[00:01] <Xundres> hi
[00:02] <Xundres> I'm in ubuntu GNOME and I didn't manage to change the user avatar
[00:02] <Xundres> When I go to select the image. I cannot select any images
[00:21] <lerner> what I dont understand> I just used the shell to install mkvtoolnix. Then I saw the ppa. Got rid of mkvtoolnix and installed the ppa (https://launchpad.net/~djcj/+archive/ubuntu/mkvtoolnix). Then updated. I write, in the shell 'mkvtoolnix' and it returns 'command not found' what am I missing?
[00:21] <cfhowlett> don't use ppa when there's a working package available in repos?
[00:22] <OerHeks> Got rid of mkvtoolnix ... in the shell 'mkvtoolnix' and it returns 'command not found' ?
[00:23] <OerHeks> reinstall mkvtoolnix perhaps?
[00:23] <lerner> OerHeks, but then I added the ppa
[00:23] <lerner> if I reinstall, will it install the repo version or the ppa version?
[00:24] <OerHeks> upgrade just upgrades installed packages, AFAIK
[00:24] <sruli> lerner: to install repo version you need to remove ppa first
[00:24] <OerHeks> lerner, depends, if the ppa version is newer ..
[00:25] <lerner> ok, so default option is> install the newest available
[00:25] <OerHeks> That is basicly how it works, yes.
[00:25] <lerner> good...
[00:41] <tonyt> can anyone tell me the traceroute command?
[00:42] <wedgie> traceroute command for what?
[00:44] <azizLIGHT> how do i find packages installed that are not from ubuntu repos?
[00:45] <azizLIGHT> i have dpkg -l | awk '$1 == "ii" { print $2 }' | xargs apt-cache policy | grep -B1 'Installed' | sed ':a;N;$!ba;s/\n  / /g' | grep -v "ubuntu" | grep -v -- "--"
[00:45] <azizLIGHT> but i think using 'ubuntu' as an indicator for ubuntu repo installed pacakges, is not exact
[00:45] <azizLIGHT> in the installed line's version name
[00:46] <w9qbj> tonyt, on *nix systems it   traceroute target.name (or IP.add.re.ss  on a Windows it is tracert
[00:46] <wedgie> tonyt: or maybe you're looking for mtr
[00:51] <happyfr0gg> synaptic displays several gpg  no pubkey errors. How do I trace them to the programs they belong to?
[00:53] <happyfr0gg> I need help, please.
[00:55] <happyfr0gg> synaptic displays several gpg  no pubkey errors. How do I trace them to the programs they belong to?
[00:55] <blaster> I'm having a weird issue where Apache seems to be running in lieu of nginx, even I don't even believe I have apache running and nginx is supposed to be.
[00:56] <blaster> When I go to http://127.0.0.1 I'm getting Apache2 Ubuntu Default page.
[00:56] <blaster> I've even removed apache and everything and rebooted.
[00:58] <sruli> blaster: is it possible that the page you are getting is just the template in teh default dir?
[00:58] <w9qbj> blaster, try ps -ef | grep apache  to see if it's really running.  Or grep nginx - they may both be using the same default webroot
[00:59] <blaster> Yes that's the issue :)
[00:59] <azizLIGHT> so can anyone help me identify list of packges that are not ubuntu repo? http://i.imgur.com/UfhhQxv.png example
[00:59] <blaster> My bad.  Thanks!
[00:59] <sruli> blaster: what was the issue? default page ?
[00:59] <azizLIGHT> i want to get a list of packages thare are not ubuntu repo
[00:59] <blaster> Yes, nginx was serving the apache default page.
[01:00] <sruli> thought as much
[01:00] <happyfr0gg> synaptic displays several gpg  no pubkey errors. How do I trace them to the programs they belong to?
[01:00] <blaster> How long until that helicopter crashes into a mountain somewhere?
[01:00] <sruli> blaster: is that a ubuntu question? ;-)
[01:02] <kaosine> can anyone help me with server? I had it up and running just fine for a few hours last night then it died and I wasn't able to recover it using the recovery on my bootable usb I made.....
[01:02] <sruli> in my sudoers.d/ i added config top allow a full dir, is it possible to exclude 1 filename?
[01:02] <sruli> kaosine: define dies
[01:02] <sruli> \\define died
[01:04] <blaster> sruli, no it's an obiter dictum.
[01:04] <kaosine> sruli: like if I boot it up after bios it black screens and I get nothing as if no OS is there but the recovery sees one there
[01:05] <sruli> kaosine: you are using livecd for recovery?
[01:05] <kaosine> sruli: well live USB it won't fit on the cd's I have
[01:06] <sruli> kaosine: but the recovery you are using has useable gui?
[01:06] <sruli> kaosine: have you made any changes in the bios? eg.g eufi > legace or the reverse?
[01:07] <kaosine> sruli: nope, and it's the official installer so yeah it kinda has gui-ish it's the server install gui
[01:08] <sruli> kaosine: iirc server gui install does not have tools you can use to recover only fresh install
[01:08] <kaosine> sruli: it does have recovery from what I can tell....but it doesn't prompt me to de-encrypt since I did enable it
[01:08] <sruli> you have a terminal open?
[01:09] <kaosine> sruli: I'll have to boot it up right quick and put the liveusb back in
[01:10] <teresaejunior> Hi! I'm on my mobile now! My Yaketty laptop, which I need for work, has now become unbootable! I'm being dropped into emergency mode! It says"Dependency failed for Local File Systems" on boot. This error appeared before, but I workarounded with a reboot, but now rebooting does not help!
[01:10] <sruli> kaosine: once you are booted paste output of lsblk to paste.ubuntu.com
[01:11] <craptalk> some of my app sometimes gone by itself after restart, why is it? i am currently running ubuntu-gnome
[01:11] <craptalk> the app that i put it on the side is gone, and it is also not in my machine after i search it
[01:11] <kaosine> sruli: that's if I can get into it, I can't even pull up a terminal in it, I've got the install media up and it has a option labled "rescue a broken system"
[01:13] <sruli> kaosine: you will need a livecd, you dont have a usb stick?
[01:14] <craptalk> i dont think it's a kind of virus or something
[01:14] <kaosine> sruli: I have it with liveusb basically(all my cd's are 600mb which definitely won't fit server)
[01:16] <sruli> kaosine: server install images are NOT livecds, you need a live CD (desktop image), i dont know of a ubuntu one which will fit a cd, you need a 2gb usb stick
[01:19] <AndrewDi> hi
[01:20] <AndrewDi> does ubuntu 16.10 support gnome-classic？
[01:20] <kaosine> sruli: what about a lubuntu live?
[01:20] <teresaejunior> Mounting of devices are all timing out with "Dependency failed" errors...
[01:20] <kaosine> (that actually fit on a 700mb disc XD)
[01:21] <sruli> kaosine: my local lubuntu iso is 894mb, if yours is smaller, go for it, stick it on a cd
[01:21] <teresaejunior> Any ideas?
[01:22] <AndrewDi> any more detail error？
[01:22] <kaosine> sruli: I'm only saying because somehow I fit lubu on a cd XD
[01:22] <sruli> teresaejunior: sounds like something wrong in fstab or maybe UUID's are wrong
[01:22] <sruli> kaosine: ok, boot it
[01:23] <teresaejunior> sruli: OK, I'm comparing my database with blkid, just a minute...
[01:23] <teresaejunior> Not database, fstab
[01:24] <kaosine> sruli: may be a problem the disk drive won't open
[01:25] <kaosine> maybe I can use my superdrive with it...
[01:25] <sruli> kaosine: what diskdrive?
[01:25] <kaosine> sruli: apple superdrive.....the cd drive built into the system won't open for some odd reason now
[01:26] <teresaejunior> sruli: the UUIDs are all correct. Funny that I got the system to boot last time with a reboot...
[01:26] <sruli> kaosine: let me know when booted in livecd
[01:26] <sruli> teresaejunior: are all fstab entries correct?
[01:27] <Kingsy> can someone advise. I cant get any sound out my nvidia hdmi out. Sound works in kodi but not openbox. Pulseaudio pavucontrol is saying the device is "unplugged"
[01:28] <teresaejunior> sruli: I can't see anything wrong with it
[01:32] <kaosine> sruli: I think I'm going to have to download another iso the lubu I have doesn't have a live cd otoin to try without installing
[01:32] <kaosine> option*
[01:33] <kaosine> if I can find my external disk drive to burn it with...
[01:33] <faLUCE> (16.10)  hello. I'm using a  "Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN Adapter" USB dongle as hotspot. Unfortunately, as soon as a client connects to it, the hotspot goes in kernel panic. This Is really WEIRD. How can I understand where is the problem? I can't debug anything
[01:39] <pavlos> faLUCE, are you running hostapd on rpi? you may need a modded hostapd driver ... https://jenssegers.com/43/Realtek-RTL8188-based-access-point-on-Raspberry-Pi
[01:41] <faLUCE> pavlos: I'm running ubuntu 16.10 on a pc
[01:43] <tubal> Hello. Does anyone have an idea of what that thing is in the lower-right corner? https://imgur.com/a/6BeCQ
[01:43] <tubal> It stays there even when another window is in focus. It goes away if moused-over, but then reappears.
[01:46] <degenpoker> Hello was hopin for some help. Im tryin to install ubuntu 16.10 on my box   so it will be dual boot with win 10 ive tried 3 fresh installs of ubuntu keep getting same issue.   It says install complete please reboot. I do . It boots grub i select ubuntu i see a ubuntu screen for a sec then just a black screen with my cursor and the bubble on the top right
[01:46] <degenpoker> saying its connected to my wifi network.   Then it sits    i can ctrl alt f1 to login prompt but resolution looks wrong cant see all the writing.   Need some help please its an alienware x51 AMD radeon r7 vid card
[01:46] <tubal> Correction: it went away when I focused another non-Firefox window, the file browser.
[01:49] <degenpoker> prompt https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jtZUvFsc/20170223_184825.jpg
[01:49] <silox> Anyone here used Ubuntu Autopilot to install Openstack Newton on a 16.04 LTS platform?
[01:50] <happyfr0gg> On Ubuntu Synaptic returns several GPG no pubkey errors. How do I trace them to the programs they belong to?
[01:53] <azizLIGHT> how do i find packages tha have both ubuntu repo version and also a ppa version
[01:53] <azizLIGHT> using dpkg -l and apt-cache policy
[01:53] <silox> apt-cache policy
[01:54] <azizLIGHT> yes i have many packages. is there a better way to look at it instead of reading 22k lines
[01:54] <azizLIGHT> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24053511/
[01:55] <azizLIGHT> im trying to find packages like on line 22250
[01:55] <azizLIGHT> xserver-xorg-video-neomagic: its got a ppa package installed instead of ubuntu repo vrsion
[01:55] <silox> apt-cache policy xserver*
[01:55] <silox> try that
[01:56] <kaosine> sruli: yeah I think I'm SOL on trying to fix it I can't go anywhere right now and my disc drive has gone MIA
[01:56] <azizLIGHT> silox: its not very different from my paste. all it did was filter it down to xserver* related pacakges
[01:56] <azizLIGHT> im trying to find something more specific
[01:57] <silox> apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-neomagic doesn't work for you?
[01:58] <azizLIGHT> silox: my pastebin url already lists all the apt-cache policy of all packages. i dont need that information. i already have it
[01:58] <azizLIGHT> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24053511/
[01:58] <wedgie> silox: thta doesn't help him audit his whole system for packages which are installed from PPAs
[01:59] <silox> ah, I thought he was looking for a single package
[02:01] <wedgie> azizLIGHT: what do you get with ''apt show xserver-xorg-video-neomagic''
[02:04] <azizLIGHT> how many quotes should i put in
[02:05] <azizLIGHT> wedgie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24056539/
[02:05] <happyfr0gg> Synaptic Package Manager returns several gpg no pubkey errors. How do I trace the Pub keys to their corresponding programs?
[02:06] <lerner> is there any command to make my computer shut all programs and turn itself off in 2 hours time?
[02:07] <silox> azzizLIGHT: try this
[02:07] <silox> apt-cache policy $(dpkg -l | awk 'NR >= 6 { print $2 }') | awk '/^[^ ]/    { split($1, a, ":"); pkg = a[1] } nextline == 1 { nextline = 0; printf("%-40s %-50s %s\n", pkg, $2, $3) } /\*\*\*/      { nextline = 1 }' | grep -v ubuntu.com | grep -v "\/var\/lib\/dpkg\/status"
[02:07] <wedgie> lerner: shutdown -r +120
[02:07] <wedgie> err
[02:07] <wedgie> shutdown -h +120
[02:08] <wedgie> -r would be reboot
[02:09] <lerner> and now that I need to turn a vpn off before shutting the computer its time to learn to write scripts...
[02:10] <lerner> wedgie, can that command be combined with another command, like sudo service tor stop?
[02:10] <wedgie> lerner: if you need to get complex, probably best to put it all in a script and use "at" to schedule it
[02:10] <silox> something like sleep 7200 && nmcli con down id "Your VPN connection name here"
[02:11] <silox> if you're using network manager for it
[02:11] <wedgie> though shutting down ought to tell the sytem to stop all services...
[02:11] <silox> true
[02:11] <lerner> if I dont turn networks off before shutting computer off, it wont shut off
[02:12] <silox> I thought he might want to do that instead of shutting down altogether
[02:12] <lerner> it will send the killall command, but the computer will remain on
[02:12] <silox> that's not normal for sure
[02:12] <wedgie> lolwut? at isn't installed by default in 16.04?
[02:14] <lerner> wedgie, do i need sudo?
[02:14] <silox> yes
[02:15] <silox> to stop a service at least or shutdown
[02:16] <lerner> if I write a small h instead of capital, will it still turn off?
[02:16] <lerner> o wait
[02:16] <lerner> 2 different things
[02:16] <OerHeks> happyfr0gg, show us in a pastebin please
[02:17] <dylan__> hola
[02:17] <dylan__>    que tal
[02:17] <OerHeks> hi dylan__ english only please
[02:17] <dylan__> hola
[02:18] <happyfr0gg> OerHeks -  Okay, please give me a minute.
[02:19] <OerHeks> happyfr0gg, just run updates, it will show those errors too
[02:22] <happyfr0gg> OerHeks - http://pastebin.com/QMAF12A8
[02:23] <OerHeks> happyfr0gg, and on what ubuntu version?
[02:23] <happyfr0gg> Trusty.
[02:23] <happyfr0gg> 14.04.
[02:24] <OerHeks> happyfr0gg, ah, i have seeen this before, i think your drive has unmounted dirty, and is now mounted RO read only
[02:24] <OerHeks> you can check this in terminal : touch test.txt
[02:25] <OerHeks> if you get an error about read only, there you go:  perform fsck to fix this
[02:27] <lerner> if I executed shutdown -h +120 but my computer needs to restart to install upgrades, the first command will be executed, not the second, right?
[02:28] <happyfr0gg> I tried using Y PPA Manager but it failed to fix my issue.
[02:29] <OerHeks> happyfr0gg, your keys are still there, only because the drive is shutdown dirty, it is read only and the reason you cannot use your keys.
[02:30] <OerHeks> so, what did touch test.txt say?
[02:30] <happyfr0gg> Again, do I type in the terminal verbatim --> touch test.txt  ????
[02:31] <OerHeks> yes
[02:31] <OerHeks> it makes an empty file, just a test
[02:32] <happyfr0gg> ls displays the ' test.txt ' via terminal.
[02:33] <OerHeks> happyfr0gg, oke, then it is not a R/W problem
[02:33] <OerHeks> odd
[02:34] <happyfr0gg> OerHeks, I will try Methods 1 & 2 from here --> https://mintguide.org/other/440-how-to-fix-gpg-error-no_pubkey-on-linux-mint.html
[02:35] <OerHeks> sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:36] <OerHeks> ugh, mint manuals .. blasfemie !
[02:39] <QoQOoO> Hello dose anyone meet locale-gen steal ram problem?
[02:42] <QoQOoO> We use chef-client to provision out machine, but today we found when we execute "locale-gen en_US en_US.UTF-8" command, the command hang and steal many of memory
[02:42] <ClarkT> Greetins
[02:42] <OerHeks> QoQOoO, you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server too
[02:45] <QoQOoO> OerHeks: thks a lot..
[02:47] <OerHeks> mot sure where provisioning goes wrong, apparmor like in this old LXC issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/931717
[02:47] <OerHeks> c/mot/not
[02:47] <happyfr0gg> OerHeks, result from Method 1 --> http://pastebin.com/Vp3jAxNX
[02:49] <gnomethrower> I have an odd question
[02:49] <gnomethrower> I'm using Cinnamon on Ubuntu 16.04 and I want to know where the configuration is for the desktop background manager
[02:49] <gnomethrower> as it only allows 1 second thru 1440 seconds as the values it allows for delay between changing pictures
[02:49] <gnomethrower> and I want to mess around with it
[02:56] <stillcantchat> hope i can chat here
[02:56] <stillcantchat> why can't I chat using hexchat?
[02:56] <happyfr0gg> OerHeks, result from Method 2 --> http://pastebin.com/6rBFHgLp
[02:57] <OerHeks> happyfr0gg, i would clean the lists and reload them again, mucho faster >>>  sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:57] <OerHeks> 43 keys to go ..
[02:57] <Bashing-om> stillcantchat: ubuntu chat in #ubuntu-offtopic . Looks like hexchat is working .
[02:58] <stillcantchat> I meant, I can't send
[02:58] <stillcantchat> not working for me ...any irc client with ubuntu channels
[02:59] <happyfr0gg> Running ' sudo apt-get update ' now.  Its results in a bit....
[02:59] <Bashing-om> stillcantchat: Then how do I see what you send ?
[02:59] <happyfr0gg> ....Same thing.
[02:59] <stillcantchat> Bashing-om: hehe... I am using the webchat
[03:00] <stillcantchat> that's how
[03:00] <degenpoker> So i  finally got ubuntu to do somthing on boot after fresh install    i had to add nomodeset to grub menu hit e on boot.   Now its booted and sayz please enter passphrase for disk cryptswap1 on none!    And doesnt look like its letting me type   anything      is this because i chose to encrpyt home folder?
[03:00] <stillcantchat> hexchat doesn't work, konversation doesn't work...so I had to use webchat site
[03:01] <degenpoker> I seem to be screwing this ubuntu install up -.-
[03:01] <degenpoker> If i reinstall without encrpyting home will it fix this or am i spinning my wheeels
[03:05] <tatertots> degenpoker: have you tried entering the crypt password?....it may not show the password as you type it..that would be normal
[03:07] <degenpoker> Just sits   5 flashing lights
[03:07] <happyfr0gg> OerHeks, I tried your 1st two commands and at the end of its process it states several public keys are not available.
[03:08] <degenpoker> Hmmm thats weird
[03:08] <degenpoker> Now it booted
[03:09] <tatertots> degenpoker: yeah
[03:09] <tatertots> degenpoker: ...
[03:10] <degenpoker> tatertots:   i forced it to shutdown by holding button    rebooted and it booted to the ubuntu login screen for my account    never asked for cryptswap pass
[03:10] <degenpoker> Is that normal it would do that then not do it?
[03:11] <Aurorasaura> Hi everyone. I just installed ubuntu server 14.04, Is there anyway to use it to download torrents that I use for work?
[03:13] <happyfr0gg> Aurorasaura, why not use regular Ubuntu?
[03:14] <Aurorasaura> I have regular Ubuntu happyfr0gg :) Just playing around with other os's and versions.
[03:14] <Katai> Aurorasaura: install any torrent client
[03:14] <Katai> if you have a GUI desktop you can install transmission for example
[03:15] <Aurorasaura> The one I am trying out Katai is Ubuntu Server 16.04.2 LTS No GUI I believe so far
[03:16] <Katai> then try either transmission-cli or rtorrent
[03:16] <Katai> or do a search to see the options
[03:16] <Katai> "apt search torrent client terminal"
[03:18] <Katai> you can use a gui on the server edition if you want though
[03:18] <Aurorasaura> How?
[03:19] <Katai> just install your favorite desktop
[03:19] <Katai> apt install gnome-desktop
[03:19] <Aurorasaura> Ah! your awesome lol
[03:19] <Aurorasaura> Ty for the tips Katai
[03:19] <Katai> :)
[03:20] <Katai> if you want the full gnome stack (or any of them), try apt install ubutun-gnome-deskop (or ubuntu-kde-desktop, etc)
[03:26] <happyfr0gg> Aurorasaura, http://www.networkworld.com/article/2356810/linux/100941-10-amazing-Linux-desktop-environments-youve-probably-never-seen.html#slide2
[03:28] <Aurorasaura> Thank you happyfr0gg :D
[03:30] <happyfr0gg> I like LXDE, I use it and it has very little CPU and RAM resource usage. Meaning that others may suck up alot of CPU and RAM.
[03:30] <happyfr0gg> Unity uses quite a bit of CPU and RAM.
[03:31] <kaosine> happyfr0gg: yeah I used ubuntu right as they switched to Unity and noticed a massive difference when it switched
[03:31] <kaosine> especially since I was running it on a laptop which meant the battery tanked on the thing
[03:33] <happyfr0gg> Is Mate similar to LXDE in how little CPU and RAM it uses?
[03:38] <kaosine> happyfr0gg: idk I find I like LXDE too much that I end up using lubuntu a lot
[03:39] <happyfr0gg> Is transparent windowing available in LXDE? I am getting a bit tired of its old school layout.
[03:47] <degenpoker> could someone help me with setting screen resolution  for some reason displays is only giving me 1024x768    but i should be able to do 1920x1080        its   radeon r7 druver which i guess isnt supported for 16.10  so it looks like my system is using AMDGPU
[03:47] <degenpoker> looks pretty bad right now on my monitor
[03:48] <degenpoker> Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.8, 256 bits)
[03:52] <degenpoker> i think maybe im not using the right graphics driver
[03:52] <degenpoker> i dont see anything in additional drivers for graphics
[04:08] <raxx> hello
[04:35] <CrazyTux> which method of updating/upgrading is advised? using CLI or Software Updater?
[04:39] <Bashing-om> CrazyTux: Nothing wrong with both .. and a looksee in the logs sometimes .
[04:39] <CrazyTux> ok
[04:54] <amicrawler> is there a way to recover my drive i lost grub
[04:54] <amicrawler> ubunut 16.04
[04:54] <amicrawler> x64
[04:55] <amicrawler> my laptop boots but will not goto to xorg
[04:55] <amicrawler> or gui
[04:55] <amicrawler> i tried fsck
[04:55] <amicrawler> found files
[04:55] <amicrawler> but booting again no gui still
[05:02] <Bashing-om> amicrawler: A GUI issue ? At the login screen - key combo ctl+alt+F1 ; can you login to the system here ?
[05:02] <amicrawler> tried no good
[05:03] <amicrawler> said error
[05:03] <amicrawler> i can get the logon to go up
[05:03] <amicrawler> but not to desktop
[05:04] <OerHeks> amicrawler, boot, hold shift, go into recovery (alt F1 make RW), mount -o rw,remount /
[05:04] <OerHeks>  and  login, perform: Sudo dpkg --configure -a ### run apt install -f, all should be fine now
[05:05] <amicrawler> can only use grub commands
[05:06] <OerHeks> boot to grub, choose recovery, etc
[05:08] <amicrawler> failed britty.service
[05:09] <amicrawler> reached target swap
[05:09] <amicrawler> and stops there
[05:10] <amicrawler> doing a dpkg
[05:14] <amicrawler> mouse is up but still no GUI
[05:14] <amicrawler> backround pic is there
[05:14] <amicrawler> but no dock or other stuff
[05:16] <amicrawler> have my desktop picture but no dock or GUI
[05:16] <amicrawler> have a mouse on the picture
[05:16] <amicrawler> but can click any thing
[05:16] <amicrawler> not
[05:17] <fiter> I am trying to upgrade from ubuntu 15.04 to 16.04, when I run update command i get following errors,
[05:17] <fiter> W: Failed to fetch http://apt.wxwidgets.org/dists/natty-wx/InRelease    W: Failed to fetch http://apt.wxwidgets.org/dists/natty-wx/Release.gpg  Could not resolve 'apt.wxwidgets.org'  W: Failed to fetch http://cran.fhcrc.org/bin/linux/ubuntu/wily/Packages  404  Not Found
[05:17] <OerHeks> login again with ctrl alt f1, remove rm .Xauthority and go back to gui with ctrl alt f7 http://askubuntu.com/questions/436925/ownership-of-xauthority-transferred-to-root
[05:17] <OerHeks> amicrawler, ^^
[05:18] <OerHeks> fiter, natty? that was 11.04 .. upgrade can be a hard, see eolupgrade
[05:19] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[05:19] <stanford_ai> I'm looking for a GENIUS to work with us on the most promising drone AI company. Do you know any geniuses here?
[05:19] <fiter> OerHeks:  it is 15.04
[05:19] <OerHeks> i would reinstall, 15.04 > 15.10 > 16.04
[05:19] <OerHeks> stanford_ai, wrong channel, this is ubuntu support
[05:19] <stanford_ai> oops
[05:20] <fiter> OerHeks:  what would be the strategy for that ?
[05:20] <stanford_ai> i guess there are no geniuses here
[05:20] <amicrawler> LOL
[05:21] <OerHeks> fiter, step 1. if you don't have a backup of your data, it is not important, step 2 download 16.04
[05:21] <Aurorasaura> Would anyone know why when I change the hostname on ubuntu server the old host name still shows up on other computers network locations? I edited /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[05:21] <amicrawler> guest mode does not work
[05:22] <amicrawler> just shows to the mouse
[05:22] <fiter> OerHeks:  I don't have a backup of my data.
[05:24] <fiter> OerHeks:  why download 16.04 can I not accomplish it through upgrading as downloading will need to make a usb stick ??
[05:25] <OerHeks> fiter, you can upgrade, with the eolupgrade page. i would reinstall, much faster.
[05:26] <OerHeks> seee the part old-releases and how to put that in your sources.list
[05:27] <OerHeks> anyway, it is alway good to have an usb with the latest iso ready *before upgrading*, for when your system becomes corrupted.
[05:42] <Aurorasaura> Whats ubuntus equavelent of tree?
[05:42] <Aurorasaura> like listing all folders
[05:42] <lwy> d
[05:43] <OerHeks> Aurorasaura, install tree ?
