[16:49] <RFleming> Hellooooo Canada!
[17:51]  * genii slides RFleming a large Timmies
[17:51] <RFleming> genii: For you I did it...
[17:52] <RFleming> I installed Neon, and used it for a month
[17:52] <genii> Hah
[17:52] <RFleming> I hated it
[17:52] <RFleming> but I tried
[17:53] <genii> Well, different desktops for different people and their workflow :) Important thing is we have a world of choice of desktops in Linux
[17:53] <RFleming> But it's come a long way since the poop they released when 4 came out.
[17:53] <RFleming> genii: I thought I'd give it an honest go.  I've been using XFCE for ages, and started looking for a new DE as they all evolve
[17:54] <RFleming> I used MATE for a bit, but it wasn't pretty enough.
[17:54] <RFleming> used Budgie for a while, but I was nit-picky about it.  It's still developing so I'll try it again in a year or so
[17:54] <genii> There's a new Ubuntu flavour which a lot of people seem enthusiastic over but I have not tried, myself, Budgie
[17:54] <RFleming> (it'll be interesting as they de-couple from GTK+ and GNOME and move to the QT libraries)
[17:55] <genii> Hm, yes
[17:55] <RFleming> It'll still be for GNOME, but not use the underpinnings
[17:56] <RFleming> I'm paraphrasing, but the developer said something about spending too much time trying to convince the underpinning layers that Budgie is GNOME-Shell
[17:56] <genii> Heh
[17:57] <RFleming> and when the GNOME group makes changes to the APIs and such, lots of stuff breaks; so they're moving to a more 'mature' framework... but still will be all about GNOME apps and such
[17:58] <RFleming> ... speaking of GNOME; it surprised me
[17:58] <RFleming> I've (unbelievably) switched
[18:07] <genii> I run different desktops on different machines here, they all have their merits for different things