| ali1234 | my best guess is some kind of crash if the fallback file isn't found due to user config error | 00:01 |
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| ali1234 | i'm basing that on it being an absolute path | 00:04 |
| ali1234 | nah, it's not that at all | 00:11 |
| bluesabre | Unit193, I also have access I believe | 01:33 |
| Unit193 | Wow, really? | 01:33 |
| bluesabre | yup, sure do | 01:35 |
| knome | :) | 01:35 |
| knome | how's SRU's? | 01:35 |
| bluesabre | knome, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/1512120/comments/84 | 01:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1512120 in thunar (Ubuntu Yakkety) "[SRU] thunar crashes on file renaming" [Undecided,In progress] | 01:36 |
| bluesabre | so, waiting | 01:36 |
| knome | mhm | 01:37 |
| Unit193 | Saw a mention in -devel, was..."nice" | 01:37 |
| bluesabre | nice in quotes sounds scary | 01:37 |
| knome | yes, tell us | 01:38 |
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| bluesabre | Gotta love how active xfce has been recently | 11:28 |
| Unit193 | Hmm, more to poke. | 11:29 |
| Unit193 | We can claim bugfix release at least. :D | 11:30 |
| flocculant | hi bluesabre Unit193 | 11:54 |
| bluesabre | hi flocculant Unit193 | 13:09 |
| flocculant | :) | 13:14 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: sorry about letting you flail about the interwebs looking for the release note :D | 13:15 |
| flocculant | pretty sure we had other updates - but I didn't have a great deal of time this week - so 'shrug' | 13:16 |
| bluesabre | flocculant, np :) | 13:47 |
| * flocculant is going to keep manifest from day 1 of aa so he knows what's really changed :D | 13:49 | |
| bluesabre | :D | 13:50 |
| * flocculant is going to somehow highlight light* too :p | 13:51 | |
| flocculant | anyway - off now - have a good day :) | 13:51 |
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| bluesabre | anybody able to reproduce this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parole/+bug/1667786 | 17:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1667786 in parole (Ubuntu) "Parole 0.9.0 crashes when skipping any video" [Undecided,New] | 17:28 |
| ali1234 | tried it virtualbox but it can't play videos at all there ("unable to initialize Xv output") | 17:52 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: crashes here opening a file, not getting as far as skippin,g sigabrt in g_assertion_message() | 18:05 |
| bluesabre | :\ | 18:05 |
| bluesabre | ali1234, yeah, Xv doesn't work in vbox, X is too resource heavy for vbox, clutter always seems up in the air in gtk land | 18:06 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: hang on - here - git was set to clutter - reset to (No Xv) - playing | 18:07 |
| flocculant | s/git/it | 18:07 |
| flocculant | though I do have the ppa version as well | 18:07 |
| bluesabre | >.< | 18:08 |
| flocculant | both not clutter options work here | 18:09 |
| flocculant | (still have the old 'some mkv' issue | 18:10 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: I see the protocol error etc in terminal - but it's not crashing when using either of the X Window options | 18:13 |
| bluesabre | flocculant, gotcha, I'll see what can be fixed with "new" clutter | 18:13 |
| flocculant | okey doke | 18:15 |
| ochosi | meh, lost quite a bit of history there. if anyone pinged me with something important, ping again... | 18:59 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: does parole, mugshot, menulibre, mousepad, catfish, all da settings sound like a sensible list of things we should regularly test rather than rely on use of them only | 18:59 |
| flocculant | hi ochosi - think the only thing I pinged about was fixed lightdm and the comment you made on that xfce nitify bug | 19:00 |
| bluesabre | flocculant, parole and mugshot should be tested a few times a cycle, too many other moving parts underneath that we can't trust them | 19:00 |
| bluesabre | menulibre, mousepad, catfish should be fairly reliable | 19:01 |
| bluesabre | but still tested with some frequency | 19:01 |
| bluesabre | I think use-only testing guarantees we miss things | 19:01 |
| ochosi | "too many other moving parts underneath that we can't trust them" == gstreamer? | 19:02 |
| bluesabre | gstreamer, clutter, kernelly things | 19:02 |
| bluesabre | h264 hardware decoding is kernel and gstreamer, same for camera support | 19:02 |
| bluesabre | and python/gtk integration breaks everything else I make | 19:03 |
