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squish102superfly: there must be lots of jobs to choose from00:34
squish102difficult to find IT staff atm00:34
squish102especially mobile/big data/cloud/security00:35
superflysquish102: well, I don't think I can really do better than RedHat :-)05:06
superflysquish102: but it's just a little difficult for me to get something that works for both me and the company05:07
chesedomorning all06:43
chesedofrom last night's thread, i guess that not many noticed github's updated UI this week...06:45
chesedowhich leads me to think that he makes use of a proxy and has a caching problem...06:45
Kilosmorning everyone :D07:10
chesedomorning oom Kilos07:15
chesedohoe gaan dit?07:15
Kiloshi chesedo 07:15
Kilosgaan maar aan dankie en jy07:15
chesedolekker, was 'n besige week dankie07:16
Kilosai! die google word elke dag erger07:17
Kilosek het vir jou n epos gestuur07:18
Kilosoff topic i know but i hate bullies thinking they can get away with anything07:24
Kilosall it takes for evil to flourish is for good people to sit back and do nothing07:25
chesedohmm, interesting that...07:34
nsnzeromorning guys07:50
Kiloshi nsnzero 07:50
Kilosi need to reboot07:50
nsnzeroi need a boot - too lazy today07:52
* chesedo tries to fit a boot into his connection, but does not seem to be working08:16
Kiloshuh?08:18
Kilos made my first boo hopefully it workst-repair cd,08:20
Kilosai!08:20
Kilosstupid touchpad08:21
nsnzerolol chesedo 08:21
nsnzerochesedo: try loading via the boot-strap08:21
chesedonsnzero: sorry, but the boot has no straps... did not know you needed that kind :P08:22
nsnzerothe effect is appreciated chesedo 08:26
nsnzero*effort08:26
nsnzerofinally got this laptop upgraded -> 8gigs ram 120G SSD and 1T hdd in a cd-rom caddy - but i am still not satisfied 08:31
nsnzeroi was checking out the ridiculous prices for 17" laptops - cheapest i saw was 18K most expensive 72K08:32
nsnzeroKilos: knoppix has a pre-built repair cd iso - just download and burn it 08:33
Kilosi have a stupid drive from a lappy that decided to boot only to grub-rescue08:34
Kilosboot-repair used to fix that prob08:34
Kilosouch thats big bucks for a lappy08:36
nsnzerogrub doesnt give the error ?08:40
Kilosgrub rescue prompt08:41
nsnzeroi have a lenovo (is a terrible brand) laptop that has no option to boot via cd - only usb after messing around in the bios and scouring the internet for solutions08:41
Kilosmany commands you can use there and make new files etc but not inna thinking and concentrating mood08:42
Kilosi love this lenovo thinkpad T410i08:42
nsnzeroKilos: if you didnt install anything new - its a sign of a failing hdd08:43
nsnzerothinkpad is a ibm brand - lenovo inherited the name when the bought of ibm laptop division08:43
Kilosi have just reset the mbr so now its a clean drive basically08:43
Kilosluckily i copied /home to large drive first08:44
nsnzeroi wasnt so lucky - lost everything about 10 000 documents - lucky i was working with my database on another pc - managed to save that  08:46
Kiloswhew08:46
Kilosi always rsync home to somewhere else08:46
Kilosadvice from pro thats always come in handy08:47
nsnzeronow i just email myself everything - let google be my backup08:47
Kiloseish i have many thousands of mails on gmail08:47
Kilosthats why i use pop on thunderbird08:48
nsnzeroi created a new email - so i can keep my main email clean - imap works for me 08:49
Kiloshahaha i have 5 mail accounts08:49
Kilosimap from them would kill me and my data bundle08:49
magespawngood morning08:49
Kiloshi magespawn 08:49
nsnzerohi magespawn 08:50
magespawnhow things there Kilos?08:50
magespawnhi nsnzero 08:50
Kilosok ty magespawn and there?08:50
nsnzeroKilos:  you can set imap to only get headers - and download only when you want to view the mail08:50
Kilostoo much work pop works fine08:51
nsnzeroi have 1 pop account for ultra secret stuff that ii dont want google accessing 08:52
magespawnall good, thanks Kilos. been on some training for a couple of weeks and generally busy.08:57
magespawnnsnzero: why not just encrypt the mail?08:57
nsnzeromagespawn: the mail insist sent by me 09:03
nsnzeroisn't*09:03
nsnzerochat later guys - have a good day - nap time for me 09:04
Kiloshi poppingtonic 09:50
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za09:51
poppingtonicHello Kilos09:54
poppingtonicI'm from Nairobi09:55
Kiloscool09:55
Kilosthen you should join #ubuntu-africa channel as well09:55
Kilosguys from the whole of africa help each other there as well09:56
Kilosdo you need any help poppingtonic 09:56
poppingtonicThat's cool.09:56
inetprogood mornings09:57
