-shredder> I never get the chance to get to a console
[05:30] <B105PH3RE> even before you login
[05:30] <j4f-shredder> yes
[05:31] <B105PH3RE> disable X on startup
[05:31] <j4f-shredder> I press ctrl alt f1
[05:31] <j4f-shredder> and nothing
[05:31] <j4f-shredder> what?
[05:31] <j4f-shredder> Im a noob please
[05:31] <j4f-shredder> I need steps
[05:31] <B105PH3RE> do you know how to disable your X display on startup or
[05:31] <j4f-shredder> no
[05:31] <B105PH3RE> well you know how to remount your harddrive read/write access from root console?
[05:32] <qwr> qwr
[05:32] <j4f-shredder> no
[05:32] <j4f-shredder> and I never get the chance to get to a console with write properties
[05:32] <B105PH3RE> well its gonna be a long process then..
[05:32] <j4f-shredder> I just reinstalled the whole thing
[05:33] <B105PH3RE> what did you do last that BROKE It
[05:33] <j4f-shredder> I was at 6.10 and whenever I plugged my wifi card the system froze
[05:33] <B105PH3RE> or was it already broke on fresh install
[05:33] <j4f-shredder> nono
[05:33] <j4f-shredder> it wasnt
[05:33] <j4f-shredder> I just installed everything
[05:33] <B105PH3RE> well strange
[05:33] <j4f-shredder> I cant believe I ahve to reinstall from scratch
[05:34] <j4f-shredder> this is too much
[05:34] <B105PH3RE> well does the live cd work ok
[05:34] <B105PH3RE> or does it freeze also
[05:34] <j4f-shredder> yes
[05:34] <j4f-shredder> let me see
[05:35] <B105PH3RE> if your system is hard freezing as in ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't work then I believe you may have a hardware problem causing you this problem
[05:35] <j4f-shredder> the live cd works
[05:35] <B105PH3RE> what does additional drivers show when you open in on live session
[05:35] <B105PH3RE> 16.04 live?
[05:36] <j4f-shredder> Im sorry
[05:36] <j4f-shredder> its hard to follow you
[05:36] <j4f-shredder> assume I know anything about this
[05:36] <j4f-shredder> I need steps
[05:36] <j4f-shredder> 16.04
[05:36] <j4f-shredder> is the version
[05:36] <B105PH3RE> are you in live cd now?
[05:36] <j4f-shredder> of the live cd
[05:36] <j4f-shredder> yes
[05:37] <B105PH3RE> ok look for additional drivers program and launch it
[05:37] <B105PH3RE> does anything appear on the list?
[05:37] <j4f-shredder> no propietary drivers are in use
[05:37] <j4f-shredder> it says
[05:37] <B105PH3RE> no options?
[05:37] <j4f-shredder> it says
[05:37] <j4f-shredder> unknown: unknown and two options
[05:38] <B105PH3RE> strange
[05:38] <j4f-shredder> using processor microcode firmware intel cpus form intel microcode(propietary)
[05:38] <j4f-shredder> and then another option do not use this device
[05:38] <j4f-shredder> and its selected
[05:38] <B105PH3RE> you have a modem or something else? memory card reader?
[05:38] <j4f-shredder> I have a wifi
[05:38] <j4f-shredder> adapter
[05:39] <B105PH3RE> does the wifi work on live cd?
[05:39] <j4f-shredder> yes
[05:40] <B105PH3RE> hmm but when you install and launch you freeze at the login screen for X or lightdm?
[05:40] <Bashing-om> B105PH3RE: j4f-shredder If this us a AMD graphics and 16.04+ kernel. will not have a proprietary driver .
[05:40] <j4f-shredder> i just use an on board graphic card
[05:40] <j4f-shredder> the mother is Gigabyte H81M-H
[05:41] <j4f-shredder> the cpu is i5-4590
[05:41] <j4f-shredder> intel
[05:41] <B105PH3RE> j4f-shredder: does the screen flash or anything or do you see the login box or nothing at all just black?
[05:42] <j4f-shredder> I see the ubuntu screen with the red dots
[05:42] <B105PH3RE> normal startup that is
[05:42] <B105PH3RE> then it freezes
[05:42] <j4f-shredder> and then the screen with the inputs for the password never comes
[05:42] <B105PH3RE> just the red dots screen
[05:43] <j4f-shredder> what can I do?
[05:43] <B105PH3RE> if you press the arrow keys on boot you should be able to see console messages see if you can do that
[05:44] <j4f-shredder> it says
[05:44] <j4f-shredder> Created slice user slice of gdm
[05:44] <j4f-shredder> started user manager for uid 123...
[05:44] <j4f-shredder> started session c1 of user gdm
[05:44] <j4f-shredder> Started User Manager for UID 123
[05:44] <j4f-shredder> and then it freezes
[05:44] <j4f-shredder> everything has an OK next to it
[05:45] <B105PH3RE> and you cannot ctrl-alt-f1
[05:45] <B105PH3RE> or f2
[05:46] <j4f-shredder> yes
[05:46] <j4f-shredder> I can see mysql server tasks running
[05:47] <j4f-shredder> Failed to start mysql community server
[05:47] <j4f-shredder> and then it loops
[05:47] <j4f-shredder> trying to start
[05:47] <j4f-shredder> thats what I see on ctrl-alt-f2
[05:47] <j4f-shredder> theres a guy that said Installing ubuntu-gnome-desktop, then running dpkg-reconfigure gdm fixed the problem for me.
[05:47] <B105PH3RE> what about f3
[05:48] <j4f-shredder> yes
[05:48] <j4f-shredder> I see the same
[05:49] <j4f-shredder> mysql community server looping trying to start and failing
[05:49] <B105PH3RE> but you do not have any that show login promp
[05:49] <B105PH3RE> its looping mysql server loop
[05:49] <j4f-shredder> no
[05:50] <B105PH3RE> you have to wait until you get a login promp to make any chances... try all the tty's from f1-f10 using the ctrl-alt see what you can find if any show a login box
[05:50] <j4f-shredder> I did
[05:50] <j4f-shredder> but its looping
[05:51] <j4f-shredder> it never stops
[05:51] <B105PH3RE> no login just the mysql starting failed and
[05:51] <B105PH3RE> hmm
[05:51] <B105PH3RE> well the mysql server is whats hanging your startup process it seems
[05:51] <B105PH3RE> you may be best to just reinstall
[05:52] <j4f-shredder> do you know any other more stable distro
[05:52] <B105PH3RE> xubuntu
[05:52] <j4f-shredder> I dont want to use ubuntu anymore to be honest
[05:52] <j4f-shredder> xubuntu is more stable?
[05:52] <B105PH3RE> i find the installer is more compatible with my systems I have
[05:53] <j4f-shredder> such a shame
[05:53] <j4f-shredder> that ubuntu doesnt have more debbuging tools
[05:53] <j4f-shredder> or ways to access the system
[05:53] <B105PH3RE> you find a better flavor for you hardware but your having a mysql error so not sure if you tried to install mysql or not
[05:53] <j4f-shredder> cant I do anything from the live cd??
[05:54] <B105PH3RE> yes but your experience is not at that kind of level and you may totally break your system if you do the wrong thing
[05:54] <j4f-shredder> Its already broken
[05:54] <j4f-shredder> just tell me what to do
[05:54] <j4f-shredder> chroot?
[05:54] <j4f-shredder> I need to work
[05:54] <B105PH3RE> well you can remove the mysql startup file from the runlevel 5
[05:54] <j4f-shredder> yeah
[05:54] <B105PH3RE> so it won't boot
[05:54] <j4f-shredder> just tell me how to do that
[05:54] <B105PH3RE> on startup
[05:55] <B105PH3RE> are you in the live session
[05:55] <j4f-shredder> getting in there
[05:55] <j4f-shredder> Im in
[05:55] <B105PH3RE> ok once you load in navigate to your hard drive /etc/rc5.d/
[05:56] <j4f-shredder> yes
[05:56] <OerHeks> oh, 'j4f-shredder> I was at 6.10 and whenever I plugged my wifi card the system froze" is another story of our favortite trolll
[05:56] <B105PH3RE> see if there are any files inthere that have mysql
[05:56] <OerHeks> j4f-shredder, please stop
[05:57] <j4f-shredder> nothing
[05:57] <j4f-shredder> OerHeks: go play with your dolls dude, I have to work
[05:57] <B105PH3RE> ok check your /etc/init.d/ is there a mysql there
[05:57] <j4f-shredder> fuck off
[05:58] <j4f-shredder> nothing
[05:58] <B105PH3RE> make sure your navigating to the hard drive it won't be absolute /etc/rc5.d/ but it would more likely be something like /media/user/101342304324/etc/rc5.d/
[05:58] <j4f-shredder> just X11-common
[05:58] <j4f-shredder> ohh
[05:58] <B105PH3RE> the hard drive
[05:58] <B105PH3RE> should see an icon on the desktop ghosted
[05:59] <B105PH3RE> 256gb volume or something like thag
[05:59] <B105PH3RE> find etc/rc5.d in that location
[06:00] <j4f-shredder> there is no icon on the desktop
[06:00] <j4f-shredder> I seached on media
[06:00] <j4f-shredder> and I have cdrom and ubuntu directories
[06:00] <j4f-shredder> ubuntu is empty
[06:00] <j4f-shredder> and the other one is the usb
[06:01] <B105PH3RE> so you don't see your hard drive anywhere
[06:01] <B105PH3RE> file manager?
[06:01] <j4f-shredder> I just see a ubuntu 16.94
[06:01] <j4f-shredder> 16.04
[06:01] <j4f-shredder> which I cant access
[06:02] <B105PH3RE> what does it say when you try
[06:02] <j4f-shredder> errorr mounting /dev/sdc1
[06:02] <j4f-shredder> at media/ubuntu/Ubuntu
[06:02] <B105PH3RE> whats the default file manager for ubuntu again?
[06:03] <j4f-shredder> nautilus
[06:03] <B105PH3RE> gksudo nautilus in console
[06:03] <B105PH3RE> and try access the drive that way
[06:04] <j4f-shredder> unable to locate package gksu
[06:05] <B105PH3RE> you will have to install gksu then
[06:06] <B105PH3RE> or actually just sudo nautilus /media
[06:06] <j4f-shredder> how do I build something
[06:06] <j4f-shredder> it has a makefile
[06:06] <j4f-shredder> I cant apt/get install it on console
[06:06] <j4f-shredder> I downloaded the package
[06:06] <B105PH3RE> did you apt-get update first
[06:07] <OerHeks> now the troll changes..
[06:07] <j4f-shredder> yes
[06:07] <j4f-shredder> but the ppas are not loaded maybe
[06:09] <B105PH3RE> do you have internet access onthe live session?
[06:10] <j4f-shredder> yes
[06:10] <j4f-shredder> I downloaded the package
[06:10] <j4f-shredder> but how do I install it manually?
[06:10] <B105PH3RE> your' not the manually type
[06:10] <j4f-shredder> nongnu.org/gksu
[06:11] <B105PH3RE> OerHeks: is he really trolling me?
[06:11] <j4f-shredder> dude
[06:11] <OerHeks> so obviously ..
[06:11] <j4f-shredder> I think it's a lack of respect
[06:11] <j4f-shredder> you think you are superior
[06:11] <B105PH3RE> who think what?
[06:11] <j4f-shredder> you and him
[06:11] <j4f-shredder> you've been calling me troll
[06:12] <j4f-shredder> only cause I have trouble setting this up
[06:12] <B105PH3RE> why do I think im superior i'm trying to help your ass
[06:12] <j4f-shredder> You just called me a troll
[06:12] <B105PH3RE> i never called you a troll
[06:12] <B105PH3RE> high school!
[06:12] <j4f-shredder> maybe I missunderstood you, but  you asked him if I was trolling you
[06:12] <j4f-shredder> that's not a friendly answer
[06:12] <j4f-shredder> question
[06:14] <B105PH3RE> OerHeks: hope it was at least entertaining
[06:15] <j4f-shredder> thanks for your help dude, Im really dissapointed with this channel
[06:15] <j4f-shredder> I hope you never have to ask nothing to someone who knows much better than you
[06:15] <weilz> !msg
[06:16] <j4f-shredder> and the other idiot that must be a fucking gnome in his room, that people is usually unhappy
[06:17] <OerHeks> are you done with the rant, j4f-shredder ?
[06:17] <j4f-shredder> Are you?
[06:17] <j4f-shredder> you are the one who started calling me names cause I wanted to learn
[06:17] <j4f-shredder> why don't you just throw into the river
[06:26] <coec> hi
[06:26] <coec> I can't install package: libkqueue-dev, libgnutls-dev what can I do?
[06:27] <alkisg> What is the exact output of `apt-get install ` and `apt-cache policy` for those packages? Put it to pastebin
[06:28] <coec> for libgnutls-dev: package libgnutls-dev has no installation candidate
[06:29] <j4f-shredder> alkisg, I could login to a console but I have a mysql daemon looping endlessly, how can I deactivate it on startup to avoid the freeze before login?
[06:30] <alkisg> j4f-shredder: does `service mysql stop` stop it from running?
[06:31] <alkisg> coec: this was not what I asked though, put all the info to pastebin, for both of the commands I asked
[06:31] <alkisg> !paste
[06:32] <coec> pastebin.com/raw/Fp6K9ZZc
[06:32] <coec> sory
[06:32] <coec> pastebin.com/raw/Fp6K9ZZc
[06:33] <coec> alkisg: this is the right one.
[06:33] <alkisg> coec: and the output of this, to pastebin?  grep -r universe /etc/apt/sources.list*
[06:33] <OerHeks> libkqeueue-dev<> libkqueue-dev
[06:34] <OerHeks> !info libkqueue-dev
[06:37] <coec> alkisg: paste.ubuntu.com/24051269/
[06:38] <alkisg> coec: does `sudo apt-get update` finish without any issues?
[06:38] <OerHeks> universe seems proper enabled.
[06:38] <coec> alkisg: true
[06:39] <coec> yes
[06:39] <alkisg> coec: you mistyped the package name before, does `apt-cache policy libkqueue-dev` say no candidates?
[06:40] <mm_> want to recover file from found.000 folder in pendrive, but the file is broken into three segments file0000,file0001,file0002. the file was of format .001
[06:40] <mm_> help
[06:40] <coec> now it shows the version and no error
[06:40] <coec> but i need that proper package for hopper disassembler
[06:40] <alkisg> coec: ok, and the output of `sudo apt-get install libkqueue-dev`?
[06:41] <coec> thanks
[06:41] <coec> how did you fix it?
[06:41] <mm_> want to recover file from found.000 folder in pendrive, but the file is broken into three segments file0000,file0001,file0002. the file was of format .001
[06:41] <coec> what aobut lignutls-dev ?
[06:41] <alkisg> coec: I think your main problem is mistyping... :)
[06:41] <coec> libgnutls-dev *
[06:42] <alkisg> Try again `apt-cache policy libgnutls-dev`
[06:42] <coec> does not say anythin
[06:42] <coec> paste.ubuntu.com/24051285
[06:43] <alkisg> I wonder if it's possible to have -updates enabled, yet main and security disabled... :O
[06:43] <mm_> can anyone here help, who have some descent knowledge of using ubuntu and recovering files...please help
[06:43] <mm_> want to recover file from found.000 folder in pendrive, but the file is broken into three segments file0000,file0001,file0002. the file was of format .001
[06:43] <alkisg> coec, output of this? egrep -rv '^#|^$' /etc/apt/sources.list*
[06:43] <B105PH3RE> mm_: those files seem to be a windows format not linux
[06:43] <coec> mm_: does it help? http://forensicswiki.org/wiki/Tools:Data_Recovery
[06:43] <coec> also backup the drive using dd before doing anything
[06:44] <mm_> coec---those files were backup files of tally.
[06:45] <coec> alkisg: paste.ubuntu.com/24051294
[06:45] <mm_> coec ---how can i recover the single file instead of file fragments
[06:46] <alkisg> coec: ah, libgnutls-dev is not available in yakkety: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libgnutls-dev
[06:46] <coec> so what can I do about it?
[06:46] <coec> mm_: what kind of file is that?
[06:46] <alkisg> coec: that usually happens when something is replaced with a more recent version, so also try to get a newer version of whatever it is that you're trying to install
[06:47] <coec> alkisg: sfw link: https://samsclass.info/127/proj/p7x-hopper.htm
[06:47] <coec> look for libgnutls-dev
[06:47] <alkisg> coec: it says "ubuntu 14.04" there, so install that or 16.04
[06:47] <alkisg> coec: they obviously don't support 16.10 yet
[06:48] <B105PH3RE> there is also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[06:48] <coec> so what can i do about it?
[06:48] <alkisg> coec: are you asking how to install 16.04?
[06:48] <mm_> coec--the file is of 001 format. the file from recovery which are broken into segments are in Found.000 folder named File0000.chk,File0001.chk,File0002.chk
[06:48] <coec> alkisg: are you saying I should install 16.04?
[06:48] <alkisg> coec: yes, because hopper apparently doesn't support 16.10 yet
[06:49] <coec> if i will install package it won't work?
[06:49] <doc|home> hey, I'm looking to set up an NFS server on a laptop for kubernetes development use. What do you use for the client IP when you want to set access only for your local machine, but the IP address might change based on the location?
[06:49] <j4f-shredder> I could solve it reinstalling the intel drivers after killing the mysql daemon
[06:49] <coec> ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso will work?
[06:49] <alkisg> coec: I've no idea, it's a commercial application not supported here, so you can ask in their support channels
[06:49] <alkisg> coec: in their site, they say they support 14.04
[06:50] <j4f-shredder> B105PH3RE: thanks anyway, I would have liked not to be called a troll though
[06:50] <B105PH3RE> j4f-shredder: i never called you a troll
[06:50] <coec> alkisg: where can i find the exact ubuntu version of it and does it provide support?
[06:50] <coec> mm_: do you know the file signature of that file?
[06:51] <alkisg> coec: it's a commercial application not supported here, go to https://www.hopperapp.com/ and check what the supported methods are
[06:51] <j4f-shredder> this lightdm is horrible though
[06:51] <j4f-shredder> it really changed
[06:51] <j4f-shredder> the way it was on the default install
[06:52] <B105PH3RE> j4f-shredder: if your systems hanging on bootup for mysql you need to disable it on startup and see if that helps
[06:52] <j4f-shredder> I just did
[06:52] <j4f-shredder> and it worked
[06:52] <coec> mm_: this is not ubuntu question although I will help you. The problem is when you didn't safely remove drive: and look here for answers: http://superuser.com/questions/124690/what-can-i-do-with-chk-files-in-found-000-folders/226466
[06:52] <j4f-shredder> after reinstalling ubuntu desktop by terminal
[06:52] <B105PH3RE> do the same command as before but choose gdm3
[06:52] <coec> also try to look the files on hex editor and see if you can recover them
[06:52] <j4f-shredder> but now the design looks a little shitty
[06:52] <B105PH3RE> well its unity
[06:53] <B105PH3RE> i prefer xubuntu
[06:53] <j4f-shredder> no, its broken
[06:54] <j4f-shredder> noooooo
[06:54] <coec> alkisg: well thanks anyway for help i apperciate it
[06:54] <alkisg> coec: np
[06:55] <OerHeks> B105PH3RE, you broke it, fix it asap
[06:55] <B105PH3RE> broke what I didn't do nothing
[06:58] <j4f-shredder> now its ok
[06:58] <j4f-shredder> but menues look like shit
[06:58] <j4f-shredder> cant I install anything else apart from lighdm or the other one?
[06:59] <B105PH3RE> ya sure there a few out there but tread carefully you can break your system
[06:59] <B105PH3RE> kdm, slim,
[07:00] <B105PH3RE> and you can make your own login if you have the knowledge for such things
[07:00] <j4f-shredder> I just dont have the time
[07:00] <j4f-shredder> I will use one of those
[07:00] <j4f-shredder> but the menues look horrible
[07:01] <j4f-shredder> thanks
[07:01] <j4f-shredder> I will go now
[07:01] <j4f-shredder> goodbye
[07:01] <j4f-shredder> titor
[07:01] <B105PH3RE> laterz
[07:21] <iskola> hello
[07:25] <max12345> hey, I've set my computer to never check for updates
[07:25] <max12345> but it still does
[07:25] <max12345> why and how can I stop it
[07:25] <jk^> hi all
[07:26] <craptalk> is it possible to install both apache and nginx on ubuntu?
[07:26] <alkisg> max12345: how did you set it not to check for updates?
[07:26] <jk^> i found a web page within a little list of "emulator" on ubuntu/linux, this webpage talk about wine and another similar emulator to run windows program on linux/ubuntu, but i don't remember which is the second one in the list, can u help me?
[07:27] <cfhowlett> !wine | jk^
[07:27] <max12345> alkisg: in my settings "software and updates" -> "check for updates: never"
[07:28] <cfhowlett> max12345, ill-advised.  security-upgrades should be automated, no?
