| R13ose | I added a small panel on the left side but everytime a new window is open for any app this appears. How do I make this stop and only show the panel when I hover over? | 00:53 |
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| user|65127 | hello | 02:05 |
| user|65127 | i have a question | 02:05 |
| user|65127 | why kubunt 16.04 is soo lsow | 02:06 |
| user|65127 | Had installed kubuntu 14 and when it was updated to version 16.04 it became very slow | 02:08 |
| pete_ | what's a good program to use to test cpu? stress? mprime? other? | 02:18 |
| pete_ | anyone here can answer? | 02:33 |
| MK | Hm, when I open Discover, it lists 0 items installed. How can I get it to populate with what I have installed? | 03:07 |
| MK | Huh, it doesn't list anything when I search either | 03:08 |
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| mozammel | my Kmail cant give email suggestion, big pain. using KDE 5.8.5, Kubuntu , any help please.. | 04:56 |
| akik | i'd like to have "umount usb device" instead of "safely remove device" in kubuntu 14.04. is this possible? | 08:33 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 08:38 |
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| kcroot_ | hi day | 09:03 |
| lordievader | o/ | 09:14 |
| Mrokii | Hello. Is there any chance that KDE 5.9 will be installable on Kubuntu 16.10 or will we have to wait for 17.04 or something? | 09:15 |
| moofang | hi. is there a way I can get the PIM events calendar plugin for the calendar plasmoid? I recently went up to Plasma 5.8 and still don't seem to have it - just holidays | 10:04 |
| jubo2 | I need printer that will work with Kubuntu | 10:12 |
| jubo2 | So do I need Postscript or what's the deal these days? | 10:13 |
| akik | jubo2: just check whether the printer manufacturer provides linux support for the printer (ppd files to be used with cups) | 10:31 |
| akik | ps/pcl5/pcl6 i think all good | 10:31 |
| jubo2 | akik: Ok saved info. Thank you. | 10:41 |
| BluesKaj | HI folks | 10:54 |
| jubo2 | hiya BluesKaj | 10:54 |
| BluesKaj | hey jubo2 | 10:54 |
| Bullebak | Hi There. I am trying to install Kubuntu 16.10 on VirtualBox in Windows10. I downloaded the .iso and created VirtualBox. It boots and loads the K Desktop screen, but as soon as the loading bar completes, the screen fades to black and all I can see is the mouse cursor. Please help! I am getting no joy from searching on Google. | 12:26 |
| Bullebak | Hi There. I am trying to install Kubuntu 16.10 on VirtualBox in Windows10. I downloaded the .iso and created VirtualBox. It boots and loads the K Desktop screen, but as soon as the loading bar completes, the screen fades to black and all I can see is the mouse cursor. Please help! I am getting no joy from searching on Google. | 12:34 |
| BluesKaj | Bullebak, best to ask in #vbox chat | 12:39 |
| user|77448 | would it be appropriate to run kubuntu in virtualbox? | 12:42 |
| user|77448 | I apologise for the crude question | 12:43 |
| Bullebak | Done it all my life so far. Just this latest version 16 giving me all my hell | 12:43 |
| user|77448 | it's just that virtualbox limits the graphics memory to 128MB | 12:43 |
| user|77448 | and KDE looks a bit heavy, graphic wise | 12:43 |
| user|77448 | .. maybe I should go for MATE flavour | 12:44 |
| user|77448 | or even Lubuntu | 12:44 |
| Bullebak | Mmmmm, now you might have a point. Going to push that up. Do not think it is set to 128MB in the first place! | 12:44 |
| user|77448 | lol | 12:45 |
| lordievader | Heard more people with vbox + latest Kubuntu trouble. | 12:45 |
| akik | Bullebak: you can make it go up to 256 | 12:45 |
| lordievader | In the sameway Bullebak does. | 12:45 |
| BluesKaj | my understnding is that one can set graphics memory to as mucj as the RAM can handle | 12:45 |
| akik | Bullebak: VBoxManage modifyvm "Name of VM" --vram 256 | 12:46 |
| user|77448 | how do you make virtualbox graphic memory run up to 256? afaik it's only possible if the vm is a Windows one | 12:46 |
| mparillo | if you find a solution (or work-around), could you add it to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/1627348 | 12:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1627348 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu Yakkety Live DVD boots to black screen with mouse pointer" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 12:47 |
| mparillo | I think the original bug report was on real HW, but I can only replicate the bug in VirtualBox. | 12:48 |
| Bullebak | No joy. Pushing up video memory did not make a difference. I am trying to install it and I do not even get to a screen that says "Try Kubuntu" or "Install Kubuntu" | 12:50 |
| BluesKaj | guess I was out to lunch on the vb virt memory :-) | 12:51 |
| Bullebak | Thanks ubottu, I am trying to read on Launchpad now... | 12:53 |
| akik | Bullebak: did you enable 3d acceleration? | 12:54 |
| mparillo | Bullebak: I have found that I can get to the installer anyway. Just hit <alt> <F1> to bring up the kicker application launcher. Then start typing install, and you will see the install program. | 12:55 |
| BluesKaj | the windows key works as well | 12:56 |
| daum | hi guys just upgraded my kubuntu 14 (just regular package upgrades) and now when I go to login it accpets my password and then just hangs any ideas? | 12:59 |
| BluesKaj | daum, how did you upgrade? | 13:00 |
| daum | BluesKaj, apt-get upgrade | 13:00 |
| BluesKaj | from ? | 13:00 |
| daum | command line | 13:00 |
| daum | then the notifier came that system reboot was required to complete | 13:01 |
| daum | so I did that it gets to the login screen, takes my password, then just hangs after it clears out the different users to choose from for login | 13:01 |
| BluesKaj | oh regular package upgrade., ok | 13:01 |
| daum | yeah - wasn't a core version bump | 13:02 |
| BluesKaj | did you try ther recovery kernel in grub then dpkg repair | 13:02 |
| daum | i can get to the command line and login fine - what package should i repair though? | 13:03 |
| BluesKaj | just try another update/upgrade, however it could be your graphics driver isn't working | 13:04 |
| daum | i do see in /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log a "Type error: result of expressoin 'button' [null] is not an object" looks like it's coming from /usr/share/kde4/apps/lightdm-kde-greeter/themese/userbar/ListButton.qml:31 | 13:04 |
| daum | running another upgrade | 13:05 |
| Bullebak | My goodness! Akik, thanks the 3D excelleration worked and it now boots, however, I still get no option like at http://docs.kubuntu.org/docs/installation.html#install-process | 13:07 |
| daum | BluesKaj, nope no luck=\ | 13:07 |
| Bullebak | I mean that it does not offer me the option to install. It just boots up as a live CD | 13:07 |
| BluesKaj | daum, in the VT/TTY try startx | 13:07 |
| daum | i do see also Bus::open: Cannot get ibus-daemons address | 13:08 |
| daum | BluesKaj, hm no luck it goes to black screen when i do that | 13:08 |
| Bullebak | I now saw mpatillo's comment. Will try that thanks... | 13:09 |
| BluesKaj | daum, which gpu? | 13:09 |
| daum | last few lines areLoading extension GLX, Kernel modesetting enabled, AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch | 13:09 |
| daum | looking one sec | 13:09 |
| BluesKaj | daum, are you using lightdm ? recommend kdm for kde/kubuntu | 13:10 |
| daum | BluesKaj, radeon 6750 | 13:10 |
| daum | BluesKaj, i believe so - it just was the default one when i installed? | 13:11 |
| akik | Bullebak: good. i think it's a bit sad that everything starts to require 3d acceleration | 13:11 |
| BluesKaj | daum, wonder if your driver was borked , try installing xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu or was your driver the radeon ? | 13:15 |
| lordievader | daum: You can login through a tty? | 13:15 |
| daum | looks like i had the xserver-xorg-video-radeon before | 13:15 |
| BluesKaj | he's already there | 13:15 |
| lordievader | daum: If so, is the file system for /home full? | 13:16 |
| daum | yep lordievader i cna ... also xinit works get a termianl on screen | 13:16 |
| daum | lordievader, nope 80% | 13:16 |
| daum | startx still produces just blank black screen | 13:16 |
| lordievader | daum: Hmm, you could see if a fresh user has the same troubles. | 13:16 |
| BluesKaj | daum, then try reinstalling the radeon again | 13:16 |
| BluesKaj | and dkms | 13:16 |
| lordievader | That way you know if it is your user profile or the system itself. | 13:16 |
| daum | BluesKaj, would dpkg-reconfigure be enough on those? | 13:17 |
