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| tyhicks | hello | 16:42 |
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| tyhicks | #startmeeting | 16:42 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Feb 27 16:42:07 2017 UTC. The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:42 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 16:42 |
| tyhicks | The meeting agenda can be found at: | 16:42 |
| tyhicks | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting | 16:42 |
| tyhicks | [TOPIC] Announcements | 16:42 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Announcements | ||
| tyhicks | Andreas Cadhalpun provided debdiffs for xenial and yakkety for ffmpeg (LP: #1664402 #1664403) | 16:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1664402 in ffmpeg (Ubuntu) "FFmpeg security fixes February 2017 (yakkety)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1664402 | 16:42 |
| tyhicks | Paul Gevers (elbrus) provided debdiffs for trusty and xenial for cacti (LP: #1663891) | 16:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1663891 in cacti (Ubuntu Trusty) "Security uploads for cacti (trusty and xenial)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1663891 | 16:42 |
| tyhicks | Brian Morton (rokclimb15) provided debdiffs for precise-yakkety for libssh2 (LP: #1664812) | 16:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1664812 in libssh2 (Ubuntu) "CVE-2016-0787" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1664812 | 16:42 |
| tyhicks | Gianfranco Costamagna (LocutusOfBorg) provided debdiffs for trusty-yakkety for tcpdump (LP: #1662177) | 16:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1662177 in tcpdump (Ubuntu) "tcpdump multiple CVEs" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1662177 | 16:42 |
| tyhicks | Thank you for your assistance in keeping Ubuntu users secure! :) | 16:42 |
| tyhicks | [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report | 16:42 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report | ||
| tyhicks | jdstrand: you're up | 16:42 |
| jdstrand | hi! | 16:42 |
| jdstrand | this week I plan to work on: | 16:43 |
| jdstrand | various snappy PR reviews (snap-confine, Personal, et al interfaces) and store reviews | 16:43 |
| jdstrand | review gsettings patches | 16:43 |
| jdstrand | various policy updates for 2.23 | 16:43 |
| jdstrand | that's it for me | 16:43 |
| jdstrand | continue seccomp arg filtering policy | 16:43 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: you're up | 16:43 |
| mdeslaur | I'm on community this week | 16:44 |
| mdeslaur | and I'm about to release tiff updates | 16:44 |
| mdeslaur | and I'll be going down the list | 16:44 |
| mdeslaur | that's about it, sbeattie, you're up | 16:44 |
| sbeattie | I'm on bug triage this week | 16:46 |
| sbeattie | I also have kernel signoffs to do. | 16:46 |
| sbeattie | after that, I'll also be focusing on updates | 16:46 |
| sbeattie | that's pretty much it for me. tyhicks, you're up | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | I'm on cve triage this week | 16:47 |
| tyhicks | I need to propose a bit of a design change for the seccomp kernel patches and send out revision 5 of the set | 16:48 |
| tyhicks | need to circle back to the apparmor utils patch set to fix something that cboltz requested and then send out revision 2 of the set | 16:48 |
| tyhicks | I have a design review to do | 16:49 |
| tyhicks | and right now I'm fighting with configuration issues on my new laptop so I need to spend a little time smoothing those out | 16:49 |
| tyhicks | that's it for me | 16:49 |
| tyhicks | jjohansen: you're up | 16:49 |
| jjohansen | I need to revise the gsetting patches based on review feedback, and send out the notification patchset so it can be reviewed | 16:49 |
| jjohansen | and I need to get back to upstreaming work, I am hoping to get an RFC out this week so I can do another pull request in a few weeks | 16:49 |
| jjohansen | oh and there some bugs, I need to follow up on. | 16:49 |
| jjohansen | that is it for me, sarnold | 16:51 |
| sarnold | I'm in the happy place this week; I'm going to release the shadow update, finish the lasso mir, AA patch reviews, and then move down the list of MIRs | 16:51 |
| sarnold | that's it for me, chrisccoulson? | 16:51 |
| chrisccoulson | I plan to get our firefox packages building with rust by the end of the week | 16:52 |