[07:28] <max12345> cfhowlett: I'm still updating, I'm just not updating in the middle of my work, like some other scrub OS
[07:29] <khosroanjam> hi
[07:30] <khosroanjam> guy please recommend me a good channel for backbox linux
[07:30] <cfhowlett> !backbox | khosroanjam
[07:30] <a777> hello
[07:30] <khosroanjam> thank you @cfhowlett
[07:31] <cfhowlett> happy2help! khosroanjam
[07:32] <alkisg> max12345: the "check for updates" is just an "apt-get update" in order to see if there are security updates; it doesn't force you to download the updates themselves...
[07:32] <alkisg> max12345: if you want to stop the apt-daily task too, one way is http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/315502/how-to-disable-apt-daily-service-on-ubuntu-cloud-vm-image
[07:35] <max12345> alkisg: thank you very much!
[07:36] <alkisg> max12345: np
[07:38] <max12345> alkisg: actually the question you linked has no answer :S
[07:38] <alkisg> max12345: of course it does, it says how to disable apt-daily
[07:39] <max12345> "This also means that there is basically no way of preventing apt.systemd.daily from running -- one can only kill it after it's started."
[07:39] <max12345> ?
[07:40] <max12345> I mean that's an answer in a way...
[07:40] <alkisg> max12345: that's a cloud thing, while apt daily can normally be stopped with the initial commands it says there
[07:40] <max12345> the ones mentioned in the question?
[07:40] <alkisg> max12345: ok see another one that doesn't mention cloud issues, e.g. https://cinhtau.net/wp/disable-apt-auto-update-and-upgrade/
[07:41] <alkisg> Those are the same commands, it just doesn't mention cloud issues there
[07:41] <max12345> ok alright
[07:49] <natan64> ehlo localhost
[07:50] <maxrafiandy> Helloo, ubuntu
[08:06] <teddy_berror> Just ran this in bash: http://pastebin.com/ZmhArdev am I too tired to be working or is this strange?
[08:08] <teddy_berror> it's gotta be some conflict between ubuntu usb-imagewriter and suse
[08:15] <modiofindia> i can't install linux
[08:15] <modiofindia> is sundar pichai here
[08:16] <modiofindia> i want donal trump back
[08:16] <modiofindia> i want to help hack
[08:40] <coec> hi
[08:41] <EriC^^> hi
[08:41] <coec> i have ubuntu 16.04 and what will dist-upgrade do?
[08:42] <EriC^^> coec: it'll update the packages and keep it 16.04
[08:42] <coec> and i will able to install libgnutls-dev?
[08:42] <EriC^^> !info libgnutls-dev xenial
[08:43] <EriC^^> coec: yes
[08:43] <coec> thanks
[08:43] <coec> i was wondering
[09:07] <lord-ragnarock> just did do install-upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 LTS. Now the login screen doesn't come up. When I type in lightdm from a TTY it gives me: "plymouth: symbol lookup error: plymouth: undefined symbol: ply_command_parser_add_command_alias"
[09:08] <lord-ragnarock> Oh yeah, and as always: Linux PowerPC ;)
[09:08] <EriC^^> lord-ragnarock: try sudo service lightdm restart
[09:09] <lord-ragnarock> Still just a blinking cursor :/
[09:10] <EriC^^> lord-ragnarock: did the upgrade give any warnings or so?
[09:11] <lord-ragnarock> a few. One about gtk3.0, another about unity, mostly dependency errors IIRC.
[09:11] <EriC^^> lord-ragnarock: try "sudo dpkg-configure -a" also "sudo apt-get -f install"
[09:11] <EriC^^> hold on there's a typo
[09:12] <EriC^^> try sudo apt-get -f install , i'll get you the other command
[09:12] <EriC^^> lord-ragnarock: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[09:13] <lord-ragnarock> "Correcting dependencies..." Oh wow I wonder what's going on now hahaha
[09:13] <EriC^^> hopefully good stuff :D
[09:13] <lord-ragnarock> I'm an Arch regular, but I put Ubuntu on this 1995 Power Mac to give it new life last week.
[09:13] <lord-ragnarock> Uh, what does that second command exactly do? :P
[09:14] <mnms_> Hi. I have 2 disks in software RAID 1(mirror) and each of them has swap and / partition. I would like to replace them with bigger disks. How should I do that? I should add bigger disk with swap and bigger / partition and add it to raid and then sync it with other smaller disk after sync remove smaller disks?
[09:14] <EriC^^> lord-ragnarock: the same thing i think
[09:14] <lord-ragnarock> looks like updating everything to the latest?
[09:15] <lord-ragnarock> 112MB. Not bad considering my HD's 16GB hahaha
[09:15] <EriC^^> lord-ragnarock: :D
[09:16] <lord-ragnarock> While that's going on, I feel like sharing what all this Mac can do now cause of Ubuntu :D
[09:16] <lord-ragnarock> For one the USB card works, so now I can use my wireless keyboard and my wireless-N stick
[09:16] <ca1hax> Hey Guys I have a laptop with Intel and Nvidia Drivers, I'm trying to use the open source driver for the nvidia card, but when I play games it uses the intel graphics, can I uninstall the intel graphics driver and only use the nvidia driver?
[09:17] <mnms_> or should I ask on ubuntu-server about raid stuff?
[09:17] <lord-ragnarock> And I can also use modern word processors and browse most of the modern web, except youtube cause it's only a 300MHz processor :)
[09:18] <lord-ragnarock> 22 years of a happy life, and this computer's still living it
[09:33] <anddam> Rhythmbox is not showing an ipod 2G connected to USB, both Files and Shotwell started and displayed their specific content tho'
[09:33] <anddam> what could this be? I don't have a "device" entry on left column
[09:37] <sobersabre> hi, dnsmasq questions.
[09:38] <sobersabre> I have configured dnsmasq (IMHO properly). now when I'm using tools like dig, I can resolve things, if I'm using nslookup - it works. if I do getent hosts <short name> and even <fqdn> it works.
[09:39] <tatertots> mnms_: in order to not have to ask a bunch of questions that may get vague answers do the following
[09:39] <sobersabre> But if in ~/.ssh/config Under Hostname I have fqdn, and I'm trying to connect to it - it does not work.
[09:39] <sobersabre> very weird.
[09:39] <tatertots> mnms_: in terminal>    sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[09:39] <sobersabre> ideas are welcome.
[09:40] <tatertots> mnms_: let me know when its done
[09:41] <lord-ragnarock> EriC^^, Oh sweet! I got lightdm now :D
[09:41] <lord-ragnarock> It's kind of a lower resolution than originally, but better than nothing
[09:41] <anddam> also in nautilus I see the "Documents on MyIpod" entry but I'm not sure how that's mounted
[09:41] <EriC^^> lord-ragnarock: great!
[09:42] <anddam> is it the gvfsd-fuse I see for /run/user/<myuid>
[09:42] <anddam> ?
[09:42] <anddam> I'd like to cd into that folder but I don't get how
[09:42] <lord-ragnarock> logging in to test
[09:42] <mnms_> tatertots: have it
[09:42] <tatertots> mnms_: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[09:43] <tatertots> mnms_: press enter, then share the url/link here
[09:43] <tatertots> mnms_: that's a number 0 not the letter O btw
[09:44] <lord-ragnarock> Looks like the whole update may have taken away xfce. let's install that real quick :P
[09:47] <Aliekezhi> hi, is there a clean way to swap from ubuntu to ubuntu-mate (removing everything linked with Unity Dekstop, to avoid configuration mixing and to gain in disk space) ?
[09:50] <EriC^^> Aliekezhi: there's no easy way to remove everything, sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop --autoremove     can get you a little close
[09:51] <Popzi> How to diagnose adapter dropping?   > Installed Ubuntu, network and usb interfaces work by default   > usb interface keeps dropping, stays connected but doesn't get data
[09:51] <B105PH3RE> ca1hax how did you install the nvidia drivers
[09:51] <Popzi> B105PH3RE: Start > Additional Drivers, usually
[09:52] <tatertots> mnms_: i'm all out of patience...but good luck with your endeavors ...take care
[09:54] <B105PH3RE> Popzi: start doesn't exist in linux its usualy unity menu or whisker menu then additional drivers which I know but ca1hax has two drivers installed at once and I don't know how he did it
[09:55] <badr_> how to calibre gamma
[09:55] <Popzi> B105PH3RE: Yea sorry i read it as "How do you" my bad, most folk come from a Windows background though ;)
[09:58] <one808> 123
[10:01] <B105PH3RE> 456
[10:05] <gianluca> hi guy
[10:07] <azizLIGHT> i used to have a package libqt5gui5-gles but ever since i tried to upgrade to hwe stack, its been uninstalled/disappeared and cannot be installed anymore: Package libqt5gui5-gles is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. // E: Package 'libqt5gui5-gles' has no installation candidate
[10:08] <badr> hello aziz
[10:09] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: which ubuntu version?
[10:09] <frankcant> ciao
[10:09] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: 14.04
[10:09] <frankcant> fuuuuu
[10:09] <EriC^^> !info libqt5gui5-gles trusty
[10:10] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: looks like it was removed or something
[10:10] <azizLIGHT> and because of me trying to enable hwe stack, now my notepadqq from ppa doesnt work either
[10:10] <azizLIGHT> because it depends on libqt5gui5-gles
[10:11] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052241/
[10:11] <badr> slm aziz
[10:11] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: how do i undo whatever hwe stack command did that disabled/killed all these packages
[10:12] <azizLIGHT> i thought hwe stack was only suppose to upgrade kernel and x
[10:12] <EriC^^> !Info libqt5svg5 trusty
[10:13] <EriC^^> !info libqt5svg5 trusty
[10:13] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: what does sudo apt-get install libqt5svg5 do?
[10:13] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: btw this is my /var/log/apt/term.log where it shows these things being removed when i did the hwe stack command
[10:13] <azizLIGHT> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052249/
[10:14] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: sudo apt-get install libqt5svg5 says http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052251/
[10:15] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: and sudo apt-get install libqt5gui5 ?
[10:16] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: that one says http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052258/
[10:16] <EriC^^> and sudo apt-get install libgbm1 ?
[10:17] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052268/
[10:17] <EriC^^> !info libgl1-mesa-dri trusty
[10:18] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: i think it's a ppa thing
[10:18] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: it expects version 11
[10:19] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: my /var/log/apt/history.log is http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052271/ and my var/log/apt/term.log is http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052249/
[10:19] <azizLIGHT> i can see it uninstalling a BUNCH of my packages in the hwe stack upgrade command
[10:19] <azizLIGHT> and yes some might be from ppa. definitely notepadqq
[10:19] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: yes, i think it found dependency issues that won't be satisfied and started removing them
[10:20] <EriC^^> maybe the ppa is made to work with trusty without the new xorg stuff so it just went bazerk
[10:20] <EriC^^> why don't you install 16.04?
[10:20] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: well that kernel doesnt work for me, it hangs on boot when it tries to unlock my luks, so that hwe stack is useless for me
[10:20] <azizLIGHT> how can i undo the hwe stack command and go back to the way things were
[10:20] <azizLIGHT> and get back my ppas
[10:20] <azizLIGHT> and notepadqq
[10:21] <tatertots> azizLIGHT: just restore your system from the daily backups that you create as part of your disaster recovery plan or procedure
[10:21] <tatertots> :)
[10:21] <azizLIGHT> if only
[10:21] <frankcant> weeee
[10:22] <tatertots> azizLIGHT: wait...you don't have a disaster recovery plan or procedure do you?
[10:22] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: maybe switch the packages it removed and installed, get the list of packages it installed and the ones it removed and reverse stuff in one apt-get command
[10:22] <bazhang> frankcant, ubuntu support issue?
[10:22] <frankcant> ve puzza er culo
[10:22] <bazhang> azizLIGHT, with PPA thats already a bell that cannot be unrung
[10:23] <bazhang> frankcant, please take the random chatter to another channel, this is support only
[10:24] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: i think adding a + to the end of the package name installs it, so "sudo apt-get remove <hwe stuff> oldstuff1+ oldstuff2+ etc
[10:24] <EriC^^> maybe it can figure it out
[10:25] <badr> #b
[10:25] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: use sed to clean up the line with the packages
[10:27] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: sed -e 's/([^()]*)//g' -e 's/,//g' /file    removes everything between the () and removes the comma
[10:30] <azizLIGHT> so many packages rtemoved
[10:30] <azizLIGHT> how can i replace the space with a + and space
[10:31] <EriC^^> for the other ones instead of removing the , do sed -e 's/ ,/+/g'
[10:33] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: heres the command that did everything: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052312/ ... and heres the potential reversing command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052311/
[10:33] <azizLIGHT> what do you think
[10:33] <aladeen> hello friend next day my class have project and teacher saying "give me ur project in USB" i was thinking to give usb of full virus , i need ur help brother :) ?
[10:34] <EriC^^> aladeen: that's a bad idea
[10:34] <EriC^^> although funny
[10:35] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: does it match do you think?
[10:35] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: yeah
[10:35] <EriC^^> give it a shot!
[10:35] <aladeen> Eric^^ my teacher never miss chance of insulting me in stand of all student
[10:35] <bazhang> !ot | aladeen
[10:35] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: could u please try and compile the command and see if it matches mine ? before i attempt this
[10:35] <EriC^^> aladeen: yeah some are like that, she probably doesn't get a lot of bed action ;)
[10:36] <bazhang> aladeen, take the chit chat somewher else
[10:36] <EriC^^> hopefully she's hot so it makes it up
[10:36] <aladeen> yeah
[10:36] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: ok
[10:37] <aladeen> bazhang how u breath ? when somebody insulting you in class for nothing then satisfying her ego
[10:37] <bazhang> aladeen, this is not topical here at all
[10:37] <bazhang> aladeen, so please stop and take the chit chat to some other place
[10:38] <aladeen> rule are made for broke if u dont allow then ready for somebody else _ALADEEN
[10:41] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: this is what i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052336/
[10:42] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: sorry, it should be "remove" not install
[10:42] <EriC^^> hmm why's mine longer?
[10:44] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: oh i used the "command line" line
[10:44] <Lavinho> good morning
[10:44] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: and you used the "install:" line
[10:44] <azizLIGHT> i think
[10:44] <azizLIGHT> yours is better, let me double check it
[10:44] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: alright
[10:47] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: im not sure why im still getting different
[10:47] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: pastebin it
[10:47] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: https://www.diffchecker.com/HOdAw4gA
[10:47] <azizLIGHT> yours is on the right
[10:48] <EriC^^> i think it's just the spaces
[10:49] <azizLIGHT> i mean i can sit down and do it one by one
[10:49] <azizLIGHT> but theres got to be a better way
[10:49] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: it's correct, both are right
[10:50] <EriC^^> the first one has an extra space between the packages, it's np
[10:50] <azizLIGHT> really??
[10:50] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:51] <EriC^^> try it out, if you want you could run with apt-get -s for a simulation first
[10:57] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: heres the apt-get -s http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052374/
[10:58] <azizLIGHT> what do you think...
[11:01] <sruli> where can i edit the keyboard shortcuts in ubuntu-gnome (command-line not gui)
[11:05] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: looks very good!
[11:05] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: it doesnt look like itll have errors right
[11:05] <EriC^^> yeah
[11:05] <azizLIGHT> i dont see the gles package in here though
[11:06] <azizLIGHT> libqt5gui5-gles
[11:06] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:06] <azizLIGHT> is it a dependency in one of my ppa i guess?
[11:06] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: yeah it doesn't seem to be part of the trusty rpo
[11:07] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: maybe reinstalling the ppa will fix it afterwards
[11:08] <azizLIGHT> wish me luck
[11:09] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: good luck!
[11:19] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: got some issues: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052559/
[11:20] <azizLIGHT> line 3621 onwards i think
[11:20] <azizLIGHT> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:22] <azizLIGHT> also got a gui dialog error box complaining about http://i.imgur.com/yeNu6Qt.png
[11:23] <azizLIGHT> oops. this is a better pic: http://i.imgur.com/g2RiwZG.png
[11:24] <azizLIGHT> part 2: http://i.imgur.com/apO92xA.png
[11:25] <azizLIGHT> part 3: http://i.imgur.com/rlL72nC.png
[11:26] <azizLIGHT> part 4: http://i.imgur.com/eRXDOZu.png
[11:26] <azizLIGHT> hmm
[11:26] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: should i reboot or do something before that
[11:27] <anddam> I get banshee stuck when importing either media from a folder or the rythmbox library
[11:28] <anddam> how can I get some further information on what's wrong? it's not printing anything relevant (actually, at all) in stdout
[11:31] <sruli> where can i edit the keyboard shortcuts in ubuntu-gnome (command-line not gui)
[11:31] <craptalk> sruli: did you check the setting already?
[11:32] <sruli> craptalk: i want to edit it from command line not gui
[11:33] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: is the xorg edgers ppa still installed?
[11:33] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: its installed yes
[11:34] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:34] <craptalk> sruli: maybe this -> http://askubuntu.com/questions/597395/how-to-set-custom-keyboard-shortcuts-from-terminal
[11:34] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: what does apt-cache policy libgl1-mesa-dri   give?
[11:35] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: when i did configure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052609/
[11:35] <joel___> can i have a regex for this pattern H/30 * * * *
[11:35] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: the policy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052612/
[11:35] <joel___> ideally this is a cron
[11:37] <craptalk> this is http://termbin.com/y8wk , my partition layout which is using gpt. my question is, since GPT permits upto 128 primary partition, can i just right away installing another OS in it, without doing manipulation first like when it was using MBR?
[11:37] <Tazmain> Hi all, is there a way to install automake 1.13, apt-get install automake=1.13 is not found
[11:37] <sruli> craptalk: thanks
[11:38] <EriC^^> craptalk: yeah, you'll just need to shrink the partition and you can use the unallocated space for another OS
[11:38] <craptalk> EriC^^: how to shrink?
[11:39] <EriC^^> craptalk: boot a live usb and use gparted
[11:40] <craptalk> since i just fresh installed my new OS for my whole space, is it going to be a problem with my current OS?
[11:40] <craptalk> maybe shrink local disk C in windows assumingly?
[11:40] <craptalk> is it good to do?
[11:40] <craptalk> i got 1 TB
[11:41] <craptalk> i put it all for my ubuntu-gnome currently
[11:41] <ajay_> knj
[11:42] <EriC^^> craptalk: i didnt understand
[11:42] <EriC^^> craptalk: you wanna install windows and asking to shrink in the installer?
[11:42] <craptalk> no
[11:43] <craptalk> is it okay to shrink the already containing OS which my ubuntu-gnome?
[11:43] <craptalk> which is*
[11:43] <EriC^^> craptalk: yeah, it's np
[11:43] <craptalk> i am afraid it will be issues like corrupted files or like so
[11:43] <EriC^^> boot a live usb and use gparted to shrink it, not from the actual install that's running
[11:44] <EriC^^> nah
[11:44] <craptalk> alright
[11:44] <craptalk> that sounds good
[11:44] <aladeen> hei
[11:44] <EriC^^> craptalk: always backup your important files first
[11:44] <craptalk> damn, i just use windows for gaming, otherwise it is nothing for me to stay
[11:45] <craptalk> hopefully linux like, would be promising in gaming-world in the future
[11:45] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: do you need the xorg edgers ppa? it might help if it was removed
[11:46] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: i think i can remove it
[11:46] <aladeen> gujju
[11:46] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: i use the semi-official ppa instead
[11:46] <EriC^^> hey aladeen
[11:46] <aladeen> yes eric^^
[11:47] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: should i remove it?
[11:47] <EriC^^> craptalk: yeah maybe one day soon
[11:47] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: sure it 's worth a shot
[11:48] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: how can i check if therse any packages installed from that ppa
[11:49] <aladeen> sureshk how r u bro
[11:50] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: this is the command ill use: sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[11:50] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: try dpkg -l | awk '$1 == "ii" {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | grep -C10 xorg-edgers
[11:50] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: use ppa-purge it's better it also reverts the packages to the repo ones
[11:51] <aladeen> koi indi wala
[11:52] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: thers a decent amount from xorgedgers. i think this wasnt the case earlier
[11:52] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052662/
[11:53] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: ill use sudo ppa-purge ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[11:54] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: alright
[11:54] <aladeen> aizz
[11:57] <Guest38261> hi how can i download this package? https://launchpad.net/~sergey-dryabzhinsky/+archive/ubuntu/php53/+build/11804935
[11:58] <FinalX> you really don't want to
[12:00] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: when i did the ppa-purge, i got a prompt about a solution to accept or not: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052686/
[12:00] <FinalX> Guest38261: PHP 5.3 was native to Ubuntu 12.04 (precise), and its LTS status and security updates end in April this year, so little over a month from now. Third-party PPA's also stopped doing it and places that are making it available ignore security updates. PHP 5.3 has been end of support since august 14, 2014.
[12:00] <FinalX> And before that it was already a year or two end of life.
[12:01] <FinalX> Upgrade, now.
[12:02] <Guest38261> FinalX: it's 2 days i'm working on trying to get sugar crm work so i'm not trying to play to have fun.... sugar crm ce works with php 5.2 5.3
[12:02] <Guest38261> i have serious problems with php 7....