[05:43] <OerHeks> !info tree
[05:43] <Aurorasaura> haha. I just didnt know if ubuntu had a special one but ty
[05:43] <OerHeks> ls gives one level of files/folders AFAIK
[05:44] <OerHeks> had to search too, :-D
[05:44] <rynan7>  /msg nickserv register rynan7 Wh2dnmac
[05:44] <OerHeks> ls -R gives such a mess
[05:45] <OerHeks> rynan7, one space too many
[05:45] <rynan7> lol thank it's been years since I ue=sed irc
[05:45] <stanford_ai> is anyone here familiar with ROS/robotics on linux? computer vision, AI, drones, manufacturing, electronics, industrial design, awesomeness, video-making, marketing, lean startup, design-thinking, ethnography, graphic design, or anything related?
[05:46] <Aurorasaura> Tree works awesome.
[05:47] <OerHeks> stanford_ai, stop that nonsense, thanks
[05:47] <Aurorasaura> Though I want to be able to tree without having to specify the folder...
[05:47] <OerHeks> Aurorasaura, then you like mc too, filemanager for tty
[05:47] <OerHeks> !info mc
[05:49] <stanford_ai> OerHeks, you're welcome !
[05:49] <Frank_Jameso> hey, does anyone ever have issues on a thinkpad x200 tablet with the wifi? Mine sometimes just stops working. I do sudo service network-manager restart, and that used to fix it, but now it seems like a crap shoot (pardon the language)
[05:49] <Frank_Jameso> Also, I came in here out of nostalgia, even though it's not a question or an answer, I have good memories of this place.
[05:50] <rynan7> I am new to ubuntu and I was wondering if anyone could give me an example of how to chown a directory to a user?
[05:51] <Frank_Jameso> rynan7: if you type in man chown in the terminal, it will give you a manual to it. I know it's a bit daunting when you're newer so...
[05:51] <rynan7> I have the basics I keep messing up on the group part
[05:51] <Frank_Jameso> if you scroll down though into that manual from the command 'man chown', you'll see a lot of arguments you can add in to the command, one is -R, or you can type the full thing, which is --recursove (two -'s).
[05:51] <hicoleri> The time on my system clock resets to UTC time after each reboot for some reason even though the local timezones are different, but it syncs itself to local time if it has access to the internet. How do I make the local time not 'reset' itself
[05:52] <Frank_Jameso> that recursive command is required to get everything inside of a folder.
[05:52] <Frank_Jameso> also when in a manual, you can type the letter q to leave it and go back to the terminal
[05:53] <rynan7> thank you Frank just one more question. Do you enter the user first or the directory?
[05:54] <pottsy> How can you have trouble with chown,  its such a self explanitory command   : chown -R user:group /directory
[05:54] <Frank_Jameso> I was actually retesting the command as you type that, this worked for me, assuming the user's name is Jameso and the folder's name is folder:
[05:54] <Frank_Jameso> rynan7: chown -R Jameso folder
[05:55] <rynan7> ok thanks again
[05:55] <Frank_Jameso> pottsy, everyone's mind has a different hurdle.
[05:56] <pottsy> Frank_Jameso: fair,  I've jumped a few today ;/
[06:18] <degenerate> hi new to ubuntu   fresh install dual boot       having an issue with my graphics card       tryin to play steamgames   isnt doable        i type sudo lshw -c video     and im getting *-display UNCLAIMED      heres the full pastebin.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/24057402/   any help is much appreciated i know its prob simple and something i am messing up
[06:24] <EriC^^> degenerate: which ubuntu version?
[06:25] <pottsy> degenerate: can you post output for 'lspci -k'
[06:26] <pottsy> driver issue I'd guess. Try latest proprietary AMD driver? third party driver?
[06:27] <pottsy> as for the intel adaptor,  I'm suprised thats showing unclaimed,  but could be because AMD card is primary output.
[06:28] <Frank_Jameso> it does seem like it's the wrong card driver combination. it has intel on there but you're using a radeon
[06:28] <pottsy> intel would be the onboard adaptor.
[06:29] <Phanes> whats the `whatprovides` equivalent for apt
[06:33] <degenerate> pottsy   : incoming
[06:33] <degenerate> Eric^^ 16.10
[06:34] <degenerate> pottsy : pottsy
[06:34] <degenerate> pottsy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24057442/
[06:35] <degenerate> from what i read theres no amd driver for 16.10    i have to download 15.04
[06:36] <degenerate> -.- im downloading the image now unless theres somthing else i can do
[06:37] <pottsy> degenerate: sorry man,  can you post   'lspci -nnk'
[06:38] <pottsy> actually no never mind
[06:38] <pottsy> misread output nvm
[06:40] <lena_> hello
[06:45] <pottsy> I'd say the radeon kernel driver doesn't support your card - http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx
[06:46] <pottsy> try the latest proprietary driver.
[06:49] <pottsy> ahh hold that - won't work with 16.10
[06:49] <degenerate> -.-
[06:50] <Frank_Jameso> which gfx card again?
[06:50] <degenerate> Display Adapters 	
[06:50] <degenerate> AMD Radeon (TM) R7 370 Series
[06:50] <degenerate> Intel(R) HD Graphics 530
[06:51] <degenerate> the struggle is real
[06:52] <Frank_Jameso> if it makes you feel any better after reading the question, I too will die someday. But the monitors are plugged into the correct card right?
[06:52] <degenerate> yes
[06:53] <degenerate> its one monitor
[06:53] <degenerate> and im using it now
[06:54] <degenerate> im burning 15.04  right now   im gonna install that i think that amd driver is supported on 15.04 from what i read
[06:56] <Frank_Jameso> amdgpu-pro drivers?
[06:56] <Frank_Jameso> or a differnt one
[06:57] <Frank_Jameso> sorry if it's redundant info, I've been a bit in and out, heh.
[06:57] <Frank_Jameso> well, in any case, if you aren't using those, this may be of interest/worth. http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx
[07:01] <pottsy> If you downgrade the kernel you will be OK to install on 16.10 but at that stage you may aswell just install 1604 and update your packages if it's a fresh install.
[07:02] <degenpoker> I dont think my cards in thay pro
[07:04] <BadShah> T
[07:04] <BadShah> Is anyone there ?
[07:07] <Frank_Jameso> man bad luck degen, you're right lol. But this one from what I can tell supports it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver  .. it shows it near the bottom.
[07:07] <Frank_Jameso> hi Badshah
[07:09] <craptalk> how can i check whether my battery is normal or getting weak?
[07:09] <craptalk> i installed powerstat but cant read it
[07:10] <craptalk> i heard people running ubuntu has lower lasting battery compared to other OSes, is it true?
[07:11] <craptalk> mine i got brand new laptop installed ubuntu-gnome, and it last around 2 hours for various activities (coding, streeaming, browsing)
[07:11] <craptalk> please enlighten me on this, thank you
[07:11] <squelch> it not a myth
[07:11] <Frank_Jameso> one sec on that craptalk
[07:12] <craptalk> Frank_Jameso, yes, any help would be appreciated
[07:12] <craptalk> i got this source: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2210547
[07:13] <Frank_Jameso> generally it is worse
[07:13] <Frank_Jameso> but I've used a program in the past to sort of fine tune it
[07:13] <hateball> craptalk: upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0
[07:13] <craptalk> Frank_Jameso, worse in what perspective? is it cause the management of the battery from the OS, or what? cause you know, mine is brand new, it should be something else
[07:13] <Frank_Jameso> I'm trying to verify it's name. If you check the program out thoroughly, you'll probably be pretty impressed with what it can do. But it may take some adjusting to get it perfect for your needs
[07:14] <craptalk> hateball, what can i check from your command?
[07:14] <Frank_Jameso> craptalk, ironically I'm talking from an area where I don't know for sure on that one, so I have to guess and my guess is that they just don't overly optimize to be safe.
[07:14] <hateball> craptalk: the state of your battery, which you asked for
[07:15] <Frank_Jameso> ok craptalk, use apt to install powertop
[07:15] <Frank_Jameso> and then run that with root privileges
[07:15] <craptalk> hateball, this is the result http://termbin.com/xy5f
[07:15] <Frank_Jameso> after you run it, tab over to the far and with tunable.
[07:16] <Frank_Jameso> in there, probably everything almost will be diagnosed as bad in terms of power
[07:16] <squelch> if you install linux on a new computer you void warranty
[07:16] <hateball> craptalk: that's not terrible, but capacity is what determines how much power you're able to store
[07:16] <squelch> :)
[07:16] <Frank_Jameso> you can use arrow key to go down the list, and to tune something, just use the space bar. If something causes issues, leave it as bad.
[07:16] <Frank_Jameso> but I got my old thinkpad watching youtube videos to about 12 watts from 22 watts with that.
[07:17] <craptalk> Frank_Jameso, since i am new to use powertop, what kind of tuning that you mean? is it including disabling the wifi, screen brightness and alike?
[07:17] <squelch> they need a new ubuntu laptop edition
[07:17] <craptalk> hateball, so it is normal?
[07:17] <Frank_Jameso> it's more.. specific
[07:17] <Frank_Jameso> it's not going to disable your wifi, it's going to do other things. you'll see though based on your computer. Each thing has a description of what it is
[07:18] <craptalk> i was into ubuntu only, now i am using gnome which is more animative or something like that
[07:18] <craptalk> it should effect the battery life somehow
[07:18] <hateball> craptalk: assuming it's not brand new, yes. my laptop is 5-6 years and battery is still at 100% tho. but it mostly runs on AC
[07:18] <Frank_Jameso> like "autosuspend for USB device, runtimes for warious things could be more efficient
[07:18] <Frank_Jameso> I recommend trying it out to see. I think you'll be impressed.
[07:18] <Smilex> Hey. I upgraded my ubuntu, and now I get dmesg messages printed all over when I boot. It even prints into the tty login thing
[07:19] <craptalk> Frank_Jameso, i got many lists that are labeled as bad
[07:19] <craptalk> like VM writeback timeout
[07:19] <Frank_Jameso> well, start by playing around with it. take any that aren't the autosuspend for your mouse / keyboard and set them to good.
[07:20] <Frank_Jameso> and then see how it's doing
[07:22] <craptalk> Frank_Jameso, i did make it good at some points, anyway, what if i put it in wrong thing? is it going to be a problem?
[07:22] <craptalk> and i dont have to restart to take the effect right?
[07:22] <Frank_Jameso> well
[07:23] <Frank_Jameso> it can make things a bit slower and weird
[07:23] <Frank_Jameso> you don't hav eto restart
[07:23] <Frank_Jameso> I'm trying to find what I used to see power consumption
[07:23] <craptalk> please let me know
[07:23] <Frank_Jameso> but for the mouse wake one for example
[07:23] <craptalk> just the essentials
[07:23] <Frank_Jameso> if you choose that one, you have to click the mouse and wait a second for it to work
[07:23] <Frank_Jameso> that's the weirdest thing I've found
[07:24] <martian_> jihj
[07:24] <craptalk> i tried to manage the AMD GPU things
[07:24] <Frank_Jameso> craptalk: if it's a laptop with battery you may be able to use the power statistics that is already installed to see the power use
[07:25] <Frank_Jameso> I'd try just doing everything but the mouse wake one, see what the difference is, and see if you hit any issues
[07:25] <Frank_Jameso> if you do, then it may be a bit trickier than my experience was, but man it's insane what that can do for a battery.
[07:25] <Frank_Jameso> and that's my general experience with linux. If you default it it can be bad but if you really get into it it'll blow windows out of the water.
[07:25] <craptalk> insane you mean it saves alot the time?
[07:26] <Frank_Jameso> not sure what alot the time means
[07:26] <craptalk> i mean the battery lasting time to hold the activities while unplugged
[07:26] <Frank_Jameso> but try checking the usage with everything off, then turn on all non mouse ones and check ita gain with a youtube video playing or somethngi
[07:27] <Frank_Jameso> it's the biggest battery savings I have ever seen on anything in my life.
[07:27] <Frank_Jameso> if a company sold this they'd be selling it for $1000 an install =/
[07:28] <Frank_Jameso> these changes by themself won't survive a reboot, but this should help with that. http://askubuntu.com/questions/112705/how-do-i-make-powertop-changes-permanent
[07:29] <Frank_Jameso> once you have it all figured out in a way that doesn't hurt performance for you and saves a lot of battery life, do that part.
[07:30] <Frank_Jameso> and again, to see the change in usage, hit the start (super?) button, and look for power statistics.
[07:30] <craptalk> i think i gotta learn the essentials part about the conf
[07:30] <craptalk> or i make it slow
[07:30] <craptalk> but it revert it back right?
[07:30] <Frank_Jameso> right now if you restart it just goes back automatically
[07:30] <craptalk> unless i dont remember what i did wrong
[07:30] <Frank_Jameso> or you can revert it through powertop
[07:30] <craptalk> what? so it is not permanent?
[07:30] <Frank_Jameso> when you want to save it long term, use the link I posted.
[07:30] <craptalk> i mean gotta open the powertop every fresh rebooting?
[07:31] <Frank_Jameso> no.
[07:31] <Frank_Jameso> right now you would
[07:31] <Frank_Jameso> I posted a link on making it permanent
[07:31] <Frank_Jameso> but do that after you've messed around with it a bit, and know what you want to make permanent doesn't do anything that inconveniences you.
[07:31] <craptalk> okay i gotta read it
[07:32] <anddam> is there a way to umount a mounted device from Files (nautilus) without actually ejecting it?
[07:34] <Frank_Jameso> like a usb drive?
[07:35] <anddam> exactly like a usb drive
[07:35] <Frank_Jameso> so this may be a learning experience for me. Is there a difference between umounting it and ejecting it?
[07:35] <Frank_Jameso> as far as I know, they are the same.
[07:36] <Frank_Jameso> or do you mean you are just physically removing the drive frome the computer without unmounting it in the filesystem?
[07:36] <anddam> no, "ejecting" the device remoes the storing device from kernel, lsblk won't list it anymore
[07:37] <anddam> that is uncomfortable if you're going to tinker its partition table
[07:37] <anddam> umounting the partition will just release the mounted device
[07:38] <Frank_Jameso> the guides I'm looking at give both options, testing with a usb drive now. What version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:38] <anddam> latest LTS
[07:38] <anddam> what guide is it?
[07:38] <anddam> I just clicked the eject button on nautilus
[07:39] <R13ose> How do I save password with kdewallet as a normal user?
[07:39] <Frank_Jameso> this may not be too helpful, http://askubuntu.com/questions/5845/what-is-the-difference-between-unmount-eject-safely-remove-drive-and-the
[07:40] <anddam> split URL
[07:40] <Frank_Jameso> highlight the whole thing, right click, open url
[07:40] <Frank_Jameso> if your irc lets you
[07:40] <Frank_Jameso> http://askubuntu.com/questions/5845/what-is-the-difference-between-unmount-eject-safely-remove-drive-and-the
[07:40] <Frank_Jameso> it's too long to not split on mine
[07:41] <anddam> I already opened it, just pointing out it was a long URL
[07:41] <Frank_Jameso> looking into something more useful though
[07:41] <R13ose> Any thoughts on my question?
[07:41] <elias_a> Which password manager works best for Ubuntu 16.04 user?
[07:42] <anddam> you cannot highlight a single url split since in textual clients there will be spurious characters in front of the lines following the first
[07:42] <anddam> my point is I don't have those options frmo the askubuntu
[07:42] <anddam> actually I don't even have desktop icon, and I'd like them
[07:43] <Frank_Jameso> I agree with that point, I'm looknig into a few things
[07:43] <anddam> but in nautilus I get https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/b1ksjgpfcm6rwjf/nautilus.png
[07:43] <ducasse> elias_a: 'works best' is highly subjective
[07:44] <anddam> Frank_Jameso: in fact that answer is frmo '10
[07:44] <anddam> from
[07:44] <elias_a> ducasse: Anything that works and is safe should be enough for me as I have not used them before.
[07:45] <alkisg> elias_a: I'm using keepassx for years, it's fine for me
[07:45] <ducasse> elias_a: keepassx here as well
[07:45] <akik> R13ose: can you access the wallet with kwalletmanager?
[07:45] <elias_a> alkisg: That sorts it then. I'll have support and everything! :D
[07:45] <elias_a> ducasse: You too :P
[07:45] <alkisg> elias_a: haha nope I'm not a dev there! :P
[07:46] <akik> R13ose: if you don't have the password for the wallet, you can reset it
[07:46] <jbermudes> Does anyone know what the package name for the Display Settings widget is called?
[07:46] <anddam> mm any idea why a fat fs would be auto-mounted read-only?
[07:46] <elias_a> alkisg: That's even better becaus devs generally are not good at giving end user support. :P
[07:46] <anddam> I think yesterday I just plugged it and copied files onto
[07:47] <alkisg> elias_a: don't come to #ltsp again for support! :D
[07:47] <elias_a> alkisg: Not to say that would be true in your case. :P
[07:48] <diego_> Hello I'm quite desperate I accidentaly created an ISO file on an external NTFS hard drive and lost everything on it. Can anybody help?
[07:48] <diego_> ISO Image, sorry
[07:48] <alkisg> diego_: what was the command that you used?
[07:48] <ducasse> !recovery | diego_
[07:48] <ducasse> !recover | diego_
[07:49] <ducasse> diego_: ^^ look at this latest link
[07:49] <mintyfresh> Hi I know you can set your mouse settings so that double click needs to happen faster, or double click can happen slow but can also happen fast, but I was wondering if I could set my mouse so that double click only works if it's slow?
[07:49] <diego_> no command i double cliked on an ISO and it said restore
[07:50] <anddam> can I label a fat volume on MBR?
[07:51] <diego_> ducasse: thank you. I'll look into it.
[07:51] <anddam> answer to self: mlabel
[07:51] <alkisg> anddam: no labels are stored on mbr, they are stored in the partition space
[07:52] <Frank_Jameso> anddam I'm trying to find a version of nautilus with the proper behavior
[07:53] <squelch> kubuntu is out
[07:54] <alkisg> Restoring an iso deleted files from a hard disk? That doesn't make sense...
[07:55] <anddam> Frank_Jameso: doesn't really matter
[07:55] <anddam> it was just a curiosity, if it's not immediate it's likely not there
[07:56] <anddam> or a big design fault in user interface
[07:56] <anddam> what I'm more interested is this mlabel from mtools
[07:56] <anddam> its man page makes no sense at all
[07:56] <Frank_Jameso> we'll see soon enough
[07:56] <AndChat-35156> Back
[07:56] <AndChat-35156> Any thoughts?
[07:56] <anddam> mlabel [-vcsn] [-N serial] drive:[new_label]
[07:57] <anddam> how's a linux user supposed to provide that   drive:   DOS syntax?
[07:57] <e_> any cool popular channels i should join?
[07:57] <mintyfresh> Hi I know you can set your mouse settings so that double click needs to happen faster, or double click can happen slow but can also happen fast, but I was wondering if I could set my mouse so that double click only works if it's slow?
[07:58] <mylisto> I can't seem to get my bluetooth ear buds to work.  I can select them in volume control but nothing comes through them.
[07:58] <mylisto> http://pasteboard.co/C78lXeJan.png
[07:58] <mylisto> I can't seem to get my bluetooth ear buds to work.  I can select them in volume control but nothing comes through them.  http://pasteboard.co/C78lXeJan.png
[08:00] <OlofL> Is there a openvpn gui for ubuntu 16.04?
[08:01] <Frank_Jameso> restarting to test changes
[08:04] <Frank_Jameso> oh well, no umount. I'm off to bed!
[08:07] <eltigre> er
[08:12] <mylisto> I can't get my bluetooth headphones to work with Ubuntu.  When I try turning them on it restarts my youtube videos.  I'
[08:12] <mylisto> I can't get my bluetooth headphones to work with Ubuntu.  When I try turning them on it restarts my youtube videos.  I'm starting to hate Ubuntu!  This is what's happening https://youtu.be/wIg8SOXYX9k
[08:15] <anddam> I'm on an EFI system and I'd like to install grub to an USB stick with MBR
[08:16] <anddam> grub-installer complains that
[08:16] <anddam> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.
[08:16] <anddam> /usr/sbin/grub-install: error: cannot find EFI directory.
[08:16] <anddam> and that seems reasonable since I don't have an ESP, nor I want the -efi grub
[08:16] <lord-ragnarock> Turns out I typed my whole spiel without once realizing I wasn't connected, so here goes :P
[08:16] <anddam> do I need grub-pc package?
[08:17] <lord-ragnarock> In a nutshell: My PowerPC Mac upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04, which broke lots of stuff. Now I've restored lightdm and xfce, but can't open 99% of my apps, except xterm.
[08:18] <OerHeks> anddam,  it is looking for a 100mb partition, easy to create yourself, see the uefi manual
[08:18] <OerHeks> !uefi
[08:18] <anddam> OerHeks: why would I do that?
[08:18] <anddam> I need BIOS grub
[08:18] <lord-ragnarock> Since I can't copy-paste from the mac to here, here's an example of the common error that's popping up whenever I open midori or even xfce4-terminal:
[08:19] <OerHeks> anddam, bios grub is only possible if you disabled secure boot, afaik
[08:19] <alkisg> anddam: efi usb sticks don't need a special efi partition; just put the files in your vfat partition in an /efi dir
[08:19] <lord-ragnarock> "(midori:3435): GLib-GObject-WARNING ((: Attempt to add propety GtkSettings::gtk-menu-bar-popup-delay after class was initialized" --- It even lists this for other properties like "gtk-can-change-accels", "gtk-menu-popup-delay", "gtk-menu-image", etc, etc.
[08:19] <alkisg> anddam: there's no mbr installation either, because efi doesn't run mbr code
[08:19] <lord-ragnarock> I got no clue where to start sadly. GTK's unfamiliar territory :(
[08:20] <Penguin__> Hello.Can anybody help me?
[08:20] <lord-ragnarock> Depends Penguin__. What's your problem? :)
[08:20] <lord-ragnarock> I can try to solve yours while others are reading mine
[08:21] <mylisto> I can't get my bluetooth headphones to work with Ubuntu.  When I try turning them on it restarts my youtube videos.  I'm starting to hate Ubuntu!  This is what's happening https://youtu.be/wIg8SOXYX9k
[08:21] <Penguin__> I have an unusual problem.I cannot install nor uninstall  steam due to broken dependiences.Software centre has stopped working too.
[08:21] <Penguin__> Help please.
[08:21] <lord-ragnarock> Hmm.
[08:21] <lord-ragnarock> Last time I had broken dependencies was last night after an upgrade. A lot of that was solved with "sudo apt-get -f install"
[08:21] <lord-ragnarock> See if that works first :P
[08:22] <Penguin__> I'm using lubuntu
[08:22] <pavlushka> Penguin__: post the output of "sudo apt install -f" in paste.ubuntu.com
[08:22] <Penguin__> Do you support this flavor here?
[08:22] <Penguin__> I tried to ask in lubuntu channel but nobody knew how to solve the problem.
[08:22] <lord-ragnarock> All the buntus have similar bases. Skills should be transferrable :)
[08:22] <anddam> OerHeks, alkisg: trying to follow http://freedos.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/USB#Linux_2
[08:23] <anddam> the USB stick I'm preparing on an EFI system but it's for another system, for firmware upgrade
[08:23] <alkisg> anddam: freedos is a 16bit application, how are you planning to run that in efi mode?!
[08:24] <alkisg> anddam: this tutorial assumes you have grub legacy 0.97 installed in your ubuntu box
[08:24] <anddam> alkisg: I'm not, it's you guys who want me to use EFI
[08:24] <alkisg> anddam: I never told you to use efi
[08:24] <anddam> I'd like to install BIOS grub on the usb stick instead
[08:24] <pavlushka> Penguin__: yes, all official Ubuntu flavors are supported here
[08:25] <OerHeks> anddam, i said: bios grub is only possible if you disabled secure boot ... but oke
[08:25] <anddam> alkisg | […] just put the files in your vfat partition in an /efi dir
[08:25] <anddam> I got it that way
[08:25] <alkisg> anddam: just don't follow that tutorial as it assumes wrong things about your system. If you have to, use a VM.
[08:25] <anddam> alkisg: I'm not even sure what's it assuming
[08:25] <anddam> but I figure I'd need grub-pc
[08:26] <alkisg> (10:15:30 πμ) anddam: I'm on an EFI system and I'd like to install grub to an USB stick with MBR ==> you didn't say non-efi there
[08:26] <anddam> and that would uninstall grub-efi (that I'm using on my system)
[08:26] <anddam> alkisg: the MBR part hinted it tho'
[08:26] <Penguin__> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24057737/
[08:26] <anddam> but just to be clear:
[08:26] <Penguin__> sorry for other language than english
[08:26] <freakynl> Hi, just upgrade our 14.04 LTS server to 16.04, but now my iSCSI target no longer starts automatically. The config scripts are still in /etc/target. Can't run them manually though, gives all kinds of file/link creation errors under /sys
[08:27] <Penguin__> but I cannot change it now.
[08:27] <anddam> I'm on a UEFI laptop with ubuntu, I want to create a USB FreeDOS bootbable stick since I want to upgrade firmware on another system, that can do UEFI and BIOS and where I can disable secure boot (if need be, I don't think it's active atm)
[08:27] <Penguin__> Are u here Pavlushka?
[08:27] <anddam> point is I'm not very into the booting mechanics, I roughly understand how it wors but not the detail
[08:27] <squelch> it used to be possible to use windows bootmenu to boot linux
[08:28] <squelch> isnt that possible anymore?
[08:28] <mylisto> I can't get my bluetooth headphones to work with Ubuntu.  When I try turning them on it restarts my youtube videos.  I'm starting to hate Ubuntu!  This is what's happening https://youtu.be/wIg8SOXYX9k
[08:28] <anddam> I found a SO answer suggesting unetbootin, that apart having a terrible UI, wasn't unable to produce a bootable stick, either EFI or BIOS
[08:28] <pavlushka> Penguin__: I am here with lord-arhemadan :p
[08:28] <anddam> any hint welcome
[08:28] <Penguin__> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24057737/
[08:28] <akik> anddam: i'm pretty sure uefi doesn't matter with freedos and firmware updates. or are you certain you need uefi with that?
[08:28] <Penguin__> Here's what you asked for
[08:28] <Penguin__> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24057737/
[08:29] <wedgie> squelch: i remember doing something with chainloader once upon a time... but that was over a decade ago.
