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Bashing-omAfdal: Afdal Maybe check ' cat /var/log/dpkg.log00:01
kaosineBashing-om: especially since my sister is going to be using it and I want the thing to last for as long as possible once I get the disk burned and installed to try laptop00:01
k1lAfdal: /var/log/apt/ and look at the logs there00:02
Bashing-omkaosine: I am prejudiced in favor of xfce . All I can say .00:02
Mitchywhat command line web browser uses the least of resources ?00:03
Afdalhmmph00:03
DocMAXpavlos, rc2 is before what?00:03
kaosineBashing-om: that's what another guy was telling me so probably downloading xubuntu then to make things easy00:03
AfdalWell I don't see "libopus" or "opus" in recent package updates anywhere...00:03
AfdalWhat could it have been that broke Opus detection00:04
wedgieMitchy: curl or wget are what you want. And you've already been given examples for both of them.00:04
Mitchyok sorry00:05
Mitchywget i only used for downloading00:06
kaosineBashing-om: which means the computer will be going from Vista to xubuntu. Man that still feels weird to say. Though I hope I can teach my sister how to export from libre to ms00:06
Bashing-omkaosine: While xfce is very customizable and cinfigurable to the extreme - getting away from default is a steep learning curve - there be dragons ! But it is why is it so configurable !00:07
kaosineBashing-om: I just know I'm staying far away from unity. That is a resource hog. I liked gnome better00:08
Bashing-omkaosine: You are going about it the right direction ; burn ya a xubuntu disk amd see what you like .00:09
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kaosineBashing-om: if I don't (or in this case my sister) I have 9 more discs XD00:10
Bashing-omkaosine: http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ .00:11
Mitchywedgie i did a little readback  but when i try the given example of do wget -qO- http://www.google.com > sleep 300; done            i get syntax error00:13
tgm4883Mitchy: it would help to post the error, but my guess is that sleep doesn't take that input00:14
tgm4883you probably want && there00:14
wedgiethe > makes no sense. change that to a ;00:14
tgm4883or rather, stick it in cron00:14
tgm4883yea ; is better than && in this case00:15
wedgie15:06 < OerHeks> Mitchy, something like " while true; do wget -qO- http://www.google.com > /dev/null; sleep 300; done "00:15
Mitchyim trying to learn but idk how to go about that00:15
tgm4883you apparently fail at copy & paste00:15
wedgieor, cron:00:15
tgm4883which is ok, we all fail sometimes :)00:16
wedgie15:48 < wedgie> Mitchy: run ''crontab -e'' then enter this:00:16
wedgie15:48 < wedgie> */5 * * * * /usr/bin/curl --silent http://your.site.com/whatever.php > /dev/null 2>&100:16
Mitchyi never used cron so im sorry i dont know00:16
tgm4883first things first, I'd make sure that running "/usr/bin/curl --silent http://your.site.com/whatever.php" does what you want it to00:16
tgm4883Mitchy: for as much leeway that I give new users, wedgie literally gave you the exact command to run and the exact line to add....00:17
wedgiehas to substitute his own URL, of course, but yeah.00:17
Mitchysorry i got on your nerves, im used to see what happends and when i copy the command  while true; do wget -qO- http://www.google.com > /dev/null; sleep 300; done    nothing happends  at least not that i can see00:21
wedgieMitchy: that's by design. It runs every 5 mins and hides all output. Because, presumably, you don't care what the output was, only that the script got hit and did whatever twitter stuff that it does.00:22
Mitchyaha ok thanks for clearing that part00:23
wedgieremove the    > /dev/null    if you really want to see it00:25
Mitchyit creates a sleep file in my folder00:28
lucidguyany mdadm savvy people here?00:29
wedgieMitchy: then you're still not copy/pasting correctly :(00:29
Mitchywhile true; do wget -qO- http://www.google.com >  sleep 300; done00:30
Mitchythats what i used00:30
wedgieI don't think I can help you. I'm sorry.00:31
Mitchyah i forgot to remove the >00:32
roadrunneratwasthi gang.  i hope my computer isn't breaking down again.  but probably00:34
roadrunneratwasti am getting i/o errors on boot00:34
roadrunneratwastblk_update_request butffer I/O error on /dev/sda00:35
roadrunneratwastsector00:35
roadrunneratwastwhat do i want to do now?  run fsck.ext4 on the next boot?00:36
Ben64sounds like a dying hard drive00:36
roadrunneratwasthow do i do this ?00:36
roadrunneratwast:(00:36
roadrunneratwastnooooooooo00:36
roadrunneratwasti went through this before00:36
Bashing-omroadrunneratwast: In the case of I/O erroros - 1st thing is check the hard drive's health . smartmontools .00:36
roadrunneratwastyeah00:36
roadrunneratwastsmart tools said it wasn't so healthy00:36
pavlosDocMAX, I suggested /etc/rc2.d/ which is multi-user and networking. Isnt that runlevel the earliest you can use?00:37
DocMAXand then? what i need to do?00:37
DocMAXput a script in there?00:37
roadrunneratwastso do i need to get a new hard drive?00:37
roadrunneratwastor can i do fsck -c ?00:38
Ben64time to replace the drive00:38
roadrunneratwastno00:38
roadrunneratwasti just replaced it00:39
roadrunneratwastugh00:39
DocMAXi need to mount after network is up00:39
tarballhello everyone, I have two lists of packages that I created with aptitude and dpkg respectively. now I am trying to install them on a new system, but I couldnt find the right command in my searches00:39
lafleurdubienAnybody have an issue with Ubuntu 16.04 where wifi stops working and you are unable to reconnect?00:40
Bashing-omroadrunneratwast: Might be best ' sudo smartctl --all /dev/sda | pastebinit ' and we have a gander at the data .00:40
roadrunneratwastok00:40
wedgietarball: what format is this list in?00:40
tarballwedgie, both are plain text files00:41
tarballone list is from dpkg, the other from aptitude00:41
roadrunneratwastbashing-om  it started when i forced quit from a slow hibernate00:41
wedgietarball: can you patebin the contents? A handful of lines from each file should be fine00:42
roadrunneratwastrather it was slow to wake up from a hibernate http://paste.ubuntu.com/24061998/00:42
tarballwedgie, sure00:43
ragnarock_2Woohoo!00:43
ragnarock_2Connected to IRC via Power mac 7500 :D00:43
roadrunneratwastcan you tell anything from the  # 1  Short offline       Completed: read failure       90%      4950         24753444100:43
roadrunneratwastis that doom?00:43
roadrunneratwastimpending doom00:43
roadrunneratwast?00:44
lafleurdubienPlease help! My 16.04 installation loses wifi connection after suspend and its completely unable to reconnect00:44
lafleurdubienhappens every time I wake from suspend00:45
wedgieroadrunneratwast: yes, impending doom. Make sure your backups are current00:45
roadrunneratwastugh00:45
Bashing-omroadrunneratwast: Toss that drive . No longer able to reallocate bad sectors among several other problems .00:45
roadrunneratwast:(00:46
roadrunneratwastblah00:47
Bashing-omroadrunneratwast: Hey It happens . Even the best drives only have a 5 year life expenctancy . Good thing that SSDs have come on .. Hard drives are cheap !00:48
roadrunneratwastthey are much cheaper than i thought00:48
roadrunneratwastso that's good00:48
wedgieroadrunneratwast: take the opportunity ot upgrade to an ssd :D00:49
Bashing-omroadrunneratwast: +1 wedgie . Makes a world of difference .00:49
roadrunneratwastdo you think an fsck would help tide me over?00:49
roadrunneratwastfor a bit?00:50
wedgieroadrunneratwast: no. It's not a filesystem problem00:50
wedgiethat drive is a ticking timebomb. Plan accordingly00:50
tarballwedgie, I tried a few things meanwhile but still cant get it right..this is the paste: paste.ubuntu.com/2406202900:50
roadrunneratwastoh fiddlesticks00:50
Bashing-omroadrunneratwast: That drive is dying . IF there is anything on that drive you value . get it off that drive NOW / Do not use it untill your data is safe .00:51
roadrunneratwastbah i don't have anything important on here00:51
roadrunneratwastbut muck fy lime00:52
Bashing-omroadrunneratwast: I can feel a new fresh install of 16.04 on a most excellent SSD in your furure .00:52
roadrunneratwasthaha00:53
roadrunneratwastthanks00:53
deathSongWhats up bitch00:55
Aurorasaurasudo chmod 444 /test00:55
tarballwedgie, and this is from the output of dpkg method of listing: paste.ubuntu.com/2406204700:55
tarballboth files have 'i' at the start of each line, and the commands I tried rejected it..and without 'i' they give 'unable to locate package X', x being the file name in the output00:57
lafleurdubienFresh install of 16.04.02 and everytime I wake from suspend I cannot connect to wifi. Even with running systemctl network-manager.service restart. The only way to get it back is reboot.00:57
wedgietarball: pkgs=(); while read -r; do pkgs+=( $(awk '{print $2}') ); done < <(cat packages otherpackages) ; echo sudo apt-get install "${pkgs[@]}"01:02
FManwhat is this 16.4.2 now?01:02
wedgietarball: substitute "packages" and "otherpackages" with whatever your file names are01:03
wedgietarball: and if that outputs something that looks sane, remove the "echo" and run it again01:03
naccFMan: normal .release of the LTS01:05
naccFMan: includes the HWE stuff by default01:05
tarballwedgie, thank you so much, trying them now01:05
FManwhen did that come out?01:05
OerHeksyear 2016, month 0401:06
FManno, the .201:06
naccFMan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases01:06
FManhmh, why haven't I been told about this?01:06
naccFMan: are you already on 16.04?01:07
OerHekshostnamectl status # will show you01:07
tarballwedgie, I think that is sane :) the output is 'sudo apt-get install package1 package2 package3...package n'01:07
wedgietarball: :)   then run it again without the echo01:08
tarballwedgie, without echo it prompts to command line, without installing01:08
naccFMan: if you are, and if you've kept it up to date you are already on 16.04.201:09
naccFMan: the only difference would be opting iin to HWE01:09
wedgieprompts? It should prompt for your sudo password and then run apt-get install with all of those packages01:09
nacc!hwe | FMan01:09
ubottuFMan: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack01:09
wedgietarball: pkgs=(); while read -r; do pkgs+=( $(awk '{print $2}') ); done < <(cat packages otherpackages) ; sudo apt-get install "${pkgs[@]}"01:10
tarballwedgie, instantly I have another problem (though this happened for the second time in the last half hour)..the monitor gets black while along the left edge green-colored pixels move, and in a few seconds the computer shuts down..this has not happened before, but happening with this fresh install.01:11
wedgieO_o01:11
tarballas a reason I think of that I didnt install the mentioned third party software for graphics, wifi, flash etc..01:12
FManI don't know what HWE stacks are and that page doesn't explain it01:12
tarballcould it be for that reasonß01:12
tarball?01:12
naccFMan: then you didn't read that page -- HWE = Hardware Enablement = LTS Enablement Stack01:12
wedgieI doubt it. That sounds more serious. But i've never encountered such a thing so I'm not sure01:12
OerHeksFMan, "provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS"  basicly01:13
naccFMan: updated the acronym expansion onto the wiki page01:13
FManI did not read it completely, but it doesn't explain it01:13
naccFMan: literally the first full sentence on the page01:14
OerHeksFMan, well, it does, not without reading.01:14
FManit talks about LTS Enablement Stacks, not HWE01:14
naccFMan: as i just said, i added the bit that's confusing you01:14
FManI think you are all in a conspiracy to confuse me01:14
naccFMan: hit refresh01:14
naccFMan: they are the same01:14
naccFMan: added the bit that clarifies what is confusing you01:15
tarballI will check syslogs..hope it tells something01:15
naccFMan: two terms for the same thing01:15
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FManI think my hardware is already enabled01:15
happyfr0ggI am getting sick and tired of these GPG No Public Key errors from apt.  ARRRRRRHHHH.01:15
joselunahola01:16
bazhang!gpgerr | happyfr0gg have you seen this01:16
ubottuhappyfr0gg have you seen this: Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> »01:16
tarballthe only other thing I changed was to disable Intel AMT01:16
tarballah, and a bios update01:16
FManit also talks about GA stacks01:16
naccFMan: GA = General Availability, the version that shipped with 16.04.101:17
happyfr0ggubottu, Do I take the GPG key from the error I get from apt and include that in the command you gave me?01:17
ubottuhappyfr0gg: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:17
Bashing-omhappyfr0gg: ?? maybe ' sudo apt-key update ' <-which can fix the missing Ubuntu keys .01:18
OERIASCan Someone help with an error that says something about withholding broken packages?01:18
Bashing-omOERIAS: Pastebin the command and the error . we see what we can do .01:18
happyfr0ggBashing-om, I get 'resource limits'.01:19
happyfr0gg4 processed and 4 unchanged.01:19
happyfr0gg11 of them show resource limits at the end of their lines.01:21
Mitchy is there a gui in ubuntu 16.04 (unity) for making cron jobs?01:21
Bashing-omhappyfr0gg: Ouch !! .. just how many keys do you have ' ls /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d | wc -l ' ?01:22
OerHeks!info gnome-schedule01:23
ubottuPackage gnome-schedule does not exist in yakkety01:23
OerHeksoh01:23
OERIASBashing-om, do you know of the command that can produce the error?01:24
Mitchyyeh i noticed  that01:24
happyfr0ggBashing-om,  9101:24
Bashing-omOERIAS: You can run ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' see if the error is repeatd .01:24
tarballis there important graphics software that needs to be manually installed among the third party software that is optionally presented during OS install?01:25
Bashing-omhappyfr0gg: Yukkie ! .. Look there is a 40 key limit . See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1263540 .01:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1263540 in apt (Ubuntu) "Apt-get reports NO_PUBKEY gpg error for keys that are present in trusted.gpg." [Undecided,Fix released]01:26
happyfr0ggBashing-om, I am at the link you provided. How do I apply the fix?01:29
Bashing-omhappyfr0gg: Start removing apps and keys that you do not use . You have to get below 40 keys .01:30
OerHeks91 keys... it is a record !!!01:31
happyfr0ggI have to have less than 40 softwares on my system for my Ubuntu to be more relevent than Windows?01:31
Bashing-omhappyfr0gg: see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2195579 for some background and guidance .01:31
Mitchyi thank u all for ur patience , once i got my head out of my (where the sun wont shine) i figured out what to do due to the help from you guys01:32
nacchappyfr0gg: i have very little idea why you would need > 40 PPAs on a system01:32
OERIASBashing-om, Sudo apt update produces this : http://pastebin.com/D3JyAT5X01:32
OerHeksMitchy, have fun, sorry i could not find a cron gui01:33
happyfr0ggI have a bunch of software on my system that I have installed over the last few years.01:33
nacchappyfr0gg: all from PPAs? why? you understand there's no guarantee any of it is good, or maintained, etc.01:34
Bashing-omOERIAS: So far so good " 4 packages can be upgraded " carry on with ' sudo apt upgrade ' :)01:34
Mitchyits ok oerheks i was to impatient and ignorant you guys are aesome01:34
happyfr0ggCan I delete PPA's without affecting the software installed?01:35
uzjsnyes01:35
OERIASBashing-om, also worth noting Transmission has "Disappeared"01:35
OerHekshappyfr0gg, ppa-purge works with correct keys, AFAIK...01:35
OerHeks!ppapurge01:35
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html01:35
tarballas I mentioned above, I recently got two instant display blackouts followed by shutdowns in a short interval..I've just excluded third party software during my fresh install. could that be related to this problem?01:36
tarballlike drivers etc.?01:36
uzjsndoes your system overheat?01:36
tarballuzjsn, no01:36
tarballin additional drivers I only see an intel microcode firmware01:37
nacchappyfr0gg: you can remove a PPA from your sources, but that makes you even more insecure, in some sense -- then if the PPA owner was to update, you won't see it01:37
tarballI just ran a bios update yesterday, and plugged/unplugged cmos socket, but after that I could work for long hours without problem, with my old OS.01:38
nacchappyfr0gg: but if you use ppa-purge it will remove both the ppa and the installed software01:38
OerHekstarball, forgotten to plug the powercord back in the videocard?01:38
happyfr0ggnacc, including their gpg keys.01:38
happyfr0gg??01:38
tarballOerHeks, but I haven't touched the videocard01:39
happyfr0ggnacc, including their gpg keys???01:39
OerHekstarball, your issue sounds like it. else i have no clue.01:40
tarballI was only trying some ram modules and meanwhile saw cmos cable was disconnected. I connected it and then removed again01:40
tarballOerHeks, graphic card was also what came to my mind..is there a way to check the health/proper running of it?01:41
happyfr0ggI had no idea that there was a limit of the number of software I could have installed on a Ubuntu system. That fucking sucks.01:41
nacc!language | happyfr0gg01:41
ubottuhappyfr0gg: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList01:41
tgm4883I'm not aware of any such limitation other than your hard drive space01:42
nacchappyfr0gg: you're not really restricted in that sense. You are restricted in the number of repositories that apt-key can handle it seems01:42
nacchappyfr0gg: that one is tied to the other for PPAs is its own issue.01:42
nacchappyfr0gg: but again, you ahven't really answered why you thought you needed 91 PPAs01:42
happyfr0ggI don't know.01:42
tarballwedgie, the recent command doesnt install the packages, while it mentions which packages are missing/not available among them..I thought about running your first command that returned all package names after apt-get install, copy them, and run01:42
nacchappyfr0gg: not a great answer for something you can only do as root01:43
happyfr0ggI have installed software from PPA's over the years and was not aware of the GPG resource limit.01:43
tarballdoes "Checxbox" provide relevant info on this?01:45
tgm4883happyfr0gg: did you paste the error message somewhere?01:46
nacchappyfr0gg: and you understand what a PPA is and the implication of it?01:46
Bashing-omhappyfr0gg: Mind ya lots I do not know . but : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2195579 . ( I have yet to steer you wrong in all this time ) .01:46
happyfr0ggA PPA is similar to Windows executables?01:47
nacchappyfr0gg: no01:47
nacchappyfr0gg: a PPA is like a separate archive, meaning anything you install from it, you are expressing trust to be installed as root on your system01:47
nacchappyfr0gg: and it's wholly unsupported01:48
kaosineBashing-om: welp I may have screwed up one disc if i can get the stupid thing to stop...meant to use etcher and used the mac burner instead >_<01:48
nacchappyfr0gg: except by the PPA owner01:48
Bashing-omkaosine: Ya bark'n up an alley I can not echo .. I no do Windows or Mac .01:49
kaosineBashing-om: I only do it since my mom bought the computer I'm on(well the one this replaces) whoops01:50
wedgietarball: if you just want the packages in a copy-paste friendly format: awk '{printf "%s ", $2}' file1 file201:50
kaosineonce this comptuer goes out of warranty I'm putting ubu on it though >_>01:50
tgm4883happyfr0gg: to reiterate what nacc is saying, PPA's should only be added if you trust the people making the PPA, as it's trivial to put malware on a PPA01:51
happyfr0ggMy main source of software was launchpad.01:51
tgm4883and with 91, I'm doubting you trust all of them01:52
nacchappyfr0gg: that's ridiculous.01:52
tgm4883happyfr0gg: not sure what that has to do with anything. It's trivial to put malware on a PPA on launchpad01:52
happyfr0ggI thought launchpad was safe.01:52
happyfr0ggI thought it was a legit source of good open source software.01:53
tgm4883happyfr0gg: it's no more a source of legit good open source software than github is01:53
tgm4883which is to say, anyone can put anything up there01:53
nacc!ppa | happyfr0gg01:53
ubottuhappyfr0gg: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge01:53
gaurav2how to install java in Ubuntu01:54
StatelessCatgaurav2: did u read the wiki page on this ? 01:56
OerHeks!java01:56
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.01:56
pinPointI just installed SpamAssassin, I noticed it created what looked like a group/user 'debian-spamd' for Ubuntu 16.04.x. Is that group/user 'debian-spamd' needed?01:57
pinPointI since created my own groupd spamd and useradd -g spamd with -s /bin/false01:57
gaurav2yes but I have one site it's working on windows it's need java and dot net and working fine in Win 7 but I switch to ubuntu and that site not work because i think no java01:58
kaosineoh lovely my computer doesn't like this DVD drive for writing a image of ubu too01:59
gaurav2I want to switch to all 20 computer from windows to ubuntu if that site work on ubuntu my company's all work on that site if site not work then I can't use ubuntu02:01
wedgiegaurav2: did ou read the link OerHeks sent you? It details how to install java02:02
OerHeksgaurav2, well, install java or better openjdk then?02:02
gaurav2 ok I'll try it today then ill tell you what issue arise thanks all02:03
Bashing-omkaosine: And we are back to " does not Mac have the tool 'dd' to write a hybrid image file to disk ?" .02:03
kaosineBashing-om: it does but I think the issue is that for some odd reason it needs both ports so I'm going to have to see if I can somehow take etcher to the vista computer and burn the image that way then reboot it and install02:04
kaosineBashing-om: my computer is seeing this thing as a 8kb disc when it's supposed to be 4.7gb XD02:06
Bashing-omkaosine: Ouch ! .. and what does a known medium report ?02:09
kaosineBashing-om: IDK I'm guessing it really needs the second port so I'm going to hope I can get it onto the destination computer burn it and then reboot and install02:10
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semohello02:23
shabang_ganghello02:23
shabang_gangnothing happens02:27
semohow to install adobe afftra effect on ubuntu ?02:27
semo?02:28
dimisdassemo: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=64802:29
semothanks :)02:30
happyfr0ggHow do I delete a backup file? I see in my file manager a file with a ~ at the end of its extension.02:31
happyfr0ggNothing is contained in the backup file when opened with gedit.02:32
dimisdashappyfr0gg: http://askubuntu.com/questions/90515/where-do-files-ending-with-a-come-from02:33
happyfr0ggI am in the process of purging PPAs and softwware I no longer use. Trying to bring the number of GPG keys down to 40 or less.02:33
