[00:34] <squish102> superfly: there must be lots of jobs to choose from
[00:34] <squish102> difficult to find IT staff atm
[00:35] <squish102> especially mobile/big data/cloud/security
[05:06] <superfly> squish102: well, I don't think I can really do better than RedHat :-)
[05:07] <superfly> squish102: but it's just a little difficult for me to get something that works for both me and the company
[06:43] <chesedo> morning all
[06:45] <chesedo> from last night's thread, i guess that not many noticed github's updated UI this week...
[06:45] <chesedo> which leads me to think that he makes use of a proxy and has a caching problem...
[07:10] <Kilos> morning everyone :D
[07:15] <chesedo> morning oom Kilos
[07:15] <chesedo> hoe gaan dit?
[07:15] <Kilos> hi chesedo 
[07:15] <Kilos> gaan maar aan dankie en jy
[07:16] <chesedo> lekker, was 'n besige week dankie
[07:17] <Kilos> ai! die google word elke dag erger
[07:18] <Kilos> ek het vir jou n epos gestuur
[07:24] <Kilos> off topic i know but i hate bullies thinking they can get away with anything
[07:25] <Kilos> all it takes for evil to flourish is for good people to sit back and do nothing
[07:34] <chesedo> hmm, interesting that...
[07:50] <nsnzero> morning guys
[07:50] <Kilos> hi nsnzero 
[07:50] <Kilos> i need to reboot
[07:52] <nsnzero> i need a boot - too lazy today
[08:16]  * chesedo tries to fit a boot into his connection, but does not seem to be working
[08:18] <Kilos> huh?
[08:20] <Kilos>  made my first boo hopefully it workst-repair cd,
[08:20] <Kilos> ai!
[08:21] <Kilos> stupid touchpad
[08:21] <nsnzero> lol chesedo 
[08:21] <nsnzero> chesedo: try loading via the boot-strap
[08:22] <chesedo> nsnzero: sorry, but the boot has no straps... did not know you needed that kind :P
[08:26] <nsnzero> the effect is appreciated chesedo 
[08:26] <nsnzero> *effort
[08:31] <nsnzero> finally got this laptop upgraded -> 8gigs ram 120G SSD and 1T hdd in a cd-rom caddy - but i am still not satisfied 
[08:32] <nsnzero> i was checking out the ridiculous prices for 17" laptops - cheapest i saw was 18K most expensive 72K
[08:33] <nsnzero> Kilos: knoppix has a pre-built repair cd iso - just download and burn it 
[08:34] <Kilos> i have a stupid drive from a lappy that decided to boot only to grub-rescue
[08:34] <Kilos> boot-repair used to fix that prob
[08:36] <Kilos> ouch thats big bucks for a lappy
[08:40] <nsnzero> grub doesnt give the error ?
[08:41] <Kilos> grub rescue prompt
[08:41] <nsnzero> i have a lenovo (is a terrible brand) laptop that has no option to boot via cd - only usb after messing around in the bios and scouring the internet for solutions
[08:42] <Kilos> many commands you can use there and make new files etc but not inna thinking and concentrating mood
[08:42] <Kilos> i love this lenovo thinkpad T410i
[08:43] <nsnzero> Kilos: if you didnt install anything new - its a sign of a failing hdd
[08:43] <nsnzero> thinkpad is a ibm brand - lenovo inherited the name when the bought of ibm laptop division
[08:43] <Kilos> i have just reset the mbr so now its a clean drive basically
[08:44] <Kilos> luckily i copied /home to large drive first
[08:46] <nsnzero> i wasnt so lucky - lost everything about 10 000 documents - lucky i was working with my database on another pc - managed to save that  
[08:46] <Kilos> whew
[08:46] <Kilos> i always rsync home to somewhere else
[08:47] <Kilos> advice from pro thats always come in handy
[08:47] <nsnzero> now i just email myself everything - let google be my backup
[08:47] <Kilos> eish i have many thousands of mails on gmail
[08:48] <Kilos> thats why i use pop on thunderbird
[08:49] <nsnzero> i created a new email - so i can keep my main email clean - imap works for me 
[08:49] <Kilos> hahaha i have 5 mail accounts
[08:49] <Kilos> imap from them would kill me and my data bundle
[08:49] <magespawn> good morning
[08:49] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[08:50] <nsnzero> hi magespawn 
[08:50] <magespawn> how things there Kilos?