[08:30] <squelch> wedgie:  should work fine you know MS is linux friendlly now
[08:30] <anddam> akik: I'm almost sure I don't, I'm trying hard to be clear about the fact that I don't want to install EFI on the USB
[08:30] <anddam> but I cannot have grub-pc package since it conflicts with grub-efi
[08:30] <anddam> I figure I _could_ install grub-pc, do the setup and then reinstal grub-efi packages
[08:31] <anddam> does grub-pc try to install itself on package configuration?
[08:31] <lord-ragnarock> pavlushka, thank you for reminding me my other name was signed in, hahahaha :p
[08:33] <squelch> http://askubuntu.com/questions/62440/is-it-possible-to-boot-ubuntu-using-the-windows-bootloader
[08:35] <pavlushka> Penguin__: please run "sudo apt clean && sudo apt autoremove && sudo apt install -f" again
[08:35] <anddam> can someone confirm installing grub-pc and removing the conflicting grub-efi packages won't affect the current grub setup in ESP?
[08:36] <R13ose> How do I save kde wallet password in ubuntu for normal user?
[08:36] <Penguin__> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24057756/
[08:36] <OerHeks> esp =  EFI system partition .. i think you misunderstand
[08:36] <akik> R13ose: can you access the wallet with kwalletmanager?
[08:37] <Penguin__> Pavlushka,I will change system language to english if you tell me how.
[08:37] <Penguin__> because I guess it causes analyzing problems
[08:38] <R13ose> akik: yes but need to enter password which is failing because I am normal user.
[08:38] <akik> R13ose: it works for a normal user too
[08:39] <R13ose> akik: really, not for me.
[08:39] <akik> R13ose: of course if you have lost the wallet password or don't know it, it fails
[08:39] <R13ose> akik: maybe that is the problem.  How do I change this?
[08:40] <akik> R13ose: askubuntu answer says to delete $HOME/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl. that'll delete the kwallet and all its passwords
[08:41] <akik> R13ose: http://askubuntu.com/a/22176
[08:42] <squelch> can you use kwallet with bitcoins?
[08:43] <akik> R13ose: lower on the page somebody mentions that solution no longer works since 15.10 http://askubuntu.com/a/762114
[08:43] <squelch> kwallet is encrypted?~~
[08:43] <R13ose> akik: right, not working
[08:44] <akik> R13ose: try following that second url's instructions
[08:46] <squelch> Tip
[08:46] <squelch> For greater security configure KWalletManager to use one wallet for local passwords and a separate one for network passwords and form data.
[08:47] <squelch> can you get kwallet to autotype your sudo password?
[08:49] <R13ose> akik: I will see if works next time
[08:52] <R13ose> akik: thanks
[08:55] <motie> Hi Anybody. I've been trying to install Owncloud on a raspi 2 server i have, but it's to complicated and i can't get it working. Are there any client software i can install on my ubuntu desktop, and then just sync my data to the RasPi as a SSH server.
[08:57] <R13ose> What can I do to improve this?
[09:09] <lord-ragnarock> In a shocking new development on my upgrade pandemonium, it appears all works well if I log into XFCE4 as root. I can start any app I want to, the icons and wallpaper appear.
[09:10] <lord-ragnarock> But as my regular user, I can't run anything but xterm, the wallpaper and icons are nonexistent, and my panel's a bit wonky too
[09:11] <mcphail> motie: does it have to be owncloud? You know there's a Nextcloud snap?
[09:11] <BAN_ME_YOU_PUNKS> I am here to promote racist, sexist, misogynistic, and other intolerant and racist hate speech, for the purpose of getting this IP address permanently banned from this channel and network.
[09:11] <lord-ragnarock> ok cool :)
[09:12] <OerHeks> BAN_ME_YOU_PUNKS, say please?
[09:12] <tatertots> lol
[09:12] <BAN_ME_YOU_PUNKS> lol
[09:12] <lord-ragnarock> BAN_ME_YOU_PUNKS, YEAH! We want you to beg for it!
[09:12] <BAN_ME_YOU_PUNKS> i am using the WiFi belonging to my worst enemy who also uses freenode on occasion
[09:12] <BAN_ME_YOU_PUNKS> so yes, ban it
[09:12] <lord-ragnarock> .-. but why
[09:13] <OerHeks> !ops | take the voice of this dude please.
[09:13] <lord-ragnarock> That sounds like a massive waste of time to me
[09:13] <tatertots> are you using your gf's / bf's wifi and they have been flirting with another on irc and this is your way to stop it?
[09:13] <tatertots> lol
[09:13] <lord-ragnarock> I'dve found some more creative way to get revenge lol
[09:14] <lord-ragnarock> My dad still tops revenge ideas. Basically took a mortar and pestle to poison ivy and added alcohol to make an extract.
[09:14] <lord-ragnarock> squirted it on the shirt of the school bully ever so quietly ;)
[09:15] <baash05> Hey all.
[09:15] <lord-ragnarock> Wassup baash05 :D
[09:16] <baash05> My MacPro is about to die, and I about to embark on a search for a new laptop
[09:16] <lord-ragnarock> :( poor mac pro
[09:16] <baash05> Honestly I'm not fully convinced it's not the linux that I installed
[09:16] <lord-ragnarock> On my end I've got this Power Mac from 1995 running Ubuntu 14.04 hahaha
[09:16] <OerHeks> !hcl
[09:17] <lord-ragnarock> Which reminds me, now that mr. Ban-Me isn't distracting us,
[09:17] <baash05> Yeah.. I saw that.. but the list is ugly.
[09:17] <baash05> I was wanting a chat.
[09:17] <lord-ragnarock> It seems root can run xfce4 perfectly fine, while my main regular user can't.
[09:18] <lord-ragnarock> And this is after upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04.
[09:18] <lord-ragnarock> Difference is root has everything, while main user is missing icons, wallpaper and can't run anything but xterm
[09:19] <baash05> Anyone running on a chomebook?
[09:19] <lord-ragnarock> I'm sure it's a permissions problem now, but I seroiusly don't knoew where to start fixing this :P
[09:19] <baash05> I'm not really interested in power as I'm editing code most of the time.
[09:20] <baash05> I was just looking at the pixel.
[09:25] <geodb27> People : hi !
[09:28] <geodb27> I'm running a fresh install of ubuntu LTS 16.04 on which I have only installed lxd (through the latest stable ppa). There is a dnsmasq process and I can't find how systemd launches it. Could someone help me on this ?
[09:31] <tcorneli> which package installs dnsmasq?
[09:32] <geodb27> tcorneli: This is what I am wondering. From what I've read here or there, ubuntu seems to ship it's own instance of dnsmasq. However, I have not installed NetworkManager.
[09:33] <Dynetrekk1> geodb27: apt-file?
[09:33] <geodb27> I've searched all files under /etc, /lib/systemd, /var/lib/systemd (grep -rHin dnsmasq in all these three places) and found nothing interresting concerning this process. When I issue a ps -elf, I can see a dnsmasq process, and it's parent is process number one...
[09:34] <Dynetrekk1> geodb27: looks like dnsmasq-base
[09:34] <akik> geodb27: dnsmasq is started by the network-manager
[09:35] <geodb27> akik: I have not installed network-manager.
[09:35] <tcorneli> it is dnsmasq-base, which is a dependency for network-manager
[09:35] <geodb27> Dynetrekk1: It could be indeed, I don't know enough the internals of ubuntu.
[09:35] <Dynetrekk1> geodb27: apt-file search <filename> will reveal the package name, if nothing else
[09:36] <Dynetrekk1> then you could go on to find out which package requested that package (it's probably not something you installed manually)
[09:36] <akik> geodb27: network-manager is installed by default
[09:36] <Flannel> geodb27: `dnsmasq` package installs /etc/init.d/dnsmasq
[09:37] <geodb27> Flannel: I have no /etc/init.d/dnsmasq file.
[09:37] <Flannel> geodb27: You're on 16.04?
[09:37] <geodb27> indeed.
[09:37] <tcorneli> executing dns-clean or restarting network-manager doesn't clear dns cache
[09:38] <Flannel> geodb27: What version of dnsmasq-base and dnsmasq do you have installed?  (apt-cache policy dnsmasq dnsmasq-base)
[09:38] <geodb27> dnsamsq : Installed : none. dnsmasq-base : installed 2.75-1ubuntu0.16.04.1
[09:39] <Flannel> is that because of the typo? or actually none?
[09:40] <geodb27> Well, that's great, at least I understand things better. Here is my real problem : this dnsmasq-base tries to serve dhcp leases to my lxc containers, but it doesn't do it as expected, since it doesn't respect what's in /etc/hosts file.
[09:40] <geodb27> Erf, actually none, a typo (I typed all and did not copy/paste).
[09:41] <yacc> Any idea where to complain about the GoogleTalkPlugin (I don't think that 200% CPU usage on an i7 while waiting for people to join a hangout is reasonable)
[09:41] <Flannel> geodb27: ACtually, in 16.04, there's also a systemd thing.  I was looking at 14.04 originally (in 16.04, there's also an init.d file in addition to systemd)
[09:42] <lord-ragnarock> Okay I think I've figured it out. Upgrading must've really messed with my user's permissions, so I'm having to create a brand new user and start over. Not a problem :)
[09:42] <Flannel> geodb27: But, not sure what is starting dnsmasq if you only have -base installed.
[09:42] <lord-ragnarock> Ergo: I now have a functional desktop!
[09:42] <scoopex_> i have a strange dns resolving behavior - nslookup/host is capable to resolve a ip address, tools like rdesktop-vrdp and firefox cannot? http://pastebin.com/9RtMi3ya - do you have any hints for me ? (i am runnung ubuntu 16.10)
[09:43] <Flannel> geodb27: Oh.  How about /lib/systend/system/dnsmasq.service?
[09:43] <geodb27> Flannel: as far as I can get it work as expected, that's allright.
[09:43] <geodb27> Let me check.
[09:43] <Flannel> Oh wait, sorry, I'm back in dnsmasq not -base.
[09:44] <geodb27> Indeed... And there is no such file. Could it be that the launch of dnsmasq-base is hard-coded somewhere and that there is no-way to change it's configuration at all ?
[09:44] <lord-ragnarock> Well, now for my final problem. After the upgrade Ubuntu seems to think 1600x1200 is the only resolution available despite 1920x1080 having been done just before in 12.04. Any ideas? :P
[09:46] <te_x> Hey, can will I update from 16.04.1 LTS to 16.04.2 LTS using just dist-upgrade?
[09:46] <scoopex_> Flannel: restarting of dnsmasq.service helps - but why? whats different between nslookup/host and dns resultion in applications
[09:46] <Ben64> te_x: yep
[09:47] <te_x> Ben64: no extra steps needed then? How can I make sure that I keep using 16.04.1 if I don't want to update?
[09:48] <Ben64> te_x: why would you not want to update
[09:48] <Flannel> geodb27: Libvert apparently uses dnsmasq as a "non-system daemon", according to the Readme.Debian in dnsmasq-base
[09:49] <geodb27> Hum... interesting Flannel. I've finally installed dnsmasq and I'm heading right now to try to configure it to suit my needs, if I can.
[09:49] <Flannel> geodb27: that said, I know nothing about LXC.
[09:51] <geodb27> Flannel: as a matter of fact, there is not that much to know, according to my "problem". I only want to have a dnsmasq that reads /etc/hosts and gives correct ip adress and names to interfaces that ask for these on a bridge.
[09:51] <obozor> Hi guys small problem. When im double click in some windows (nautilus) windows are minimalized... how to turn off it?
[09:51] <tcorneli> restarting dnsmasq doesn't help. dns records keep getting cached
[09:53] <geodb27> tcorneli: invalidate the cache held by nscd
[09:55] <geodb27> nscd -i hosts
[10:00] <anna_> hi everyone
[10:01] <anna_> I was looking for a way to remove Amazon on ubuntu
[10:01] <selckin> its called debian
[10:01] <anna_> and I found it strange that all post about it on askubuntu was removed.
[10:03] <anna_> is there something against removing the Amazon app?
[10:03] <ppf> anna_: sudo apt remove unity-webapps-common
[10:03] <ppf> that'll remove shopping lens
[10:03] <ppf> (assuming that's what you want)
[10:04] <anna_> ppf thx I already did that
[10:04] <anna_> I was just curious about why those posts were removed
[10:04] <ppf> restarted your session afterwards?
[10:04] <anna_> like censored
[10:04] <ppf> I don't know anything about that, sorry :)
[10:04] <akik> http://askubuntu.com/questions/192269/how-can-i-remove-amazon-search-results-from-the-dash-or-disable-the-feature
[10:04] <anna_> no it was removed no problem on my side
[10:06] <anna_> yeah, akik that's what I am talking about. it is not the only post removed though. it just made me curious. ask wanted to ask here if anyone knows the reason
[10:06] <akik> anna_: that post is still there. why do you say it's removed?
[10:06] <home> what?
[10:06] <anna_> it says "page not found"
[10:07] <anna_> when I click on the link.
[10:07] <home> thats sad
[10:07] <ppf> anna_: that's a failure on your end
[10:07] <anna_> I see.
[10:07] <ppf> filtering proxy in the way?
[10:07] <home> what place is this?
[10:07] <anna_> I actually realized that Opera VPN caused it
[10:07] <home> how did I reach here
[10:08] <anna_> it is quite weird though.
[10:08] <bazhang> home it's the ubuntu support channel
[10:08] <home> All i did was open hex chat by mistake
[10:08] <akik> home: you can close your window now
[10:08] <anna_> I have never encountered it before.
[10:08] <anna_> ppf thanks again :)
[10:08] <akik> anna_: try another browser maybe
[10:08] <home> Oh so this is the famous support channel
[10:09] <home> Great!
[10:09] <anna_> akik: when I closed the VPN it worked well this time.
[10:11] <akik> amazing that people open their irc client and then are completely baffled out
[10:11] <anddam> akik: suggesting they weren't baffled before
[10:13] <anna_> akik: what do you mean baffled?
[10:13] <anna_> btw I got a notification that "requested CTCP PING"?
[10:13] <anna_> what does this mean?
[10:13] <akik> anna_: i mean people come to this channel and say things like "why am i here?"
[10:14] <anna_> yeah it is kinda dumb xD
[10:15] <orso> Hi
[10:15] <orso> Hey
[10:15] <orso> Is there someone?
[10:16] <anna_> hey orso
[10:16] <akik> !ask | orso
[10:22] <anna_> my eyes were nearly bleeding from looking at the launchbar :p
[10:22] <anna_> I like it more when it is on the bottom :p
[10:44] <anddam> willing to have a headless box, should I install desktop and then disable gdm, or install server and add Xorg?
[10:45] <akik> anddam: the first solution is the easier one
[10:47] <anddam> the graphical installer asks me if partition should be primary or extended
[10:48] <anddam> does that even make sense in GPT?
[10:48] <akik> anddam: no
[10:49] <akik> anddam: i think you didn't boot in uefi mode
[10:54] <BluesKaj> HI folks
[10:56] <anddam> akik: I only have UEFI enabled in firmware
[10:57] <akik> anddam: does your disk contain a mbr scheme partition table?
[10:58] <anddam> akik: no
[10:58] <anddam> unless it's the MBR compatibility gdisk adds in GPT
[10:58] <akik> anddam: sorry, i don't know
[10:58] <anddam> but is the graphicalinstaller so smart that the manual partition dialog would change each partition specific options according if the booting system is MBR or GPT?
[10:59] <akik> but in gpt there's no primary/extended/logical partitions
[10:59] <anddam> actually that's not even a tihng because what matters is the target disk, not the boot
[10:59] <anddam> akik: that's my point actually
[11:01] <Guest8> hi, I have cloned my drive to a larger one using dd, updated MBR and increased the partition size of my root partition to cover the entire new drive... so far all is good. the only issue I have is that Ubuntu's LVM doesn't understand I have done all of this.. it still thinks the drive is the former size
[11:01] <pressure679> Will compiling the kernel from the PC it will be used on be better than installing it from a .deb file?
[11:02] <Guest8> what can I do to expand this volume? lvextend won't do it, says there is no free space even though there is
[11:02] <OerHeks> pressure679, no, those times are long gone.
[11:03] <OerHeks> guest8 you need to change 2 things, vg volume group, and the volume itself. i am not an expert ..
[11:04] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm --- http://askubuntu.com/questions/196125/how-can-i-resize-an-lvm-partition-i-e-physical-volume
[11:05] <BluesKaj> Guest8,  try using the check option in your partitioner , gparted is the best IMO
[11:05] <Guest8> I'm headless with only ssh access so I have to do it on the mounted file system, and I can't add a new device using pvcreate
[11:05] <BluesKaj> oh
[11:06] <OerHeks> resize on mounted filesystem? .. oh no..
[11:06] <BluesKaj> more info aleays helps
[11:06] <akik> Guest8: lvm uses a partition as its physical volume. you can see it in "sudo vgdisplay -v". maybe you need to enlarge that first
[11:07] <akik> Guest8: or another solution is to create another partition that you can add to your existing volume group as a new physical volume. it might be safer :)
[11:07] <Guest8> all space is already partitioned and used
[11:07] <Guest8> it's just lvm that doesn't understand
[11:08] <akik> Guest8: is your root partition in the lvm?
[11:09] <Guest8> yes, it seems so
[11:09] <akik> Guest8: the lvm sets the size limits for your logical partitions
[11:10] <Guest8> My /dev/sda3 is 1 TB (Linux LVM), it used to be 500 GB. LVM still thinks the /dev/mapper/stage--vg-root is 500 GB (which is mapped to sda3 as far as I understood)
[11:10] <akik> Guest8: how did you resize the linux lvm partition?
[11:11] <Guest8> recreated the partition using parted
[11:12] <akik> Guest8: there is quite high possibility for data loss if you don't do it right. did you follow some documentation?
[11:12] <Guest8> I just needed to move the end of the partition to the end of the volume (but keep the start where it used to be)
[11:13] <akik> Guest8: there is a command called pvresize which changes the lvm physical volume
[11:13] <Guest8> so in recreating the partition I effectively moved the end of the partition, and it worked out just fine
[11:13] <Guest8> yes, pvresize thinks I have 500 GB of space rather than 1 TB
[11:14] <Guest8> so I can't resize the partition to 1 TB there, says there is not enough space
[11:14] <akik> Guest8: maybe you can follow this guide (pvresize, lvresize, resize2fs) http://ryandoyle.net/posts/expanding-a-lvm-partition-to-fill-remaining-drive-space/
[11:14] <akik> just make backups first
[11:15] <Guest8> ah no, you are right
[11:15] <Guest8> pvresize then lvresize seems to do the trick, thanks
[11:20] <akik> Guest8: did it work?
[11:20] <Guest8> rebooting to see if the changes took effect
[11:21] <pressure679> I did chmod to root and back recursively on a user directory, one minor warning now is apt says some signature isn't signed, weird
[11:22] <pressure679> *.chown*.
[11:23] <Guest8> fdisk -l /dev/sda is correct as before, df -l shows the disk to be 500 GB still
[11:23] <akik> Guest8: resize2fs is able to resize mounted file systems
[11:24] <akik> Guest8: it was the last one to use
[11:24] <Guest8> ah, it worked, sorry and thanks!
[11:28] <pc> Hey everybody - I got a problem with Luks: Cryptography Setup fails to start after 3 failed password attempts. Though I'm sure I type in the correct password every time. System log also  tells me that before I get to password entry "uinput" module can't be loaded. Starting Load Kernel Modules fails shortly after.
[11:30] <anddam> is a root password set by default on a fresh 16.04 install?
[11:30] <anddam> Desktop
[11:30] <anddam> the installer only asked for user password
[11:31] <pressure679> No, root password is set by the terminal command 'su passwd'
[11:31] <akik> anddam: the root password is locked by default
[11:31] <faLUCE> Hello. I installed 16.10. In the grub menu, I see that I can choose 4.8.0-22 or  4.8.0-39 kernel. The latter one is the default one and it causes weird kernel panic if I use a "Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS" USB dongle. So: do you have any idea about that? Why there are two  kernels?
[11:32] <akik> pressure679: it's "sudo passwd" which changes it
[11:32] <pressure679> -or 'su passwd root' iirc
[11:33] <brunch875> is there an 'already installed music player' in ubuntu?
[11:33] <brunch875> forgot to mention -> terminal based
[11:33] <alkisg> anddam: the recommendation is NOT to set a root password, but use "sudo" instead when you want root
[11:33] <alkisg> It's considered safer, and it is why Ubuntu defaults to that
[11:34] <craptalk> i added new path variable on my .bash_profile, but everytime i restarted the machine, i gotta source the file again, in other words reloading the file. how can i make it permanently available in my $PATH?
[11:34] <craptalk> should i not configure it on ~/.bash_profile?
[11:35] <pressure679> iirc there is the /etc/env file that makes env vars for qll users on the mqchine
[11:36] <DexterF> hi
[11:36] <DexterF> where can I get adb 1.0.36 for 16.04lts?
[11:36] <pressure679> Try 'ls /etc | grep env' or 'ls /etc/* | grep env' to be sure
[11:36] <alkisg> craptalk: put it in .bashrc, see http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/51036/what-is-the-difference-between-bash-profile-and-bashrc for details
[11:37] <anddam> alkisg: ok, but the question was different
[11:37] <DexterF> nvm, latest sdk seems a good approach
[11:37] <anddam> alkisg: I see root is root:!: in /etc/shadow
[11:37] <alkisg> anddam: it's not set by default and thus the installer doesn't ask it, are you teaching grammar or something?
[11:38] <anddam> alkisg: what?
[11:38] <alkisg> Anyways
[11:39] <craptalk> alkisg, nice explanation, thank you for the hel
[11:39] <craptalk> help*
[11:39] <alkisg> craptalk: np
[11:39] <craptalk> i guess i put it wrong
[11:39] <akik> anddam: the ubuntu way is not to use the root account directly, but to use sudo
[11:39] <anddam> akik: that's clear and that's what I've been doing for years
[11:40] <akik> anddam: but it's your computer, and if you want to change the root password you can do it with "sudo passwd"
[11:40] <anddam> I was just curious about what root account status was after a fresh login
[11:40] <anddam> since I just happen to have installed a syste
[11:40] <anddam> m*
[11:41] <rockyh> hi!
[11:42] <rockyh> I mounted a filesystem through sshfs
[11:42] <rockyh> in a local directory, say /local
[11:42] <rockyh> every file in /local has (from stat) "Device: 30h"
[11:43] <rockyh> but I can't find any device with major number 3!
[11:44] <rockyh> nonetheless, `mount' displays the remote filesystem mounted locally named `user@remotehost:/remotedirectory' instead of `/dev/sdxx'
[11:44] <rockyh> does the local system not contain a file for the remote filesystem?
[11:45] <craptalk> i source the path that i created in bashrc, but i got not valid identifier
[11:45] <craptalk> why is the problem? i guessit worked before
[11:45] <craptalk> the same line of path that i put there, why it got me some errors?
[11:46] <pressure679> it should work with 'export <name>=<path>'
[11:46] <anddam> craptalk: mind to provide some context?
[11:48] <craptalk> the path is, PATH=$PATH:/opt/my/path/to/dir, then export $PATH
[11:48] <craptalk> did i do correctly?
[11:48] <anddam> if on two lines, yes
[11:48] <craptalk> yes just two lines
[11:48] <anddam> you can do as well    export PATH="$PATH":<your stuff here>
[11:48] <Quetzal> akaWolf: any result?
[11:49] <craptalk> anddam, i mean it is fine right?
[11:49] <anddam> craptalk: in what file are those two lines?
[11:49] <akaWolf> Quetzal: ?
[11:49] <Quetzal> akaWolf: with pavucontrol-qt.
[11:50] <craptalk> pycharm
[11:50] <Quetzal> Maybe this one has a tray icon.
[11:50] <craptalk> i put it on /opt
[11:50] <akaWolf> Quetzal: I answer you at another channel :)
[11:51] <Quetzal> just realized I'm on the wrong one! :·D
[11:53] <BluesKaj> Quetzal, running kde ?
[11:53] <Quetzal> Yup, and really enjoying it! :·)
[11:54] <BluesKaj> did you install it after installing ubuntu?
[11:54] <Quetzal> And by really, I mean REALLY! :·) It's awesome. (For me at least :·) )
[11:56] <BluesKaj> well, Quetzal, kde/plasma is aka kubuntu :-)
[11:56] <BluesKaj> on ubuntu core thay is
[11:56] <BluesKaj> that is
[11:57] <Quetzal> ... actually, I just installed Manjaro :·) But I was on KDE neon. Really good distro!
[11:57] <Quetzal> So it is and was preinstalled! :·)
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Quetzal, yeah , i have neon-kde on my laptop
[11:59] <Quetzal> Pretty good, huh? :·) Even on a small and old ultrabook it's pretty smooth, without any tweaking!
[11:59] <Quetzal> Gotta go! see you! :·)
[12:25] <Skizu> Hey I have /loads of ?/bin/loads of? and I want to move the things in bin down one level, how'd I do that through cli?
[12:30] <Skizu> Hey I have /loads of ?/bin/loads of? and I want to move the things in bin up one level, how'd I do that through cli?
[12:32] <brunch875> Skizu, I am having trouble undestanding
[12:33] <JP____> Hey, i wanna rebind alt+F4 to do something other than close program
[12:34] <JP____> How?
[12:34] <akik> Skizu: make a pastebin describing your problem
[12:34] <Quetzal> JP____: Which DE do you use?
[12:35] <JP____> lubuntu's DE
[12:35] <JP____> xfce?
[12:37] <JP____> nah, lxde
[12:43] <massorog> I want to use python for my vps instead of php how should I do?
[12:46] <Quetzal> JP____: Sorry, didn't use lxde for a while. But I would guess that there is in the system settings a keyboard section in which there is a shortcuts tab. Find something like «close window» and clear the shortcut. Then create a new one. Can't help much more, unless you give me a screenshot of the config center. That might help. : )
[12:49] <mrhall> hello
[12:49] <mrhall> i need a good linux irc client
[12:49] <mrhall> is irssi good?
[12:49] <olmari> mrhall: I like
[12:49] <selckin> weechat
[12:50] <JP____> xchat is decent
[12:50] <ducasse> JP____: xchat is dead
[12:50] <mrhall> i use this with terminal
[12:50] <mrhall> ?