Kiloshi inetpro 09:57
inetprooh and hi oom Kilos as well09:57
Kilosraining here again09:57
Kilossince sunday 13509:57
poppingtonicI don't need any help right now, I'm just joining so I can help anyone who needs any. 09:57
inetpropoppingtonic: hi09:57
Kilosgood to have you here poppingtonic feel free to hang out 24/709:57
poppingtonicYeah, I just set this channel to auto-join, so I'll get notified whenever anyone mentions me.09:58
Kilosdo the same with the africa channel and meet the guys as the pop in09:59
Kiloswe have guys from capetown to tunisia there09:59
poppingtonicThat's great10:00
Kilospoppingtonic do you know symmetria and zipper10:00
Kilosthe both in networking in kenya10:01
poppingtonicI see zipper regularly, but I haven't met symmetria in months.10:01
poppingtonicProbably more than a year since the last time we met.10:01
Kilosmarried  life and work keeping him busy it seems , he used to hang here all the time10:03
Kiloswe actually use his mirror for za10:03
chesedopoppingtonic: hi and welcome11:03
nlsthznsup ZA?12:44
chesedonot much and self nlsthzn?13:03
chesedowell actually, i have to figure why my mikrotick router is not masquaring 443 traffic...13:04
nlsthznsounds painful chesedo :p not to much happening here... thanks for asking :)13:07
* inetpro will sign out of here in a few minutes and will hopefully be back tomorrow13:09
nlsthznbai inetpro 13:22
nlsthznhi uncle Kilos , how are you?15:32
hibanawb Kilos15:32
hibanaoh and hi nlsthzn15:32
nlsthznhey hibana 15:33
=== hibana is now known as inetpro
nlsthznah inetpro :p15:34
inetproeh ;-)15:34
inetprohow're you doing nlsthzn?15:34
Kilosim ok ty nlsthzn and you?15:35
Kilosinetpro you sorted out already?15:35
nlsthznI'm fine thanks :)15:35
inetproKilos: nope, just connected directly now 15:35
Kiloswhere is not found fella15:36
Kilosah ok inetpro 15:36
inetproKilos: he found his self15:36
Kiloshaha15:36
Kiloshimself15:36
inetproKilos: btw, something seems to have changed on the Telkom side15:37
Kiloswhat?15:37
inetprothe site onnetsecure.telkom.co.za not showing usage info directly any more15:38
inetpromaybe just temporary15:38
Kilosoh yes i saw that15:38
Kilosthere is a nother way i think15:38
inetprohave to login15:39
Kilosforgotten what i did since we went cellc15:39
Kilosyes15:39
Kilosthat was a pain i think15:39
Kiloscellc has 100g for R1000 and you can stretch it over a year if you like'15:39
Kilosonly this voda tower they share here only has edge so im in tortoiseville again15:40
inetproyikes!15:43
Kilosbrings back memories though15:44
Kiloswhen i went from gprs to edge i thought wow this is fast15:44
Kiloshahaha15:44
Kiloswhat a twit15:44
inetpro1c per MB is a nice price15:45
inetprojust need to have something in place to limit you usage so you don't eat it in one day15:46
inetproyour usage*15:46
* inetpro should test cellC15:47
Kilostoo much to eat in one day15:48
Kilosi dont do youtube or download videos15:48
Kilos20 mins skype daily15:49
Kilosthey also have 200g for R150015:50
Kilosim lucky ian gets the bundles15:50
inetprowill try it out one of these days15:53
inetpromy Telkom contract runs out in a month or two15:53
inetproif they don't wake up I will jump ship15:54
Kilosif you get a good cellc signal there there isnt any reason to stay with telkom15:55
inetproalso planning to keep my current mobile phone and go to prepaid 15:55
inetprothat way I can switch networks easily15:55
Kilosi even got telkom to start building another tower near kroondal so telkom signal will be good soon, they just need to give better bundles15:56
Kiloswe can see kroondal from here at night15:57
Kilosmaybe 10 ks away15:57
Kilosbut for now at least im still connected15:58
inetproI give up with Vodacom, they're generally still the best network around but useless in my area and aftre so many followups they still don't upgrade the network here to proper LTE16:00
inetproand they remain pricey16:00
* nlsthzn is so happy with fibre and unlimited, moving away from this will be torture16:03
Kiloshahaha16:03
inetpronlsthzn: I wish I could get it here16:07
nlsthznI remember 8 years ago inquiring about internet and they basically list you the prices and the speed... then all the saffa's were; "But what is the cap?"  They had no idea what we meant16:08
nlsthznnow if you really want great internet for very cheap you need to be in India...16:09
nlsthznwow, competition there is hectic16:09
inetproKilos: how do you manage usage on CellC, do they have a nice interface like Telkom?16:12
Kilosi have no idea inetpro 16:13