| daum | lordievader, will create new user real quick now as a test | 13:17 |
| BluesKaj | daum, dunno seldom use reconfigure | 13:18 |
| daum | BluesKaj, so you suggest uninstall then reinstall both? | 13:18 |
| BluesKaj | no just install them | 13:19 |
| daum | apt-get just says they are already installed and at latest version | 13:19 |
| daum | ah nevermind found the --reinstall | 13:21 |
| daum | BluesKaj, no luck=( | 13:25 |
| daum | BluesKaj, here is my xession-errors log: http://dpaste.com/3AV61BD | 13:26 |
| BuryTheHatchet | Greetings! I wonder if you could help me with a little problem. Over the last couple of days, my friend's 16.04 version Kubuntu has had a lot of upgrades. The ones that came through yesterday, killed his install. | 13:27 |
| lordievader | daum: Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-daum" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. | 13:27 |
| lordievader | daum: Did you run gui programs through sudo? | 13:28 |
| BuryTheHatchet | I've had to take him back to 14.04 from a USB stick, because the other install was unrecoverable. There was a kernel panic which I witnessed in the terminal, but couldn't record it as nothing would work and we couldn't log in. | 13:28 |
| daum | lordievader, i shouldn't have not that i can think of aside from the sometimes kdesu kate (to edit a few root files) | 13:28 |
| lordievader | daum: sudo chown daum:daum /var/tmp/kdecache-daum | 13:28 |
| daum | though, actually i wonder if yesterday i totally botched a command and ran rm /var/cache/ -rf | 13:29 |
| daum | didn't even think of this til just now | 13:29 |
| daum | when i meant to run rm var/cache -rf for an application ...i wonder if that caused some weirdness now | 13:29 |
| BuryTheHatchet | The problem we have now is that I smell a kernel bug in the latest version, but he's getting told there is a new version available, and I daren't take him up to 16.04 in case the panic resurfaces. | 13:29 |
| lordievader | daum: There is lightdm stuff in /var/cache: sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm | 13:30 |
| daum | lordievader, tried - no luck | 13:31 |
| daum | shouldn't startx not require anything from lightdm | 13:31 |
| lordievader | True | 13:33 |
| BluesKaj | what about kdm ? | 13:33 |
| lordievader | You are running startx right? Do you have 'startkde' (or startplasma whatever it is these days) in your xinitrc? | 13:34 |
| daum | lordievader, where would that file be? | 13:35 |
| lordievader | daum: In your homedir ~/.xinitrc | 13:36 |
| daum | hm don't have anything there=\ | 13:36 |
| daum | BluesKaj, also just installed kdm rebooting to give 'er a try too | 13:36 |
| BluesKaj | sudo dpkg - reconfigure kdm | 13:36 |
| daum | BluesKaj, it goes to a black screen after login | 13:37 |
| lordievader | daum: Add: exec startkde | 13:37 |
| lordievader | Then run startx as daum. | 13:38 |
| daum | "exec startkde not found" | 13:38 |
| lordievader | Does 'startkde' exist on your system? | 13:38 |
| daum | nope | 13:39 |
| daum | i swear i didn't just delete /usr/bin/ stuff haha | 13:39 |
| lordievader | Ah, that might be the problem. You are running trusty right? | 13:39 |
| daum | yeah | 13:40 |
| lordievader | Probably easiest to do: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop | 13:40 |
| daum | 14.04.5 | 13:40 |
| lordievader | !info kde-meta trusty | 13:40 |
| ubottu | Package kde-meta does not exist in trusty | 13:40 |
| lordievader | Hmm, forgot how the kde/plasma meta package for Trusty was called. | 13:40 |
| lordievader | !info startkde | 13:40 |
| ubottu | Package startkde does not exist in yakkety | 13:41 |
| lordievader | Hmm -.- | 13:41 |
| daum | lordievader, http://dpaste.com/0ADQT3P from the install kubuntu-deskto | 13:42 |
| lordievader | Ooee, interesting. | 13:42 |
| lordievader | daum: Any ppa's enabled? | 13:43 |
| daum | yah a java and php one | 13:43 |
| lordievader | Hmm, that shouldn't matter. | 13:43 |
| lordievader | Can you (re)install the plasma-desktop one? | 13:43 |
| daum | which? | 13:44 |
| daum | i could do a dist upgrade | 13:44 |
| daum | haha | 13:44 |
| daum | will that may work? | 13:44 |
| BluesKaj | workspace most likely | 13:44 |
| daum | BluesKaj, hm/ | 13:45 |
| BluesKaj | kde or plasma workspace | 13:45 |
| BluesKaj | forgotten , which it is on kde4 | 13:46 |
| lordievader | daum: Make sure the plasma-desktop package is installed. | 13:46 |
| daum | hm well i'm happy to upgrade to kubuntu 16 | 13:46 |
| daum | lordievader, kde-workplace-bin is installed not plasma-desktop | 13:47 |
| lordievader | daum: So install plasma-desktop ;) | 13:47 |
| daum | it won't let me=( | 13:47 |
| lordievader | daum: Please paste the output. | 13:48 |
| BluesKaj | kubuntu-desktop then | 13:48 |
| daum | http://dpaste.com/10XEEYB | 13:48 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: One at a time, kubuntu-desktop depends on plasma-desktop anyways. | 13:48 |
| BluesKaj | or vice-versa | 13:49 |
| lordievader | daum: Okay, this is going to be tedious, but everytime it tells you of a package, in this case 'plasma-widgets-workspace', try to install it manually. | 13:49 |
| lordievader | daum: Ultimately you will find one dependency which refuses to be installed. Most likely due to a version mismatch. | 13:50 |
| daum | ha this can quickly go down a rabbit hole the next one has 3 depends | 13:50 |
| lordievader | That is what I meant with tedious ;) | 13:51 |
| daum | weird | 13:51 |
| daum | http://dpaste.com/3EDB3JJ | 13:51 |
| BluesKaj | daum, yes I found if you choose the last dependency in the list the rest fasll in line, not always, but mostly | 13:51 |
| daum | shouldn't that progression not have results in an install? | 13:52 |
| daum | sorry, resulted in an install | 13:52 |
| lordievader | daum: Seems like you can backtrack ;) | 13:53 |
| lordievader | Unles kdepim-runtime still complains... | 13:53 |
| daum | yep that installed | 13:54 |
| daum | woo plasma workspace installed | 13:54 |
| daum | and startkde is there | 13:54 |
| lordievader | daum: And plasma-desktop? | 13:54 |
| daum | we're cooking! | 13:54 |
| daum | and we're back | 13:54 |
| BluesKaj | :-) | 13:54 |
| daum | so any ideas why it couldn't just run that install itself? | 13:55 |
| BluesKaj | depenency order | 13:55 |
| BluesKaj | dependency even | 13:56 |
| lordievader | daum: Good question. | 13:56 |
| daum | well eitherway thank you very much for the help | 13:56 |
| lordievader | daum: No problem ;) | 13:56 |
| daum | weird | 13:56 |
| lordievader | Glad it works again. | 13:57 |
| daum | that deleted my mysql server | 13:57 |
| lordievader | In favor of maria-db? | 13:57 |
| daum | hmm not sure - right now no mysql is running it seems | 13:57 |
| daum | well whatever i'll deal with this later should probably get to work | 13:57 |
| lordievader | It installed mariadb-server-core, mariadb is a drop-in replacement for mysql. | 13:57 |
| daum | i'll also do a dist-upgrade tomorrow and hopeuflly some of this resolves itself haha | 13:58 |
| daum | yah it was that akondai backend i think required some other version of mysql that wasn't 5.6 which i had instlaled | 13:58 |
| BluesKaj | daum, if you want to upgrade to 16.04 , sudo do-release-upgrade is now the command | 13:59 |
| daum | oh yah it switched it out for maria which for some reason ins't starting | 13:59 |
| lordievader | daum: Oh, any error in the logs? | 13:59 |
| daum | yeah - seems to think the logfile is corrupted http://dpaste.com/2TW4HA8 | 14:00 |
| daum | looks like some people say to remove that file after switching over and it'll work | 14:04 |
| daum | will try that afte ri backup the directory | 14:04 |
| daum | thanks again for all the help guys! | 14:04 |
| BluesKaj | daum, yw | 14:05 |
| BuryTheHatchet | Sorry guys, I'm gonna have to fly. I'll have to come back to you later when I get the chance to sort this out. See ya. | 14:11 |
| Reni3 | hello | 16:01 |
| Reni3 | i am just on my android tablet so I can only type slowly | 16:02 |
| Reni3 | my kubuntu has a problem | 16:02 |
| Reni3 | it boots into initrms | 16:02 |
| Reni3 | busybox | 16:03 |
| Reni3 | I tried to run fsck but it did not work because the hard drive was mounted | 16:03 |
| Reni3 | i went to a call shop and burned a kubuntu 16.10 desktop DVD | 16:03 |
| Reni3 | normally there should be a menu when starting from DVD where I can select to repair the system | 16:04 |
| Reni3 | unfortunately I do not get such a menu | 16:04 |
| Reni3 | my kubuntu live dvd starts into the live system | 16:04 |