[12:50] <selckin> yes
[12:50] <ducasse> mrhall: irssi or weechat
[12:50] <JP____> ducasse: works like a charm, and is easy to use
[12:51] <ducasse> JP____: but has now been replaced by hexchat, as there hasn't been a release in years
[12:51] <mrhall> lubuntu always say to me when i start up: "repair, ignore, etc"
[12:52] <mrhall> always i dont know why
[12:52] <JP____> you broke it :p
[12:53] <paki> !list
[12:58] <anddam> mmm I'm connecting and USB3.0 enclosure on wihch I copied data from the previous system, so there's GPT and an ext4 partition, and I see the USB device registers as usb-storage in dmesg, but then I don't get any sd for it
[12:59] <mrhall> Msg nickserv identify itachi
[12:59] <anddam> Error: please provide password
[12:59] <anddam> oh nvm, just change it
[13:00] <mices> how  do i make /dev/sdc /dev/sdb when there's only sdc in fdisk list and no sdb
[13:00] <anddam> mices: with udev rule, I guess
[13:00] <mrhall> How can i change ?
[13:00] <mices> anddam: rule meaning it goes in a file?
[13:00] <anddam> mices: oh wait you don't want a fix assignment, you just want to move the cerrent device name
[13:01] <mices> yea, every time things get whacky somehow my sd card goes from dev/sdb to dev/sdc
[13:01] <anddam> mices: yes udev rules do, but that's for a different goal, I misread your request
[13:01] <anddam> mices: does it matter?
[13:01] <littlebit> hi poeple, I have xubuntu 16.04 installed on my intel nuc. I switched from my miniHDMI to DVI to mini HDMI to HDMI cable and noticed that when I play a youtube clip, the voices are all in slomotion. can someone help?
[13:01] <mices> because the os doesn't see the files sometimes
[13:02] <anddam> mices: that's going to be a different issue
[13:02] <mices> it seems apps themselves keep track of mounts
[13:02] <anddam> I doubt they track the device
[13:03] <anddam> if anything they'd track the mountpoint
[13:03] <mices> well right now there's only sdc and to get back sdb i have to reboot
[13:03] <mices> i wanna get sdb back without rebooting lol
[13:06] <anddam> mices: I don't get why you want sdb
[13:08] <mices> because this is what happened; i ran `rake routes` and it said no
[13:08] <mrhall> hello when i want change my pasword the system say to me give me a key
[13:08] <mices> Rakefile found
[13:08] <mrhall> what is irc key?
[13:08] <mices> but Rakefile was in the directory
[13:08] <mices> then i typed ls
[13:08] <ducasse> mrhall: ask in #freenode
[13:08] <mices> nothing
[13:08] <mices> while mounted
[13:08] <mices> notepadqq is a crazy app
[13:09] <mices> strange things can happen when you're using notepadqq and rails at the same time
[13:09] <mices> it's known as the biggest memory user
[13:10] <mices> notepad++ or notepadqq are memory hogs
[13:11] <anddam> mrhall: you likely got a key when first registering the nick
[13:12] <anddam> mices: you're not making much sense, you were talking about the need of having sdb in place of sdc and then went to rake and notepad apps
[13:12] <amazoniantoad> What happens if I give two different network adapters the same weight in iptables?
[13:13] <mices> well either i lost all my data  or why does ls show nothing
[13:13] <anddam> mices: and now you're back to files
[13:13] <anddam> mices: nobody has a clue on what you're doing, and you're not showing anything relevant either
[13:14] <anddam> describe your problem in a brief form, show commands you run and the output you got, if possible with the output you expected instead
[13:14] <anddam> this is my best advice
[13:14] <mices> it's the open terminal windows maybe, i just have to close them and open a new one
[13:15] <mices> another strange thing when i ejected the sd card in file manager, it cause file manager to close
[13:16] <mices> well now everything that was using the card is closed, file manager, terminal windows
[13:16] <mices> let's see what happens now
[13:16] <anddam> again, no clue, I'll keep doing my business
[13:17] <mices> it seems i need to umount the mount point as well as the device
[13:17] <mices> then sdb comes back
[13:17] <ducasse> mices: was the sd card mounted, and then you ejected it while the files were open?
[13:19] <mices> ducasse: not sure, i think i had my computer off when i went outside with the card
[13:22] <mices> well the files can't be seen in terminal unless someone can advise i'll just reboot
[13:22] <mices> i know why cause i'm in the directory
[13:24] <mices> not
[13:30] <anddam> ducasse: how dare you asking such private and reasonable informations??
[13:31] <anddam> apropos my earlier question about root password on freshly installed system
[13:31] <anddam> the rationale was that the previous system (a debian) somehow got a corrupted root and systemd asked me for root password for maintenance or ctrl-D to try and continue boot
[13:31] <anddam> it's at that point that I figured I had never set one
[13:32] <anddam> one can certainly boot off a live system and fix the broken one, but it could be handy to have a root password set
[13:37] <anddam> possibly odd question, can I have "natural scroll" with the mouse wheel as well?
[13:38] <anddam> I don't have the option at all in Settings > Mouse & Touchpad, likely because I don't have a touchpad connected to the system
[13:43] <lerner> on iftop, to the right side, there are 3 columns. I dont understand them
[13:45] <ducasse> lerner: 'man iftop' describes them
[13:50] <anddam> why is there an %admin entry in default sudoers if there's no admin group by default?
[13:51] <llutz> anddam: backward compatibility
[13:51] <Pici> anddam: We used to use the admin group instead of the sudo group.
[13:52] <Haris> hello
[13:52] <anddam> I see, thank
[13:52] <Haris> on 14.04 lts, apache is not loading the envvars. I'v rebooted the machine. result is same. how to improve on this one ?
[13:52] <Haris> :%s/apache/apache2/
[13:54] <anddam> shouldn't user belong to users group by default?
[13:55] <anddam> I want to let local client rsync to a folder in /srv so I'm tihnking of adding them to users and make the folder group-writeable
[14:00] <Haris> on 14.04 lts, what does one do if apache2 is not loading envvars?
[14:00] <anddam> switch to nginx?
[14:01] <akik> anddam: please don't suggest things like that
[14:01] <anddam> it was meant as funny remark
[14:01] <akik> !funny
[14:02] <anddam> but I have all the contempt of this world for apache httpd documentation, it's always been hell to read
[14:02] <anddam> duly noted
[14:03] <Pici> Haris: What exactly do you mean that apache2 is not loading envvars? What are you trying to accomplish?
[14:03] <Haris> pici: apache is returning zero sized response
[14:03] <Haris> as per the client end
[14:04] <RxMcDonald> Hi, anyone knows if it's possible to add ubuntu into my CPU?
[14:04] <Pici> Haris: and why do you think that is an env variable problem?
[14:04] <Haris> within the local server, apache is working ok. but its responses are not reaching outside the machine
[14:05] <Haris> when I manually run apache2, it complains saying;
[14:05] <Haris> AH00526: Syntax error on line 74 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf:
[14:05] <Haris> Invalid Mutex directory in argument file:${APACHE_LOCK_DIR}
[14:05] <RxMcDonald> Is there a way to make ubuntu work inside the CPU of the computer?
[14:05] <Haris> when I start apache, it starts ok, but its responses are only available on the server itself. Not on the Network
[14:05] <Pici> Haris: how did you start apache?
[14:05] <tarball> hello everyone! what is the correct format of dd wipe command so that I don't get 'no space left on device'?
[14:06] <Haris> I ran /etc/init.d/apache2 restart for normal start. I ran apache manually by running 'apache2'
[14:07] <Pici> Haris: try stopping your apache2 processes and then using sudo service apache2 start instead.
[14:07] <mrnull_> Has anybody installed opensuse on MacBook pro?
[14:07] <mrnull_> sry
[14:07] <Pici> mrnull_: probably, but thats not really a topic for #ubuntu ;)
[14:07] <mrnull_> I mean ubuntu :|
[14:08] <mrnull_> Just trying to find a distro to install on my laptop
[14:09] <Haris> I stopped apache service. no processes are running
[14:10] <Haris> but, when I restart apache, the situation is same
[14:10] <Haris> I checked netstat -na output. I checked ps auxwwww|less output
[14:10] <Pici> Haris: and you started it using the service command?
[14:10] <Haris> no
[14:10] <Haris> using the init script
[14:10] <Haris> trying with service command
[14:12] <Haris> apache restarted with service command. its getting request. sending response. but its response is not leaving the machine
[14:13] <Haris> its like having an outbound firewall on the box
[14:13] <Haris> but iptables rules are empty
[14:13] <AndChat106409> Hry what firmware do I need for realtek wifi?
[14:14] <AndChat106409> I want to download a deb package(via ubuntu site on a phone) install it and use wifi
[14:15] <AndChat106409> i'm not sure I only need firmware-realtek or somethinf else
[14:16] <AndChat106409> Thr package is there for sure given rpi works just fine with this wifi
[14:17] <ikonia> ubuntu site on a phone ??
[14:17] <ikonia> packages aren't hosted on the ubuntu site
[14:17] <tarball> solved, found a post here: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33360920/dd-command-error-writing-no-space-left-on-device
[14:17] <AndChat106409> Well you can download tgem
[14:17] <ikonia> AndChat106409: there are no deb on the ubuntu site
[14:17] <AndChat106409> ikonia just like you can download debian packages on debian site
[14:17] <ikonia> what ?
[14:17] <AndChat106409> You never did that?
[14:18] <ikonia> what is the problem you are actually trying to solve ?
[14:18] <ducasse> AndChat106409: which ubuntu version is this?
[14:18] <AndChat106409> 16.10
[14:18] <akik> AndChat106409: do you mean this site? http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[14:18] <AndChat106409> Yeah
[14:19] <AndChat106409> On debian I rember it's possible to download the deb package
[14:19] <ducasse> !info firmware-realtek yakkety
[14:19] <ducasse> AndChat106409: ^^
[14:20] <Haris> Pici: Still same
[14:22] <Castor_T> i have xubuntu and i would like to replace it with ubuntu
[14:22] <Castor_T> how do i go about it /
[14:23] <anddam> don't they differ only in XFCE vs GNOME?
[14:23] <Castor_T> in gparted, i see that there is a seperate partition for home
[14:23] <Castor_T> how would i know in which partition xubuntu was installed ?
[14:23] <anddam> Castor_T: if you don't mind losing current setting you can just install on root
[14:24] <anddam> Castor_T:   mount | grep " / "
[14:24] <anddam> or     lsblk -f   and check the mountpoint /
[14:24] <Castor_T> mount | grep " / "
[14:24] <anddam> yes, that's the command I suggested
[14:24] <Castor_T>    /dev/sda4 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)
[14:24] <ducasse> Castor_T: just install ubuntu-desktop, then remove xfce later if you want to
[14:24] <Castor_T> it returned. ^^
[14:24] <anddam> there you go
[14:25] <pimpMyNick> I want to lock one of my hard disk partition so that no one can see its contents rather cthan me. Is there any way in ubuntu?
[14:25] <anddam> Castor_T: I'd do just what ducasse suggested
[14:25] <Castor_T> a few days ago i downloaded ubuntu and burnt the iso in a bootable usb
[14:25] <SwedeMike> pimpMyNick: yes, permissions and encryption.
[14:25] <Castor_T> how to do what ducasse suggeted ? i hve bootable iso
[14:25] <anddam> ducasse: he won't listen anymore, he's a reformatting-machine-on-a-mission now
[14:26] <pimpMyNick> SwedeMike, a bit more explanation would be helpful. Thanks
[14:26] <ducasse> Castor_T: you don't need any iso
[14:26] <anddam> Castor_T: ubuntu-desktop is likely a package, do you know how to install packages?
[14:26] <Castor_T> double click some .deb file ?
[14:26] <anddam> ducasse: btw how's the conflict in session manager (if any) resolved?
[14:27] <anddam> ducasse: I mean assuming xfce isn't using gdm
[14:27] <ducasse> Castor_T: 'sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop', then log out and select unity from the menu
[14:27] <Castor_T> the reason i want to go to ubuntu is because every time i boot into xubuntu, i see an alert asking me to report a problem. its annonying
[14:27] <anddam> I'd rather fix that issue than change DE
[14:27] <Castor_T> can you guide me how to do that anddam ?
[14:28] <ducasse> anddam: not session manager, display manager. lightdm has a menu for selecting which one you want.
[14:28] <SwedeMike> pimpMyNick: you can change permissions with "chown" and "chmod" where the partition is mounted, so only you can enter the directory. You can encrypt the drive so that you have to unlock it with a password on boot/mount.
[14:29] <pimpMyNick> thanks SwedeMike
[14:29] <anddam> ducasse: isn't GNOME default using gdm?
[14:29]  * anddam checks processes
[14:29] <anddam> ah my bad
[14:30] <ducasse> anddam: ubuntu default is not gnome
[14:30] <anddam> ducasse: mmm maybe I meant Unity?
[14:30] <Castor_T> $ sudo rm /var/crash/* says command not found ?
[14:30] <anddam> I'm on that anyway
[14:30] <anddam> Castor_T: solving the issue? not sure since I don't know what it is
[14:30] <ducasse> anddam: yep, and that uses lightdm, same as xfce
[14:31] <Castor_T> according to an article i was reading, i see some files in crash
[14:31] <anddam> ducasse: ok, I'm aware a single DM can handle different session, but what for a package that would pull a different DM?
[14:31] <Castor_T> i will remove them and restart
[14:31] <anddam> mmm I figure those packages would have a conflict
[14:31] <Castor_T> removed the crash files, i will check on next restart
[14:31] <Castor_T> also, do any of you use dropbox on xubuntu ?
[14:32] <ducasse> anddam: and will ask you which dm you want if one is already installed
[14:32] <ducasse> *and=it
[14:33] <anddam> like in a package configure step?
[14:34] <tarball> hello again, I suppose I can run memtest from bios, too, without a hdd, right?
[14:35] <anddam> tarball: unlikely
[14:35] <anddam> tarball: unless you mean UEFI in place of BIOS
[14:35] <ducasse> tarball: you need to boot some image that has it
[14:35] <anddam> tarball: I'd suggest a live system with memtest
[14:36] <anddam> ducasse: UEFI should able to run PE programs directly, so he could copy it on ESP and jump into EFI shell
[14:36] <tarball> anddam, ah, all right. thank you!
[14:37] <ducasse> anddam: he would still need media for that, he asked "without hdd"
[14:37] <anddam> oh right!
[14:37] <anddam> and left without a clue on how bad my advice was
[14:39] <xixunier> I have a partition which I want to encrypt, but there a catch "without removing the data" ?
[14:39] <xixunier> the same , what to do for the home partition ?
[14:40] <Akuw> i just installed evoluspencil but when try to drag and drop not working
[14:40] <DaemeonZane> Anyone having issues installing the 378.13 NVidia open source driver in 16.04?
[14:40] <AndChat106409> anddam I pulled the wifi out and in
[14:40] <AndChat106409> DaemonZane 378.13 isn't the open source driver
[14:41] <DaemeonZane> It's labeled as such on-screen
[14:41] <AndChat106409> It's closed source and yes I have in ubuntu 16.10 ,but I'm propably a dumbass
[14:41] <DaemeonZane> Lol
[14:41] <AndChat106409> And didn't update && upgrade
[14:41] <phucthyn> â
[14:41] <AndChat106409> So propablly xorg is too old
[14:41] <AndChat106409> Although not sure why my gtx 1050 wasn't picked up in driver manager
[14:41] <DaemeonZane> I did both prior to selecting the driver
[14:42] <DaemeonZane> Mine wasn't either.
[14:42] <mrhall> hello
[14:42] <AndChat106409> Only intel-microcode was there
[14:42] <DaemeonZane> I have a 1050ti
[14:42] <phucthyn> What is IRC ?
[14:43] <Akuw> what applications there to prototype android apps?
[14:43] <DaemeonZane> IRC is home to the devil himself, free thinking. It's also chat.
[14:43] <mrhall> question, i want install mysql and i do sudo apt-get install mysql
[14:43] <AndChat106409> Mostly satan though
[14:43] <AndChat106409> mrhall mariadb is now the mysql replacment afaik
[14:43] <AndChat106409> Try that
[14:44] <AndChat106409> Or do mysql-(mysql version)
[14:44] <AndChat106409> F.e. mysql-5.5
[14:44] <AndChat106409> Or smthn
[14:44] <DarkPsydeLord> IRC is home of some twisted people that have delusional thoughts about everything... also a good place to meet people and get support
[14:44] <mrhall> thanks! AndChat106409
[14:44] <mrhall> its works!
[14:45] <DaemeonZane> AndChat106409: So here's the question: since the install is stuck and hasn't proceeded in half an hour, how to I unbork it without reinstalling yet again?
[14:45] <AndChat106409> I think I will reinstall ubuntu and install something else
[14:45] <AndChat106409> Dmesg showed up on tty
[14:45] <DaemeonZane> I'm lazy and haven't the energy to screw with yet another reinstall
[14:45] <AndChat106409> And flodded during apt upgrade
[14:46] <AndChat106409> For the first time bios has picked up my screen resolution though
[14:46] <DaemeonZane> Last time this happened I killed the updater, rebooted, and got the lovely looping login
[14:46] <phucthyn> How do I uninstall the JDownloader 2 ?
[14:47] <DaemeonZane> Carefully.
[14:47] <anddam> what component is responsible for media disks auto-mounting?
[14:47] <anddam> in Unity I mean
[14:47] <ppf> automounting when and where?
[14:48] <DaemeonZane> anddam: http://askubuntu.com/questions/89244/how-to-disable-automount-in-nautiluss-preferences
[14:48] <xixunier> I have a partition which I want to encrypt, but there a catch "without removing the data" ?
[14:48] <DaemeonZane> Is that what you mean?
[14:48] <xixunier> the same , what to do for the home partition ?
[14:49] <DaemeonZane> Xixunier: can you move the data elsewhere during the partition encryption?
[14:50] <gaurav2> hi anyone please help me I have one online site it only support internet explorer and java. then how can I run that site on ubuntu
[14:50] <anddam> DaemeonZane: no
[14:51] <xixunier> DaemeonZane: ok
[14:51] <xixunier> so there is no alternate way?
[14:51] <DaemeonZane> Xixunier: You can use LUKS or ecryptfs. An alternate is to simply encrypt the data and not all of /home. Take a look at cryptkeeper or truecrypt.
[14:51] <gaurav2> my company want to switch on ubuntu but if that site work then we can switch all computers on ubuntu
[14:52] <anddam> that's the config for setting automount, I'd like to understand how the automount works, something is likely notified by udev events but what's it?
[14:52] <ppf> gaurav2: try it in firefox?
[14:52] <gaurav2> yes
[14:52] <anddam> also my question arised from the need to assign a particular mount option, like uid=<current user>
[14:53] <ducasse> xixunier: ecryptfs has a script that will encrypt your homedir, as long as it has space for another copy of all the data
[14:53] <mrhall> command to clean soft remove?
[14:54] <gaurav2> I try it on Firefox and on Firefox it show some security error so site can't open my company's all work is depend on that site if it work then all computers will switch Microsoft to ubuntu
[14:54] <DaemeonZane> Well christ on a rusty crutch
[14:55] <AndChat106409> Cool grub didn't installed this time
[14:55] <AndChat106409> I guess I won't "install and upgrade"
[14:55] <mrhall> what is the command to clean installations or removes?
[14:57] <DaemeonZane> Well Software and Updates just took a damn nose dive, and now dpkg --configure -a gripes about shim-signed
[14:58] <DaemeonZane> All this bs just so I can use my 1050ti
[14:59] <anddam> is there a CLI tool to diff directories
[14:59] <anddam> I mean something specific rather than a recursive diff -rqa
[15:00] <ppf> anddam: what's wrong with diff then?
[15:00] <DaemeonZane> Screw it. Just apt-get --purge removed everything Nvidia from the system. Has anyone with an NVIDIA 1050 or higher gotten the driver to work in the latest LTS?
[15:01] <ducasse> anddam: second hit on ddg - http://askubuntu.com/questions/12473/file-and-directory-comparison-tool
[15:01] <DarkPsydeLord> anddam, vimdiff?
[15:03] <gaurav2> how can I open java base secure site on Firefox
[15:04] <AndChat106409> Fun
[15:04] <tonyt> i have a duel boot set up between ubuntu and windows 10. i shut the computer off last night from ubuntu last night. i turn the machine on this morning and boot into win 10. every time i do that the time is always off win windows 10 and i have to go into the control panel to update the time. is there a way to fix that?
[15:06] <DaemeonZane> Shoot Bill Gates for being an anti-*nix twit.
[15:07] <DaemeonZane> AndChat106409: check out http://pastebin.com/gaXkvU25
[15:07] <DaemeonZane> Sorry
[15:07] <AndChat106409> This page has been removed
[15:07] <DarkPsydeLord> tonyt, windows store the time as local in the hardware clock and most linux systems store that as utc
[15:08] <DaemeonZane> http://pastebin.com/gaXkvU2S
[15:08] <DaemeonZane> My bad
[15:08] <AndChat106409> sudo
[15:09] <DaemeonZane> Su
[15:09] <AndChat106409> Ah i see
[15:09] <AndChat106409> ps -aux | grep dpkg
[15:09] <DaemeonZane> Whenever I have to run a bunch of crap I just su the terminal until I'm done. Makes life easier
[15:09] <AndChat106409> You have apt running
[15:09] <DarkPsydeLord> tonyt, just make your ubuntu work in local time same as windows edit /etc/default/rcS and change the #set UTC=yes to UTC=no
[15:09] <hateball> DaemeonZane: I run 1070 with PPA driver, works fine
[15:09] <AndChat106409> So propablly ubuntus update manager is updating stuff
[15:10] <hateball> DaemeonZane: But I do not use such things as secure boot or encryption
[15:10] <azizLIGHT> can someone on 14.04 tell me output of apt-cache policy qtcore4-l10n
[15:10] <azizLIGHT> thx
[15:10] <mrhall> hello someone know the command to clean installation or removes?
[15:10] <DarkPsydeLord> tonyt, or depending on your ubuntu version just timedatectl set-local-rtc 1 if you have ubuntu 16.04
[15:11] <DaemeonZane> hateball: I have to use the SecureBoot unfortunately.
[15:11] <hateball> DaemeonZane: Then you are in for some pain
[15:12] <DaemeonZane> AndChat106409: http://pastebin.com/ZVGdjdqb
[15:12] <anddam> ducasse: ah thx
[15:12] <AndChat106409> DaemeonZane you can't install multiple packages at once
[15:12] <azizLIGHT> anyone wana do my command real quick pls :)
[15:13] <anddam> DarkPsydeLord: not very handy for directory trees
[15:13] <AndChat106409> They are installed one by one
[15:13] <DaemeonZane> I'm not.
[15:13] <hateball> DaemeonZane: you need to disable validation with mokutil iirc
[15:13] <DaemeonZane> Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
[15:13] <hateball> DaemeonZane: and that'll let the nvidia installer finish
[15:13] <DarkPsydeLord> anddam, thats also true but worth the shot to try
[15:13] <DaemeonZane> Sonofa*************!*@*$€@€$*@**$*$*$
[15:13] <DaemeonZane> Have I mentioned that I hate SecureBoot?
[15:13] <azizLIGHT> pls anyone on 14.04
[15:14] <anddam> DarkPsydeLord: I use vimdiff quite often, it's not the tool I'm looking for, I want something that is fs-aware, that browser subfolders and all
[15:14] <azizLIGHT> :) :D
[15:14] <azizLIGHT> O/
[15:15] <azizLIGHT> o7
[15:15] <DaemeonZane> AndChat106409: I tried to purge all things nvidia prior to running that command
[15:15] <DaemeonZane> That's probably why all the extra packages are showing.
[15:16] <DarkPsydeLord> anddam, what about unison or meld they are not cli based but maybe will help you
[15:16] <DaemeonZane> hateball: I'll give it a shot. Once I have it up and running, can I sign and re-enable the damn SecureBoot or am I stuck with it off?
[15:16] <DaemeonZane> Not that I want to, but it's by request
[15:17] <hateball> DaemeonZane: it doesnt disable secureboot, it just says it does. you cant do that in software, it would defeat the whole point of it
[15:17] <azizLIGHT> common anyone
[15:18] <DaemeonZane> Lol
[15:18] <ducasse> DaemeonZane: it disables kernel module validation. the alternative is to sign the modules yourself every time they are rebuilt.
[15:18] <ducasse> !patience | azizLIGHT
[15:18] <DaemeonZane> Understood. I just haven't had enough coffee this morning to *nix properly. :p
[15:19] <azizLIGHT> its a simple acommand i wanna compare with my own system's output
[15:19] <ducasse> azizLIGHT: then wait for someone to respond, stop nagging
[15:19] <azizLIGHT> ok
[15:20] <ducasse> azizLIGHT: what is it you need from the output?
[15:20] <azizLIGHT> the output itself
[15:20] <azizLIGHT> i want to see which repo and the version name
[15:20] <anddam> how do I tell the system "mount this device, if available"? auto will mount and hang the boot if not available, noauto won't mount it at all
[15:20] <anddam> this is not a user-session mount, I'm talking about fstab
[15:21] <ducasse> !info qtcore4-l10n trusty | azizLIGHT this is the official version
[15:21] <azizLIGHT> wow thanks
[15:21] <azizLIGHT> apprecaited
[15:21] <ducasse> azizLIGHT: np
[15:21] <llutz> anddam: use nofail,nobootwait   options in /etc/fstab
[15:22] <azizLIGHT> any ideas why it says git in there
[15:22] <anddam> llutz: thanks
[15:22] <azizLIGHT> instead of ubuntu like 80% of packages
[15:23] <anddam> llutz: where's nobootwait documented? it's not in fstab(5) nor in mount(8)
[15:24] <llutz> anddam: sorry, nobootwait is a grub boot-option, not a mount-option. my bad
[15:24] <RonWhoCares> I saved a file to my desktop.  The icon isn't displaying. I have 2 screens on my computer. Roughly 1368 x 800 and 1920 x 1080.  The primary display is on the smaller screen.  I think it exists, but where I can't see it
[15:24] <anddam> llutz: good habit of checking man pages
[15:25] <llutz> anddam: true
[15:25] <anddam> this UEFI implementation sucks, I cannot properly set bootorder, it keeps duplicating boot entries on reboot
[15:26] <anddam> I just installed the system and I have to switch to efi shell every time and start the grubx64 shim by hand
[15:30] <webly> hi
[15:30] <webly> Why was "eth0" changed to "ens33"? :)
[15:30] <webly> I experienced this change in Ubuntu (used Debian before).
