[00:53] I added a small panel on the left side but everytime a new window is open for any app this appears. How do I make this stop and only show the panel when I hover over? [02:05] hello [02:05] i have a question [02:06] why kubunt 16.04 is soo lsow [02:08] Had installed kubuntu 14 and when it was updated to version 16.04 it became very slow [02:18] what's a good program to use to test cpu? stress? mprime? other? [02:33] anyone here can answer? [03:07] Hm, when I open Discover, it lists 0 items installed. How can I get it to populate with what I have installed? [03:08] Huh, it doesn't list anything when I search either === robert_ is now known as Guest44351 [04:56] my Kmail cant give email suggestion, big pain. using KDE 5.8.5, Kubuntu , any help please.. [08:33] i'd like to have "umount usb device" instead of "safely remove device" in kubuntu 14.04. is this possible? [08:38] Good morning. === rumble is now known as grumble [09:03] hi day [09:14] o/ [09:15] Hello. Is there any chance that KDE 5.9 will be installable on Kubuntu 16.10 or will we have to wait for 17.04 or something? [10:04] hi. is there a way I can get the PIM events calendar plugin for the calendar plasmoid? I recently went up to Plasma 5.8 and still don't seem to have it - just holidays [10:12] I need printer that will work with Kubuntu [10:13] So do I need Postscript or what's the deal these days? [10:31] jubo2: just check whether the printer manufacturer provides linux support for the printer (ppd files to be used with cups) [10:31] ps/pcl5/pcl6 i think all good [10:41] akik: Ok saved info. Thank you. [10:54] HI folks [10:54] hiya BluesKaj [10:54] hey jubo2 [12:26] Hi There. I am trying to install Kubuntu 16.10 on VirtualBox in Windows10. I downloaded the .iso and created VirtualBox. It boots and loads the K Desktop screen, but as soon as the loading bar completes, the screen fades to black and all I can see is the mouse cursor. Please help! I am getting no joy from searching on Google. [12:34] Hi There. I am trying to install Kubuntu 16.10 on VirtualBox in Windows10. I downloaded the .iso and created VirtualBox. It boots and loads the K Desktop screen, but as soon as the loading bar completes, the screen fades to black and all I can see is the mouse cursor. Please help! I am getting no joy from searching on Google. [12:39] Bullebak, best to ask in #vbox chat [12:42] would it be appropriate to run kubuntu in virtualbox? [12:43] I apologise for the crude question [12:43] Done it all my life so far. Just this latest version 16 giving me all my hell [12:43] it's just that virtualbox limits the graphics memory to 128MB [12:43] and KDE looks a bit heavy, graphic wise [12:44] .. maybe I should go for MATE flavour [12:44] or even Lubuntu [12:44] Mmmmm, now you might have a point. Going to push that up. Do not think it is set to 128MB in the first place! [12:45] lol [12:45] Heard more people with vbox + latest Kubuntu trouble. [12:45] Bullebak: you can make it go up to 256 [12:45] In the sameway Bullebak does. [12:45] my understnding is that one can set graphics memory to as mucj as the RAM can handle [12:46] Bullebak: VBoxManage modifyvm "Name of VM" --vram 256 [12:46] how do you make virtualbox graphic memory run up to 256? afaik it's only possible if the vm is a Windows one [12:47] if you find a solution (or work-around), could you add it to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/1627348 [12:47] Launchpad bug 1627348 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu Yakkety Live DVD boots to black screen with mouse pointer" [Undecided,Confirmed] [12:48] I think the original bug report was on real HW, but I can only replicate the bug in VirtualBox. [12:50] No joy. Pushing up video memory did not make a difference. I am trying to install it and I do not even get to a screen that says "Try Kubuntu" or "Install Kubuntu" [12:51] guess I was out to lunch on the vb virt memory :-) [12:53] Thanks ubottu, I am trying to read on Launchpad now... [12:54] Bullebak: did you enable 3d acceleration? [12:55] Bullebak: I have found that I can get to the installer anyway. Just hit to bring up the kicker application launcher. Then start typing install, and you will see the install program. [12:56] the windows key works as well [12:59] hi guys just upgraded my kubuntu 14 (just regular package upgrades) and now when I go to login it accpets my password and then just hangs any ideas? [13:00] daum, how did you upgrade? [13:00] BluesKaj, apt-get upgrade [13:00] from ? [13:00] command line [13:01] then the notifier came that system reboot was required to complete [13:01] so I did that it gets to the login screen, takes my password, then just hangs after it clears out the different users to choose from for login [13:01] oh regular package upgrade., ok [13:02] yeah - wasn't a core version bump [13:02] did you try ther recovery kernel in grub then dpkg repair [13:03] i can get to the command line and login fine - what package should i repair though? [13:04] just try another update/upgrade, however it could be your graphics driver isn't working [13:04] i do see in /var/log/lightdm/x-0-greeter.log a "Type error: result of expressoin 'button' [null] is not an object" looks like it's coming from /usr/share/kde4/apps/lightdm-kde-greeter/themese/userbar/ListButton.qml:31 [13:05] running another upgrade [13:07] My goodness! Akik, thanks the 3D excelleration worked and it now boots, however, I still get no option like at http://docs.kubuntu.org/docs/installation.html#install-process [13:07] BluesKaj, nope no luck=\ [13:07] I mean that it does not offer me the option to install. It just boots up as a live CD [13:07] daum, in the VT/TTY try startx [13:08] i do see also Bus::open: Cannot get ibus-daemons address [13:08] BluesKaj, hm no luck it goes to black screen when i do that [13:09] I now saw mpatillo's comment. Will try that thanks... [13:09] daum, which gpu? [13:09] last few lines areLoading extension GLX, Kernel modesetting enabled, AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch [13:09] looking one sec [13:10] daum, are you using lightdm ? recommend kdm for kde/kubuntu [13:10] BluesKaj, radeon 6750 [13:11] BluesKaj, i believe so - it just was the default one when i installed? [13:11] Bullebak: good. i think it's a bit sad that everything starts to require 3d acceleration [13:15] daum, wonder if your driver was borked , try installing xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu or was your driver the radeon ? [13:15] daum: You can login through a tty? [13:15] looks like i had the xserver-xorg-video-radeon before [13:15] he's already there [13:16] daum: If so, is the file system for /home full? [13:16] yep lordievader i cna ... also xinit works get a termianl on