dimisdashappyfr0gg: unset backup02:34
craptalki got lenovo IdeaPad 310 15ABR, it seems that it has a bit of heat near the touchpad, how can i check if the fan is running on my machine?02:34
craptalki tried using thinkpad program but is there any other way?02:34
craptalkor is the heat normal thing?02:35
dimisdascraptalk: read into lm-sensors02:36
dimisdascraptalk: it will give you the “sensors” command that prints temperatures and fan rpm02:36
junktext_craptalk, also your BIOS may have a display menu of your laptop's temperatures detected.02:42
kaosinephew almost done with the burn of ubu to dvd ^_^02:43
junktext_Nice!02:43
craptalkjunktext_, i got this message Sorry, no sensors were detected.02:44
craptalkThis is relatively common on laptops, where thermal management is02:44
craptalkhandled by ACPI rather than the OS.02:44
kaosinejunktext_: well xubu....I'm going as light as possible on this thing right now02:44
craptalkwhat does it mean?02:44
junktext_craptalk, so where did you get that message? You already checked out your BIOS menus?02:45
craptalki got it on my terminal, i run sensors-detect02:46
craptalkit shows me that msg02:46
junktext_Ah, yeah, I usually first check the BIOS itself as it has lower-level access.02:46
dimisdasI’ll take a guess and say that power management is not done by Ubuntu but something else, like BIOS02:47
dimisdaspower and thermal management *02:47
junktext_But, not every BIOS/UEFI has temperature readings.02:47
dimisdasCheck junktext_’s suggestion02:47
craptalkwell, what kind of configuration can i do in BIOS? is enable or disable thing?02:47
craptalkcan i configure the speed of fans or something like that?02:48
junktext_It depends on your BIOS, craptalk. But, what I am saying is that you could reboot your computer and enter the BIOS menu using like the F2 or F12 key. Within the BIOS it may show you various temperatures.02:48
kaosineWell that was weird. Xubuntu installer loaded weirdly and slow there for a bit02:49
junktext_There may be a way to report the temperatures to Ubuntu, but I've never really cared to do that. Although, dimisdas is likely correct on his suggestion on that aspect.02:50
dimisdascraptalk: there’s a github project for fan control for linux kernels with the thinkpad-acpi patch, take a look02:52
dimisdashttps://github.com/Stanko/ThinkPad-Fan-Control02:52
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kaosineBashing-om: got it installed. That is a HUGE difference in preformance on that thing03:19
kaosineI just nee dto get wifi working later >_>03:19
Bashing-omkaosine: See unity is a resource hog :) It takes a modern full blown system to run unity as unity wants .03:20
kaosineBashing-om: it's not unity that's the hog in this case it was windows vista and all the stupid bloatware that system had originally03:21
OERIASBashing-om, I updated and it still didn't solve my issue03:22
OERIASIt still says I have broken packages on Synaptic03:22
elflacohiya03:23
elflacohow do you save your iptables rules on ubuntu 14.04 ?03:24
Bashing-omOERIAS: Pastebin ' sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ' . So I see the errors on context .03:26
OERIASBashing-om, sudo apt full-upgrade brings this: http://pastebin.com/v1RnYbKh03:28
elflacois 'sudo service iptables-persistent save' enough to make the iptables rules persistent upon reboot ?03:28
OERIASBashing-om, sudo apt -f install brings this: http://pastebin.com/7Ug6iCUs03:30
kaosineok I think I may have the wireless enabled now hopefully had to isntall a weird driver using the eth port03:31
Bashing-omOERIAS: Humm what shows ' apt-cache policy oxideqt-codecs-extra ' .03:32
kaosineHeck yeah! My wireless networks are showing up in xubuntu now :D03:32
Bashing-om!info oxideqt-codecs-extra xenial03:33
Transtibotquestion: I am trying to mount an iso image using ubuntu 14. For some reason I cant get any of the programs I found to work: Furious ISO , Gmount-iso. Is there an alternative program I should use? when I try and loop it says false or error.03:33
ubottuoxideqt-codecs-extra (source: oxide-qt): Web browser engine for Qt (codecs). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.20.4-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 (xenial), package size 1025 kB, installed size 3865 kB03:33
Bashing-omTranstibot: Maybe try : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot <-allow booting/installing an .iso directly from the hard drive.03:34
Transtibotthank you Bashing-om i'll try that03:35
Bashing-omTranstibot: Glad2help . It works for me :)03:36
Bashing-omTranstibot: Be aware you do not have to make up or edit a config file . You can boot direct from the grub prompt .03:37
OERIASBashing-om, http://pastebin.com/Y7L41SsE03:40
kaosinefudge got the thing installed but it's not working >_<03:41
Transtibotthank u :)03:43
Bashing-omOERIAS: Kinda curious huh ??.. what results ' dpkg -l oxideqt-codecs ' ? If not installed then run 'sudo apt install --reinstall oxideqt-codecs-extra '  and pastebin that output .03:46
kaosineman that was a tricky driver for what's installed into the computer03:46
OERIASBashing-om, http://pastebin.com/qFP5mqhF03:49
OERIASBashing-om,  http://pastebin.com/qEYMtJf003:51
Bashing-omOERIAS: OK, not installed, what results un attenpting to re-install oxideqt-codecs-extra ?03:52
OERIASI reinstalled it03:52
OERIAShttp://pastebin.com/qFP5mqhF03:52
Bashing-om!info unity-tweak-tool xenial | OERIAS03:55
ubottuOERIAS: unity-tweak-tool (source: unity-tweak-tool): configuration tool for the Unity desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.7ubuntu2 (xenial), package size 367 kB, installed size 2797 kB03:55
OERIASBashing-om, so uninstall tweak tool?03:56
Bashing-omOERIAS: Looks good but is the status now of unity-tweak-tool and webapps ? // I do not think anything else is required for a stable system at this point . but what shows now ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo dpkg -C ' ?03:58
kaosineBashing-om: thanks for your help. I got the computer working again so that's one project down out of the five computers I have that I want to try and revive in some way04:00
imbezolanyone make video with their ubuntu system? trying to find an easy software to get started with04:01
kaosineBeyond that server that I'll have to take a stab at after work tomorrow04:01
OERIASBashing-om, : http://pastebin.com/3pE5Z1ap04:01
Bashing-omkaosine: Great . Ya know the drill now . lubuntu and go from there :)04:02
kaosineimbezol: I hear openshot is good and light works might be decent04:02
OERIASBashing-om, : sudo apt full-upgrade04:02
kaosineBashing-om: well the other ones are likely to be revived as authentic computers to play some old PC games on04:02
OERIASBashing-om, : http://pastebin.com/5JVUxQ6e04:03
OERIASBashing-om, http://pastebin.com/1KQnRnRR04:03
Bashing-omOERIAS: Looks good to me . now clean up ' sudo apt autoremove ' .04:05
OERIASBashing-om,  http://pastebin.com/XthCELy104:06
Bashing-omOERIAS: And still look'n good . I expect you are good to go :)04:10
OERIASBashing-om, I get this when installing Deluge: http://pastebin.com/WyMFH6gc04:14
Bashing-omOERIAS: Do ' apt-cache depends deluge-gtk ' , Now, do you read this the same way I do in that one or the other may be installed but not both ?04:18
trentspiirc.mozilla.org04:20
OERIASBashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/24062737/04:21
Bashing-omOERIAS: So, what thinks you " Breaks: deluge " ?04:23
OERIASBashing-om, I can't install anything on this computer04:24
OERIASand It has been frustrating me for the past six weeks04:24
OERIASI can't install transmission, which was removed.04:25
OERIASNot even lynx the cli web browser04:25
Bashing-omOERIAS: Ih we get to the bottom of it . Bit I think ya got to make a choice here , ya want deluge installed then ya must remove deluge-gtk . Is my thought .04:26
OERIASbut it isn't installed04:26
OERIASI have never installed Deluge04:27
OERIASI am trying to install it since I need to download a torrent04:27
Bashing-omOERIAS: Most of the times we find that PPAs are causing the interference with repo packages . Want to check your PPA sources and insure all are maintained ?04:29
OerHeksi see http://ppa.launchpad.net/transmissionbt/ppa/ubuntu xenial InRelease in his list04:29
OERIASBashing-om, sure. I was thinking it was ppa since some of them are broken04:30
OerHekshttps://launchpad.net/~transmissionbt/+archive/ubuntu/ppa this one is valid04:30
OerHeksbut i would just use the regular transmission, nothing wrong with that.04:30
Bashing-omOerHeks: Oh waht sharp eyes you have .04:30
OerHeksbut about dependencie problems, did you run sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade ??04:31
Bashing-omOerHeks: OERIAS // Uh huh .. we past that and we were stable with no dpkg issues untill attempted install of additional packages . Work'n through it .04:33
OERIASNew Pastebin: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24062783/04:33
OerHeksgood, now install transmission ( from that ppa)   sudo apt install transmission04:35
Bashing-omOERIAS: K; " 1 package can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see it. " do as suggested and let's see ' apt list --upgradable ' .04:36
OERIASOerHeks,04:36
OERIAShttps://paste.ubuntu.com/24062789/04:36
ragnarock_2Ubuntu seems to be stuck in one resolution after I did "do release-upgrade" from 12.04 to 14.04.5. For reference I'm using an ATI Radeon 7000 card. Not sure where to start or what info to give anyone :/04:37
OERIASBashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/24062795/04:37
OERIASWhich I can't install04:37
OERIASbecause all the terminal says is "you have broken packages04:38
Bashing-omOERIAS: OerHeks :: ' apt-cache policy transmission ' and consider ppa-purge ??04:38
OerHeksOERIAS, ugh, bad ppa .. Bashing-om yes, sudo ppa-purge ppa:transmissionbt/ppa # and after this install transmission ( original)04:38
OERIAScommand not found04:39
OerHeksBashing-om, and you are right about that package, but i gave full-upgrade, that would install it anyway .. odd04:39
Bashing-omOerHeks: OERIAS Uh huh strange , a carry over also from libre-office PPA for " libreoffice-style-elementary " . ??04:42
OERIASBashing-om, I think that is a theme for libreoffice04:43
Bashing-om!ppa | OERIAS04:43
ubottuOERIAS: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge04:43
OERIASSo what should I do?04:44
OerHeksOERIAS, i am crawling in that ppa list of yours, most of them are theme related04:46
OerHeksno clue why this happened to you04:46
OERIASBecause I got the ppas from OMG!Ubuntu04:47
OerHeks( and again a reminder to myself: stay away from funny ppa's)04:47
OERIASI customise the theme of ubuntu since the defaults are lame!04:47
OerHeksmaybe the bug is not in 1 ppa, but a combo of 2 or more ppas...04:47
ragnarock_2Hm, maybe this could be a better question: What's the big difference between the proprietary and open source Radeon drivers?04:47
ragnarock_2Cause I'm getting ready to reinstall one of them to see what happens :p04:48
OerHeksragnarock_2, open radeon or amdgpu, you get the driver automaticly for your hardware04:48
uzjsnone works, other pretends to04:48
tatertotsragnarock_2: in terminal>       sudo apt install inxi pastebinit04:48
Bashing-omOERIAS: Well. our goal here is a stable syste, . Were me I would revert transmission to the repo version, and maybe also libreoffice . what now ; ' apt-cache policy libreoffice ' ?04:48
tatertotsragnarock_2: let me know when it's done04:48
ragnarock_2I'm running on an old as bones Powermac, just trying to find out which one's best for it :)04:49
ragnarock_2And okay!04:49
OERIASBashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/24062824/04:49
uzjsnsometimes it is better to remove the conflicting packages from /var/lib/dpkg/status04:50
uzjsnthey will continue to work, but the system will forget about them and their conflicts04:50
Bashing-omragnarock_2: 16.04+ in AMD it is only open source . AMD is trying real hard to make us happy .04:50
uzjsnapt is not a very good package manager and doesn't handle package conflicts well04:51
ragnarock_2Oh nice :)04:51
u_uhi im having trouble removing a ppa from my system using ppa purge04:51
OerHeksuzjsn, that would be fixed with apt install -f04:52
u_uim using this command: sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-desktop/gtk320 but when apt tries to update i get a 404 error04:52
uzjsnOerHeks: it won't be fixed, that command will delete packages with broken dependencies, sometimes the entire set of X software04:52
OerHeksu_u, on what ubuntu version?04:52
u_uxenial04:53
OerHeksu_u, too soon, ppa is for the next yakkety 16.10 >> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/gtk32004:53
Bashing-omOERIAS: Getting the more curios all the time . As libreoffice is not installed why then does the system want " libreoffice-style-elementary " ?? Let's see what results ' sudo apt remove libreoffice-style-elementary ' .04:53
OerHeksu_u, just remove the lines in update/sources, as it never installed any package, so you are safe04:53
u_u@OerHeks: oops. so how do i remove it04:53
ragnarock_2Okay they're done installing!04:54
ragnarock_2@ tatertots04:54
tatertotsragnarock_2: in terminal>      inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit04:54
OERIASBashing-om, I do have libreoffice04:54
tatertotsragnarock_2: press enter, then share the url/link here04:54
OERIASI am currently using it to write a paper04:55
ragnarock_2What do those flags mean?04:55
ragnarock_2Just curious :p04:55
tatertotsragnarock_2: it's c then the number 0 NOT the letter O04:55
tatertotsragnarock_2: man inxi04:55
tatertotsragnarock_2: type ^^ the above if you need to be educated on it04:56
tatertotsragnarock_2: otherwise just do as i say04:56
ragnarock_2http://paste.ubuntu.com/24062846/04:56
Bashing-omOERIAS: Well the plot thickins as " libreoffice: >> Installed: (none) " dpkg does not think so .04:56
tatertotsragnarock_2: in terminal>     id|pastebinit04:57
tatertotsragnarock_2: press enter, then share the url/link here04:57
ragnarock_2http://paste.ubuntu.com/24062853/04:58
ragnarock_2I just read the paste. I think it might help if I ran that as a normal user hahaha04:59
tatertotsragnarock_2: first of all...you shouldn't be casually using root....the first instruction was botched because you were using root, i'm not trying to tell you how to run your system, i'm telling you inxi is NOT to be run as root04:59
ragnarock_2I should've known better. Sorry D:05:00
tatertotsragnarock_2: no worries...new users commonly go out of their way to log in as root........for some strange reason05:00
ragnarock_2I'm not exactly new, just incredibly clumsy :p05:01
ragnarock_2Well, actually I'm very new to Ubuntu. I normally run Arch or Mint :)05:01
tatertotsragnarock_2: your inxi doesn't show "advanced" data about graphics because you were root..and that's kinda what this was all about "graphics"05:01
OERIASI tried something new let me reboot to report the results05:02
ragnarock_2Anyway let me get you the right data lmao05:02
ragnarock_2http://paste.ubuntu.com/24062871/05:03
tatertotsragnarock_2: much better05:04
ragnarock_2My biggest problem is that I only seem to have one resolution, 1600x1200. I had 1920x1080 just days ago before I ran do release-upgrade05:04
tatertotsragnarock_2: in terminal>      xrandr|pastebinit05:04
ragnarock_2And I'm tempted to reinstall whatever the ATI drivers are, though truth be told I haven't the slightestclue about that :p05:05
tatertotsragnarock_2: share url/link here05:05
ragnarock_2http://paste.ubuntu.com/24062876/05:05
tatertotsragnarock_2: sounds like you were using fglrx before (its no longer supported or available in ubuntu > 14.x)05:06
ragnarock_2Ahh05:07
tatertotsragnarock_2: now you have the kernel supplied driver and from what i can see http://paste.ubuntu.com/24062876/  that's the only resolution you'll get05:07
ragnarock_2Aw man :/05:08
tatertotsragnarock_2: there's a couple other things we can check though...so hold up05:08
OerHeksfglrx is available in 14.04 .. sudo ubuntu-drivers list05:08
ragnarock_2Is that so? :)05:08
tatertotsragnarock_2: in terminal>      ubuntu-drivers list|pastebinit05:09
ragnarock_2Doesn't look like ubuntu-drivers is a command :/05:09
tatertotsragnarock_2: in terminal>       cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|pastebinit05:09
ragnarock_2"Command not found" . Doesn't even suggest a package that may have it.05:10
OerHeksubuntu-drivers list # can take a minute...05:10
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ragnarock_2http://paste.ubuntu.com/24063005/05:11
tatertotsragnarock_2: most things i'm telling you result in you posting a url/link in the chat room....try to keep up05:11
ragnarock_2Sorry haha05:11
tatertotsragnarock_2: in terminal>       cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep EE|pastebinit05:12
ragnarock_2http://paste.ubuntu.com/24063013/05:12
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tatertotsragnarock_2: in terminal>       apt list --installed|grep fgl|pastebinit05:14
tatertotsragnarock_2: if you do not get a url/link on that one or an error just say so05:15
ragnarock_2Empty document05:15
tatertotsragnarock_2: i suspected such05:15
ragnarock_2Wow lots of logins right now05:15
tarballhello everyone, I ran checkbox for my system and its report was created in html and "ms excel" files!??!05:15
tatertotsragnarock_2: in terminal>   ubuntu-drivers list|pastebinit05:16
tatertotsragnarock_2: after a second or two should show a url/link....if not just say so05:16
OerHeksubuntu-drivers list # can take a minute...05:16
ragnarock_2ubuntu-drivers command not found. :/05:16
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ragnarock_2Ahhhhh!05:16
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tatertotsragnarock_2: something is wrong....05:17
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ragnarock_2Yeah, that is weird. Explains why "Additional Drivers" didn't start05:17
tatertotsragnarock_2: ubuntu-drivers IS a command that SHOULD be found in a normal installation05:17
OerHeksragnarock_2, odd, there is something fishy here .. 14.04 definitly got ubuntu-drivers05:17
tatertotsragnarock_2: making your installation "abnormal'05:17
OerHekstime to reinstall05:17
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ragnarock_2If it explains anything I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04.5 via do release-upgrade05:18
tatertotsragnarock_2: you also have a failed fglrx in your logs05:18
OerHeksor... tatertots ... is this because it is an ancient ppc????05:18
ragnarock_2and if it really explains anything, yeah... ancient ppc :p05:18
tatertotsragnarock_2: if you really want detailed answers get me a report05:18
ragnarock_2But I'd like to think there's at least a solution, given all was fine before the upgrade05:19
tatertotsragnarock_2: in terminal>     sudo apt install sosreport05:19
* tatertots rolls up his sleeves05:19
tatertotsragnarock_2: let me know when it's done05:20
ragnarock_2while that's installing, thanks for taking your time haha. I'm normally decent at finding this stuff out myself, but PPC's a whole different planet for me haha05:20
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ragnarock_2Setting up sosreport05:21
ragnarock_2done!05:21
tatertotsragnarock_2: in terminal>      sudo sosreport05:21
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tarballI'd run Checkbox about 3,5 hours ago, and I'd seen its html report created. I just saw an "xlsx" version of the report that was accessed 2,5 hours ago, which was not by me..so that's being..hacked?05:22
tatertotsragnarock_2: firstinitial=r    lastname=agnarock205:22
tatertotsragnarock_2: in case you were struggling with that part05:22
tarballor is checkbox creating its report in ms excel format?05:22
ragnarock_2what about case number?05:23
OERIASI tried removing the broken packages via Aptitude05:23
OERIASand it doesn't work05:23
tatertotsragnarock_2: skip case number by pressing enter again05:23
ragnarock_2alright :)05:23
tatertotsragnarock_2: i'm doing this off the record so there is no case number05:23
tatertotsragnarock_2: let it run...let me know when its done05:24
tatertotshey that rhymed...run and done lol05:24
Bashing-omOERIAS: what broken packages ? we still at the transmission/transmission-gtk fiasco ?05:24
ragnarock_2hahaha!05:24
OerHeksppa-trolling ..05:25
OERIASBashing-om, yes05:25
uzjsnmore like 3rd world package manager05:25
OerHekstime to reinstall, OERIAS05:25
tarballI got an xlsx file as Checkbox output05:26
OERIASOerHeks, reinstall ubuntu? I knew this was going to happen05:26
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ragnarock_2It's done tatertots05:26
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OerHeks30 minutes and you are back05:26
tarballwhy am I not getting any help here?05:26
OERIASOerHeks, then I have to reconfigure and crap. man I am going for a long time05:27
ragnarock_2I'd be glad to help tarball, but I've got a wacky predicament of my own :x05:27
Bashing-omOERIAS: Uh Huh ^^ we can fight this dependency issues for hours . or reinstall in a matter of minutes ( with good backups ) .05:28
tarballthank you ragnarock_205:28
tatertotsragnarock_2: in terminal>     sudo chown $USER /tmp/sos*05:28
ragnarock_2done05:28
tarballtoday since I reinstalled ubuntu all sorts of bizarre things happened.05:28
tatertotsragnarock_2: in terminal>     mv /tmp/sos* ~/05:28
tarballand now an xlsx file pops up in my file manager05:28
tatertotsragnarock_2: there is a space after *05:28
ragnarock_2done05:29
tatertotsragnarock_2: look in your home folder for the report files05:29
Bashing-omOERIAS: Mind ya I am willing to fight as long as you are . But be prepared to revert PPAs back to what is in our repo .05:29
tatertotsragnarock_2: confirm they exist05:29
ragnarock_2got sosreport-ragnarock2-20170225052327.tar.xz05:30
ragnarock_2plus the md505:30
tatertotsragnarock_2: upload both files to https://filebin.net/ and share the url/link05:30
ragnarock_2https://filebin.net/9xdr8p0m1pfkm78105:32
ragnarock_2@ tatertots05:33
tatertotsragnarock_2: got it ...standby05:33
ragnarock_2gotcha :)05:33
ragnarock_2What all info does this provide? I'm curious :)05:33
ShmamI am trying to follow this guide: https://github.com/NextThingCo/CHIP-SDK and ran "vagrant up" which worked fine but how do I run "vagrant ssh" in the same shell?05:33
ShmamI don't really know what a shell it05:34
Shmamis*05:34
tatertotsragnarock_2: if you had a support contract... a support engineer may ask you to provide this report to assist in resolving your issues05:34
ragnarock_2Ohhh. Are you one?05:34
tatertotsragnarock_2: let try not to get me banned from this place again okay05:36
ragnarock_2sorry :P05:36
ShmamHello?05:37
ragnarock_2Hello!05:37
ShmamThis is probably pretty basic, how do I run two commands in the same shell?05:37
ragnarock_2At once or one after the othr?05:38
Shmamone after other05:38