| BluesKaj | run e2fsck /dev/sdX , X being sda or whatever the deive is named | 16:05 |
| Reni3 | when I then try to run fsck I receive the message that the drive was in use | 16:05 |
| Reni3 | BluesKay ok please do not walk away I try it | 16:05 |
| Reni3 | sorry I am typing really slow from my tablet | 16:05 |
| BluesKaj | np, take your time | 16:06 |
| Reni3 | damn I am so stupid, i have a lice cd running | 16:06 |
| Reni3 | wait I can reconnect from my PC | 16:06 |
| momken | Hello | 16:06 |
| Reni3 | BluesKaj please wait for 2 minutes I reconnect | 16:07 |
| momken | Did anybody install ttf-mscorefonts-installer? | 16:07 |
| momken | I think after its installation my fonts in firefox has changed to bad fonts | 16:07 |
| momken | Specially for Farsi letters | 16:07 |
| === Reni3 is now known as Reni3_ | ||
| Reni3_ | re | 16:11 |
| Reni3_ | now I am connected using the live cd | 16:11 |
| BluesKaj | momken, only if you're using default in system settings>application style>Gnome application>GTK themes>Font | 16:11 |
| BluesKaj | choose a font there that works well and is readable in Firefox. momken | 16:12 |
| Reni3_ | I am starting firefox so I can paste the output | 16:12 |
| Reni3_ | BluesKaj: https://dpaste.de/2i8N/raw | 16:14 |
| BluesKaj | momken, firefox links to GTK settings for fonts | 16:14 |
| Reni3_ | BluesKaj: https://dpaste.de/7TO9/raw | 16:14 |
| BluesKaj | Reni3_,umount /dev/sdb , then run e2fsck dev/sdb again | 16:15 |
| BluesKaj | err /dev/sdb | 16:15 |
| Reni3_ | that is what I tried / second paste shows the output | 16:16 |
| BluesKaj | if there's a problem e2fsck will ask you if you want to fix | 16:17 |
| Reni3_ | I figured it is /dev/sdb2 | 16:17 |
| Reni3_ | Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type | 16:17 |
| Reni3_ | /dev/sdb1 2048 15812607 15810560 7.6G 82 Linux swap / Solaris | 16:17 |
| Reni3_ | /dev/sdb2 * 15812608 976771071 960958464 458.2G 83 Linux | 16:17 |
| BluesKaj | ru df -h to see which one | 16:17 |
| Reni3_ | BluesKaj: there is an even bigger problem | 16:17 |
| Reni3_ | e2fsck says everything was okaz | 16:18 |
| Reni3_ | okay | 16:18 |
| Reni3_ | root@kubuntu:/home/kubuntu# e2fsck /dev/sdb2 | 16:18 |
| Reni3_ | e2fsck 1.43.3 (04-Sep-2016) | 16:18 |
| Reni3_ | /dev/sdb2: clean, 1701729/30031872 files, 28822136/120119808 blocks | 16:18 |
| Reni3_ | Here is an what fsck does> | 16:21 |
| Reni3_ | https://dpaste.de/QTF3/raw | 16:21 |
| BluesKaj | oops my vpn disconnected | 16:22 |
| lordievader | Reni3_: What does the system say when it drops you in the busybox? | 16:23 |
| Reni3_ | lordievader: not all too much, I get a line that says initrms or something like this | 16:23 |
| Reni3_ | I am just on the live cd so I am not totally sure | 16:24 |
| BluesKaj | initramfs | 16:24 |
| Reni3_ | yes, that | 16:24 |
| Reni3_ | I always got a kernel panic when I typed exit | 16:24 |
| lordievader | Reni3_: You can access the root filesystem just fine from the live-cd? | 16:24 |
| momken_ | BluesKaj: After disabling the option in Firefox->Preferences->Content->Fonts&Colors->Advanced to "Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of my selections above" it became as before | 16:25 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, I had the same problem with 16.10 dual booting with windows 7 , must be a bug in grub | 16:25 |
| Reni3_ | lordievader: I did not check that yet | 16:25 |
| Reni3_ | lordievader: I am just running fsck.ext4 -c /dev/sdb2 | 16:25 |
| Reni3_ | after this has finished, I can try to mount it | 16:25 |
| momken_ | BluesKaj: It seems that many sites (like twitter) uses Microsoft fonts by default which can't be rendered properly in Kubuntu | 16:25 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: No, this can have many different causes. | 16:26 |
| lordievader | Reni3_: Please do. | 16:26 |
| Reni3_ | lordievader: while fsck.ext4 -c /dev/sdb2 is running_ | 16:26 |
| Reni3_ | ? | 16:26 |
| BluesKaj | momken_, use the gtk font option as I mentioned if you're not happy witht hdefault | 16:27 |
| lordievader | Haha, no, after. Reni3_ | 16:27 |
| Reni3_ | I am not used to this english keyboard | 16:27 |
| Reni3_ | lordievader: ok, the test is at 4,67 % | 16:27 |
| Reni3_ | I guess it will take 25 minutes | 16:27 |
| Reni3_ | is this okay for you or do you want me to interrupt it? | 16:27 |
| lordievader | Let it run, not sure if I will still be here 25 min later, but I'm sure others here can help you out. | 16:28 |
| momken_ | BluesKaj: that is not changed and I guess it will not affect anything, because twitter chooses Arial (or other MS font) if available | 16:28 |
| lordievader | See if you can mount it, if you can and still get into the busybox please make a screenshot of it. | 16:28 |
| Reni3_ | lordievader: I just realized it would take too long | 16:28 |
| Reni3_ | 5% needed 7 minutes | 16:29 |
| Reni3_ | so 100% would need 140 minutes | 16:29 |
| Reni3_ | I interrupt it | 16:29 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, busybox to initrams also mucked up my laptop bootup | 16:29 |
| BluesKaj | on 16.;10 | 16:29 |
| Reni3_ | yes I can access my harddrive | 16:30 |
| BluesKaj | and 17.04 | 16:30 |
| Reni3_ | lordievader: I mounted my hard drive | 16:30 |
| Reni3_ | what now? | 16:30 |
| lordievader | Reni3_: You have access to the systemfiles? | 16:31 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: Busybox is meant to troubleshoot the failed boot. Instead of just not booting it gives you a (minimal) shell to find out why it did not boot correctly. | 16:31 |
| Reni3_ | lordievader: yes I have access to all system files | 16:32 |
| lordievader | Reni3_: Okay, good. Reboot I guess. | 16:32 |
| Reni3_ | shall I chroot into the system? | 16:32 |
| Reni3_ | when I reboot now, it will take a long time until I can be here again because my computer is slow | 16:32 |
| lordievader | Reni3_: Without any real clue on what the problem is... doesn't sound like the best idea. | 16:33 |
| Reni3_ | ok then I try to reboot | 16:33 |
| BluesKaj | yes anfd I fixed it with e2fsck 3 times on my laptop after booting fro windows to kubuntu | 16:33 |
| Reni3_ | thank you lordievader and BluesKaj | 16:33 |
| Reni3_ | one last question | 16:34 |
| Reni3_ | can I boot into a command line faster with the kubuntu live cd or do I have to boot it into the graphical KDE envoironment_ | 16:34 |
| Reni3_ | ? | 16:34 |
| Reni3_ | this english keyboard drives me nuts | 16:34 |
| lordievader | Reni3_: Add | 16:36 |
| lordievader | 'text' to the kernel parameters. | 16:36 |
| lordievader | That will disable the boot to a GUI, won't matter much, just a little. | 16:36 |
| Reni3_ | where? | 16:37 |
| Reni3_ | it booted graphically right away without giving me grub | 16:37 |
| lordievader | Hold shift ;) | 16:37 |
| Reni3_ | ok | 16:38 |
| Reni3_ | lordievader: I have an important update | 16:38 |
| Reni3_ | I ran> | 16:38 |
| Reni3_ | umount /dev/sdb2 | 16:38 |
| Reni3_ | then I ran again: fsck.ext4 -f /dev/sdb2 | 16:38 |
| Reni3_ | and now I get many errors | 16:38 |
| Reni3_ | errors that were not there before | 16:38 |
| lordievader | Reni3_: sdb is the drive where the rootfs resides on? | 16:38 |
| BluesKaj | yup, had the3same thing | 16:39 |
| BluesKaj | errors on / and /home partitions | 16:39 |
| Reni3_ | https://dpaste.de/nWR4/raw | 16:39 |
| Reni3_ | is this now fixed_ | 16:39 |
| Reni3_ | ? | 16:39 |
| lordievader | Reni3_: Could you install 'smartmontools' and run 'sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb'? | 16:39 |
| Reni3_ | yes | 16:40 |
| BluesKaj | i won't see any errors | 16:40 |
| Reni3_ | give me a moment I need to figure out if that works on the live cd | 16:40 |
| Reni3_ | thank you for you help | 16:40 |
| Reni3_ | lordievader: installed | 16:42 |
| Reni3_ | sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb or sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb2 ? | 16:42 |
| lordievader | /dev/sdb | 16:43 |
| lordievader | smartctl is a tool which reads smart values of a disk, not a partition. | 16:43 |
| Reni3_ | lordievader: https://dpaste.de/WJwB/raw | 16:44 |
| lordievader | Reni3_: Luckily no reallocated sectors, but quite a few pending sectors (464). I'd replace the drive. Or at least make a backup. | 16:45 |
| Reni3_ | lordievader: Do you think I can work with that drive for the next 4 days until my project is finished, or could it break at any time? | 16:46 |
| lordievader | Reni3_: Nah, it should work. But it will only get worse from here on out. | 16:47 |