screen [13:16] lordievader, nope 80% [13:16] startx still produces just blank black screen [13:16] daum: Hmm, you could see if a fresh user has the same troubles. [13:16] daum, then try reinstalling the radeon again [13:16] and dkms [13:16] That way you know if it is your user profile or the system itself. [13:17] BluesKaj, would dpkg-reconfigure be enough on those? [13:17] lordievader, will create new user real quick now as a test [13:18] daum, dunno seldom use reconfigure [13:18] BluesKaj, so you suggest uninstall then reinstall both? [13:19] no just install them [13:19] apt-get just says they are already installed and at latest version [13:21] ah nevermind found the --reinstall [13:25] BluesKaj, no luck=( [13:26] BluesKaj, here is my xession-errors log: http://dpaste.com/3AV61BD [13:27] Greetings! I wonder if you could help me with a little problem. Over the last couple of days, my friend's 16.04 version Kubuntu has had a lot of upgrades. The ones that came through yesterday, killed his install. [13:27] daum: Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-daum" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0. [13:28] daum: Did you run gui programs through sudo? [13:28] I've had to take him back to 14.04 from a USB stick, because the other install was unrecoverable. There was a kernel panic which I witnessed in the terminal, but couldn't record it as nothing would work and we couldn't log in. [13:28] lordievader, i shouldn't have not that i can think of aside from the sometimes kdesu kate (to edit a few root files) [13:28] daum: sudo chown daum:daum /var/tmp/kdecache-daum [13:29] though, actually i wonder if yesterday i totally botched a command and ran rm /var/cache/ -rf [13:29] didn't even think of this til just now [13:29] when i meant to run rm var/cache -rf for an application ...i wonder if that caused some weirdness now [13:29] The problem we have now is that I smell a kernel bug in the latest version, but he's getting told there is a new version available, and I daren't take him up to 16.04 in case the panic resurfaces. [13:30] daum: There is lightdm stuff in /var/cache: sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm [13:31] lordievader, tried - no luck [13:31] shouldn't startx not require anything from lightdm [13:33] True [13:33] what about kdm ? [13:34] You are running startx right? Do you have 'startkde' (or startplasma whatever it is these days) in your xinitrc? [13:35] lordievader, where would that file be? [13:36] daum: In your homedir ~/.xinitrc [13:36] hm don't have anything there=\ [13:36] BluesKaj, also just installed kdm rebooting to give 'er a try too [13:36] sudo dpkg - reconfigure kdm [13:37] BluesKaj, it goes to a black screen after login [13:37] daum: Add: exec startkde [13:38] Then run startx as daum. [13:38] "exec startkde not found" [13:38] Does 'startkde' exist on your system? [13:39] nope [13:39] i swear i didn't just delete /usr/bin/ stuff haha [13:39] Ah, that might be the problem. You are running trusty right? [13:40] yeah [13:40] Probably easiest to do: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop [13:40] 14.04.5 [13:40] !info kde-meta trusty [13:40] Package kde-meta does not exist in trusty [13:40] Hmm, forgot how the kde/plasma meta package for Trusty was called. [13:40] !info startkde [13:41] Package startkde does not exist in yakkety [13:41] Hmm -.- [13:42] lordievader, http://dpaste.com/0ADQT3P from the install kubuntu-deskto [13:42] Ooee, interesting. [13:43] daum: Any ppa's enabled? [13:43] yah a java and php one [13:43] Hmm, that shouldn't matter. [13:43] Can you (re)install the plasma-desktop one? [13:44] which? [13:44] i could do a dist upgrade [13:44] haha [13:44] will that may work? [13:44] workspace most likely [13:45] BluesKaj, hm/ [13:45] kde or plasma workspace [13:46] forgotten , which it is on kde4 [13:46] daum: Make sure the plasma-desktop package is installed. [13:46] hm well i'm happy to upgrade to kubuntu 16 [13:47] lordievader, kde-workplace-bin is installed not plasma-desktop [13:47] daum: So install plasma-desktop ;) [13:47] it won't let me=( [13:48] daum: Please paste the output. [13:48] kubuntu-desktop then [13:48] http://dpaste.com/10XEEYB [13:48] BluesKaj: One at a time, kubuntu-desktop depends on plasma-desktop anyways. [13:49] or vice-versa [13:49] daum: Okay, this is going to be tedious, but everytime it tells you of a package, in this case 'plasma-widgets-workspace', try to install it manually. [13:50] daum: Ultimately you will find one dependency which refuses to be installed. Most likely due to a version mismatch. [13:50] ha this can quickly go down a rabbit hole the next one has 3 depends [13:51] That is what I meant with tedious ;) [13:51] weird [13:51] http://dpaste.com/3EDB3JJ [13:51] daum, yes I found if you choose the last dependency in the list the rest fasll in line, not always, but mostly [13:52] shouldn't that progression not have results in an install? [13:52] sorry, resulted in an install [13:53] daum: Seems like you can backtrack ;) [13:53] Unles kdepim-runtime still complains... [13:54] yep that installed [13:54] woo plasma workspace installed [13:54] and startkde is there [13:54] daum: And plasma-desktop? [13:54] we're cooking! [13:54] and we're back [13:54] :-) [13:55] so any ideas why it couldn't just run that install itself? [13:55] depenency order [13:56] dependency even [13:56] daum: Good question. [13:56] well eitherway thank you very much for the help [13:56] daum: No problem ;) [13:56] weird [13:57] Glad it works again. [13:57] that deleted my mysql server [13:57] In favor of maria-db? [13:57] hmm not sure - right now no mysql is running it seems [13:57] well whatever i'll deal with this later should probably get to work [13:57] It installed mariadb-server-core, mariadb is a drop-in replacement for mysql. [13:58] i'll also do a dist-upgrade tomorrow and hopeuflly some of this resolves itself haha [13:58] yah it was that akondai backend i think required some other version of mysql that wasn't 5.6 which i had instlaled [13:59] daum, if you want to upgrade to 16.04 , sudo do-release-upgrade is now the command [13:59] oh yah it switched it out for maria which for some reason ins't starting [13:59] daum: Oh, any error in the logs? [14:00] yeah - seems to think the logfile is corrupted http://dpaste.com/2TW4HA8 [14:04] looks like some people say to remove that file after switching over and it'll work [14:04] will try that afte ri backup the directory [14:04] thanks again for all the help guys! [14:05] daum, yw [14:11] Sorry guys, I'm gonna have to fly. I'll have to come back to you later when I get the chance to sort this out. See ya. [16:01] hello [16:02] i am just on my android tablet so I can only type slowly [16:02] my