ragnarock_2command1 ; command205:38
ShmamI need to run "vagrant run" then "vagrant ssh"05:38
Shmamin the same shell05:38
ShmamIf I run vagrant up, I can't do anything else in the terminal window05:39
ragnarock_2If it helps you can put & after a command so that you can keep putting in commands05:39
pavlosShmam, maybe you can ask in the #vagrant channel05:40
ragnarock_2But don't close the terminal if you do that. The program's attached to it :P05:40
OerHeksShmam, you might want to reask in #vagrant as well05:40
Shmamok asking in #vagrant05:40
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tatertotsragnarock_2: this is all the x drivers installed on your system https://gist.github.com/dead9a7cf0e5825e983e80869535b09905:41
tatertotsragnarock_2: i did not find fglrx05:41
tatertotsragnarock_2: which is the proprietary driver05:41
OERIASMan I have to copy the files to the drive05:41
ragnarock_2ahhh I see05:42
OerHekshttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?arch=powerpc&keywords=fglrx no fglrx for ppc05:42
tatertotsragnarock_2: your xserver however tried to load fglrx but it failed as you can see here http://paste.ubuntu.com/24063013/05:42
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ragnarock_2Oh, I see05:43
Shmamtheres nobody in #vagrant05:43
ShmamI just need to run "vagrant up" and then wait for ssh server to start then run "vagrant ssh" in the same shell05:44
Bashing-omtatertots: ragnarock_2 What kernel are you working with ' uname -r ' .05:44
Shmamhow do I do that?05:44
ragnarock_23.2.0-23-powerpc-smp05:44
jnprhello folks05:45
jnpri'm having a slight difficulty connecting a bluetooth keyboard to my computer05:46
jnprit connects and pairs, but shows up as an unknown device05:46
tatertotsBashing-om: info including kernel is shown here http://paste.ubuntu.com/24062871/05:46
ragnarock_2Hm wait. I remembered one little detail that may or may not explain anything05:46
Bashing-omragnarock_2:  well so much for my thought , that kernel should have FGLRX support .05:47
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kang0(kang0) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BSN4UY/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=105:48
kang0Can someone explain me this?05:48
kang0Use case05:48
tarballI got an xlsx file as Checkbox output05:48
ragnarock_2Hm, I'm having a weird thought. Could the kernel have been replaced with another 3.2.0-23-powerpc-smp during "do release-upgrade" ?05:48
ragnarock_2I'm asking because with this old hunk of junk, there's a really weird way to boot into Linux.05:49
tatertotsragnarock_2: would you like to know that...i can find out05:49
tatertotsragnarock_2: standby05:49
Bashing-omtatertots: I do not know powerpc .. but a 3.2 kernel for a trusty install ???05:49
ragnarock_2Which involves being booted into Mac OS 9 first, then loading a kernel file and initrd separately05:49
Bashing-om!info linux-image-generic trusty05:50
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13.0.110.118 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 30 kB05:50
ragnarock_2And since Mac OS can't read ext I have to copy the kernel and initrd manually.05:50
tatertotsragnarock_2: this is all your grub2 shows right now  https://gist.github.com/0ae4a821d6c1ce17894b7fa7feae000005:51
ragnarock_2Oh... I can't use grub to boot :P05:51
ragnarock_2Though maybe some of that info's relevant.05:51
tarballis this ubuntu help channel? I say I found an xlsx file right in the middle of my system05:51
ragnarock_2I use this little thing called BootX05:51
tarballand this file is Checkbox tool report05:52
tatertotsragnarock_2: wouldn't do you much good anyway since there'd only be what you have now as an option05:52
tarballdoes ubuntu produce reports in ms excel format?05:52
tatertotsragnarock_2: you had fglrx prior to the upgrade05:53
tatertotsragnarock_2: after the upgrade you were left with kernel supplied driver which limited your resolution choices to http://paste.ubuntu.com/24062876/ that being said you can install from scratch your desired ubuntu version, keep what you have right now, or go back to what you had previously (as far as ubuntu version is concerned)...balls in your court05:55
ragnarock_2I see I see...05:55
ragnarock_2Think I could gamble with the open source driver?05:55
ragnarock_2Referring to this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD05:56
tatertotsragnarock_2: do you have a printer?05:57
ragnarock_2Not attached to this thing, no05:58
tatertotsragnarock_2: ok05:59
ragnarock_2There is a Kodak AIO Hero in my home network I could possibly access via LPD05:59
ragnarock_2But, I have no clue how to do that :/05:59
tatertotsragnarock_2: my concern is that "ubuntu-drivers" does not exist for you. which is the ideal way that you would normally discover proprietary drivers06:00
tatertotsragnarock_2: you can try a manual strategy however YMMV06:00
ragnarock_2YMMV?06:01
tatertotsragnarock_2: Your Mileage May Vary ......from what you see other users experience06:01
tatertotsragnarock_2: Your Mileage May Vary ......from what you see other users experience or from the normal06:02
ragnarock_2I'm not entirely a stranger to manual methods, depending what you mean by manual of course haha.06:02
ragnarock_2I can compile most packages from source as long as there's clear directions, if that's what you're talking about :p06:02
cainertfus06:03
cainehiiii06:03
pavlosShmam, I just created a vagrant up, it imported it into VB and I was able to vagrant ssh to the vm.06:03
caine8o73rt06:05
tocmo0nlordi want to make an empty file can i do touch .htaccess  ?06:07
tarballI repeated the test and and the test report in xlsx file again! since when does ubuntu work with ms office?06:08
Bashing-omtocmo0nlord: Depends; who has access to the directoy that contains .htacces ?06:09
tocmo0nlordi hax root06:09
Bashing-omtocmo0nlord: Care then .. root'n around where root is not needed can have undesired side-effects .06:10
epacI'm trying to setup an initrd for booting a system with a USB nic (r8152). The module is in the right place (best i can tell -- i can modprobe the module from tty2). setting up the modprobe command in the early_command on the preseed appears to not load the module... any suggestions?06:10
tocmo0nlordwill the command work tho?06:10
tocmo0nlordi could nano but im curious to touch06:10
asihey06:12
Bashing-omtocmo0nlord: Most likely - depending on ownership and permissions // there are those situations that the system trys to protect it's self .06:12
pavlostarball, libreoffice can read xlsx06:12
tarballpavlos, I ran Checbox twice, and each time the test report was created in html and xslx formats. this is what I am referring to. ubuntu tool's report is created with ms excel??!06:15
tarballfirst I thought nothing other than something going wrong, but when it was created again in the second run..06:16
pavlostarball, I have not used Checkbox but if the resulting report is in html/xls format, you can view the html via browser or use libreoffice to view the xls file.06:18
tarballpavlos, the point is why it is in xslx format?06:21
tarballDoes ubuntu contain ms office?06:21
pavlostarball, libreoffice and librecalc06:22
tarballor libre office?06:22
tarballpavlos, then how come the system testing tool of ubuntu created the report output as xlsx file?06:23
pavlostarball, b/c if you double click it, it probably opens libre calc to view the results06:24
tarballpavlos, certainly it opens libre office, as ubuntu does not run ms office. but how/why is the output xlsx?06:25
pavlostarball, libreoffice (writer, calc, impress) is equivalent to MSoffice (word, excel, powerpoint).06:27
tarballpavlos, am I not able to make the point clear?06:28
pavlostarball, no ... checkbox gives you output files in various formats, one of them is xls. So, use libre calc to view it06:29
AurorasauraWhat does vi stand for ?06:29
tarballpavlos, of all free formats why does ubuntu choose primarily xls -a windows format- to produce its output? am I using windows or ubuntu?06:30
epacAurorasaura: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vi - it stands for the shortest ex command to get into visual mode.06:30
Aurorasauralike sudo vi /etc/whatever06:30
SwedeMikeAurorasaura: "It was not until version 2.0 of ex, released as part of Second Berkeley Software Distribution[4] in May, 1979 that the editor was installed under the name "vi" (which took users straight into ex's visual mode), and the name by which it is known today. "06:30
AurorasauraThank you epac06:31
pavlostarball, interoperability ... be able to view/edit files either from libreoffice or msoffice06:32
tarballinteroperability is not about using proprietary format instead of the free format in your hand.06:33
AurorasauraJust wanted to verify that in Ubuntu server changing the /etc/passwd file for a user from /bin/bash to bin/false removes only the ability to log in to the server interface06:33
tarballI cant make sense of your argumentation, pavlos06:33
tarballlet's all use windows formats, then..let's use .exe, .bat, .dll..why dont we do? let's close the FOSS shop06:34
tarballthen maybe Redmond shows a big interest in developing ubuntu further06:34
pavlostarball, libreoffice writes odt files but also has the ability to read/write excel files. Nothing to do with exe, bat, or dll06:35
epacanyone has a clue about debian-installer and when/where i can load drivers?06:36
pavlostarball, since I cannot explain better, I hope someone else will ...06:36
tarballsure I will bring this up in a wider sense06:36
uzjsnxlsx format was designed in 200606:38
tarballso what?06:38
tarballit's ms06:38
uzjsnods format was designed in 199406:38
uzjsnfor a windows 3.1 application called StarOffice06:38
uzjsnit is clear which one is superior06:39
tarballthe point is xls is ms excel, which a FOSS system is not supposed to produce its documents with06:39
tarballlet's adopt all the "superior" stuff from windows then06:39
tarballlet's make it SOSS..superior open source software06:40
tarballsuperior as in superior speech06:40
epactarball: to a certain extent the format has been reversed engineered, so a FOSS system could. that being said, it doesn't help the argument to keep things "Free(TM)/Libre" in the long run, but it does help with interoperability.06:40
epacneither one is "superior" to the other, without proper context. Superior at what?06:41
uzjsnxls format was documented in 200106:41
tarballI didnt say superior06:41
tarballI quoted06:41
uzjsnand it is trivial to implement06:41
uzjsnunlike ODS which requires XML and ZIP06:41
epactarball: that was more aimed at uzjsn...06:42
tarballepac, yes I see06:42
epacwell, Zip is patented...06:42
epacso technically, not "free".06:42
tarballthe logic of such adoption is flawed06:44
tarballand adoption this way is even worse, when you have options. that shows you don't care.06:45
tepashola06:47
lotuspsychje!es | tepas06:47
ubottutepas: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.06:47
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pavlosAurorasaura, re /bin/false, that is correct, no shell will be provided hence no login06:57
eightfoldhi there07:13
eightfoldi wonder where gedit saves its backup files07:14
eightfoldi had the backup feature enabled07:14
eightfoldand laptop battery died07:14
eightfoldi wonder where the unsaved documents go...07:14
lotuspsychjeeightfold: perhaps have a look in the /home with unhidden folders? or /tmp?07:16
eightfoldhmm...07:16
eightfoldlooking here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/243768/where-can-i-find-gedits-backup-files-and-how-to-open-them07:16
eightfoldit says nothing about backing up the UNSAVED documents...07:17
eightfoldfffuuuuu07:17
eightfold"I have run a couple of tests [for my own sanity] and it appears as if the autosave feature only works when you are working on a previously saved file."07:18
eightfoldhow incredibly worthless. well, looking for another text editor...07:18
eightfoldhttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/1483707:19
mcrteightfold: maybe file a bug report, so they can improve :)07:19
eightfoldyeah, good idea07:19
epaceightfold: check out atom (atom.io) -- it might have something about unsaved files...07:21
epac(thought it might be an additional addon)07:22
eightfoldepac: isn't that the text editor that tracked your usage with google analytics?07:23
epacdoes it?07:24
epachmm07:24
* epac thinks it's time to dig more into this...07:24
epaci don't know -- i'll have to check07:24
eightfoldhttps://github.com/atom/metrics07:24
eightfoldyes it wwas07:24
eightfoldcan be turned off it seems07:25
epacindeed.07:25
epacjust found the page on github with the details on that.07:25
epacthank you for making me aware of this...07:25
mcrteightfold:07:25
mcrtDescription bi2h5da02 2007-10-10 18:07:53 UTC07:25
mcrtwoops07:26
* epac is going through and disabling that everywhere now...07:26
mcrteightfold: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68297707:26
ubottuGnome bug 682977 in general "Save drafts of all edited work" [Enhancement,Unconfirmed]07:26
mcrteightfold: seems like this has been an issue for a while... (bug from 2012)07:27
eightfoldhttps://github.com/dsoprea/GeditSafetySave07:29
eightfoldthanks!07:29
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degeneratehey having some problems getting my radeon r7 370 to work on ubuntu i couldnt get it to  work on 16.x  so im running 14.04  now tryin to see if it will work any better07:31
degenerate graphics/driver_version FAILED ERROR: No video driver loaded! Possibly in failsafe mode! ------------- VIDEO DRIVER INFORMATION ------------- ------------- HYBRID GRAPHICS CHECK ---------------- Graphics Chipset: AMD (1002:6811) Loaded DDX Drivers: ati, radeon, modesetting, fbdev, vesa Hybrid Graphics: no07:31
degeneratei got that in my system testing07:31
degenerateand Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.8, 256 bits)   in my pc info07:32
degeneratei can see fglrx  proprietary driver and fglfx-updates   but when i click on one and hit apply chances it starts then stops and reverts back to Advanced Micro Devices Inc    Using X.org X server   AMD/ATI Displayu wrapper from xserver-xorg07:34
lotuspsychjedegenerate: you tested this on updated systems? aka 14.04.5 and 16.04.2?07:35
Bashing-omdegenerate: Dependent on the kernel. what kernel are you running in 14.04 ' uname -r ' ?07:35
degeneratedegenerate@degenerate-Alienware-X51-R3:~$ uname -r07:36
degenerate4.4.0-64-generic07:36
lotuspsychje!info linux-image-generic trusty07:36
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13.0.110.118 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 30 kB07:36
degeneratelotuspsychje,    i couldnt find any help in 16.10  thats what i tried07:40
Bashing-omdegenerate: No FGLRX for you '' too mew of a kernel . If ya want/need FGLRX it is either downgrade the X stack to 3.13 or clean install 14.04.1 .07:40
degeneratelol07:40
degeneratethis is becoming such a headache07:41
degenerateall i wanted to do was try steam csgo on my alienware desktop07:41
lord-ragnarock(ragnarock_2 via laptop) I just did sudo apt-get install linux-powerpc-smp, which supposedly downloaded the latest kernel (3.16 I think?), but I can't seem to find it in my /boot folder, just good old 3.2 ;/ Where does apt store this stuff?07:41
degenerateive tried 3 diffrent ubuntus and fresh installed maybe 7 times already ....   so 14.04.01   u think will handle it?07:42
Bashing-omdegenerate: AMD is in the midst of giving us what we asked for . there are growing pains .07:42
epacwhy is there a set of efi signed kernels in the dists folders for Xenial, but not matching updates for the initrd.gz for netbooting with?07:42
alkisgepac: initrd is generated, not shipped07:43
alkisgWith update-initramfs07:44
degenerateBashing-om,    http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.1/  64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop image   correct?07:44
Bashing-omdegenerate: Yes on 14.04.1 .. The last to support FGLRX is the 3.13 series kernels .07:44
degenerateill download burn and give it a shot thanks for your help07:44
lotuspsychjedegenerate: but then also be carefull with a (not updated) system07:44
degeneratewell i mean what other option do i have    install windows or buy another graphics card07:45
Bashing-omdegenerate: ^^ make sure you do not opt in for HWE, as then you are back in no support for a proprietary driver .07:46
Bashing-om!hwe | degenerate07:46
ubottudegenerate: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack07:46
lotuspsychjedegenerate: you can also hang at #gamingonlinux where they know alot of workarounds07:46
degeneratelotuspsychje,   thanks ill ask in there07:47
darkzekA external drive is not showing up at all, I have tried 2 cables so far neither of them work. Output of "sudo  lshw -C disk": http://pastebin.com/Q3k3TjE107:50
lotuspsychjedarkzek: what happens if you tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin?07:51
lotuspsychjedarkzek: what brand of hd? usb3 ?07:51
mcrthow come ati is lagging so badly with their drivers?07:53
alkisgdarkzek: `udevadm monitor` shows usb events, connections and disconnections etc. Have it running while trying to connect the disk. Also, if the disk requires more power than your usb port offers (and you hear clinging sounds), use a usb hub which might give more power, or a Y cable with 2 USB connections to 107:53
darkzekA old usb one, dont know what version though07:54
darkzektail -f /var/log/syslog returns "http://pastebin.com/LMNvG41N"07:55
lotuspsychjemcrt: join #ubuntu-discuss for topics on matters like that07:55
mcrtlotuspsychje: thanks07:55
mcrts/ati/amd :P07:55
darkzekalkisg just tried that and nothing came up, the leds light up but no sounds or anything. Must just be dead07:56
darkzekThanks for trying :)07:57
lotuspsychjedarkzek: doesnt seem like usefull usb errors07:57
alkisgdarkzek: try in another port with more power first07:58
lotuspsychjealkisg: +1 good idea07:58
alkisgdarkzek: it's very common for disks to need 700 mh and usb ports to provide only 500 ma07:58
alkisgThat's why the Y cables exist07:58
alkisgAnd some usb hubs provide 1000 ma,07:59
alkisgso if you have one that is externally powered, try putting it between the disk and the pc07:59
darkzekI dont have any usb hubs or anything like that, I tried on my case's usb and my extra usb extention card and neither of them work.08:01
metaresolveHi. I learned psql on a VPS that I rent. I'm now working with sensitive information and want to run a virtual box on my windows machine so i can access ubuntu and psql08:01
darkzekStill nothing work08:01
metaresolvebut i'm having problems installing the virtualbox. can someone help? or suggest how I might access psql?08:01
Ben64metaresolve: for windows help, go to ##windows08:01
alkisgdarkzek: try putting it to an internal sata connection then08:02
OERIASback08:02
theparadoxer02how to toogle between two tabs of terminal ?08:02
ducassetheparadoxer02: depends on the terminal08:03
theparadoxer02i am using default terminal08:03
Bashing-omOERIAS: Back with good news ? - I am about to close this session and go to bed .08:04
OERIASI reinstalled08:04
OERIASJust did a simple back up08:04
Bashing-omOERIAS: Good deal .. all the better now ?08:05
OERIASyes, just default ubuntu sucks08:06
Bashing-omOERIAS: Though I can use unity, I am not a fan . There are many othe DEs .08:08
Apachezanyone in here experienced input/output errors when libreoffice 5.2.2.2 (the one included in ubuntu 16.10) is about to open/save files on network shares? any workaround or fix for this?08:08
shady_good day all08:10
OERIASthemes Bashing-om08:10
shady_every time I run software updater I receive the coming error(W:GPG error: https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/16.10/main yakkety InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 611B903CAB97EA77, E:The repository 'https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/16.10/main yakkety InRelease' is not signed.)08:11
Bashing-om!themes | OERIAS Seen these ?08:12
ubottuOERIAS Seen these ?: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy08:12
CombuderBobI want to mount an EncFS folder in /mnt/My_Files by pre-creating a folder and chown'ing it. Are there any security/stability issues compared to mounting it as a folder in my Home folder?08:24
alkisgAfter you mount it, verify that others cannot access it; it's not guaranteed to take the mode of the My_Files folder08:25
alkisgIt takes the mode of the mounting options08:26
alkisgSo if /home/username is 700, and /home/username/my_files is 755, others cannot see it; but if /mnt/my_files is 755, they'll be able to see it08:26
CombuderBobOk, that seems reasonable.08:28
CombuderBobBy the way, I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around permissions in general. When we talk about others in Linux does that mean other users on the computer/network if shared or more towards other applications not run from my user? Actually, more like: Know any good guides?08:30
lotuspsychje!chmod | CombuderBob08:30
ubottuCombuderBob: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions08:30
CombuderBobNice!08:30
CombuderBobOk, I think I've got it now. I've done it before but only following guides without actually understanding what I've done. I've composed a string of commands, could you verify or point out errors please? :)08:44
CombuderBobsudo mkdir /mnt/Files -> sudo chown bob /mnt/Files -> chmod u=rxw /mnt/Files -> chmod o-rwx /mnt/Files08:44
Ben64CombuderBob: why not just chmod 750 /mnt/Files08:47
CombuderBobBen64: Because I followed the guides example of using letters instead of numbers. ^^ Basically I'd like to verify that my example would do the same so I know I actually understand what I'm doing and not rely on irc support or internet searches. :)08:50
mahakalHello Guys, running command "sudo fdisk -l " is showing some suspicious behavious08:53
mahakalHave a look :  http://termbin.com/txcv08:53
mahakalThis is the output of "mount" command : http://termbin.com/q3qw08:55
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mcrtmahakal: probably will not cause too much trouble09:03
mcrtmahakal: might cause some performance issues though. if possible re-create the partition with something else than fdisk09:04
garybotHey can I ask a question regarding building android apps in ubuntu??09:05
garybotI want to know how to build the apk after making changes.. i'm using android-sdk..09:06
mcrtmahakal: (the partion should start at sector 2048 instead of 63)09:07
mcrtpartition*09:07
Apachezso Im the only one with a libreoffice who doesnt want to open nor save files on network shares? :S09:07
mcrtApachez: how come?09:08
Apachezmcrt: ?09:08
Apachezgedit can open the file (and save)09:08
Apachezbut libre just whines about "file not found" but its obviously there09:09
mcrtah. no clue, sorry... maybe somebody else can help.09:09