[15:31] <pavlos>  anddam nobootwait exists in 14.04 fstab manpage but not in the 16.04 man page ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/786928/ubuntu-16-04-fstab-fails-with-nobootwait
[15:31] <ducasse> webly: it's called 'persistent device naming'
[15:32] <webly> ducasse: so each interface gets a less generic, more targeted name?
[15:33] <w9qbj>  one that we can't possibly remember
[15:33] <ducasse> webly: yes, if you google it there is a long explanation on the systemd site
[15:33] <tgm4883> cause that's what I do with my free time, try to remember interface names...
[15:34] <ducasse> w9qbj: many tools have tab expansion of if names
[15:35] <DaemeonZane> I'm gonna have one more go at this with SecureBoot, and if it doesn't work, I'm gonna kill this stupid computer...
[15:37] <mahakal> Hi Guys,i want to root my android smartphone ..How to do this on ubuntu
[15:38] <ducasse> DaemeonZane: run 'sudo mokutil --disable-validation', reboot, choose to disable validation when the mokmanager comes up.
[15:38] <ducasse> mahakal: ask in ##android
[15:38] <skinux> Is Dash actually an application of it's own that is called when we press the Ubuntu button/icon?
[15:38] <AndChat106409> Checked uefi settings
[15:38] <AndChat106409> Turns out installing ubuntu/updating intel-microcode enabled secure uefi
[15:39] <DaemeonZane> ducasse: I did all that, and though it installed I now have the stupid login loop
[15:39] <ducasse> DaemeonZane: reinstall or rebuild the driver
[15:40] <ash_workz> skinux: lol, I interpreted that as the debian alchemist shell.
[15:41] <Haris> what can cause apache to not be able to transmit port 80 responses to remote clients ?
[15:43] <webly> ducasse: so this eth0 renaming is also a systemd thing? But in Debian (which got also systemd now) this renaming wasn't done. Why the difference?
[15:43] <anddam> pavlos: yep, seems nofail is the current "replacement"
[15:44] <ducasse> webly: it hadn't happened yet when jessie was released, dunno about stretch
[15:48] <tgm4883> webly: you can disable it
[15:49] <webly> tgm4883: is it a good idea disabling it? :)
[15:49] <tgm4883> webly: I would say no, but it's a preference thing I guess
[15:49] <pavlos> webly, http://www.itzgeek.com/how-tos/mini-howtos/change-default-network-name-ens33-to-old-eth0-on-ubuntu-16-04.html
[15:50] <ducasse> webly: as it is the new standard for almost all distros, it's probably better to just get used to it
[15:57] <pandaadb> hi - random quick question :) With process priority, is root automatically on a higher priority so that if i executed something as root it would be prefered?
[15:57] <pandaadb> Or are all of them the same unless you specify it?
[15:57] <DaemeonZane> So I just said to hell with it, backed up he keys and disabled SecureBoot in the UEFI Bios. It skipped the GRUN menu and booted WinDoze, so I'm reinstalling.
[15:58] <DaemeonZane> If I can get it reinstalled, redo the stupid Nvidia driver, and all that, should I not be able to turn SecureBoot back on in the bios?
[15:59] <ducasse> DaemeonZane: then you need to sign the modules and add the key to the mok
[15:59] <ThomasTang> ls
[15:59] <ThomasTang> lsa
[15:59] <DaemeonZane> Sweet. Ok.
[16:00] <zen> pandaadb: you may be interested in looking at niceness (man 2 nice)
[16:00] <DaemeonZane> Long story short, I can turn it back on and my client will be none the wiser unless he has to update the driver later
[16:00] <stevessss> so.. is ubuntu ditching xorg for mir or another display server?
[16:00] <scottjl> pandaadb: unless specified, all are set at 10 (man nice)
[16:00] <pandaadb> okay - thank you
[16:00] <pandaadb> i think mine somehow all have 19
[16:00] <ducasse> DaemeonZane: no, if you turn it on the driver won't load
[16:00] <pandaadb> using: ps -e -o uid,pid,ppid,pri,ni,cmd
[16:01] <DaemeonZane> Well crap. Guess he's S.O.L. then.
[16:01] <DaemeonZane> Thanks bro (assuming you're a bro)
[16:02] <ducasse> stevessss: unity 8 will use mir, if you don't use that it won't affect you
[16:02] <stevessss> for me.. no xorg means no xpra, and ssh -X
[16:02] <stevessss> and no Xnest
[16:02] <ducasse> DaemeonZane: you/he _can_ sign yourself, as i said
[16:02] <stevessss> will unity 8 break network transpearant guis?
[16:02] <DaemeonZane> Yeah. I'll try that option first.
[16:02] <stevessss> or remote X apps over gig-ethernet?
[16:03] <DaemeonZane> He's stupid paranoid about rootkits and the loke
[16:03] <DaemeonZane> *like
[16:03] <stevessss> will I now have to start tweaking ubuntu every time I install it to ren-enable thist stuff that used to work by default?
[16:03] <ducasse> stevessss: no idea, i only know many of these things work with wayland
[16:04] <stevessss> also.. will half the new beta Xorg graphics drivers not work with mir?
[16:04] <stevessss> ever since 1998 I've been able to download the nvidia driver for the latest nvidia of the day and get close to windows or mac 3d performance if not better
[16:04] <stevessss> and it took 10 mins to run the .sh file
[16:05] <ducasse> stevessss: you can continue to use unity 7, anyway unity 8 is a long way off
[16:05] <ducasse> stevessss: (and that is the wrong way to install the nvidia driver)
[16:06] <stevessss> yeah. with ubuntu you enable 3rd party proprietary drivers and it works
[16:08] <anddam> on the newly installed system I have a "silent" grub, I don't see the menu or any booting sign until Xorg starts
[16:08] <Haris> guys, is there some firewall other than iptables on iptables on 14.04 ?
[16:08] <anddam>  /etc/default/grub is default as it is on my laptop, where instead I do see the grub menu
[16:08] <anddam> what could be causing the difference?
[16:09] <Haris> apparmor ? can apparmor be responsible for stopping apache from sending out responses to remote clients ?
[16:09] <stevessss> so.. will unity 8 give me no choice but to use mir?
[16:09] <Haris> how to check if apparmor is blocking apache outbound traffic ?
[16:09] <stevessss> in a few years when it becomes the default standard?
[16:10] <ducasse> stevessss: who said it will become the new standard?
[16:10] <stevessss> so in 5 years when all unity has used mir for a couple years... will I have to use several year old unity
[16:10] <stevessss> so I can use unity8 with plain old Xorg right?
[16:10] <ducasse> stevessss: no
[16:10] <stevessss> and ubuntu is keeping unity
[16:10] <stevessss> so the ubuntu standard will be mir
[16:10] <ducasse> stevessss: but nobody has said unity 8 will replace 7
[16:10] <stevessss> unless I want to switch to kde or gnome or my favorite windowmaker
[16:11] <stevessss> the version numbering will convince devs that once 8 has been out for a couple years its the only one they need to support
[16:11] <stevessss> because 8 is higher than 7
[16:12] <ducasse> stevessss: nonsense. sabdfl has said the community will choose if they want unity 7 or 8 when 8 is ready
[16:12] <AndChat106409> DaemonZane graphixs-drivers/ppa
[16:12] <AndChat106409> Ah nvm
[16:13] <AndChat106409> *hics
[16:16] <Haris> perhaps its apparmor on ubuntu blocking apache outbound traffic ? how to check ?
[16:17] <ducasse> Haris: read logs
[16:17] <Haris> where does it keep its log(s) ?
[16:17] <ducasse> Haris: /var/log/apache probably
[16:17] <Haris> hmm
[16:18] <Haris> there's mod-sec log there. but no apparmor log
[16:18] <Haris> mod_sec is not enable, afaict
[16:18] <Haris> enabled+
[16:19] <ducasse> Haris: apparmor logs somewhere in /var/log, can't remember which one
[16:19] <ducasse> Haris: auth.log or syslog, possibly
[16:19] <Haris> checking
[16:21] <Haris> how to troubleshoot apache .. short of re-installing it ? there's no syntax error in config, no selinux, no iptables rules
[16:22] <Haris> nothing going in syslog or auth.log when I send request to apache
[16:22] <ducasse> Haris: ask in #httpd
[16:23] <noobkilervip> Hi
[16:24] <noobkilervip> im trying to setup openstack
[16:24] <noobkilervip> is there any premade isos
[16:24] <pavlos> Haris, logs may be in /var/log/apache2/
[16:25] <OerHeks> Haris, 'sudo ufw allow http'  and see if it works
[16:25] <Haris> pavlos: no update to logs there, other than one liner for the request that was received, and the size of response that was sent
[16:25] <Haris> hm
[16:26] <Haris> # ufw status
[16:26] <Haris> Status: inactive
[16:27] <amazoniantoad> I'm wanting to distribute individual network streams over multiple network adapters. Would ubuntubonding help me accomplish this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[16:27] <OerHeks>  sudo ufw allow 'Apache Full' ( this one i was looking for)
[16:30] <happyfr0gg> I need help in fixing GPG - No Pub key errors via Synaptic and apt.
[16:31] <happyfr0gg> Y PPA Manager does not fix.
[16:32] <CrazyTux> how can I chat on ##linux on freenode?
[16:33] <w9qbj> CrazyTux, easy /join ##linux
[16:33] <Haris> CrazyTux: go to #help or #freenode-help or #freenode for this query
[16:34] <Zink> hello i have been struggling with this problem for 2 days now
[16:34] <happyfr0gg> CrazyTux - type in without quotes: " /join ##linux ".
[16:34] <Zink> whenever i do apt-get update i get this warning
[16:34] <Zink> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'universe/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[16:35] <CrazyTux> I am getting this response.    ##linux :Cannot send to channel
[16:35] <Pici> CrazyTux: you need to register and identify to speak there.
[16:35] <Pici> !register | CrazyTux
[16:36] <lerner> what media player can I use to play a non fully downloaded file?
[16:36] <lerner> mkv or mp4
[16:37] <happyfr0gg> OerHeks, are you still in here?
[16:37] <Zink> anybody help ?
[16:38] <anddam> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Timed_Display isn't very clear
[16:38] <anddam> what are the 1. and 2. cases something that's selectable with an option?
[16:40] <anddam> in "Normal Hidden Operations Enabled" screen remains blank for GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT seconds and the user may display the menu by using any key, so if GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is 0 the user won't be able to display the menu at all
[16:41] <Zink> help me plz get rid of this warning: W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'universe/binary-amd64/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[16:41] <anddam> but in "Hidden Menu Operations Not Expected (Abnormal)" seems the user can use shift hold-down at boot or Esc during a three seconds window to display the menu
[16:42] <anddam> do these shift and esc access always work, overriding GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT?
[16:43] <anddam> Zink: show your sources.list
[16:43] <Zink> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main universe restricted multiverse
[16:43] <Zink> thats my sources.list anddam
[16:44] <noobkilervip> How
[16:45] <noobkilervip> hi
[16:45] <noobkilervip> how do i setup openstack
[16:45] <noobkilervip> why do it need so much ram
[16:46] <anddam> Zink: looks fine
[16:47] <happyfr0gg> How can I fix the GPG No Pub key errors in Synaptic and apt?
[16:47] <happyfr0gg> I have tried Y-PPA Manager and the errors persist.
[16:48] <Zink> i think it's fine as well, i thought i could ignore the thing since it's just a warning but i have had problems installing many packages
[16:48] <happyfr0gg> I have also tried some steps outlined at ---> https://askubuntu.com/a/15272 but the errors still persist.
[16:55] <nacc> happyfr0gg: can you show the output you are referring to in a pastebin?
[16:55] <happyfr0gg> yes. Please give me a minute.
[16:57] <ngomes> anyone with chromium apparmor profile working ?
[16:58] <ojatko> hello everyone, chkrootkit output gives these lines that I posted together, each with an unusual remark, should I worry? https://paste.ubuntu.com/24059537
[16:58] <svalcken> Hello, i need little help. I have tryed a upgrade from 14.04 lts to 16.04 lts. the updatescript breaks in depency. the apt was to old. how can i update 14.04 lts to 14.04.4/5 lts? Can any help me?
[16:59] <happyfr0gg> nacc, ---> http://pastebin.com/MAtLXe7Z
[16:59] <LinuxNoobie65> Can anybody point me to a step by step on signing my own kernel modules?
[17:00] <Menzador> svalcken: If apt isn't broken, you should do [ sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade ] before performing a release upgrade
[17:00] <nacc> svalcken: you first ensure that your 14.04 is fully up to date. By updatescript do you mean do-release-upgrade?
[17:00] <nacc> happyfr0gg: looking
[17:01] <Tapmemer> hello
[17:03] <svalcken> nacc: yes. the current version is 14.04. apt is to old. all updates done. but the apt version is to old. i think i must update to 14.04.x befor i try to go 16.04. the kernel is 3.13 and during 14.04.2 the kernel and hes was added.
[17:04] <nacc> svalcken: updating 14.04 (dist-upgrade with apt-get or full-upgrade with apt) is sufficient to get to 14.04.5 in all software
[17:04] <nacc> svalcken: you are running an unsupported kernel, but that's orthogonal
[17:04] <Tapmemer> hello
[17:04] <Tapmemer> i have a problem
[17:05] <Tapmemer> my ubuntu mate on raspberry pi is not updating for some reason
[17:05] <svalcken> not realy. the kernel 3.13 is from 14.04 lts with support april 2019
[17:05] <nacc> svalcken: iirc, do-release-upgrade's first task is to upgrade apt itself so that it's compatible
[17:06] <nacc> svalcken: err, yes, sorry, 3.13 is fine, i misread
[17:06] <svalcken> here the message from upgrade script: The required dependency 'apt (>= 1.0.1ubuntu2.13)' is not installed.
[17:07] <nacc> svalcken: again, do you mean `do-release-upgrade`?
[17:07] <nacc> svalcken: then you are not fully up to date in trusty
[17:07] <svalcken> i think i need the upgrade to 14.04.4 or 5 befor i can do the do-release-upgrade
[17:07] <nacc> svalcken: as 1.0.1ubuntu2.17 is in trusty-updates
[17:08] <nacc> svalcken: as i've been saying, you *are* on 14.04.5 if you have kept your trusty up to date
[17:08] <nacc> svalcken: they are just respins of the ISO with HWE stacks
[17:08] <nacc> svalcken: but the repositories are the same
[17:08] <happyfr0gg> nacc, here is another paste --> http://pastebin.com/vL25PBSa
[17:08] <anddam> I don't get why two 16.04 system, both UEFI only with same default grub config have a different behavior wrt menu display
[17:08] <nacc> happyfr0gg: how did you add your PPAs?
[17:08] <svalcken> im not on .5. im am on 14.04 lts without subminor
[17:09] <nacc> svalcken: then you have not kept it up to date with `apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade`
[17:09] <nacc> svalcken: either that or you don't understand how trusty works.
[17:09] <ducasse> svalcken: it doesn't matter, if you are up to date you will have a new enough apt
[17:09] <nacc> svalcken: where do you see 14.04 without any suffix?
[17:09] <happyfr0gg> Some of them I used apt and some I used Synaptic Package Manager.
[17:09] <nacc> happyfr0gg: add-apt-repository does the right thing for PPAs (at least in 16.04 and on), I've never used anythign else
[17:10] <nacc> happyfr0gg: it seems like those last two apt-key responses indicate those keys were added
[17:10] <nacc> happyfr0gg: you might need to do that for all the keys
[17:10] <svalcken> the apt give me no updates. and yes without suffix
[17:11] <ioria> svalcken, apt-cache policy apt     what tells you ?
[17:11] <nacc> svalcken: 'yes without suffix' does not tell me *where* you see this.
[17:11] <happyfr0gg> nacc, I have followed installation procedures from Launchpad.
[17:13] <happyfr0gg> What string of command(s) could I type in to automate each of the supposedly missing GPG Pub keys? I don't want to do each of them individually. That is tedious.
[17:13] <svalcken> in the lsb_release file, lsb_release command, and a Ubuntu Webside with Release details give me the same information, 14.04 LTS has Kernel 3.13. 14.04.2 and above adds HES support and will not automatic update.
[17:13] <nacc> svalcken: the latter is misunderstanding of what that page says on your part
[17:14] <nacc> svalcken: please provide the above `apt-cache policy apt` output
[17:14] <nacc> svalcken: the HWE *kernel* does not get update after 14.04.5 releases
[17:14] <nacc> svalcken: the 14.04.2 HWE kernel
[17:14] <OerHeks> happyfr0gg, as i wrote hours back::  i would clean the lists and reload them again, mucho faster >>>  sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:15] <OerHeks> the keys are there, and the lists are malformed i guess
[17:15] <nacc> svalcken: but 14.04.2 non-HWE-kernel, non-HWE-X all goes through the same repositories as every 14.04.* (including 14.04.0)
[17:15] <svalcken> apt-cache policy says current installed 1.0.1ubuntu2. and older version 0.9.9 also avail but not installed
[17:15] <happyfr0gg> OerHeks, does ' sudo apt-get upgrade ' upgrade my 14.04 to 16.04?
[17:15] <nacc> svalcken: then you don't have either security or updates enabled
[17:15] <ioria> !infoapt trusty
[17:16] <ioria> !info apt trusty
[17:16] <nacc> svalcken: which is a terrible mistake if so
[17:16] <kubast2> happyfr0gg, no
[17:16] <nacc> svalcken: at least the security choice is
[17:16] <OerHeks> happyfr0gg, no
[17:16] <svalcken> apt:
[17:16] <svalcken>   Installiert:           1.0.1ubuntu2
[17:16] <svalcken>   Installationskandidat: 1.0.1ubuntu2
[17:16] <svalcken>   Versionstabelle:
[17:16] <svalcken>  *** 1.0.1ubuntu2 0
[17:16] <svalcken>         500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/main amd64 Packages
[17:16] <ioria> svalcken,  can you pastebin the full output ?
[17:16] <nacc> svalcken: use a pastebin.
[17:16] <happyfr0gg> kubast2, OerHeks, okay
[17:16] <craptalk> hey man, i just wanna ask about UEFI booting read the image. i installed my ubuntu using UEFI, and when i tried to look into boot sequence, it places ubuntu at the first order, but no the name of the HDD where ubuntu is installed, is it because UEFI more flexible and can read the OS instead? and assume the every installed OSes in HDD is at prymary paritition?
[17:17] <baizon> !paste | svalcken
[17:17] <nacc> svalcken: i'm 100% sure you don't have -security enabled (at least) and probably don't have -updates enabled either.
[17:17] <vak> hi all
[17:17] <craptalk> because when i use MBR, it can only read the name of HDD where the OSes are installed
[17:18] <ducasse> craptalk: every os has a firmware variable that point to its bootloader on the disk
[17:19] <vak> which *buntu flavor is better for highly customizable "active desktop"? that is a desktop that allows to drop in plugins, monitoring tools, etc?
[17:19] <craptalk> ducasse, so that is why it is appear on the bootlist as its name instead of its location HDD?
[17:19] <craptalk> cause with previous MBR way, it got me its HDD name
[17:19] <kubast2> craptalk, ?
[17:19] <craptalk> not like ubuntu or so
[17:19] <ducasse> craptalk: yes, the name can be anything
[17:19] <craptalk> alright
[17:20] <craptalk> it got it
[17:20] <kubast2> craptalk, Uefi+mbr gets your drive name+ubuntu in boot manager afiak
[17:20] <craptalk> kubast2, no man, this is the first time i saw this
[17:20] <kubast2> craptalk, gpt+uefi partion+uefi gets your drive to normal name with (uefi) and with just your name
[17:20] <craptalk> before, it was ATA HDD bla bla
[17:21] <kubast2> craptalk, if you will encounter an error where you can't install ubuntu due to grub failing to install
[17:21] <ioria> svalcken,  would be better  paste /etc/apt/sources.list too on   paste.ubuntu.com
[17:21] <kubast2> craptalk, then you will need to go to gparted and convert your partion table to gpt/msdos ,happend to me today
[17:21] <craptalk> kubast2, are you asking or stating something?
[17:21] <kubast2> craptalk, no
[17:21] <kubast2> ",happend to me today"
[17:21] <craptalk> so far it is okay
[17:22] <craptalk> it reads the image
[17:22] <craptalk> but again i wanna ask you
[17:22] <svalcken> nacc: here Pastbin Link: http://pastebin.com/nBseRrEM
[17:22] <happyfr0gg> OerHeks, I copied and pasted your command into my terminal and the same errors persist.
[17:23] <kubast2> why it named it "ubuntu" idk like I installed ubuntu today and it got rid of mouse acceleration and increased uefi shell resolution to full hd
[17:23] <kubast2> go figure
[17:23] <craptalk> before, as this brand new machine got Free DOS, i chose erase free DOS OS and install ubuntu in fresh (*required to wipe all and install all over again), even i knew FREE DOS is empty one right?
[17:23] <ioria> svalcken,  uname -r
[17:24] <happyfr0gg> OerHeks, I will try each of your commands line-by-line, not as one string.
[17:24] <svalcken> 3.13.0-24-generic
[17:24] <kubast2> not sure what's your question craptalk
[17:24] <ioria> svalcken, you're not updated ... please paste /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:24] <ioria> svalcken,  the current kernel on trusty is 110, you're 24
[17:25] <craptalk> kubast2, when i wanted to install the ubuntu, why should i delete the FREE DOS? do they read it as kind of OS too?
[17:25] <svalcken> only: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty main universe
[17:25] <Guest68817> Hello!
[17:26] <Guest68817> My name is Wesley.
[17:26] <brunch875> Welcome, Wesley.
[17:26] <compdoc> craptalk, ubuntu offers to erase everything. having dos isnt a plus these days
[17:26] <ioria> svalcken,  it's not a functional sources.list then ... how this happened ?
[17:26] <kubast2> craptalk, FREEDOS is an OS ,mostlly you will gain some extra hard drive space
[17:26] <kubast2> compdoc, unless u are all for that retro gaming
[17:26] <compdoc> heh
[17:26] <craptalk> kubast2, alright, make sense
[17:27] <craptalk> i erased it for the brand new one
[17:27] <svalcken> ahh stop. i have overssen. mom pastbin, create
[17:27] <nacc> svalcken: as I said, you chose to not enable security and updates on trusty
[17:27] <nacc> svalcken: and for some reason kept saucy sources enabled
[17:28] <craptalk> basically, kubast2 , the only thing so far, grub-issue that happened me was about when i tried to install windows along the side with linux
[17:28] <uzjsn> how can i install the pacman package manager in ubuntu?
[17:28] <craptalk> "happened to me"
[17:28] <nacc> uzjsn: why would you want to?
[17:28] <Haris> where can I Get apache2-2.4.7-1ubuntu4.5-amd64, apache2-bin, apache2-data, apache2-utils for 14.04 ?
[17:28] <Haris> manually+ get
[17:28] <kubast2> craptalk, windows replaced grub I guess ?
[17:28] <craptalk> Haris, look for its name, and do installation with apt-get install
[17:28] <nacc> Haris: why?
[17:29] <nacc> Haris: that version of apache has security issues
[17:29] <nacc> Haris: the current trusty-security version is 2.4.7-1ubuntu4.13
[17:29] <craptalk> kubast2, correct, and gotta do the grub fix or something
[17:29] <Haris> my box can't connect directly to ubuntu repos'. need to download pkgs manually
[17:29] <uzjsn> nacc: to build arch packages
[17:29] <ducasse> !fixgrub | craptalk
[17:29] <craptalk> to let me choose between OSes before loaded up
[17:29] <svalcken> here sources.list (http://pastebin.com/1WQeU2wN) removes Comment Lines
[17:29] <kubast2> craptalk, Or use windows bootloader editor
[17:29] <kubast2> easybcd
[17:29] <nacc> uzjsn: pacman is in universe in all ubuntu
[17:30] <kubast2> you need to register though if you want to use it for free
[17:30] <nacc> svalcken: yes, that is a garbage sources.list
[17:30] <nacc> svalcken: you added trusty to saucy and called it good
[17:30] <kubast2> craptalk, it's my prefered way since some windows updates overwrite grub
[17:30] <craptalk> kubast2, anyway, i dont have intention to touch windows again, unless for gaming sometimes. but now i am good at where i am
[17:30] <nacc> svalcken: without actually doing an upgrade, afaict
[17:31] <ioria> svalcken,  are you kidding, right ?
[17:31] <craptalk> kubast2, dont you think it is kinda anoyying?
[17:31] <happyfr0gg> OerHeks, here is a new paste ---> http://pastebin.com/r60t0tpA
[17:31] <Haris> E: Can't find a source to download version '2.4.7-1ubuntu4.5' of 'apache2:amd64'
[17:31] <Haris> E: Internal error: couldn't generate list of packages to download
[17:31] <kubast2> craptalk, what is anoying ?
[17:31] <nacc> Haris: do you mean you are behind a firewall? why can't you use apt?
[17:31] <craptalk> kubast2, overwriting the grub when updates or so on
[17:31] <ioria> svalcken,  should look like this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/24059843/
[17:31] <kubast2> craptalk, I usually install one or the other
[17:31] <craptalk> like they need to live in peace
[17:31] <nacc> Haris: and taht doesn't acknowledge why you want a known vulnerable version?
[17:32] <Haris> nacc: just wanted to re-install the current installed version. no other reason
[17:32] <nacc> Haris: the current installed version is vulnerable
[17:32] <nacc> Haris: how did you install it the first time?
[17:32] <xpistos> Hey all. Is there a way I can untar a file from a bash script if the file version will change? I tried to do tar -xvf filename*.tar.gz but it errs out saying there is no such file
[17:32] <uzjsn> i cannot find the pacman package
[17:33] <ojatko> hello everyone, chkrootkit output gives these lines that I posted together, each with an unusual remark, should I worry? https://paste.ubuntu.com/24059537
[17:33] <svalcken> iaria: i try it. thanks for first help
[17:33] <nacc> !components | uzjsn: enable universe
[17:33] <Haris> my purpose is to remove and re-install apache. version no is a secondary at the moment. any applicable version is ok for me
[17:33] <craptalk> kubast2, anyway, i read the article that people complain about battery management on ubuntu, you got issue before? i used powertop but couldnt seem to get the result significantly
[17:33] <nacc> Haris: ok, so why can't you use apt?
[17:33] <Haris> I need to re-set apache or its config or its cache on the server or how it works
[17:33] <kubast2> craptalk, I have a pc
[17:33] <kubast2> craptalk, so it doesn't apply to me it's the opposite
[17:33] <nacc> Haris: it sounds like you don't know apache works if that's your list of options...