[12:03] <FinalX> Upgrade, now. You should've upgraded in 2008.
[12:03] <Guest38261> i need to know how to get that package or i'll ned exnial to use this : https://launchpad.net/~sergey-dryabzhinsky/+archive/ubuntu/php53/+build/11804935
[12:03] <Guest38261> Finalx tired to explain Sugar crm 6.5 is the latest version and it's working with php 5.2 5.3... tired to explain to everyone
[12:04] <FinalX> No, there's no explanation, use different software if you can't upgrade. The software should've been upgraded years ago.
[12:04] <FinalX> Support has ended years ago. Security updates will no longer be done.
[12:04] <FinalX> Upgrade, now.
[12:04] <ikevin> Guest38261, install the ppa
[12:05] <Guest38261> ikevin xerial not mine 16:10
[12:05] <ikevin> Guest38261, there are packages for xenial, trusty or precise
[12:05] <ikevin> https://launchpad.net/~sergey-dryabzhinsky/+archive/ubuntu/php53
[12:05] <FinalX> Seriously, there's not a lot of incompatibilities between 5.3 and 5.6. Class inheritance and register_globals that have been off by default for a decade now.
[12:06] <FinalX> I understand you have serious problems with 7, but 5.6 might work just fine.
[12:06] <FinalX> And 5.6 on xenial is supported until what, 2021?
[12:06] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: hmm i'd abort it looks like it's removing a lot of packages that dont have anything to do with it
[12:07] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: hmm
[12:07] <FinalX> oh ehm, I'm sorry, xenial and up all have 7, of course (as they should..) .. Debian jessie instead then? or PPA 5.6?
[12:07] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: ill hit q then?
[12:07] <azizLIGHT> or n
[12:07] <EriC^^> yeah quit
[12:07] <FinalX> alternatively, a lot of problems with 5.3 => 7.0 come from mysql_* being used; change that to mysqli_* stuff and it might already work :p
[12:08] <azizLIGHT> ok, i aborted it
[12:08] <FinalX> or install lxc and make a precise container :p
 alternatively, a lot of problems with 5.3 => 7.0 come from mysql_* being used; change that to mysqli_* stuff and it might already work :p <== function mysql_connect ( ... ) { return mysqli_connect ( ... ); }
[12:09] <FinalX> it's not just _connect.. and they're not identical, either :)
[12:09] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: not sure what to do now :(
[12:10] <FinalX> Guest38261: the link you gave states: BEWARE! PHP 5.3 is officially EOL. No security patches any more. Not recommended to use. Only if things (code) really bad. All users encouraged to switch to the most recent version!
[12:10] <FinalX> Going back to my original point: Upgrade, now. Even that repository is not giving you security fixes anymore.
[12:10] <FinalX> Situations like this is what causes so many problems in the world.
[12:11] <FinalX> Unmaintained sites, unfixed PHP versions, thousands of sites exploited and DDoS'ing all over. People like me are the ones having to clean it up.
[12:12] <FinalX> Had a 900mbit outgoing DDoS of a customer to an Isrealian embassy the other day because he hadn't upgraded his CMS for years. And then tried to tell us it was our fault :p
[12:12] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: try dpkg -l | awk '$1 == "ii" {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | grep -B1 "Installed.*git"
[12:13] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: result of that command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052738/
[12:16] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: try dpkg -l | awk '$1 == "ii" {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | grep -B7 xorg-edgers | grep -B1 Installed
[12:17] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: empty result
[12:18] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: does dpkg -l | awk '$1 == "ii" {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | grep -B7 xorg-edgers     show anything?
[12:18] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: nope
[12:19] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: aha i think ppa-purge removed it
[12:19] <azizLIGHT> it must have
[12:20] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: try apt-cache policy libegl1-mesa
[12:20] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052760/
[12:20] <azizLIGHT> weird
[12:20] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: it didn't revert the files though
[12:21] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: let's work with the older paste you had that had the stuff
[12:21] <EriC^^> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052662/
[12:22] <azizLIGHT> its listing the candidates
[12:22] <azizLIGHT> so seems like we have to manually remove those packages and revert them to repo versions?
[12:24] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: i have this til now http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052790/
[12:27] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: this is the list of the packages that are using xorg-edgers http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052805/
[12:28] <EriC^^> i wonder if we --reinstall if it would install the older version
[12:30] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-neomagic
[12:31] <azizLIGHT> hm
[12:31] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: i have a typo in the list, i removed the : before i386 by accident
[12:31] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: did the reinstall work?
[12:31] <azizLIGHT> trying it now
[12:32] <EriC^^> updated list http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052829/
[12:32] <azizLIGHT> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052828/ E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[12:33] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: are you using the pc right now?
[12:33] <azizLIGHT> yes i am
[12:34] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: is it a 32bit pc?
[12:34] <azizLIGHT> its 64 bit
[12:35] <azizLIGHT> ive had to install some 32 bit stuff because of wine i think
[12:35] <EriC^^> i see
[12:37] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: try to temporarily remove libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 so the dependencies get satisfied
[12:38] <azizLIGHT> sudo apt-get purge libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 ?
[12:38] <azizLIGHT> should i do that?
[12:39] <Guest16243> Hi everyone, yesterday I launched the checkbox test then i canceled it and now I have a problem with the sound it makes parasitic noise on speakers and headset whenever I play music or a video, HELP PLEASE.
[12:39] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: what does apt-cache policy libgl1-mesa-dri:i386   give?
[12:40] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: earlier it was installed with version 11 before ppa-purge
[12:40] <azizLIGHT> apt-cache policy libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052857/
[12:40] <azizLIGHT> i havent done sudo apt-get purge libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 yet
[12:40] <azizLIGHT> shold i do it?
[12:42] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: try sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri:i386
[12:42] <azizLIGHT> sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052867/ E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[12:43] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: try sudo apt-get -f install    maybe it can fix it
[12:44] <azizLIGHT> sudo apt-get -f install libgl1-mesa-dri:i386, right
[12:44] <EriC^^> nope just sudo apt-get -f install
[12:45] <azizLIGHT> sudo apt-get -f install http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052874/
[12:45] <azizLIGHT> i dont mind removeing crossover and wine
[12:45] <raub> So I have a 16.04 box here and last night I turned both monitors off instead of letting them go to powersaving mode. This morning I am being told the second display is disabled and I have no signal going to it.
[12:45] <mahakal> Someone up
[12:46] <raub> Short of doing a Windows, anything I can do?
[12:46] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: ok go for it
[12:46] <mahakal> Hi guys
[12:46] <EriC^^> hi mahakal
[12:46] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: completed ok
[12:46] <mahakal> i have some question about GRUB boot loader on ubuntu 14.04
[12:46] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: ok, try to reinstall a package to see if it'll get the older version instead
[12:47] <azizLIGHT> like this one? sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri:i386
[12:47] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[12:47] <azizLIGHT> ok
[12:47] <mahakal> I have installed grub-pc package in order to update grub
[12:47] <azizLIGHT> sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-radeon http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052881/
[12:47] <EriC^^> mahakal: why are you updating grub?
[12:48] <paws> my /boot is full, can somebody tell me what can i delete from here: http://pastebin.ca/3771224
[12:48] <mahakal> because there was a lot confusion
[12:48] <mahakal> like
[12:49] <mahakal> when i interrupt the boot process it shows "grub 2.." but manually checking it was giving "grub 0.97"
[12:49] <mahakal> now grub-pc has been successfully installed
[12:49] <mahakal> but
[12:50] <mahakal> it is not active
[12:50] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: i think it's still trying to get the xorg-edgers version somehow
[12:50] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: try apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[12:51] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: it still is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052886/
[12:51] <EriC^^> paws: type "uname -r"   what kernel are you running right now?
[12:51] <azizLIGHT> do i need to do a sudo apt-get update?
[12:51] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: yes
[12:51] <Trion> I have dual booted Windows 10 and Ubuntu, sometimes when I start the bootloading screen for selecting the OS doesn't work. It starts to work if I use Windows for a while and then restart the laptop
[12:52] <EriC^^> mahakal: aha
[12:52] <paws> EriC^^: 4.4.0-63-generic
[12:52] <mahakal> boot/grub/grub.cfg  and boot/grub/main.lst exist at same time
[12:52] <mahakal> so i think there is one last step that i am missing for completely installing the new version
[12:52] <EriC^^> mahakal: try "dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link it gives you here
[12:53] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: after sudo apt-get update, i tried apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-radeon and i still got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052893/
[12:53] <Trion> Any permanent solution for the grub screen?
[12:53] <EriC^^> paws: ok, type "ls /boot | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link it gives you here
[12:54] <EriC^^> Trion: what do you mean by it doesn't work?
[12:54] <Trion> Keyboard keys do not give any response
[12:55] <mahakal> Eric : i have done that
[12:55] <mahakal> how to submit that however?
[12:55] <paws> http://termbin.com/7c0t
[12:57] <mahakal> Eric : Are you there ?
[12:59] <EriC^^> mahakal: copy and paste the link here
[12:59] <mahakal> i have done that...but there is no submit button
[12:59] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: i'm pretty stumped
[13:00] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: i got an idea, try to remove the package
[13:00] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[13:00] <EriC^^> mahakal: did it give you a link http://termbin.com/something ?
[13:00] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: i still have a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xorg-edgers-ppa-trusty.list
[13:00] <mahakal> yup
[13:01] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: it's commented out though inside the file no?
[13:01] <sobersabre> hi. is the kvm shipped with ubuntu 16.04 good to run windows10 64bit ? any special things I should be aware of ?
[13:01] <mahakal> and i click it ..chrome open with the dpkg output pasted there
[13:01] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: ah yea it is
[13:01] <EriC^^> mahakal: ok copy the link here, highlight it then press here the middle mouse button to paste
[13:02] <mahakal> http://termbin.com/04o7
[13:02] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: it wants to remove a bunch of stuff: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052915/
[13:02] <EriC^^> paws: sudo apt-get purge --autoremove vmlinuz-4.4.0-{21,45,47,51,53,57,59,62}-generic
[13:02] <EriC^^> paws: sorry typo
[13:02] <EriC^^> paws: sudo apt-get purge --autoremove linux-image-4.4.0-{21,45,47,51,53,57,59,62}-generic
[13:03] <tcpdump> Hey everyone
[13:03] <tcpdump> Anyone ever run Ubuntu on a surface tablet?
[13:03] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: should i do it
[13:04] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: yes it's just deleting the 3 packages at the bottom
[13:04] <azizLIGHT> done
[13:04] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: ok, try to reinstall them now
[13:04] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[13:05] <azizLIGHT> im checking the apt-cache policy, and i dont see the git thing
[13:05] <EriC^^> nice
[13:05] <azizLIGHT> looks like we found a way
[13:05] <azizLIGHT> installed those 3
[13:05] <EriC^^> nice!
[13:05] <mahakal> Congrats azizLIGHT
[13:05] <paws> thanx a lot EriC^^
[13:06] <mahakal> Eric: the url is http://termbin.com/04o7
[13:06] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: now i guess the idea is to remove the xorg-edgers packages and install the old ones with it still working
[13:06] <EriC^^> paws: no problem
[13:06] <proxx_> I have a Corosync node which returns to status pending after reboot,  anyone any idea how to autostart it ?
[13:07] <proxx_> pcs cluster start works, just not automated
[13:07] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: heres a bit of the log of that 3 install: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052928/
[13:07] <tcpdump> ubuntu does have tablet support (touchscreen)?
[13:07] <Welastevil> hi folks!
[13:07] <EriC^^> mahakal: ok, type sudo apt-get purge grub-efi-amd64 grub-efi-amd64-bin grub
[13:07] <Welastevil> Im a bit worried about something....
[13:08] <Welastevil> I used the 'ifconfig' command...
[13:08] <Welastevil> and the output was too long
[13:08] <Welastevil> http://pastebin.com/8qrrBuQt
[13:08] <Welastevil> but I don't realy understood why...
[13:08] <mahakal> EriC : ARE you sure..as this can be risky
[13:08] <mahakal> ?
[13:09] <Welastevil> could someone give me some help to understand the output?
[13:09] <Welastevil> http://pastebin.com/8qrrBuQt
[13:09] <tcpdump> Welastevil: why is that too ling?
[13:09] <Welastevil> too ling?
[13:09] <Welastevil> what do you mean?
[13:09] <tcpdump> fw0: is an interface, and then everything below that is the attributes of the adapter.
[13:09] <tcpdump> lo0: , for example, is your loopback.
[13:10] <tcpdump> Its ip address is 127.0.0.1, etc.
[13:10] <Welastevil> ok...
[13:10] <Welastevil> but is there something wrong?
[13:10] <tcpdump> en1, for example, would be your first phsyical ethernet adapter.
[13:10] <Welastevil> usually the output was short than it
[13:10] <EriC^> azizLIGHT: i got dc
[13:10] <tcpdump> Depends on what you're trying to do...
[13:11] <EriC^> mahakal: did the command work?
[13:11] <Welastevil> mm
[13:11] <azizLIGHT> EriC^: oh oops
[13:11] <Welastevil> I was trying just check it to use 'ncmatrix'
[13:11] <tcpdump> it looks like your ethernet adapter is connected, with IP 192.168.0.101?
[13:11] <EriC^> azizLIGHT: the paste looks great
[13:11] <azizLIGHT> EriC^: last line you said was EriC^^ │ mahakal: ok, type sudo apt-get purge grub-efi-amd64 grub-efi-amd64-bin grub
[13:11] <EriC^> azizLIGHT: maybe the trick with the remove and package1+ package2+ might work here
[13:12] <mahakal> its going to remove something ..The line goes as """" The following packages will be REMOVED:
[13:12] <mahakal>   grub* grub-efi-amd64* grub-efi-amd64-bin*
[13:12] <mahakal> ""
[13:12] <mahakal> should i let it do this ?
[13:13] <Welastevil> ncmatrix -b -u 10 -I eth1 -T magenta -R red
[13:13] <Welastevil> this command isnt working
[13:13] <tcpdump> Welastevil: wth are you actually trying to achieve?
[13:13] <Welastevil> it says that I need to find out about my connection using ifconfig
[13:13] <tcpdump> or you just playing?
[13:14] <LuMint> hi guys. i'm running 3.13.0.-107 kernel and now I see that 3.13.0-108 is available. Where do I look for the changelog?
[13:14] <tcpdump> Im trying to understand what you're trying to achieve.
[13:14] <mahakal> Eric^ : should i go for that ?
[13:14] <Welastevil> kida playing with this ncmatrix
[13:14] <tcpdump> man ncmatrix
[13:15] <LuMint> tcpdump: i'm just looking for the changelog for 3.13.0-108
[13:15] <tcpdump> sorry LuMint that was for Welastevil
[13:15] <EriC^> mahakal: yes
[13:15] <LuMint> ah ok
[13:16] <LuMint> could anybody please enlighten me on 3.13.0-108? I wonder if I should install it, can't find any info on the release.
[13:16] <tarball> hello community! is it possible to recover data that was saved on live dvd in the previous session?
[13:16] <tarball> does i.e. Testdisk work on dvd?
[13:16] <azizLIGHT> EriC^: so do i want to remove and reinstall these same packages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052829/
[13:16] <ersandro> tarball: nope
[13:16] <EriC^> azizLIGHT: who knows, http://termbin.com/8knv
[13:17] <EriC^> it might just work maybe
[13:17] <mahakal> Eric^: these are the last line from output of that command :::
[13:17] <mahakal> Removing grub (0.97-29ubuntu66) ...
[13:17] <mahakal> Purging configuration files for grub (0.97-29ubuntu66) ...
[13:17] <mahakal> Removing grub-efi-amd64 (2.02~beta2-9) ...
[13:17] <mahakal> Purging configuration files for grub-efi-amd64 (2.02~beta2-9) ...
[13:17] <mahakal> ucfr: Association belongs to grub-pc, not grub-efi-amd64
[13:17] <tcpdump> LuMint: found this via the google machine: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kernel-package/+changelog
[13:17] <Welastevil> do you have any idea why is the output of 'ifconfig' is so long?
[13:17] <tcpdump> Welastevil: I just explained that...
[13:17] <Aliekezhi> hi, my ubuntu can't start anymore and is trying to start lightdm in a loop with failure forever, any idea how I can stop the boot and manually start a X session ?
[13:17] <Welastevil> sorry...
[13:17] <tarball> no hope?
[13:17] <tcpdump> You have  a ton of interfaces.
[13:17] <Welastevil> mm I sse
[13:17] <LuMint> tcpdump: thanks a lot!
[13:18] <tcpdump> Some physical, some virtual.
[13:18] <Aliekezhi> (by the way, no other tty than F1 are up)
[13:18] <Welastevil> and it is not necessary right?
[13:18] <tcpdump> well, it depends...
[13:18] <EriC^> mahakal: if you need to paste stuff go to http://paste.ubuntu.com cause the bot would ban you if you do longer lines
[13:18] <Welastevil> depends about what?
[13:18] <tcpdump> i saw a tunnel interface, which is typically a vpn client.
[13:18] <tcpdump> Do you need a VPN client?
[13:18] <mahakal> oh ok ..i would take care from now
[13:18] <Welastevil> nope
[13:18] <Welastevil> so...ca I swich it off?
[13:18] <LuMint> there's one thing I've been meaning to ask. There's a new CVE out there, expoiting DCCP. I'd like to turn it off. Will creating /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-dccp.conf and adding the 4 lines to it do? https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2017/CVE-2017-6074.html
[13:18] <tcpdump> I mean, only you know if you need all those interfaces.
[13:19] <Welastevil> yes...I dont need..not really
[13:19] <EriC^> mahakal: try dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999      again to see the output now
[13:19] <mahakal> ok
[13:19] <Welastevil> I think that I put that by accident
[13:19] <tcpdump> Welastevil: typically you need to uninstall whatever created the interfaces.
[13:19] <Welastevil> how to erase that?
[13:19] <EriC^> Aliekezhi: does the guest account work?
[13:19] <Welastevil> mmm I ssee
[13:19] <azizLIGHT> EriC^: maybe it needs to be done in 2 seperate steps, remove and hten install? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052978/
[13:20] <Welastevil> Can it make some damage or make my pc slow...or intenet cnnections slow or doesnt really metter?
[13:20] <EriC^> azizLIGHT: yup seems so
[13:20] <EriC^> azizLIGHT: i hope it doesn't want to remove a bunch of other stuff though
[13:20] <mahakal> Eric^: http://termbin.com/v3fy
[13:20] <tcpdump> Welastevil: are you asking if there's any risk in removing interfaces arbitrarily?  The answer is, of course.
[13:20] <EriC^> azizLIGHT: try with -s first
[13:21] <EriC^> mahakal: it looks good, run "sudo update-grub" for good measure
[13:21] <Welastevil> nope
[13:21] <mahakal> Eric^:OK
[13:21] <Welastevil> Im asking if its f let it be what ever it may be inactive...
[13:22] <Welastevil> just leting it there....nao worries about this long output?
[13:22] <azizLIGHT> EriC^: when i try to remove only: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052991/
[13:22] <tarball> but there are proprietary software to recover data from live dvd..is there really no tool to do it on ubuntu?
[13:23] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: try sudo apt-get -f install; sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:23] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: not much going on there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052995/
[13:24] <EriC^^> tarball: live dvd or live usb?
[13:24] <EriC^^> tarball: you mean you have a live usb that has persistence and you want to recover the data from there?
[13:24] <mahakal> EriC^: i have done that url is http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052996/
[13:25] <mahakal> EriC^: i have done that url is paste.ubuntu.com/24052996/
[13:25] <Razva> one of the things I enjoy with Microsoft RDC is the fact that the remote desktop "syncs" with the local device: same resolution, sound etc. is there any VNC app that can do this for Ubuntu/Lubuntu?
[13:26] <Aliekezhi> EriC^^, I don't have access to my login session
[13:27] <alkisg> Razva, have you seen x2go?
[13:28] <Razva> alkisg: I'm on a Mac, I can see that x2g has a Mac client
[13:28] <Aliekezhi> EriC^^, I only see the ubuntu logo and can see the message of lightdm trying to start forever while pressing F1
[13:28] <EriC^^> Aliekezhi: oh ok
[13:28] <EriC^^> so the login screen never appears
[13:28] <darksa> ccc
[13:28] <Aliekezhi> EriC^^, I would like to interrupt this and be able to have a terminal access
[13:28] <tarball> Eric^^ I wish it were that :) no, it is a live dvd
[13:29] <EriC^^> Aliekezhi: try ctrl+alt+f1
[13:29] <Aliekezhi> EriC^^, I'm already there
[13:29] <EriC^^> tarball: aha, that's pretty interesting
[13:29] <Aliekezhi> EriC^^, but no login is asked, I see for ever the message [FAILED] failed to start lightdm
[13:30] <tarball> Eric^^ do you think it's worth a try with testdisk?
[13:30] <EriC^^> tarball: not sure what to suggest for it except maybe try photorec or testdisk, there are a lot of tools for data recovery in ubuntu
[13:31] <Welastevil> if not...its ok... i dont think it an mean any harm...