kubuntu has a problem [16:02] it boots into initrms [16:03] busybox [16:03] I tried to run fsck but it did not work because the hard drive was mounted [16:03] i went to a call shop and burned a kubuntu 16.10 desktop DVD [16:04] normally there should be a menu when starting from DVD where I can select to repair the system [16:04] unfortunately I do not get such a menu [16:04] my kubuntu live dvd starts into the live system [16:05] run e2fsck /dev/sdX , X being sda or whatever the deive is named [16:05] when I then try to run fsck I receive the message that the drive was in use [16:05] BluesKay ok please do not walk away I try it [16:05] sorry I am typing really slow from my tablet [16:06] np, take your time [16:06] damn I am so stupid, i have a lice cd running [16:06] wait I can reconnect from my PC [16:06] Hello [16:07] BluesKaj please wait for 2 minutes I reconnect [16:07] Did anybody install ttf-mscorefonts-installer? [16:07] I think after its installation my fonts in firefox has changed to bad fonts [16:07] Specially for Farsi letters === Reni3 is now known as Reni3_ [16:11] re [16:11] now I am connected using the live cd [16:11] momken, only if you're using default in system settings>application style>Gnome application>GTK themes>Font [16:12] choose a font there that works well and is readable in Firefox. momken [16:12] I am starting firefox so I can paste the output [16:14] BluesKaj: https://dpaste.de/2i8N/raw [16:14] momken, firefox links to GTK settings for fonts [16:14] BluesKaj: https://dpaste.de/7TO9/raw [16:15] Reni3_,umount /dev/sdb , then run e2fsck dev/sdb again [16:15] err /dev/sdb [16:16] that is what I tried / second paste shows the output [16:17] if there's a problem e2fsck will ask you if you want to fix [16:17] I figured it is /dev/sdb2 [16:17] Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type [16:17] /dev/sdb1 2048 15812607 15810560 7.6G 82 Linux swap / Solaris [16:17] /dev/sdb2 * 15812608 976771071 960958464 458.2G 83 Linux [16:17] ru df -h to see which one [16:17] BluesKaj: there is an even bigger problem [16:18] e2fsck says everything was okaz [16:18] okay [16:18] root@kubuntu:/home/kubuntu# e2fsck /dev/sdb2 [16:18] e2fsck 1.43.3 (04-Sep-2016) [16:18] /dev/sdb2: clean, 1701729/30031872 files, 28822136/120119808 blocks [16:21] Here is an what fsck does> [16:21] https://dpaste.de/QTF3/raw [16:22] oops my vpn disconnected [16:23] Reni3_: What does the system say when it drops you in the busybox? [16:23] lordievader: not all too much, I get a line that says initrms or something like this [16:24] I am just on the live cd so I am not totally sure [16:24] initramfs [16:24] yes, that [16:24] I always got a kernel panic when I typed exit [16:24] Reni3_: You can access the root filesystem just fine from the live-cd? [16:25] BluesKaj: After disabling the option in Firefox->Preferences->Content->Fonts&Colors->Advanced to "Allow pages to choose their own fonts, instead of my selections above" it became as before [16:25] lordievader, I had the same problem with 16.10 dual booting with windows 7 , must be a bug in grub [16:25] lordievader: I did not check that yet [16:25] lordievader: I am just running fsck.ext4 -c /dev/sdb2 [16:25] after this has finished, I can try to mount it [16:25] BluesKaj: It seems that many sites (like twitter) uses Microsoft fonts by default which can't be rendered properly in Kubuntu [16:26] BluesKaj: No, this can have many different causes. [16:26] Reni3_: Please do. [16:26] lordievader: while fsck.ext4 -c /dev/sdb2 is running_ [16:26] ? [16:27] momken_, use the gtk font option as I mentioned if you're not happy witht hdefault [16:27] Haha, no, after. Reni3_ [16:27] I am not used to this english keyboard [16:27] lordievader: ok, the test is at 4,67 % [16:27] I guess it will take 25 minutes [16:27] is this okay for you or do you want me to interrupt it? [16:28] Let it run, not sure if I will still be here 25 min later, but I'm sure others here can help you out. [16:28] BluesKaj: that is not changed and I guess it will not affect anything, because twitter chooses Arial (or other MS font) if available [16:28] See if you can mount it, if you can and still get into the busybox please make a screenshot of it. [16:28] lordievader: I just realized it would take too long [16:29] 5% needed 7 minutes [16:29] so 100% would need 140 minutes [16:29] I interrupt it [16:29] lordievader, busybox to initrams also mucked up my laptop bootup [16:29] on 16.;10 [16:30] yes I can access my harddrive [16:30] and 17.04 [16:30] lordievader: I mounted my hard drive [16:30] what now? [16:31] Reni3_: You have access to the systemfiles? [16:31] BluesKaj: Busybox is meant to troubleshoot the failed boot. Instead of just not booting it gives you a (minimal) shell to find out why it did not boot correctly. [16:32] lordievader: yes I have access to all system files [16:32] Reni3_: Okay, good. Reboot I guess. [16:32] shall I chroot into the system? [16:32] when I reboot now, it will take a long time until I can be here again because my computer is slow [16:33] Reni3_: Without any real clue on what the problem is... doesn't sound like the best idea. [16:33] ok then I try to reboot [16:33] yes anfd I fixed it with e2fsck 3 times on my laptop after booting fro windows to kubuntu [16:33] thank you lordievader and BluesKaj [16:34] one last question [16:34] can I boot into a command line faster with the kubuntu live cd or do I have to boot it into the graphical KDE envoironment_ [16:34] ? [16:34] this english keyboard drives me nuts [16:36] Reni3_: Add [16:36] 'text' to the kernel parameters. [16:36] That will disable the boot to a GUI, won't matter much, just a little. [16:37] where? [16:37] it booted graphically right away without giving me grub [16:37] Hold shift ;) [16:38] ok [16:38] lordievader: I have an important update [16:38] I ran> [16:38] umount /dev/sdb2 [16:38] then I ran again: fsck.ext4 -f /dev/sdb2 [16:38] and now I get many errors [16:38] errors that were not there before [16:38] Reni3_: sdb is the drive where the rootfs resides on? [16:39] yup, had the3same thing [16:39] errors on / and /home partitions [16:39] https://dpaste.de/nWR4/raw [16:39] is this now fixed_ [16:39] ? [16:39] Reni3_: Could you install 'smartmontools' and run 'sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb'? [16:40] yes [16:40] i won't see any errors [16:40] give me a moment I need to figure out if that works on the live cd [16:40] thank you for you help [16:42] lordievader: installed [16:42] sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb or sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb2 ? [16:43] /dev/sdb [16:43] smartctl is a tool which reads smart values of a disk, not a partition. [16:44] lordievader: https://dpaste.de/WJwB/raw [16:45] Reni3_: Luckily no reallocated sectors, but quite a few pending sectors (464). I'd replace the drive. Or at least make a backup. [16:46] lordievader: Do you think I can work with that drive for the next 4 days until my project is finished, or could it break at any time? [16:47] Reni3_: Nah, it should work. But it will only get worse from here on out. [16:47] Anyhow, reboot and see if you can boot into your os. [16:47] ok [16:47] thank you!!!! [16:47] see you soon I give you feedback [16:53] re [16:53] i am on my tablet again [16:53] o/ [16:53] initramfs when booting again [16:53] what now? [16:54] I can type into initramfs whatever you say [16:54] I can only not paste from there [16:54] but I can write you from my tablet what happens [16:54] Does your tablet have a camera? [16:55] yes [16:55] Can you make a screenshot? [16:55] !screenshot [16:55] Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imgur.com/ and link the created page here. [16:55] yes [16:55] maybe there is a misunderstanding [16:55] my tablet runs android and works perfectly [16:56] my laptop is busted [16:56] so I am now typing on my tablet because i have no other pc [16:56] Reni3: Yes, I know. [16:56] I can take a photo and upload it [16:56] And I'd like to see what the laptop shows. [16:56] PrtScr won't work [16:56] Take the term screenshot a bit broader ;) [16:57] yes I can take a photo [16:59] https://filebin.net/re4jxbqekrzlyofe/20170224_175808.jpg [16:59] Ah, very informative indeed :( [16:59] Is lsblk available? And if so, does it list your drive? [17:00] lsblk is not available [17:00] did I type it correctly? [17:00] lsblk [17:00] smart didn't find anything wrong on my hdds after the intramfs/busybox, on both my pc and laptop, so i installed the 17.04 beta1 ..no more busybox . and i put neon-kde on my laptop , no more busy box [17:01] I wrote exit and hit enter [17:02] now I have a kernel panic [17:02] Reni3: Yeah, don't do that. [17:03] Reni3: Rather run 'ls /dev' and see if there is an sda in there. [17:03] the shops close in 1 hour - should I get a new hard drive and install a new kubuntu? [17:03] Reni3: That is the easy way out ;) [17:03] is it 100% sure that it is the hard drive? [17:04] and not something else [17:04] In this case it is something else. But the drive is dying. [17:04] 'blkid' should be available. [17:04] how can you know it is dying? [17:04] Reni3: Smart told be. [17:05] me* [17:05] ok [17:05] blkid is available [17:05] Pending sectors and reallocated sectors are sign's of dying disks. [17:05] maybe i mistaped it [17:05] Reni3: No, blkid and lsblk are different commands ;) Anyhow, does blkid show your disk? [17:06] https://filebin.net/re4jxbqekrzlyofe/20170224_180548.jpg [17:08] Reni3: What is the output of 'ls /'? [17:08] when I reinstall kubuntu - is 16.10 okay? because BluesKay said 17.04 solved it for him [17:08] ls -l shows me my / directory [17:09] Reni3: I know, the root of the initramfs. I'd want to know where it expects the sysroot to be mounted. [17:10] 17.04 beta1 , is a devel OS , Reni3 , it's not stable , but there no disk erroes [17:12] https://filebin.net/re4jxbqekrzlyofe/20170224_181105.jpg [17:12] I am going to buy a new hard drive === lethu__ is now known as lethu [17:13] BluesKaj if I install 16.10 on a new hard drive, will i get errors again then? [17:13] Reni3: You could try mounting the root-fs to /root and then running: exec switch_root -c /dev/console /root /sbin/init [17:14] ho can i mount the root fs to /root? [17:14] how [17:15] i must leave really soon if i want to get an hard drive today, the stores close in 45 minutes [17:15] mount /dev/sda2 /root [17:15] Then go, this can be done later too ;) [17:16] ok i run [17:17] lordievader and bluesKaj THANK YOU [17:17] sorry that I leave but a new hard drive seems to be the best choice to save my working night [17:18] I messsage you when all is safe and sound again [17:18] have a great day! === kubuntu is now known as Guest83911 [17:19] I'm still skeptical , but if you believe the smartmontools then it's your call [17:22] I'd rather loose some money than loose data. [17:24] loose data, better tighten it down so you don't lose it :-) [17:24] same for your money === pavlushka is now known as KindThree [17:26] Oh, whoops. === KindThree is now known as pavlushka === forest is now known as klinec === forest is now known as klinec [18:10] Bonsoir [18:11] Hi sep [18:11] sepson ;-) [18:11] j aimerais savoir si sous Ubuntu il est possible d installer Open ? [18:13] !fr | sepson [18:13] sepson: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [18:15] ou PPTP/isec [18:15] openvpn , yes === sepson__ is now known as sepson_ [18:15] Depuis un NAS Qnap ? [18:16] pptp is not secure, and it's old [18:16] Qnap? [18:16] Nas Qnap [18:17] j'aimerais me connecter de mon ordinateur sur mon NAS en openvpn [18:18] sepson_, reagarde, ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [18:18] ok merci desolé :-( [19:17] re [19:19] I just finished installing Kubuntu 16.10 on a brand new hard drive as my old one was kind of dying [19:19] now I got 2 problems: [19:19] 1) my WIFI worked during the installation. Now, _after_ the installation has finished and after I booted into the real system, WIFI does not work any more. The "Connect" button is inactive. [19:20] 2) my USB mouse does not work. [19:20] these 2 problems bug me === papa is now known as Guest88002 === Guest88002 is now known as papa_ === papa_ is now known as Guest88002 [20:06] Reni3: What is the output of 'sudo rfkill list'? [20:06] lordievader! [20:06] nice to see you again! [20:06] o/ [20:07] 0: phy0: Wireless LAN [20:07] Soft blocked: no [20:07] Hard blocked: no [20:07] lordievader, you should know, that I ran "rfkill unblock wifi" just 1 minute ago [20:07] So it does detect it... What is the actual problem? [20:07] Right ;) [20:08] lordievader, the problem is, that when I click the WIFI icon at the right bottom side of my screen (next to the clock) I cannot connect [20:08] let me explain that a little better: [20:08] Right Click => Configure Network Connections => [20:08] Then I click on the Connection which is already listed there as I was connected to my WIFI during the installation [20:09] but the [CONNECT] button remains inactive (not clickable) [20:09] remove the listing [20:09] Reni3: What does journalctl show during connecting? [20:09] I also ran: [20:09] sudo ubuntu-drivers list [20:09] then try again to have it search for your wifi [20:09] sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall [20:09] sudo ubuntu-drivers devices [20:10] lordievader, journalctl gives an extreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeemly large output that does not seem to end [20:10] sintre, I