| chrisccoulson | I've also got to start preparing the next update, which is next week | 16:52 |
| chrisccoulson | Before I do that, I need to fix our menubar patch which currently makes it crash thanks to a late change in firefox | 16:52 |
| chrisccoulson | I also need to unbreak ubufox (bug 1648649) | 16:53 |
| ubottu | bug 1648649 in ubufox (Ubuntu) "Ubufox is broken in Firefox Nightly, due to using no-longer-supported "for each" syntax. Error console now shows "SyntaxError: missing ( after for UpdateNotifier.js:217:8"" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1648649 | 16:53 |
| chrisccoulson | Other than that, I've got 2 large code reviews to do for oxide | 16:53 |
| chrisccoulson | I suspect I might not get much else done this week | 16:53 |
| chrisccoulson | that's me done | 16:53 |
| ratliff | I'm in the happy place this week | 16:53 |
| ratliff | I'm still working on vivid updates for Core and Touch | 16:53 |
| ratliff | back to you, tyhicks | 16:54 |
| tyhicks | thanks! | 16:54 |
| tyhicks | [TOPIC] Highlighted packages | 16:54 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages | ||
| tyhicks | The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. | 16:54 |
| tyhicks | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. | 16:54 |
| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/php-openid.html | 16:54 |
| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/sleekxmpp.html | 16:54 |
| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/collectd.html | 16:54 |
| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/vxl.html | 16:54 |
| tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/libpdfbox-java.html | 16:54 |
| tyhicks | [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions | 16:54 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions | ||
| tyhicks | Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? | 16:54 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, I need to sponsor chromium too :) | 16:54 |
| tyhicks | ack | 16:56 |
| tyhicks | jdstrand, mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson, ratliff: Thanks! | 16:56 |
| tyhicks | #endmeeting | 16:56 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Feb 27 16:56:22 2017 UTC. | 16:56 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-02-27-16.42.moin.txt | 16:56 |
| ratliff | thank you, tyhicks! | 16:56 |
| mdeslaur | thanks tyhicks | 16:56 |
| jjohansen | thanks tyhicks | 16:56 |
| sarnold | thanks tyhicks :) | 16:57 |
| sbeattie | tyhicks: thanks1 | 17:01 |
| rbasak | o/ | 19:00 |
| rbasak | Who's here? | 19:00 |
| bdmurray | me | 19:00 |
| brookswarner | rbasak: i'm here but dont count | 19:01 |
| slashd | rbasak, few SEG fols are here today for the sru-uploader vote | 19:01 |
| slashd | folks | 19:01 |
| tinoco | o/ | 19:01 |
| * Mmike is here | 19:05 | |
| * ddstreet here too | 19:05 | |
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| rbasak | I know micahg_mobile might be having connectivity issues. | 19:06 |
| rbasak | But we still need one more additional DMB member for quorum. | 19:06 |
| slashd | rbasak, can we ping them on the channel to see if someone answer ? | 19:09 |
| bdmurray | They were pinded in #ubuntu-devel. | 19:10 |
| slashd | bdmurray, ack | 19:10 |
| slashd | tks | 19:10 |
| cyphermox | o/ | 19:13 |
| rbasak | OK we might have four if micahg_mobile manages to participate. | 19:14 |
| rbasak | He said he might be more able at 1930. | 19:14 |
| rbasak | Who's chairing? | 19:14 |
| micahg_mobile | Well, we can try | 19:14 |
| rbasak | #startmeeting DMB | 19:15 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Mon Feb 27 19:15:02 2017 UTC. The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 19:15 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 19:15 |
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| rbasak | #topic Review of previous action items | 19:15 |
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| chiluk | o/ | 19:15 |
| rbasak | cyphermox to handle Sean Davis' xfdashboard packageset request | 19:15 |
| rbasak | cyphermox to refresh Kubuntu packageset | 19:15 |
| rbasak | cyphermox: I think both of those are done? | 19:15 |
| cyphermox | both still todo, hopefully I can get to them later | 19:15 |
| rbasak | Oh, OK. | 19:15 |
| cyphermox | for now I'm fighting maas here. | 19:16 |
| rbasak | #action cyphermox to handle Sean Davis' xfdashboard packageset request (carried over) | 19:16 |