[13:31] <tarball> Eric^^ I never had experience with these on a dvd, I hope one of them works
[13:31] <EriC^^> tarball: try to join ##linux and ask there as well, they might know about it
[13:31] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: what else should i try
[13:32] <EriC^^> mahakal: aha, something is a little weird about the efi there
[13:33] <anddam> can I emulate middle button on a laptop?
[13:33] <anddam> I'd like to alt-resize my windows like I used with an actual 3-buttons mouse
[13:33] <alkisg> tarball: you ran a live dvd and created a document or something, and you saved it to ram, and now you want to find it again after reboot???
[13:33] <anddam> or, rebind the resize action to alt-right click maybe
[13:34] <EriC^^> mahakal: can you type        (ls /sys/firmware/efi; sudo parted -l; cat /etc/fstab) |& nc termbin.com 9999     ?
[13:34] <mahakal> ok
[13:34] <EriC^^> thanks
[13:34] <Aliekezhi> EriC^^, well actually I used the recovery mode, that's the only way I found to have an access
[13:34] <erwin> hello guys
[13:35] <mahakal> Ok done that
[13:35] <mahakal> http://termbin.com/szpc
[13:35] <EriC^^> Aliekezhi: aha, the logs for lightdm might show some info about the problem, they're in /var/log/lightdm   also try using an older kernel if it happened after a restart
[13:36] <easyOnMe> hi everyone
[13:36] <EriC^^> mahakal: aha, you need to install grub-efi cause you're using uefi
[13:36] <easyOnMe> I know this is a no no but just now
[13:36] <easyOnMe> I just shutdown my linux because my browser hang up and the whole laptop hang up too
[13:36] <Aliekezhi> EriC^^, I'm really astonished that a simple error with session/DM blocks everything like this...Usually it's possible (on other distributions :p) to change tty and startx manually etc
[13:36] <easyOnMe> While that happened I was installing netbeans
[13:37] <Aliekezhi> EriC^^, ty for the log path
[13:37] <EriC^^> mahakal: type sudo apt-get purge grub-pc grub-pc-bin; sudo apt-get install grub-efi-amd64-signed
[13:37] <tarball> alkisg, I saved it on 'Documents' folder of the live ubuntu dvd-
[13:37] <easyOnMe> so I do not know how to continue the installation from where it left off
[13:37] <easyOnMe> any command I can use to continue the unfinished installation
[13:37] <alkisg> tarball: this is in RAM, not in a hard disk. RAM by definition gets erased when the power is lost (reboots etc)
[13:38] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: is it even safe for me to reboot at this point
[13:38] <alkisg> tarball: the live DVD uses the DVD and the computer RAM to "emulate" a writeable system, so anything that you save on desktop etc in the live session, end up in RAM, and are completely lost on reboots
[13:39] <tarball> alkisg, there is no such thing as RAM data recovery?
[13:40] <alkisg> tarball: after reboot, no, not really
[13:40] <tarball> alkisg..oh
[13:40] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: maybe if you remove them one by one it won't much of a problem? hold on
[13:40] <mahakal> Eric^: done
[13:41] <EriC^^> mahakal: ok, try "sudo grub-install; sudo update-grub"
[13:41] <LuMint> There's a new CVE out there, expoiting DCCP. I'd like to turn it off. Will creating /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-dccp.conf and adding the 4 lines to it do? https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2017/CVE-2017-6074.html
[13:42] <LuMint> in short, how do I disable DCCP?
[13:42] <alkisg> easyOnMe: usually "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" are enough, and if it needs something more like dpkg --configure -a, it will prompt you to run it
[13:42] <mahakal> Eric when grub-pc is not removd,it said "if you remove grub-pc the system will not reboot next time until you have new config file"
[13:42] <mahakal> so choose no to remove it
[13:42] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: save this file http://termbin.com/71rt
[13:42] <mahakal> did i do wrong..
[13:43] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: then try    for i in $(cat filehere); do sudo apt-get purge "$i"; done    see what happens
[13:44] <easyOnMe> alkisg: you mean it will continue the unfinished netbeans installation I happened to disrupt when I shutdown my laptop with a long press
[13:44] <alkisg> easyOnMe: yes
[13:44] <EriC^^> mahakal: hmm, did the last command work correctly?
[13:45] <EriC^^> sudo grub-install; sudo update-grub ?
[13:45] <easyOnMe> alkisg: I see ok let me do that then and I will update you after
[13:45] <easyOnMe> thanks
[13:46] <easyOnMe> alkisg: no it did not work
[13:46] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: how do i save a log of that, output is too long for scrollback
[13:46] <easyOnMe> netbeans installation never continued
[13:46] <alkisg> easyOnMe: "did not work" is too generic, what was the output?
[13:46] <mahakal> Eric^^;connection is slow.i dont think i will be able to do the update dist now
[13:46] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: it should be in /var/log/apt/term.log
[13:47] <EriC^^> mahakal: that only updates grub
[13:47] <mahakal> so update-dist can be avoided
[13:47] <EriC^^> mahakal: yeah, just sudo grub-install; sudo update-grub
[13:48] <EriC^^> it's important for booting
[13:48] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: should i go Y on all the questions? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24053089/
[13:48] <alkisg> easyOnMe: what's the output of dpkg -l netbeans? do you see that it's installed? did you try to install it with apt-get install netbeans, or by some other way?
[13:49] <easyOnMe> alkisg: I installed it by downloading the file from netbeans
[13:49] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: i think ffmpeg is from ppa, kodi is from ppa and dont mind removing it, nuvlaplayer same, dont mind removing, vlc shouldnt be from ppa, but easily reinstallable,
[13:49] <alkisg> easyOnMe: that's not a proper method; run sudo apt-get install netbeans instead
[13:50] <easyOnMe> alkisg: I followed this: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/10/netbeans-8-2-released-how-to-install-it-in-ubuntu-16-04/
[13:50] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: it wants to remove other stuff, i guess we could play along then reinstall the stuff it wants to remove, i can't think of a way otherwise
[13:51] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: its gonna be a big list im guessing
[13:51] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: yeah
[13:51] <easyOnMe> alkisg: dpkg -l netbeans
[13:51] <anddam> this is the debug log of rhythmbox while pluggin the ipod in, I'm not sure what's happening with udev https://gist.github.com/anddam/4f1cfe94adf702487ff6caa20f674c7b
[13:51] <easyOnMe> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24053096/
[13:51] <anddam> any hint appreciated
[13:51] <alkisg> easyOnMe: we don't support custom installers here, use the version that is shipped by ubuntu
[13:51] <alkisg> easyOnMe: sudo apt-get install netbeans
[13:51] <mahakal> EriC^ : that command work cleanly "No error reported"
[13:52] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: maybe the stuff is a little redundant and after a few packages it stops wanting to remove so many (hopefully)
[13:52] <easyOnMe> I see
[13:52] <EriC^^> mahakal: great, type "dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999"     lastly
[13:53] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: im seeing a change in tone here. its wanting to install stuff now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24053107/
[13:53] <mahakal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24053109/
[13:54] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: i'd abort it's getting pretty huge
[13:54] <EriC^^> it wants to remove libreoffice and other stuff!
[13:54] <azizLIGHT> okay, and those things are lts-utopic
[13:54] <mahakal> EriC : http://termbin.com/vwpn
[13:54] <craptalk> is there any command option on apt-get install, on which enable to download dependencies on itself? automatically? instead of giving stderr to the user and let the user do it manually?
[13:54] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: maybe by using some other means we can force it to just remove the xorg stuff we want without removing the others?
[13:55] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: like using dpkg or some apt option?
[13:55] <craptalk> i was trying install vlc and some dependencies are missing
[13:55] <azizLIGHT> im not sure
[13:55] <craptalk> yes
[13:55] <EriC^^> craptalk: it does that by default usually
[13:55] <craptalk> anyway, i install it in .deb form, not apt-get install
[13:55] <craptalk> i download that myself
[13:56] <easyOnMe> alkisg: there is this message that says
[13:56] <easyOnMe> The installer lock file exisist at /home/jboy/.nbi/.nbilock
[13:56] <EriC^^> mahakal: ok, type sudo apt-get purge grub-pc-bin
[13:56] <craptalk> but everytime i tried it in form of .deb, and do dpkg -i, it would leave the error of dpendencies
[13:56] <easyOnMe> I believe that this is the one that has not finished or completed the netbeans installation
[13:56] <easyOnMe> what shall I do now
[13:56] <EriC^^> craptalk: yeah dpkg doesn't satisfy dependencies i think
[13:57] <alkisg> easyOnMe: for custom installers, you would need to ask in the respective software support channel; e.g. #netbeans
[13:57] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: what is the main problem here, so that i may describe it later to others?
[13:57] <easyOnMe> ok thanks
[13:57] <EriC^^> craptalk: i think sudo apt /path/to/deb can install .deb files and it might satisfy dependencies too, not sure
[13:57] <craptalk> kinda boring to do it manually, moreover, it would be more than one required dpndencies
[13:57] <craptalk> really? i can use apt into downloaded .deb file?
[13:58] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: my understanding is that some of my packages are being gotten from a ppa and we are trying to restore them to ubuntu repo versions, but without success and dependency problems
[13:59] <mahakal> EriC^^ : done URl is : http://termbin.com/cilx
[13:59] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: yes, the xorg packages are the xorg-edgers version, and the ppa has been removed but we need to downgrade the packages as well
[13:59] <ikevin> craptalk, yes
[14:00] <craptalk> ikevin: i just knew it. altho dpkg is technically apt also
[14:00] <craptalk> gotta try it out
[14:00] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: mainly we need to see a way to downgrade the packages without using remove then install so it doesn't start wants to remove other stuff in the process
[14:00] <craptalk> but could you explain the basic difference of these commands two?
[14:01] <craptalk> maybe how they behave while we installing the pkg or something?
[14:01] <alkisg> EriC^^, azizLIGHT, to install a specific version, use apt install package=version
[14:01] <easyOnMe> anyone here knows how to unlock a file
[14:01] <craptalk> easyOnMe: how do you mean?
[14:01] <azizLIGHT> alkisg: this will work on downgradeS?
[14:02] <alkisg> azizLIGHT: yes
[14:02] <mahakal> EriC^^ : what to do now
[14:02] <alkisg> azizLIGHT: apt policy package => see the available versions, apt install package=version => downgrade
[14:02] <azizLIGHT> so EriC^^ i just have to look at the xorg-edgers packages and see the ubuntu repo version tag and use apt install of the ubuntu-repo-version
[14:02] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: try alkisg 's suggestion
[14:02] <azizLIGHT> of that package
[14:03] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: yeah the list is here http://termbin.com/71rt
[14:03] <easyOnMe> There is this message: The installer lock file exisist at /home/jboy/.nbi/.nbilock
[14:03] <easyOnMe> I am trying to install netbeans
[14:03] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: try apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[14:03] <easyOnMe> because I force shutdown my laptop earlier because it hang up
[14:03] <EriC^^> is it still installed and is it still the xorg-edgers version?
[14:03] <easyOnMe> so the netbeans installation that was in progress never completed the installation at all
[14:04] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: Installed: 1:1.0.11+git20141030.3fb97d78-0ubuntu0sarvatt~trusty2
[14:04] <EriC^^> mahakal: it looks good, you can try rebooting if you want
[14:04] <craptalk> easyOnMe: maybe there was some currently running process
[14:04] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: this is the ubuntu repo version: 1:1.0.10-1ubuntu2 0
[14:04] <easyOnMe> craptalk: yes at that time when I shutdown
[14:04] <easyOnMe> so now I am trying to install again netbeans
[14:04] <easyOnMe> but the wizard gave me that message
[14:04] <easyOnMe> that I just pasted
[14:04] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: aha, try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau=1:1.0.10-1ubuntu2
[14:04] <craptalk> and that process still there, or at least became zombie
[14:05] <azizLIGHT> is it apt-get or apt
[14:05] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: alkisg said apt
[14:05] <easyOnMe> craptalk: so what can I do
[14:05] <alkisg> azizLIGHT: apt in newer ubuntu versions, apt-get in all versions
[14:06] <azizLIGHT> sweet: The following packages will be DOWNGRADED:
[14:06] <mahakal> EriC^^ : ok its going to be really serious..but one last question ..Typing "grub" in terminal says "grub :command not found "
[14:06] <easyOnMe> delete that file what was locked
[14:06] <azizLIGHT> Installed: 1:1.0.10-1ubuntu2
[14:07] <azizLIGHT> neat!!!
[14:07] <EriC^^> mahakal: yes, that's normal
[14:07] <azizLIGHT> thats one down, many to go
[14:07] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: nice!
[14:07] <mahakal> ok..and how to contact you if something goes bad
[14:07] <EriC^^> !cookie | alkisg
[14:07] <alkisg> Haha, thanks EriC^^ I was hungry :D
[14:08] <anddam> can I install server from Desktop image?
[14:08] <azizLIGHT> !cookie | alkisg
[14:08] <azizLIGHT> lol i cant give cookies
[14:08] <EriC^^> mahakal: use your phone or a live usb to get back here from http://webchat.freenode.net
[14:08] <EriC^^> alkisg: :D
[14:08] <alkisg> azizLIGHT:  Maybe the bot doesn't want to make me toooo fat... :D
[14:09] <Andrew> hi
[14:09] <azizLIGHT> heh
[14:10] <mahakal> EriC^^ : after removing grub-bin ..you did not ask me to do "grub install ; update grub"etc
[14:10] <azizLIGHT> how do i run through this list and find apt-cache policy ubnutu repo versions, and then run apt-get install *package*=*ubuntu_version*
[14:10] <azizLIGHT> i can do it one by one but id rather not
[14:11] <EriC^^> mahakal: yes it's not required, that just removes the packages from the system but grub is already installed in the efi partition and everywhere else from earlier
[14:12] <compdoc> anddam, dont think ive seen that option
[14:12] <mahakal> ok ..going to do bootinh
[14:12] <EriC^^> mahakal: if you want you can run sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed grub-efi-amd64 grub-efi-amd64-bin
[14:12] <easyOnMe> how will I know whether my ubuntu os got corrupted due to forced shutdown via long ppress of the power button
[14:12] <EriC^^> it won't harm at all
[14:12] <easyOnMe> I mean will I be creating severe damage with what I did
[14:12] <mahakal> EriC : whats your final advice
[14:12] <ikevin> easyOnMe, yes you can
[14:13] <EriC^^> mahakal: run the command above, then try rebooting
[14:13] <murks_> Hi there
[14:13] <murks_> I have problems getting a uefi system to boot
[14:13] <murks_> can someone here help?
[14:13] <mahakal> ok
[14:14] <murks_> installing was no problem but I can't get the grub menu
[14:14] <EriC^^> murks_: what's happening?
[14:14] <user333> does anyone here use geary
[14:14] <user333> ?
[14:14] <EriC^^> murks_: what model pc?
[14:14] <user333> I'd like to know where the full options for geary are.
[14:14] <user333> I know in the top right corner there are some settings, but it's like 5 or 6 settings. There must be more settings, somewhere, right?
[14:15] <murks_> EriC^^: acer something, here is a bootinfo paste: http://paste2.org/zD5O0HHV
[14:15] <mahakal> EriC^^ : should i run "grub install ; update grub"
[14:15] <mahakal> now
[14:16] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: can you paste a sample of "apt-cache policy xorg-package" ?
[14:16] <EriC^^> murks_: acer's have a uefi trust option that has to be enabled first
[14:16] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: which one
[14:16] <murks_> EriC^^: meaning? I managed to disable secureboot
[14:17] <EriC^^> murks_: it comes up after enabling the admin password
[14:17] <anddam> compdoc: downloading the server install image meanwhile
[14:17] <faLUCE> hello. On 16.04 I created a hotspot wifi connection with a tplink usb nic, using network manager. I can see the connection listed in ifconfig (wlxf4f26d110211 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr f4:f2:6d:11:02:11)  but I can't see it in the wifi available networks. What can I do?
[14:17] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: any one will do
[14:17] <mahakal> EriC^^ : should i run "grub install ; update grub" now
[14:17] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24053264/
[14:17] <mahakal> or should go for booting
[14:18] <azizLIGHT> i tried to downgrade libgl1-mesa-glx to ubunto repo version but it wont budge? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24053243/
[14:18] <EriC^^> mahakal: sure, run "sudo update-grub"
[14:18] <anddam> anyone about the udev question? I'm pretty lost there
[14:18] <EriC^^> it's ok without grub-install
[14:18] <murks_> ok, found something, will look that up in uefi
[14:18] <mahakal> ok
[14:19] <alkisg> azizLIGHT:  apt-cache policy $(dpkg -l | awk 'NR >= 6 { print $2 }') |   awk '/^[^ ]/    { split($1, a, ":"); pkg = a[1] } nextline == 1 { nextline = 0; printf("%-40s %-50s %s\n", pkg, $2, $3) }   /\*\*\*/      { nextline = 1 }' | grep status
[14:19] <alkisg> azizLIGHT: this is a list of packages that don't come from your sources.list
[14:19] <alkisg> azizLIGHT: i.e. the ones that you need to downgrade
[14:19] <mahakal> ok
[14:20] <mahakal> going for boot.Good luck
[14:20] <EriC^^> alkisg: he wants to downgrade the xorg-edgers one right now
[14:20] <murks_> the boot-repair tool fails http://paste2.org/BUEc1WOz
[14:20] <EriC^^> alkisg: this is the list he has of the packages that have its stuff http://termbin.com/71rt
[14:20] <azizLIGHT> alkisg: EriC^^ this is whats not from sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24053282/
[14:20] <alkisg> EriC^^: I don't know which of his packages come from that ppa, and that command above will tell us...
[14:21] <azizLIGHT> and the first legitimate one libgl1-mesa-glx, wont downgrade
[14:21] <EriC^^> alkisg: we kind of went through it earlier getting the packages
[14:22] <alkisg> EriC^^: ok. azizLIGHT, it looks like you haven't ran apt dist-upgrade recently, so that list isn't accurate.
[14:22] <EriC^^> alkisg: oh ok
[14:22] <EriC^^> i see what you meant, it gives packages that dont have a source repo
[14:22] <alkisg> Yup
[14:22] <EriC^^> thought you meant it lists all the packages that are from ppa's installed
[14:22] <azizLIGHT> i had run dist-upgrade and was on 14.0.4.5 and then i did upgrade to hwe stack using the multiarch command
[14:23] <alkisg> azizLIGHT: what's the output of apt policy ppa-purge? Why doesn't it come from stock ubuntu?
[14:23] <azizLIGHT> then the kernel didnt work for me (hang on luks passphrase entry), so i wanted to downgrade back to how everything ws, because i noticed that half of my things disappeared and were uninstalled: notepadqq for instance
[14:24] <azizLIGHT> alkisg: it looks like when i did hwe stack upgrade, it upgraded everything to xorg-edgers versions along with half of hwe stack or something
[14:24] <azizLIGHT> alkisg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24053292/
[14:24] <mahakal> EriC^^: boot was successfull
[14:24] <EriC^^> mahakal: great!
[14:25] <alkisg> azizLIGHT: ok, so it would be nice to downgrade that one too, i.e. everything in that list
[14:25] <mahakal> but i did not saw the grub2 welcome screen
[14:25] <EriC^^> mahakal: do you have 2 OS installed?
[14:25] <mahakal> no
[14:25] <azizLIGHT> alkisg: right, im trying but i cannot downgrade libgl1-mesa-glx. the pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24053243/
[14:26] <EriC^^> mahakal: it's usually hidden unless you hold shift when the pc starts, or if there's 2 OS
[14:26] <EriC^^> mahakal: you can make it appear always if you want
[14:26] <murks_> thanks EriC^^ , boots now
[14:27] <alkisg> azizLIGHT: some packages have dependencies on the same version of other packages, so it's best to use a big apt install package1=version package2=version for all of them, not run them one by one
[14:27] <azizLIGHT> i see
[14:28] <mahakal> EriC^^: i think ubuntu uses both grubs..Because before installing grub2 i sometime hold shift during boot and the grub 2 was shown at top..but when checking the version on command  line it used to show 0.97
[14:29] <ppf> mahakal: which version ?
[14:29] <ppf> ubuntu uses grub2
[14:29] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: how did you make this list. can you do it so it also adds the ubuntu candidate under it
[14:29] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24052790/
[14:30] <mahakal> Now :grub-install (GRUB) 2.02~beta2-9ubuntu1.12
[14:30] <mahakal> Before : 0.97
[14:30] <Razva> alkisg: except x2go, which doesn't really works properly on macOS, is there any other option?
[14:30] <ppf> mahakal: before what?
[14:31] <alkisg> Razva, I've never used macos so I wouldn't know, try to see if there's a #macos channel in freenode
[14:31] <mahakal> Before installing grub-pc
[14:31] <EriC^^> murks_: great, no problem
[14:31] <azizLIGHT> btw, xorg-edgers ppa says "WARNING: Do not use this PPA with enabled HWE stack."