mahakalmcrt: i did not make any change to hard disk file system.But i am expermenting with a 16gb pendrive.for your convenice i want to inform you that when these commands were run,all usb ports were in use :one having 16gb pendrive,2nd having android tablet connected via usb  the third is kyebord receiver09:10
mahakalThough i updated grub 2 day ago which was granted permission to /dev/sda as the official askubuntu.com has advised09:11
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mcrtmahakal: probably nothing to do with the usb stuff. if everything works ok, you can just ignore that warning :)09:13
mahakalmcrt: yup everything is ok09:13
mahakalmcrt: my real problem is that09:13
isky897hi09:13
isky897I am trying to install ubuntu but I get the message: Force UEFI Installation? This machines's firmware has started this installer in UEFI mode but it looks like there maybe existing operating systems already installed using BIOS compatibility mode, If you continue to install Debian in UEFI mode,it might be difficult to reboot into any BIOS-mode operating system.09:14
isky897and it will not close...09:14
ElectroXexualI have ubuntu 16.04 LTS, I had Unity but I installed xfce alongside it...the file manager in it i.e Thunar keeps crashing...is it a bug?..or something else is causing it?09:14
isky897I cant go  forward or backward in the installation09:14
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Serdarhi all09:15
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SerdarI have an SSD here which suddenlz shows just 8M instead of 256G09:15
Serdaralso fdisk sazs 8M09:15
mahakalmcrt: while experimenting  with gparted..i make partition on my usb with ext4 as file system.Now when i tried to use that usb on Guest mode it says pemission denied09:15
garybot@isky i think you got to change to legacy mode09:15
isky897chkdsk?09:16
elias_aIs it possible to change the default save location of print to file in 16.04?09:16
alkisgisky897: what's the output of this command? sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999909:16
Serdarthere is no such a tool like chkdsk09:16
isky897@alkisg I dont have aterminal in installation mode09:16
garybotchkdsk is a windows tool09:16
isky897@garybot I tried to do that on bios and it seems ok09:17
alkisgisky897: press alt+ctrl+f1 to switch to text mode, then run the command, then alt+ctrl+f7 to swtich back to graphiccs mode09:17
elias_aPrint to (pdf) file does not seem to remember the last folder the file was saved into.09:17
isky897garybot I know, but not sure which fs he has, e2fschk I think is the think.09:17
Serdarshould I use wine or what_09:17
isky897thing09:17
isky897not, use a tool for linux sure, but check the disk09:18
garybotoh.. well boot in legacy mode that should solve your problem..09:18
garybotyour trying to dual boot ubuntu and windows i guess..09:18
isky897mabe the partition table is problem, you could put a another one, but i dont know what you did to the disk before09:18
alkisgmahakal: yes, ext4 file systems have permissions, so if you want any user to be able to write to it, either mount it with different permissions, or use another file system09:18
isky897@garybot at some point in the future but not now09:18
isky897the installation also let me choose a password for secure boot09:19
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mahakalalkisg: i have change the owner from root to me many times using sudo chown ..but whenever i reinsert it the owner is set to root agains09:20
alkisgmahakal: how do you set the owner to you? Also, "guest" is not "you", it's another user.09:20
mahakalalkisg: first i use "sudo chown mahakal:mahakal /dev/sde" then i use "sudo chmod 777 /dev/sde"09:22
alkisgmahakal: you're changing the block device, while what you want is to change the permissions of a folder09:22
mahakalAnd guest is "other" ..it should allow other to read write execute09:22
SerdarI am here on a bood usb and need to check the disk, where NTFS was used, so e2fsck can't be used here :(09:22
alkisgmahakal: try this: (1) insert stick, let's say it mounts to /media/username/usbstick  (2) sudo mkdir /media/username/usbstick/my-folder (3) sudo chmod 777 /media/username/usbstick/my-folder09:23
MonkeyDustisky897  you can drop the @ ... simply type two characters of the name, then hit tab09:23
alkisgmahakal: then everyone will be able to write to that folder. But of course *not* to all the stick, but just to that folder.09:23
isky897MonkeyDust: got it thx09:23
mahakalalkisg: ok i will try this and come back..thanks09:24
alkisgnp09:24
mahakalalkisg: but isnt there any way to give 777 permission to the usb stick itself09:25
mahakalbecause i need to use it on my college computers a lot09:25
thibaultmolThere is a problem with the drivers for the gtx 10 series GPU's from nvidia which makes it so that install ubuntu is a pain in the *ss for new users. When are they planning on fixing that in the kernel?09:25
thibaultmolhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/795547/ubuntu-16-04-unable-to-boot-with-gtx-108009:25
alkisgmahakal: you can put it to /etc/fstab, or you can specify udev rules for it. The default mounts options for usb sticks are not changed with chmod or chown.09:26
alkisgmahakal: then use vfat or ntfs, not ext409:26
mahakalalkisg: before i changed it ..it was using fat32 file system09:27
alkisgFormat it back to fat32 then, it appears that's what suits you better09:27
alkisgSerdar: if `parted -l` and `fdisk` show 8 mb *disk*, then no file system check will do you any good09:27
tatertotsthibaultmol: you are chatting from a computer with a gtx 10xx in it right now?09:28
thibaultmoltatertots: I'm on my windows 10 install right now09:28
mahakalalkisg: ok ,actually i am learning grub and what i want to learn is "Making a multiboot usb",will you suggest any resources to learn this..the internet has information but in very scattered way09:29
thibaultmolit's an easy fix, but for people who are new to ubuntu and want to try it out, they're going to give up easily if they can't even get passed the installer09:29
alkisgmahakal: use some of the existing tools like rufus or easy2boot etc, those will tell you to use fat or ntfs3209:30
alkisg*fat or ntfs09:30
mahakalalkisg: however is it possible to make a multiboot usb ?09:30
alkisgmahakal: yes, i have one with 10 distros live cds and windows and a linux installation09:32
MonkeyDustmahakal  https://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/09:32
mahakalalkisg: you are awesome .I wanna do that ,if you write any personal blog..please please please tell me that09:33
mahakalMonkeyDust: very thanks09:33
mahakalalkisg: i have formatted the pd to fat32 using gparted but which flag to set now ?09:34
alkisgmahakal: I'm not going to write a how-to in irc... use one of the tools, they'll format the stick for you09:35
mahakalalkisg: i know that thats why  i asked about blog ..LOL09:36
mahakalalkisg: which flag to set or unset all ?09:36
alkisgNo, I haven't written a blog about how to make a multiboot stick09:36
alkisgmahakal: don't format it, use a tool09:37
alkisgThey will ask you things like "what os do you want?" and set the proper flags for it09:37
isky897alkisg: my partition table is ok, I put everything there, I have some experience with linux, not with ufi and secure boot09:38
mahakalalkisg: currently i want to use usb for general stuff like movies,text.pics etc09:38
alkisgmahakal: then no flags are needed09:38
alkisgisky897: from your partitions we'll be able to see if your system is using uefi or not09:39
ducasseisky897: what does 'ls /sys/firmware/efi' say?09:40
isky897the installation requested a EFI partition table at some point, so I am creating one every attempt, but else what would point to UFI?09:40
alkisgducasse: he's booted in uefi mode from the live cd, but the question is if his hard disk was using uefi or not09:40
ducassealkisg: ok09:41
alkisgisky897: does the disk have any data in it, or not?09:41
isky897or brand new09:41
alkisgIf not, you can just reformat it in gpt mode, and be done with it09:41
isky897no09:41
isky897gpt mode?09:42
alkisgIt's the partition table for uefi systems09:42
isky897i boot from usb, in legacy mode apparently09:42
alkisgDidn't you say that the installer reported that you are in uefi mode?09:42
isky897i deleted my secure key from bios, so maybe it will work now09:42
alkisgAnd that your disk was in legacy mode?09:43
mahakalalkisg: is there any book on linux booting that touch every details,dangers,best practice for linux booting stuff09:43
alkisgmahakal: I don't know09:44
alkisgisky897: you reported this message: "This machines's firmware has started this installer in UEFI mode but it looks like there maybe existing operating systems already installed using BIOS compatibility mode, If you continue to install Debian in UEFI mode,it might be difficult to reboot into any BIOS-mode operating system."09:44
alkisgThat sounds like you booted in uefi mode and your disk is mbr09:44
isky897ok09:45
gdarkoHello, i mounted old NTFS drive whenre i store backup data and i noticed some leftovers from the previous windows install in it like "$RECYCLE BIN" (or something like that) while also had "Archive" direcotry  where all the backups were stored (in the same directory). i tried to remove it using the following command rm -rf "$RECYCLE BIN" and it removed "Archive" too!09:45
gdarkoHell.09:45
lotuspsychjegdarko: scan the whole drive with photorec to recover data09:45
isky897i did not boot from these disk but from usb09:45
isky897I am trying to install from usb09:45
isky897not os installed previously09:45
isky897none09:45
alkisgisky897: can you run terminal commands now?09:46
isky897yes09:46
gdarkolotuspsychje: i am already doing this with "undelete" - ubuntu tool i googled09:46
isky897I chose try it out first09:46
isky897on boot time09:46
gdarkolotuspsychje: it was already installed, so i guess it is prepacked.09:46
alkisgOK, start with this: (ls /sys/firmware/efi; sudo parted -l) | nc termbin.com 999909:46
gdarkolotuspsychje: but the directory structure is gone.09:46
isky897parted does not show anything useful, firmware seems to be there09:46
lotuspsychjerm -rf can be danger indeed09:47
isky897http://termbin.com/38tw09:48
alkisggdarko:$ echo "$RECYCLE BIN" ==>  BIN. This is because $RECYCLE is an empty variable09:48
isky897see nothing unusual...09:48
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alkisggdarko: you should have used '$RECYCLE BIN' instead, not ""09:48
gdarkoCrap. One mistake, i lost part of my life.09:49
alkisgisky897: nice, so when you go on with the installer now, tell it to format the whole disk in uefi (gpt) mode09:49
mahakalalkisg: i have set password on my BIOS .Will it have any impact on my dual or muliboot plans09:50
alkisgmahakal: no09:50
lotuspsychje!info testdisk | gdarko i use photorec to recover09:50
ubottugdarko i use photorec to recover: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool, and PhotoRec file recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.0-1build1 (yakkety), package size 355 kB, installed size 1405 kB09:50
isky897ahh, the usb disk may be corrupt....09:51
isky897fuck it...09:51
lotuspsychje!language | isky89709:51
ubottuisky897: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList09:51
isky897sry, wasted 1 h on that ...09:52
mahakalalkisg: i also want to remove password.web says that the only way to do this is to remove BIOS and let capacitors discharge.Since doing that on laptop can be risky,IS there any other way?09:52
ducassemahakal: ask in ##hardware09:54
backboxhI09:59
garybothey09:59
backboxI need help ...09:59
lotuspsychje!ask | backbox09:59
ubottubackbox: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:00
backboxmxm10:00
backboxI want to install fortaran 77 on fedora, I don't know how to do it. Can anyone give me a side where I can download it and install it on my pc.10:03
ducassebackbox: we don't support fedora, for some reason...10:03
backboxPlease guys...10:03
gdarkoAny other software that will preserve the directories? undelete from ubuntu doesn't do that10:04
lotuspsychjebackbox: you also could try the fedora channel perhaps10:04
ducassebackbox: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=install+fortran77+on+fedora10:04
elias_aOh, come on... it has even a different packet manager.10:04
alkisg!backbox10:04
ubottuBackbox Linux is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu and is thus not supported in #ubuntu. Please use #backbox on irc.autistici.org or https://forum.backbox.org/ for help with it.10:04
alkisgI'm using backbox and I want to install fortran on fedora and I'm asking for help in #ubuntu. Cool!10:04
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elias_aalkisg: I want to fix hydropneumatic suspension of Citroen so I ask about it on a Toyota forum!10:06
backboxFuck nerds!10:06
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Apachez"Microsoft Office Ribbon UI Is Coming to LibreOffice" NOOOooooo...10:08
lotuspsychje!discuss | Apachez10:08
ubottuApachez: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!10:08
isky897ok seems to work with the new copy....10:09
Apachez!discuss lotuspsychje10:09
Apachezlotuspsychje: I asked an ubuntu related question earlier but noone in here seemed to be able to help10:09
lotuspsychjeApachez: doesnt mean your second have to be an offtopic matter10:10
lotuspsychjeApachez: best way to get your issue solved is ro re-ask once in a while also10:10
elias_aApachez: Ask again!10:10
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deathSongS10:14
deathSongH10:14
deathSongHelp10:14
deathSongLol10:14
MonkeyDustoops, that was one 'yes' too many10:15
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deathSongBb10:17
anddamis there a way to check a package build file from web?10:19
anddamnamely I want to check if mldonkey-server is built with --enable-upnp-natpmp10:20
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anddamseems the options is there in settings, so the server should have been built with the support, but then starting the server and listing redirections doesn't show anything new10:25
peilotHello!10:25
peilotbump10:26
peilotanyone here?10:27
ducasseonly >1600 people10:27
RichardVikingHello10:28
RichardVikingsup all?10:28
peilotpretty quiet for over 1600 people10:28
RichardVikingdamn10:28
peilotit's good thanks10:28
RichardVikingwhere u from?10:28
peilotSweden10:28
peilotYou?10:29
RichardVikingMe Estonia10:29
Apachezso Im the only one with a libreoffice who doesnt want to open nor save files on network shares? :S10:29
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peilotis everyone idle?10:32
alkisg!ask10:32
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience10:32
anddamlikely people in the americas are sleeping still10:32
anddamhow can I get the output of a daemon started as service from a systemd unit?10:32
anddamjournalctl-something?10:32
anddamI need to check the output of mldonke-server in order to check if it prints something about this upnp support10:33
ducasseanddam: journalctl, yes, or systemctl status for quick summary10:33
anddamducasse: I need full output, if available10:34
untorehjournalctl -u servicename10:34
anddamI have the option in mlgui, but I figure it's just because it's in the config file10:34
anddamand an option in the config file doesn't mean there's support for that feature10:34
anddamI'm monitoring the router with upnpc and I see no new redirects when the server starts10:35
anddamme no-likey10:35
anddamuntoreh: that -u only prints systemd Starting LSB and Stopping LSB messages10:35
anddamno, just a single entry from the actual process: "Starting MLDOneky: mlnet." and the corresponding Stopping10:36
anddamnot very useful10:36
anddammaybe I need to add some verbose flag to the unit file10:36
anddamIIRC the package on debian didn't had the flag, I rebuilt my own10:37
* anddam doesn't really like building debs10:37
gdarkoIs this safe command to move files with preserving the timestamp?10:45
gdarkohttps://andrewelkins.com/2015/04/02/move-files-while-preserving-timestamps/10:45
david__guys i have a question someone here have 2 desktop enviroments installed on a ubuntu distro?10:52
alkisgdavid__: yes, but it's better to ask the question directly...10:53
david__alkisg i have ubuntu mate installed with mate desktop but i want to instal KDE10:53
david__this process will brake somthing on the system10:54
alkisgdavid__: and the question is/10:54
alkisgIt's supposed to not break anything10:54
alkisgIn practice, sometimes services and startup applications run on the wrong DE too though10:54
david__the main question is its safe to have multypla desktops?10:54
alkisgThat's considered a bug and you should report it10:54
alkisgSo my answer would be "it _should_ be safe; it it's not, file a bug" :)10:55
david__ok10:57
david__if i find some problems i will come here10:57
BluesKajHiyas all11:00
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pawandubeyNeed some help on cryptsetup here. I used the disk utility to create an encrypted partition with LUKS + ext4. The problem is that cryptsetup does not recognise it as a LUKS partition. This leaves me unable to backup the LUKS header.11:18
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pawandubeyBasically when I run cryptsetup -v isLuks /media/pawandubey/TheCrypt/ it says Command failed with code 15: Block device required11:22
akik_pawandubey: the error message tells you the problem. don't use the mount point with it, but the partition11:26
gaurav42internet not working in wine11:29
pawandubeyakik_ thanks, that solved the issue!11:29
ducasse!wine | gaurav4211:30
ubottugaurav42: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu11:30
gaurav42i install ie 7 in wine but cant connect internet11:33
ducassegaurav42: ask in ##winehq11:34
gaurav42because my companey site works only in internet explorer11:34
ducassegaurav42: #winehq, sorry11:34
gaurav42how to join that site is only for invitable people11:34
llutz!register | gaurav4211:35
ubottugaurav42: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.11:35
llutzgaurav42: registering your nick should do11:35
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Fabio_test12:05
FMansuccess!12:05
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fiterI am trying to install ubuntu alongside with windows but when I boot through usb then I am getting following error usb device not accepting address12:14
fiterwhy this is so ?12:14
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MonkeyDustfiter  does it specify which address?12:16
fiteryes it moves like this address 2612:17
fiteraddress 2812:17
fiteraddress 312:17
fiteraddress 3012:17
fiternot 3 it adress 3012:17
fiterit also says error -6212:17
FManwell, I am downloading the 16.4.2 images now (both desktop releases)12:19
mvvvvfiter, maybe this can help : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1574869/comments/612:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1574869 in linux (Ubuntu) "USB controllers are not recognized (live and install 16.04 Xenial)" [Medium,Expired]12:19
fiterubottu: you mean that 16.04 does not work by making usb stick ?12:21
ubottufiter: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:21
fiterubottu:  I am not thinking of you as an intelligent12:21
ubottufiter: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)12:21
mvvvvfiter, I gave you this link12:22
fitermvvvv:  I enabled xHCI but not able to find the two others12:32
mvvvvfiter, the idea is to check if you don't have something to change about your usb controllers12:34
gdarkowhen i do "mv *.doc Docs" it fails, why?12:39
gdarko"mv: invalid option -- 'P'"12:39
mvvvvgdarko, change Docs to Docs/12:41
fitermvvvv:  its working and now its on third step of installation taking long time at this step.12:43
mvvvvfiter, good and yes it can be long12:44
MonkeyDustmvvvv12:44
MonkeyDustmvvvv  +112:44
fitermay be because I have selected Download updates while installing12:44
mvvvvfiter, yes12:45
riadhhello12:46
gdarkomvvvv: thank you!12:48
CombuderBobI'm testing out irc notifications, can somebody mention my name in a few seconds?12:49
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kk4ewtCombuderBob,12:50
CombuderBobNice, it worked. Thanks! :)12:50
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anonVHi, when i go to files and try to connect to a server as soon as i type smb:// it appears "This file server type is not recognized"12:54
MonkeyDustanonV  try this in your file manager       smb:// [enter]12:57
kk4ewtanonV, fapste --sysinfo please12:58
kk4ewtfpaste -sysinfo please12:59
apurvI need help with "DevHelp"12:59
kk4ewtwhat is DevHelp12:59
apurvthe Gnome https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Devhelp/13:00
jcdI have a problem with the Dash.  When I open, say LibreOffice, the icon correctly shows that I have a doc open.  But, when I open a "terminal" I end up with two "terminal" icons on the dash. Why is that?13:00
mvvvvjcd, are you sure this is the same terminal app ?13:01
jcdIt never used to be a problem. Only now with 16.10 is it a problem13:01
kk4ewtsorry wrong channel13:01
apurvDevHelp is a documentation reference application for GTK Toolkit, developed by Gnome13:02
kk4ewtapurv,  sorry i was thinking a different OS13:03
craptalki am running on ubuntu-gnome 16.04, and my hibernation is not working when i am trying to backup from it13:03
craptalkit leaves blank screen13:03
enrico__ciao13:03
craptalkand i gotta hard restart it13:03
craptalki read from the ubuntu forum, it also happened to them13:03
craptalkis it the OS? and the typical laptops that have this issue also coming from different brand13:04
craptalkdoes the usual ubuntu OS, having the same issue?13:06
mvvvvcraptalk, I believe this is something you can solve by changing the "wake up on" options in your bios13:07
craptalkmvvvv, i am looking into it13:09
craptalkgotta read first13:09
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flux242hi, I've managed to install nvidia drivers on my intel/nvidia notebook. It took time to find a workaround for the nvidia 'black screen after boot' bug and in the end the glmark2 (which also segfaults with nvidia) I got score 350 which means no hw acceleration. Do I need additional tweaks or this is what nvidia offers for my GC which is geforce 610m13:17
flux242the intel scores 1300-150013:18
BluesKaj!qptimus | flux24213:21
BluesKajoptim!us13:21
flux242you were trying to say?13:22
BluesKajI'll try once more13:22
BluesKaj!optimus13:22
ubottuUbuntu uses nvidia-prime to support optimus videocards.13:22
flux242so?13:22
craptalkmvvvv, i did not find wake up setting on my BIOS13:23
BluesKajI see, so we have attiitude , do we,...ok nm ..you can research it yourself, flux24213:24
mvvvvcraptalk, what is your mother board ?13:25
craptalkmvvvv, how to check?13:29
ioriacraptalk, sudo dmidecode -t 213:29
tarballhello, I've recently made a system check with 'Checkbox' tool, and seen that it produces test report in 'xlsx' format. can someone explain to me why this MS Windows format is chosen in a FOSS system?13:30