| lordievader | Anyhow, reboot and see if you can boot into your os. | 16:47 |
| Reni3_ | ok | 16:47 |
| Reni3_ | thank you!!!! | 16:47 |
| Reni3_ | see you soon I give you feedback | 16:47 |
| Reni3 | re | 16:53 |
| Reni3 | i am on my tablet again | 16:53 |
| lordievader | o/ | 16:53 |
| Reni3 | initramfs when booting again | 16:53 |
| Reni3 | what now? | 16:53 |
| Reni3 | I can type into initramfs whatever you say | 16:54 |
| Reni3 | I can only not paste from there | 16:54 |
| Reni3 | but I can write you from my tablet what happens | 16:54 |
| lordievader | Does your tablet have a camera? | 16:54 |
| Reni3 | yes | 16:55 |
| lordievader | Can you make a screenshot? | 16:55 |
| lordievader | !screenshot | 16:55 |
| ubottu | Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imgur.com/ and link the created page here. | 16:55 |
| Reni3 | yes | 16:55 |
| Reni3 | maybe there is a misunderstanding | 16:55 |
| Reni3 | my tablet runs android and works perfectly | 16:55 |
| Reni3 | my laptop is busted | 16:56 |
| Reni3 | so I am now typing on my tablet because i have no other pc | 16:56 |
| lordievader | Reni3: Yes, I know. | 16:56 |
| Reni3 | I can take a photo and upload it | 16:56 |
| lordievader | And I'd like to see what the laptop shows. | 16:56 |
| Reni3 | PrtScr won't work | 16:56 |
| lordievader | Take the term screenshot a bit broader ;) | 16:56 |
| Reni3 | yes I can take a photo | 16:57 |
| Reni3 | https://filebin.net/re4jxbqekrzlyofe/20170224_175808.jpg | 16:59 |
| lordievader | Ah, very informative indeed :( | 16:59 |
| lordievader | Is lsblk available? And if so, does it list your drive? | 16:59 |
| Reni3 | lsblk is not available | 17:00 |
| Reni3 | did I type it correctly? | 17:00 |
| Reni3 | lsblk | 17:00 |
| BluesKaj | smart didn't find anything wrong on my hdds after the intramfs/busybox, on both my pc and laptop, so i installed the 17.04 beta1 ..no more busybox . and i put neon-kde on my laptop , no more busy box | 17:00 |
| Reni3 | I wrote exit and hit enter | 17:01 |
| Reni3 | now I have a kernel panic | 17:02 |
| lordievader | Reni3: Yeah, don't do that. | 17:02 |
| lordievader | Reni3: Rather run 'ls /dev' and see if there is an sda in there. | 17:03 |
| Reni3 | the shops close in 1 hour - should I get a new hard drive and install a new kubuntu? | 17:03 |
| lordievader | Reni3: That is the easy way out ;) | 17:03 |
| Reni3 | is it 100% sure that it is the hard drive? | 17:03 |
| Reni3 | and not something else | 17:04 |
| lordievader | In this case it is something else. But the drive is dying. | 17:04 |
| lordievader | 'blkid' should be available. | 17:04 |
| Reni3 | how can you know it is dying? | 17:04 |
| lordievader | Reni3: Smart told be. | 17:04 |
| lordievader | me* | 17:05 |
| Reni3 | ok | 17:05 |
| Reni3 | blkid is available | 17:05 |
| lordievader | Pending sectors and reallocated sectors are sign's of dying disks. | 17:05 |
| Reni3 | maybe i mistaped it | 17:05 |
| lordievader | Reni3: No, blkid and lsblk are different commands ;) Anyhow, does blkid show your disk? | 17:05 |
| Reni3 | https://filebin.net/re4jxbqekrzlyofe/20170224_180548.jpg | 17:06 |
| lordievader | Reni3: What is the output of 'ls /'? | 17:08 |
| Reni3 | when I reinstall kubuntu - is 16.10 okay? because BluesKay said 17.04 solved it for him | 17:08 |
| Reni3 | ls -l shows me my / directory | 17:08 |
| lordievader | Reni3: I know, the root of the initramfs. I'd want to know where it expects the sysroot to be mounted. | 17:09 |
| BluesKaj | 17.04 beta1 , is a devel OS , Reni3 , it's not stable , but there no disk erroes | 17:10 |
| Reni3 | https://filebin.net/re4jxbqekrzlyofe/20170224_181105.jpg | 17:12 |
| Reni3 | I am going to buy a new hard drive | 17:12 |
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| Reni3 | BluesKaj if I install 16.10 on a new hard drive, will i get errors again then? | 17:13 |
| lordievader | Reni3: You could try mounting the root-fs to /root and then running: exec switch_root -c /dev/console /root /sbin/init | 17:13 |
| Reni3 | ho can i mount the root fs to /root? | 17:14 |
| Reni3 | how | 17:14 |
| Reni3 | i must leave really soon if i want to get an hard drive today, the stores close in 45 minutes | 17:15 |
| lordievader | mount /dev/sda2 /root | 17:15 |
| lordievader | Then go, this can be done later too ;) | 17:15 |
| Reni3 | ok i run | 17:16 |
| Reni3 | lordievader and bluesKaj THANK YOU | 17:17 |
| Reni3 | sorry that I leave but a new hard drive seems to be the best choice to save my working night | 17:17 |
| Reni3 | I messsage you when all is safe and sound again | 17:18 |
| Reni3 | have a great day! | 17:18 |
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| BluesKaj | I'm still skeptical , but if you believe the smartmontools then it's your call | 17:19 |
| lordievader | I'd rather loose some money than loose data. | 17:22 |
| BluesKaj | loose data, better tighten it down so you don't lose it :-) | 17:24 |
| BluesKaj | same for your money | 17:24 |
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| lordievader | Oh, whoops. | 17:26 |
| === KindThree is now known as pavlushka | ||
| === forest is now known as klinec | ||
| === forest is now known as klinec | ||
| sepson | Bonsoir | 18:10 |
| BluesKaj | Hi sep | 18:11 |
| BluesKaj | sepson ;-) | 18:11 |
| sepson | j aimerais savoir si sous Ubuntu il est possible d installer Open ? | 18:11 |
| BluesKaj | !fr | sepson | 18:13 |
| ubottu | sepson: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. | 18:13 |
| sepson__ | ou PPTP/isec | 18:15 |
| BluesKaj | openvpn , yes | 18:15 |
| === sepson__ is now known as sepson_ | ||
| sepson_ | Depuis un NAS Qnap ? | 18:15 |
| BluesKaj | pptp is not secure, and it's old | 18:16 |
| BluesKaj | Qnap? | 18:16 |
| sepson_ | Nas Qnap | 18:16 |
| sepson_ | j'aimerais me connecter de mon ordinateur sur mon NAS en openvpn | 18:17 |
| BluesKaj | sepson_, reagarde, ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. | 18:18 |
| sepson_ | ok merci desolé :-( | 18:18 |
| Reni3 | re | 19:17 |
| Reni3 | I just finished installing Kubuntu 16.10 on a brand new hard drive as my old one was kind of dying | 19:19 |
| Reni3 | now I got 2 problems: | 19:19 |
| Reni3 | 1) my WIFI worked during the installation. Now, _after_ the installation has finished and after I booted into the real system, WIFI does not work any more. The "Connect" button is inactive. | 19:19 |
| Reni3 | 2) my USB mouse does not work. | 19:20 |
| Reni3 | these 2 problems bug me | 19:20 |
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| === Guest88002 is now known as papa_ | ||
| === papa_ is now known as Guest88002 | ||
| lordievader | Reni3: What is the output of 'sudo rfkill list'? | 20:06 |
| Reni3 | lordievader! | 20:06 |
| Reni3 | nice to see you again! | 20:06 |
| lordievader | o/ | 20:06 |
| Reni3 | 0: phy0: Wireless LAN | 20:07 |
| Reni3 | Soft blocked: no | 20:07 |
| Reni3 | Hard blocked: no | 20:07 |
| Reni3 | lordievader, you should know, that I ran "rfkill unblock wifi" just 1 minute ago | 20:07 |
| lordievader | So it does detect it... What is the actual problem? | 20:07 |
| lordievader | Right ;) | 20:07 |
| Reni3 | lordievader, the problem is, that when I click the WIFI icon at the right bottom side of my screen (next to the clock) I cannot connect | 20:08 |
| Reni3 | let me explain that a little better: | 20:08 |
| Reni3 | Right Click => Configure Network Connections => | 20:08 |
| Reni3 | Then I click on the Connection which is already listed there as I was connected to my WIFI during the installation | 20:08 |
| Reni3 | but the [CONNECT] button remains inactive (not clickable) | 20:09 |
| sintre | remove the listing | 20:09 |
| lordievader | Reni3: What does journalctl show during connecting? | 20:09 |
| Reni3 | I also ran: | 20:09 |
| Reni3 | sudo ubuntu-drivers list | 20:09 |
| sintre | then try again to have it search for your wifi | 20:09 |
| Reni3 | sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall | 20:09 |
| Reni3 | sudo ubuntu-drivers devices | 20:09 |
| Reni3 | lordievader, journalctl gives an extreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemly large output that does not seem to end | 20:10 |
| Reni3 | sintre, I feel like that does not work | 20:10 |
| sintre | did you try it? | 20:10 |
| Reni3 | yes | 20:10 |
| Reni3 | maybe I am looking at the wrong plac | 20:11 |
| sintre | then it didn't work | 20:11 |
| lordievader | Reni3: No, it is the systemlogger, I only want the stuff related to NetworkManager. | 20:11 |
| * Reni3 has a look at ifconfig | 20:11 | |