[08:50] <magespawn> hi nsnzero 
[08:50] <Kilos> ok ty magespawn and there?
[08:50] <nsnzero> Kilos:  you can set imap to only get headers - and download only when you want to view the mail
[08:51] <Kilos> too much work pop works fine
[08:52] <nsnzero> i have 1 pop account for ultra secret stuff that ii dont want google accessing 
[08:57] <magespawn> all good, thanks Kilos. been on some training for a couple of weeks and generally busy.
[08:57] <magespawn> nsnzero: why not just encrypt the mail?
[09:03] <nsnzero> magespawn: the mail insist sent by me 
[09:03] <nsnzero> isn't*
[09:04] <nsnzero> chat later guys - have a good day - nap time for me 
[09:50] <Kilos> hi poppingtonic 
[09:51] <Kilos> welcome to ubuntu-za
[09:54] <poppingtonic> Hello Kilos
[09:55] <poppingtonic> I'm from Nairobi
[09:55] <Kilos> cool
[09:55] <Kilos> then you should join #ubuntu-africa channel as well
[09:56] <Kilos> guys from the whole of africa help each other there as well
[09:56] <Kilos> do you need any help poppingtonic 
[09:56] <poppingtonic> That's cool.
[09:57] <inetpro> good mornings
[09:57] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[09:57] <inetpro> oh and hi oom Kilos as well
[09:57] <Kilos> raining here again
[09:57] <Kilos> since sunday 135
[09:57] <poppingtonic> I don't need any help right now, I'm just joining so I can help anyone who needs any. 
[09:57] <inetpro> poppingtonic: hi
[09:57] <Kilos> good to have you here poppingtonic feel free to hang out 24/7
[09:58] <poppingtonic> Yeah, I just set this channel to auto-join, so I'll get notified whenever anyone mentions me.
[09:59] <Kilos> do the same with the africa channel and meet the guys as the pop in
[09:59] <Kilos> we have guys from capetown to tunisia there
[10:00] <poppingtonic> That's great
[10:00] <Kilos> poppingtonic do you know symmetria and zipper
[10:01] <Kilos> the both in networking in kenya
[10:01] <poppingtonic> I see zipper regularly, but I haven't met symmetria in months.
[10:01] <poppingtonic> Probably more than a year since the last time we met.
[10:03] <Kilos> married  life and work keeping him busy it seems , he used to hang here all the time
[10:03] <Kilos> we actually use his mirror for za
[11:03] <chesedo> poppingtonic: hi and welcome
[12:44] <nlsthzn> sup ZA?
[13:03] <chesedo> not much and self nlsthzn?
[13:04] <chesedo> well actually, i have to figure why my mikrotick router is not masquaring 443 traffic...
[13:07] <nlsthzn> sounds painful chesedo :p not to much happening here... thanks for asking :)
[13:09]  * inetpro will sign out of here in a few minutes and will hopefully be back tomorrow
[13:22] <nlsthzn> bai inetpro 
[15:32] <nlsthzn> hi uncle Kilos , how are you?
[15:32] <hibana> wb Kilos
[15:32] <hibana> oh and hi nlsthzn
[15:33] <nlsthzn> hey hibana 
[15:34] <nlsthzn> ah inetpro :p
[15:34] <inetpro> eh ;-)
[15:34] <inetpro> how're you doing nlsthzn?
[15:35] <Kilos> im ok ty nlsthzn and you?
[15:35] <Kilos> inetpro you sorted out already?
[15:35] <nlsthzn> I'm fine thanks :)
[15:35] <inetpro> Kilos: nope, just connected directly now 
[15:36] <Kilos> where is not found fella
[15:36] <Kilos> ah ok inetpro 
[15:36] <inetpro> Kilos: he found his self
[15:36] <Kilos> haha
[15:36] <Kilos> himself
[15:37] <inetpro> Kilos: btw, something seems to have changed on the Telkom side
[15:37] <Kilos> what?
[15:38] <inetpro> the site onnetsecure.telkom.co.za not showing usage info directly any more
[15:38] <inetpro> maybe just temporary
[15:38] <Kilos> oh yes i saw that
[15:38] <Kilos> there is a nother way i think
[15:39] <inetpro> have to login
[15:39] <Kilos> forgotten what i did since we went cellc
[15:39] <Kilos> yes
[15:39] <Kilos> that was a pain i think
[15:39] <Kilos> cellc has 100g for R1000 and you can stretch it over a year if you like'
[15:40] <Kilos> only this voda tower they share here only has edge so im in tortoiseville again
[15:43] <inetpro> yikes!