mvvvvcraptalk, sudo dmidecode -t 213:31
tarballIt was so far from possibility for me that I first thought it was an irrelevant hacked file13:31
bekkstarball: Because the developer of that application chose that format.13:31
tarballbekks, and how can he do so? and why is it enough reason for that format to appear in a FOSS system?13:32
bekkstarball: Thank god he/she lives in country which doesnt tell you which format to choose when developing software.13:32
MonkeyDusttarball  you should ask the developer why he made that choice13:33
craptalkmvvvv, you wanna know product name?13:33
mvvvvor bios name13:33
tarballbekks, what are you defending to me as a volunteer of a supposedly FOSS OS ?13:33
MonkeyDustcraptalk  paste the output here  http://paste.ubuntu.com/13:34
bekkstarball: And since xlsx is an extension Office Open XML SpreadsheetML File Format, I dont see a problem, honestly.13:34
craptalkManufacturer: LENOVO13:34
craptalkProduct Name: Toronto 5B113:34
bekkstarball: And maybe you should drop your attitude, btw.13:34
tarballbekks, what is my "attitude"?13:35
BluesKajit must be the weekend :-)13:36
bekkstarball: Something that I wont read any further. *plonk*13:36
tarballI am discussing with you. or am I discussing 'undiscussable' things in your view?13:36
tarballbekks no surprise13:36
MonkeyDusttarball  it's more 'indiscussable', because we don't know the dev's motives13:36
CombuderBobSafety of passwordless keyring in Seahorse?  Articles says I can but its unsafe as "anybody" can read it. I have encrypted disk and manual login, could somebody elaborate on the security risk?13:36
tarballMonkeyDust should I answer this?13:37
tarballis a FOSS environment determined by that single developer?13:37
craptalkhttp://pastebin.com/BY45E2Lu13:37
dannyLopezHi. o/13:38
craptalkmvvvv, that is my motherboard info13:38
MonkeyDusttarball  take the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic13:38
SemiNushi13:38
mvvvvcraptalk, sorry I can't find bios manual on this product. the option to look after are "wake up on ... keyboard ... lan ...."13:38
tarballand he says above 'office open XML..' not to say MS office..nice13:38
tarballms is too blatant13:38
SemiNusmay I please ask, how to get Java Applets to work in chromium-browser (Chrome)13:38
SemiNusI installed Ubuntu from new yesterday, so it's kind of a fresh install13:38
SemiNusI searched for all that is named "java" in apt-cache but it's too much13:39
SemiNuswhat do I need?13:39
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tarballit is not offtopi13:39
tarballc13:39
tarballI am talking about a piece of software13:39
tarballwhich produces an ms-windows excel format13:40
Guest40666guys i have ubuntu mate on my laptop and i installed the plasma desktop enviroment and i have some issues some windows dont have title bar and bottons to close maximize etc can someone help em with this problem?13:40
MonkeyDusttarball  what's your question, exactly?13:42
BluesKajGuest40666, is plasma-workspace installed ?13:42
Guest40666tarbal the windows excel format its displayed wen you save a file on libre ofice you can select format and extension from that list13:43
Guest40666yes i installed plasma-workspace13:43
tarballhow can an MS Windows Excel format be the choice format for a supposedly FOSS system? MonkeyDust, that's what I ask. there is ods, there is csv, if you have to.13:43
tarballwhat comes next? adobe formats in a -from-out-of-nowhere graphics program?13:44
MonkeyDusttarball  ok, that question is not for this channel ... type   /j #ubuntu-offtopic13:44
bekksxlsx in an extension of the Office Open XML SpreadsheetML File Format, still.13:44
ducassetarball: that is a topic for discussion, not a support question. try #ubuntu-discuss13:44
tarballoffice, but not open or libre office13:44
tarballsee the file specs, it says Microsoft Excel, not open anything13:45
bekksSo take it to #ubuntu-discuss13:45
MonkeyDusttarball  this channel is aimed at 'how to make things work'13:45
Guest40666guys i dont have title bars on windows when i open them on plasma desktopenv13:46
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tarballnot a problem. it is highly indicative for the state of things how some responses came to my question, though..it might have been just that if I'd asked it in a semi-OS app forum13:46
okwahohi everyone13:47
eightfoldi'm kind of freaking out on ubuntu mate here13:47
eightfoldbasic stuff like multi monitors is _not_ working well13:47
eightfoldwill ubuntu or ubuntu gnome handle this betteR?13:47
Guest40666i have 2 monitors installed on ubuntu mate and works verry good13:48
eightfoldGuest40666: i don't know what you did to have that working. but my 1920x1200 monitor is running at 1366x76813:48
eightfoldeven though it says its on 1920x120013:48
tarballthe way you react is even not compatible with FOSS, where the OS is owned by the users, too, who are often contributors in different ways..this channel was different only a few years back. don't think that's overlooked13:49
elias_aeightfold: At least you would get better answers on this channel using Ubuntu. Mate is not in the scope of support here.13:49
eightfoldand when i disconnect the external monitor, the panels do not come back om my laptop display13:49
Guest40666because you need all monitors to be as same resoulution13:49
eightfoldGuest40666: well, that is exactly the kind of desktop environment retardation i'm talking about :)13:50
mernilioGreetings fellow linux friends! :)13:50
tarballwindowsization of ubuntu underway13:50
ouroumov_elias_a, huh, Ubuntu MATE is an official derivative, therefore it is within the scope of support.13:50
mernilioI said hi FELLOW LINUX FRIENDS!13:51
ouroumov_Guest40666, no you don't.13:51
elias_aouroumov_: It has been repeated on this channel again and again that Mate is not supported on this channel.13:51
tarballmernilio, dream on13:51
MonkeyDustmernilio  hi, this is the ubuntu support channel, ask you ubuntu question13:51
mernilioyou can answer me! ..13:51
ouroumov_elias_a, so what, the topic is lying?13:51
mernilioHi MoneyDust13:52
mernilioDont underestimate my power!13:52
mernilioof talking with capitals! :-P13:52
elias_aouroumov_: Perhaps I have got it all wrong. Thanks for correcting!13:53
mernilioim a kick ass dude also .. beside that! :-)13:53
MonkeyDustmernilio  stop13:53
elias_aouroumov_: I have thought Mate is not an official derivative...13:54
ouroumov_elias_a, you're correct that say, if someone installs debian, then MATE on top of it, it's not supported. But Ubuntu MATE is an official derivative since release 15.04 I think.13:54
mernilioI cant stop being a numero uno guy? Thats what i am!13:54
ouroumov_eightfold, maybe try and use xrandr to manually set up your displays.13:55
elias_aouroumov_: Oh - it is such a new thing... no wonder I had wrong impression about that. :)13:55
eightfoldouroumov_: but what happens if i disconnect the external display from the laptop then? do i have to edit that file again?13:56
elias_aeightfold: What is your display setup like?13:56
ouroumov_eightfold, I'm not sure. I've used Ubuntu MATE with multiple displays (up to 3) and I've never had this kind of problems.13:57
mernilioMoneyDad ... in scandinavian mythology Magnus is the god of arms ... you can give your son that name.13:57
elias_aeightfold: Laptop display + the display you talked about?13:57
Guest40666i installed kde plasma desktop and i dont have buttons to close minimize and maximize and title bar how to fix that?13:58
mernilioIts my name so you can rest assure it is a good name! :-)13:58
eightfoldelias_a: x220 at 1366x768 with external display connected via displayport. external monitor is 1920x120013:58
eightfoldthat's it13:58
merniliowe all know  your girlfriend are awainging a child.13:59
ouroumov_ot | mernilio13:59
ouroumov_!ot | mernilio13:59
ubottumernilio: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:59
elias_amernilio: Please take your chitchat elsewhere.13:59
ducasse!patience | Guest4066614:00
ubottuGuest40666: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/14:00
merniliosure ... i could take my chitchat anywhree else... :-)14:00
elias_aeightfold: I have a x201 w displayport but I don't have the cable to test it.14:01
eightfoldelias_a: how are you running now, vga?14:01
elias_aeightfold: I have no external at the moment.14:02
eightfoldok14:02
eightfoldlucky you :)14:02
eightfoldi'm looking at ubuntu gnome14:02
Guest40666i installed kde plasma desktop and i dont have buttons to close minimize and m14:02
eightfoldfor something potentially more mature14:02
Guest40666i installed kde plasma desktop and i dont have buttons to close minimize and m14:02
elias_aeightfold: But I frequently use a projector with VGA and it works ok.14:02
frendaHi14:03
frendaI have compiled a software called geant4 by this instruction: http://geant4.web.cern.ch/geant4/UserDocumentation/UsersGuides/InstallationGuide/html/ch02.html14:03
frendait's told to use 'make install'14:03
frendashouldn't it be 'sudo make install'?14:03
Guest40666guys can someone help me? i ahve an isus on kde plasma desktop i dont have title bars and buttons14:04
ducasseGuest40666: we've heard you, have patience.14:04
bubbalshello14:04
Guest40666ducasse: ok14:04
Mac2698?14:05
eightfoldoh, i give up. it's clear this feature is not mature. when i deactivate the external display and go back to my laptop display, the panels that go outside 1920x120014:05
eightfolddisappear14:05
eightfoldwould it be possible to install gnome3 from ubuntu mate and have it working ok14:07
eightfoldor should i start from scratch?14:07
Lilpenguindoes any one have a the time to help with an ssh question?14:08
Mac2698can anyone help me how to enable VPN in linux?14:08
bekksLilpenguin: That depends on your question, feel free to just ask :)14:08
LilpenguinI'm trying to ssh through a router to to my machine at home14:08
Lilpenguindoing some virtual cloud stuff14:08
bekksLilpenguin: Did you setup your router accordingly?14:09
Lilpenguinbut I'm on my neighbors wifi which he has allowed14:09
Lilpenguinno I have not since it is my niehbors14:09
LilpenguinDo I have to set up forewarding on the actual router?14:09
bekksLilpenguin: So you have a router and a network at home, and your neighbour does. Correct?14:09
llutzLilpenguin: you could establish a reverse ssh-tunnel from your machine at home to the remote site. needs you being at home, once14:09
LilpenguinMy niehbor owns the router14:10
LilpenguinI cannot really ask him to open the ports14:10
LilpenguinI would like 5901 and 2214:10
Lilpenguinfor vnc and ssh14:10
LilpenguinReverse tunnel?14:11
Lilpenguinllutz what does this entail?14:12
llutzLilpenguin: yes, that establishes a connection from your home-machine to your remote-host, which can be used t the way back. Needed if you cannot reach home-machine from WAN14:12
LilpenguinI need to establish a vnc session to the server which is at home14:12
Lilpenguinand I need ssh to to get into that14:13
Lilpenguinto start the vnc server14:13
maxxerhi. I've a XenServer Ubuntu 12.04 VM which is stuck after fsck. I only see filesystems clean but it's stuck there, doing no disk nor network activity...14:13
LilpenguinSOoooooooo14:13
bekksLilpenguin: So you need a remote server, which you can connect to, from being at home.14:13
LilpenguinYa, but I have that, but the cloud is on the bigger desktop14:14
Lilpenguincloud will be on14:14
LilpenguinThe other is a notebook14:14
lukehello14:14
Lilpenguinso the "cloud" is at home14:14
llutzLilpenguin: maybe more clear https://toic.org/blog/2009/reverse-ssh-port-forwarding/14:14
Lilpenguinhello14:14
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Lilpenguinokay I will check it out14:15
llutzLilpenguin: "corporate firewall" in that site-example is "foreign router" for you. the think you don't have full access to14:15
llutzthing*14:16
Lilpenguinit hurts my brain14:17
fiterI am trying to install ubuntu alongside with ubuntu but but there was errors.14:24
fiterI removed the usb stick and again booted from the disk but it is again giving errors.14:25
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Lilpenguinllutz?14:26
fiternot syncing : VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown- block(1,0)14:26
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llutzLilpenguin: yes?14:33
skinuxHow can I get a list of installed applications, excluding libraries?14:33
anddamskinux: dpkg14:34
skinuxWhat is the exact command?14:34
Lilpenguinllutz so I do you know14:34
Lilpenguini need to open a new port to tunnel it back through?14:35
llutzLilpenguin: yes14:35
lernerevery time I play a mkv file, if the screen makes a hard turn left or right, or a panoramic view is showed, and it turns left or right, horizontal lines are seen. Its an eyesore. Is the reason ubuntu related? Notice that this happens with every mkv file I can think of14:41
BluesKajgot ffmpeg ?14:43
Lilpenguinllutz it is saying port 2210 is a bad forwarding spec14:43
llutzLilpenguin: typo, most likely. whats the exact command, you typed?14:44
Lilpenguinit has my ip but I will change those a bot14:44
Lilpenguinbit14:45
ikonialerner: what do you mean the screen takes a hard turn14:45
lernerikonia, the screen turn to the left or right fast14:46
lernerturns14:46
ikoniathe screen turns ?14:46
Lilpenguinssh -R 2210 192.167.0.10:22 192.167.0.1214:46
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lernerthe screen shows, say, north and the turn to show west14:46
lernerthen turns*14:46
Lilpenguinllutz ssh -R 2210 192.167.0.10:22 192.167.0.1214:46
llutzLilpenguin: ssh -R 2210:192.167.0.10:22 192.167.0.1214:46
ikonialerner: I don't know what you mean by "the screen turns"14:47
lernerlet me find how to reformulate14:47
llutzlerner: the video content turns   you mean?14:47
lernerllutz, yes14:47
Lilpenguinllutz worked now over to the remote?14:48
llutzLilpenguin: it's all explained on the site i gave you. just follow their expamples, but read carefully.14:49
Lilpenguinllutz okay14:50
Kali_Yugahi is it possible to run retropie for 14.04? i tried this https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/RetroPie-Ubuntu-16.04-LTS-x86-Flavor for 16.04 but got errors. I was expecting errors since it was for 16.04 but i tried anyway.14:56
mr_louHas anyone reported any "unable to eject disc-drive, ioctl error" recently? Or is it just me?14:58
bzzzHello. someone recommend me Linux mail server? I want to install on my home server.15:00
anddambzzz: what mail server?15:00
llutzbzzz: mail on home server is always a limited thin. you'll need a smarthost to send mails to and a receiving mail-server, were fetchmail gets your incoming mails from.15:02
llutzthin = thing*15:05
mcphailbzzz: I use postfix and dovecot. But it takes a lot of reading to set up properly, and you can expect a lot of mail from a home internet connection to be rejected15:06
CrazyTuxhello, I forgot my freenode password. How can I get that?15:14
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ducasseCrazyTux: ask in #freenode15:14
CrazyTuxok. I just asked there.15:15
ducasseCrazyTux: then wait for a response, it's the weekend so it can take a while15:16
jcdHi, in Ubuntu 16.10, I have a problem with keyboard input. It appears in libreoffice  out-of-order !15:17
CrazyTuxok15:18
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jester_anyone can I ask a question about ISO mounting? if wubi.exe does not exist on your ISO, Does it mean I'm screwed? I'm a newbie on the whole ubuntu thing15:40
elias_ajester_: What are you trying to do? Install Ubuntu?15:42
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ducassejester_: wubi is dead and not used anymore, it's broken15:43
jester_ohhh so it means I just need to do the old burn thing?15:43
newb|67634Does anyone know why WIFI only works every other boot on Ubuntu? Very consistent behavior.15:44
newb|67634Boot once, doesnt work. Restart, it works. Restart again, it breaks. <-- Repeating15:44
ducassejester_: that would be the best and easiest option, use a dvd or usb15:44
jester_ follow up question? if wubi is dead and autorun.inf has this command open=wubi.exe --cdmenu? Do I need to change this? and to what exactly?15:45
elias_ajester_: I'd grab an USB stick and use that. Fast and convenient.15:45
mvvvvnewb|67634, looks like your driver is a funny one. what is your wifi device ? lspci15:46
elias_ajester_: Where do you find that?15:46
newb|67634i have no idea mvvvv, and the computer in question is currently offline so i cant check15:46
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newb|67634sorry15:46
newb|67634ill be going now15:46
elias_ajester_: Please explain what you are trying to do. IMHO you don't need to think about wubi at all.15:47
ducassejester_: just write the image to usb, ignore wubi15:47
jester_d15:47
jester_it's with the ultimate edition 5.1 I'm trying out distro's for my laptop.. I liked debian already but they say ubuntu is becoming more and more convenient each day so I should give it a try seens I'm still new and choose which is better15:48
ducassejester_: ultimate edition?15:49
elias_ajester_: Ultimate edition 5.1 of what?15:49
jester_ubuntu ultimate edition 5.1 based on ubuntu 16.0415:49
elias_aducasse: Echo...15:49
htafdresgiI have some weird dependency errors, where is says console-setup not configured so I can't install keyboard-configuration, and vice-versa15:49
elias_ajester_: What on earth is that? Where did you find it? :O15:50
jester_distrowatch.com15:50
ducassejester_: we support ubuntu, not the various derivatives. you need to get help elsewhere15:50
elias_ajester_: Please give a link. I want to see what it is.15:50
elias_ajester_: Read this. It will help you out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick15:51
pavlosseems to be 16.04 with KDE15:51
jester_ultimateedition.info/15:51
jester_that's the main website15:51
elias_ajester_: Don't choose that. Choose stock Ubuntu to begin with.15:51
jester_stock ubuntu?15:52
ducassejester_: from ubuntu.com15:52
jester_Is it mainly security and can wine windows too?15:52
Apachezehm... why has Trashcan been renamed to Rubbish bin? :)15:52
ducassejester_: 'mainly security'?15:53
pavlosjester_, http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/15:53
jester_well there are those distro whos main is the beauty of their GUI while others give much intent to their security... and I prefer security more than anything15:53
ducassejester_: ubuntu has a proper security team and takes it seriously, all these derivatives usually only use ubuntu's security patches15:54
jester_hmmm... okay okay thanks... I'll check that ubuntu stock that elias_a said15:55
jester_ then If I like ubuntu stick to it but if not maybe go back to debian afterwards.15:55
Mr_blondeHi all, can someone can help me with virtual box?15:59
RalphBaMr_blonde, whats the problem?15:59
ducasse!ask | Mr_blonde15:59
ubottuMr_blonde: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:59
Mr_blondeI've problem with configuring USB adapter. I installed VB extension pack in order to connect external wifi card buf after a few minutes it drops connection16:00
Mr_blondeI got tplink wn722n. The system is upgraded, everything works fine on host machine16:01
gulzarI intalled ubuntu on friiends laptop, and he never saw ubuntu, never heared linux, except that he needs to learn it. I thought of using ssh to login and configure his system. But its giving me port 22 connection refused. ufw is up, openssh-server was purged and reinstalled, ssh is up. but can't connect16:02
gulzarwhat to do16:02
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RalphBaMr_blonde, just dropping connection or loosing the hardware from vm?16:02
RalphBagulzar, same network segment?16:02
Mr_blondeConnection losing16:03
ducasseMr_blonde: what's the host and guest running?16:03
Guest95282ipforwarding?16:03
ZoomZoomZoomHi everyone! Have troubles configuring rtorrent systemd service. What am I doing wrong? http://pastebin.com/VgakXFVd16:03
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Mr_blondeducasse Host is elementary os, VB is parrot OS16:03
MonkeyDust!elementary16:04
ubottuElementary OS is an Ubuntu derivative which is supported in their IRC channel #elementary on irc.freenode.net - http://elementaryos.org/ for more information on this distribution.16:04
ducasseMr_blonde: and neither of those is ubuntu, which we support16:04
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gulzarGuest95282: what /how?16:04
gulzarRalphBa: means?16:04
Mr_blondeElementary is ubuntu based16:04
Mr_blondeActually is nearly the same16:04
RalphBagulzar, are you in the same network or do you try it via inet?16:04
MonkeyDustMr_blonde  it's too different and not supported here16:04
Mr_blondeWell... ok16:05
gulzarRalphBa: he lives in other state16:05
Mr_blondeBut You could help me anyways :)16:05
gulzarRalphBa: I helped him in installtion via screenshots on whatsapp16:05
ducasseMr_blonde: ask in #elementary16:05
RalphBagulzar, so over inet. so you try to connect to his ip. is his computer directly dialing into inet or going over a router?16:05
Mr_blondeOk, thanks16:06
hendrickscnHi, everyone. I am new here.16:06
gulzarRalphBa: there is a router in between16:06
RalphBagulzar, thats the problem16:06
gulzarRalphBa: i tried " ssh -p 22 user@ip"16:06
RalphBagulzar, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation16:06
DJonesgulzar: Has your friends router been configured to portforward to his computers internal ip address16:07
RalphBagulzar, he needs to forward port 22 of his router to his computer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_forwarding16:07
DJones!portforward16:07
ubottuFor instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall16:07
gulzarDJones: I am not so good with network and its terminologies16:07
gulzarDJones: :(16:07
gulzarRalphBa: he knows nothing about computers/tech. Not even what is terminal, what is 'reboot', or bios16:08
RalphBagulzar, its quite simple. imagine his homenetwork as house. the adress just says which hous but not which flat. the receptionist has to forward the stuff to the specific receiver16:09
MonkeyDustgulzar  it's hard to give assistance if you don't know the basic terms16:09
gulzarMonkeyDust: I know, he don't16:09
gulzarMonkeyDust: I am arch user :)16:09
RalphBagulzar, the receptionist is the router and there is an option for port forwarding. he needs to login into his router interface and forward port 2216:09
gulzarRalphBa: ok this I can tell him, hope he know his router login/adr16:10
RalphBagulzar, lets assume his network ist 192.168.0.0 then the router might be 192.168.0.116:10
RalphBagulzar, most routers are accessible via port 80 http16:11
suid1Hello All!16:11
gulzarRalphBa: ok16:11
RalphBagulzar, login data usually you find on a sticker at the router16:11
gulzarok after login?16:12