| sintre | if this is a new install , maybe it would be best to start over , when installing DON'T select install updates when installing and connect | 20:12 |
| sintre | that seems to be root of problem | 20:12 |
| Reni3 | https://dpaste.de/yWhB/raw | 20:12 |
| Reni3 | you really want me to reinstall that all?! | 20:13 |
| lordievader | Reni3: PLease do pastebin an excerpt of journalctl. | 20:13 |
| Reni3 | ok lordievader | 20:13 |
| Reni3 | I cannot get the whole output | 20:14 |
| sintre | Reni3> well could be better use of time , than going in circles , and if after it doesn't work we know to look at probally driver issues | 20:14 |
| Reni3 | I must press ENTER to see more | 20:14 |
| Reni3 | and then I press enter enter enter all the time, and at the end, the first lines are gone | 20:14 |
| lordievader | Reni3: run 'sudo journalctl -f' then connect, select the NM stuff and pastebin that. | 20:14 |
| Reni3 | I am just pastebinning the first | 20:15 |
| Reni3 | https://dpaste.de/Enwh/raw | 20:15 |
| Reni3 | here is the smaller output | 20:16 |
| Reni3 | https://dpaste.de/z0bZ/raw | 20:16 |
| lordievader | During that second paste did you try to connect? | 20:17 |
| Reni3 | no my connect button is disabled!! | 20:17 |
| Reni3 | it's greyed out | 20:17 |
| Reni3 | I cannot click it | 20:17 |
| Reni3 | can I connect via command line? | 20:17 |
| lordievader | Check 'sudo rfkill list' output again. | 20:18 |
| Reni3 | 0: phy0: Wireless LAN | 20:18 |
| Reni3 | Soft blocked: no | 20:19 |
| Reni3 | Hard blocked: no | 20:19 |
| lordievader | Wut? | 20:19 |
| Reni3 | lordievader, erm... maybe I should tell you more at this point: | 20:19 |
| Reni3 | as I could not connect via WIFI, I took my tablet (which is connected to my WIFI) | 20:19 |
| Reni3 | and I connected my tablet to my Laptop via USB | 20:19 |
| Reni3 | then I used the USB tethering to bring my Laptop online | 20:20 |
| Reni3 | so basically my laptop thinks it was connected to the internet via LAN | 20:20 |
| Reni3 | in reality it's more like this: | 20:20 |
| lordievader | Reni3: So? That should not matter. | 20:20 |
| Reni3 | (Internet) => (WLAN-Router) => (Tablet) => via USB => to Laptop | 20:20 |
| lordievader | Reni3: Could you make a screenshot of your NM wiget | 20:21 |
| lordievader | widget* | 20:21 |
| Reni3 | NM widget? | 20:22 |
| Reni3 | what is that? | 20:22 |
| Reni3 | the thing next to the clock which I try to connect with? | 20:22 |
| sintre | http://imgur.com/ | 20:22 |
| lordievader | Yeah, the thing where you connect to wireless networks, etc. | 20:22 |
| Reni3 | yes hold on | 20:22 |
| sintre | right click on the network icon bottom right of screen and open the configuration up | 20:22 |
| sintre | hit prnt screen key and picture should be inside picture folder | 20:22 |
| Reni3 | yes - 1 moment please | 20:23 |
| Reni3 | it saved the screenshot but I do not know where | 20:23 |
| lordievader | Probably in ~/Pictures | 20:24 |
| sintre | open dolphin | 20:24 |
| lordievader | '~' being your homedir ;) | 20:24 |
| Reni3 | found it | 20:24 |
| Reni3 | kde4 is really complicated ^.^ | 20:24 |
| lordievader | 16.10 has plasma5, right? | 20:24 |
| Reni3 | no idea | 20:25 |
| lordievader | Doesn't matter ;) | 20:25 |
| Reni3 | I just switched to KDE 4 from KDE 3 | 20:25 |
| Reni3 | https://filebin.net/0p79p17nh563wasc/Screenshot_20170224_212418.png | 20:26 |
| Reni3 | https://filebin.net/0p79p17nh563wasc/Screenshot_20170224_212605.png | 20:27 |
| Reni3 | the first screenshot looks weird | 20:27 |
| lordievader | Does your laptop have those wifi-or-lan switches? A bios switch which allows only one to operate at a time? | 20:28 |
| Reni3 | actually I do not think so | 20:28 |
| Reni3 | my wifi always worked | 20:28 |
| Reni3 | lordievader, you know my story, I only switched my hard drive | 20:28 |
| sintre | what brand computer your lappy? | 20:28 |
| Reni3 | toshiba satellite | 20:28 |
| lordievader | Reni3: Okay, what does 'sudo iw dev wlp5s0 scan' output? | 20:29 |
| sintre | fn + f8 | 20:29 |
| sintre | see if that turns it on | 20:29 |
| lordievader | sintre: Hardware switch didn't kill it ;) rfkill would show that. | 20:30 |
| Reni3 | sintre, did not work | 20:30 |
| sintre | hmm | 20:30 |
| * sintre scratches head | 20:30 | |
| Reni3 | root@linux:/# sudo iw dev wlp5s0 scan | 20:30 |
| Reni3 | command failed: Network is down (-100) | 20:30 |
| Reni3 | maybe also good to know: | 20:30 |
| Reni3 | according to lspci: | 20:30 |
| Reni3 | 05:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) | 20:30 |
| Reni3 | I installed ndiswrapper | 20:30 |
| Reni3 | and tried to find a commercial driver but could not find the right one | 20:31 |
| lordievader | Reni3: Rfkill doesn't show it as blocked? | 20:31 |
| Reni3 | no | 20:31 |
| lordievader | Ndiswrapper is seldomly necessary anymore. | 20:31 |
| lordievader | Reni3: sudo ip l s wlp5s0 up && sudo iw dev wlp5s0 scan | 20:31 |
| Reni3 | root@linux:/# sudo ip l s wlp5s0 up && sudo iw dev wlp5s0 scan | 20:32 |
| Reni3 | RTNETLINK answers: Operation not possible due to RF-kill | 20:32 |
| lordievader | So there is an rfkill at play. | 20:32 |
| Reni3 | Hello? | 20:35 |
| lordievader | Reni3: Unblock it ;) | 20:35 |
| sintre | hi here | 20:35 |
| lordievader | Either through hardware or software, depending on the kind. | 20:36 |
| Reni3 | I know what happened | 20:37 |
| Reni3 | <sintre> fn + f8 | 20:37 |
| Reni3 | that was the moment when I blocked it | 20:37 |
| lordievader | As I figured | 20:37 |
| Reni3 | now it's unblocked, I pressed the buttons again | 20:37 |
| Reni3 | root@linux:/# sudo ip l s wlp5s0 up && sudo iw dev wlp5s0 scan | 20:37 |
| Reni3 | command failed: Device or resource busy (-16) | 20:37 |
| lordievader | Reni3: What does the scan tell you? | 20:37 |
| lordievader | Reni3: Give it a bit and rerun the command. | 20:37 |
| Reni3 | root@linux:/# sudo ip l s wlp5s0 up && sudo iw dev wlp5s0 scan | 20:37 |
| Reni3 | root@linux:/# | 20:37 |
| Reni3 | it returns nothing | 20:38 |
| lordievader | You can run the scan command separately now ;) | 20:38 |
| Reni3 | root@linux:/# sudo iw dev wlp5s0 scan | 20:38 |
| Reni3 | root@linux:/# | 20:38 |
| lordievader | Hmmm | 20:38 |
| Reni3 | it does not return anything | 20:38 |
| lordievader | It is a laptop right? | 20:38 |
| Reni3 | yes | 20:38 |
| lordievader | Does it return nothing if your are next to the access point? | 20:39 |
| Reni3 | the access point is directly next to the laptop | 20:40 |
| Reni3 | 15 cm | 20:40 |
| lordievader | Ah | 20:40 |
| lordievader | http://askubuntu.com/questions/452315/problems-with-realtek-rtl8188ee-on-14-04 might help you... | 20:42 |
| sintre | ren3 > can you try laptop with a live cd or media? | 20:43 |
| sintre | reni3 sry | 20:43 |
| Reni3 | sintre, it works with the live cd. I used the live cd to install kubuntu | 20:44 |
| Reni3 | lordievader, thank you I try it | 20:44 |
| sintre | if it work live then as i recomended start over | 20:44 |
| sintre | this gizmo type set up is confused something somewhere | 20:44 |
| sintre | so probally a update problem somwhere | 20:45 |
| Reni3 | ok | 20:45 |
| Reni3 | if lordievader's solution from stackoverflow does not work, I will re-install | 20:46 |
| sintre | its your time not mine | 20:46 |
| sintre | gl either way | 20:46 |
| lordievader | I expect that Reni3 will run into the same problem after updating his new install. Since that is what the checkbox does... | 20:47 |
| Reni3 | *her | 20:47 |
| Reni3 | I am just installing the needed things in apt-get | 20:47 |
| sintre | lordievader > not looking to have a pissin contest over trouble shooting tactics for her sake i hope your recommendation works | 20:48 |
| sintre | but i'm kind of lets not spend hours running in circle kind of person | 20:48 |
| lordievader | Agreed | 20:49 |
| * Reni3 runs "make" | 20:49 | |
| lordievader | Reni3: Good luck. | 20:50 |
| Reni3 | thank you | 20:51 |
| Reni3 | lordievader, I followed the stackoverflow posting | 21:00 |
| Reni3 | it went well - no errors | 21:00 |
| Reni3 | what should I do now? | 21:01 |
| Reni3 | restart?! | 21:01 |
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| === Guest58689 is now known as claydoh | ||
| Reni3 | I start over with the installation | 21:06 |
| Reni3 | sintre? | 21:06 |
| Reni3 | is there anything I should take care of while installing? | 21:06 |
| Reni3 | the WIFI network was available _while_ installing | 21:06 |
| sintre | don't | 21:06 |
| Reni3 | what should I take care of, when I start over? | 21:06 |
| sintre | uncheck that , and don't update while installing | 21:07 |