[14:33] <mahakal> ppf : the strange thing is that typing grub on terminal now produce the message : the package grub is not installed
[14:33] <alkisg> mahakal: ubuntu has both the old grub 0.97 package and the new grub2 package. But noone uses the old grub 0.97 package nowadays
[14:33] <EriC^^> mahakal: maybe, the old grub package was installed, it had also the config files left
[14:33] <alkisg> mahakal: so if you run apt install grub, you get the old one, and if you run apt install grub-pc, you get the new one
[14:33] <mahakal> oo
[14:33] <EriC^^> mahakal: the grub package is the old legacy grub
[14:33] <mahakal> but i have both file install ..that is menu.lst is still in right folder..So how to know that which grub version is used by the booting process
[14:33] <EriC^^> mahakal: do you still have menu.lst ?
[14:33] <alkisg> mahakal: dpkg -l '*grub*' | grep ^ii | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:34] <mahakal> yup
[14:34] <LuMint> There's a new CVE out there, expoiting DCCP. I'd like to turn it off. Will creating /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-dccp.conf and adding the 4 lines to it do? https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2017/CVE-2017-6074.html HOw do I disable DCCP in Ubuntu 14.04?
[14:34] <mahakal> its still there
[14:34] <EriC^^> mahakal: right now it should be using the grub.cfg one
[14:34] <alkisg> menu.lst doesn't get erased when removing the old grub
[14:34] <mahakal> alkisg : http://termbin.com/trvy
[14:35] <alkisg> mahakal: see, you don't have a packaged called "grub" installed, with version "0.97"
[14:35] <EriC^^> mahakal: if it says the proper version at the top then you should be good
[14:35] <mahakal> Eric^^ : but how to confirm that
[14:35] <mahakal> ok
[14:35] <ppf> LuMint: just upgrade your syste
[14:35] <ppf> m
[14:36] <ppf> the CVE has been fixed yesterday
[14:36] <Pici> LuMint: That page suggests that it was fixed already
[14:37] <mahakal> EriC^^ : i mean some type of echo statement that i can put in grub.cfg to confirm
[14:37] <mahakal> ?
[14:37] <LuMint> Pici: i'm running 14.04. And I'm sure I didn't receive the update.
[14:37] <alkisg> mahakal: grub 0.97 cannot read grub.cfg, it can only read menu.lst
[14:37] <Pici> LuMint: What kernel version are you on?
[14:38] <ppf> LuMint: fixed kernel packages are available. just upgrade them
[14:38] <ppf> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:38] <mahakal> ohh...alkisg u r right
[14:38] <Pici> LuMint: If you were using one of the hwe stack kernels, make sure that you're using one that hasn't reached its EOL.
[14:39] <magalhaes> hello
[14:40] <LuMint> Pici: 3.13.0-107
[14:41] <LuMint> ppf: according to the 3.13.0-108 changelog it doesn't deal with the CVE.
[14:41] <LuMint> ppf: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kernel-package/+changelog
[14:41] <ppf> 3.13.0.110.118
[14:43] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: what was the command to find pckages which are from xorg edgers again
[14:44] <LuMint> ppf: i have 3.13.0.110 in the list, but I'm not sure if it's 110.118
[14:45] <LuMint> ppf: how can I found it out and also where do i find the changelog for it?
[14:46] <ppf> dpkg -s linux-image-generic
[14:48] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: this is the list http://termbin.com/71rt
[14:49] <LuMint> ppf: dpkg-query: package 'linux-image-generic' is not installed and no information is available
[14:49] <LuMint> weird
[14:51] <LuMint> ppf: do you mean I should Install .110 first?
[14:53] <craptalk_> is it normal for laptop running ubuntu-gnome, to last 2-3 hours?
[14:53] <craptalk_> activites are coding, browsing, streaming
[14:53] <LuMint> craptalk_: power saving packages installed?
[14:53] <craptalk_> LuMint: how to check?
[14:54] <craptalk_> but, is it normal?
[14:54] <craptalk_> i check that laptop lasting around 5 hours is normal
[14:55] <craptalk_> i think ubuntu-gnome has some heavy animations which could effect the power
[14:55] <LuMint> craptalk_: apropos power
[14:55] <LuMint> craptalk_: apropos energy
[14:55] <LuMint> craptalk_: apropos saving
[14:55] <ppf> LuMint: no... just
[14:56] <ppf> run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:56] <LuMint> ppf: will that upgrade me to Ubuntu 16?
[14:56] <craptalk_> ppf: what essential explanatin would that be?
[14:56] <ppf> LuMint: no
[14:56] <ppf> it will upgrade your kernel
[14:57] <ppf> craptalk_: ECONTEXT?
[14:59] <Razva>  one of the things I enjoy with Microsoft RDC is the fact that the remote desktop "syncs" with the local device: same resolution, sound etc. is there any VNC app that can do this for Ubuntu/Lubuntu, except x2go?
[15:01] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: i downgraded those in the list to ubuntu repo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24053421/
[15:01] <azizLIGHT> now what shall i do
[15:01] <azizLIGHT> i am pretty sure a lot of my packages have gone missing, and some are still on some kind of git
[15:06] <azizLIGHT> how do i do apt-cache policy of all packages on system
[15:07] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: good job!
[15:07] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: dpkg -l | awk '$1 == "ii" { print $2 }' | xargs apt-cache policy | grep -C10 someppa
[15:09] <mahakal> EriC^^ : i want to try REMnux disro based on ubuntu .But instead of providing ISO image its downlid file is "virtual appliance file in ova format"..How can i use it on ubuntu 14.04
[15:11] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: thanks, working through the mess bit by bit :P
[15:11] <craptalk> my RAM is 8 gb, but linux says it 7,2. how does it possible? is it being used by other things related to RAM requirement?
[15:12] <EriC^^> mahakal: download the file then load it in virtualbox
[15:12] <mcphail> craptalk: do you have integrated graphics?
[15:14] <mahakal> EriC^^ : My laptop is 4gb ram ,pentiium quad core SO which would be good choice virtualBox vs VMware .
[15:14] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: how can i find from this those packages who are not Installed: ubuntu
[15:14] <bekks> mahakal: The one you like more.
[15:15] <EriC^^> mahakal: i've never tried vmware, i think they should be similar in performance, virtualbox works nicely for me though
[15:16] <mahakal> EriC^^ : on web i have learnt that virtualbox  put far less burden on cpu than vmware
[15:17] <EriC^^> mahakal: aha, interesting
[15:17] <EriC^^> azizLIGHT: you want all packages from any ppa's?
[15:18] <azizLIGHT> EriC^^: yes im trying to find all non-ubuntu packages. and see if they need to go back to ubuntu version or not
[15:18] <azizLIGHT> so that includes : installed: none
[15:18] <mahakal> EriC^^ : but you know thing would have been more nice if i could dual boot REMnux  and ubuntu.Because in virtualization RAM is divided..and system get slow
[15:18] <azizLIGHT> and git and xorg edgers and anything else
[15:19] <EriC^^> mahakal: i think you can
[15:21] <mahakal> EriC^^ :Aha what does this mean :  https://paste.ubuntu.com/24053542/
[15:21] <EriC^^> mahakal: https://remnux.org/docs/distro/get/#install-remnux-on-an-existing-system
[15:21] <EriC^^> it says it can allow you to install on a physical host
[15:22] <mahakal> EriC^^: BINGO we share same material with different mean
[15:23] <mahakal> EriC^^: installing on a physical host mean i can have option to dual boot selecting from grub menu ??
[15:23] <EriC^^> mahakal: i think it means that remnux is like an addition that can be added to any ubuntu system, they usually give the iso that's based on ubuntu + remnux, you can use the install script to add remnux to an already installed ubuntu
[15:24] <mahakal> means like any other software like wireshark,nmap,geany ??
[15:24] <EriC^^> mahakal: you can install it on top of your current ubuntu, or if you want a separate system you could install another ubuntu (dual boot) and run the install script there and it would make it with remnux
[15:25] <EriC^^> mahakal: it does some modifications to ubuntu, software, maybe some settings, etc
[15:26] <mahakal> Eric^^ : ok.SO can i do this : booting an ubuntu system from usb the runnig that script in this environment?
[15:27] <EriC^^> yeah you can do that, or make a live usb that has persistence
[15:28] <EriC^^> this is the script it runs https://remnux.org/get-remnux.sh it looks like it installs lots of software and some settings
[15:28] <pavlos> craptalk, 8 GB should show as 7.7 GiB (multiplier is 1024 instead of 1000).
[15:28] <Aliekezhi> what process is taking care of updating networks share in "real time" by default on Ubuntu ? Is it avahi ?
[15:30] <lerner> does ubuntu by default delete all old kernels if I execute sudo apt-get autoremove but the 2 newest ones?
[15:30] <mahakal> EriC^^: consider the scenario : you boot ubuntu from usb..install wireshark on it..the next time you boot from usb ..Will wireshark be there or not ?
[15:30] <bekks> lerner: No.
[15:30] <EriC^^> lerner: usually yes
[15:30] <bekks> lerner: You can use "purge-old-kernels" from the biksehd package, to do so.
[15:31] <lerner> bekks, EriC^^ who should I listen to?
[15:32] <EriC^^> !autoremove
[15:32] <pavlos> lerner, look at ls /boot, do the autoremove, look again at /boot it keeps the last two (16.04
[15:42] <rahmonali> hi
[15:42] <rahmonali> anybody here?
[15:42] <nacc> rahmonali: yes, as you can tell by the large list of users in the channel.
[15:42] <rahmonali> i have a problem with my ubuntu
[15:43] <nacc> !details | rahmonali
[15:44] <rahmonali> how to run apk on ubuntu
[15:45] <nacc> rahmonali: APK as in the Android thing?
[15:45] <rahmonali> yes
[15:45] <nacc> rahmonali: afaik, you don't run those on Ubuntu? You run them on Android, right?
[15:46] <rahmonali> but i have read an articles from internet
[15:46] <nacc> oh good the source of all facts :)
[15:47] <rahmonali> nac, do you have heard of Archon runtime environment?
[15:47] <nacc> rahmonali: no
[15:48] <retromingent1> What is the Archon runtime environment?
[15:48] <nacc> !pm | rahmonali
[15:49] <rahmonali> it is a apk player that is extension of google chrome
[15:50] <Pici> So, if you already know your answer, why ask us?
[15:50] <tcpdump> Hey everyone.
[15:51] <tcpdump> Anyone know how well Ubuntu runs on a surface tablet?
[15:52] <RxMcDonald> hi, I'm adding ubuntu into my CPU but it doesn't turn on
[15:52] <nicomachus> tcpdump: https://www.reddit.com/r/SurfaceLinux/
[15:53] <RxMcDonald> is my computer broke?
[15:53] <rahmonali> which version of ubuntu?
[15:54] <nacc> RxMcDonald: what do you mean it doesn't turn on?
[15:54] <nacc> RxMcDonald: you hit the power button and nothing happens?
[15:54] <nacc> RxMcDonald: or you just see a black screen?
[15:54] <tcpdump> nicomachus: ohhh nice, thanks!\
[15:54] <rahmonali> maybe your computer is broken
[15:55] <nacc> !who | rahmonali
[15:56] <mcphail> rahmonali: I've tried running APKs in Chrome before. Unless the situation has improved, it is a complete waste of time. And it isn't an Ubuntu issue so we couldn't support it here
[15:56] <EriC^^> RxMcDonald is a troll, he's made a reputation
[15:57] <nacc> EriC^^: ok, thanks
[15:58] <EriC^^> :)
[16:02] <yobagme> morning all
[16:03] <rahmonali> evening in our c
[16:03] <yobagme> time-appropriate greetings, all
[16:04] <tcpdump> helo yobagme
[16:04] <yobagme> anyone have thoughts on the ryzen cpus? need a new gaming pc soon and usually stick with intel
[16:04] <yobagme> for running ubuntu, specifically
[16:05] <nacc> yobagme: probably better for #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:12] <Omkar_> hi
[16:16] <sruli> how do i delete a entry from dconf? i have 2 custom shortcuts which dont show in keyboard shortcuts gui but they show in dconf, there is no delete button, how can i remove them? (gnome)
[16:19] <luky> hello
[16:19] <luky> HEXCHAT
[16:21] <tdannecy> sruli: Close the dconf gui editor (if you have it open) and run in the terminal "dconf reset /foo/bar"
[16:21] <marncz> Hi all, can I get quick feedback on that tiny design issue: https://github.com/nextcloud/server/issues/1559
[16:22] <ThePeach> hi all, I've got a Dell XPS13 with ubuntu installed. The previous owner installed arch alongside ubuntu and used gummiboot to enable multiboot, is it possible to restore the original ubuntu bootloader in any way?
[16:22] <tdannecy> sruli: Change the /foo/bar part to the path containing the options. It'll clean it up.
[16:22] <sruli> tdannecy: /foo/bar = full path? "/org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/media-keys/custom-keybindings/custom0/"
[16:23] <tdannecy> sruli: Yep. That looks right to me
[16:25] <ThePeach> version of ubunut is 14.04
[16:25] <sruli> tdannecy: didnt delete, they are still there
[16:25] <tdannecy> sruli: Try the command with -f
[16:26] <tdannecy> sruli: So, "dconf reset -f /foo/bar/"
[16:26] <sruli> tdannecy: reading the man page now.. -f is for dirs.. will try
[16:26] <nicomachus> ThePeach: yes, you just need to install Grub from a live disk. You may even be able to just use bootrepair on a live disk.
[16:27] <ThePeach> nicomachus: I managed to start ubuntu (luckily it kept the entry in the boot)
[16:27] <ThePeach> nicomachus: would I go about grub-install grub-mkconfig etc?
[16:27] <sruli> tdannecy: that didnt help.
[16:28] <pavlos> sruli, there is also gconf-cleaner, can be installed from the software center
[16:30] <tdannecy> sruli: Try running the command on a higher up dconf dir?
[16:31] <sruli> tdannecy: where would i specify the entry "custom0"? what would my path/command be? "dconf reset -f org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/media-keys/custom-keybindings/ ??"
[16:32] <sruli> paclos, cannot find any gconf / dconf-cleaner in repo
[16:32] <sruli> pavlos: ^
[16:32] <tdannecy> sruli: Running that command will/should remove anything in the custom-keybindings dir
[16:33] <tdannecy> sruli: Well, anything that's not default
[16:33] <Sel_fin_root> Hi, any woman around here?
[16:33] <sruli> tdannecy: dont want to remove all, but wil have to bite the bullet, just want to make sure it wont delete the actual dir so i will be able to add custom keyboard shortcuts later.
[16:34] <tdannecy> It won't remove the dir itself, just everything inside it.
[16:34] <ovalseven8> Is there a way to restore the default Lubuntu shortcuts? I changed "./config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml"
[16:34] <Ajxa_> Hi, I know this is the wrong place to ask, but im sure many of you also use windows, and office. Does anyone know of any kind of workaround for activating office 2013 without a bloody microsoft account?
[16:35] <Southern_Gentlem> Ajxa_,  yes enter the auth key
[16:35] <ikevin> Ajxa_, you maybe have more change to get a reply on #windows
[16:35] <nacc> Ajxa_: seriously. If you know it's the wrong place ... use #windows or #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:35] <tdannecy> sruli: I mean, you could backup the entire dconf, delete the original, rebuild dconf with default actions, and then manually re-add the settings from the exported file.
[16:36] <tdannecy> sruli: Or, just re-add the dconf settings in the dir. It's up to you.
[16:36] <Ajxa_> its a general knowledge question to be fair..people know this from experience but okay ill try my luck elsewehere
[16:36] <nacc> Ajxa_: general knowledge is also offtopic for this channel.
[16:37] <nacc> Ajxa_: and has *nothing* to do with Ubuntu, as you readily admitted.
[16:38] <tdannecy> Ajxa_: http://i.imgur.com/GiYdIzP.jpg
[16:39] <Ajxa_> Im sure imgur is pretty on topic xD its okay i already went to windows :D
[16:39] <sruli> tdannecy: how do i re-add it, when i tried from the command line it did overwrite it but didnt work and didnt show in shortcuts gui.. that how i got into the problem in the first place
[16:43] <tdannecy> sruli: Run a "sudo dconf-update"?
[16:46] <ash_workz> I am realizing that I suck at linux administration
[16:46] <sruli> tdannecy: i deleted it by deleting the higher level as you suggested, however i cannot resolve my problem, how can i add a shortcut from a bash script in gnome ? it adds it to dconf but doesnt work
[16:49] <ash_workz> aux, iops, cores, etc; I have only the faintest idea of what to make of various metrics and close to nil idea on how to produce them
[16:49] <sruli> tdannecy: i see when i add a shortcut in gui it also adds a entry inside media-keys itself in addition to the sub object it adds, when i add from the command line it doesnt do that
[16:50] <tdannecy> sruli: Can you re-state your original question? I'm confused on what you're trying to do.
[16:50] <nacc> ash_workz: not sure what each of those are myself, but 'cores' to me is not a metric?
[16:50] <nacc> ash_workz: but also, not really a support question
[16:51] <sruli> tdannecy: the original question i posted was how to delete, which i have now achieved.. the original thing i wanted to achieve is to add a keyboard shortcut from a bash script
[16:51] <ash_workz> nacc: no; I'm kinda just complaining :\ hoping the super nice people in here will be like `@see CoolTutorial`
[16:51] <tdannecy> sruli: Keyboard shortcut for what? Gnome? Unity? Vim??
[16:53] <davvvid> hi boys, I installed TightVNC and when I connect to the server I'm logged as a root, not as a sudo user I just created. I'm stuck. Would appreciate any help
[16:54] <nacc> davvvid: 'sudo user'?
[16:54] <sruli> tdannecy: in gnome, i want a shortcut to launch a script which opens a web page, using the keyboard shourcut gui its simple enoung, however i want to add that shoutcut from command line / bash script
[16:54] <nacc> davvvid: a regular user with sudo privilege?
[16:54] <sruli> tdannecy: i tried using the instructions and script from http://askubuntu.com/a/597414/483497 but that only works if there are existing shortcuts set, i dont know what i need to edit in the script that it should add without existing shortcuts set
[16:54] <davvvid> nacc, yes. regular user with sudo privilege
[16:54] <nacc> davvvid: who is the server running as?
[16:54] <nacc> davvvid: as in, look at `ps aux` on the server system and see
[16:55] <ducasse> davvvid: did you start it using sudo?
[16:55] <davvvid> ducasse, yes
[16:55] <nacc> davvvid: then it's running as root
[16:55] <nacc> davvvid: you escalated the privilege to run it
[16:57] <davvvid> it's not running without sudo
[16:57] <davvvid> vncserver: Wrong type or access mode of /home/david/.vnc.
[16:57] <tdannecy> sruli: The link you provided has instructions to create a new set, in both the Bash and Python examples.
[16:57] <nacc> davvvid: probably you ran it with sudo once, which made that directory owned by root
[16:58] <nacc> davvvid: check the permissions?
[16:58] <sruli> tdannecy: yes, but it checks first for existing ones, as i dont have existing ones if fails
[16:58] <pvl1> is it ok to update pip using pip, after installing it from the repos?
[16:58] <pvl1> is it ok to update pip using pip, after installing it from the repos?
[16:58] <tdannecy> The python comment says "make sure the additional keybinding mention is no duplicate"
[16:59] <pvl1> (sorry if that send twice, just making sure it got on here)
[16:59] <nacc> pvl1: do you have a reason to do so? iirc, by default, pip will put itself in /usr/local and leave the system pip in /usr -- note that modifying /usr outside of the packaging system is not ideal
[16:59] <nacc> pvl1: i would suggest not updating the system pip outside of the packaged version, if you are using the pacakged version
[17:00] <pvl1> nacc: thats what i figured... only a matter of time before theres issues
[17:01] <davvvid> nacc and ducasse. I love you boys. all is working
[17:02] <nacc> pvl1: do you have a specific need for a newer pip?
[17:02] <nacc> pvl1: i believe you can install it 'locally' (as in your home directory) for just your user
[17:02] <nacc> davvvid: yw
[17:02] <sruli> tdannecy: i beleive that is to check if the keybind being added is not a duplicate as in that case it also fails, if you look as the while true function, you will see that it specifically checks for existing number, i guess it needs an argument that if there is no number start at 0, never edited python before.. not sure how to do it
[17:02] <pvl1> nacc: nope, just pip recommended i update and gave me the command, and i was like, aptitude will not be happy
[17:03] <nameee> Hello. Anyone has expirience installing u. On arm ?
[17:03] <nacc> pvl1: ok -- i'm also not a python expert, but that's just my expectation :)
[17:04] <OerHeks> nameee, there is an ARM channel too #ubuntu-arm
[17:07] <nameee> Oer heks thank you!
[17:07] <kierqueen> hi
[17:07] <slunatecqo> Hi - question about ubuntu Core. I have a working machine in KVM, and when I want to ssh into it, it asks key passphrase. When I enter it correctly, it asks users password, which I don't know... any ideas?
[17:07] <Zewwy> ooo neat
[17:07] <kierqueen> how do I know the 10 latest things  I installed ?