Kiloshttps://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiKhoKh0qvSAhXGtBQKHf9oCs4QFggbMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cellc.co.za%2Fcellc%2Fprepaid-contract-detail%2FGiga&usg=AFQjCNHEE_BQ9fCM2OfTT9zoHEOdSVhcew16:15
Kilosouch sorry16:15
Kilosi forget to first go to the link16:15
inetpro100 Prepaid = R1499 once-off16:16
nsnzerogood afternoon all16:24
inetprowb nsnzero16:24
nsnzerohi inetpro - thanks16:26
nsnzeroquestion - there is a daemon called upower.service that delays my boot-up by 42 seconds when i have a sd card plugged in 16:27
nsnzero44.423s upower.service16:27
nsnzeroreport from systemd-analyze blame16:28
inetprowow, that is a long delay16:28
inetpronsnzero: see: https://upower.freedesktop.org/16:30
nsnzerothanks inetpro 16:35
inetpronot that there's much to read there16:35
inetpromaybe look at this also http://askubuntu.com/questions/765969/long-delay-after-bootin-upower-service-requires-26s16:36
nsnzeroits definately the sd card that is causing the delay - maybe i need to enable something / disable something in bios 16:43
nsnzerogoing to experiment abit 16:43
nsnzerook after disabling card reader power saving in bios - > success 16:49
nsnzeroupower 429ms upower.service16:49
nsnzeroStartup finished in 10.027s (firmware) + 3.526s (loader) + 13.830s (kernel) + 8.746s (userspace) = 36.130s16:49
Kiloswb not_found 17:02
not_found:p17:03
Kilosssd fast hey nsnzero 17:03
* not_found has a rogue irc client still running with nlsthzn logged in it seems17:03
not_foundalready purged it from app and it still lingers 17:03
Kilosi put one in the thinkpad and was amazed at the performance17:03
not_foundpersistent bugger :p17:03
Kiloslol17:03
nsnzerohi Kilos | not_found 17:04
not_foundo/ nsnzero 17:04
nsnzeromy other latop with normal hdd boots in 49 seconds though - so i going to make this 1 faster 17:05
not_foundnot only don't I have a ssd but my "new" hdd I bought is a 5400rpm green drive (s l          o                     w                                                  !)17:06
nsnzerothe WD green drives are slower - maximum power saving  17:08
nsnzeroi wonder if i can put root on a sd card and home on the hdd 17:11
nsnzerolike a ghetto hybrid ssd/hdd combo17:12
Kilosgoogle it , i think ive seen something about that17:12
Kiloswhat size ssd you got?17:13
not_foundnsnzero, exactly my point17:14
nsnzerothis 1 is 16G got a 32G lying somewhere 17:16
nsnzerosorry Kilos its a 120G evo - lol - 17:21
nsnzerothe sd card is 16 G - nsnzero doesnt read before typing 17:22
inetpronot_found: find your self man17:29
Kilosi was lucky, my ssd is 128g17:30
Kiloscrashed on windows pc and the IT guys couldnt fix it cheap i think17:31
Kiloskept crashing with any windows, i zeroed it and put kde on and been running fine for near 6 months i think17:33
nsnzerogot mine from school by asking nicely 17:33
Kiloslol17:33
nsnzerothey dont know this is linux - they think its windows 10 with a funny theme17:35
Kiloslol17:37
nsnzeronow i need to get a these icons to look nice and flashy - i dont like the flat minimalistic breeze icons17:39
theblazehenhttp://tracker.ceph.com/projects/ceph/wiki/Ceph-Brag The existence of this is even more reason for me to move to ceph at home. Will be a lot simpler than my current config as well18:12
nsnzerohi theblazehen 18:14
nsnzerowhat is ceph ?18:14
theblazehenhey nsnzero. Basically like a way to spread storage across multiple nodes etc18:15
theblazehenhttps://ceph.com/18:16
nsnzerooh ok - like a NAS system18:17
nsnzeroNAS = Network Assisted Storage18:17
theblazehenPretty much if you use cephfs18:21
theblazehenCurrently using just plain iscsi18:22
inetprotheblazehen: have you played around with gluster?18:23
theblazeheninetpro a bit some time back, iirc it can't do tiered storage?18:23
not_foundnight all18:42
* inetpro needs to make time to play with ceph18:46
Kilosinetpro are you finished yet?19:05
Kiloshurry man i need to sleep19:06
nsnzerolol19:28
andrewlsd_night all19:35
inetproKilos: finished with what?19:41
Kiloswork man19:42
* inetpro never works19:42
Kiloshahaha19:42
Kilosare you home19:42
inetproit will be done when it is done19:42
Kilossigh19:42
Kilosok then i gonna sleep now19:42
Kilosim old you know19:43
inetprohaha, please go and have a rest oom Kilos19:43
Kilosand more importantly im tired19:43
inetprodon't want you to get older now19:43
Kiloshahahha19:43
Kilosok be good. see you tomorrow19:43
inetprosleep makes you younger19:43
Kilos night all. sleep tight19:43
inetpronag oom19:43
inetproMaaz: watch them20:43
Maazoh inetpro I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon!20:43
inetprogood night20:43
smileYou leaving, inetpro? 20:56

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