| sintre | only third party extras | 21:07 |
| Reni3 | I could not click the 3rd party extras | 21:07 |
| Reni3 | they were disabled | 21:07 |
| sintre | don't even have the pc hooked up | 21:07 |
| Reni3 | I remember the checkboxes | 21:07 |
| sintre | to anything | 21:07 |
| Reni3 | one was at top (the 3rd party extras) | 21:07 |
| sintre | except an ac outlet | 21:07 |
| Reni3 | and one checkbox was below (the wifi) | 21:07 |
| sintre | no do not connect to internet during install | 21:07 |
| Reni3 | ok | 21:07 |
| sintre | we'll update later | 21:08 |
| sintre | make sure you have your touters poasskey handy | 21:08 |
| sintre | routers | 21:08 |
| Reni3 | you said: | 21:08 |
| Reni3 | <sintre> only third party extras | 21:08 |
| Reni3 | the checkbox was disabled | 21:08 |
| Reni3 | I could not check it | 21:08 |
| sintre | check that! | 21:08 |
| sintre | :) | 21:08 |
| sintre | it allows you to watch movie and media and such | 21:08 |
| Reni3 | disabled means: "it's not possible to check it" | 21:08 |
| sintre | um what? | 21:09 |
| Reni3 | wait, maybe I can find a screenshot on google images | 21:09 |
| sintre | btw what iso are you using for install? | 21:09 |
| Reni3 | the 64 bit desktop iso | 21:10 |
| Reni3 | 16.10 | 21:10 |
| Reni3 | I checked the md5sum after downloading, and verified the burned data | 21:10 |
| sintre | k i personally use 16.04.1 | 21:11 |
| sintre | 16.04.2 just got released the other day | 21:11 |
| Reni3 | that's what I used before (when the harddrive broke) | 21:11 |
| sintre | if you get the no option for unrestrited extras again | 21:11 |
| Reni3 | I thought using the newest iso would be good | 21:11 |
| sintre | go back | 21:11 |
| sintre | sometimjes for some machines it is | 21:11 |
| Reni3 | can I install them now? | 21:11 |
| Reni3 | I forgot the name of it, but I remember that it was something like: | 21:11 |
| sintre | the extras yes | 21:12 |
| Reni3 | kubuntu-restricted-extras | 21:12 |
| Reni3 | I think that was the name | 21:12 |
| sintre | if your installing it should be an option | 21:12 |
| sintre | i think something happend with your upgrade | 21:12 |
| sintre | i again recomend fresh install | 21:12 |
| Reni3 | yes I do it | 21:12 |
| Reni3 | ok I am off | 21:12 |
| Reni3 | thank you | 21:12 |
| Reni3 | thank you sintre | 21:13 |
| sintre | gl i'll be around after your done | 21:13 |
| Reni3 | thank you lordievader | 21:13 |
| buriedalive | stop the world | 21:13 |
| sintre | np Reni3 | 21:13 |
| Reni3 | thank will take about 30 - 45 minutes | 21:13 |
| buriedalive | Reni3 you gotcha | 21:14 |
| buriedalive | fuck | 21:14 |
| sintre | she hasn't done anything yet , she's just downloading iso atm i believe | 21:15 |
| genii | buriedalive: Please watch the swearing, channel is supposed to be PG | 21:15 |
| BluesKaj | buriedalive, no need for that language | 21:15 |
| buriedalive | sorry me people | 21:16 |
| buriedalive | BluesKaj sup | 21:17 |
| Reni3 | I could not help it, and tried to reboot before starting over | 21:18 |
| Reni3 | wifi works now | 21:18 |
| sintre | lol | 21:18 |
| sintre | gz | 21:18 |
| Reni3 | i guess it was the stackoverflow posting | 21:19 |
| buriedalive | :-D | 21:19 |
| sintre | i also remember i said to unhook from your gizmo set up | 21:19 |
| sintre | so rdy to update what you got then? | 21:19 |
| Reni3 | so we should all keep in mind: even though windows and linux are not the same, when it comes to a good old reboot, they can be quite alike | 21:19 |
| BluesKaj | calling it a day folks...take care | 21:19 |
| Reni3 | sintre, rdy? what is that? | 21:19 |
| buriedalive | i'm glad to see ya | 21:19 |
| sintre | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports | 21:19 |
| sintre | rdy is short for ready | 21:20 |
| Reni3 | I added that manually already | 21:20 |
| sintre | ok then sudo apt update | 21:20 |
| sintre | then sudo apt full-upgrade | 21:20 |
| Reni3 | wait I upload my sources.list | 21:20 |
| Reni3 | yes I also updated it already | 21:20 |
| Reni3 | and did an apt-get upgrade | 21:20 |
| sintre | seems your good to go then | 21:21 |
| genii | Reni3: You should not put PPA entries directly into your main sources.list | 21:21 |
| buriedalive | how to full ubuntumaniac? he is write to sudo permanently :) | 21:21 |
| Reni3 | deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety main restricted universe multiverse | 21:22 |
| Reni3 | deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-updates main restricted universe multiverse | 21:22 |
| Reni3 | deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-security main restricted universe multiverse | 21:22 |
| Reni3 | deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-backports main restricted universe multiverse | 21:22 |
| Reni3 | this is my sources.list | 21:22 |
| Reni3 | is anything missing? | 21:22 |
| Reni3 | ... | 21:23 |
| genii | !pastebin | 21:23 |
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| buriedalive | got it much | 21:23 |
| genii | ..for next time | 21:23 |
| Reni3 | ok | 21:23 |
| sintre | Reni3 > any other config issues you miight need help with | 21:25 |
| Reni3 | sintre, yes my mouse | 21:25 |
| sintre | blu tooth wireless / wired? | 21:26 |
| Reni3 | it would be really mouse if I could use my nice | 21:26 |
| Reni3 | vice versa | 21:26 |
| Reni3 | it's a USB mouse | 21:26 |
| sintre | so it doesn't auto detect when you plug it in? | 21:26 |
| Reni3 | no | 21:26 |
| sintre | ok err, i know this sounds bad but you probally are still staring at a reinstall | 21:27 |
| sintre | so get to downloading | 21:27 |
| sintre | try all usb ports? | 21:27 |
| genii | If you're plugging it into a USB3 port ( usually blue) try USB2 | 21:27 |
| Reni3 | the same problem with all ports | 21:27 |
| sintre | second if you have a second mouse that you xcan test would be helpful as well | 21:27 |
| Reni3 | I ran a tail -f /var/log/syslog | 21:27 |
| buriedalive | cheers! | 21:28 |
| Reni3 | sintre, I only have 1 mouse - it worked until I set up my computer from new | 21:28 |
| sintre | something happend with your install reni3 | 21:28 |
| sintre | or upgrade | 21:28 |
| buriedalive | I ran = Iran :-D | 21:28 |
| sintre | not even being able to detect a mouse is very unusual | 21:28 |
| Reni3 | https://dpaste.de/TEhO/raw | 21:29 |
| Reni3 | it detects the mouse | 21:29 |
| Reni3 | but it does not work | 21:29 |
| Reni3 | my touchpad works | 21:29 |
| sintre | ok if you know that mouse works | 21:29 |
| sintre | and its not working again same issue with your wifi | 21:29 |
| genii | Reni3: Please try: unplug the mouse. Wait 15 seconds. Replug the mouse. Wait 15 seconds. Then issue: dmesg| tail -n25 ...and put the results into a pastebin which we can go see | 21:30 |
| Reni3 | genii, ok | 21:30 |
| buriedalive | my mouese it does work tooo | 21:30 |
| Reni3 | unplugged | 21:30 |
| sintre | buriedalive> seems you've had some drinks but in a trouble shooting session random pointless comments don't help | 21:31 |
| buriedalive | sintre f little bit jokes today | 21:31 |
| genii | buriedalive: If you are not assisting a user, or receiving assistance, it's better not to annoy others with nonsense | 21:32 |
| Reni3 | https://dpaste.de/swDK/raw | 21:32 |
| buriedalive | I'm here long time | 21:33 |
| genii | buriedalive: For nonsense, we have the #kubuntu-offtopic channel. | 21:33 |
| sintre | after unplugging it did it work? | 21:33 |
| sintre | as genii suggested | 21:33 |
| Reni3 | sintre, no it did not work | 21:33 |
| buriedalive | just please | 21:33 |
| sintre | download the iso over again | 21:33 |
| sintre | if we can figure it out without a reinstall we will , but at this point i don't trust your install | 21:34 |
| * genii sips | 21:34 | |
| genii | Interesting. The system sees your mouse as a keyboard | 21:34 |
| Reni3 | oh damn | 21:34 |
| Reni3 | wait | 21:34 |
| sintre | yea at this point , plus wifi works rnadomly | 21:34 |
| sintre | i think safest bet now is reinstall | 21:34 |
| Reni3 | god | 21:35 |
| Reni3 | when I tell you something | 21:35 |
| genii | You might want to update the usb id list | 21:35 |
| Reni3 | please, please promise you won't hate on me | 21:35 |
| sintre | we promise what | 21:35 |
| buriedalive | why? | 21:35 |
| Reni3 | ok I will tell you anyway | 21:35 |
| Reni3 | when genii said: | 21:35 |
| Reni3 | <genii> Interesting. The system sees your mouse as a keyboard | 21:35 |
| sintre | buriedalive> don't push us | 21:35 |
| Reni3 | I realized that I had my keyboard plugged it, rather than my mouse | 21:36 |