[17:07] <Zewwy> thanks OerHeks
[17:07] <Zewwy> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/pwm-general/BVTWTtMu2kA
[17:07] <Zewwy> If anyone has any ideas to my issue above
[17:07] <kierqueen> or say 20 latest packages, yeah they can be as old as hell, but they should be in order, so how do I list them ?
[17:08] <Zewwy> be greatly apprciated
[17:08] <Zewwy> would keep it in a PWM channel if one existed :(
[17:08] <kang0> Anyone used dism in Windows
[17:08] <Zewwy> lol kang0 #Windows-server
[17:08] <Zewwy> c'mon
[17:09] <OerHeks> slunatecqo, you need the ssh keys >>>> ssh -i <path-to-SSO-private-key> <SSO-username>@<device-ip>     >>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/870635/ubuntu-core-ssh-key
[17:10] <slunatecqo> OerHeks: As I said. I have it all set up. I do use the key, and after I succesfully use it (I enter the right passphrase) it asks for USER password (not key passphrase)
[17:11] <kierqueen> hey guys does anyone know ?
[17:11] <OerHeks> slunatecqo, with ssh key you don't need passphrase/user, so something is not setup correct?
[17:11] <slunatecqo> OerHeks: that is what I am asking. What is not set up correct?
[17:13] <OerHeks> slunatecqo, not sure, i have no core running here :-(
[17:13] <nacc> slunatecqo: maybe ask in #snappy (not entirely correct there, but they may know where to ask
[17:13] <slunatecqo> nacc: thanks
[17:14] <OerHeks> kierqueen, not exactly 10 lines .. grep " install " /var/log/apt/history.log
[17:15] <akik> slunatecqo: is the sso server different computer than the ubuntu machine?
[17:16] <nacc> akik: i mean the sso server will be ubuntu one or whatever, right? for core, i mean
[17:17] <akik> nacc: ok yea i don't know about that. just thought whether the keys are in the correct location
[17:18] <nacc> akik: yeah, we're debugging it in #snappy now -- looks like a key mismatch (passphrase, possibly)
[17:20] <sarbs_> gparted won't let me create a logical partition, but ubuntu installer will. is there some trick to doing it in gparted?
[17:22] <sarbs_> however ubuntu installer apparently won't let me do anything with the encrypted logical partition i want, except create one single big partition inside it.. i want four partitions (three ext4 and one swap) to live inside the same encrypted container. is that possible?
[17:23] <nylator> exit
[17:24] <Antares> Congratulations!
[17:24] <akik> sarbs_: you can accomplish that with lvm and creating logical volumes inside the volume group
[17:25] <winsen_> hoi all
[17:25] <winsen_> hi
[17:25] <winsen_>  does anyone know how to update/upgrade thunderbird on debian jessie please?
[17:25] <nacc> winsen_: probalby ask in a debian channel?
[17:25] <sarbs_> akik how can i set that up? or are you meaning i'll have to go with the single giant ext4, and then lvm is some layer on top of that?
[17:25] <nacc> sarbs_: lvm is a layer below the fs choice, not above
[17:26] <winsen> nacc: no discriminatiopn please
[17:26] <nacc> winsen: this is the Ubuntu support channel.
[17:26] <winsen> nacc: I know I am also using ubuntu and I have the same probleme
[17:26] <winsen> problem
[17:26] <akik> sarbs_: you select a partition which you want to use as the lvm physical volume
[17:26] <nacc> winsen: what problem is that?
  there is a chanel on oftc called #debian
[17:27] <nacc> winsen: so far you have only asked how to update thunderbird on debian jessie; which is not a problem.
[17:27] <akik> sarbs_: but i think the ubuntu installation takes care of this
[17:27] <kierqueen> also how do I find out how much space sagemath is occupying, including all the files, that is manuals, /usr/ etc
[17:28] <sarbs_> akik oh, i think i see what you mean - yeah, i can create a logical volume, but then i'd have to create multiple encrypted containers inside *that*, each of which would have one partition inside.. that'd require me to decrypt four different containers (ie enter four passwords) at boot time
[17:28] <sarbs_> i'm looking for a way to have *one* container, 4 child parts
[17:28] <sarbs_> did i understand what you're saying correctly?
[17:29] <akik> sarbs_: sorry i haven't used the enccrypted lvm setup myself. i use luks, but i know that the encrypted lvm exists in ubuntu
[17:30] <jpthing> A common mistake is to encrypt the home dir and hen for get to encrypt the swap as well.
[17:30] <akik> sarbs_: a logical volume would be for example the root partition, the /opt partition of the swap partition inside the lvm volume group
[17:31] <winsen> nacc: so far please no discrimination. updating/upgrading TB would be the same on ubuntu and debian. Now tell us if you know the answer otherwise no comment
[17:31] <sruli> tdannecy: i finally figured out how to add from script, i missed 1 step, it would be great if that python script allowed to add if there are no previous shortcuts set
[17:32] <akik> sarbs_: you can also set a key file to open the encrypted partition in luks
[17:32] <OerHeks> winsen, nice attitude, but you get answer in #debian
[17:32] <sarbs_> winsen no, it's not necessarily the same. ubuntu and debian use different package repositories and have sometimes differing versions of software. if you want answers for debian, ask in debian support channels
[17:34] <OerHeks> winsen, to surprise you: we have the latest already \0/
[17:37] <winsen> OerHeks: "nice attitude"? do I need your permission...?
[17:37] <OerHeks> winsen, follow the channel rules and you are fine :-)
[17:37] <Zythyr> I want to create an enviroment varible that has the path of a directory. I am confused if I should create teh variable in .profile or .bashrc
[17:37] <winsen> sarbs_: anyway thanks
[17:37] <nacc> winsen: you haven't said a problem? updating thunderbird is `apt update; apt upgrade thunderbird`
[17:38] <nacc> winsen: if you meant, 'how do I upgrade thunderbird on Ubuntu', which you still, afaict, have not asked, then I would say !details to you -- as you haven't said what you have tried, what version you are on, what version you want, etc.
[17:39] <winsen> nacc: I mean, I don't want to upgrade all my system. that's why. I just need to upgrade only TB.
[17:39] <nacc> winsen: why not? you're intentionally holding back your system?
[17:39] <ablest1980> whats a good way to learn ubuntu
[17:40] <ablest1980> any website?
[17:40] <nacc> winsen: I believe if there are updates available, `apt install thunderbird` will just upgrade it
[17:41] <winsen> nacc: the last time I did that, I had problems with my system...and frankly I forgot which software..
[17:41] <Xard> if system fonts or user fonts are updated / changed qt based irc client konversation crashes always
[17:41] <Xard> on ubuntu 16.04
[17:42] <ablest1980> do you keep getting font updates too?
[17:42] <nacc> winsen: it feels rather difficult to help. Regular updates (at least security ones) should be run anyways. If you want the 'latest' version of thunderbird, you won't get that from Ubuntu anyways.
[17:42] <nacc> winsen: and you still haven't responded to my second point -- no details. So i'll let someone else help you
[17:42] <Xard> "Setting up fonts-opensymbol (2:102.7+LibO5.1.6~rc2-0ubuntu1~xenial1) ..." was just a reminder of this
[17:43] <winsen> nacc: anyway thanks all
[17:43] <spanok> ahoj
[17:43] <spanok> je tu aj nejjaky slovak
[17:43] <akik> !sk
[17:44] <winsen> nacc: I wonder if we really need to upgrade TB every version?
[17:45] <sarbs_> Zythyr i got dc'ed so didn't see if you got an answer, but: https://serverfault.com/questions/261802/what-are-the-functional-differences-between-profile-bash-profile-and-bashrc
[17:46] <nacc> winsen: i don't know what you mean
[17:47] <winsen> nacc: is it really necessary to upgrade TB?  in my case from 45.6.0 to 45.7.1
[17:47] <nacc> winsen: define 'necessary'? are you willing to review it for if you're affected by bugs, etc.?
[17:47] <nacc> winsen: and I don't know if there are CVEs
[17:48] <Southern_Gentlem> winsen, of course TB really hasnt had that many updates the last couple of years
[17:48] <nacc> winsen: what version of Ubuntu?
[17:48] <nacc> winsen: I don't see any 45.7.1 in Ubuntu
[17:48] <Zythyr> sarbs_ Thank u :)
[17:48] <kierqueen> after a software has been made using make, how is it converted to a package ?
[17:48] <kierqueen> after a software has been made using make, how is it converted to a package ?
[17:49] <nacc> kierqueen: it's not converted to a package, per se, but the package building uses make
[17:49] <sarbs_> kierqueen http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
[17:49] <nacc> kierqueen: you want to look at a debian source package -- and may wnat to take this to #ubuntu-devel
[17:49] <kierqueen> .deb ? how do we get there ?
[17:49] <winsen> nacc: 16.04
[17:49] <nacc> !info thunderbird xenial
[17:50] <davvvid> I've got problem. I installed OpenVPN on my server via VNC. Now I cannot connect to the server either via putty or VNCViewer
[17:50] <nacc> winsen: --^ 45.7.0
[17:50] <winsen> nacc: 45.7.1 is the latest version of TB
[17:50] <nacc> !latest | winsen
[17:50] <nacc> winsen: and also, if it's a security update, it will come back
[17:50] <kierqueen> when we download a package we get .tar file
[17:50] <kierqueen> so ... then what
[17:50] <kierqueen> what's this .deb ?
[17:50] <nacc> !details | kierqueen
[17:51] <Southern_Gentlem> kierqueen,  how about reading the links your were given above
[17:51] <nacc> kierqueen: please use the other channel I mentioned, and also give more information than that (a specific example)
[17:51] <kierqueen> yeah, even I am confused so can't elaborate
[17:51] <kierqueen> nacc which other channel?
[17:51] <OerHeks> winsen, with normal updates you woud have 45.7 already https://launchpad.net/thunderbird
[17:51] <kierqueen> Southern_Gentlem: I was givne only one link
[17:52] <Southern_Gentlem> and did you read it ?
[17:52] <nacc> kierqueen: #ubuntu-devel
[17:52] <winsen> OerHeks: what is the normal update? by terminal..?
[17:52] <nacc> kierqueen: this isn't really a support discussion
[17:52] <OerHeks> winsen, gui app, terminal, your choise.
[17:52] <kierqueen> Southern_Gentlem: yes
[17:53] <ducasse> kierqueen: you must read very fast
[17:53] <Southern_Gentlem> kierqueen, that shows you how to build a package step by step
[17:53] <kierqueen> I don't use bazaar I use git but would try if it is necessary
[17:53] <winsen> OerHeks: how to you update TB by terminal?
[17:53] <nacc> Southern_Gentlem: ducasse: moved to #ubuntu-devel
[17:54] <Zythyr> Need help. I am noob to shell commands. I want to list all the files in a directory that match the pattern "layer*block*.svg". How can I list them and sort it in alphabethical order
[17:54] <Southern_Gentlem> nacc,  inderstand
[17:54] <Southern_Gentlem> understand
[17:54] <winsen> OerHeks: how to you upgrade TB by terminal?
[17:54] <nacc> Southern_Gentlem: was just an FYI, so I don't need to type twice :)
[17:54] <nacc> winsen: I already told you how to do that.
[17:55] <anddam> I'd like a setup where Xorg isn't started by default, should I install desktop and then disable gdm (and possibly other units) or install server and then Xorg on it?
[17:55] <OerHeks> winsen, not, update all packages.
[17:56] <OerHeks> winsen but you are on debian, ask them too?
[17:56] <winsen> nacc: you mean by "apt install thunderbird"
[17:57] <nacc> winsen: if there is an update for it and you ahve the corresponding repository enabled, then yes, that should upgrade just thunderbird (well, and its dependencies if any and if needed)
[17:57] <cfoch-always> hi
[17:57] <winsen> nacc: thank you
[17:57] <cfoch-always> does sb know a live CD distro less than 700MB up-to-date?
[17:57] <akik> Zythyr: it's just "ls -1 layer*block*.svg"
[17:57] <nicomachus> might want an -a in there just to be safe ^
[17:58] <akik> Zythyr: the -1 makes it output in one column
[17:58] <OerHeks> cfoch-always, only Lubuntu fits on cd
[17:58] <OerHeks> "up2date" no
[17:58] <winsen> nacc: It's ok thanks all
[17:58] <cfoch-always> OerHeks: is it live?
[17:58] <nicomachus> is it.... live?
[17:58] <OerHeks> cfoch-always, yes, install and live mode
[17:59] <cfoch-always> the one which fits on a CD is live?
[17:59] <cfoch-always> to be more specific ^
[17:59] <nicomachus> cfoch-always: any OS booted from a cd/dvd/usb is live...
[17:59] <nicomachus> live just means it's not installed on the hard disk of the machine that's booting it.
[17:59] <OerHeks> nicomachus, correct, except * mini and server iso
[18:00] <Zythyr> akik Thanks. let me try to see if it works
[18:02] <Zythyr> akik It worked! HOwever, the listing of hte files is not in alphabehtical order. How do I make sure the filenames listed are sorted
[18:02] <Bash_John> Hello, I simply want to edit the hidden bash_profile file thou i can not find it in home directory i only find bashrc so what can i do ?
[18:03] <nacc> Bash_John: are you using a GUI to look for files?
[18:03] <viral_mutant> I am building a deb package. I need to include a bunch of service files into the package. I dumped all the files in debian directory
[18:03] <anddam> Bash_John: if you want to edit a file that doesn't exist you just go and create it
[18:03] <Bash_John> no i am using terminal with root
[18:03] <Bash_John> doin all command
[18:03] <viral_mutant> but it picks only the one which matches the name exactly
[18:03] <nacc> viral_mutant: probalby want to ask in #ubuntu-devel
[18:03] <akik> Zythyr: you can pipe the ls command output to sort i.e. ls | sort
[18:04] <nacc> Bash_John: the file may not exist for all users (specifically for the root user)
[18:04] <viral_mutant> nacc: ok. I asked on ubuntu-packaging, but I guess there are not enuf ppl
[18:04] <ducasse> Bash_John: there is no .bash_profile by default
[18:04] <nacc> viral_mutant: or it might take some time to respond
[18:05] <anddam> non default graphic session anyone?
[18:05] <Bash_John> damn miss leading thread i read on your site then :/ witch file can i edit to update profile then (need to add bin directory)
[18:05] <nacc> Bash_John: "your site"?
[18:06] <ducasse> Bash_John: you can add it there, just create it
[18:06] <Bash_John> the site that i read that from ?
[18:06] <nacc> Bash_John: you can always *create* a .bashrc as anddam and ducasse said
[18:06] <nacc> Bash_John: we have no idea what you've read or where
[18:06] <Bash_John> well i find a .bashrc file thou it has data in it
[18:06] <nacc> Bash_John: but also, if you don't know that you can create a .bashrc if it doesn't already exist, I'd be rather hesitant to suggest doing anything as root
[18:06] <anddam> nacc: or why he's doing it as root
[18:07] <anddam> ditto
[18:08] <Bash_John> well if now i cant do this i anyways will remove ubuntu so theres no point in being carefull
[18:08] <nacc> Bash_John: what?
[18:09] <Bash_John> "if you don't know that you can create a .bashrc"
[18:09] <Bash_John> I know how to thou i do not know how to delete xD
[18:09] <nacc> Bash_John: maybe start over. You are root and want to edit a ~/.bashrc file?
[18:09] <ducasse> Bash_John: .bashrc should be there
[18:09] <ducasse> Bash_John: .bash_profile you can create
[18:09] <Bash_John> na i am user and i do the su command
[18:10] <Guest83638> :)
[18:10] <nacc> Bash_John: you understand that su makes you root, right?
[18:10] <Bash_John> yes
[18:10] <Bash_John> thou i do not understand how it can be dangouruss :P
[18:11] <ducasse> Bash_John: full control and access can't be dangerous?
[18:11] <compdoc> you can delete or change permissions on all your files
[18:11] <Southern_Gentlem> Bash_John,  using su with root permissions means you have god powers and can totally remove everything on the hd
[18:11] <Bash_John> i have come to the conclution that everything in my home user folder i am suppose to have controll of and beond that i am not, so if i just follow thous rules when being root it should not mess anything
[18:12] <nacc> Bash_John: if you are exclusively in your home folder, you don't need root at alL!
[18:12] <Southern_Gentlem> Bash_John,  examples please
[18:12] <WeiJunLi> some useful kernel configs to enable when fuzzing?
[18:13] <Bash_John> ehm i do not tutch anything for example before the directory home/user
[18:13] <Southern_Gentlem> Bash_John,  what exactly is the issue
[18:14] <Bash_John> the exact issue is that i need to add paths to command line
[18:15] <Zythyr> akik I did "ls -1 layer*block*.svg
[18:15] <Zythyr> akik I did "ls -1 layer*block*.svg | sort". The resulting list is not sorted. The * is the ls command is a number
[18:16] <nacc> Bash_John: you're not exaclty listening. It's bad practice to be root when you don't need to be. Also you might be changing the permissions/ownership of your home directory which can break things. Also, if you type the wrong command, as root, you can erase your hard drive. Don't be root unless you need to be.
[18:16] <Bash_John> so it can find executable files
[18:16] <neldogz> Can I upgrade to the latest kernel on my Ubuntu 14.04 LTS release if I have Nvidia drivers installed from http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu
[18:16] <Bash_John> ok well il just restart the terminal then
[18:17] <nacc> Bash_John: if you just need it at the comamnd line, `export PATH=/path/to/add:$PATH`
[18:17] <Xundres> how to launch a not truste launcher?
[18:18] <Bash_John> i have read that thou i do not exactly understand it what is the add:$PATH ?
[18:18] <Zythyr> akik Actually I just noticed. Even the default "ls -1" list the file names, but they are not properly sorted. For example "layer_13_block_21.svg" comes before "layer_9_block_33.svg"
[18:18] <nacc> neldogz: do you mean the latest trusty kernel? hwe stack?
[18:19] <Bash_John> the line i need to add is /home/john/voxforge/bin/htk/bin
[18:19] <OerHeks> Xundres, can you repfrase that?
[18:19] <nacc> !bash | Bash_John
[18:19] <nacc> Bash_John: may want to read that  to get an intro to the PATH variable
[18:20] <Xundres> OerHeks: how to start an untrusted executable file
[18:20] <Bash_John> PATH=/home/john/voxforge/bin/htk/bin:$PATH or what ?
[18:20] <Bash_John> ah so path is a command
[18:20] <Bash_John> ok ok
[18:20] <nacc> Bash_John: no, PATH is a variable.
[18:21] <Bash_John> i never understand the --help anyways but il check if i understand this one
[18:22] <Bash_John> "Doc, My brain hurt's"
[18:22] <brainwash> Zythyr: change 9 to 09
[18:22] <Bash_John> "well we just have to take it out then"
[18:22] <OerHeks> Xundres, i would not, but this page might be any help https://www.howtogeek.com/285595/how-do-you-safely-run-an-untrusted-executable-file-on-linux/
[18:25] <Xundres> OerHeks: ty
[18:25] <Bash_John> I seem to just needed to read some few lines, i alreaddy knew pipe interface and shell
[18:27] <Zythyr> akik brainwash Okay i fixed hte issue. I have to use "ls -v -1". THe -v does natrual sort
[18:28] <Bash_John> Ok now i know, You have been a great help :D your parrents should be prowd :)
[18:29] <montem> hey, can someone suggest me some good terminal emulators for ubuntu, just like iTerm for OSX
[18:29] <jdfsajd> hi
[18:29] <jdfsajd> i need help
[18:29] <nicomachus> montem: xterm
[18:30] <OerHeks> montem, standard gnome-terminal is fine
[18:30] <jdfsajd> I installed ubuntu on my chomebook (acer r11) with crouton, but when i type "sudo startunity" the screen goes black and comes back to this: http://pastebin.com/L1k4XLAP
[18:30] <nix_> Is there a reason why the left click stops working for some time then eventually works again. Ubuntu 16.04
[18:31] <OerHeks> jdfsajd, you might want to reask in #crouton
[18:31] <montem> nicomachus: i am searching the web for terminal emulator many are suggesting Termintor. so, which one is better?
[18:32] <nacc> montem: that's an opinion, it depends on what you want/need.
[18:32] <nix_> montem, Hyperterm is coolish
[18:33] <nicomachus> montem: standard gnome-terminal, xterm, Hyperterm, Termintor, whatever. They all work. The rest is up to you, we can't help with your aesthetic decisions.
[18:33] <nix_> I use the default term with zsh + ohmyzsh :)
[18:33] <montem> nacc: i use linux as parallel desktop in OSX. So, i am not regular user of ubuntu terminal, but i want multiple window or tab.
[18:34] <OerHeks> standard gnome-terminal is best :-) and has tabs
[18:34] <nix_> ^
[18:34] <montem> OerHeks: ok i will try gnome-terminal, thanks
[18:34] <nix_> tabs is nice.
[18:35] <nix_> Is gnome-term on ubuntu as default?
