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diploMorning all08:02
SuperMattmorning08:23
davmor2Morning all09:14
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:20
ging_i did a bad thing10:05
ging_i installed linux mint10:05
ging_then i installed ubuntu desktop to it10:05
ging_and selected lightdm and the window manager10:05
ging_and now i have unity, with a weird mix of mint10:06
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gingdoes anyone know of a good way to fully unmint it?10:10
davmor2ging: why would you do that?10:10
gingi started a new job10:11
gingfirst day i was given a linux mint usb stick to setup my machine10:11
gingi thought i would give it a go10:11
gingbut i had enough10:13
gingi need to figure out how to unmint grub10:15
gingthe mint luks decrypt screen does not work properly10:16
gingwhen you type in your password it does into some other terminal10:17
gingin clear text10:17
gingso i have to boot, then reboot so it falls back to a simple decrypt screen10:18
gingwhich thanksfully does work10:18
gingi am scared to just uninstall mint-common10:20
gingmy biggest problem is i did something to my x settings to make it controlled by nvidia10:24
gingand i can't get to the unity screen settings10:25
gingso i can't turn off the sticky menu thing10:25
gingdconf write /org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/unityshell/launcher-capture-mouse false10:27
ging:(10:27
gingthat does work though10:28
gingbut none of this has cured my origonal problem, which was clicking and dragging stuff makes applications die10:38
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davmor2ging: just install ubuntu then use the debs on the usb pendrive to install anything you need for work :)  A potential solution at least11:15
popeyging: I'd be inclined to nuke and install ubuntu tbh11:27
awilkinsging, Likewise. My advice would be back up your home folder (and maybe /etc) and nuke and restore. I keep my home folders on a separate partition just so I can do this at a moment's notice.11:30
awilkinsWhen I upgraded to xenial something completely bricked my OS, was back up and running again after a 20 minute install with all my files and settings intact because of this.11:31
gingit seems to have worked suprisingly well13:18
gingjust not fixed any of my origonal issues13:19
gingexcept the one that i didnt like mint13:19
popeygiven that some things just don't work on mint that should, I'd nuke it13:36
diddledanI've never liked mint - they frankenstein ubuntu repos with their own repo where their repo has _some_ stuff recompiled or differently versioned so anything from ubuntu which you expect to work with something you've installed from mint will fail - e.g. I had an issue where mint had separately compiled apache or php and apache-modules or php-modules failed to13:39
diddledanwork with it because they hadn't maintained ABI13:39
diddledanI forget whether it was apache or php - or both13:40
diddledanooh, doctor strange is out16:25
diddledangotta love a bit of cumerbund16:26
diddledancumberbund?16:26
diddledanhow do you spell that?16:27
davmor2diddledan: yeah cumberland is awesome chips and eggs16:52
diddledanmm, sausage16:52
diddledansausage spiral no less!16:52
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daftykinsdiddledan: how's the SMART data look on that drive post zero?18:40
diddledandaftykins: it says no errors now18:40
daftykinssmartctl output or nothing ;D18:41
diddledanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24060254/18:42
daftykinsooh no remaps or anything, not too bad... so based on its' power on hours you could use it as a kinda general storage you don't really care about sort of drive, or a testing one - but definitely nothing live18:44
diddledan:-)18:53
daftykinsdiddledan: warning, cat torture - https://i.imgur.com/yaG5abA.gifv18:54
diddledan:-o18:56
diddledanpoor kitty :-(18:57
diddledanmoar gentoo security patches tonight18:58
daftykins:D18:59
diddledanmysql and php18:59
diddledan\o/18:59
davmor2daftykins: You know the is my cat planning to kill gag....in this case could we claim justifiable homicide19:02
daftykins:>19:02
diddledanI really should turn on my lights19:05
diddledansitting in the glow of monitors only is a bit haxx0rish19:05
diddledanwhere's my hoodie?19:05
* diddledan wanders off to find the hoodie19:05
daftykinsyep hood up please19:06
daftykins:D19:06
daftykinsdiddledan: i caught this magic timing yesterday - http://i.imgur.com/TJMdRhw.jpg19:18