feel like that does not work [20:10] did you try it? [20:10] yes [20:11] maybe I am looking at the wrong plac [20:11] then it didn't work [20:11] Reni3: No, it is the systemlogger, I only want the stuff related to NetworkManager. [20:11] * Reni3 has a look at ifconfig [20:12] if this is a new install , maybe it would be best to start over , when installing DON'T select install updates when installing and connect [20:12] that seems to be root of problem [20:12] https://dpaste.de/yWhB/raw [20:13] you really want me to reinstall that all?! [20:13] Reni3: PLease do pastebin an excerpt of journalctl. [20:13] ok lordievader [20:14] I cannot get the whole output [20:14] Reni3> well could be better use of time , than going in circles , and if after it doesn't work we know to look at probally driver issues [20:14] I must press ENTER to see more [20:14] and then I press enter enter enter all the time, and at the end, the first lines are gone [20:14] Reni3: run 'sudo journalctl -f' then connect, select the NM stuff and pastebin that. [20:15] I am just pastebinning the first [20:15] https://dpaste.de/Enwh/raw [20:16] here is the smaller output [20:16] https://dpaste.de/z0bZ/raw [20:17] During that second paste did you try to connect? [20:17] no my connect button is disabled!! [20:17] it's greyed out [20:17] I cannot click it [20:17] can I connect via command line? [20:18] Check 'sudo rfkill list' output again. [20:18] 0: phy0: Wireless LAN [20:19] Soft blocked: no [20:19] Hard blocked: no [20:19] Wut? [20:19] lordievader, erm... maybe I should tell you more at this point: [20:19] as I could not connect via WIFI, I took my tablet (which is connected to my WIFI) [20:19] and I connected my tablet to my Laptop via USB [20:20] then I used the USB tethering to bring my Laptop online [20:20] so basically my laptop thinks it was connected to the internet via LAN [20:20] in reality it's more like this: [20:20] Reni3: So? That should not matter. [20:20] (Internet) => (WLAN-Router) => (Tablet) => via USB => to Laptop [20:21] Reni3: Could you make a screenshot of your NM wiget [20:21] widget* [20:22] NM widget? [20:22] what is that? [20:22] the thing next to the clock which I try to connect with? [20:22] http://imgur.com/ [20:22] Yeah, the thing where you connect to wireless networks, etc. [20:22] yes hold on [20:22] right click on the network icon bottom right of screen and open the configuration up [20:22] hit prnt screen key and picture should be inside picture folder [20:23] yes - 1 moment please [20:23] it saved the screenshot but I do not know where [20:24] Probably in ~/Pictures [20:24] open dolphin [20:24] '~' being your homedir ;) [20:24] found it [20:24] kde4 is really complicated ^.^ [20:24] 16.10 has plasma5, right? [20:25] no idea [20:25] Doesn't matter ;) [20:25] I just switched to KDE 4 from KDE 3 [20:26] https://filebin.net/0p79p17nh563wasc/Screenshot_20170224_212418.png [20:27] https://filebin.net/0p79p17nh563wasc/Screenshot_20170224_212605.png [20:27] the first screenshot looks weird [20:28] Does your laptop have those wifi-or-lan switches? A bios switch which allows only one to operate at a time? [20:28] actually I do not think so [20:28] my wifi always worked [20:28] lordievader, you know my story, I only switched my hard drive [20:28] what brand computer your lappy? [20:28] toshiba satellite [20:29] Reni3: Okay, what does 'sudo iw dev wlp5s0 scan' output? [20:29] fn + f8 [20:29] see if that turns it on [20:30] sintre: Hardware switch didn't kill it ;) rfkill would show that. [20:30] sintre, did not work [20:30] hmm [20:30] * sintre scratches head [20:30] root@linux:/# sudo iw dev wlp5s0 scan [20:30] command failed: Network is down (-100) [20:30] maybe also good to know: [20:30] according to lspci: [20:30] 05:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) [20:30] I installed ndiswrapper [20:31] and tried to find a commercial driver but could not find the right one [20:31] Reni3: Rfkill doesn't show it as blocked? [20:31] no [20:31] Ndiswrapper is seldomly necessary anymore. [20:31] Reni3: sudo ip l s wlp5s0 up && sudo iw dev wlp5s0 scan [20:32] root@linux:/# sudo ip l s wlp5s0 up && sudo iw dev wlp5s0 scan [20:32] RTNETLINK answers: Operation not possible due to RF-kill [20:32] So there is an rfkill at play. [20:35] Hello? [20:35] Reni3: Unblock it ;) [20:35] hi here [20:36] Either through hardware or software, depending on the kind. [20:37] I know what happened [20:37] fn + f8 [20:37] that was the moment when I blocked it [20:37] As I figured [20:37] now it's unblocked, I pressed the buttons again [20:37] root@linux:/# sudo ip l s wlp5s0 up && sudo iw dev wlp5s0 scan [20:37] command failed: Device or resource busy (-16) [20:37] Reni3: What does the scan tell you? [20:37] Reni3: Give it a bit and rerun the command. [20:37] root@linux:/# sudo ip l s wlp5s0 up && sudo iw dev wlp5s0 scan [20:37] root@linux:/# [20:38] it returns nothing [20:38] You can run the scan command separately now ;) [20:38] root@linux:/# sudo iw dev wlp5s0 scan [20:38] root@linux:/# [20:38] Hmmm [20:38] it does not return anything [20:38] It is a laptop right? [20:38] yes [20:39] Does it return nothing if your are next to the access point? [20:40] the access point is directly next to the laptop [20:40] 15 cm [20:40] Ah [20:42] http://askubuntu.com/questions/452315/problems-with-realtek-rtl8188ee-on-14-04 might help you... [20:43] ren3 > can you try laptop with a live cd or media? [20:43] reni3 sry [20:44] sintre, it works with the live cd. I used the live cd to install kubuntu [20:44] lordievader, thank you I try it [20:44] if it work live then as i recomended start over [20:44] this gizmo type set up is confused something somewhere [20:45] so probally a update problem somwhere [20:45] ok [20:46] if lordievader's solution from stackoverflow does not work, I will re-install [20:46] its your time not mine [20:46] gl either way [20:47] I expect that Reni3 will run into the same problem after updating his new install. Since that is what the checkbox does... [20:47] *her [20:47] I am just installing the needed things in apt-get [20:48] lordievader > not looking to have a pissin contest over trouble shooting tactics for her sake i hope your recommendation works [20:48] but i'm kind of lets not spend hours running in circle kind of person [20:49] Agreed [20:49] * Reni3 runs "make" [20:50] Reni3: Good luck. [20:51] thank you [21:00] lordievader, I followed the stackoverflow posting [21:00] it went well - no errors [21:01] what should I do now? [21:01] restart?! === claydoh is now known as Guest58689 === Guest58689 is now known as claydoh [21:06] I start over with the installation [21:06] sintre? [21:06] is there anything I should take care of while installing? [21:06] the