[17:33] <craptalk> kubast2, ahh, you are cool somehow then
[17:33] <kubast2> like linux likes to put my i5 at 1.6ghz
[17:34] <Haris> nacc: this box is not on my network. Its another org, another network, another people's domain of power. I'm stuck with the work on the machine
[17:34] <nacc> Haris: and reinstalling it won't reset its configuration
[17:34] <kubast2> while on windows it's 2.2-3.6ghz
[17:34] <craptalk> kubast2, but is it true somehow?
[17:34] <kubast2> when doing nothing
[17:34] <kubast2> craptalk, on laptops obsolutely
[17:34] <nacc> Haris: why does which network its on mean you can't use apt? You mean you are not allowed to use apt?
[17:34] <nacc> Haris: so this other organization is ok with their machine being insecure?
[17:34] <uzjsn> lol of course i have universe repo enabled but pacman is not there
[17:34] <nacc> uzjsn: what version of Ubuntu?
[17:34] <uzjsn> 16.10
[17:35] <nacc> !info pacman yakkety | uzjsn
[17:35] <craptalk> kubast2, damn it man, i got it like 2 hours to work with my activities which only including, coding, streaming, browsing
[17:35] <Haris> apt on this machine can't reach ubuntu repos'
[17:35] <nacc> uzjsn: lol, badly named package, sorry
[17:35] <nacc> Haris: you keep stating a fact, ok.
[17:35] <nacc> Haris: but *why*?
[17:35] <Haris> its way past COB. I can't reach the network guys
[17:35] <craptalk> kubast2, i thought my machine got some leakage, but people also mention about it
[17:36] <nacc> Haris: if you can't reach the repositories how are you going to download a .deb from teh repositories?
[17:36] <nacc> Haris: or sources from them?
[17:36] <Haris> what is a viable, secure pkg to download for apache2 ?
[17:36] <nacc> Haris: your statements make no sense to me
[17:36] <Haris> I'm going to download from a mirror and scp it on the server from my box
[17:36] <tgm4883> !offline | Haris
[17:36] <Haris> nacc: ignore my statements please. I just need to know how to get pkgs manually
[17:37] <Haris> no need for understanding on this one
[17:37] <nacc> uzjsn: i don't think you can install pacman in Ubuntu
[17:37] <Haris> hmm
[17:37] <nacc> uzjsn: maybe run arch in a VM?
[17:37] <tgm4883> nacc: maybe he's not talking about the arch pacman?
[17:37] <nacc> uzjsn: not sure i understand why you'd wnat to build arch packages on ubuntu anyways ...
[17:37] <nacc> tgm4883: oh i thought they specifically were?
[17:38] <wdd> anyone know how I can find mapping of  a /dev/ identifier to pci slot info (/sys/bus/pci/devices...) ?
[17:38] <ducasse> Haris: 'apt download packagename' or packages.ubuntu.com
[17:38] <Haris> tgm4883: That went over me. couldn't get the part from Synaptic onwards
[17:38] <tgm4883> nacc: oh you're right. I didn't read far enough back
[17:38] <Haris> hmm
[17:38] <Haris> let me see if that works
[17:38] <nacc> Haris: that of course presumes you are also running trusty
[17:39] <nacc> Haris: and also, just reinstalling the .deb won't rewrite the configuration  necessarily
[17:39] <Haris> cat /etc/*release shows ---> VERSION="14.04.2 LTS, Trusty Tahr"
[17:39] <Haris> nacc: I have a backup of config
[17:39] <nacc> Haris: you also want to update your system :)
[17:39] <Haris> yep
[17:39] <Haris> but later please. not now
[17:39] <Haris> need to finish this and call it a day
[17:39] <Haris> for now
[17:39] <tgm4883> yea, security is usually an afterthought....
[17:40]  * nacc just walks away
[17:40] <nacc> too many people making poor choices already for a Friday
[17:40] <tgm4883> nacc: unfortunately I don't think it's pub time yet :(
[17:40] <nacc> tgm4883: not quite :)
[17:40] <Haris> pkgs from trusty or trusty-updates or trusty-backports
[17:41] <Haris> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[17:42] <nacc> Haris: are you asking a question?
[17:42] <nacc> Haris: so far you've typed a conjunction and then a URL.
[17:42] <tgm4883> lol
[17:42] <Haris> yep
[17:42] <Haris> url = reference for Q above
[17:42] <nacc> Haris: what question above?
[17:43]  * tgm4883 channels Jerry Maguire "Help me help you!"
[17:43] <nacc> Haris: this is like pulling teeth right now, and we're all volunteers.
[17:43] <nacc> Haris: If you actually want help, ask full-sentence questions with details.
[17:43] <Haris> download pkgs from what trusty versin or repo or option on that page
[17:43] <jhutchins_wk> Haris: The problem is that there are usually dependencies for other packages, apache is not just one package.
[17:43] <nacc> Haris: I don't know, earlier you said you didn't care what version
[17:44] <OerHeks> backports, yay
[17:44] <nacc> Haris: and note how there is *still* not a question...
[17:44] <Haris> http://pastebin.ca/3771732
[17:44] <Haris> hmm
[17:44] <Haris> sorry guys. I missed the Q mark. My bad :(
[17:44] <nacc> Haris: what was the point of the above paste?
[17:45] <Haris> this is the list of apache pkgs I have installed. That is the list of pkgs I want to reinstall to re-set apache back to factory config ?
[17:45] <coffeeguy> hi my speakers on built-in audio are reversed from left to right and right to left, at first i thought it was a cable problem but the monitor speakers on my second monitor are reversed too
[17:45] <Haris> or upgrade to something that is ok
[17:45]  * nacc can't help himself, feels like bragging about how insecure the server is
[17:45] <nacc> Haris: ok, so download those versions and reinstall them
[17:45] <nacc> Haris: if that's all you want to do -- don't understand why that's difficult?
[17:46] <Haris> I'v never done this before
[17:46] <Xundres> were are located temporary file of a program started with ./  ?
[17:46] <Haris> always done it through apt-get or aptitude auto-download of pkgs
[17:46] <nacc> Haris: did you read `man apt-get` and read the download portion?
[17:46] <Haris> hmm
[17:46] <nacc> Xundres: depends entirely on the program
[17:47] <Xundres> nacc: How can i check?
[17:47] <svalcken> ioria: the update has found about 900 MB to upgrade. i wait after this it's work.
[17:47] <ioria> Xundres, open the source , if you have it
[17:47] <uzjsn> Haris: nuke /etc/apache2 and reinstall
[17:47] <happyfr0gg> How do I match a GPG Pub key to its corresponding package?
[17:47] <wdd> can someone please tell me how to get from lcpci : 04:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller:  ->   /dev/nvme0n1?
[17:47] <OerHeks> Haris, why would you backup those old versions?
[17:47] <ioria> svalcken,  wow
[17:47] <Haris> backed up the vhost config part
[17:47] <Haris> don't need the rest
[17:48] <ioria> svalcken,  upgrade && dist-upgrade
[17:48] <Xundres> Actually it is a game so I really don't know what to open
[17:48] <Haris> umm .. download option expects full .deb file name ?
[17:48] <svalcken> ioria: current run upgrade
[17:48] <nacc> Haris: no it doesn't
[17:48] <Haris> # apt-get download apache2 apach2-bin apache2-data apache2-utils
[17:48] <Haris> E: Unable to locate package apach2-bin
[17:48] <happyfr0gg> A specific pub key can't be opened.
[17:48] <ioria> svalcken, the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:48] <Haris> hmm
[17:49] <nacc> Haris: maybe 'apache2-bin'
[17:49] <nacc> Haris: pretty clear error.
[17:49] <Haris> ah. my bad
[17:49] <nacc> Xundres: there is no way to 'check'
[17:49] <Haris> # apt-get download apache2 apache2-bin apache2-data apache2-utils
[17:49] <Haris> E: Can't find a source to download version '2.4.7-1ubuntu4.5' of 'apache2-data:amd64'
[17:49] <nacc> Xundres: you coudl try and use `lsof` to see what file the game has open
[17:49] <nacc> Haris: i thought you said the remote server didn't have access to apt?
[17:50] <nacc> Haris: are you running this on your machine?
[17:50] <svalcken> ioria: yes, i know, i am wait for apt upgrade, then i start dist-upgrade
[17:50] <ioria> svalcken, right
[17:50] <nacc> wdd: one sec, i had a script that did that
[17:50] <Haris> I thought the remote machine couldn't reach ubuntu repo' servers
[17:50] <Haris> otherwise apt-get and aptitude run just ok on it
[17:50] <ioria> Xundres, do you have the source ?
[17:51] <nacc> Haris: i don't understand those two sentences together. Does the remote server have a working apt?
[17:51] <Haris> I'm confused. what does working apt mean ?
[17:51] <Haris> a working apt utility ?
[17:51] <Haris> or the apt db ?
[17:52] <ioria> Xundres, but usually it makes a dir in home or in .config or .cache
[17:52] <Haris> let me show
[17:52] <happyfr0gg> I am also seeing resource limits related to the GPG No Pubkey errors. What does this mean?
[17:52] <Haris> http://pastebin.ca/3771738
[17:52] <Xundres> ioria: it creates a folder in documents
[17:52] <ioria> Xundres, what's in there ?
[17:52] <Haris> when I run apt-get reinstall the-pkg-list, this is what I get
[17:53] <nacc> Haris: yes, because you have not updated the apt
[17:53] <nacc> Haris: err, the apache2
[17:53] <Haris> # apt-get update
[17:53] <Haris> 0% [Connecting to ci.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.149)] [Waiting for headers] ^C
[17:53] <nacc> Haris: if you are a sysadmin, and this is a client's request, then you really need to talk to them about how vulnerable their server might be
[17:53] <Haris> it gets stuck at connecting. never reaches those IPs
[17:53] <Xundres> there is everything it downloads but when I restart, even if the files are still there it downloads everything again
[17:54] <ducasse> Haris: try another mirror
[17:54] <nacc> why are they using ci.archive.ubuntu.com??
[17:55] <Haris> nacc: I understand that. updating the OS means updating base pkg versions for apache, php, mysql on which our current app is built. Its like a migration level effort to get everything up to the updated version. this is not as simple as just running apt-get update and then dist-upgrade or the like
[17:55] <wdd> nacc I think i found relevant info from udevadm
[17:55] <Haris> nacc: its in the pre-existing sources.list ?
[17:55] <OerHeks> Haris, actually, it is that simple
[17:56] <nacc> Haris: and in the meanwhile, presuming this is a public facing service, then you are exposing everything they have, potentially
[17:56] <Haris> OerHeks: that may be true for the OS, but not for the already built app that's running on the current version(s)
[17:56] <nacc> Haris: in any case, the "base versions" are not changed on updates
[17:56] <Haris> hmm
[17:56] <nacc> Haris: sounds like a super-fragile application if you depend on the particular security dot-release of php
[17:57] <nacc> Haris: whatever, you've made your choice, clearly
[17:57] <Haris> its not security dot release. its the methods or supported lib versions for php and mysql
[17:57] <nacc> Haris: I have no idea what you're talking about now
[17:57] <Haris> hmm
[17:57] <nacc> Haris: I said you should update to the latest versions from security
[17:57] <nacc> Haris: they don't break BC in security, unless upstream did
[17:57] <nacc> Haris: and upstream rather rarely does that, iiuc
[17:58] <Haris> hmm
[17:58] <Haris> will do, if the box can do it
[17:58] <nacc> Haris: in any case, given you can't use apt, that's neither or there
[17:58] <nacc> Haris: you can use apt to download those packages locally and scp them over
[17:58] <nacc> Haris: which I thought was your plan all along
[17:58] <Haris> I'm trying to get the sources.list right. then see if it works
[17:59] <Haris> perhaps that'll help
[17:59] <nacc> Haris: you don't have a staging/reproduction environment of a production service?
[17:59] <tgm4883> Haris: he's saying that if you need PHP 5.5 in trusty, doing updates in trusty doesn't upgrade that from 5.5
[17:59] <Haris> this box is the staging box for the production env
[17:59] <nacc> and it can't use apt??
[17:59] <Haris> tgm4883: ah ok
[18:00] <tgm4883> Haris: so you'd get security updates and that's it
[18:00] <tgm4883> Sounds like you need a local repo
[18:01] <Haris> ah
[18:01] <pauliunas> hi, is there a public build of ubuntu touch i could install on my x86 tablet?
[18:01] <Haris> too many wishes, not enough time
[18:01] <ducasse> !touch | pauliunas
[18:02] <wedgie> i dont think php5.5 gets security updates anymore...
[18:02] <nacc> wedgie: by Ubuntu it does
[18:02] <nacc> wedgie: upstream it may not
[18:02] <pauliunas> ah, thanks ducasse
[18:03] <k1l> pauliunas: #ubuntu-touch is the channel for that. there is a unity 8 preview on the 16.10 release
[18:03] <ioria> it's in main,  it should
[18:04] <Haris> is this an ok sources.list for trusty pkgs ? ---> http://pastebin.ca/3771744
[18:05] <voltbit> greetings, is here a way to tell how much time I have spent in a given workspace?
[18:05] <tgm4883> Probably
[18:05] <nacc> wdd: ok
[18:05] <brunch875> I've just noticed discordapp uses notify-send, and those messages overwrite instantly. But on the other hand hexchat messages timeout before sending the next. Does anybody know of this?
[18:07] <ioria> Haris, you miss restricted, you might need it
[18:07] <HoNgOuRu> hi, is there any way of running an application in its own environment ? I want to run let's say chromium
[18:07] <Haris> I left it out, since it was for proprietary pkgs
[18:07] <Haris> this is a lamp box
[18:08] <Haris> lamp stack box
[18:08] <nacc> HoNgOuRu: what do you mean by environment?
[18:08] <mcphail> !info firejail | HoNgOuRu is this the sort of thing you want?
[18:08] <Haris> I think outgoing port 80 traffic on this machine is blocked
[18:08] <chrisml> does acl come w/ 14.04 but not 16.04?
[18:08] <Haris> it can't reach 92.archive.ubuntu.com when I run aptitude update
[18:08] <Haris> manually is the way I think
[18:09] <nacc> chrisml: what do you mean by 'acl'? a package name, fs ACLs, ... ?
[18:09] <chrisml> nacc package
[18:10] <nacc> !info acl xenial
[18:10] <nacc> chrisml: --^
[18:10] <chrisml> optional
[18:10] <chrisml> !info acl trusty
[18:10] <Haris> I want to reinstall the same pkgs, in order to have a consistent box .. for the present. I can work up the upgrade start of next week
[18:10] <chrisml> nacc thanks
[18:11] <Haris> by then I can have the outbound traffic enabled for this box. which will help me download and install pkgs on auto
[18:12] <ducasse> Haris: did you simply try another mirror?
[18:12] <Haris> ?
[18:12] <theseb> Do systemd scripts NEED an "After=" line in the [Unit] section and/or a "WantedBy=" line in the [Install] section?  (I'm trying to make the simplest generic template for custom scripts
[18:12] <Haris> let me try
[18:12] <nacc> Haris: the issue is going to be the mirrors don't keep all the old pacakges
[18:12] <Haris> I'v tried 2 mirrors till now
[18:12] <nacc> Haris: no one wants anyone to install an insecure package
[18:12] <Haris> its outgoing port 80 traffic for this box. its blocked
[18:13] <nacc> Haris: and since the archive doesn't advertise that version, it won't find it
[18:13] <nacc> Haris: e.g. on http://92.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apache2/ there is no 4.5
[18:13] <Haris> hmm
[18:13] <nacc> Haris: there is 4 and 4.13
[18:13] <nacc> Haris: as those are the two supported versions
[18:14] <nacc> Haris: also if the mirror kept every old version, the mirrors would be enormouse
[18:14] <nacc> s/e//
[18:14] <Haris> well, centos keeps pkgs in a directory on a mirror. ubuntu doesn't have publicly browsable pkg list. its just downloadable
[18:14] <nacc> Haris: that's FUD
[18:14] <nacc> Haris: you can browse any mirror if you want
[18:14] <nacc> Haris: I just did
[18:14] <ioria> theseb, no, it's not required, but depends on your script
[18:14] <Haris> hmm
[18:14] <Haris> I can browse http://mirrors.nayatel.com/centos/7.3.1611/os/x86_64/Packages/
[18:15] <Haris> I don't know how to browse pkgs for 14.04.2
[18:15] <nacc> Haris: 14.04.2 isn't really a thing in that sense
[18:15] <Haris> hmm
[18:15] <k1l> Haris: the 14.04.2 or 14.04.3 are like servicepacks on windows.
[18:16] <nacc> k1l: i feel like htat should also be made into a FAQ :)
[18:16] <k1l> if you update 14.04 the system will become 14.04.3 etc automatically
[18:16] <Haris> hmm
[18:16] <nacc> Haris: it's just a point in time snapshot of the archive basically
[18:17] <nacc> Haris: in any case, you can browse the mirror you are using, I just showed you the apache2 diretory, for instance
[18:17] <Haris> yep. checking it out
[18:17] <Haris> making a list of pkgs to download
[18:17] <k1l> if you like a better search, have a look at packages.ubuntu.com
[18:18] <Haris> is this version ok ? --> http://92.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apache2/apache2-bin_2.4.7-1ubuntu4.13_amd64.deb
[18:18] <Haris> hmm
[18:18] <k1l> Haris: why dont you use apt to get the supported version?
[18:19] <Haris> because apt can't do outgoing port 80 connections from this box
[18:19] <Haris> at present
[18:19] <Haris> its nearly midnight here
[18:19] <nacc> Haris: right but the above is http as well
[18:19] <nacc> Haris: so presumably you're going to download locally and scp
[18:19] <nacc> Haris: at which point, use apt to download locally
[18:19] <Haris> I'm going to download that on my box and then scp to the target machine
[18:20] <stevessss> so.. the big reason I like Xorg and dont want mir to replace it and cause all gnome libraries to be compiled without X support is that if I run ubuntu in a container on windows or mac
[18:20] <Brie> Is this where I can talk about problems with Ubuntu?
[18:20] <stevessss> and graphical apps loose X compatibility, then Xming and Xquartz dont help me run graphical apps anymore
[18:21] <ducasse> stevessss: we went through this earlier, i explained it to you
[18:21] <nacc> Haris: tbh, it's pretty rude to ome to a volunteer channel and then complain about how long it's taking to get something fixed that sounds like your job. You can use the latest version from the mirror(s) and it should be fine. But you may end up needing to update dependencies, etc.
[18:21] <stevessss> so ubuntu is never getting rid of X right?
[18:21] <nacc> Brie: yes
[18:21] <nacc> Brie: where problems are specific issues, not general complaints :)
[18:21] <stevessss> maybe it wont be default.. but it will always be 100% supported
[18:21] <ducasse> stevessss: not in many years yet
[18:21] <OerHeks> stevessss, no, xorg should be replaced. Mir it is :-D
[18:22] <Brie> Okay, well I play alot of Steam. Today though it didnt open. I tried opening many times and it "updates" and then just vanishes. I ran Steam from terminal and got this http://pastebin.com/wfYapqZP
[18:22] <nacc> stevessss: also this isn't a suport topic, it doesn't feel like -- it's a bit of a rant/offtopic
[18:22] <guest123> hello.. every time i turn on the computer i get some error messages about a non installed program.. i'm pretti sure it's an older log and i even need this update (windows font or someting even).. ho I delete the error logs? i kann't find it
[18:22] <Haris> I'm sorry for being or sounding rude. I'm just trying to get things done in a consistent way. and then figure out to make all things good at a later time
[18:22] <k1l> stevessss: you know that there is a movement away from x not matter of mir, right?
[18:22] <stevessss> are their mir servers for osx and windows that ubuntu-vm apps can connect to?
[18:22] <nacc> Haris: the problem is, because the client's system is so out of date, it's hard to reproduce it easily
[18:23] <Haris> yep
[18:23] <ducasse> stevessss: no, it doesn't work like that. besides, mir is far from ready
[18:23] <Haris> we don't usually get enough time to do the dev work. its hard to plan for upgrades or migrations on our own time after COB
[18:24] <Haris> I can't take the box down for extended periods, while there's more than a dozen guys who need to work on it
[18:24] <nacc> Brie: where did you get steam from?
[18:24] <nacc> Haris: security updates, in and of themselves, don't necessarily require reboots (except the kernel ones)
[18:24] <Haris> I can't afford to have an inconsistent box or be stuck in searching for deps
[18:24] <nacc> Haris: well, ther eare others too
[18:24] <Haris> on manual
[18:24] <nacc> Haris: but you can afford to be readily hackable?
[18:24] <nacc> Haris: it makes no sense
[18:24] <codepython777> my windows remote desktop hangs on ubuntu - any ideas on how to fix this?
[18:25] <nacc> Haris: and if that is really their position, they should pay out the tooth, because as of right now, they're not even supported by Canonical -- they are running a zombie machine effectively
[18:25] <Brie> I got Steam from the Steam website itself
[18:25] <Haris> I'll conceit that point for now
[18:25] <Brie> It worked fine until today
[18:25] <stevessss> will mir support full remote apps before Xorg is removed from ubuntu?
[18:25] <nacc> Brie: ah, you might need to ask steam then
[18:25] <Haris> if it means to get the work done
[18:25] <ducasse> stevessss: as i've said before, you're worrying about things that are a long way
[18:25] <Brie> Oh...
[18:25] <nacc> Brie: we an only really support the ubuntu packaged steam (in the partner repo)
[18:25] <Haris> I can manage the short term security implication(s)
[18:25] <Brie> Also Open Broadcaster Software won't open either, could this be related? Can a reboot fix this?
[18:26] <k1l> stevessss: there is xmir, for running x only apps, yes. but programs will move away from x too
[18:26] <nacc> Haris: I don't think you really can, but that's a choice you get to make
[18:26] <stevessss> yeah.. so if programs move away from X.. can I still use them remote without X?
[18:26] <nacc> Haris: in any case, you will need to find an 'old' mirror of trusty or you'll be forced to upgrade to the latest security release
[18:26] <nacc> Haris: btw, why are you doing this? did something go wrong?
[18:26] <k1l> stevessss: remote? you mean with ssh forward?
[18:26] <ojatko> hello everyone, I got these unusual lines from the output of chkrootkit: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24059537/...the Trojan one seems to be a false positive as I found out, and the suspect php file is referred here as exploitable: https://is.gd/yDAofP..is that the reason chkrootkit regarded it 'suspect'..is this alert familiar to you?
[18:26] <ducasse> stevessss: not as of today
[18:27] <stevessss> is mir likely to impliment this before it fully replaces X?
[18:27] <Haris> apache's responses are not reaching their destination(s). I have nothing of significance as a diagnosis for this after 4-5 hrs of troubleshooting
[18:27] <stevessss> including xnee screen action catpture, scrot screen shot capture, remote frame buffer etc
[18:28] <seeker399> I was wondering if anyone can help me with passwords
[18:28] <nacc> Haris: all of a sudden?
[18:28] <morsnowski> seeker399, it's usuall qwertzu
[18:28] <guest123> have a nice day
[18:28] <scottjl> i use abc123 everywhere
[18:28] <nacc> !details | seeker399
[18:28] <k1l> stevessss: the idea is that the new systems like wayland or mir have the same features like x did. yes, that is the plan.
[18:29] <stevessss> for me personally.. I hardly care if a desktop display server looks pretty but I do care about business features like remote desktop, individual remote apps and key/action capture etc
[18:29] <Haris> yep
[18:29] <ojatko> can anyone help please? I have a fresh install and I get this bizarre alerts that I didnt get with old installs
[18:29] <anddam> why is my month-old laptop install of 16.04 running 4.4.0-64 while the system I installed today has 4.8.0-39?
[18:29] <Haris> I can browse apache's vhosts just fine on the box. but not from network
[18:30] <nacc> anddam: the hwe kernel in 16.04.2 is opt-in
[18:30] <nacc> anddam: for upgraders
[18:30] <nacc> anddam: fresh installs were opted-in automatically
[18:30] <Haris> but I can telnet apache's port from the network, hand over a request to apache, to which I get no response
[18:30] <anddam> I see, how do I opt in?
[18:30] <tgm4883> *Fresh installs of point releases
[18:30] <nacc> tgm4883: err, yes, thanks!
[18:30] <anddam> also is there a newer kernel than 4.8.0 for 16.04? I stumbled onto a XHCI problem and I'd like to see if a newer kernel helps
[18:31] <nacc> anddam: no
[18:31] <k1l> !hwe | anddam
[18:31] <tgm4883> anddam: not one that would be supported
[18:31] <craptalk> how can i enable fn keys on my laptop? i supposed to use the combination of fn keys to increase a volume for example, but i could it without press the fn keys, so i gues the fn keys have some problem
[18:31] <nacc> anddam: `apt install linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04`
[18:31] <ducasse> stevessss: wayland will not be network transparent, i haven't heard anything about mir implementing it
[18:31] <craptalk> i am currently using lenovo IdeaPad 130
[18:32] <anddam> I'll read the wiki page first, thanks
[18:32] <craptalk> please let me know if you guys know how to do it
[18:33] <nacc> craptalk: you can use `xev` to see if the keypresses are recognized
[18:34] <anddam> I stumbled on this "Set SEL for initiated-device Ux failed" error with this USB3.0 HDD enclosure
[18:34] <nacc> anddam: there technicaly are two packages 'linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04' and 'linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04-edge'
[18:34] <anddam> it's http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-usb/msg93249.html but from that thread seems there is not actual solution
[18:34] <anddam> also it's 2014 and other bugs from the era talks about kernel 3.something
[18:34] <nacc> anddam: it's just a stray debug message?
[18:34] <nacc> anddam: just ignore the message?
[18:35] <anddam> nacc: the usbcore won't register the device, and I get no sd device for the unit
[18:35] <anddam> so it's not there
[18:35] <anddam> https://gist.github.com/anddam/06f0d75b59a07eec2e05c75cd7e07db0
[18:35] <anddam> notice the first dmesg block is the device on USB2 port
[18:35] <nacc> anddam: hrm, that e-mail does not refer to a failure
[18:35] <anddam> the second block is the USB3 port
[18:36] <craptalk> nacc, after i did xev, the button that i pressed with combination of fn key, is not being recognised
[18:36] <nacc> anddam: the issue is not the SEL bits
[18:36] <ojatko> I am asking for the fifth time, does noone know about it? I got stuck with the freshly installed system
[18:36] <nacc> anddam: the issue is earlier in the trace, the device spat errors on the address
[18:37] <craptalk> maybe i need to configure it via BIOS?