daftykinstail to the face!19:18
diddledanlol19:18
diddledanfloof19:18
daftykinsthey've been watching the outside world, which right now they're not permitted to experience...19:18
diddledanaww :-( are they going cabin feverish?19:19
daftykinsnah, huge house - i think it's more the kitten curiosity and "how can be do more things that the human staff will worry over us for doing?"19:20
daftykinsany of you guys have a really really tough time adjusting to some new specs, before? i've never found it this tough19:20
daftykinsi could see distant stuff like the TV from my sofa perfectly immediately, but i couldn't even read my laptop on my lap in front of me for a while o019:21
diddledannope, but I have a fairly simple prescription19:21
daftykinsit's improved a bit now, but i almost have to look slightly off to the side to see irssi's text clearly, very offputting19:21
daftykinsah, lucky, i'm on -10 in one eye now19:21
zmoylan-pii have had new specs drive me bonkers.  it's was like they set the focal point a different distance than i was used to...19:56
zmoylan-pihad to move all my screens and keyboards to make space for printed documentation19:56
daftykins:(19:56
zmoylan-pii put it down to merely been from a family with crap eyesight and probably time for bifocals19:57
daftykinsoof19:57
zmoylan-pii've carried a monocular for reading bus numbers since i was in early 20s. even with glasses i couldn't read them on some buses19:58
ali1234zmoylan-pi: my mum had an eye test and they completely messed it up. got her glasses and she couldn't see anything20:54
ali1234turns out they let a trainee do it, and then the person who was supposed to check it, didn't20:54
ali1234she went to a different optician and showed them her current and previous prescription and they were like "there's no way that could be right"20:55
zmoylan-pii've been using the same optometrist for yonks.  a family run place rather than the usual faceless mob.  in my case it's far more likely that it's my eyes failing20:58
ali1234it was boots that messed it up iirc20:58
ali1234the worst thing though is it took her 6 months to do anything about it, because she thought it was just her eyes getting worse20:59
daftykinsO_O20:59
daftykinsevery optician in the island seems to be at retirement age now which isn't very encouraging21:00
zmoylan-piyou've reached the optician event horizon were no new opticans open and the only new ones come along when old ones retire or die21:01
daftykinsindeed!21:02
daftykinslove the way mine emailed out from an address they aren't checking anymore, too...21:03
zmoylan-piyou just have to hack their gibson to find their real address... :-P21:08
daftykinswell if you put it like that...21:12
zmoylan-piand isn't the current best way to get their attention is to poke them on twitter?21:17
AzelphurI'm happy, bought a refurbished UPS on eBay for £160, looks like it'll hold up all my crap (3 x 40" monitors and two PCs) for an hour :D21:24
daftykinsbest to get safe shutdown configured!21:27
daftykinsi've been chasing a Dutch company for a delayed replacement battery for an old APC unit of late21:27
Azelphuryea, gotta do that21:31
zmoylan-piprobably waiting for the postmans hernia to heal after the crimbo rush... :-P21:51
daftykins;) more than likely a European country trying to work out how to cross the wet bit to get here21:51
zmoylan-pithe dutch build a wall, drain the area behind it and repeat... simple21:52
diddledanzmoylan-pi: and make the islanders pay for it21:59
daftykinshttps://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/24/iphone_7_plus_burning_battery/21:59
daftykins:D21:59
daftykinszmoylan-pi: my you've been busy, first Nokia, now... https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/24/revive_the_psion_5_series/22:00
zmoylan-piit's weird in 2008 nokia really really irked me... and my mates laughed when i went on and on about how many mistakes they were making.  within 12 months they had all switched from nokia to android... along with a sizeable chunk of the planet.  i didn't speak to all those people. honest guv22:02
zmoylan-piof course, today i took this pic in upmarket shopping centre on dublins most expensive shopping street... https://twitter.com/angryearthling/status/835246630710431745/photo/122:03
daftykins:>22:04
zmoylan-pithey're usually only spotted in street were they're selling fish and veg from stalls on the cobbles22:05

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