WIFI network was available _while_ installing [21:06] don't [21:06] what should I take care of, when I start over? [21:07] uncheck that , and don't update while installing [21:07] only third party extras [21:07] I could not click the 3rd party extras [21:07] they were disabled [21:07] don't even have the pc hooked up [21:07] I remember the checkboxes [21:07] to anything [21:07] one was at top (the 3rd party extras) [21:07] except an ac outlet [21:07] and one checkbox was below (the wifi) [21:07] no do not connect to internet during install [21:07] ok [21:08] we'll update later [21:08] make sure you have your touters poasskey handy [21:08] routers [21:08] you said: [21:08] only third party extras [21:08] the checkbox was disabled [21:08] I could not check it [21:08] check that! [21:08] :) [21:08] it allows you to watch movie and media and such [21:08] disabled means: "it's not possible to check it" [21:09] um what? [21:09] wait, maybe I can find a screenshot on google images [21:09] btw what iso are you using for install? [21:10] the 64 bit desktop iso [21:10] 16.10 [21:10] I checked the md5sum after downloading, and verified the burned data [21:11] k i personally use 16.04.1 [21:11] 16.04.2 just got released the other day [21:11] that's what I used before (when the harddrive broke) [21:11] if you get the no option for unrestrited extras again [21:11] I thought using the newest iso would be good [21:11] go back [21:11] sometimjes for some machines it is [21:11] can I install them now? [21:11] I forgot the name of it, but I remember that it was something like: [21:12] the extras yes [21:12] kubuntu-restricted-extras [21:12] I think that was the name [21:12] if your installing it should be an option [21:12] i think something happend with your upgrade [21:12] i again recomend fresh install [21:12] yes I do it [21:12] ok I am off [21:12] thank you [21:13] thank you sintre [21:13] gl i'll be around after your done [21:13] thank you lordievader [21:13] stop the world [21:13] np Reni3 [21:13] thank will take about 30 - 45 minutes [21:14] Reni3 you gotcha [21:14] fuck [21:15] she hasn't done anything yet , she's just downloading iso atm i believe [21:15] buriedalive: Please watch the swearing, channel is supposed to be PG [21:15] buriedalive, no need for that language [21:16] sorry me people [21:17] BluesKaj sup [21:18] I could not help it, and tried to reboot before starting over [21:18] wifi works now [21:18] lol [21:18] gz [21:19] i guess it was the stackoverflow posting [21:19] :-D [21:19] i also remember i said to unhook from your gizmo set up [21:19] so rdy to update what you got then? [21:19] so we should all keep in mind: even though windows and linux are not the same, when it comes to a good old reboot, they can be quite alike [21:19] calling it a day folks...take care [21:19] sintre, rdy? what is that? [21:19] i'm glad to see ya [21:19] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports [21:20] rdy is short for ready [21:20] I added that manually already [21:20] ok then sudo apt update [21:20] then sudo apt full-upgrade [21:20] wait I upload my sources.list [21:20] yes I also updated it already [21:20] and did an apt-get upgrade [21:21] seems your good to go then [21:21] Reni3: You should not put PPA entries directly into your main sources.list [21:21] how to full ubuntumaniac? he is write to sudo permanently :) [21:22] deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety main restricted universe multiverse [21:22] deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-updates main restricted universe multiverse [21:22] deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-security main restricted universe multiverse [21:22] deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu yakkety-backports main restricted universe multiverse [21:22] this is my sources.list [21:22] is anything missing? [21:23] ... [21:23] !pastebin [21:23] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.kde.org | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [21:23] got it much [21:23] ..for next time [21:23] ok [21:25] Reni3 > any other config issues you miight need help with [21:25] sintre, yes my mouse [21:26] blu tooth wireless / wired? [21:26] it would be really mouse if I could use my nice [21:26] vice versa [21:26] it's a USB mouse [21:26] so it doesn't auto detect when you plug it in? [21:26] no [21:27] ok err, i know this sounds bad but you probally are still staring at a reinstall [21:27] so get to downloading [21:27] try all usb ports? [21:27] If you're plugging it into a USB3 port ( usually blue) try USB2 [21:27] the same problem with all ports [21:27] second if you have a second mouse that you xcan test would be helpful as well [21:27] I ran a tail -f /var/log/syslog [21:28] cheers! [21:28] sintre, I only have 1 mouse - it worked until I set up my computer from new [21:28] something happend with your install reni3 [21:28] or upgrade [21:28] I ran = Iran :-D [21:28] not even being able to detect a mouse is very unusual [21:29] https://dpaste.de/TEhO/raw [21:29] it detects the mouse [21:29] but it does not work [21:29] my touchpad works [21:29] ok if you know that mouse works [21:29] and its not working again same issue with your wifi [21:30] Reni3: Please try: unplug the mouse. Wait 15 seconds. Replug the mouse. Wait 15 seconds. Then issue: dmesg| tail -n25 ...and put the results into a pastebin which we can go see [21:30] genii, ok [21:30] my mouese it does work tooo [21:30] unplugged [21:31] buriedalive> seems you've had some drinks but in a trouble shooting session random pointless comments don't help [21:31] sintre f little bit jokes today [21:32] buriedalive: If you are not assisting a user, or receiving assistance, it's better not to annoy others with nonsense [21:32] https://dpaste.de/swDK/raw [21:33] I'm here long time [21:33] buriedalive: For nonsense, we have the #kubuntu-offtopic channel. [21:33] after unplugging it did it work? [21:33] as genii suggested [21:33] sintre, no it did not work [21:33] just please [21:33] download the iso over again [21:34] if we can figure it out without a reinstall we will , but at this point i don't trust your install [21:34] * genii sips [21:34] Interesting. The system sees your mouse as a keyboard [21:34] oh damn [21:34] wait [21:34] yea at this point , plus wifi works rnadomly [21:34] i think safest bet now is reinstall [21:35] god [21:35] when I tell you something [21:35] You might want to update the usb id list [21:35] please, please promise you won't hate on me [21:35] we promise what [21:35] why? [21:35] ok I will tell you anyway [21:35] when genii said: [21:35] Interesting. The system sees your mouse as a keyboard [21:35] buriedalive> don't push us [21:36] I realized that