| meetingology | ACTION: cyphermox to handle Sean Davis' xfdashboard packageset request (carried over) | 19:16 |
| rbasak | #action cyphermox to refresh Kubuntu packageset (carried over) | 19:16 |
| meetingology | ACTION: cyphermox to refresh Kubuntu packageset (carried over) | 19:16 |
| rbasak | #topic Ubuntu Contributing Developer Applications | 19:16 |
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| rbasak | #subtopic Ross Gammon (rosco2) | 19:16 |
| rbasak | Rosco2: hello! | 19:16 |
| Rosco2 | Hi All | 19:16 |
| rbasak | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RossGammon/ContributingDeveloperApplication | 19:17 |
| rbasak | I reviewed Ross' previous application earlier. | 19:17 |
| rbasak | Looking for the link | 19:17 |
| rbasak | #link https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/08/01/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t15:21 | 19:18 |
| rbasak | Does anyone have any further questions for Rosco2? | 19:19 |
| micahg_mobile | I'm wondering what has changed | 19:19 |
| micahg_mobile | I see comments now, but I don't see any uploads past October | 19:20 |
| cyphermox | well, his last meeting was in august. | 19:20 |
| bdmurray | okay, but 3 uploads since august doesn't seem like enough to show significance. | 19:21 |
| micahg_mobile | 3 uploads in 6 months isn't significant and sustained contribution IMHO | 19:21 |
| Rosco2 | No uploads recently - but some waiting for sponsorship | 19:21 |
| cyphermox | I'm not saying it necessarily meets the guidelines, just that there exists uploads since last review. | 19:22 |
| micahg_mobile | Rosco2: you're also already an Ubuntu member, so this status won't confer any additional rights | 19:23 |
| rbasak | Rosco2: have you had any other development activity you can call out apart from uploads and uploads pending sponsorship? | 19:23 |
| Rosco2 | Well this year so far in Ubuntu has mainly been about releases | 19:24 |
| micahg_mobile | Not that Contributing dev isn't a nice badge of honor as well, but just wanted to point that out | 19:24 |
| Rosco2 | I have been ISO testing for point releases & Zesty Beta 1 | 19:24 |
| rbasak | I see 15 uploads in all and two in the sponsorship queue. | 19:25 |
| rbasak | Latest thing in the sponsorship queue is dated 21 Feb | 19:25 |
| Rosco2 | There are also a few backports that have gone stale that I need to get back to | 19:25 |
| rbasak | Any other questions for Rosco2? | 19:27 |
| rbasak | #vote Grant Rosco2 Contributing Developer | 19:28 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: Grant Rosco2 Contributing Developer | 19:28 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) | 19:28 |
| rbasak | +1 | 19:28 |
| meetingology | +1 received from rbasak | 19:28 |
| micahg_mobile | +1 | 19:28 |
| meetingology | +1 received from micahg_mobile | 19:28 |
| rbasak | I think the number of uploads, even if over a long period of time and not very dense currently, adds up to significant enough. I appreciate your contributions. | 19:29 |
| rbasak | Especially as Set, Timo and Daniel all appear happy with your work. | 19:29 |
| micahg_mobile | Ditto | 19:29 |
| Rosco2 | thanks | 19:29 |
| cyphermox | +12 | 19:30 |
| meetingology | +12 received from cyphermox | 19:30 |
| cyphermox | ugh | 19:30 |
| cyphermox | +1, obviously. | 19:30 |
| meetingology | +1, obviously. received from cyphermox | 19:30 |
| bdmurray | I guess I don't need to vote then | 19:30 |
| bdmurray | but I will anyway | 19:30 |
| bdmurray | +1 | 19:30 |
| meetingology | +1 received from bdmurray | 19:30 |
| rbasak | #endvote | 19:30 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: Grant Rosco2 Contributing Developer | 19:30 |
| meetingology | Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 19:30 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 19:30 |
| rbasak | Congratulations Rosco2 and thank you for your contributions. | 19:31 |
| rbasak | Can someone volunteer to sort that and announce it please? | 19:31 |
| Rosco2 | Your'e welcome. Tanks for your time everyone | 19:31 |
| rbasak | #action rbasak to add Rosco2 to the contributing developer team | 19:32 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to add Rosco2 to the contributing developer team | 19:32 |
| rbasak | #action rbasak to announce Rosco2's new contributing developer team membership | 19:32 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to announce Rosco2's new contributing developer team membership | 19:32 |
