[08:02] Morning all [08:23] morning [09:14] Morning all [09:20] morning boys and girls. [10:05] i did a bad thing [10:05] i installed linux mint [10:05] then i installed ubuntu desktop to it [10:05] and selected lightdm and the window manager [10:06] and now i have unity, with a weird mix of mint === ging_ is now known as ging [10:10] does anyone know of a good way to fully unmint it? [10:10] ging: why would you do that? [10:11] i started a new job [10:11] first day i was given a linux mint usb stick to setup my machine [10:11] i thought i would give it a go [10:13] but i had enough [10:15] i need to figure out how to unmint grub [10:16] the mint luks decrypt screen does not work properly [10:17] when you type in your password it does into some other terminal [10:17] in clear text [10:18] so i have to boot, then reboot so it falls back to a simple decrypt screen [10:18] which thanksfully does work [10:20] i am scared to just uninstall mint-common [10:24] my biggest problem is i did something to my x settings to make it controlled by nvidia [10:25] and i can't get to the unity screen settings [10:25] so i can't turn off the sticky menu thing [10:27] dconf write /org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/unityshell/launcher-capture-mouse false [10:27] :( [10:28] that does work though [10:38] but none of this has cured my origonal problem, which was clicking and dragging stuff makes applications die === phantom is now known as Guest4252 [11:15] ging: just install ubuntu then use the debs on the usb pendrive to install anything you need for work :) A potential solution at least [11:27] ging: I'd be inclined to nuke and install ubuntu tbh [11:30] ging, Likewise. My advice would be back up your home folder (and maybe /etc) and nuke and restore. I keep my home folders on a separate partition just so I can do this at a moment's notice. [11:31] When I upgraded to xenial something completely bricked my OS, was back up and running again after a 20 minute install with all my files and settings intact because of this. [13:18] it seems to have worked suprisingly well [13:19] just not fixed any of my origonal issues [13:19] except the one that i didnt like mint [13:36] given that some things just don't work on mint that should, I'd nuke it [13:39] I've never liked mint - they frankenstein ubuntu repos with their own repo where their repo has _some_ stuff recompiled or differently versioned so anything from ubuntu which you expect to work with something you've installed from mint will fail - e.g. I had an issue where mint had separately compiled apache or php and apache-modules or php-modules failed to [13:39] work with it because they hadn't maintained ABI [13:40] I forget whether it was apache or php - or both [16:25] ooh, doctor strange is out [16:26] gotta love a bit of cumerbund [16:26] cumberbund? [16:27] how do you spell that? [16:52] diddledan: yeah cumberland is awesome chips and eggs [16:52] mm, sausage [16:52] sausage spiral no less! === pavlushka is now known as KindThree === KindThree is now known as pavlushka [18:40] diddledan: how's the SMART data look on that drive post zero? [18:40] daftykins: it says no errors now [18:41] smartctl output or nothing ;D [18:42] http://paste.ubuntu.com/24060254/ [18:44] ooh no remaps or anything, not too bad... so based on its' power on hours you could use it as a kinda general storage you don't really care about sort of drive, or a testing one - but definitely nothing live [18:53] :-) [18:54] diddledan: warning, cat torture - https://i.imgur.com/yaG5abA.gifv [18:56] :-o [18:57] poor kitty :-( [18:58] moar gentoo security patches tonight [18:59] :D [18:59] mysql and php [18:59] \o/ [19:02] daftykins: You know the is my cat planning to kill gag....in this case could we claim justifiable homicide [19:02] :> [19:05] I really should turn on my lights [19:05] sitting in the glow of monitors only is a bit haxx0rish [19:05] where's my hoodie? [19:05] * diddledan wanders off to find the hoodie [19:06] yep hood up please [19:06] :D [19:18] diddledan: i caught this magic timing yesterday - http://i.imgur.com/TJMdRhw.jpg [19:18] tail to the face! [19:18] lol [19:18] floof [19:18] they've been watching the outside world, which right now they're not permitted to experience... [19:19] aww :-( are they going cabin feverish? [19:20] nah, huge house - i think it's more the kitten curiosity and "how can be do more things that the human staff will worry over us for doing?" [19:20] any of you guys have a really really tough time adjusting to some new specs, before? i've never found it this tough [19:21] i could see distant stuff like the TV from my sofa perfectly immediately, but i couldn't even read my laptop on my lap in front of me for a while o0 [19:21] nope, but I have a fairly simple prescription [19:21] it's improved a bit now, but i almost have to look slightly off to the side to see irssi's text clearly, very offputting [19:21] ah, lucky, i'm on -10 in one eye now [19:56] i have had new specs drive me bonkers. it's was like they set the focal point a different distance than i was used to... [19:56] had to move all my screens and keyboards to make space for printed documentation [19:56] :( [19:57] i put it down to merely been from a family with crap eyesight and probably time for bifocals [19:57] oof [19:58] i've carried a monocular for reading bus numbers since i was in early 20s. even with glasses i couldn't read them on some buses [20:54] zmoylan-pi: my mum had an eye test and they completely messed it up. got her glasses and she couldn't see anything [20:54] turns out they let a trainee do it, and then the person who was supposed to check it, didn't [20:55] she went to a different optician and showed them her current and previous prescription and they were like "there's no way that could be right" [20:58] i've been using the same optometrist for yonks. a family run place rather than the usual faceless mob. in my case it's far more likely that it's my eyes failing [20:58] it was boots that messed it up iirc [20:59] the worst thing though is it took her 6 months to do anything about it, because she thought it was just her eyes getting worse [20:59] O_O [21:00] every optician in the island seems to be at retirement age now which isn't very encouraging [21:01] you've reached the optician event horizon were no new opticans open and the only new ones come along when old ones retire or die [21:02] indeed! [21:03] love the way mine emailed out from an address they aren't checking anymore, too... [21:08] you just have to hack their gibson to find their real address... :-P [21:12] well if you put it like that... [21:17] and isn't the current best way to get their attention is to poke them on twitter? [21:24] I'm happy, bought a refurbished UPS on eBay for £160, looks like it'll hold up all my crap (3 x 40" monitors and two PCs) for an hour :D [21:27] best to get safe shutdown configured! [21:27] i've been chasing a Dutch company for a delayed replacement battery for an old APC unit of late [21:31] yea, gotta do that [21:51] probably waiting for the postmans hernia to heal after the crimbo rush... :-P [21:51] ;) more than likely a European country trying to work out how to cross the wet bit to get here [21:52] the dutch build a wall, drain the area behind it and repeat... simple [21:59] zmoylan-pi: and make the islanders pay for it [21:59] https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/24/iphone_7_plus_burning_battery/ [21:59] :D [22:00] zmoylan-pi: my you've been busy, first Nokia, now... https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/24/revive_the_psion_5_series/ [22:02] it's weird in 2008 nokia really really irked me... and my mates laughed when i went on and on about how many mistakes they were making. within 12 months they had all switched from nokia to android... along with a sizeable chunk of the planet. i didn't speak to all those people. honest guv [22:03] of course, today i took this pic in upmarket shopping centre on dublins most expensive shopping street... https://twitter.com/angryearthling/status/835246630710431745/photo/1 [22:04] :> [22:05] they're usually only spotted in street were they're selling fish and veg from stalls on the cobbles