| Reni3 | when plugging in the mouse, it works all of a sudden | 21:36 |
| sintre | lol ok does the mouse work now | 21:36 |
| sintre | :) | 21:36 |
| Reni3 | yes! | 21:36 |
| Reni3 | sorry | 21:36 |
| sintre | success! | 21:36 |
| Reni3 | !!! | 21:36 |
| Reni3 | yeeeah | 21:36 |
| genii | buriedalive: If you persist in being annoying, you will give me no choice but to give you a small ban | 21:36 |
| sintre | np happy ending kinda | 21:36 |
| buriedalive | sintre puch ti you? :) | 21:36 |
| sintre | but pls still download that iso for backup sake | 21:36 |
| Reni3 | last problem: | 21:36 |
| Reni3 | aptitude search google-chrome | 21:36 |
| sintre | genii > i can't commubnicate with this fool | 21:37 |
| Reni3 | ^ gives no results | 21:37 |
| sintre | warned 6 times now | 21:37 |
| genii | Work, AFK a bit | 21:37 |
| sintre | so you want to install google chrome? | 21:37 |
| Reni3 | sintre, yes, the original one | 21:37 |
| Reni3 | not chromium | 21:37 |
| sintre | hmm not sure the difference | 21:38 |
| sintre | hmm might need to wait around a bit | 21:38 |
| === lethu_ is now known as lethu | ||
| sintre | i don't use the broswer so i don't know the name exactly | 21:38 |
| sintre | https://betanews.com/2016/09/25/how-to-install-google-chrome-ubuntu-linux/ | 21:40 |
| Reni3 | thank you! | 21:40 |
| sintre | best thing i could find | 21:40 |
| Reni3 | I would like to thank all of you | 21:40 |
| Reni3 | especially sintre, lordievader and also genii | 21:40 |
| sintre | np remember to come back :) | 21:40 |
| Reni3 | you saved me ass several times today | 21:40 |
| sintre | and stop by kubuntu-offtopic as well | 21:40 |
| Reni3 | ok! | 21:41 |
| Reni3 | is it okay to remove the package "kubuntu-settings-desktop" ? | 21:56 |
| Reni3 | Is that a meta package that can be removed safely? | 21:56 |
| sintre | what is asking you to remove it? | 21:56 |
| Reni3 | https://dpaste.de/pgQ9/raw | 21:57 |
| sintre | ok did you run the apt full-upgrade command | 21:57 |
| sintre | that will remove and replace packages as needed | 21:58 |
| Reni3 | after adding the new repository? | 21:58 |
| sintre | yes | 21:58 |
| Reni3 | I ran it before I added the new repo | 21:58 |
| sintre | run it now | 21:58 |
| sintre | first apt update | 21:58 |
| sintre | sudo apt update | 21:58 |
| sintre | then sudo apt-full-upgrade | 21:58 |
| sintre | new repo is where you need the packages from | 21:59 |
| Reni3 | I suppose you mean: | 21:59 |
| Reni3 | apt-get full-upgrade | 21:59 |
| sintre | no | 21:59 |
| sintre | sudo apt update | 21:59 |
| sintre | the get command isn't needed in new apt | 22:00 |
| Reni3 | apt-full-upgrade is not a command | 22:00 |
| sintre | stop witht eh dashes | 22:00 |
| sintre | sudo apt update | 22:00 |
| sintre | copy and past that exactly | 22:00 |
| Reni3 | that's a normal update! | 22:01 |
| Reni3 | of course I ran that! | 22:01 |
| Reni3 | after I added the repo | 22:01 |
| sintre | now sudo apt full-upgrade <this one needs the dash | 22:01 |
| Reni3 | that gave me 3 upgraded and 1 new package | 22:02 |
| sintre | hit y | 22:02 |
| Reni3 | I did and installed it | 22:03 |
| sintre | and now your all up to date , new stuff lands weekly at min | 22:03 |
| sintre | so run same commands later in week | 22:03 |
| Reni3 | I still receive the same error with the stuff that caused the problem originally | 22:03 |
| sintre | and don't just go around deleting stuff :) | 22:03 |
| sintre | ok what error is this | 22:03 |
| Reni3 | the same as before | 22:04 |
| Reni3 | wait I paste it | 22:04 |
| Reni3 | https://dpaste.de/Tzmd/raw | 22:04 |
| sintre | ok something is weird here | 22:05 |
| Reni3 | https://dpaste.de/Yq69/raw | 22:05 |
| sintre | really redownload the iso and get ready to reinstall | 22:05 |
| sintre | thats not an error lol | 22:05 |
| sintre | just hit yes | 22:05 |
| Reni3 | I guess this is a 3rd party repo problem | 22:05 |
| sintre | its just telling you it has to remove packages | 22:06 |
| Reni3 | sintre, are you aware that this will remove a package? | 22:06 |
| sintre | yes its supposed to | 22:06 |
| Reni3 | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 22:06 |
| Reni3 | kubuntu-settings-desktop | 22:06 |
| sintre | they aren't relevant to the new apps | 22:06 |
| sintre | just click yes | 22:06 |
| Reni3 | will KDE 4 die because of this? | 22:06 |
| sintre | it will REPLACE it | 22:06 |
| sintre | it will be fine pls trust me on this one | 22:06 |
| Reni3 | let's see | 22:06 |
| * Reni3 runs it | 22:07 | |
| Reni3 | downloading near 1 GB now | 22:07 |
| Reni3 | thank you sintre | 22:07 |
| sintre | after its finished reboot and rejoin us | 22:07 |
| sintre | np i know it scary sometimes using terminal like this but it gets easier :) | 22:07 |
| Reni3 | I am leaving and brb | 22:08 |
| Reni3 | thank you again! | 22:08 |
| Reni3 | re | 22:41 |
| Reni3 | the installation was successful | 22:41 |
| Reni3 | I have one more question I'd like to ask | 22:41 |
| sintre | go for it | 22:41 |
| Reni3 | as you probably got to know, my old hard drive caused some trouble today, why I replaced it with a new one | 22:42 |
| Reni3 | however, the old hard drive can still be mounted | 22:42 |
| Reni3 | I bought a device that let's me connect my laptop's old 2,5" hard drive to my laptop via USB | 22:42 |
| Reni3 | this way, I would like to read the data from the harddrive | 22:43 |
| sintre | ok use that it should auto find it | 22:43 |
| Reni3 | https://dpaste.de/MAdz/raw | 22:43 |
| sintre | and basicly copy ands paste data from funky drive to new one | 22:43 |
| Reni3 | theyes but the device is not recognized (see paste) | 22:43 |
| sintre | ok go to lil k at vbottom | 22:43 |
| Reni3 | ? | 22:43 |
| Reni3 | what | 22:43 |
| sintre | then system then dolphin | 22:44 |
| sintre | at bottom left corner there is a lil k | 22:44 |
| Reni3 | what is "lil k" and what is "vbottom" ? | 22:44 |
| sintre | k and a lil stuff around them is your menu lol | 22:44 |
| Reni3 | the K menu? | 22:44 |
| sintre | bottom left | 22:44 |
| sintre | yes | 22:44 |
| Reni3 | ah! lil = little? | 22:44 |
| sintre | yes i abreviate alot sry | 22:44 |
| Reni3 | dolphin is open | 22:44 |
| sintre | ok click on the connected drive | 22:45 |
| Reni3 | nah 'ts gd t shrtn thngs | 22:45 |
| sintre | it should mount it and give you acess if the drive isn't completely defective | 22:45 |
| Reni3 | the device is not listed there as it is not recognized | 22:45 |
| Reni3 | I pasted you the output of tail -f /var/log/syslog | 22:45 |
| sintre | then its not mounted | 22:45 |
| Reni3 | and it gives an error | 22:45 |
| Reni3 | it's not mountable | 22:46 |
| Reni3 | https://dpaste.de/MAdz/raw | 22:46 |
| sintre | so is this a cable or an external hdd you got it in | 22:46 |
| sintre | its seeing something is connected | 22:47 |
| Reni3 | sintre, it's a special device to connect internal harddrives externally | 22:47 |
| sintre | thats basicly a cable with a cheap controller i assume | 22:47 |
| genii | Hm, jmicron | 22:47 |
| sintre | one take it out | 22:47 |
| sintre | and make sure the conecction is very snug | 22:47 |
| sintre | then make sure to plug it back into a 2.0 usb port on your laptop | 22:48 |
| Reni3 | https://img.conrad.at/medias/global/ce/5000_5999/5900/5930/5933/1277995_AB_01_FB.EPS_1000.jpg | 22:48 |
| genii | Reni3: The drive itself... is it a SATA connector or older IDE ribbon type connector? ( but smaller since it's a 2.5" laptop drive) | 22:48 |
| Reni3 | genii, not sure how to tell the difference | 22:49 |
| genii | If IDE, then aside from the usb-storage driver which Ubuntu would normally load for such things, the pata-jmicron driver may need to be manually loaded | 22:49 |
| sintre | look at the drive | 22:49 |
| Reni3 | I try to find a google image that looks the same | 22:50 |
| Reni3 | brb | 22:50 |
| sintre | look at the drive with your eyes and see what it says :) | 22:50 |
| genii | Reni3: Left or right kind of connector? http://cdn.makeuseof.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/SATA03.png | 22:50 |
| sintre | once you get back and all | 22:50 |
| Reni3 | no genii | 22:51 |
| Reni3 | genii, https://vanguardgamingsite.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/sata-drive.jpg | 22:51 |
| genii | Yes, so SATA | 22:51 |
| sintre | ok and your gizmo is for sata drives | 22:51 |
| sintre | so unplug make sure it snug | 22:51 |
| sintre | then plug back into a usba 2.0 port on laptop | 22:52 |
| sintre | thats like a plug and play external controler gizmo | 22:52 |
| Reni3 | I unplugged and replugged it and nothing happened | 22:52 |