| bluesabre | got parole to start with clutter after some hacking... back to broken | 19:04 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: hard to know what to do for the best tbh - cos any 'manufactured' test is going to miss things people might find during use | 19:04 |
| flocculant | do both - I guess :D | 19:04 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 19:05 |
| flocculant | and then there are 'some mkv' type things which I see, you don't but someone else might the day after we release :p | 19:05 |
| bluesabre | I think that if we have a healthy number of test files for a standard parole test suite, we'll be good | 19:05 |
| flocculant | still convinced that's some type of codec issue | 19:06 |
| bluesabre | I have one ogm file that can't skip forward, doing so restarts the video | 19:06 |
| bluesabre | tried some HVEC encoded videos today... they play, one frame every 30 seconds, both parole and totem | 19:06 |
| bluesabre | good news is that I am fixing other bugs as I try to fix these bugs :D | 19:07 |
| flocculant | that's going to feel infinitely worse than a complete fail to play - especially if you have to watch it all ... | 19:07 |
| flocculant | :) | 19:07 |
| flocculant | 90minute film at 120 frames per hour woohoo | 19:08 |
| bluesabre | :D | 19:08 |
| bluesabre | like the early days of 3d gaming on "family" computers | 19:08 |
| flocculant | I guess what we need is a list of things we know fail to play | 19:08 |
| bluesabre | it'd play... technically | 19:09 |
| flocculant | ha ha ha | 19:09 |
| bluesabre | The problem is that we usually can't share the trouble maker files, we find them in our own non-CC video libraries :\ | 19:09 |
| flocculant | mmm | 19:09 |
| bluesabre | I think I'll go ahead and disable clutter again for parole 0.9.1 and work towards a solution before 1.0 | 19:10 |
| flocculant | I found 'Rosa' that plays the files I can't play on either parole or totem | 19:11 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: ok | 19:11 |
| bluesabre | flocculant, that another gst player? | 19:13 |
| flocculant | https://sourceforge.net/projects/liteapps/files/ROSA%20Media%20Player/ | 19:13 |
| bluesabre | hm | 19:13 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: the biggest issue for me is I don't really watch things on here - I use the tv and openelec | 19:14 |
| flocculant | hence I don't catch them often | 19:14 |
| bluesabre | That's fair... I watch all of my videos online now, so don't see these frequently either | 19:15 |
| bluesabre | been using parole daily for podcasts recently, so been making a lot of improvements for those | 19:15 |
| bluesabre | figured out today that gstreamer can pull tags from remote files | 19:15 |
| bluesabre | https://git.xfce.org/apps/parole/commit/?id=1a952fe9b632969f5ecbdc4f783ae285959c435c :D | 19:15 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: what I do do regularly is check things I know work and/or don't work when I get updates through | 19:17 |
| flocculant | I did at one point comtemplate moving openelec back to 16.04 - but then I got that tv off losing signal issue - so reverted | 19:18 |
| bluesabre | you're also handy for "hey, here's a new thing, test this" | 19:18 |
| flocculant | ha ha - just doing my bit :D | 19:19 |
| flocculant | might have another try with that tomorrow | 19:20 |
| flocculant | might try dualbooting them - best option | 19:24 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: possibly another candidate for sru > bug 1308105 | 19:45 |
| ubottu | bug 1308105 in Mythbuntu "Xfce resets TV mode to NULL when power cycled" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308105 | 19:45 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: fyi - parole playing a file (that won't play here) on xenial using clutter without asking for any codecs | 20:38 |
| bluesabre | yay xenial | 20:39 |
| flocculant | oh - added the daily ppa - so have same parole version | 20:39 |
| flocculant | also checking out tv signal loss as I have that newer xfce4-settings | 20:40 |
| flocculant | now to see if I can add openelc to grub ... | 20:42 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: ok - so hopefully this will help catch these parole things - will try and default to xubuntu on the tv | 21:29 |
| flocculant | not getting the dead screen thing now seemingly - though perhaps I'll reserve the rright to change my mind after tv has been off for more than 30 minutes :p | 21:30 |
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