[18:35] <nicomachus> yes
[18:35] <nix_> I run that and no tabs :(
[18:36] <nicomachus> Edit -> Preferences -> "Open new terminal in [Tabs]"
[18:36] <nix_> ah thank you kind sir nicomachus
[18:36] <OerHeks> ctrl SHIFT t opens new tab
[18:36] <OerHeks> ctrl ALT t new terminal, easy to remember
[18:37] <nix_> You would think that would be a default. Thanks
[18:37] <nicomachus> OerHeks: plebs. gotta change that shortcut to ALT+T. Less fingers needed. :D
[18:38]  * OerHeks presses ctrl pgup on nicomachus' keyboard
[18:38] <montem> nix_: i think OerHeks talking about terminal comes with gnome-ubuntu
[18:38] <nicomachus> 5~
[18:38] <OerHeks> montem, = gnome-terminal
[18:38] <nix_> Yeah, If I run gnome-terminal it's the one I use, the default terminal.
[18:39] <nix_> But is there and explanation why the left click suddenly stops working, and then eventually comes back?
[18:40] <nix_> I guess I could try and throw my mouse around a bit?
[18:40] <nicomachus> nix_: have you tried another mouse?
[18:41] <ducasse> nicomachus: change battery if wireless mouse
[18:41] <nix_> wired
[18:41] <ducasse> nix_: ^^
[18:41] <nicomachus> that too, nix_ ^
[18:42] <OerHeks> What happened to dirty mouse sanctuary?
[18:42] <nix_> I will try the mouse on another ubuntu install I have to see if it's the mouse or something else. Thanks
[18:49] <brunch875> is there a device I can use to write to notify-send?
[18:55] <sruli> when changing user passwd from commandline does it update ecryptfs?
[18:58] <kierqueen> hi
[18:59] <kierqueen> I opened a music rythmn box, and I closed it , nad now it is running in the background ? how do i get rid of it ?
[18:59] <kierqueen> Can't close that crappy songs guys
[18:59] <nacc> sruli: no, your user's password is unrelated to your disks encryption passphrase
[18:59] <sruli> kierqueen: just hit pause, it always runs in background
[19:00] <kierqueen> yes did manage to pause
[19:00] <kierqueen> but how do I close rythmbox in the volume control? Can I ?
[19:01] <sruli> nacc: i am talking about users ecryptfs home dir, when changing pass in gui, it does update it, i want to know if it also updates it when changing from command line
[19:01] <sruli> kierqueen: no doenst close
[19:02] <timetrex> any git ninjas out there? #git is the walking dead right now.
[19:03] <ioria> sruli, nope
[19:03] <sruli> nacc:ioria:  found the answer, it does not, reason being any user with elevated privileges can change your pass and get access to encrypted doc (gui requires to enter current pass) http://askubuntu.com/a/640157/483497
[19:04] <OerHeks> kierqueen, rhytmbox stays active, it is a Feature, you will find it in the sound icon top panel
[19:04] <ioria> sruli, if you change from cli, you need to reverse it again
[19:05] <OerHeks> timetrex, try #git ?
[19:05] <OerHeks> timetrex, but that is the support channel, i think they are not waiting for your news
[19:06] <timetrex> what?
[19:06] <timetrex> #git is all zombies
[19:06] <OerHeks> timetrex, fine, keep this channel clear for ubuntu support, thanks.
[19:06] <timetrex> no problem.
[19:17] <nircer> hi
[19:17] <nircer> hi ronnie
[19:17] <nircer> hi Mof
[19:18] <nicomachus> nircer: please don't say hi to everyone that joins the channel. we'll be here all day.
[19:22] <sruli> lubuntu 16.04 fresh install, i have no sound "amixer" gives output "amixer: control default open error: no such file or directory"
[19:24] <ioria> sruli, you should have an alsamixer gui in  sound&movie ... iirc
[19:24] <faLUCE> hello. I have issues with a realtek usb dongle. Here's the dmesg error:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24054699/  . What could I do?
[19:26] <ioria> faLUCE, TL-WN725N ?
[19:26] <sruli> ioria: yes, but nothing to control, imgur.com/TXGNmAm
[19:27] <faLUCE> ioria: Bus 002 Device 008: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter
[19:27] <ioria> faLUCE, maybe this could help http://askubuntu.com/questions/833886/tl-wn725n-v2-2-driver-doesnt-work
[19:29] <faLUCE> ioria: let's try, tnx
[19:29] <ioria> faLUCE, good luck
[19:30] <sruli> ioria: any ideas?
[19:30] <ioria> sruli, raspberry ?
[19:30] <sruli> ioria: lubuntu
[19:30] <sruli> ioria: google only showed me results for raspberry
[19:31] <ioria> yeah
[19:31] <sruli> ioria: google has become a disaster in last few months, cant find anything
[19:31] <nicomachus> user error. :P
[19:32] <ioria> sruli, don't use HDMI ? :þ
[19:32] <sruli> ioria: not aware if it is using hdmi, how do i change that?
[19:36] <ioria> sruli, http://askubuntu.com/questions/774458/installed-lubuntu-16-04-version-no-audio-now
[19:37] <faLUCE> ioria: the problem is that it's impossible to download the rtl8192eu-dkms driver on ubuntu 16
[19:37] <compizzzzz> hey, anyone able to help, im trying to get lightdm, tightvnc and ubuntu desktop working ... i get a login screen but when i login the desktop never appears
[19:37] <compizzzzz> compiz[14889]: segfault at 60 ip 00007f45540f0370 sp 00007fffb0f388f8 error 4 in libcomposite.so[7f45540d9000+24000]
[19:37] <faLUCE> ioria: "The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/hanipouspilot/rtlwifi/ubuntu yakkety Release' does not have a Release file"
[19:37] <compizzzzz> in my syslog
[19:37] <compizzzzz> system has two nvidia gtx1080s
[19:37] <ioria> faLUCE, thought you were on xenial
[19:38] <compizzzzz> im running slightly behind drivers as i need to for cuda 8.0
[19:38] <faLUCE> ioria: should I compile it?
[19:39] <ioria> faLUCE, maybe but look llike the git source is broken too
[19:39] <nicomachus> hanipouspilot.... I've used that one before.
[19:39] <nicomachus> ohhhh that rtlwifi fix. That's not necessary anymore, AFAIK
[19:39] <ducasse> sruli: can you pastebin output of 'aplay -l'?
[19:40] <compizzzzz> may be to do with proprietary drivers?
[19:42] <sruli> ducasse: ioria: it is hdm termbin.com/5hjb
[19:42] <ioria> faLUCE, no, it compiles git clone https://github.com/lwfinger/rtl8188eu
[19:43] <jpthing> what?
[19:43] <jpthing> That is a GIT site
[19:44] <nacc> jpthing: and?
[19:44] <nacc> jpthing: that wasn't directed at you, in any case
[19:44] <ioria> faLUCE, the issue seems with modprobe the module
[19:45] <jpthing> That doesn't tell me what it compiles to. It tells me what your compile compiled to. It is folly to assume they are the same.
[19:46] <nacc> jpthing: who are you talking to and about what?
[19:47] <nickelnick> boom
[19:47]  * nickelnick shakes, shakes, shakes, shakes the room
[19:47] <ducasse> sruli: do you want to use hdmi or analogue output?
[19:48] <sruli> ducasse: if possible i'd rather stay with the hdmi
[19:48] <jpthing> Seriously, this is the level of discussion here. Show me the compile log!
[19:49] <ioria> jpthing, maybe you can help faLUCE
[19:50] <jpthing> I doubt it since I have never heard of it.
[19:50] <nacc> jpthing: again, who are you talking to? what are you talking about?
[19:50] <ioria> jpthing, make 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188EUS    working on 16.10
[19:51] <jpthing> ahh
[19:51] <nicomachus> !who | jpthing
[19:52] <jpthing> Single-Chip IEEE 802.11b/g/n 1T1R WLAN Controller with USB 2.0 Interface
[19:52] <lupus> i'm getting this bug when launching idea-ultimate: http://imgur.com/a/EGWwu , am i missing a font or something? all help is very appreciated, i need intellij idea to do my homework for tomorrow.
[19:52] <joescript> hi
[19:53] <nacc> lupus: use a pastebin, it's too blurry to read
[19:53] <joescript> does  anyone for example create ubuntu distro but prompt the user for network configuration. trying to create an appliance for someone
[19:53] <sruli> ducasse: any idea how i can get it to work in hdmi?
[19:54] <lupus> nacc: the issue is the program only has rectangular squares where the text is supposed to go
[19:54] <lupus> http://i.imgur.com/BJ8mHUf.jpg , the one on the left screen
[19:54] <nacc> lupus: where did you get intellij ide from?
[19:54] <lupus> nacc: umake ide idea-ultimate
[19:54] <ducasse> sruli: try saving http://termbin.com/rb9g as /etc/asound.conf - see if that helps
[19:55] <ducasse> sruli: btw, in future please don't chop of the https:// part, as many clients no longer recognize it as a link then
[19:55] <nacc> lupus: probably shuld ask the idea folks then
[19:55] <mylisto> I'm trying to get a medialink bluetooth adapter to work with ubuntu.  What do I need to do?
[19:55] <OerHeks> sruli,  install pavucontrol or see this page http://askubuntu.com/questions/80384/where-are-the-lxde-sound-preferences
[19:55] <lupus> nacc: idea folks? do you mean umake?
[19:56] <sruli> ducasse: sorry about the link, i manually typed it in, chat is on a different PC, will try to remember to put https in future
[19:57] <ducasse> sruli: not a big problem :)
[19:58] <paco_> hoal hoala
[19:59] <paco_> djaia
[19:59] <gutschke> I am a free (i.e. community) subscriber to Canonical Livepatch. It unexpectedly failed today and I tried to submit a bug report. Every time, I access the canonical-livepatch package on Launchpad, it errors out. Other packages seem to be fine, though. Does anybody know if there is any other way to report a bug for Livepatch?
[20:00] <Guest41136> hi room
[20:02] <nacc> gutschke: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/canonical-livepatch/+filebug ?
[20:02] <nacc> lupus: you built it from source?
[20:02] <gutschke> That's what I did. I get to the stage where I can enter data, and when I submit the bug report, it simply prints an OOPS message and discards everything that I entered. Very frustrating
[20:03] <nacc> lupus: i guess maybe you are using android studio or something? perhaps ask in their channel (I think they have their own)
[20:03] <nacc> gutschke: ok -- you might ask in #launchpad and mention your OOPS id
[20:03] <gutschke> I tried multiple times. I logged out and back in. I enter just minimal text. I seems unrelated to what I type. I think, it's just the package that can't accept bug reports.
[20:03] <nacc> gutschke: iirc, livepatch is actually a snap anyways, not sure if that's the right place to report the bug
[20:03] <amir_> \exit
[20:04] <gutschke> That's the place that the official announcement of the service recommended.
[20:04] <gutschke> If I was a paying subscriber, than there apparently are other ways to report bugs
[20:04] <nacc> gutschke: ok, i wasn't sure
[20:04] <nacc> gutschke: aiui, unless the LP devs put something in place, it shouldn't OOPs for a specific package like that
[20:05] <nacc> gutschke: what was the failure message (from livepatch) btw?
[20:05] <gutschke> nacc: that's what I thought. But I can't spot anything else that would be unique to my bug report. And it is somewhat suspicious that this package seems to have zero bugs filed against it.
[20:06] <nacc> gutschke: suspicous indeed, hence i'd ask the LP folks (in #launchpad)
[20:06] <ducasse> sruli: did that conf file help?
[20:06] <bnason> So during package upgrade, a new kernel tried to install but my /boot folder is full. I'm trying to purge old ones, but I just get "linux-image-generic : Depends: linux-image-4.4.0-64-generic but it is not going to be installed" which is the new one
[20:06] <gutschke> It successfully applied a whole bunch of CVE fixes this morning and then asked me to reboot. I did that, and afterwards LivePatch silently failed to restart. In other words, while I think I am still protected, I am not!
[20:07] <bnason> and trying to run "apt -f install" like it says fails because there is no space left! anyone know how to fix this?
[20:07] <nacc> bnason: how are you purging them?
[20:07] <lupus> nacc: idea-ultimate is a binary afaik
[20:07] <gutschke> The error message is that it no longer likes my Ubuntu distribution. It insists that it only supports 16.04 LTS -- which of course is what I have been running all along.
[20:07] <bnason> apt purge linux-image-4.4.0-31-generic linux-image-4.4.0-34-generic....
[20:07] <nacc> bnason: just use `apt autoremove`
[20:07] <nacc> bnason: purging manually will continue the installation immediately
[20:08] <nacc> bnason: iirc
[20:08] <bnason> nacc, autoremove gives me the same message, 1 sec elt me post it
[20:08] <lupus> nacc: changing the system font and rebooting seemed to have resolved my problem
[20:08] <lmw> Is Ubuntu better than Debian?
[20:08] <bnason> http://pastebin.com/NH7Dk49N
[20:08] <nacc> lupus: ok
[20:08] <nacc> lmw: that's a matter of opinion
[20:09] <bnason> ah -f is going forward i think
[20:09] <sruli> ducasse: going to try it now
[20:11] <webly> Ubuntu core is "transactionally updated"? What does this mean? apt package manager?
[20:11] <bnason> nope still failing arg
[20:12] <nacc> webly: no, core doesn't use apt
[20:12] <nacc> bnason: you might have to use dpkg manually if you're wedged like this
[20:13] <nacc> bnason: can you pastebin `ls -ahl /boot`
[20:13] <kosta7> hello ubuntu channel
[20:13] <webly> nacc: oh cool, a bit what Courgette does with Google Chrome? :)
[20:13] <nacc> webly: i don't know what that is
[20:13] <nacc> webly: but i'd assume not
[20:15] <faLUCE> ioria: sorry, I was out. I'm reading what you just wrote
[20:16] <ducasse> gutschke: as an interim solution, see if livepatch snap was recently updated, and rollback if so?
[20:16] <faLUCE> ioria: I tried to compile the git clone too, blacklisted the modprobe one, and installed the git one. But have the same problem
[20:17] <ioria> faLUCE, no networks listed ?
[20:17] <faLUCE> ioria: no networks listed
[20:18] <lord-ragnarock> I'm not at my Macintosh right now, but tit seems updating from 12.04 to 14.04 basically messed with my display settings, such that the only resolution I can see and choose is 1600x1200, instead of 1920x1080 like it was originally. (PowerPC, Mac, ATI Radeon 7000)
[20:18] <lord-ragnarock> Is there an easy solution I could copy down and use at the mac when I get home? :)
[20:18] <ioria> faLUCE, ca you paste   journalctl -u systemd-modules-load.service
[20:19] <mylisto> I've just added my bluetooth earbugs via a medialink bluetooth USB adapter.  Trying to figure out how to select my earbuds.  http://pasteboard.co/BVdgj5aFY.png
[20:19] <faLUCE> ioria: currently I removed the git installed, and un-blacklisted the black list. Should I redo that?
[20:19] <ioria> faLUCE, nope
[20:21] <faLUCE> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24054996/
[20:21] <bnason> nacc i think dpkg --purge is working, thanks
[20:21] <sruli> ducasse: i added that conf file, no difference, anything else i can try?
[20:21] <nacc> bnason: cool
[20:21] <webly> Ubuntu latest stable vs Ubuntu LTS for Web developers? :) Especially for a Linux VM that is used on windows.
[20:22] <bekks> webly: If you need to ask a question like that, the answer is LTS, always.
[20:22] <ioria> faLUCE, sudo lshw -C Network
[20:22] <ducasse> sruli: i gtg in a minute, but read the alsa page on the arch wiki, it has a lot of useful info.
[20:23] <sruli> ducasse: actuallt, i now get outoput on amxer, just cant figure out where to set the volume, thnaks
[20:23] <faLUCE> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24055005/
[20:23] <ducasse> sruli: run 'alsamixer'
[20:24] <ioria> faLUCE, if you shutdown the other wifi ?
[20:24] <faLUCE> ioria: in fact I was thinking  about a conflict, given that they are both realtek
[20:24] <faLUCE> ioria: let's try
[20:24] <faLUCE> (disconnecting)
[20:25] <ioria> faLUCE, try to down it and  configure the wlxf4f26d110211 interface
[20:25] <ioria> faLUCE, wireless=unassociated
[20:25] <webly> bekks: when I need to ask that question :) so this means that I am a ubuntu beginner and should embrace stabilitiy
[20:26] <ducasse> webly: it means run lts unless you have a real *need* not to
[20:27] <faLUCE> ioria: disconnected the other nic, plugged the usb one, and got this from dmesg:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/24055020/
[20:27] <faLUCE> ioria: note "[gio feb 23 21:25:00 2017] Error: Driver 'r8188eu' is already registered, aborting..."
[20:28] <ioria> faLUCE, did you removed the git module ?
[20:28] <faLUCE> ioria: yes, but I did not reboot
[20:28] <faLUCE> after removing
[20:29] <faLUCE> let's reboot
[20:30] <webly> ducasse: thanks:)
[20:30] <sruli> ducasse: the hdmi card has no volume option, how can i set it to use the intel PCH?
[20:31] <ducasse> sruli: you can't set volume through pavucontrol either?
[20:33] <sruli> ducasse: cant open it http://paste.ubuntu.com/24055045
[20:34] <faLUCE> ioria: disconnected from the non-usb wifi, plugged the usb wifi and this is dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/24055043/
[20:34] <faLUCE> (I can't see its network yet)
[20:35] <faLUCE> ioria: maybe it has something to do with ipv6
[20:35] <sruli> ducasse: found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pavucontrol/+bug/881797 will try it now
[20:35] <ioria> faLUCE, have you edited the new interface configuration ?
[20:35] <faLUCE> ioria: yes, it's configured as a hotspot with network-manager
[20:35] <ducasse> sruli: try reinstalling libatkmm-1.6-1v5
[20:35] <ducasse> sruli: but to switch, replace both 'card 0' with 'card 1'
[20:36] <ioria> faLUCE, well, first i'd try if it works normally .... set it static . You know how ?
[20:37] <sruli> ducasse: only that one, in the bug report it suggest a list of packages (thanks for adding the 'v5' its not in the list and got an error)
[20:37] <faLUCE>  ioria, what do you mean with static?
[20:38] <faLUCE> ioria: static ip?
[20:38] <ioria> faLUCE, you need your ssid, your router passphrase, ip, netmask (255.255.255.0) and dns 8.8.8.8.   right click on Network icon and 'Edit onnection'
[20:38] <faLUCE> ioria: do you mean that I should try It as a client to my router, instead of hotspot?
[20:39] <ioria> faLUCE, yes
[20:40] <ducasse> sruli: which ubuntu are you on btw?
[20:41] <ioria> faLUCE, in IPv4 tab, i mean
[20:42] <sruli> ducasse: lubuntu 16.04 , i had to install all packages listed in teh bug report to get pauvcontrol runiing, i change to card 0, will reboot now and test (sudo apt-get --reinstall install libsigc++-2.0-0v5 libpangomm-1.4-1v5 libcairomm-1.0-1v5 libglibmm-2.4-1v5 libatkmm-1.6-1v5)
[20:44] <craptalk> i am running ubuntu-gnome on my laptop, and the battery lasts around 2 hours with browsing, streaming, coding, activities
[20:44] <craptalk> is it normal? since the ubuntu-gnome also has many animations by default?
[20:46] <sruli> ducasse: as if by magic, i now have sound ;-) thanks and thank you ioria & OerHeks
[20:46] <paolo_> ioria: it works as a client. Then there are two possibilities: 1) network manager is messing stuff  2) the driver doesn't work as hotspot
[20:46] <Kingsy> can someone help me.. firstly how do you get internet access in the recovery console again?
[20:47] <ducasse> sruli: yw :)
[20:47] <faLUCE> ioria: it works as a client. Then there are two possibilities: 1) network manager is messing stuff  2) the driver doesn't work as hotspot
[20:47] <ioria> faLUCE, ok ...mmmm
[20:48] <Kingsy> oh nm
[20:48] <ioria> faLUCE, not an 'hotspot' specialist... but you need also ethernet for that
[20:48] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: OIn the recovery console menu, enable networking option .
[20:48] <ioria> faLUCE, sy, you have eth driver=r8168
[20:49] <craptalk> or is it some menu pref to be save power man or boost power man?
[20:49] <thyriaen> hi, i am looking for a way to get chrome ( and/or chromium ) to send notifications with libnotify instead of the chrome buildin nnotification so it gets better integrated into your desktop - is there a way ?
[20:50] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: thanks
[20:50] <ioria> sruli, tell us details ... :þ
[20:50] <Zythyr> Need help. I am running Ubuntu 16. I connected it to a mointor that has a a low resolution. WHen Ubuntu boots, nothing shows up. Its just a black screen. WHen I change the moinitor a high resolution monitor, eveyrthing works fine
[20:50] <Kingsy> here is a question, I hvae just installed ubuntu minimal. No DE, no extra packages.. and it hangs just after it shows the blocks etc for the main drive...
[20:51] <Kingsy> however if I install ubuntu desktop it works.. boots up just fine
[20:51] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: I slow but get there . Glad ya seen the way .