[18:37] <craptalk> since ubuntu doenst need any driver for I/O
[18:37] <scottjl> ojatko: you might want to post the messages you got in the alert box.
[18:37] <nacc> craptalk: is the device USB3 comaptible?
[18:38] <craptalk> nacc, yes
[18:38] <scottjl> ojatko: don't come in and post "can someone help me?" just come in and post your question, as detailed as you can.
[18:38] <anddam> nacc: no there are several mentions of that
[18:38] <craptalk> device here means my laptop?
[18:38] <ojatko> scottjl, and you look up in the chat window if someone says he's asking for the fifth time
[18:38] <ojatko> I posted the paste multiple times
[18:39] <seeker399> can anyone help with a password reset
[18:39] <ojatko> gosh
[18:39] <scottjl> my scroll back only goes back as far as i was in the channel, so maybe i didn't see posts 1-4.
[18:39] <k1l> seeker399: use the recovery boot
[18:39] <seeker399> and then what
[18:39] <k1l> !password | seeker399
[18:39] <nacc> craptalk: you mean xev doesn't see the second keypress?
[18:39] <ducasse> ojatko: drop the attitude if you want help, we're all volunteers
[18:39] <ojatko> scottjl, it's enough to guess that the question was asked before when someone said he was asking for the fifth time, right?
[18:40] <craptalk> nacc, yeap, it doesnt map it
[18:40] <scottjl> ojatko: i can see why you were ignored the first four times. sorry i bothered to help you the 5th time.
[18:40] <ojatko> ducasse, it is not only about 'my' attitude
[18:40] <anddam> nacc: but the it accepts an address, I figured it was only the controller doing some odd stuff
[18:40] <ojatko> which was a response
[18:41] <nacc> anddam: i think the device is failing to configure on usb3
[18:41] <ojatko> I got stuck with the install due to bizarre critical-looking messages and get no answer here over the past hour
[18:41] <scottjl> all i saw was "ojatko: can anyone help please? i have a fresh install and i get this bizarre alrets that i didn't get with old installs" no detail. no contents of alert boxes. not much to go on there. i didn't see postings 1-4. so i guess i can't help you.
[18:41] <ojatko> and then someone says "first tell your problem"
[18:42] <anddam> how can I trak this down more?
[18:42] <anddam> I can ofc use an USB2 port or disable XHCI in firmware and have it run ehci
[18:42] <ojatko> all right. have no problem with  posting again: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24059537/
[18:42] <anddam> but that won't go high speed
[18:44] <david_raul> someone here knows python programing?
[18:44] <nacc> ojatko: so it's not bizarre -- you ran a tool that tries to help find rootktis.
[18:44] <nacc> *rootkits
[18:44] <k1l> ojatko: to make it short: chrotkit is not a one click antivirus program. i got a huge load of false positives and you need to look after them if they are false positives or not
[18:44] <nacc> ojatko: that tool seems buggy
[18:44] <nacc> ojatko: what k1l said
[18:44] <Haris> leaving it "as it is". will do it when I have gotten network access to do things normally via apt-get / aptitude utility on auto
[18:44] <rein_> hi
[18:45] <nacc> david_raul: yes, of course, but it's offtopic here -- you want #python
[18:45] <k1l> ojatko: so, dig into it and see if its plausible or you made that changes manually. its not a beginners tool.
[18:45] <nacc> Haris: sorry if you got lost in the noise -- I think that's the right choice
[18:45] <Haris> thank you all
[18:45] <david_raul> nacc: but there ask me for registering and i dont know how to do that
[18:45] <HoNgOuRu> nacc, mcphail , thank you a lot, its awesome
[18:45] <nacc> ojatko: you are not stuck in any sense of the word, except you have chosen to be stuck, afaict
[18:45] <nacc> HoNgOuRu: yw
[18:45] <nacc> !register | david_raul
[18:46] <ojatko> k1l, thing is, it is easy to find out that the trojan thing is a false positive, there are loads of posts about it. but with the sqspell.php file, how can I dig into whether it is a false positive or not?
[18:46] <anddam> nacc: also notice how on third attempt the device accepts the address
[18:46] <nacc> k1l: fyi, i've update the hwe wiki page for 16.04's changes
[18:46] <anddam> I think the matter is what followes
[18:46] <anddam> follows
[18:46] <david_raul> tanks guys nac,ubottu
[18:46] <k1l> nacc: alright :)
[18:46] <ojatko> nacc, stuck because I dont know whether I should reinstall or if the problem is with the iso, or anything
[18:47] <nacc> anddam: it resets right away
[18:47] <ojatko> shortly, how can I know if this php file alert is real or not? this is what I have been asking
[18:48] <anddam> nacc: would ##linux be an appropriate place of discussion?
[18:48] <nacc> anddam: i think that issue in the e-mail maybe was fixed by 51df62ff74b371866c1006dee887a8e42838c1f2 upstream
[18:48] <nacc> anddam: probably better than here
[18:49] <ojatko> there is not much online reference to this alert, whereas hacking blogs refer to it as 'suitable for exploitation'
[18:49] <ojatko> the file, I mean
[18:50] <nacc> ojatko: that file is generated at runtime by dictionaries-common
[18:50] <nacc> ojatko: you can look at it if you want, it's pretty clear if it's a trojan or not
[18:51] <ojatko> nacc, I already see it, it's in the shown folder, it is a 366 byte file..and you say it is created by the system..so I shouldn't suspect it?
[18:52] <anddam> nacc: mmm look this user dmesg, start of the page https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-949008-start-0.htmla
[18:53] <anddam> nacc: he gets the same "Set SEL for initiated-…" fails and then the usb-storage device registered
[18:53] <nacc> anddam: 404 here
[18:53] <nacc> anddam: in any case, you can file a bug if you want, it's probably out of the scope o being able to help here
[18:53] <nicomachus> yea there's an extra 'a' at the end.
[18:53] <nacc> anddam: you could also try the mainline ppa
[18:53] <anddam> I dropped an tailing 'a' letter
[18:53] <nacc> !mainline | anddam
[18:53] <anddam> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-949008-start-0.html
[18:54] <Lavinho> good morning
[18:55] <Lavinho> hp stream 14 slow internet ubuntu
[18:55] <Lavinho> where is ?
[18:56] <Lavinho> what is
[18:56] <Lavinho> ?
[18:56] <ojatko> so how will I know if that file is ok or not?
[18:56] <OerHeks> Lavinho, can you rephrase that, i cannot make a question out of that
[18:56] <uzjsn> a $300 laptop.
[18:57] <Lavinho> The internet is slow in hp stream 14 with ubuntu
[18:57] <anddam> nacc: where did you get that kernel commit hash from?
[18:57] <Lavinho> what is ?
[18:58] <nacc> anddam: i looked at the kernel tree. In a former life I was a kernel devleoper
[18:58] <disi> i have a script that changes my default gateway, but every day (presumably when the DHCP lease is renewed), those settings get overwritten. is there a way to prevent this?
[18:59] <ojatko> is there no answer here to in which way I can check whether the file '/var/cache/dictionaries-common/sqspell.php' has nothing to suspect or not, as chkrootkit states the former?
[18:59] <uzjsn> Lavinho: what is _what_?
[18:59] <anddam> nacc: and then you were redeemed
[18:59] <anddam> nacc: ;-)
[18:59] <nacc> anddam: indeed :)
[18:59] <Lavinho> internet slow
[18:59] <anddam> nacc: I'm not good at gitweb-fu
[18:59] <anddam> nacc: oh wait, you checked it locally, not on kernel.org
[19:01] <nacc> anddam: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=51df62ff74b371866c1006dee887a8e42838c1f2
[19:01] <ojatko> how can I check if the file is proper or not?
[19:01] <ojatko> how can I check if the file is proper or not?
[19:01] <ojatko> how can I check if the file is proper or not?
[19:01] <ojatko> how can I check if the file is proper or not?
[19:01] <ojatko> how can I check if the file is proper or not?
[19:01] <nacc> !patience | ojatko
[19:01] <nacc> ojatko: next time, someone will ban you.
[19:01] <saitoh183> has anyone installed guacamole with mysql authentication that could help me out? im only getting a blank page when i try to open in browser
[19:01] <nacc> (hopefully)
[19:02] <penguin_> Hello
[19:02] <anddam> nacc: thx
[19:02] <nacc> ojatko: we don't know why the tool you ran says it wasn't proper. I have no indication it is not on my system. I am not on your system.
[19:02] <freakyy> hi all. how do i get exactly the default look of ubuntu budgie 17.04 in ubuntu 17.04 which has been upgraded from budgie-remix ubuntu 16.10?
[19:03] <tehmal> Guys
[19:03] <tehmal> prob
[19:03] <nacc> freakyy: #ubuntu+1
[19:03] <tehmal> http://wklej.to/ivUup
[19:03] <k1l> ojatko: that is what i meant with: you need to dig into it. what program is that file from, what should it look like, what should be in it, why did chrootkit mark it as positive,....
[19:03] <tehmal> Ubu 16.04.2
[19:04] <penguin_> Can anybody help me resolve dependencies errors/Broken packages??
[19:04] <tehmal> vlc from snaps also not works
[19:04] <nacc> !details | penguin_
[19:05] <nacc> tehmal: what version of ubuntu?
[19:05] <tehmal> 16.04.2
[19:05] <tehmal> fresh install -.-
[19:05] <nacc> tehmal: please pastebin `apt-cache policy vlc`
[19:05] <nacc> tehmal: and can you run with english in the terminal? LC_ALL=C (iirc)
[19:06] <k1l> tehmal: ran sudo apt update?
[19:07] <penguin_> I have the following problem "Software database is broken   It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first."
[19:07] <tehmal> nacc, http://wklej.to/SYqD1
[19:08] <_3bnd_> what would cause an interface (eth0) that is setup in /etc/networks/interface to fail during boot, but then be available to setup manually as eth6 with ifconfig?
[19:08] <scottjl> penguin_: did you run sudo apt-get install -f ?
[19:08] <OerHeks> penguin_, what happens when you do?
[19:08] <penguin_> yes i did
[19:08] <penguin_> but hasn't helped me
[19:08] <scottjl> and what did it say?
[19:08] <nacc> thgilfod1ol: did you run `sudo apt update` first?
[19:08] <k1l> penguin_: run "sudo apt update" and then "sudo apt full-upgrade" and then put all the output onto paste.ubuntu.com
[19:08] <nacc> thgilfod1ol: sorry
[19:08] <nacc> tehmal: did you run `sudo apt update` first?
[19:08] <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
[19:09] <saitoh183> I followed this guide https://www.chasewright.com/guacamole-with-mysql-on-ubuntu/ and i see this in the tomcat catalina.out: http://pastebin.com/RCK4umAU
[19:09] <nacc> tehmal: if you did, can you pastebin the ouptut of `LC_ALL=C sudo apt install vlc libgles1-mesa`
[19:09] <nacc> tehmal: `LC_ALL=C sudo apt install vlc libgles1-mesa liblges2-mesa`
[19:09] <k1l> tehmal: using the kubuntu ppa?
[19:09] <thgilfod1ol> nacc: all good haha, it happens
[19:09] <tehmal> k1l, nope clean Ubuntu 16.04.2
[19:09] <ioria> _3bnd_, it's really eth0 your interface ?  run   'ip a'
[19:10] <k1l> tehmal: can you install the package that is named there and see what is blocking it?
[19:10] <penguin_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24060418/
[19:10] <penguin_> output
[19:11] <tehmal> nacc, http://pastebin.com/ii3r5CQ5
[19:11] <_3bnd_> ioria, come up as eth6. i will rewrite config with that iface
[19:11] <ioria> _3bnd_, ok
[19:14] <nacc> tehmal: that second one, typo -- libgles2-mesa
[19:14] <tehmal> nacc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24060439/
[19:14] <tehmal> ok i type
[19:15] <nacc> tehmal: and pastebin `LC_ALL=C apt-cache policy libgles1-mesa`
[19:15] <scottjl> penguin_: you've got a conflict there with fpu_control.h
[19:15] <scottjl> penguin_: I'd try removing libc6-dev-amd64:i386 entirely
[19:16] <tehmal> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24060447/'
[19:16] <OerHeks> scottjl, could this work too, instead of removal? sudo dpkg --purge --force-depends "libc6-dev-amd64:i386"
[19:17] <nacc> tehmal: it would appear your archive is slightly out of date
[19:17] <OerHeks> seen many issues like this, hard to dig
[19:17] <scottjl> should get rid of it yes. then try the install -f aftewards.
[19:17] <nacc> !info libgles1-mesa xenial | tehmal
[19:17] <tehmal> nacc, not shit... ityped apt update upgrade full-ugrade milion times
[19:17] <_3bnd_> ioria, that worked, thanks.  very strange that it skipped eth0-5
[19:17] <nacc> tehmal: that's the version you should see
[19:17] <nacc> tehmal: excuse me?
[19:18] <tehmal> i should hv acctual repo =C
[19:18] <tehmal> damn...
[19:18] <tehmal> maybe next day be repaired
[19:18] <nacc> tehmal: you are using a mirror. mirrors take time to update
[19:18] <tehmal> nacc, cal u tell me what is "GOD MIRROR"? ;)
[19:19] <nacc> k1l: could you confirm that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack shows you the correct pacakge for the xenial hwe kernel? having issues with the wiki locally
[19:21] <ioria> _3bnd_, you're welcome
[19:22] <ducasse> _3bnd_: see if there are any udev rename rules under /etc/udev/rules.d/
[19:23] <nvdrivers> anyone able to help, tried upgrading nvidia drivers and now im in a world of shit
[19:23] <nvdrivers> "NVIDIA-SMI has failed because it couldn't communicate with the NVIDIA driver. Make sure that the latest NVIDIA driver is installed and running."
[19:23] <nvdrivers> i try purging, reinstalling, etc.
[19:23] <nvdrivers> without luck
[19:24] <scottjl> nvdrivers: can you roll back to your previous version?
[19:24] <nvdrivers> i tried
[19:24] <nvdrivers> i tried to upgrade cuda
[19:24] <nvdrivers> with cuda-repo-ubuntu1604-8-0-local-ga2_8.0.61-1_amd64.deb
[19:24] <nvdrivers> im confused, no messages about the drivers in any logs
[19:25] <scottjl> nothing in dmesg?
[19:25] <scottjl> can you manually load the module?
[19:25] <nvdrivers> nothing in dmesg othter than nvidia hdmi sound
[19:25] <nvdrivers> tried loading with modprobe, i'll just try again and paste output
[19:26] <uzjsn> tehmal: try apt-get install libglapi-mesa=11.2.0
[19:27] <nvdrivers> modprobe: FATAL: Module nvidia_378 not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.0-64-generic
[19:27] <nvdrivers> but the package is installed :(
[19:27] <tehmal> uzjsn, E: Version '11.2.0' for 'libglapi-mesa' was not found
[19:28] <gebruiker> can someone explain to me how to capture a video stream?
[19:28] <ioria> nvdrivers, no idea about cuda, you can start with pasting  dpkg -l | grep nvidia*
[19:28] <ioria> gebruiker, it really depends on the stream ;)
[19:29] <tehmal> lol... Republic of Poland/ Data Storage Center :  Two days behind
[19:29] <tehmal> repo...
[19:29] <scottjl> nvddrivers: uname -a  - are you running 4.4.0-64-generic?
[19:29] <ioria> gebruiker,  but DownloadHelper in FF  is good
[19:29] <gebruiker> ioria: ah ok
[19:29] <gebruiker> ioria: i will check that out, I am trying to capture anime
[19:30] <nvdrivers> http://pastebin.com/MAaRR4gE
[19:30] <ioria> gebruiker,  yep
[19:31] <tehmal> damn.. change repo to "update" not helping wtf?!
[19:31] <nvdrivers> i used to have an older version of the driver installed, installing that again doesn't seem to help
[19:31] <OerHeks> tehmal, no need for that language, keep this channel family friendly, thanks.
[19:32] <gebruiker> ioria: thanks! it appears to be working :)
[19:32] <tehmal> OerHeks, im sorry
[19:32] <nvdrivers> i want to avoid wiping the hard disk and starting again
[19:32] <ioria> gebruiker,  banzai !!!
[19:32] <nvdrivers> if possible
[19:32] <nacc> tehmal: i don't understand what you changed?
[19:32] <scottjl> nvdrivers: uname -a
[19:32] <tehmal> nacc, repository server
[19:32] <nvdrivers> Linux SGD1.speech-graphics.com 4.4.0-64-generic #85-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 20 11:50:30 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:32] <nacc> tehmal: the issue is (i think) pl.archive.ubuntu.com -- what is 'repo' and 'update' and in your statement?
[19:32] <tehmal> to "up to date" server
[19:32] <nacc> tehmal: what did you hange it to?
[19:32] <nacc> tehmal: *change
[19:32] <scottjl> nvdrivers: so it doesn't look like it installed correctly, because the module isn't there.
[19:32] <tehmal> http://ftp.vectranet.pl/ubuntu/nacc, v
[19:33] <tehmal> nacc http://ftp.vectranet.pl/ubuntu/ this one
[19:33] <nvdrivers> i dont see errors when apt is installing the drivers
[19:33] <nvdrivers> does a bunch of dkms stuff, updates initrd, then i reboot
[19:33] <tehmal> nacc, i try now with http://ftp.icm.edu.pl/pub/Linux/ubuntu/
[19:33] <scottjl> dkms is barfing out then (common)
[19:34] <scottjl> 375 is the last version you had in and worked?
[19:34] <nvdrivers> no was...
[19:34] <nvdrivers> 367.18 i think,
[19:34] <egonsen> how can i remove all desktop environments i installed manually? i want to keep only ubuntu unity
[19:34] <ioria> nvdrivers,  but what your issue right now ? no login, low resolution ... what ?
[19:35] <nacc> tehmal: did you run `apt update` after changing mirrors? the one you just showed has the correct pacakge
[19:35] <ioria> egonsen, that's not easy
[19:35] <nacc> tehmal: http://ftp.vectranet.pl/ubuntu/pool/main/m/mesa/
[19:35] <scottjl> what i would do is purge nvidia* then try a dpkg -i of the 367 if you have it
[19:35] <egonsen> ioria, why?
[19:35] <tehmal> nacc, ooo ! progres friedn "The following packages will be upgraded:  mesa-vdpau-drivers nano snap-confine snapd ubuntu-core-launcher"
[19:36] <scottjl> some times lingering config files can mess with updates
[19:36] <nvdrivers> i didn't install 367 from a deb
[19:36] <ioria> egonsen,  what you installed ? k-x-l-desktop ? what exactly ?
[19:36] <nvdrivers> i have done purge multiple times
[19:36] <OerHeks> nvdrivers, so you used the cuda 8 toolkit from nvidia itself, that gives issues: upgrade to yakkety 16.10 and use the cuda toolkit 8 from our repos
[19:36] <tehmal> Friend! Works... ahh this outdates repos hehe. Q: "damn" is bad word in english?
[19:36] <egonsen> ioria, xfce and maybe another one. i cannot remember. where can i see which environments i installed?
[19:36] <nvdrivers> OerHeks: hey thanks
[19:36] <nvdrivers> i'll try that
[19:37] <nvdrivers> this is ubuntu server, it's a machine learning box, has been running fine but i wanted to try latest drivers and cuda 8.0
[19:37] <ioria> egonsen,  ls -l /usr/share/xsessions/
[19:37] <OerHeks> nvdrivers, xenial just gets 7.5 in our repos < https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-cuda-toolkit>
[19:38] <nvdrivers> what version of 8.0 is available in 16.10
[19:38] <nvdrivers> reason for update was torch code looking for stuff only in latest headers, and having issues with VNC
[19:38] <egonsen> ioria, it's only ubuntu and xfce. so i want to fully remove xfce
[19:40] <ioria> egonsen,  can you paste     apt-get -s autoremove --purge xfce*
[19:42] <ioria> egonsen,  without sudo
[19:43] <OerHeks> oh that will be fun, removal of a desktop ... try the -s simulate as ioria suggests
[19:43] <ioria> OerHeks, never worked for me :) idk why
[19:43] <nvdrivers> i guess i will try upgrade to 16.10
[19:43] <nvdrivers> unless i can get more info on why the modules aren't installing
[19:43] <OerHeks> ioria, when snap is 100% integrated, our job will be boring
[19:43] <nvdrivers> there goes my weekend
[19:44] <ioria> OerHeks, yep
[19:44] <egonsen> ioria, https://paste.ubuntu.com/24060551/
[19:45] <ioria> egonsen,  did you already removed something ?
[19:46] <Dethfull> how can i inherit between  this:
[19:46] <egonsen> nothing i remember
[19:46] <Dethfull> if [  ${my_link} ] && [ ${ny_link} ]
[19:46] <egonsen> ioria, why is there no easy way? like just purging xfce4?
[19:46] <Zefrog> Hi there
[19:46] <Dethfull> i want to know if [  ${my_link} ] or and or how [ ${ny_link} ]
[19:47] <ioria> egonsen,  because it's just a meta-package
[19:47] <Dethfull> for example, i have two players
[19:47] <nacc> Dethfull: do you mean to ask in a bash channel maybe?
[19:48] <Dethfull> bash channel?
[19:48] <Dethfull> freenode?
[19:48] <nacc> !alis | Dethfull
[19:48] <ioria> !info xfce4 | egonsen
[19:48] <nvdrivers> sudo update-alternatives --config x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf ->> http://pastebin.com/ifF26kqA
[19:49] <Dethfull> but in another day, i got answer here
[19:49] <nacc> Dethfull: it looks like you are asking for bash support (based upon the syntax)
[19:49] <Dethfull> from this (sleep x; kill app) &
[19:49] <nvdrivers> is that relevant?
[19:49] <Dethfull> in background
[19:50] <nacc> Dethfull: i don't know what you're saying. I am saying if you want help programming in bash, you should ask in a bash channel
[19:50] <Dethfull> ,i found bash answer here in another day
[19:50] <Dethfull> ,i found bash answer here in another day
[19:50] <nacc> Dethfull: that's nice -- still is offtopic
[19:50] <Dethfull> i am not crazy
[19:50] <ioria> egonsen,  to be honest, i'am not sure ; but you can run the real command: sudo  apt-get -s autoremove --purge xfce*
[19:50] <ioria> egonsen,  to be honest, i'am not sure ; but you can run the real command: sudo  apt-get  autoremove --purge xfce*
[19:52] <ioria> egonsen,  btw, i noticed this in your paste 5 not fully installed or removed.
[20:03] <ruicruz> hi there. i have this problem about a audacity repository when i do apt-get update: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24060636/ - is there a way to remove this repository? how? i don't have audacity instaled anymore.
[20:03] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[20:05] <ruicruz> thanks OerHeks, checking that.
[20:05] <OerHeks> ppa:ubuntuhandbook1/audacity
[20:06] <OerHeks> ruicruz, and remove that epson repo too, manually,  from updates/sources, as it never installed any package
[20:06] <ruicruz> ok, good eye on that tiny one.
[20:07] <ruicruz> thanks, i didnt notice it
[20:08] <penguin_> can anybody help me fix software center in lubuntu?
[20:09] <penguin_> can anybody help me fix software center in lubuntu? The package system is broken.
[20:10] <ruicruz> OnkelTem seems that i ran into another problem with ppa-purge: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24060703/
[20:10] <ruicruz> OerHeks
[20:10] <ruicruz> I mean
[20:10] <nvdrivers> now i get "NVIDIA: could not open the device file /dev/nvidiactl (No such file or directory)"
[20:10] <nvdrivers> after trying nvidia-current
[20:11] <nvdrivers> =(
[20:12] <OerHeks> ruicruz, oh, that ppa is completely removed, so i guess it also never installed any package. do as with the epson repo, disable/remove it from updates/sources and update again
[20:12] <OerHeks> see https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuhandbook1 no audacity ppa anymore.
[20:12] <ruicruz> ok, got it. will do.
[20:13] <OerHeks> always check the launchpad page if it provides packages for your version
[20:14] <e_> ##linux
[20:19] <alkisg> (10:09:19 μμ) penguin_: can anybody help me fix software center in lubuntu? The package system is broken. ==> details?
[20:20] <Fabler> What's wrong with your software center?
[20:20] <Fabler> Can you just reinstall it?
[20:20] <penguin_> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nEBgoARUCJU/UWKTpV7B5HI/AAAAAAAAIVA/EYUVQfcS9Hw/s1600/broken_package_errorfixed1.jpg
[20:21] <alkisg> penguin_: ok, so open a terminal and run what it says, sudo apt-get install f
[20:21] <alkisg> -f
[20:21] <Fabler> And what it says?
[20:21] <alkisg> Fabler: he provided a screenshot above
[20:21] <penguin_> paste the output here?
[20:21] <alkisg> !paste
[20:22] <alkisg> penguin_: read this ^
[20:22] <penguin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24060761/
[20:22] <penguin_> ok done
[20:23] <alkisg> penguin_: press y and enter there
[20:23] <alkisg> So that it continues
[20:23] <penguin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24060765/
[20:23] <Fabler> Ok, all required packets will be installed, and problem must be fixed
[20:24] <samlamamma> Alright. I wanna use a Sixaxis controller to play Higan (SNES roms). I've got xboxdrv installed, I've got qtSixa installed (I just wanna use it thru USB though). xboxdrv is getting the input from my controller but when I wanna set input config in Higan and it's waiting for me to press a button it doesn't react when I press one on my Sixaxis. Is it Higan's fault? Have I missed out on anything?
[20:24] <Fabler> Oh, sorry. I did not noticed last message
[20:25] <anddam> nacc: confirmed it was the timeout error
[20:26] <anddam> nacc: btw another compter (this laptop) sees the drive just fine, and evn the original computer with issues saw the drive after a couple re-plugin
[20:26] <alkisg> penguin_: output of this? dpkg -l libc6-dev*
[20:27] <penguin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24060782/
[20:28] <saitoh183> anyone here use guacamole?
[20:28] <OerHeks> penguin_, WHAT WERE YOU TRYING TO INSTALL WHEN THIS HAPPENED? ANDROID STUDIO PERHAPS?