I had my keyboard plugged it, rather than my mouse [21:36] when plugging in the mouse, it works all of a sudden [21:36] lol ok does the mouse work now [21:36] :) [21:36] yes! [21:36] sorry [21:36] success! [21:36] !!! [21:36] yeeeah [21:36] buriedalive: If you persist in being annoying, you will give me no choice but to give you a small ban [21:36] np happy ending kinda [21:36] sintre puch ti you? :) [21:36] but pls still download that iso for backup sake [21:36] last problem: [21:36] aptitude search google-chrome [21:37] genii > i can't commubnicate with this fool [21:37] ^ gives no results [21:37] warned 6 times now [21:37] Work, AFK a bit [21:37] so you want to install google chrome? [21:37] sintre, yes, the original one [21:37] not chromium [21:38] hmm not sure the difference [21:38] hmm might need to wait around a bit === lethu_ is now known as lethu [21:38] i don't use the broswer so i don't know the name exactly [21:40] https://betanews.com/2016/09/25/how-to-install-google-chrome-ubuntu-linux/ [21:40] thank you! [21:40] best thing i could find [21:40] I would like to thank all of you [21:40] especially sintre, lordievader and also genii [21:40] np remember to come back :) [21:40] you saved me ass several times today [21:40] and stop by kubuntu-offtopic as well [21:41] ok! [21:56] is it okay to remove the package "kubuntu-settings-desktop" ? [21:56] Is that a meta package that can be removed safely? [21:56] what is asking you to remove it? [21:57] https://dpaste.de/pgQ9/raw [21:57] ok did you run the apt full-upgrade command [21:58] that will remove and replace packages as needed [21:58] after adding the new repository? [21:58] yes [21:58] I ran it before I added the new repo [21:58] run it now [21:58] first apt update [21:58] sudo apt update [21:58] then sudo apt-full-upgrade [21:59] new repo is where you need the packages from [21:59] I suppose you mean: [21:59] apt-get full-upgrade [21:59] no [21:59] sudo apt update [22:00] the get command isn't needed in new apt [22:00] apt-full-upgrade is not a command [22:00] stop witht eh dashes [22:00] sudo apt update [22:00] copy and past that exactly [22:01] that's a normal update! [22:01] of course I ran that! [22:01] after I added the repo [22:01] now sudo apt full-upgrade that gave me 3 upgraded and 1 new package [22:02] hit y [22:03] I did and installed it [22:03] and now your all up to date , new stuff lands weekly at min [22:03] so run same commands later in week [22:03] I still receive the same error with the stuff that caused the problem originally [22:03] and don't just go around deleting stuff :) [22:03] ok what error is this [22:04] the same as before [22:04] wait I paste it [22:04] https://dpaste.de/Tzmd/raw [22:05] ok something is weird here [22:05] https://dpaste.de/Yq69/raw [22:05] really redownload the iso and get ready to reinstall [22:05] thats not an error lol [22:05] just hit yes [22:05] I guess this is a 3rd party repo problem [22:06] its just telling you it has to remove packages [22:06] sintre, are you aware that this will remove a package? [22:06] yes its supposed to [22:06] The following packages will be REMOVED: [22:06] kubuntu-settings-desktop [22:06] they aren't relevant to the new apps [22:06] just click yes [22:06] will KDE 4 die because of this? [22:06] it will REPLACE it [22:06] it will be fine pls trust me on this one [22:06] let's see [22:07] * Reni3 runs it [22:07] downloading near 1 GB now [22:07] thank you sintre [22:07] after its finished reboot and rejoin us [22:07] np i know it scary sometimes using terminal like this but it gets easier :) [22:08] I am leaving and brb [22:08] thank you again! [22:41] re [22:41] the installation was successful [22:41] I have one more question I'd like to ask [22:41] go for it [22:42] as you probably got to know, my old hard drive caused some trouble today, why I replaced it with a new one [22:42] however, the old hard drive can still be mounted [22:42] I bought a device that let's me connect my laptop's old 2,5" hard drive to my laptop via USB [22:43] this way, I would like to read the data from the harddrive [22:43] ok use that it should auto find it [22:43] https://dpaste.de/MAdz/raw [22:43] and basicly copy ands paste data from funky drive to new one [22:43] theyes but the device is not recognized (see paste) [22:43] ok go to lil k at vbottom [22:43] ? [22:43] what [22:44] then system then dolphin [22:44] at bottom left corner there is a lil k [22:44] what is "lil k" and what is "vbottom" ? [22:44] k and a lil stuff around them is your menu lol [22:44] the K menu? [22:44] bottom left [22:44] yes [22:44] ah! lil = little? [22:44] yes i abreviate alot sry [22:44] dolphin is open [22:45] ok click on the connected drive [22:45] nah 'ts gd t shrtn thngs [22:45] it should mount it and give you acess if the drive isn't completely defective [22:45] the device is not listed there as it is not recognized [22:45] I pasted you the output of tail -f /var/log/syslog [22:45] then its not mounted [22:45] and it gives an error [22:46] it's not mountable [22:46] https://dpaste.de/MAdz/raw [22:46] so is this a cable or an external hdd you got it in [22:47] its seeing something is connected [22:47] sintre, it's a special device to connect internal harddrives externally [22:47] thats basicly a cable with a cheap controller i assume [22:47] Hm, jmicron [22:47] one take it out [22:47] and make sure the conecction is very snug [22:48] then make sure to plug it back into a 2.0 usb port on your laptop [22:48] https://img.conrad.at/medias/global/ce/5000_5999/5900/5930/5933/1277995_AB_01_FB.EPS_1000.jpg [22:48] Reni3: The drive itself... is it a SATA connector or older IDE ribbon type connector? ( but smaller since it's a 2.5" laptop drive) [22:49] genii, not sure how to tell the difference [22:49] If IDE, then aside from the usb-storage driver which Ubuntu would normally load for such things, the pata-jmicron driver may need to be manually loaded [22:49] look at the drive [22:50] I try to find a google image that looks the same [22:50] brb [22:50] look at the drive with your eyes and see what it says :) [22:50] Reni3: Left or right kind of connector? http://cdn.makeuseof.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/SATA03.png [22:50] once you get back and all [22:51] no genii [22:51] genii, https://vanguardgamingsite.