[15:44] <Kilos> brings back memories though
[15:44] <Kilos> when i went from gprs to edge i thought wow this is fast
[15:44] <Kilos> hahaha
[15:44] <Kilos> what a twit
[15:45] <inetpro> 1c per MB is a nice price
[15:46] <inetpro> just need to have something in place to limit you usage so you don't eat it in one day
[15:46] <inetpro> your usage*
[15:47]  * inetpro should test cellC
[15:48] <Kilos> too much to eat in one day
[15:48] <Kilos> i dont do youtube or download videos
[15:49] <Kilos> 20 mins skype daily
[15:50] <Kilos> they also have 200g for R1500
[15:50] <Kilos> im lucky ian gets the bundles
[15:53] <inetpro> will try it out one of these days
[15:53] <inetpro> my Telkom contract runs out in a month or two
[15:54] <inetpro> if they don't wake up I will jump ship
[15:55] <Kilos> if you get a good cellc signal there there isnt any reason to stay with telkom
[15:55] <inetpro> also planning to keep my current mobile phone and go to prepaid 
[15:55] <inetpro> that way I can switch networks easily
[15:56] <Kilos> i even got telkom to start building another tower near kroondal so telkom signal will be good soon, they just need to give better bundles
[15:57] <Kilos> we can see kroondal from here at night
[15:57] <Kilos> maybe 10 ks away
[15:58] <Kilos> but for now at least im still connected
[16:00] <inetpro> I give up with Vodacom, they're generally still the best network around but useless in my area and aftre so many followups they still don't upgrade the network here to proper LTE
[16:00] <inetpro> and they remain pricey
[16:03]  * nlsthzn is so happy with fibre and unlimited, moving away from this will be torture
[16:03] <Kilos> hahaha
[16:07] <inetpro> nlsthzn: I wish I could get it here
[16:08] <nlsthzn> I remember 8 years ago inquiring about internet and they basically list you the prices and the speed... then all the saffa's were; "But what is the cap?"  They had no idea what we meant
[16:09] <nlsthzn> now if you really want great internet for very cheap you need to be in India...
[16:09] <nlsthzn> wow, competition there is hectic
[16:12] <inetpro> Kilos: how do you manage usage on CellC, do they have a nice interface like Telkom?
[16:13] <Kilos> i have no idea inetpro 
[16:15] <Kilos> https://www.google.co.za/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiKhoKh0qvSAhXGtBQKHf9oCs4QFggbMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cellc.co.za%2Fcellc%2Fprepaid-contract-detail%2FGiga&usg=AFQjCNHEE_BQ9fCM2OfTT9zoHEOdSVhcew
[16:15] <Kilos> ouch sorry
[16:15] <Kilos> i forget to first go to the link
[16:16] <inetpro> 100 Prepaid = R1499 once-off
[16:24] <nsnzero> good afternoon all
[16:24] <inetpro> wb nsnzero
[16:26] <nsnzero> hi inetpro - thanks
[16:27] <nsnzero> question - there is a daemon called upower.service that delays my boot-up by 42 seconds when i have a sd card plugged in 
[16:27] <nsnzero> 44.423s upower.service
[16:28] <nsnzero> report from systemd-analyze blame
[16:28] <inetpro> wow, that is a long delay
[16:30] <inetpro> nsnzero: see: https://upower.freedesktop.org/
[16:35] <nsnzero> thanks inetpro 
[16:35] <inetpro> not that there's much to read there
[16:36] <inetpro> maybe look at this also http://askubuntu.com/questions/765969/long-delay-after-bootin-upower-service-requires-26s
[16:43] <nsnzero> its definately the sd card that is causing the delay - maybe i need to enable something / disable something in bios 
[16:43] <nsnzero> going to experiment abit 
[16:49] <nsnzero> ok after disabling card reader power saving in bios - > success 
[16:49] <nsnzero> upower 429ms upower.service
[16:49] <nsnzero> Startup finished in 10.027s (firmware) + 3.526s (loader) + 13.830s (kernel) + 8.746s (userspace) = 36.130s
[17:02] <Kilos> wb not_found 
[17:03] <not_found> :p
[17:03] <Kilos> ssd fast hey nsnzero 
[17:03]  * not_found has a rogue irc client still running with nlsthzn logged in it seems
[17:03] <not_found> already purged it from app and it still lingers 
[17:03] <Kilos> i put one in the thinkpad and was amazed at the performance
[17:03] <not_found> persistent bugger :p
[17:03] <Kilos> lol
[17:04] <nsnzero> hi Kilos | not_found 
[17:04] <not_found> o/ nsnzero 
[17:05] <nsnzero> my other latop with normal hdd boots in 49 seconds though - so i going to make this 1 faster 
[17:06] <not_found> not only don't I have a ssd but my "new" hdd I bought is a 5400rpm green drive (s l          o                     w                                                  !)