RalphBagulzar, but since he lives across the street you may visit him ;)16:12
elias_aRalphBa: Hopefully not. :D16:12
gulzarRalphBa: he lives like 400km away16:12
RectalPropro16:12
RalphBaelias_a, often yes :D16:12
RalphBagulzar, after login depending on the router there is somewhere an menu entry port forwarding16:13
RainbowcupcakeI have a question I run 16.04 64Bit LTS Xenial Xerus and GNOME Terminal 3.18.3 did they remove background tab under Edit>Profile Preferences ??16:13
gulzarRalphBa: ok16:13
gulzarlets tru16:13
RalphBagulzar, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvzFHHDvU8E16:13
RalphBafor a netgear16:14
elias_aRalphBa: It is called Internet of Thongs. You underestimate security until they bite your butt and electrocute other parts. :P16:14
m3n3chm0hi I realized that in xubuntu 16.10 I can't restore the GUI with Ctrl-Alt-F7 any help ??16:14
ducassegulzar: just see the link ubottu gave you, it explains everything16:14
gulzarducasse: ubottu gave me nothing16:14
RalphBaelias_a, never would do that myself. but most isps are doing that16:15
ducasse!portforward | gulzar16:15
ubottugulzar: For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall16:15
elias_aRalphBa: Yes, here too. And it is dangerous. :)16:15
RalphBagulzar, type !portforward16:15
gulzarducasse: thank you16:17
RalphBaelias_a, it is just stupid. but after what I experienced with the usual it guys, theres nothing else to expect16:17
gulzarRalphBa: will try and see16:17
gulzarRalphBa: thank you16:17
RalphBagulzar, ok, much luck (depending on the internet service provider he may also have no public ip, in that case it gets complicated involving calling that guys)16:18
RalphBagulzar, so if you get further problems check for https://www.iplocation.net/public-vs-private-ip-address16:19
gulzarRalphBa: ok16:22
gulzarRalphBa: thank you16:22
RalphBagulzar, welcome16:22
gulzarbazhang: Hello, long long time. Years . How are you?16:23
elias_aRalphBa: Nice support attitude you've got. Kudos!16:24
RalphBaelias_a, ?16:24
elias_aRalphBa: Trying be polite here. :)16:24
RalphBaelias_a, ahh, thanks16:24
et092017 - nvidia or amd?16:24
RalphBaelias_a, not often but if I think once I try my best16:24
gulzarRalphBa: almost 6yr ago I was ubuntu fan, got bad feeling from this channel. Switched to fedora and its irc was worst. Then on Arch and the people were best there. After so many years this level of support feels good16:25
elias_agulzar: That's why I'm hanging here. :)16:26
et09gulzar: ditto, but my main prob was the repos16:26
et09arch/ubuntu split right now16:26
RalphBagulzar, I fear you cannot nail this to a distro. it depends on the people16:27
gulzaret09: I like the CUDA/nvidia support on ubuntu. Never able to configure nvidia on arch.16:28
gulzarRalphBa: yes to people, not the distro.16:28
et09it's a little harder16:28
gulzarRalphBa: ubuntu is bes for newbies. and my only recommendation to all people want to try linux16:28
RalphBahmm... its about gpus here? OFFTOPIC: do anyone know the best FP64 performance for good price?16:29
et09although usually on ubuntu i think i end up doing it from the .run files nvidia gives you, and ditching the ubuntu packages16:29
ghighiriciao16:29
faLUCEHello, I don't want to be polemic with my question, because I'm very grateful to all the Ubuntu's team over the years, but.... what did it happen in the last two years?? The last distros are too much unstable and full of bugs. Why? Is the ubuntu project going to be dismissed?16:29
RalphBamost gpus are tied to good FP32 performance, for simulations thats trash16:29
ghighiri!list16:29
ubottughighiri: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».16:29
gulzarfaLUCE: bugs, maybe ubuntu is doing lots of experimentation with one distro all platform16:30
faLUCEgulzar: but I did not experienced so many bugs in the past...16:31
faLUCEnow I'm forced to change the distro16:31
gulzarfaLUCE: debian?16:31
OerHeksfaLUCE, give exact examples? this sounds more like a flamewar16:31
faLUCEOerHeks: networking, graphics16:31
gulzarfaLUCE: networking is much better on ubntu I think, lots of support, lots of contributers16:32
faLUCEOerHeks: for example, I had kernel panics with a usb dongle, the internal wifi nic doesn't work properly and the screen flickers16:32
h1n1hello my ubuntu is intact, and i change much my distribuition.16:32
OerHeksfaLUCE, and those do not happen in other distros ? you well know usb wifi devices do not all have optimal drivers.16:32
gulzarfaLUCE: kernel panicks, I only got them on fedora 16 untable beta. or while messing with KVM16:33
faLUCEanyway, I don't want to make a flamewar. I just wonder what is the status of the project16:33
gulzarfaLUCE: its going good, backed by a millionare16:33
faLUCEOerHeks: but I use ubuntu since some years, and never had so many problems16:33
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gulzarI wish I can have HUD on arch16:33
faLUCEok, I had to tune many things (which is normal in linux), but never had so big problems with networking, graphics etc.16:34
OerHeksfaLUCE, so what distro runs RTL8188CUS fine?16:34
gulzarfaLUCE: happens sometimes, last month after Arch udpate X stopeed working, have to revert and wait for a weak16:35
OerHeksdon't blame the ubuntu project on 1 piece of flaky hardware16:35
faLUCEOerHeks: in fact I don't know. I only know that in the past I had no problems with wifi. I'm not BLAMING ubuntu project, I only wander what is the reason for that16:35
gulzarfaLUCE: stick with LTS?16:35
faLUCEOerHeks: with graphic card I had many problems too16:35
faLUCE<gulzar> faLUCE: stick with LTS?  <-- what do you mean?16:36
gulzarso what are you using now?16:36
faLUCEgulzar: I use 6.10 with 4.0.22 kernel16:36
gulzarfaLUCE: LTS-> long term support AKA LTE versions16:36
gulzarfaLUCE: that's what I put on people who wants ubntu only for work and no hassle during updates16:37
faLUCEgulzar: do you mean that I should use LTS?16:37
gulzarfaLUCE: if so many problems with new OS, stick with LTS16:38
faLUCEgulzar: which release?16:38
OerHeksfaLUCE, time to do updating, 16.10 comes with 4.816:39
faLUCE6.04 ?16:39
faLUCEOerHeks: do you mean 4.8 kernel?16:39
gulzartry upgrade complete system also16:39
h1n1install package .deb from dpkg. good luck for you. my Ubuntu have interface LXDE and app of the  Kali.16:40
gulzari3 here16:40
OerHeksfaLUCE, what do you not understand?16:40
bekksh1n1: So you are using Kali?16:40
faLUCEgulzar: I'm a bit frightened before doing a complete upgrade... I'll do that only in desperationg, when I can't get out of networking problems16:40
bekksHWE ships Kernel 4.8.0 for 16.04 as well.16:41
MonkeyDusth1n1  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue16:41
faLUCEOerHeks:  faLUCE, time to do updating, 16.10 comes with 4.8  <--- do you mean 4.8 kernel?16:41
faLUCEOk16:41
gulzaryes16:41
faLUCEI downloaded 3 days ago 16.10 and I got 4.0.39 + 4.0.22 kernels16:41
bekksOerHeks: faLUCE: on 16.04: sudo apt install linux-generic-hwe-16.0416:42
faLUCEOerHeks: but my first thought is: what is the status or RTL8188CUS on 4.8 kernel?16:42
onicromhi all, ubuntu 12.04 here... just updated my kernel and it seems the header/src files are missing. files in /usr/src/linux-headers-3.13.0-109-generic point to ../linux-lts-trusty-headers-3.13.0-109/sound BUT that trusty-headers dir doesnt exist! this seems to be the only version that is missing the linux-headers-3.13.0-109 (non-generic) src dir16:42
bekks!12.04 | onicrom16:42
ubottuonicrom: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is a currently-supported !LTS release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120416:42
OerHeksfaLUCE, how odd, no 4.8 kernel ?16:43
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onicrombekks: what am i looking at?16:43
bekkswow :)16:43
OerHeksfaLUCE, explain this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes#Linux_kernel_4.816:43
MonkeyDustonicrom  tip: instead of struggling with 12.04, better upgrade ... 12.04 will be !eol in a few weeks from now16:43
bekksonicrom: Isnt it time to update soon, since 12.04 is quite old - but still supported.16:43
onicromMonkeyDust: thats not very helpful16:43
onicromit is still supported16:44
onicromwe are upgrading16:44
onicrombut not now16:44
onicromand i need this resolved i cant just upgrade a prod system because of this16:44
faLUCEOerHeks: I simply downloaded the image from Lubuntu website, and the provided kernel was 4.0.22 + 4.0.3916:44
faLUCEmaybe the problem is L-ubuntu16:44
bekksfaLUCE: And now just run the command given.16:44
bekksfaLUCE: Lubuntu uses the same packages as Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc.16:45
faLUCEbekks: you gave a command for 16.0416:45
bekksfaLUCE: I did.16:45
faLUCEI'm using 16.1016:45
bekksfaLUCE: And the command is almost the same for 16.10, just search for the linux image hwe package.16:45
user_32this is BR for here16:45
faLUCEbekks: ok,  but I still wonder: what is the status or RTL8188CUS on 4.8 kernel?16:46
faLUCE*OF16:47
bekksfaLUCE: Take a look at the official kernel changelog for 4.816:47
faLUCEbekks: ok16:47
OerHeksstatus of that 8188cus is the same crappy driver as a year ago, not a kernel issue.16:48
bekksI second OerHeks.16:48
OerHeksand you have kernel 4.8, else you did something yourself..16:48
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OerHeksSo, what is the status of Ubuntu Project?16:49
faLUCEOerHeks: then, on windows there are same issues with the same NIC?16:49
faLUCEor similar issues?16:49
bekksfaLUCE: The chipset stays crappy, yes.16:49
OerHeksnice try, i'll ignore you now.16:50
faLUCEI'm not polemic, I'm trying to understand16:50
bekksfaLUCE: Windows is irrelevant for this channel.16:50
faLUCEbecause it appears strange to me that a network card has so many issues.16:50
bekksfaLUCE: It is a RTL chipset. They are crappy for decades, which is a well known "feature".16:51
ducassefaLUCE: that chipset should not be used for anything relating to computing.16:51
faLUCEit could be easily what you say, but I want to understand better16:51
faLUCEbekks: ducasse but it seems that it's quite common16:51
bekksfaLUCE: And its still crappy.16:52
ducassei wanted to use a stronger word, but yes.16:52
ducassefaLUCE: the reason it is common is that it is cheap. a lot of people buy cheap stuff, with no thought about quality.16:56
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faLUCE[sabato 25 febbraio 2017] [17:53:13 CET] <faLUCE> bekks: I see. So, in order to have a workaround for that, should I buy a good usb dongle and disable the PCI internal one?17:02
faLUCE[sabato 25 febbraio 2017] [17:53:48 CET] <faLUCE> I use a mini-pc, so I can't access to PCI stuff17:02
bekksfaLUCE: I'd second that, yes.17:02
faLUCE bekks: I see. So, in order to have a workaround for that, should I buy a good usb dongle and disable the PCI internal one?17:05
faLUCEI use a mini-pc, so I can't access to PCI stuff17:05
donofriowhat commands can I type to get the grub2 loader to boot a windows usb stick?17:05
bekksfaLUCE: I did answer your question, already.17:05
faLUCEbekks: could not read your answer due to connection problems17:06
bekks0225 180252 < bekks> faLUCE: I'd second that, yes.17:06
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ducassedonofrio: try #grub17:07
faLUCEbekks: ok, I'll do that17:07
OerHeksdonofrio, os-prober should detect your windows17:09
ducassefaLUCE: if you can replace the internal one somehow, get an intel one17:09
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dontHi to all. Who can help me with lineage 2 interlude installation?17:21
MonkeyDust!find lineage17:22
ubottuFile lineage found in aevol, docbook-defguide, gramps, linux-doc, linux-headers-3.4.0-4-goldfish, linux-headers-4.8.0-22-generic, linux-headers-4.8.0-22-lowlatency, linux-headers-4.8.0-26-generic, linux-headers-4.8.0-26-lowlatency, linux-headers-4.8.0-27-generic (and 37 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=lineage&mode=&suite=yakkety&arch=any17:22
alkisgI think it's a game not a package :)17:23
OerHeksdont, is this a windows game/wine ?17:23
OerHeksdont, see https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=9115 or join #winehq for help17:24
MenzadorOr #playonlinux if you use PlayOnLinux17:25
dontjoin #wineh17:25
dontty.17:25
anddamah here it is in mldonkey-server, the rules have only  --enable-gui=newgui2 --enable-directconnect --disable-magic --disable-fasttrack17:40
anddamso no upnp option17:40
anddamluckily enough I'm smart enough to not try and build the package just for that17:41
bekksInstead you jusr setup minidlna?17:41
nvdrivershey all, i have run into a bit of trouble, looks like my nvidia driver modules are not properly installing17:43
bekksWhy not? And how do you install them?17:43
nvdriversfirst ran into an issue after trying to install the latest cuda package from nvidia, cuda-repo-ubuntu1604-8-0-local-ga2_8.0.61-1_amd64.deb17:43
nvdriverswhich wanted to install nvidia-37517:43
nvdriversi was on nvidia-367.1517:44
nvdriversive tried to purge and reinstall, but after reboot i get "NVIDIA-SMI has failed because it couldn't communicate with NVIDIA driver. Make sure that latest NVIDIA driver is installed and running."17:44
OerHeksnvdrivers, don't use the cuda package from nvidia, told you hours ago. upgrade to 16.10 for cuda 817:44
bekksAnd is it installed and running?17:44
bekksAh.17:44
nvdriversOerHeks: yes, I have removed this package though, im trying to install the old drivers17:45
nvdriversi will upgrade to 16.1017:45
nvdriversbut as it stands i fear that will bring more problems, and possibly not fix this issue17:45
nvdriversi'd rather do a fresh install of 16.1017:45
nvdriversright now i need cuda and the drivers working, as something needs delivered at work17:46
nvdrivershttp://guanghan.info/blog/en/my-works/building-our-personal-deep-learning-rig-gtx-1080-ubuntu-16-04-cuda-8-0rc-cudnn-7-tensorflowmxnetcaffedarknet/17:46
nvdriversi followed these steps for the original setup17:47
nvdriversor these https://yangcha.github.io/GTX-1080/17:47
nvdriverswhich used nvidia cuda_8.0.27_linux.run for cuda, but drivers were from ppa17:48
nvdriversthat worked fine17:48
pavlosnvdrivers, I was able to install cuda 8 on 16.04 (d/l the deb file from nvidia site, apt update, then apt install cuda, took long time but all went ok17:48
nvdriverspavlos: that's what i did17:48
nvdriversdownload deb, dpkg -i ubuntu1604-8-0-local-ga2_8.0.61-1_amd64.deb17:49
nvdriversbut then it wanted to update the driver17:49
nvdriversafter that ive been unable to load any nvidia driver17:49
pavlosnvdrivers, I dont have the gtx-1080, I have a 550Ti, I can look up which driver is using17:50
nvdriversit doesn't have anything to do with the card17:50
nvdriversit looks like the module isn't even being loaded17:51
nvdriversor installed properly17:51
OerHeksso with 16.04 without kernel 4.8 and your cuda8 you will miss essential kernel hooks.17:51
pavlosnvdrivers, mine uses 375.2617:52
nvdriversOerHeks: it worked fine before17:52
nvdrivershas cuda changed requiring hooks that are not available in 4.417:52
nvdriverssince 8.0.2717:52
nvdriversbetween there and the current 8.0.6117:53
nvdriverswhich afaik isn't available from ppa, only 8.0.4417:53
nvdriversin short, i want to try diagnose and fix the problem, deliver this stuff to boss... then re-provision the machine with 16.1017:54
nvdriversall i can seem to load is "nvidiafb" there's no other loadable nvidia kernel module17:54
nvdriversdid that pastebin work?17:55
OerHeksnvdrivers, i guess you understand your support issue is invalid.17:55
nvdriversfind /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -type f -name \*.ko | grep nvidia17:56
nvdriversim just trying to track down what is blocking "apt install nvidia-367" from working17:56
nvdriversthose drivers were working fine17:56
nvdriversand i cant seem to find anything in the logs, there are no errors or warnings17:56
nvdrivershttp://pastebin.com/yb8B6DWw17:57
nvdriversthat's all I see17:57
pavlosnvdrivers, seems it did not build correctly. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24066392/18:01
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nvdriversthanks pavlos18:01
nvdriversi dont see any error messages, could there be something in a log?18:02
nvdriversmaybe im missing headers or something like that?18:02
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nvdrivershttps://thepasteb.in/p/58hgEMZ7YJWHv18:04
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pavlosnvdrivers, you should have the /usr/src/linux-headers-4.4.0-64-generic/ tree18:10
nvdriversi dont18:11
nvdriversonly /usr/src/linux-headers-4.4.0-62-generic/18:12
nvdriversinteresting18:12
bonfireHowdy (:18:15
bonfireAnyone available for some tips?18:16
bonfireI've got 16.04 on a laptop that keeps getting ridiculously hot.18:17
nvdriversi have that same problem at home, it has killed my battery also18:17
bonfireIt's a samsung with dual graphics (intel and ATI)18:18
nvdriversgot a new one, wasn't long before it has no capacity to hold charge18:18
bonfireThe CPU sits at 92 Celsius idle after about 15 minutes.18:18
bekksMaybe clean the fans?18:19
nvdriverspavlos: ok looks like installing headers fixed the issue18:19
nvdriversit's a bit strange that there's no error about it!18:20
bonfirebekks, windows does not have the same issue.18:20
nvdriverskind of useless18:20
bonfirenvdrivers, have you experience with bumblebee? I'm just not sure where to begin18:21
conanhello!!!18:21
nvdriversbonfire: i use nvidia-prime18:22
nvdriversbut even then it's still hot18:22
nvdriversfan runs louder18:22
nvdriversit's really disappointing18:22
bonfireI read somewhere that it may be the GPU running at full bore, but the laptop is configured to use the onboard Intel chipset18:22
nvdriversyeah even when it switch to intel, still hot18:23
nvdriversthere's stuff about clock stepping, etc.18:23
nvdriverssadly running windows on the laptop kept the temps and battery drain at healthy levels18:24
asdf_hi guys I have a problem18:26
MonkeyDustasdf_  let's hear it, in one line18:27
asdf_Guys I accidentally deleted my /var/www/html can somebody give me theirs? or give a solution to backup or restore the file?18:28
bekksasdf_: Restore is possible only if you created a backup before.18:28
bekksasdf_: By default, that directory only contains a index.html - I doubts thats your actual issue.18:29
asdf_yes thats my issue18:29
asdf_but I do not know what is in that folder18:29
tomreynasdf_: which webserver do you have installed?18:30
k1l_asdf_: its your web stuff. that dosnt work with files from someone else18:30
asdf_aww, is there a way to create new file18:30
asdf_RE: tomreyn I have apache218:30
tomreynif it's apache, the index.html file is robably part of the apache2-common package18:31
k1l_asdf_: just open a texteditor and put the stuff in you want and save the file there18:31
k1l_asdf_: that really depends what on what you want or had there18:31
OerHeksreinstall apache, done.18:31
asdf_What I really want to do is to search for localhost and use DVWA (damn vulnerable web application) and test sql injection but the web page says 404 not found and The requested URL / was not found on this server. Apache/2.4.25 (Debian) Server at localhost Port 8018:32
asdf_But I guess that it does not work because I removed my /var/www/html18:32
OerHeksyou .. hacked yourself?18:33
asdf_nope :p18:33
nvdriversOerHeks: seems just installing the linux headers has resolved the problem completely, and that cuda package is playing fine18:33
nvdriversOerHeks: but i will upgrade later18:34
nvdriversstrangely i only see one GPU, but that might be a power issue18:34
pavlosasdf_, my /var/www/html/index.html ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/24066572/18:34
pavlosasdf_, size 11321 bytes18:35
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amazoniantoadI suddenly cannot see 5ghz wireless networks but can still see 2.4ghz. Can someone help me figure out what happened and how to fix this?18:36
asdf_Ok thanks. That worked but now, however I want to access the DVWA by searching localhost but it does not show it18:37
k1l_asdf_: you need to reinstall that stuff18:37
asdf_What stuff?18:37
k1l_because you deleted all of it18:37
k1l_asdf_: you delete all your websites and stuff that is supposed to work with apache.18:39
asdf_k1l_: ok then. how can I reinstall them18:40
MonkeyDustasdf_  you don't install websites, you create them18:41
asdf_MonkeyDust: I want to use DVWA but it does not load18:42
bekksasdf_: What is "DVWA"?18:42
asdf_MonkeyDust: it is Damn Vulnerable Web Application used to test sql injections etc.18:42
pavlosasdf_, sudo apt install apache2, test with http://localhost/18:42
bekksasdf_: Yuou need to install and configure it as the docs of DVWA tell you.18:43
k1l_asdf_: asak them how to install and setup their software18:43
MonkeyDustddg finds a few DVWA tutorials18:46
bekksNot even a need for asking, their README.md shipped in their download provides a link for an install video. You just need to read...18:46
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pavlosamazoniantoad, is your network card dual band?18:52
JoniiHello. I installed Ubuntu with more or less default settings, and unfortunately I ended up with Swap18:56
JoniiNow I need to figure out a way to disable it18:56
k1l_Jonii: comment it in the fstab18:56
JoniiOkay. Now, just to be safe, can I check what applications are being put into swap?18:57
JoniiLike, worst case scenario is that they'd crash if memory runs out, no?18:57
tgm4883Jonii: you'd have to reboot after doing the fstab change18:57
k1l_Jonii: that will take effect after reboot18:58
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#Why_do_I_need_swap.3F18:58
k1l_but if you use swap now, that means it will kill programs next boot if you run out of memory18:58
tgm4883Jonii: how much ram do you have?18:59
Jonii8gb18:59
JoniiBrowsers and office programs for whatever reason keep taking about 5gb of it19:00
k1l_well, memory is there to be used.19:00
JoniiI wouldn't really mind browsers rather crashing on me than just there not being swap, but I'd want to make sure it's just browsers that crash19:00
JoniiThe problem is, I do game every once in a while19:01
tgm4883Jonii: I wouldn't disable swap19:01
JoniiAnd unless I do with freshly rebooted machine, game ends up being slowed down by swap shenanigans19:01
JoniiAnd you can't seem to get rid of that problem without rebooting the entire machine19:01
tgm4883swapoff would19:02
geogeogeohi19:09
geogeogeoi need some help19:10
geogeogeoi am living in china, i am new user on ubuntu only few hours and i love it19:10
geogeogeobut the big china is not letting people to get information for outside, and TOR is blocked as well19:10
geogeogeoi have a VPN what i buy and is working then , and pages like google and all what i want, but i wanna to use TAILS and that only use always TOR like a default and only browser19:11