[20:51] <CarlFK> Kingsy: hit alt-f1 - I bet you get a login prompt
[20:51] <Kingsy> CarlFK: alt f1? erm ok but I cant see why that would work
[20:52] <Kingsy> CarlFK: na, no login prompt
[20:52] <CarlFK> Kingsy: alt-f1 to f7 flip between VGs
[20:52] <Kingsy> it hangs at /dev/sda1: clean, blah blah
[20:52] <CarlFK> Kingsy: alt-f1 to f7 flip between VTs
[20:52] <Kingsy> CarlFK: no effect
[20:52] <faLUCE> ioria: I'm seeing that network-manager (or network-manager's GUI) is messing up stuff. it's not the first time. I had many problems with network-manager in the past
[20:53] <Kingsy> I am thinking its something to do with my gfx card but I just don't see why it matters if I don't have a DE
[20:53] <Kingsy> surely the opensource drivers should be enough to get my to a prompt
[20:53] <ioria> faLUCE, i see, how are creating the hotspot ?
[20:53] <sruli> ioria: firstly i created /etc/asound.conf with config from http://termbin.com/rb9g (from ducasse) installed pauvcontrol (pauvcontrol didnt work needed to reinstall all pkgs from #4 in launchpad bug 881797) still couldnt get hdmi to work so changed to pch by changing 0 to 1 in /etc/asound.conf
[20:54] <faLUCE> ioria: in fact, I don't see the new connection in the list. I have to choose an existing connection and then I have to choose the NIC in a window, on the fly
[20:54] <CarlFK> Kingsy: hmm.. hold shift down on boot to get grub menu, try rescue mode.  see if that gets you to a prompt
[20:54] <Kingsy> CarlFK: there is only recovery and normal mode from what I see hold on
[20:54] <faLUCE> ioria: I created the hotspot with the network manager GUI
[20:54] <ioria> sruli, thanx
[20:54] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: In a minimal install, try and tell the kernel you are booting to a terminal . in the grub boot line remove quiet splash and all after . and insert the term text .
[20:54] <CarlFK> Kingsy: I am having a similar issue, except I don't care because I am sshing into the box so I haven't dug into it
[20:55] <ducasse> sruli: aplay -l gives you the card number to use, so you know
[20:55] <CarlFK> Bashing-om: what is "insert the term text .' ?
[20:55] <Kingsy> CarlFK: oh weird.. I managed to get to a login by entering recovery mode then just resuming startup
[20:55] <CarlFK> Kingsy: same here
[20:55] <Kingsy> hrm
[20:56] <sruli> ducasse: added to my notes, thanks
[20:56] <Kingsy> CarlFK: given that I don't know what the problem is I am not sure how to proceed
[20:56] <CarlFK> Kingsy: oh, it may be ctrl-alt-f1 to 7...
[20:56] <Bashing-om> CarlFK: Instead of the boot parameters "quiet splash ro vt_handoff=7" replace them with the word text .
[20:56] <BuckMinster> hello
[20:57] <Kingsy> installing openobox now
[20:57] <Kingsy> I'll install lightdm too
[20:57] <Kingsy> see if it boots :P
[20:57] <CarlFK> Bashing-om: ah. thanks.  Kingsy do that "text" thing ^^^
[20:57] <Kingsy> ok will do if this doesnt work
[20:57] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: Did you install xorg in this minimal install ?
[20:57] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: no
[20:57] <Kingsy> installing it now
[20:58] <Bashing-om> Kow: K; no xorg == no GUI .
[20:58] <gde33> lol https://postimg.org/image/wpvmyqvlj/
[20:58] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: yeah its not that I wasnt getting a GUI. I wasnt getting to a prompt
[20:59] <Kingsy> wow lightdm needs ALOT of stuff
[20:59] <Kingsy> heh
[20:59] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: Not to belabor the obvious; but you did verify the .iso download file ?
[20:59] <gde33> it was much work getting the screenshot out of the laptop
[21:00] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: yeah I did a checksum on it
[21:00] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: also, like I say, it works for unity
[21:00] <Kingsy> but I hate unity :P
[21:00] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: On my core install . singe user system .. there is no need of a login manager . useless overhead in my opinion .
[21:01] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: so how do you get into the GUI? startx?
[21:02] <faLUCE> well. just saw that network-manager is a complete disaster. I don't understand why ubuntu still uses it
[21:03] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: Yeah something similar / with xfce it is ' startxfce4 " I would expect openbox top have something similar . Once configs are done one can then start the GUI with the command ' startx ' .
[21:03] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: got ya, yeah thats no good here. This is an HTPC so it needs to be friendly :)
[21:05] <Kingsy> hmm what login manager does unity use?
[21:06] <OerHeks> Kingsy, .. but you hate unity ?
[21:07] <Kingsy> hehe thats why I am asking
[21:08] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: I do not think you need or want lightdm if ya going to run openbox . gemme a tic to hunt up a guide for the minimal install .
[21:09] <Kingsy> yeah lightdm wAs the wrong choice I purged it
[21:10] <heari> hi guys
[21:10] <heari> I need a help about users
[21:11] <OerHeks> !details | heari
[21:11] <heari> when I use sudo command
[21:11] <heari> sudoers doesn't here
[21:11] <aruns> Hi, using Java 1.8
[21:11] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: Whule I seek the one I look for; this will keep ya occupied : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems .
[21:12] <aruns> On Ubuntu 16.04. Working on an application with some friends, a basic Twitch IRC bot.
[21:12] <heari> I took message from shell
[21:12] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: nice
[21:12] <sruli> ducasse: you still around?
[21:15] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: I could try out SLiM
[21:15] <zzero11> question has anyone experience installing https://github.com/apple/ccs-calendarserver ?
[21:16] <theseb> help! systemd script works but won't run at STARTUP!? how fix?
[21:19] <nacc> theseb: is it enabled to run at startup?
[21:20] <DustBunny> Hey all, if I chmod my working directory for Python to 777 will hackers be able to access the server hosting my Django app?
[21:21] <wedgie> DustBunny: not necessarily, but it can make their life easier if they manage to find a vulnerability. Does your python app need to be able to write to that directory?
[21:21] <OerHeks> DustBunny, could well be, 777 is silly
[21:22] <Kingsy> argh I just don't understand... riddle me tis
[21:22] <Kingsy> this
[21:22] <OerHeks> DustBunny, time to reinstall ;-)
[21:22] <DustBunny> It's a RESTful API and according to my error logs it's because some of the files it accesses don't have the proper permissions
[21:22] <Kingsy> I install ubuntu minimal, install openbox, and lightdm reboot and it works (well I get to the login screen). Do the exact same thing but with Slim and it crashes on the /dev/sda1: clean ... files ... blocks screen
[21:23] <Kingsy> what in the world
[21:23] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: Not find the one I want for a guide - poor memory that I have - but this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal is good .
[21:23] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: seem my message above??
[21:23] <Kingsy> really weird
[21:23] <wedgie> DustBunny: what does their documentation say the proper permissions are?
[21:24] <Zythyr> Need help. I am running Ubuntu 16 on a desktop. I have Monitor 1 which supports 1920x1080. Monitor 2 supports 1280x800. When I connect the desktop to Mintor 1, it works perfect. However, when I connect to Mointor 2, I end up booting to a blacksccreen after the Ubuntu's purple sccreen. I edited GRUB to include "nomodeset" which allows me to properly set boot Mointor 1 and 2. However, I am unable
[21:24] <Zythyr> to change the mointor resolution.
[21:24] <DustBunny> Well it doesn't say, just errno 13
[21:24] <DustBunny> "Errno 13: Permission Denied"
[21:24] <nicomachus> Zythyr: you can use xrandr to set it manually
[21:25] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: I do think ya got to configure the login manager ( slim ) . In all instances can you boot to terminal and then try and start the GUI ?
[21:25] <nicomachus> Zythyr: see here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[21:26] <Zythyr> nicomachus I used the command xrandr, but it only had one opption for hte reoslution which is 640x480
[21:27] <mylisto> I'm trying to get my bluetooth earbuds to work with Ubuntu.  Ubuntu sees them and has paired them....but it shows  connection off.  What can I do?
[21:27] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: only if I enter recovery mode first
[21:27] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: which seems weird in itself? why would that work but booting directly wouldnt?
[21:28] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: sorry I cant remember what you said early about grub options.. could that be the fix?
[21:28] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: Then something is hosed up if the only access you have is via recovery . In Booting to terminal the GUI graphic's driver is not at that time even loaded .
[21:29] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: thig is tho, if I install lightdm then reboot it works.. no recovery mode needed I get to the login screen
[21:30] <theseb> nacc: how enable it to run at startup? is that an extra step when setting up systemd script?
[21:31] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: All I can think of for lightdm working is the default settings 'work' whereas for slim ya got to set them . Want to try and biit to terminal - login to the system from there ?
[21:31] <theseb> nacc: i can do "service myapp start" and THAT works...just not automagically when i reboot
[21:31] <Bashing-om> biit/boot*
[21:31] <nacc> theseb: something like `systemctl enable NAME` iirc
[21:33] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: Ouch ! .. wait one .. what release is this - systemd ? - then we got to do a different parameter to get to terminal .
[21:33] <theseb> nacc: it is a shame they just don't all fire up at bootup
[21:33] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: yeah 16.10. Oh there we go.
[21:33] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: I am at a login screen now...
[21:33] <Kingsy> openbox doesnt install xorg as a dependency ?
[21:34] <Kingsy> now I feel stupid
[21:35] <Kingsy> however I am still unsure why I cant just clean boot to a terminal prompt.... :P
[21:35] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: All a process of learning . minimal install you tell the system what and when to install . dependencies !
[21:35] <Kingsy> just thought it was an apt-get thing
[21:36] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: any thoughts on my previous message? Why can I clean boot into a login manager but I cAnt into a terminal prompt?
[21:36] <Kingsy> I has to be something to do with my gfx card or setup
[21:39] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: Let's tell the kernel ya want to boot to terminal . at the grub boot menu 'e' key for edit mode => boot parameters screen; arrow down to the line starting with linux and replace quiet splash and all after with systemd.unit=multi-user.target . key combo ctl+x to continue to TTY1 terminal .
[21:40] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: cool, but surely that cant be a feature? the system crashes if you do not have a GUI unless you tell it not to crash...
[21:40] <Kingsy> sounds strange.
[21:42] <CarlFK> I'm trying to build http://packages.ubuntu.com/zesty/purple-matrix for xenial.  wget the org and debian tars.. untar.. debuild errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/24055250/
[21:43] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: There is a bunch I do not know about systemd ! .. I can accept that if there exist vt_handoff=7 in the boot line . will drive the system nuts if a GUI is not configured . The GUI is TTY7 .
[21:43] <CarlFK> Kingsy: I don't think it is crashing.  I bet if you have sshd you can ssh to it.
[21:44] <Kingsy> could be the case
[21:46] <OerHeks> CarlFK, " This project is somewhat alpha, and only basic functionality has been implemented"  contact Alberto Garcia ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/purple-matrix/0.0.0+git20161120-1
[21:46] <CarlFK> OerHeks: I don't want to bug them about building debs.
[21:47] <CarlFK> i'm sure there are pages that will give me the steps that might work, im just not sure what to search for
[21:48] <OerHeks> CarlFK,  and : Incompatible with Pidgin <2.11 -- https://github.com/matrix-org/purple-matrix/issues/16
[21:49] <User21> Hi guys
[21:50] <CarlFK> OerHeks: scroll down to "@penguin42 thanks a lot, I confirm that it works on Ubuntu 16.04 :)"
[21:50] <brainwash> CarlFK: did you modify the file which is mentioned in your log file?
[21:50] <OerHeks> CarlFK, that is, if you pulled the code from github?
[21:51] <CarlFK> brainwash: nope.  wget/wget/tar/debuild
[21:51] <mylisto> I'm trying to get my bluetooth earbuds to work with Ubuntu.  Ubuntu sees them and has paired them....but it shows  connection off.  What can I do?
[21:54] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: !! UEFI system and a minimal installer ??? No can do -easily- : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD .
[21:54] <Kingsy> wh in the hell does apt-get install nvidia-378 install lightdm ?
[21:54] <Kingsy> why*
[21:54] <brainwash> CarlFK: maybe first remove purple-matrix_0.0.0+git20170105.orig.tar.xz and purple-matrix_0.0.0+git20170105-1.debian.orig.tar.xz and debuild then?
[21:55] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: A driver also installing a DM .. a 1st here for me too .
[21:55] <brainwash> CarlFK: your log tells you why the task failed
[21:55] <Kingsy> what in the world..... ok going to flatten it.
[21:56] <CarlFK> brainwash: that doesn't tell me how to fix it... any idea what the dir should be called that I untar the source into?
[21:56] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: ^^ UEFI box ?
[21:57] <CarlFK> OerHeks: +git20170105 should include the fix mentioned
[21:59] <CarlFK> hey I guessed right: purple-matrix_0.0.0+git20170105-1
[21:59] <CarlFK> Setting up purple-matrix (0.0.0+git20170105-1) ...  lets see if this flys....
[22:00] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: yeah
[22:01] <Malakuss> ^______^   hay  =)    I LOVE YOU   LIVE
[22:01] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: UEFI is just the new "BIOS right ?
[22:01] <Kingsy> heh not sure myself
[22:02] <brainwash> CarlFK: I assume that the directory does not matter
[22:02] <brainwash> the downloaded files should not be located in that dir
[22:02] <Bashing-om> !efi | Kingsy
[22:04] <CarlFK> brainwash: hmm, you are right.   in the past I have gotten errors about it not being right, but I guess that was for something else.  generally I bump into problems putting stuff on a PPA
[22:11] <faLUCE> (ubuntu 16.10) hello. My network card connects and disconnects continously, and gives this dmesg output:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/24055532/  . How can I solve? It seems that this bad issue has something to do with power managment ("Limiting TX power to 23 (23 - 0) dBm as advertised by 32:91:8f:da:ec:79")
[22:12] <OerHeks> faLUCE, no, that is just a line negotiation with the router.
[22:12] <Kingsy> ok what the hell is happening.. haha
[22:12] <faLUCE> OerHeks: ok... but how could I fix that?
[22:13] <Kingsy> if I install this ppa --> https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa <-- then so sudo apt-get intall nvidia-378 it attempts to install loads of gnome stuff along with the driver... why? does anyone know?
[22:14] <OerHeks> faLUCE, if this is the same issue earlier, no clue how to 'fix' tl-wn725
[22:14] <OerHeks> some wifi adapters come with bad drivers.
[22:14] <OerHeks> not our fault, though..
[22:15] <faLUCE> OerHeks: no, I solved the earlier issue (access point)
[22:15] <faLUCE> OerHeks: the access point issue was only a network-manager GUI issue
[22:17] <Kingsy> hrm, I just don't understand.. haha
[22:19] <nacc> Kingsy: can you pastebin `apt-cache show nvidia-378` ?
[22:19] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: a thought; as this is a fresh install , after the install of the system completed the 1st thing you did was ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' ???
[22:20] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: yeah done that
[22:20] <Kingsy> nacc: sure 1 second
[22:20] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: All I can say too is weird .
[22:21] <OerHeks> i suspect as part of lightdm
[22:21] <comptekki> what is preferred?  apt upgrade or dist-upgrade?
[22:22] <OerHeks> comptekki, both are valid, but do different things
[22:22] <Kingsy> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24055593
[22:22] <OerHeks> !distu-upgrade
[22:22] <nacc> comptekki: apt has upgrade and full-upgrade, technically, dist-upgrade is for compat with apt-get
[22:23] <OerHeks> !distupgrade
[22:24] <comptekki> it seems that if I use just upgrade not everything gets updated, but dist-upgrade does.  I need to check closer the diff...
[22:25] <nacc> comptekki: with `apt`, I would recommend using full-upgrade if you only are interested in staying up to date
[22:26] <Kingsy> nacc: any ideas on that? I don't see anything funny in that output you asked for... but its 100% asking to install gnome when I try to install this
[22:26] <nacc> Kingsy: can you show it in a pastebin?
[22:26] <comptekki> nacc, ok thanks
[22:26] <comptekki> checking man apt now
[22:27] <Kingsy> one moment
[22:29] <comptekki> yeah - looks like apt full-upgrade would do it like apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:39] <faLUCE> OerHeks: solved (work-around) in this way http://askubuntu.com/questions/804607/ubuntu-16-04-wifi-intel-7265-slow-disconnecting
[22:40] <Kingsy> nacc: https://hastebin.com/ixujobikak.sql
[22:40] <Kingsy> nacc: bloody hell that took some doing, couldnt copy out of rxvt for some reason
[22:54] <nacc> Kingsy: presuming you had networking, you can use pastebinit
[22:55] <Kingsy> nacc: I couldnt it was hanging beause it wanted a Y/n
[22:55] <Kingsy> nacc: anyway, doesnt matter.. you see the output? weird eh?
[22:55] <nacc> Kingsy: ah i see -- it is weird
[22:55] <nacc> Kingsy: you could try and figure it out via `apt-cache rdepends...`
[22:55] <nacc> Kingsy: starting with some gnome package
[22:55] <nacc> Kingsy: and going backwards until you hit nvidia-378
[22:56] <Kingsy> nacc: but lets say I figure out a dependency.. how do I resolve it?
[22:56] <Kingsy> is it ultimately.. I cant install the driver this way unless I install all this crap?
[22:58] <Sbur> Where can I find a program for doing a timeline for my Ubuntu desktop?
[22:58] <khalidu1> good evening
[22:59] <faLUCE> I can't find /etc/rc.local anymore in 16.10. What should I use, instead?
[22:59] <Sbur> Correction ... I want to prepare a timeline of events in my life with my Ubuntu based desktop
[23:00] <Bashing-om> Kingsy: I too experienced somewhat similar - new nVida card on 14.04 minimal - I declined installing the poriprietary driver due to all the bloat also installed . I do not recall what all the ystem wanted to install, however .
[23:00] <Kingsy> Bashing-om: I see.
[23:00] <Kingsy> well I am going to install the driver.. even if I have to do it oem
[23:01] <khalidu1> i want to ask about kdc    kinit: Cannot find KDC for realm "KHALID.LOCAL" while getting initial credentials
[23:03] <khalidu1> anyhelp about tht
[23:05] <expert975> Is there a place for getting help? Can I get some help on a system freeze problem?
[23:05] <tony_> Quit
[23:06] <Bashing-om> !details | expert975
[23:06] <nacc> Kingsy: right, you probably can't work around it
[23:08] <thyriaen> hi, i am looking for a way to get chrome ( and/or chromium ) to send notifications with libnotify instead of the chrome buildin nnotification so it gets better integrated into your desktop - is there a way ?
[23:08] <expert975> I'm using ElementaryOS. My problem is, if I open a minimum amount of programs, the system freezes.
[23:08] <nacc> !elementary | expert975
[23:09] <faLUCE> any idea about this? rc.local is missing in 16.10.... this is weird....
[23:09] <khalidu1> im tryin to make a domain controller but everytime i reach the step of kinit administrator@KHALID.LOCAL   it gives me the message kinit: Cannot find KDC for realm "KHALID.LOCAL" while getting initial credentials
[23:09] <Si0n> thyriaen: I think you need to use an extension e.g. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/libnotify-notifications-i/epckjefillidgmfmclhcbaembhpdeijg
[23:10] <thyriaen> that extension doesnt work
[23:10] <thyriaen> hasnt been maintained since 2014 or something
[23:10] <jak-e> Why for some install via apt-get do I have to manually install dependencies (also via apt-get). Shouldn't i just be prompted to install any dependencies if it was packaged correctly?
[23:11] <nacc> jak-e: such as? and for what version of ubuntu?
[23:12] <Si0n> thyriaen: Oh sorry, it's been a while since I last used :-\
[23:12] <brainwash> thyriaen: did you read http://askubuntu.com/questions/465727/activate-chrome-native-notifications ?
[23:14] <pavlos> jak-e, when you install a pkg, it also tells you it will install pkg-commom, for example. It does install deps
[23:16] <brainwash> thyriaen: other than that, you should ask in #chromium
[23:16] <thyriaen> ah nice
[23:16] <thyriaen> thank you
[23:16] <thyriaen> will do <3
[23:17] <jak-e> Thanks pavlos and nacc, I think you've answered my question.
[23:18] <thyriaen> brainwash, i have not but i will thanks
[23:18] <pavlos> jak-e, example, I tried (dry-run) to install psensor, it will bring psensor-common as well. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24055952/
[23:34] <tonyt> more joins quits than chatting going on in here lol
[23:37] <Kingsy> haha yup
[23:37] <Kingsy> I am still raging about this nvidia issue
[23:38] <mylisto> I'm trying to get my bluetooth earbuds to work with Ubuntu.  Ubuntu sees them and has paired them....but it shows  connection off.  What can I do?
[23:43] <kaosine> mylisto: try this, just found it https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2276467
[23:55] <sruli> how can i get udev to write to a file vendor & idproduct of usb device each time they connect
[23:56] <sruli> in other words i want to "echo {idVendor}:{idProduct} > /file"