| sintre | if this doesnt't work i would suggest a cheap 120 dollar exernal enxclosure | 22:52 |
| genii | Odd that dmesg says linux kernel: [ 4843.774330] usb 3-1: Product: USB to ATA/ATAPI bridge | 22:52 |
| sintre | i mean 20 dollars sry | 22:52 |
| Reni3 | not even the syslog says anything | 22:52 |
| sintre | can you confirm you gizmo works with another sata drive? | 22:53 |
| Reni3 | sintre, it's from Conrad, that's a tech store who really knows what they sell | 22:53 |
| Reni3 | sintre, it's the only sata drive I have | 22:53 |
| sintre | well they may know something , but without another hdd to test | 22:54 |
| sintre | we can't confirm if its dead or you have a bad gizmo | 22:54 |
| Reni3 | I see | 22:54 |
| IrcsomeBot | Mostaaaafaaaa was removed by: Mostaaaafaaaa | 22:55 |
| sintre | https://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-Sabrent-2-5-Inch-Enclosure-EC-UK30/dp/B00LS31KQG/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487976892&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=notebook+hdd+enxlosure | 22:55 |
| sintre | something like this | 22:55 |
| sintre | 10-15 bucks | 22:55 |
| sintre | i would invest before you toss the drive | 22:55 |
| sintre | i have 3 , not this one but similar | 22:55 |
| Reni3 | ok | 22:55 |
| Reni3 | thank you1 | 22:55 |
| genii | Reni3: Please unplug it, wait 15 seconds. Then issue: sudo modprobe jmicron ...then replug it, wait 15 seconds. Then: dmesg|tail -n25 ..to a pastebin for us | 22:56 |
| Reni3 | genii, modprobe: FATAL: Module jmicron not found in directory /lib/modules/4.8.0-39-generic | 22:57 |
| genii | From looking into the vendor:device it looks like it has some combo SATA/PATA to USB chipset | 22:57 |
| sintre | if you can return gizmo and get a pure sata exernal | 22:58 |
| sintre | what i would do | 22:58 |
| Reni3 | so the problem is that it features both? | 22:58 |
| sintre | no idea , gizmo could be defective , but the hdd could also be trashed | 22:58 |
| genii | Reni3: Try instead then: sudo modprobe pata-jmicron | 22:59 |
| sintre | might as well elimate one possability | 22:59 |
| genii | ( and then the dmesg and pastebin) | 22:59 |
| Reni3 | genii, https://dpaste.de/Sgpj/raw | 23:00 |
| genii | Well, at least it's not trying to use MTP now | 23:01 |
| sintre | try to use dolphin to access it | 23:02 |
| Reni3 | sintre, what in god name would that change? | 23:02 |
| sintre | testing | 23:02 |
| Reni3 | when no device is assigned to it at all | 23:02 |
| Reni3 | tail -f /var/log/syslog would be the first place to look | 23:03 |
| genii | sintre: It disconnected again, had some issue trying to query it | 23:03 |
| Reni3 | if that does not assign any /dev/ device, how would dolphin know how to use it? | 23:03 |
| Reni3 | once there is a device, I can mount /dev/whatever /mount/to/ | 23:03 |
| Reni3 | that's the same dolphin does | 23:03 |
| Reni3 | similar | 23:03 |
| sintre | ok how about this , if no other hdd , do you have another system you can plug your gizmo and hdd into? | 23:06 |
| sintre | you said you have a tablet | 23:06 |
| sintre | do you have a micro usb adapter? | 23:06 |
| Reni3 | no micro usb adapter around | 23:07 |
| Reni3 | what I wonder: | 23:07 |
| Reni3 | there is no drivers CD being shipped with the device | 23:08 |
| Reni3 | it would work out of the box like a normal external HD | 23:08 |
| sintre | all my external enclosure and cables work out the box | 23:08 |
| sintre | i think you need to get to store and trade out your gizmo | 23:09 |
| genii | Hm, error 62 is apparently it took too long to respond | 23:09 |
| Reni3 | damn it | 23:09 |
| Reni3 | genii! | 23:09 |
| Reni3 | it works | 23:09 |
| Reni3 | I unplugged it | 23:09 |
| Reni3 | and re-plugged it | 23:09 |
| Reni3 | and unplugged it | 23:09 |
| Reni3 | and replugged it | 23:09 |
| Reni3 | and now I got a device assigned | 23:09 |
| Reni3 | how can this be? | 23:09 |
| sintre | whoot | 23:09 |
| Reni3 | I am now immediately backing up the HD | 23:10 |
| genii | Maybe give it longer than usual for it to get settled. | 23:10 |
| sintre | now get to recovering data while it lasts | 23:10 |
| sintre | future reference | 23:10 |
| sintre | https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812400542&cm_re=laptop_hdd_conversion_cable-_-12-400-542-_-Product | 23:10 |
| sintre | cab'e like this is all you need for recover i got a couple around :) | 23:10 |
| Reni3 | https://dpaste.de/F0Jc/raw | 23:10 |
| Reni3 | thank you again | 23:11 |
| Reni3 | I am now running the backup | 23:11 |
| sintre | Reni3 welcome it was genii who got this one and some luck | 23:12 |
| sintre | we love happy endings here | 23:12 |
| sintre | as often we end up into stone walls | 23:12 |
| genii | I'm suspecting the pata-jmicron module is required in this case to make the computer see it as a hard drive and not some camera/phone MTP device, but that it just takes a little while to spin up and become available | 23:21 |
| sintre | yea odd gizmo | 23:21 |
| genii | Reni3: If you are going to be using this adapter much, you may want to put in the file /etc/modules the line: pata-jmicron ( or maybe with underscore when in there instead of dash, I forget right now) | 23:23 |
| genii | ...this will load the driver automatically at boot so you don't need to do the modprobe command every time | 23:23 |
| genii | Reni3: Also, you may want to issue: sudo update-usbids ( this grabs the latest list of usb device ids and their associated mappings to drivers, etc) | 23:31 |
| sintre | she might be moving her entire music collection atm lol | 23:32 |
| sintre | hopefully she gets it , whole thing started with this drive failing | 23:33 |
| R13ose | The touchpad is too sensitive. How do I make this less sensitive? | 23:33 |
| sintre | can go to mouse settings and manuall change respons times | 23:35 |
| sintre | http://imgur.com/a/8nS4X | 23:38 |
| R13ose | sintre: almost everything is the same. What about sensitive for touchpad settings? | 23:40 |
| sintre | under utlities do you have a program called kmousetool? | 23:41 |
| sintre | seems to be a disability aid of sort | 23:42 |
| sintre | might be able to change settings better i dunno | 23:42 |
| R13ose | Nope. | 23:42 |
| R13ose | This is a laptop | 23:42 |
| sintre | mine are as well | 23:42 |
| sintre | hmm | 23:42 |
| R13ose | Okay | 23:42 |
| sintre | its installed but i don't have it active not sure if it would even help | 23:43 |
| sintre | but using my touchpads normally the acceleration speed is what sets the cursor apart | 23:43 |
| R13ose | sintre: nothing in touchpad settings will help? | 23:44 |
| sintre | faster i go faster cursor moves , and i know or believe that can be adjusted | 23:44 |
| sintre | lmao i just noticed touch pad settings lol | 23:44 |
| sintre | maybe let me loo if i can change anything on this system | 23:44 |
| sintre | http://imgur.com/a/7j5h1 | 23:46 |
| sintre | go here | 23:46 |
| R13ose | Changed that | 23:49 |
| sintre | try the sensisitivty tab | 23:49 |
| sintre | i really don't have a clue beyond that | 23:50 |
| sintre | both my laptops seem to work reasonably well | 23:50 |
| sintre | touchpad wise out the gate | 23:50 |
| R13ose | Show your settings and then I will try this out | 23:50 |
| sintre | one sec | 23:50 |
| sintre | http://imgur.com/a/1ixs5 | 23:52 |
| R13ose | Done thanks | 23:53 |
| sintre | np | 23:53 |
| R13ose | How do I improve the distro. | 23:54 |
| R13ose | ? | 23:54 |
| sintre | you mean update it to latest? | 23:54 |
| sintre | packages and all | 23:54 |
| sintre | or help work on distro | 23:54 |
| R13ose | Nope. I mean just improve elements here and there | 23:55 |
| sintre | get to work lol | 23:55 |
| sintre | if you want to modifie the gui for yourself | 23:56 |
| R13ose | Lol | 23:56 |
| sintre | then plsma ripe for that so again read forum posts and things | 23:56 |
| sintre | if you want to talk to developers | 23:56 |
| sintre | go to kubuntu-devel | 23:56 |
| sintre | but be polite and ask where you can help out | 23:56 |
| R13ose | Not that far :) | 23:57 |
| sintre | one thing is finding bugs and reporting them | 23:57 |
| sintre | that can help alot | 23:58 |
| sintre | so as you go thru your normal usage find something odd or off or could be improved putting that up on the forums can be a big help | 23:58 |
| R13ose | Yep | 23:59 |
| sintre | well time for me to grab some dinner , see you around later if your on | 23:59 |
| R13ose | I have changed a lot recently | 23:59 |
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