geogeogeoso i need some bridges or i dont know ... how i can configurate good UBUNTU and be safe and can navigate free ?19:11
amazoniantoadpavlos, yes19:12
amazoniantoadpavlos, it worked a week or so ago and now it doesn't19:12
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geogeogeoif somebody know the steps about how i can make a SAFE Ubuntu who can hide my IP and can navigate free out of china ,please make me know at my email: bakura.osaka@protonmail.com , thank you so much big UbuntuMate community19:13
tehmalGuys... its possible to check what program uses my internet and how much?19:14
roshanHI Guys19:14
tehmalsomethinks uses my net in background... and i dont know what! :>19:14
geogeogeohi people, somebody who can help me in China ?19:14
roshanIs it possible to add wifi driver for ubuntu 64bit19:14
roshangeogeogeo: Yes please19:15
geogeogeothx roshan19:15
roshangeogeogeo: please ask.19:16
geogeogeomy problem is I am in China , and no way to can navigate out of Chinese pages, even google is censored, facebook, youtube and all this but that is not what is very important for me, what i need to know if is enought safe to can use UbuntuMate for use TOR in china ?19:16
geogeogeobecause is not working and i buy a PureVPN what yes is working on windows and i can use firefox but same never really hide my IP and that bring me problems even if i enter on google and i start navigate ...19:16
pavlosamazoniantoad, this may help ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/183525/how-to-set-wifi-driver-settings-to-prefer-5-ghz-channel-above-2-4-ghz19:17
geogeogeoSame i can not use TAILS because is censored and is using TOR like default browser witch is not working without bridges , what same is impossible to found to can jump and navigate out of china19:17
roshangeogeogeo: I am not getting your point please elborate it more "TOR"19:17
roshanhi eternal-pain19:18
geogeogeoTOR is the Free doom Browser in the world and who can hide your IP then i can navigate like i am in another country and not in china19:18
geogeogeois same like Firefox but who the same, without the right bridges, is not working19:19
roshangeogeogeo: you can use proxyies for this19:19
roshangeogeogeo: you can use proxies for this19:19
geogeogeois impossible to can found or download that in china, somebody can give me thats proxys or send me at email and use them ?19:19
roshangeogeogeo: like i am using chrome extension from india19:19
geogeogeobecause in china all is censored19:19
geogeogeochrome is not working in china19:20
eternal-painhi19:20
geogeogeodo you have some proxys bro ?19:20
roshaneternal-pain: could you please help me to install ubuntu 64 bit wifi driver ?19:20
geogeogeono more battery on laptop shit ... please send me some proxys at my email bro, at bakura.osaka@protonmail.com19:22
eternal-painroshan, which wifi card/adapter do you use?19:22
geogeogeothank you19:22
roshanqualcomm autherous19:22
roshaneternal-pain: qualcomm autherous19:22
eternal-painroshan, depending on the chipset you need a specific driver for that. what is the output of "lspci | grep -i network" ?19:24
roshaneternal-pain: give me 2 minutes. I'll back eith output19:25
roshaneternal-pain: The output is: 02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros Device 0042 (rev 30)19:27
roshaneternal-pain:  any solution ?19:30
eternal-painroshan, i just had to search for the package, as i never had an atheros card. seems to work if you just install the driver automatically with jockey19:31
roshanNatureShade: can you please help me to find wifi driver for Qualcomm Atheros Device 004219:31
OerHeksroshan, we need the 8 digit hec  ID code19:31
giuseppe_hi everyone I have a problem with snd-hda-intel driver audio, can someone help me?19:31
eternal-painroshan, do you use a desktop environment? then jockey should be installed by default19:31
roshaneternal-pain:  I have my new lenovo ideapad19:32
roshanOerHeks: how can i get this 8 digit code19:32
OerHekslspci -nn | grep Atheros19:33
OerHeksi guess it is [168c:0042] >>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/780608/network-controller-0280-qualcomm-atheros-device-168c0042-rev-30-wifi-not with driver solution19:34
eternal-painroshan, what is the output of "ubuntu-drivers devices"?19:34
OerHekseternal-pain +1 ---> second last post: driver is included by default in 16.0419:35
roshaneternal-pain: I am getting vendor, modalias, driver and driver inthe list19:36
roshaneternal-pain: and vendor is NVIDIA Corporation19:36
eternal-painroshan, if it shows you the wifi card, you need the additional driver. you can install it either directly by the package name with "apt install <package>" or automatically with jockey by typing "ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"19:37
eternal-painthe nvidia hardware is most likely your graphics card19:38
roshaneternal-pain: nope its showing only NVIDIA card19:38
eternal-painthen the driver should already be installed19:38
eternal-painwhat does "iwconfig" say?19:38
lord-ragnarockHow do I simply download a kernel with apt-get? I did 'sudo apt-get install linux-powerpc-smp' and the new kernel is nowhere to be found in my /boot folder19:47
bekkslord-ragnarock: powerpc doesnt use /boot IIRC.19:47
lord-ragnarockOhhhh19:47
lord-ragnarockI'm asking cause I use an app called BootX from Mac OS, which requires I copy a kernel and initrd over from the Linux drive19:48
lord-ragnarockI currently use 3.2 and would like to experiment with... I think it's 3.16 now?19:48
bekkslord-ragnarock: So take a look at the package content, and you will see where the files are being placed.19:48
bekkslord-ragnarock: Current kernel is 4.8 :)19:49
JoniiCan you add widgets or the like to unity desktop?19:49
lord-ragnarockCan you actually compile that for ppc? :)19:49
k1l_Jonii: you can add indicators19:49
bekkslord-ragnarock: Personally, I never tried, due to lacking PPC hw :)19:49
lord-ragnarockHahaha I see19:50
bekkslord-ragnarock: But it works for ARM, which I've tried :)19:50
k1l_Jonii: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available19:50
lord-ragnarockIf it gives you any ideas, I'm trying to get my graphics card working properly again after an upgrade :p19:51
bekkslord-ragnarock: Actually, no :D19:51
lord-ragnarockFound out from others last night that fglrx got removed when I updated from 12.04 to 14.04 :(19:51
bekkslord-ragnarock: Oh, yeah, ages ago it got removed.19:51
lord-ragnarockThat sucks :/ I have no clue what to do. It allowed me to use 1920x108019:52
bekkslord-ragnarock: Just use the opensource replacement?19:52
lord-ragnarockThat's part of the xserver-xorg-video-ati package I think?19:52
mcphail!info fglrx trusty19:53
lord-ragnarockI've heard and read about it, but can't figure out whether or not my system's even using it :/19:53
ubottufglrx (source: fglrx-installer): Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is extra. Version 2:15.201-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 (trusty), package size 22866 kB, installed size 102118 kB (Only available for amd64; i386)19:53
mcphailIt is in 14.0419:53
lord-ragnarockOhhhh, that explains everything...19:53
lord-ragnarockIt's not available for PPC19:54
mcphailAah. OK19:54
lord-ragnarock!info fglrx precise19:54
ubottufglrx (source: fglrx-installer): Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators. In component restricted, is extra. Version 2:13.350.1-0ubuntu0.0.1 (precise), package size 51150 kB, installed size 147099 kB (Only available for amd64; i386)19:54
OerHekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ#What_yaboot_parameters_should_I_use_for_graphics_problems.3F19:54
lord-ragnarockThat's even weirder :P19:55
lord-ragnarockOh hi again OerHeks :D19:55
OerHekshi lord-ragnarock19:55
mcphailWas PPC an official port at the time of precise? If not, ubottu won't know about it19:55
lord-ragnarockGood question. No clue19:55
A_Legit_Cookiethis si the support server, right?19:56
k1l_A_Legit_Cookie: this is the ubuntu technical support channel.19:56
OerHeksalso handy to check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCKnownIssues19:56
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A_Legit_CookieBecause for some reason my config file is empty and i wanna know if this is a problem or not19:57
k1l_A_Legit_Cookie: what config file?19:57
lord-ragnarockI'm not very familiar with kernel bootargs. What exactly would 'radeon.modeset' do?19:57
A_Legit_Cookiethe Ubuntu MATE config19:57
OerHekslord-ragnarock, those options disable DKMS19:58
A_Legit_Cookieis it bad that my Ubuntu MATE config is empty19:58
bekkslord-ragnarock: that would set the modeset parameter for the radeon module.19:58
A_Legit_Cookiek1l: is it bad that my Ubuntu MATE config is empty?19:59
OerHekslong time i smelled PowerPC19:59
k1l_A_Legit_Cookie: i dont know about mate and its configs. was it empty before? what did you do?19:59
A_Legit_Cookiei didnt do anything, k1l, this is a fresh install on a Raspberry Pi 3 Model B. i have a 128 GB sd card and i shrank the file system20:00
A_Legit_Cookiemaybe shrinking the file system has something to do with it?20:00
bekksA_Legit_Cookie: How did you shrink the fs?20:01
A_Legit_Cookiethrough the welcome window20:01
A_Legit_Cookiethat appears when you boot up ubuntu20:01
bekkshuh?20:02
A_Legit_Cookiek1l: do you think shrinking the file system effected it?20:03
lord-ragnarockOerHeks, Oh. Hm.20:04
lord-ragnarockNot sure what modules are DKMS'd in Ubuntu. I'll give that a shot :)20:04
OerHeksA_Legit_Cookie, time to reinstall, use the same partitions20:05
A_Legit_Cookiecool, thanks20:06
A_Legit_Cookiefor the help20:06
aldamhi20:12
nvdriversi seem to be having issues getting xorg / lightdm working without the monitor plugged in20:14
nvdriversanyone had experience with this before/20:15
cfoch-al1hi20:16
cfoch-al1is there an alternative to "localectrl set-locale LANG=C" by just editing a file?20:16
lkira2437Hi.20:18
lkira2437Hello!!!20:18
k1l_hi20:19
lkira2437You can see me?20:19
lkira2437because I've a problem with my public IP20:21
chandlerbingI have a rutorrent client setup with a nginx reverse proxy on a subdomain. I have setup a password verification with nginx but if you to my server and the url with the port number you dont need to put in a password. How can i block that people can go to my domain with port?20:22
elias_alkira2437: I see your writing. :)20:22
nvdriversplaes haelp: kernel: [  672.598432] unity-greeter[5124]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f0bb70469bf sp 00007fff922cad98 error 4 in libc-2.23.so[7f0bb6fb1000+1bf000]20:23
lkira2437That's ok...20:24
lkira2437@elias_a20:24
lkira2437elias_a20:24
lkira2437#elias_a20:25
nvdriversok, switching from vnc4server to tightvncserver has improved matters, but i just have a grey screen20:25
Bashing-om!tab | lkira243720:25
ubottulkira2437: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.20:25
lkira2437ls compdoc20:27
lkira2437ok20:27
nvdriversanyone have experience with lightdm and vnc?20:32
compdocon the unity desktop?20:32
nvdriversyeah20:32
nvdriversideally20:32
nvdriversi had issues with compiz segfaulting20:32
nvdriverswas hoping the latest drivers might fix that20:33
compdocdont think its possible, unless something has changed recently20:33
nvdriversah20:33
compdocyou need a 2d desktop20:33
nvdriversi just get a grey screen when i log in20:33
compdocI use mate20:33
nvdriversunity no good?20:33
nvdriversi managed to get in with x11vnc or tigervnc20:33
compdocits 3d only, and maybe theres a new way, but its never worked before20:34
nvdriversive reinstalled lightdm and tightvncserver20:34
nvdriversoh i see20:34
compdocdoesnt bother me. Mate and x2go are the perfect combo20:34
nvdriversthe grey desktop is disconcerting20:34
nvdriversi see people suggesting "user-session=unity-2d"20:35
compdocvnc was great, but always had to make it work manually20:35
compdoctrial and error20:35
nvdriversi dont get this grey screen, i have a .vnc/xsession20:36
alkisgunity-2d doesn't exist since ubuntu 12.10 or so20:36
k1l_there is a new one20:36
nvdriversah20:36
alkisgk1l_: a new unity-2d? some link please?20:37
k1l_its called low graphics mode20:37
compdocthat would be great20:37
nvdriversi can run that over vnc?20:37
nvdriversany tips20:37
k1l_https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/09/19/low-graphics-mode-in-unity-7/20:37
nvdriversthis grey screen issue is a nightmare20:37
alkisgk1l_: are you talking about unity with less eye candy? That still requires compositing etc, so it's a no go...20:38
alkisggl20:38
nvdriversnot sure how x11vnc worked, although it seemed to be just forwarding the lightdm framebuffer20:38
nvdriverstigervnc also got me to the lightdm greeter20:38
alkisgIt might be workable for VMs, but e.g. not over the network, so it's nothing like unity 2d20:38
nvdrivershad animations etc.20:38
nvdriversat least when you switch users at the login screen20:39
k1l_i dont know about remote desktop since i dont use that but this linked article talks about it. so read it20:39
nvdriversok, so i get a nice login screen with tigervnc20:40
nvdriversbut when i log in, it's openbox20:40
alkisgDon't use vnc, use x2go for remote logins20:40
alkisgIt needs special setup, and vnc viewers don't bother to properly setup the desktop20:41
alkisg*servers20:41
nvdriverskernel: [ 1733.136740] lightdm[8894]: segfault at 0 ip 00007ff039c2db96 sp 00007ffdfa4e9e28 error 4 in libc-2.23.so[7ff039ba3000+1bf000]20:41
nvdriversthat's what happens when i log in with unity/ubuntu desktop20:41
onlaI'm trying to install https://github.com/allan-simon/linthesia but in the dependencies it mentions I need  librtmidi-dev, but when I execute apt-get install librtmidi-dev, it says that it needs 192MB and that it needs to remove lubuntu-desktop and wine for example. What?? I need both of them I think20:42
onlafor other things20:42
alkisgonla, put the whole output to pastebin; it might e.g. be pulling jack and wanting to uninstall pulseaudio etc20:43
Mr-FrogI've been trying to use gnome-software without success. Entering a query in the seachbar or clicking on the "Installed" or "Updates" tab just leads to  an infinite loading symbol.20:44
onlahttp://sprunge.us/YBCH20:44
onlai'm using wine-staging, but that's pretty much the whole wine20:44
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alkisgYeah it conflicts with libjack-jackd2-020:46
OerHeksMr-Frog, just be patient? or install synaptic, more detailed softwarecenter20:47
Mr-FrogIt has been loading for a good 15 minutes. I'll try synaptic20:47
onlaalkisg: do you know if there is some workaround that I don't need to uninstall bunch of stuff (and preferably not download 194MB)20:48
alkisgMr-Frog: I think you need to run apt-get update one time for it to work20:48
anddamwhat's this askubuntu answer doing with multi-user.target ?20:49
anddamhttp://askubuntu.com/a/7968220:49
alkisgonla: in my ubuntu-mate + stock wine,  libjack-jackd2-0 can be uninstalled by without anything else getting removed. Sorry I don't know about lubuntu/wine-staging20:49
k1l_anddam: mulltiusertarget is the extlogin20:51
k1l_*textlogin20:51
Mr-Frogsynaptic seems to work much better, thank you.20:52
OerHeksMr-Frog, have fun20:52
Mr-Frog:D20:52
onlaalkisg: oh ok. Here apt-get remove libjack-jackd2-0 wants to remove 262MB of things.20:52
thermosHi, I just made a bootable Ubuntu USB using Rufus, and it won't boot on either of my PCs.  Is there a common error here?  I followed the instructions carefully.20:53
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onlaoh lol, there is a linthesia package in repos20:54
nvdriversso there's no way to use ubuntu-desktop over vnc, i see people doing it on EC2 instances20:54
nvdriversthis is very strange20:54
nvdrivers?20:54
Bashing-omthermos: Did you verify the .iso integrity ( md5sum ) ?20:54
thermosno i did not20:55
bekksnvdrivers: there are ways, VNC is just horribly insecure.20:55
thermosi just d/l'd it from ubuntu site and ran Rufus20:55
bekksnvdrivers: Insecure. a mess when setting up, a mess when using it.20:55
nvdriverswhat alternatives are there?20:55
nvdriversthis is on a private network so security is not a huge issue20:56
bekksnvdrivers: x2go, as you've already been told.20:56
nvdriversi have been? sorry20:56
nvdrivershuge apologies, did not see that20:56
nvdriversthat can be used with ubuntu desktop?20:57
pavlosnvdrivers, I use nomachine for remote desktops20:57
thermosbashing-om:  how does one do that?20:57
nvdriverspavlos okay, thanks20:57
nvdriversx2go has a good windows client?20:58
Bashing-om!md5sum | thermos20:59
ubottuthermos: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM20:59
thermosthanks.  i will check that out.20:59
anddamk1l_: ah ok, from old sysvinit thought the multi user was runlevel 3 or the like20:59
anddamso "standard"20:59
OerHeksnvdrivers, it is all there , http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php21:00
anddamk1l_: so I was wrong disabling lightdm unit21:01
nvdriversthanks, i was there but hit a page where it wasn't so clear re windows21:01
anddamwhy the --force when enabling multi-user.target?21:01
k1l_if you want only konsole login, yes21:01
nvdriverslet's give this a shot21:01
k1l_no need to.21:01
anddamnot konsole, I'd like no Xorg at all21:02
anddambut you didn't mean KDE's konsole, did you?21:02
k1l_no, i didnt mean the kde program.21:03
OerHekskonsole/tty1/terminal21:03
Bashing-omanddam: Boot to terminal systemd ' systemd.unit=multi-user.target ' But then it is on you to enable any and all services that depend on the GUI that you need .21:03
anddamBashing-om: sorry, I didn't quite understand what you just wrote21:04
Bashing-omYa want to boot to terminal ( no GUI ) then ' systemd.unit=multi-user.target ' will do that . but many services will not be enabled .21:05
masmOn Ubuntu 16.04, I can't play any .mp4 files or any video file in Firefox. Whenever I try to open one, I get this and nothing else happens: http://i.imgur.com/FvYex2Vl.jpg21:06
masmCan someone tell me on how to play a mp4 file in the browser?21:06
anddamBashing-om: I don't get where shold I use ' systemd.unit=multi-user.target '21:06
masmI would appreciate it greatly21:06
anddamis that a kernel parameter?21:06
anddamshould*21:06
masmofcourse youtube and vimeo work fine21:06
k1l_anddam: yes. in the kernel line on grub21:06
masmbut a direct video file link does not play21:06
masmk1l_, can you help? you must know something21:07
OerHeksmasm, did you install restricted extras??21:07
masmOerHeks: ubuntu-restricted-extras?21:07
anddamk1l_: ah ok, is it any different than using set-default with systemctl?21:07
masmOerHeks: yes i have installed that and the ones for xubuntu as well. still no solution21:07
anddamBashing-om: ^21:07
k1l_no21:07
Bashing-omanddam: Oh . sorry .. boot to grub menu , 'e' key and edit the linux line . This what you have in mind ?21:07
anddamBashing-om: I want a permanent setup, set-default seems just fine21:07
anddamit's a headless home computer21:08
alkisgmasm: what's the output of `file /path/to/mp4` ?21:08
masmalkisg, literally that command or do i need to annex a mp4 file?21:08
alkisgPut the mp4 you're trying to play, there21:08
OerHeksmasm, then what is in that mp4? mp4 is just a container.21:08
masmalkisg: i don't have the mp4 on my system21:09
nvdrivershmm x2go wants to use plasma21:09
masmalkisg: firefox can't play them in the browser21:09
nvdriversi was hoping it would work with unity21:09
masmalkisg: all mp4s work in vlc21:09
nvdriversplasma did complain about opengl 2.021:09
alkisgmasm: I just wanted to see if it's a supported codec; you could download it if it's not too big21:09
masmalkisg: the problem is that firefox can't play .mp4 files, vlc and everything play them finely21:10
alkisgThey use different libgs21:10
alkisg*libs21:10
alkisgAnd my firefox can play my .mp4 files...21:10
alkisgSo I wanted to see what codec is your mp4 using...21:10
masmalkisg: this problem isn't just about mp421:11
masmany video format does not play in firefox21:11
masmi have installed restricted-extras but still no solution, could quicktime fix it?21:11
masmplease note that youtube and everything else works, its just that a direct link to some .mp4 or .avi does not work, firefox does not play it21:12
A1GardHi21:12
alkisgmasm: so, `firefox /path/to/avi` doesn't work for you, right?21:13
thermosthe MD5 sums are the same.21:13
masmalkisg, yes21:13
alkisgmasm, do you have any videos shipped by ubuntu? locate ogv | grep ogv$ | grep /usr/share21:14
masmalkisg: actually there's something called browser-plugin-vlc, let me install it and see what happens21:15
alkisgThe firefox support is embedded21:15
alkisgIt doesn't need vlc or anything to play videos...21:15
thermosbashing-om:  the checksum is good.21:17
tehmalGuys! I've problem... my Ubunty have virus "VIsta"... help,. https://s17.postimg.org/3z1fv1bcv/Zrzut_ekranu_z_2017_02_25_22_15_55.png21:17
alkisgthermos: are you currently in ubuntu?21:17
thermosno, windows 721:18
thermosi want to boot into ubuntu from a usb drive to fix a dead win7 installation and put an ubuntu partition on it.21:18
OerHekstehmal, and where should we look for you vista virus?21:18
alkisgthermos: OK, just wanted to tell you to quickly test the usb stick in a virtual environment, e.g. with kvm21:18
tehmalOerHeks: 42gb/45gb of "/" -.-21:19
masmOK alkisg looks like you were wrong, a simple installation of browser-plugin-vlc now plays all video files in the browser21:19
masmi should have googled more21:19
tehmali clear /var/logs and /temp but...not specialy help :>21:19
thermosdoes kvm work w/ windows?21:19
OerHekstehmal, so you call it a vista virus, funny21:19
A1Gardhi every body i have question about publish software in ubuntu offical repom21:20
alkisgmasm: nice, except that videos play fine here, and I don't have that plugin: $ dpkg -l browser-plugin-vlc  dpkg-query: no packages found matching browser-plugin-vlc21:20
A1Gardcan anyone help me?21:20
riadhhell21:20
tehmalOerHeks: yes, when im going to school at PCs was intall "W Vista" and usualy at "C:/" be... 2~3% free space21:20
tehmaland size of C:/ was exacly 45gb21:21
riadhquit21:21
riadhexit21:21
tehmalOerHeks: i typed sudo rm /var/logs/* -R && sudo rm /tmp/* but not help... only lose around 2-3 gig =C21:23
OerHeksuh oh, don't empty the log folder like that ...21:23
OerHeksnot all logs will be recreated.21:24
tehmalOerHeks: i do it wrong?21:24
OerHeksand removal of /tmp/,.. i have never done this in years. no need to.21:24
OerHekssudo apt autoremove # this should clean up stuff, and check your /home/  folder for big logs21:25
rond_Hello! Why if I do "export M2_HOME=/home/kamil/maven/apache-maven-3.3.9" having opened terminal in some directory and then open second terminal in another directory, then "echo $M2" prints nothing?21:25
tehmalOerHeks: izi... 400gb free at /home/... idk where are logs at home21:25
momkenrond_: echo $M2_HOME21:26
rond_momken: in another terminal then i've set it - prints nothing21:26
tehmalOerHeks: but why only 2gb is left ?!21:27