[17:08] <nsnzero> the WD green drives are slower - maximum power saving  
[17:11] <nsnzero> i wonder if i can put root on a sd card and home on the hdd 
[17:12] <nsnzero> like a ghetto hybrid ssd/hdd combo
[17:12] <Kilos> google it , i think ive seen something about that
[17:13] <Kilos> what size ssd you got?
[17:14] <not_found> nsnzero, exactly my point
[17:16] <nsnzero> this 1 is 16G got a 32G lying somewhere 
[17:21] <nsnzero> sorry Kilos its a 120G evo - lol - 
[17:22] <nsnzero> the sd card is 16 G - nsnzero doesnt read before typing 
[17:29] <inetpro> not_found: find your self man
[17:30] <Kilos> i was lucky, my ssd is 128g
[17:31] <Kilos> crashed on windows pc and the IT guys couldnt fix it cheap i think
[17:33] <Kilos> kept crashing with any windows, i zeroed it and put kde on and been running fine for near 6 months i think
[17:33] <nsnzero> got mine from school by asking nicely 
[17:33] <Kilos> lol
[17:35] <nsnzero> they dont know this is linux - they think its windows 10 with a funny theme
[17:37] <Kilos> lol
[17:39] <nsnzero> now i need to get a these icons to look nice and flashy - i dont like the flat minimalistic breeze icons
[18:12] <theblazehen> http://tracker.ceph.com/projects/ceph/wiki/Ceph-Brag The existence of this is even more reason for me to move to ceph at home. Will be a lot simpler than my current config as well
[18:14] <nsnzero> hi theblazehen 
[18:14] <nsnzero> what is ceph ?
[18:15] <theblazehen> hey nsnzero. Basically like a way to spread storage across multiple nodes etc
[18:16] <theblazehen> https://ceph.com/
[18:17] <nsnzero> oh ok - like a NAS system
[18:17] <nsnzero> NAS = Network Assisted Storage
[18:21] <theblazehen> Pretty much if you use cephfs
[18:22] <theblazehen> Currently using just plain iscsi
[18:23] <inetpro> theblazehen: have you played around with gluster?
[18:23] <theblazehen> inetpro a bit some time back, iirc it can't do tiered storage?
[18:42] <not_found> night all
[18:46]  * inetpro needs to make time to play with ceph
[19:05] <Kilos> inetpro are you finished yet?
[19:06] <Kilos> hurry man i need to sleep
[19:28] <nsnzero> lol
[19:35] <andrewlsd_> night all
[19:41] <inetpro> Kilos: finished with what?
[19:42] <Kilos> work man
[19:42]  * inetpro never works
[19:42] <Kilos> hahaha
[19:42] <Kilos> are you home
[19:42] <inetpro> it will be done when it is done
[19:42] <Kilos> sigh
[19:42] <Kilos> ok then i gonna sleep now
[19:43] <Kilos> im old you know
[19:43] <inetpro> haha, please go and have a rest oom Kilos
[19:43] <Kilos> and more importantly im tired
[19:43] <inetpro> don't want you to get older now
[19:43] <Kilos> hahahha
[19:43] <Kilos> ok be good. see you tomorrow
[19:43] <inetpro> sleep makes you younger
[19:43] <Kilos>  night all. sleep tight
[19:43] <inetpro> nag oom
[20:43] <inetpro> Maaz: watch them
[20:43] <Maaz> oh inetpro I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon!
[20:43] <inetpro> good night
[20:56] <smile> You leaving, inetpro?