[20:28] <OerHeks> oops
[20:28] <penguin_> steam
[20:29] <Fabler> Penguin, you can launch dpkg manually with --force-overwrite
[20:29] <alkisg> penguin_: try: sudo apt-get -f purge libc6-dev-i386
[20:30] <penguin_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24060797/
[20:30] <nacc> anddam: ok
[20:30] <OerHeks> penguin_, oke. did you try to remove lib6-dev-amd64:i386 as suggested earlier? this page describes your issue ( and possible fix) http://askubuntu.com/questions/869344/apt-get-problem-in-ubuntu-16-04
[20:30] <OerHeks> alkisg, +1
[20:31] <penguin_> I don't know why but I cannot access any page on askubuntu.com.All I see is
[20:31] <penguin_> Page Not Found We're sorry, we couldn't find the page you requested.  Try searching for similar questions  Browse our recent questions  Browse our popular tags  If you feel something is missing that should be here, contact us.
[20:31] <alkisg> Chaos, amd64 with teamviewer:i386 and steam:i386 and god knows what else :D
[20:31] <LiberBear> Hi, i have a homework that ask me to describe installing new devices in Linux. What u can shortly say about it. I mean (drivers formats, terminal commands if needs). P.S Sorry for bad eng, not my native
[20:32] <OerHeks> alkisg, known issues indeed..
[20:32] <penguin_> Yes.Dependencies were missing so I installed deb packages,manually via terminal by using dpkg -i command
[20:32] <penguin_> sorry im new to linux and I probably messed up a lot
[20:32] <alkisg> penguin_: and did you now learn to not do that? :D
[20:33] <Fabler> This is actually not good
[20:33] <OerHeks> LiberBear, we don't do your homework. https://help.ubuntu.com/
[20:33] <alkisg> penguin_: try these: sudo dpkg --purge lib6-dev-amd64:i386; sudo apt-get install -f
[20:34] <ioria> LiberBear, well, if the device is supported, the module will be automatically loaded, otherwise .... or you change kernel, or try alternative source
[20:34] <LiberBear> OerHeks, I though that only nerds like you can describe this ))
[20:34] <OerHeks> LiberBear, pretty good manuals @ https://help.ubuntu.com/
[20:34] <penguin_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24060817/
[20:35] <penguin_> guys.Do I have to do a clean installation of lubuntu?
[20:35] <Fabler> Penguin, no
[20:35] <alkisg> penguin_: sorry, I missed a "c": sudo dpkg --purge libc6-dev-amd64:i386; sudo apt-get install -f
[20:36] <LiberBear> ioria, If device not install automatically, we try to find driver, what format it has? (the most noob question you ever seen)
[20:36] <Fabler> alkisg, but if he will delete this package, teamviewer will load it as dependence, right?
[20:36] <alkisg> Fabler: it's possible that apt-get install -f will then autoremove some of the meta-packages, yes
[20:36] <ioria> LiberBear,usually, you need to compile yourself ... it's a tar.gz or .bz2 package
[20:37] <penguin_> something is being set up in terminal.
[20:37] <LiberBear> ioria, Thanks ^_^
[20:37] <ioria> LiberBear, ok
[20:37] <penguin_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24060834/
[20:37] <svalcken> ioria: hello, here my info about upgrade to 14.04.5. the upgrade and dist-upgrade has been done. release upgrade current run.
[20:37] <ioria> svalcken, ok
[20:38] <alkisg> penguin_: if that's all, then it's ok now?
[20:38] <sardior> Having problems with Steam on my Ubuntu again... just stopped working. This is the terminal messages when I run it from a terminal: http://pastebin.com/QiqhLFKV
[20:38] <Fabler> Penguin, I think, it must be ok now. alkisg was right
[20:39] <penguin_> Ok it is okay now. thanks
[20:39] <alkisg> np
[20:40] <penguin_> but I have anoter question
[20:40] <penguin_> when I run steam im prompted to install additional packages.
[20:40] <Fabler> What packages?
[20:41] <penguin_> Steam needs to install these additional packages:  libgl1-mesa-dri:i386, libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
[20:41] <Fabler> Look
[20:41] <penguin_> All I need is steam
[20:41] <Fabler> sudo apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
[20:41] <OerHeks> penguin_, what happens when you do?
[20:42] <sardior> It was running fine just a few days ago, then it just suddenly quit.
[20:42] <penguin_> when I open the steam launcher it brings up a terminal window that says: Steam needs to install these additional packages:
[20:42] <penguin_> libgl1-mesa-dri:i386, libgl1-mesa-glx:i386
[20:42] <penguin_> should I aggre?
[20:42] <penguin_> to install these?
[20:42] <Fabler> Yes, it will install them
[20:43] <OerHeks> maybe #steam-lug or #ubuntu-steam is a better help
[20:43] <qmr> god dammit cloudflare this is not what I wanted to do with my friday
[20:44] <OerHeks> !language | qmr but you know the channelrules already
[20:44] <penguin_> I cannot copy the output text from the package install window
[20:44] <penguin_> how can i take a screenshot?
[20:44] <Fabler> Alt+PrintScreen
[20:45] <nacc> penguin_: what is your actual question?
[20:45] <sardior> #steam-lug has 2 users in it, and #ubuntu-steam has 31... not sure how much help they will be, but I'll try. Thanks.
[20:45] <penguin_> blob:http://imgur.com/6c5eaea5-de8e-45d4-9a3e-6022a06e8e44
[20:45] <nacc> penguin_: yes, if you want to launch steam, install those packages
[20:45] <nacc> penguin_: if you don't want to launch steam, don't install them
[20:45] <nacc> penguin_: not sure why it's even a question
[20:46] <penguin_> I didn't want to mess up my system again
[20:46] <penguin_> so I asked if its safe
[20:46] <penguin_> to do that
[20:46] <nacc> penguin_: i don't know what you did to break your system before
[20:46] <penguin_> https://postimg.org/image/ufxyv2s7v/
[20:46] <nacc> penguin_: but it sounded like you used dpkg manually
[20:46] <nacc> penguin_: in which case, the above won't do that
[20:46] <ilgios> hi to everybody. I have a little problem with schroot. I have installed schroot, debootstrap and fs ubuntu14.04. I configured config file for schroot, but when i do schroot -c xxx, the fs where i logged is not the right one, but the one on my laptop. can someone help me?
[20:46] <OerHeks> penguin_, it is safe not to do it... and please mention next time you installed packages manually.
[20:47] <Fabler> Ok, Penguin, now just open terminal, and execute sudo apt-get install -f
[20:47] <penguin_> im sorry.I have been using lubuntu for a few days  now. I was trying various tips from google.
[20:48] <penguin_> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24060886/
[20:49] <penguin_> I couldn't install steam in a normal way,hence I installed the package manually
[20:49] <penguin_> thats why I did it
[20:49] <ppf> why couldn't you install it?
[20:49] <penguin_> unmet dependencies
[20:49] <penguin_> https://postimg.org/image/ufxyv2s7v/
[20:49] <nacc> penguin_: and how did you try? partner repository?
[20:49] <Fabler> Actually, this is bad. Manually installed packages
[20:50] <penguin_> I downloaded deb installed for steam
[20:50] <nacc> penguin_: that is the mistake
[20:50] <penguin_> installer*
[20:50] <nacc> penguin_: steam is packaged for ubuntu, use the partner repository
[20:50] <ppf> penguin_: you probably got some ppa that's broken dependencies. just install steam from the repos
[20:50] <ppf> !info steam
[20:50] <nacc> err, multiverse not partner
[20:50] <penguin_> seems that lubuntu has not steam in its repo
[20:50] <ppf> yea, multiverse
[20:50] <nacc> penguin_: yes, it does
[20:50] <ppf> what version?
[20:51] <penguin_> I cant seem to find steam in lubuntu software center
[20:51] <ppf> what version?
[20:51] <nacc> penguin_: are you on 12.04?
[20:51] <penguin_> Lubuntu
[20:51] <penguin_> 16.04.2
[20:51] <penguin_> x64
[20:52] <OerHeks> penguin_, time to do some updating, libdrm2 is 	2.4.70-1~ubuntu16.04.1 ..
[20:52] <nacc> it's definitely available for 16.04; you just need to enable multiverse
[20:52] <ppf> !info steam xenial
[20:52] <ppf> there it is
[20:52] <penguin_> I haven't updated my system at all yet.
[20:52] <OerHeks> nacc, he needs updating i guess. sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[20:53] <OerHeks> *ALLWAYS*  update before installing stuff
[20:53] <penguin_> but im running the latest version 16.04.2
[20:53] <ppf> OerHeks: no he doesn't. he just installed some foreign package from somewhere
[20:53] <ppf> instead of using the official one
[20:53] <nacc> well, they *also* should do that
[20:53] <nacc> penguin_: there are updatese constantly
[20:53] <OerHeks> ppf, that could be the culprit tooo, i stop i think, useless searching for issues that normally do not exist.
[20:54] <ppf> OerHeks: he said so above
[20:54] <nacc> penguin_: even if you did a fresh install today from brand new media, the first thing I'd suggest you do is `apt update; apt full-upgrade` after installation
[20:55] <ppf> certainly can't hurt
[20:55] <penguin_> alright
[20:55] <anddam> nacc: that was just FYI
[20:55] <nacc> anddam: ack :)
[20:55] <ilgios> hi to everyone, someone could help me with schroot?
[20:55] <nacc> penguin_: and additionally, to install steam, use the multiverse component and install from there
[20:56] <ppf> !ask | ilgios
[20:56] <penguin_> im updating my system
[20:56] <ppf> penguin_: good
[20:57] <ppf> then enable multiverse in software center
[20:59] <penguin_> the problem still exists.Maybe I will switch to different buntu?
[20:59] <ppf> no
[20:59] <ppf> enable multiverse
[20:59] <penguin_> where?
[20:59] <ppf> install steam: sudo apt install steam
[20:59] <ppf> as i said, in software center
[20:59] <OerHeks> penguin_, do a fresh install, you'll be back in 30 minutes :-)
[21:00] <ppf> OerHeks: stop giving bad advice please?
[21:00] <penguin_> im sorry for being the cause of the problem,but like I sad I'm totally new to linux
[21:00] <ppf> penguin_: no worries
[21:01] <penguin_> I need a system that is safe and reliable for banking purposes and basic tasks
[21:01] <ppf> in software center, go to software sources
[21:01] <ppf> enable multiverse
[21:01] <ilgios> Sorry to everyone. I installed schroot, debootstrap and ubuntu14.04. configured schroot with the forder of u14.04, but when i lo in in schroot, the fs is the my laptop fs
[21:01] <ilgios> thats's wrong
[21:04] <disi> i have a script that changes my default gateway, but every day (presumably when the DHCP lease is renewed), those settings get overwritten. is there a way to prevent this?
[21:05] <ppf> disi: how do you configure your network?
[21:05] <ppf> network manager?
[21:05] <ppf> it's got a setting to ignore automatic routes and to add custome ones
[21:05] <ppf> use that
[21:06] <disi> ppf: well DHCP for everything, then  the script uses `ip route ...`
[21:06] <disi> ppf: aha, ok hopefully there is a way to toggle that from the CLI, thanks ill look into it
[21:07] <ppf> disi: hence my question. is it nm you're using? or /etc/network/interfaces?
[21:08] <disi> ppf: im not sure, this may be set in the prebuilt corporate image im using (though i have reproduced on vanilla fedora 24). how can i tell?
[21:09] <ppf> paste /etc/network/interfaces.d/
[21:09] <ppf> paste /etc/network/interfaces
[21:09] <ppf> sorry, the latter
[21:14] <donofrio> anyone have a UEFI Plop usb image?  Trying to boot my MacBook Pro 1,1 it's got a 32bit EFI and it's a 64Bit machine, so it's not booting for me so far tried some grub command but nothing working so far
[21:16] <EriC^^> donofrio: why a plop usb image? isn't plop to use a usb on a dvd only booting machine?
[21:18] <donofrio> cause my boot usb key is not booting last time I had to put plop on a cd and boot from external drive with usb hub and select the usb key would like something that doens't require all the cables
[21:20] <veysiubuntu> Heloo is there any body who use sublime text for c++ compiler?
[21:20] <johannesg_> host
[21:21] <anddam> in top filtering how can I specify an OR clause?
[21:21] <anddam> if possible at all
[21:21] <donofrio> EriC^^,  cause my boot usb key is not booting last time I had to put plop on a cd and boot from external drive with usb hub and select the usb key would like something that doens't require all the cables
[21:22] <EriC^^> donofrio: maybe create a custom ubuntu image that works with 32bit uefi and put it on a dvd?
[21:26] <EriC^^> donofrio: i'm not sure, but plop doesn't look like it has uefi support yet
[21:30] <gp5st> when I try to install wine, it pulls in a bunch of 32bit libs. is there a package that is built against the 64bit ones?
[21:31] <ppf> gp5st: it's built against both
[21:31] <gp5st> ppf so it's normal for it to pull in a bunch of 32bit libs?
[21:31] <ppf> because you need both for windows programs usually
[21:31] <gp5st> ppf: ah, ok
[21:31] <gp5st> thank you :)
[21:38] <loula> hi
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> lo
[21:44] <loula> i need help about something that started last night, my computer has big freezes when it tries to connect the net via wifi (i cant tell for wire, i couldnt test yet)
[21:44] <faLUCE> hello. I just installed 16.10. At boot, if I press "esc" I have a minimal grub menu, which allows me to enter into another grub menu where I can choose the kernel (4.0.22 or 4.0.39) .. This double grube is WEIRD!!. How can I fix that so I can boot with 4.0.22 kernel as default?
[21:44] <loula> it just freezes and never comes back
[21:44] <freakyy> can anyone help me and tell me how i can use the plymouth or whatever, bootscreen of ubuntu-gnome instea dof hte one from ubuntu-budgie?
 if you haven't make changes it loads the last kernel... the most recent... Is that ok with you?
[21:47] <faLUCE> koleygr: no, it's not ok, because with the last kernel it goes into kernel panic much often, with my USB dongle. Then I want to use the other kernel
[21:48] <ppf> faLUCE: you can uninstall that kernel that doesn't work for you
[21:49] <faLUCE> ppf: I would like to preserve it, but to boot automatically to the other
[21:49] <koleygr> http://askubuntu.com/questions/216398/set-older-kernel-as-default-grub-entry
[21:50] <koleygr> try this <faLUCE>... the marked answer  works
[21:52] <faLUCE> koleygr: many thanks
[21:52] <MonkeyDust> koleygr  you can drop the <> ... type fa then hit tab
[21:53] <koleygr> MonkeyDust, thanks
[22:12] <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
[22:12] <dachy> Hi guys.. i need a quick help with setting up my firewall. I am using ufw, and trying to open a port for bittorrent. I ran  ufw allow from any to any port 51413 and I can see by using nmap on a machine external to my network that the port is in state "filtered". If I disable ufw entirely, the nmap shows the port in state "open". Any idea what is wrong here?
[22:13] <dachy> My ufw rules look like this: http://pastebin.com/uhR5sYc0
[22:15] <mcrt> dachy: your router is probably filtering the traffic
[22:16] <dachy> mcrt: there is no router involved.. just my ubuntu machine plugged into the internet
[22:17] <mcrt> dachy: plugged in how?
[22:17] <df00z> Hey, um, im trying to pair a bluetooth serial module.  I can use it as root.  added myself to dialout.  bluetooth.service keeps creating new /dev/rfcomm# devices
[22:17] <dachy> mcrt: with a cable
[22:18] <mcrt> dachy: who provides the internet access?
[22:18] <dachy> mcrt: i've a fibre->ethernet box on my wall, and I get an IP address via DHCP but ots always the same one, and its publicly accessible
[22:20] <mcrt> dachy: that box might still do traffic filtering. try to disable the firewall and see what happens
[22:20] <skinux> Is it possible to store things on portable drive, but still have it managed by apt and accessible as if it were installed onto Ubuntu's primary partition?
[22:20] <dachy> mcrt: as mentioned above, if i disable ufw, it works. if i enable ufw, it doesnt work
[22:21] <mcrt> dachy: ah right, sorry
[22:21] <dachy> by "doesnt work" i mean that nmap sees the port in state "filtered"
[22:23] <mcrt> dachy: try to remove the DENY IN rule for eth0
[22:24] <mcrt> dachy: if the policy for the input chain is DROP you wont need it anyway
[22:24] <dachy> mcrt: that's kinda what makes the firewall work though
[22:24] <dachy> mcrt: how do i verify what the policy for the input chain is, that sounds like complicated iptables talk
[22:24] <wedgie> dachy: wouldn't the deny rule need to be *after* the rule that allows 51413?
[22:25] <dachy> wedgie: that might be something, are these sorted ? :)
[22:25] <wedgie> the rule for 443 is at the top. Does 443 work?
[22:25] <mcrt> if the policy for the INPUT chain is DROP you do not need such additional rules.. (speaking in iptables terms)
[22:25] <dachy> wedgie: yes, it does
[22:26] <wedgie> dachy: disclaimer: UFW confuses the heck out of me. For being the "Uncomplicated FireWall" it sure is complicated.
[22:26] <dachy> wedgie: its quite a bit less scary than iptables though :)
[22:26] <wedgie> lol, if you say so
[22:27] <mcrt> dachy: 'iptables -L -n'
[22:27] <dachy> HEY, it works :)
[22:28] <dachy> wedgie: nice one, reordering the rules worked :)
[22:28] <wedgie> dachy: typically with these things rules are evaluated in order and the action is taken on the first match.
[22:28] <wedgie> so an allow after a deny that also matches the traffic in question will never be reached
[22:28] <mcrt> removing the rule would have sufficed, now you have rules for double dropping the traffic and you need to worry about the correct order etc.
[22:29] <wedgie> mcrt: personally I like having explicit rules like that at the end, even if it is the default. Increases readability and reduces surprises, IMHO
[22:29] <dachy> wedgie: great. Does this look ok then: http://pastebin.com/VgtfJpb  ?
[22:30] <wedgie> dachy: link not working for me
[22:30] <dachy> http://pastebin.com/VgtfJpba
[22:31] <mcrt> wedgie: sure, i guess you can do that too
[22:31] <wedgie> dachy: looks reasonable to me, but again, i'm no expert with UFW
[22:32] <dachy> wedgie: better than me, and thats me happy. thanks for your help!
[22:32] <Zambzz> anyone help me with missing icon on for godot engine on ubuntu? ive tired "StartupWMClass=Godot" in the godot.desktop yet its not working
[22:32] <Zambzz> tried*
[22:37] <Zambzz> anyone?
[22:38] <OerHeks> Zambzz, that icon is in the folder where you installed it, Exec=/opt/Godot/Godot Icon=godot  > http://cialu.net/blog/install-godot-engine-fedora-ubuntu.html
[22:38] <mcrt> how would one gain rights to edit the ubuntu wiki?
[22:39] <mcrt> ive applied for wiki-editors membership on launchpad... its been weeks and nothing happens, other people seem to get approved though.
[22:39] <Zambzz> Thank you 0erHeks
[22:40] <OerHeks> mcrt, join the documentation team, and see the bottom part of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Organization
[22:41] <OerHeks> mcrt, i have no info/influence on membership approval
[22:41] <mcrt> geez. this is proving to be very difficult.
[22:44] <mcrt> i need to contribute to the wiki before i can contribute to certain (old outdated) pages on the wiki?
[22:46] <Mitchy> Hi all ,  can i ask here a question about a task in ubuntu (unity)
[22:46] <k1l> mcrt: the access to the wiki needed to be reduced due to heavy spam action. you can talk to the team in #ubuntu-doc
[22:48] <digitalfiz> test
[22:49] <k1l> Mitchy: just ask
[22:51] <Mitchy> Is it possible to run a sort of timer to refresh a webpage without starting the browser (which consues to much resources
[22:51] <mcrt> k1l: thanks. thats understandable, but there should be some reasonable procedure to gain editing rights.
[22:51] <CombuderBob> I'm manually tweaking my touchpad settings with xinput and use "Device Accel Constant Deceleration" to adjust acceleration... Is there a list of the other parameters, what's the mouse speed, what is the accel threshold?
[22:52] <wedgie> Mitchy: to what purpose? Is the browser not already open at that point, or do you mean something else?
[22:52] <k1l> mcrt: talk to the docs team
[22:53] <wedgie> Mitchy: i'm quite certain that there are plugins that can be used to refresh pages on an interval available for firefox and chrome
[22:54] <mcrt> k1l: thanks. im sorry, but im not gonna waste more time on this. going to put the stuff up somewhere else.
[22:55] <Mitchy> ach cool  well reason i ask is i want to indeed refresh a page bit not leave browser open when im not there or when having multible tabs open
[22:57] <wedgie> Mitchy: again, to what purpose? Why do you want to refresh a page while you're not there?
[22:57] <wedgie> is this to trigger some automated job or something?
[22:58] <Mitchy> ehm job is a big word i guess , its to refresh a page nothing more or less
[23:00] <wedgie> well, i don't know what "refresh a page" means if it is not open in a browser
[23:01] <dimisdas> Mitchy: you can add a meta-tag if you can edit the page in question
[23:01] <dimisdas> to refresh on intervals
[23:04] <dimisdas> ie <meta http-equiv="refresh" content="30">
[23:04] <CombuderBob> Bumping my question, still can't find anything online: Is there a list of the various "props" in an xinput list-props? I want to set mouse speed and accel.
[23:04] <dimisdas> (sorry d/ced)
[23:04] <Mitchy> i try to explain ,  i want to refresh a webpage in a interval of let say 5 minutes, if possible without to open a webrowser
[23:04] <dimisdas> Is that webpages yours or third party?
[23:04] <wedgie> Mitchy: what does "refresh" mean in that context? What are you expecting to happen?
[23:05] <Mitchy> weddgie  a sort of automated F5
[23:05] <wedgie> F5 only makes sense if a browser is open.
[23:05] <wedgie> so i'm confused as to what you have in mind
[23:05] <Mitchy> i know but now u know what i try to say
[23:06] <wedgie> i really don't.
[23:06] <OerHeks> Mitchy, something like " while true; do wget -qO- http://www.google.com > /dev/null; sleep 300; done "
[23:06] <OerHeks> * without > /dev/null ofcourse
[23:07] <OerHeks> Mitchy, or http://askubuntu.com/questions/355301/terminal-web-browser-page-reload
[23:08] <Mitchy> Oerheks   ja  jij snapt em
[23:08] <OerHeks> Mitchy, but wget does not work with https .. AFAIK
[23:08] <wedgie> sure it does
[23:09] <OerHeks> oh it does :-D
[23:09] <OerHeks> loaded in 0 sec
[23:10] <dimisdas> snakeoil
[23:10] <Mitchy> if it can be done in terminal it would be awesome
[23:11] <OerHeks> I would go for tmux
[23:12] <wedgie> or set up a cron job. Really depends on what you're trying to accomplish. But you refuse to say, so who knows.
[23:15] <Mitchy> im not refusing i said earlier i want to automate the refresh of a website ,  as if one does hit the F5 button every 5 minutes  , sorry if i am unclear
[23:16] <wedgie> that's not what you're trying to accomplish. That's what you think you want to do in order to accomplish your real goal.
[23:18] <xangua> You want to refresh a webpage without loading a web browser? Huh
[23:22] <dimisdas> The XY problem
[23:22] <dimisdas> http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/66377/what-is-the-xy-problem
[23:22] <dimisdas> and how to avoid it
[23:26] <tgm4883> Mitchy: what is your end goal. eg. What are you trying to solve by refreshing a web page every 5 minutes?
[23:32] <Mitchy> my goal is that the page gets refreshed every few minutes because its not automated , and i am not behind the desk all the time ( its a newsfeed )
[23:36] <k1l> Mitchy: if you dont want a webbrowser for that, that sounds like you want something like a rss feed/reader
[23:36] <pavlos> Mitchy, do you view the page as index.html or via a browser?
[23:39] <Mitchy> hmm i try to detaul te thing,   the webpage (not made by me) people make artikels on it the RSS feed of that page is somehow connected to twitter, but twitter seems not auto refresh the rss feed, so we do it manual.  the link we hit every few minutes or so , is a php script that refreshes the rss feed
[23:40] <kaosine> *sigh* had to go buy some dvd-r's so I can revive a old laptop and hopefully revive my home server too ^_^
[23:44] <wedgie> so it is launching a job. Set up a cronjob that uses curl or wget to hit that url every 5 mins
[23:47] <Bashing-om> kaosine: And where are you now in the restoration of your server ?
[23:47] <DocMAX> i need to mount a nfs share much earlier on boot. how can i do this?
[23:48] <kaosine> Bashing-om: waiting on the disk drive.....the file system is definitely there but I'm wondering if grub or something has been screwed up somehow
[23:48] <wedgie> Mitchy: run ''crontab -e'' then enter this:
[23:48] <wedgie> */5 * * * * /usr/bin/curl --silent http://your.site.com/whatever.php > /dev/null 2>&1
[23:48] <pavlos> DocMAX, adding the mount in /etc/rc.local ?
[23:49] <DocMAX> no thats last step
[23:49] <DocMAX> i need the mount as early as possible.. maybe after network is up
[23:49] <DocMAX> maybe in initramfs?
[23:50] <Bashing-om> kaosine: Well, get the "live" DVD made up .. and in the liveDVD's boot options is " boot from first hard drive" . see what joy you get ?
[23:52] <Afdal> It seems a broken Opus audio codec library got pushed in 14.04?
[23:53] <Afdal> That's my analysis anyway
[23:53] <Afdal> Used to run media with Opus encoded and now not matter what player I tried the sound fails to load and gets listed as unknown code
[23:53] <kaosine> Bashing-om: it's still a little odd that I installed it the other day and it just didn't want to boot after one point. As soon as she gets home with the drive I'm going to see if I have any luck
[23:53] <Afdal> codec
[23:54] <Afdal> On this 16.04 system on the other hand Opus-encoded audio still plays back fine
[23:54] <Mitchy> ok people sorry for my stupid explanation, best or easiest solution is indeed a browser extention
[23:54] <Afdal> How can I check the last software updates I installed?
[23:55] <Bashing-om> kaosine: "Most" of the time in such a situation we find that a proprietary driver got broke in the package update process . // Then again sudo'n where you should not be and now root owns the access to your desktop ??
[23:58] <kaosine> Bashing-om: I don't even know I'm still trying to figure it out. but on the terms of the laptop I need to figure out what desktop environment to use....considering lxde and xfce at this point since it probably needs to be lightweight and light on the battery
[23:59] <pavlos> DocMAX, how about rc2.d/