tehmalOerHeks: at Ubu partition?21:27
momkenIt won't in another terminal. Other terminal as another session21:27
momkenrond_: Except you define that export in bashrc or something similar21:27
transitbothas anyone installed remix os alongside ubuntu?21:28
thermosok, what would keep my bootable USB from being seen as bootable by 2 different computers?21:29
OerHekstehmal, hit ctrl + h for hidden files. if there are no big logs, idk.21:30
Xundreshi21:31
XundresHow can I create a tray icon for an app?21:31
Xundres(the app is whatsappweb)21:31
rond_momken: so: export ... works only for current session (terminal), if I want to make it persistent then i should modify the  /usr/environment file?21:33
alkisgthermos: when you insert the usb stick to your windows, do you see files like vmlinuz, syslinux etc inside it?21:33
alkisgthermos: also, the computers you're using now, are they uefi or legacy bios?21:33
momkenrond_: You can modify /etc/profile or /etc/bashrc or ~/.bashrc (if I remember correctly)21:34
papitohi, im new using ubuntu mate21:34
papitoand my mouse in teeworlds dont work, the pointer gets stuck at the left upper corner21:36
thermosalkisg, they are bios.  yes, such files are there21:36
momken_hi21:36
momkenhihi21:37
momken121:37
alkisgthermos: try using https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to directly burn the iso to the stick, without rufus21:39
thermosalkisg, ok, i will try that.  thanks.21:39
alkisgnp21:40
stratocastorNMHello everyone!!21:42
stratocastorNMAnyone here get folding at home working? 16.04?21:45
sphrakHi im having issues with link speed on my nic. all of a sudden I get this in dmesg: https://dpaste.de/g5sE#L and I have changed cables 3 times but it still occurs. ubuntu 16.04 lts21:45
sphrakim on kernel 4.4.0-64-generic21:46
stratocastorNMSo still occurs with all three other cables?21:48
stratocastorNMifconfig show errors?21:48
sphrakstratocastorNM: yes, at first I get 1000mbit/s then after a while its downgraded to 10021:49
stratocastorNMmade cables yourself?21:49
sphrak1 of them it self made, but the other two are factory made and they do work with my other computers at 1000mbit no problem21:49
alkisgDoes it happen with another kernel? E.g. an older one or a live cd?21:50
sphrakso I dont think its the cable tbh, because the only thing Ive changed lately is that I rebooted that computer yesterday to upgrade kernel. havent rebooted since 4th of feburary21:51
sphrakand then the issue came about21:51
sphrakalkisg: I havent tested that yet21:51
stratocastorNMcould you show us results of lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net21:52
stratocastorNMifconfig -a21:52
stratocastorNMcat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules21:52
stratocastorNMlsmod21:52
stratocastorNMcat /etc/network/interfaces21:52
stratocastorNMcat /etc/resolv.conf21:52
sphrakstratocastorNM: yes sir, gimmi a sec21:52
stratocastorNMtoo much to paste21:55
sphrakstratocastorNM: https://dpaste.de/sFxr#L1,6,33,36,164,182 there u go :)21:56
kekshey, i just installed 16.10 on a yoga 900. everything works great! can i enable two-finger scrolling on the touchscreen though? it already works on the touchpad21:59
keksunity's multitouch gestures work fine22:00
stratocastorNMwell shprak, taking a look through, but dont see anything obvious.. Just coneccting straigh to a switch? Or yet, whats the setup?22:01
stratocastorNMTry different ports?22:01
sphrakstratocastorNM: yes its directly to a HP ProCurve switch, ive tested other ports aswell but it acts the same im afraid -perhaps its dying on me haha22:02
stratocastorNMI'd hope not! but possibly..22:04
sphrakwell ill fiddle around some more, I have other NICs I can try with anyways so.. thanks for taking a look anyways :) if I find any thing significant ill report back22:05
momken_test122:05
momken_test222:06
sphrakmomken_: test322:06
momken_sphrak, :)) excuse me, I am just comparing Konversation with HexChat22:08
stratocastorNMcould only find one kind of reference to that sphrak http://serverfault.com/questions/585442/eth0-nic-link-is-down-repeating-message-in-kernel-log22:08
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sphrakstratocastorNM: hmm interesting im gonna read thru22:08
stratocastorNMsome other stuff to try sphrak https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217731422:10
stratocastorNMsorry, dont have a good answer!22:10
sphrakstratocastorNM: ah yes ive used ethtool to determine what link speed I get, I then disocvered dmesgs output hehe oh well22:11
stratocastorNMOh, you're far ahead of me then!!22:12
kekshey, i just installed 16.10 on a yoga 900. everything works great! can i enable two-finger scrolling on the touchscreen though? it already works on the touchpad and unity's multitouch gestures work fine on the screen22:17
keks(i hope asking again is okay after some time?)22:17
ikoniaI doubt it22:18
ikoniabut I don't oknw22:18
ikoniadon't know22:18
keksyeah i just realized that was only 15m22:18
keksi'll idle anyway, maybe ask again tomorrow22:18
ikoniathats fine22:19
ikonia15m is fine22:19
ikoniabut I mean I doubt you can do it on the touchscreen22:19
keksohh is see :)22:19
kekshm, too bad22:19
ikoniayou'll need to look at what xorg driver your touch screen can support22:19
ikoniaprobably none22:19
ikoniatouch screen on linux is quite a narrow window of supported devices,22:19
keksoh the touch screen works22:19
ikoniabut I don't know the full list22:19
ikoniakeks: thats a good start then22:19
ikoniayou just need to see if the driver it's using supports multi-touch,22:20
keksunity's multitouch gestures work fine22:20
ikoniathere maybe overlay software if it doesn't (I'm guessing)22:20
keksbut scrolling doesnt...22:20
c|onemanit's pretty amazing when I had a yoga, the touchscreen was great, and the trackpad was trash. HOw can they repeately put out lousy trackpads year after year, and then pull out a great touchscreen, relatively a new concept22:20
keksyeah the trackpad is annoying, feels like it sometimes randomly jumps22:21
momken_momken hi22:34
momken_momken, hi again22:35
momkenmomken_: hello22:36
k1l_momken:  momken_  there is #tests22:36
momken_k1l_, Ok. thanks22:36
momkenThanks, bye22:45
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kaosineha that was a good exit message XD22:55
z3useful defrag technique: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda22:59
RedPenguinHey all22:59
keksz3: you can make that more efficient using larger block sizes23:00
RedPenguinI am trying to find out, for SSL Certificates are they shared via various programs? I added an SSL cert and Chrome is working but ffmpeg, VLC, and others aren't23:00
keksRedPenguin: try copying it to /etc/ssl/certs23:01
RedPenguintried but so far everything but Chrome is saying SSL error23:03
RedPenguinI was given a p12 file which seems difficult to put on the Linux PC23:04
RedPenguinA Windows machine I tried the p12 file on took it immediately, it's just being more difficult on my Ubuntu23:05
KenLLHello.23:05
KenLLIt appears with the latest update that FULL RBG is enabled by default?23:05
KenLLCan anyone confirm?23:05
KenLLWhen I used to reboot I'd type: /usr/bin/xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"23:06
KenLLThe screen would go black and then come back with better colors.23:06
KenLLNow that line does nothing.23:06
KenLLAny devs in here?23:06
zeroraxhi23:08
RedPenguinunless I didn't make the crt file correctly23:08
pierre_hello everybody23:09
RedPenguinI am not really sure how to take a p12 that contains the Certs and Key together23:09
zeroraxI'm interested in completely rewriting unity without compositor or fancy effects, but recreating the same APIs and app programming methods for interacting with it. Would anyone be interested in helping with the project? I think there's no reason unity needs to use more than 10-15mb of ram23:09
KenLLIt appears with the latest update that FULL RBG is enabled by default?23:09
KenLLCan anyone confirm?23:09
KenLLWhen I used to reboot I'd type: /usr/bin/xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"23:09
KenLLNow that line does nothing.23:09
keksRedPenguin: hang on, gonna search for p1223:10
tgm4883!patience | KenLL23:10
ubottuKenLL: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/23:10
RedPenguinkeks: thanks, I did do a lot of Googling for myself but I think I have been doing it all wrong23:11
KenLLIs the Ubuntu Forum a better place to ask?23:11
KenLLI mean is the responsive better there?23:11
KenLLI thought the same devs would go there as here.23:11
k1l_KenLL: file a bug or ask an answer on launchpad.net23:12
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tgm4883KenLL: you could wait longer than 3 minutes before asking again. You could also check what updates you did and then look at the changelog23:12
KenLLI had big 145 MB update23:12
KenLLthat was the most recent one.23:12
tatertotsKenLL: you're saying that with HDMI the ones and zeros coming from the video source were dull and that you had to issue the above mentioned line to get satisfactory color reproduction?.....seems odd23:12
KenLLtatertots, I'm saying that I used to type that line every time I booted. The screen would go blank, then come back with much better colors.23:13
keksRedPenguin: so I found this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/403174/convert-pfx-to-cer23:13
KenLLThis line: /usr/bin/xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"23:13
KenLLNow when I type that nothing happens, so I wonder if it's being enabled by default since the latest update.23:13
keksdo that and put the .cer/.crt file to /etc/ssl/certs23:13
KenLLHow do I figure out which mode my xrandr is using?23:14
tatertotsKenLL: you can try to post in the forums but don't be surprised if the post grows dust and mold23:14
KenLLtatertots, How come?23:15
KenLLtatertots, How come I use HDMI2 instead of HDMI1?23:15
KenLLMy monitor has only 1 HDMI port.23:15
KenLLSo why is it using HDMI2?23:15
keksKenLL: xrandr --prop23:16
tgm4883KenLL: do you have 2 HDMI ports on your video card?23:16
KenLLAh, I'm using RBG Full.23:16
KenLLIt appears the latest Ubuntu update or kernel update has made it so that RGB FULL is being activated by default.23:16
KenLLI used to have to do this manually.23:16
KenLLNow what about why my monitor is using HDMI2 instead of HDMI1?23:16
KenLLIt has just the one HDMI port. My comp has only 1 HDMI port as well.23:17
tgm4883KenLL: maybe there is a second one that doesn't have a port on it?23:17
KenLLA second what?23:17
KenLL1 HDMI port on the monitor, 1 on the comp.23:17
prppedroKenLL: may be there's an onboard and another offboard23:17
tgm4883KenLL: HDMI port23:17
keksmaybe its only accessible through a docking station23:18
kekscould be a lot of things23:18
KenLLIt's pretty clear my comp has just 1 HDMI port, and the monitor has just one HDMI port.23:18
tgm4883KenLL: right, because video card manufactures have never just not added a second port in order to save money....23:18
keksKenLL: hang on, i'll check my crystal sphere23:19
* tgm4883 isn't sure why it matters23:19
KenLLtgm4883, My comp is an MSI Cubi. It has 1 displayport, 1 HDMI port.23:19
KenLLThat's all.23:19
prppedroKenLL: whatever your HDMI configuration is...23:19
KenLLIt has built-in Intel graphics.23:19
prppedroprobably there's nothing to do with your problem per se23:19
KenLLBut I feel I should be using HDMI1, not HDMI2.23:20
tgm4883KenLL: does your mini display port show up as HDMI?23:20
prppedroSometimes, my laptop onboard WLAN lists as wlan1 instead of wlan023:20
KenLLYou think that's mini display port is HDMI1?23:20
KenLLI'll try that display port. One moment.23:20
* tgm4883 shrugs23:20
tgm4883I don't think it really matters23:21
keksyeah it doesn't matter at all23:21
tatertotsKenLL: open terminal23:21
KenLLAny benefit to using mini display port to HDMI vs HDMI to HDMI?23:21
prppedrotgm4883: yep, chances are high it does not...23:21
tgm4883but you seem super interested in this, so I'm going to go back to knocking people out and hiding their bodies in dumpsters23:21
tatertotsKenLL: in terminal>    cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep Out|nc termbin.com 999923:21
tatertotsKenLL: press enter share url/link here23:22
KenLLtgm4883, I'm trying to maximize the clarity and colors of my screen experience.23:22
KenLLhttp://termbin.com/h3l923:22
KenLLHere is what it says.23:22
KenLLOutput HDMI2 using initial mode on pipe 0.23:23
KenLLIs that optimal?23:23
keksyes23:23
keksits perfect23:23
KenLLLike I say, I used to type RGB = FULL when I rebooted and it made a big difference. Since the latest update I don't notice any difference when I type that23:23
KenLLso I assume it's doing it automatically.23:23
KenLLkeks, http://termbin.com/h3l923:24
KenLLThere is the full result for your analysis.23:24
FManoff to bed - good night hacking away with your ubuntus!23:24
tatertotsKenLL: in terminal>    xrandr|nc termbin.com 999923:24
tatertotsKenLL: press enter share url/link here23:24
prppedroMy laptop says there's DP and HDMI despite there's none, really... So, may be your controller supports two HDMI ports, but there's only one wired to HDMI 2 slot23:25
keksKenLL: there is a way to run the HDMI protocol over displayport, maybe that is what HDMI1 is for23:25
keksbut it doesn't matter23:25
KenLLkeks, No idea.23:26
KenLLI just think it's strange that I have the only HDMI port on my computer hooked to the only HDMI on my monitor, and it shows as HDMI2.23:26
KenLLWhy does it say: Output HDMI2 has no monitor section23:27
KenLLbut then it says: Output HDMI2 using initial mode 1920x1080 on pipe 023:27
tatertotsKenLL: because it doesn't23:27
KenLLtatertots,  http://termbin.com/h3l923:27
KenLLsee here.23:27
KenLLIt says both those things.23:27
keksit sais HDMI1 has no monitor section because there is no monitor attached to HDMI123:27
tatertotsKenLL: and it really does not matter...these things to no work "linearly" like your thoughts23:27
KenLLBut also says HDMI2 has no monitor selection23:27
tatertotsKenLL: and it really does not matter...these things do not work "linearly" like your thoughts23:28
KenLLbefore it says the other line about pipe 0.23:28
KenLLtatertots, If you say so. So my setup is fairly common?23:28
tatertotsKenLL: so don't think to hard about it....it's doing it's job...it's job is to produce a picture for your eyes...and its doing just that23:28
keksits a monitor attached to a computer23:28
keksyes its common23:28
KenLLI'm not doing anything strange yet it's using HDMI2. However notice this output:23:28
KenLL http://termbin.com/h3l923:28
prppedroKenLL: What's the deal with your ~video experience~?23:29
KenLL12.162] (II) intel(0): Output HDMI2 has no monitor section23:29
KenLL12.162] (--) intel(0): Output HDMI2 using initial mode 1920x1080 on pipe 023:29
KenLLHow can it say both those things?23:29
keksyou posted that link like ten thousand times now. we've all seen it. its fine23:29
tatertotsKenLL: we've already seen http://termbin.com/h3l923:29
KenLLThey are mutually exclusive.23:29
tatertotsKenLL: if you're going to post links try the new one you've yet to post23:29
KenLLtatertots, Which new one?23:29
keksqed23:30
keksKenLL: I guess it first checks for config files and then plug and play devices23:30
tatertotsKenLL: in terminal>    xrandr|nc termbin.com 999923:31
keksthere are no config files ("no monitor section") and then it finds the monitor via pnp23:31
KenLLMy monitor is straining my eyes and giving me a mild headache. It may be the monitor, but I want to be assured I have things functioning 100%. Like I say, when I used to type RBG = FULL it made a huge difference. Now that seems to be enabled by default.. so it looks like someone at Ubuntu listened to my feedback.23:31
kekstake23:31
keksa23:31
kekswalk23:31
KenLLHere you are, tatertots:23:32
KenLLhttp://termbin.com/6blj23:32
KenLLAnything interesting here?23:32
keksi can't take it anymore23:32
prppedroKenLL, perhaps you should be more specific... It could be the refresh rate, but I highly doubt it. My bet is that you spend too much time in front of that screen...23:33
prppedroThe easiest thing to try is to swap your display, if possible.23:33
prppedroYou know, just to test...23:33
tatertotsKenLL: looks normal23:34
prppedroBut it's for sure unrelated with the position of your HDMI port, it's number or the lunar phase...23:34
KenLLprppedro, True, but like I say I used to type RBG = FULL and it made a huge difference. Before I figured that out I was using RGB = Limited without even knowing it. If I hadn't looked into things in great detail I'd never have known any better.23:34
KenLLI'd still be using Limited right now.23:34
KenLLNow it seems RBG = FULL is enabled by default in the very latest Ubuntu update package.23:35
tatertotsKenLL: you don't have to type that anymore...get over it23:35
onysKenLL, try redshift-gtk or redshift-gui to dim the blue channel a bit, it helps me a lot, also darker themes23:35
tatertotsKenLL: i used to have to hand crank my ford model "T" just to start the engine...my new car...i don't have to do that anymore23:36
KenLLtatertots, Yes, but changed only in the past day.23:36
KenLLRight up until today I always had to type RGB = FULL when I booted up or I'd be using Limited.23:36
tgm4883KenLL: if you switch it to limited and then back to full, does anything change?23:37
KenLLtgm4883, I tried now this:23:37
KenLL--> /usr/bin/xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Limited"23:37
KenLLBut this gives error messages and does nothing.23:37
KenLLThe magic line until today was this: /usr/bin/xrandr --output HDMI2 --set "Broadcast RGB" "Full"23:38
KenLLThat improved my colors about 3X.23:38
tatertotsKenLL: post in the forums and wait on replies23:38
tatertotsKenLL: you'd need expensive instruments to claim 3x...measuring and making a guess with human eye sight is far from scientific23:39
KenLLtatertots, It appears with the latest update not only is RGB = FULL enabed by default, but I can't make it "Limited" even if I tell it that in the command line.23:39
tgm4883KenLL: the error message would be helpful23:39
KenLLtgm4883, X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)23:39
prppedroKenLL: It's hard to tell, colour adjustment is something kinda personal... You should fiddle with the settings until you find a confortable point.23:39
KenLLtatertots, Just my guess to give you an idea of the magnitude of the improvement.23:40
KenLLI had literally been using my monitor for about 10 months on Limited mode because I didn't know any better.23:41
tgm4883KenLL: try "Limited 16:235"23:41
KenLLThat did it. This is how I was using my monitor for 10 months before I stumbled into RGB = Full.23:42
KenLLIt's much inferior.23:42
KenLLIt appears one of the devs in here listened to my feedback and made RGB = FULL the default.23:42
KenLLCongratulations on that.23:42
k1l_KenLL: so what changed? sometimes when you change versions commands do change.23:42
tgm4883KenLL: ok, so now it's worse when you set it to limited?23:42
KenLLtgm4883, Absolutely. I believe RGB = FULL is now the default in the very latest Ubuntu update.23:43
tgm4883KenLL: ok, so now do the full command again23:43
KenLLI specifically made this request. I didn't know any devs were listening in here.23:43
KenLLtgm4883, Yes, I put it back to Full.23:43
tgm4883and it's back to how it was before, it's not better?23:43
KenLLWhere is the Change Log for the Ubuntu updates?23:43
tgm4883honestly, it probably wasn't you asking in here about it. It was probably a bug fix in the automatic detection23:44
k1l_KenLL: there is no general changelog. they are noted for each package23:44
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KenLLI am in Broadcast RGB Full mode. I believe Automatic used to be the default.23:45
KenLLNow with the latest update it actually goes beyond Automatic and sets Full.23:45
KenLLThis is a big improvement because 80% of users have no idea they are using RGB = Limited.23:45
tgm4883KenLL: no, it's probably still automatic. Just that the automatic detection is working better on your hardware23:45
k1l_ok, so your issue is fixed. everything done23:46
tatertotsplease..make it stop23:46
KenLLk1l_, True, that part of the issue seems fixed though I'm still puzzled I'm using HDMI2 instead of HDMI1.23:46
KenLLBut I'm told that makes no difference.23:46
tgm4883OMG23:47
KenLLI'm going to reboot my machine and see if I start once again using RGB = Full without having to explicate it via command line.23:47
k1l_KenLL: i guess you dont plan to dig into technical code or technical details on how to build a a video card hardwarewise, so stay with the easy answer and be happy.23:48
KenLLk1l_, Like I say, for 10 months I was using RGB = Limited without even knowing it.23:48
KenLLI'm lucky I realized that or I'd still to this day be using Limited.23:48
k1l_KenLL: all the channel knows your story23:48
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tgm4883KenLL: have you tried adjusting your color profile yet?23:49
KenLLtgm4883, No. How do I do that?23:49
tgm4883https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/color.html I guess23:49
dejandhello, i have a one question about Landscape (https://landscape.canonical.com) i cannot find information about licencing and pricing. my question is, is it free for on-prem installation and are they any limitations. Also I dont quite get what's the difference between landscape and ubutnu advantage23:50
KenLLtgm4883, It says I need to go to System Settings + Color.23:52
KenLLBut I can't find that.23:52
tgm4883dejand: you have to call for pricing I believe. IIRC, up to 10 devices are free, but not on premise23:52
OerHeksdejand, scroll down.. 'get landscape .."23:52
tgm4883KenLL: you are using Unity?23:52
KenLLtgm4883, No, Mate.23:52
tgm4883FFS23:52
dejandthose links just redirect to me Ubuntu Advantage23:53
KenLLI asked in #ubuntu-mate just now, but there's only 80 users in there and it probably won't get a response.23:53
tgm4883KenLL: http://askubuntu.com/questions/629832/how-to-calibrate-monitor-in-ubuntu-mate23:54
KenLLI've now upgraded my Intel Graphics Stack23:54
KenLLIt's hard at work, so we'll see if this has anything to offer to me.23:55
KenLLNeed to reboot.23:55
KenLLI'll be back later.23:55
KenLLThanks for the expertise.23:55
coffeeguyhi am looking for a gmail webmail alternative with an ubuntu client?23:56
OerHekscoffeeguy, tons of free email services, not really an ubuntu support issue23:57
coffeeguyrecommend any?23:58
coffeeguytrue that it's not an ubuntu issue i'll ask in ##linux :)23:59
OerHeksHow about the mail service your provider gives you?23:59
dotscitcoffeeguy: find webclient that allows POP or IMAP. Whatever you prefer.23:59
zeroraxis there any window managers that have a menu that isn't a bar, but rather a floating window?23:59
zeroraxI know there WAS one 20 years ago23:59

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