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/sata-drive.jpg [22:51] Yes, so SATA [22:51] ok and your gizmo is for sata drives [22:51] so unplug make sure it snug [22:52] then plug back into a usba 2.0 port on laptop [22:52] thats like a plug and play external controler gizmo [22:52] I unplugged and replugged it and nothing happened [22:52] if this doesnt't work i would suggest a cheap 120 dollar exernal enxclosure [22:52] Odd that dmesg says linux kernel: [ 4843.774330] usb 3-1: Product: USB to ATA/ATAPI bridge [22:52] i mean 20 dollars sry [22:52] not even the syslog says anything [22:53] can you confirm you gizmo works with another sata drive? [22:53] sintre, it's from Conrad, that's a tech store who really knows what they sell [22:53] sintre, it's the only sata drive I have [22:54] well they may know something , but without another hdd to test [22:54] we can't confirm if its dead or you have a bad gizmo [22:54] I see [22:55] Mostaaaafaaaa was removed by: Mostaaaafaaaa [22:55] https://www.amazon.com/Upgraded-Sabrent-2-5-Inch-Enclosure-EC-UK30/dp/B00LS31KQG/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1487976892&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=notebook+hdd+enxlosure [22:55] something like this [22:55] 10-15 bucks [22:55] i would invest before you toss the drive [22:55] i have 3 , not this one but similar [22:55] ok [22:55] thank you1 [22:56] Reni3: Please unplug it, wait 15 seconds. Then issue: sudo modprobe jmicron ...then replug it, wait 15 seconds. Then: dmesg|tail -n25 ..to a pastebin for us [22:57] genii, modprobe: FATAL: Module jmicron not found in directory /lib/modules/4.8.0-39-generic [22:57] From looking into the vendor:device it looks like it has some combo SATA/PATA to USB chipset [22:58] if you can return gizmo and get a pure sata exernal [22:58] what i would do [22:58] so the problem is that it features both? [22:58] no idea , gizmo could be defective , but the hdd could also be trashed [22:59] Reni3: Try instead then: sudo modprobe pata-jmicron [22:59] might as well elimate one possability [22:59] ( and then the dmesg and pastebin) [23:00] genii, https://dpaste.de/Sgpj/raw [23:01] Well, at least it's not trying to use MTP now [23:02] try to use dolphin to access it [23:02] sintre, what in god name would that change? [23:02] testing [23:02] when no device is assigned to it at all [23:03] tail -f /var/log/syslog would be the first place to look [23:03] sintre: It disconnected again, had some issue trying to query it [23:03] if that does not assign any /dev/ device, how would dolphin know how to use it? [23:03] once there is a device, I can mount /dev/whatever /mount/to/ [23:03] that's the same dolphin does [23:03] similar [23:06] ok how about this , if no other hdd , do you have another system you can plug your gizmo and hdd into? [23:06] you said you have a tablet [23:06] do you have a micro usb adapter? [23:07] no micro usb adapter around [23:07] what I wonder: [23:08] there is no drivers CD being shipped with the device [23:08] it would work out of the box like a normal external HD [23:08] all my external enclosure and cables work out the box [23:09] i think you need to get to store and trade out your gizmo [23:09] Hm, error 62 is apparently it took too long to respond [23:09] damn it [23:09] genii! [23:09] it works [23:09] I unplugged it [23:09] and re-plugged it [23:09] and unplugged it [23:09] and replugged it [23:09] and now I got a device assigned [23:09] how can this be? [23:09] whoot [23:10] I am now immediately backing up the HD [23:10] Maybe give it longer than usual for it to get settled. [23:10] now get to recovering data while it lasts [23:10] future reference [23:10] https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812400542&cm_re=laptop_hdd_conversion_cable-_-12-400-542-_-Product [23:10] cab'e like this is all you need for recover i got a couple around :) [23:10] https://dpaste.de/F0Jc/raw [23:11] thank you again [23:11] I am now running the backup [23:12] Reni3 welcome it was genii who got this one and some luck [23:12] we love happy endings here [23:12] as often we end up into stone walls [23:21] I'm suspecting the pata-jmicron module is required in this case to make the computer see it as a hard drive and not some camera/phone MTP device, but that it just takes a little while to spin up and become available [23:21] yea odd gizmo [23:23] Reni3: If you are going to be using this adapter much, you may want to put in the file /etc/modules the line: pata-jmicron ( or maybe with underscore when in there instead of dash, I forget right now) [23:23] ...this will load the driver automatically at boot so you don't need to do the modprobe command every time [23:31] Reni3: Also, you may want to issue: sudo update-usbids ( this grabs the latest list of usb device ids and their associated mappings to drivers, etc) [23:32] she might be moving her entire music collection atm lol [23:33] hopefully she gets it , whole thing started with this drive failing [23:33] The touchpad is too sensitive. How do I make this less sensitive? [23:35] can go to mouse settings and manuall change respons times [23:38] http://imgur.com/a/8nS4X [23:40] sintre: almost everything is the same. What about sensitive for touchpad settings? [23:41] under utlities do you have a program called kmousetool? [23:42] seems to be a disability aid of sort [23:42] might be able to change settings better i dunno [23:42] Nope. [23:42] This is a laptop [23:42] mine are as well [23:42] hmm [23:42] Okay [23:43] its installed but i don't have it active not sure if it would even help [23:43] but using my touchpads normally the acceleration speed is what sets the cursor apart [23:44] sintre: nothing in touchpad settings will help? [23:44] faster i go faster cursor moves , and i know or believe that can be adjusted [23:44] lmao i just noticed touch pad settings lol [23:44] maybe let me loo if i can change anything on this system [23:46] http://imgur.com/a/7j5h1 [23:46] go here [23:49] Changed that [23:49] try the sensisitivty tab [23:50] i really don't have a clue beyond that [23:50] both my laptops seem to work reasonably well [23:50] touchpad wise out the gate [23:50] Show your settings and then I will try this out [23:50] one sec [23:52] http://imgur.com/a/1ixs5 [23:53] Done thanks [23:53] np [23:54] How do I improve the distro. [23:54] ? [23:54] you mean update it to latest? [23:54] packages and all [23:54] or help work on distro [23:55] Nope. I mean just improve elements here and there [23:55] get to work lol [23:56] if you want to modifie the gui for yourself [23:56] Lol [23:56] then plsma ripe for that so again read forum posts and things [23:56] if you want to talk to developers [23:56] go to kubuntu-devel [23:56] but be polite and ask where you can help out [23:57] Not that far :) [23:57] one thing is finding bugs and reporting them [23:58] that can help alot [23:58] so as you go thru your normal usage find something odd or off or could be improved putting that up on the forums can be a big help [23:59] Yep [23:59] well time for me to grab some dinner , see you around later if your on [23:59] I have changed a lot recently