| rbasak | #topic SRU uploader proposal | 19:32 |
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| rbasak | #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2017-February/039690.html | 19:32 |
| rbasak | My position is a +1 already obviously. | 19:32 |
| bdmurray | rbasak: Do you expect people to already have some upload rights before applying to this new team? If so what kind? | 19:33 |
| rbasak | To the other board members: opinions? Objections? Anything I can address before a vote? | 19:33 |
| rbasak | bdmurray: no, I expect new members of this team to be uploading directly for the first time by joining it. | 19:33 |
| chiluk | rbasak that's why it's a great idea ^^ | 19:34 |
| rbasak | Right, as a stepping stone. | 19:34 |
| bdmurray | rbasak: directly uploading for the first time to main / restricted? | 19:34 |
| rbasak | bdmurry: yes. But in stable releases only, for things that meet SRU policy only. | 19:34 |
| sarnold | rbasak: as a member of the security team but not core-dev I've got similar privileges; it's a bit strange to have privileges to push updates to ~25M machines but not to check in changes to -devel. But it'd be far more annoying to have to go through patch piloting for every change.. | 19:34 |
| rbasak | bdmurray sorry :) | 19:34 |
| micahg_mobile | Sarnold, that was a loophole I meant to address several years ago :) | 19:35 |
| sarnold | micahg_mobile :) | 19:35 |
| bdmurray | I guess I have concerns as an SRU team member about keeping up with the volume of reviews. Its some what challenging as it is. | 19:35 |
| rbasak | bdmurray: I do expect the DMB to grant this only to applicants who have shown that they understand SRU policy and procedure by having a good track record of doing these things. And there would be a second sanity check through the SRU team anyway. But if there's any concern that an applicant will bother the SRU team, I'd expect that application to be refused. | 19:36 |
| chiluk | bdmurray.. .ubuntu-sru team would still have to approve the upload. | 19:36 |
| tinoco | bdmurray: it would be the same amount since our case load wouldn't change | 19:36 |
| bdmurray | tinoco: its not just a team for you though, anybody could apply to join it. | 19:36 |
| rbasak | bdmurray: it might also be reasonable to expect endorsements for the SRU team and refuse an application if there aren't any. I hadn't considered that before. | 19:36 |
| micahg_mobile | Bdmurray: I brought that up at the last meeting and was told the load would be the same | 19:36 |
| rbasak | micahg_mobile: yeah that's MHO. | 19:37 |
| tinoco | you can control the load with the amount of people you approve. controlling bottleneck in the sru team if needed. | 19:37 |
| rbasak | I don't see any reason why this would open the floodgates to the SRU team. | 19:37 |
| micahg_mobile | I can forsee such a case :) | 19:38 |
| rbasak | Currently the demand comes from Canonical STS who are getting their SRU requests sponsosred anyway | 19:38 |
| rbasak | Uploads under this scheme would either be acceptable to the SRU team, or not. | 19:39 |
| rbasak | If they're acceptable, then we should be taking them and growing the SRU team even if it does increase workload. Why should we be turning down good SRU contributions? | 19:39 |
| bdmurray | I don't think saying "we can't have more people in the team because the SRU team is overloaded" is fair | 19:39 |
| rbasak | If they're not acceptable, then I'm proposing that we don't grant membership of this team to such applicants. | 19:39 |
| micahg_mobile | Yeah, but once we compress the feedback window by eliminating sponsorship, there's the potential to start throwing more fixes in | 19:39 |
| rbasak | micahg_mobile: that's true, but that's a good thing surely? | 19:40 |
| bdmurray | Will there be a way for an SRU team member to request removal of somebody from the team? | 19:40 |
| rbasak | bdmurray: who do you think is saying that? | 19:40 |
| rbasak | request removal> I'm not sure the DMB has ever had to do that before, but if it came up, it would presumably be the DMB who would handle it. | 19:41 |
| rbasak | (and I think we have the remit) | 19:41 |
| bdmurray | tinoco said "you can control the load with the amount of people you approve" | 19:41 |
| rbasak | Ah, OK. | 19:41 |
| tinoco | bdmurray: totally agree on what you are saying | 19:41 |
| rbasak | I'd take a request to have someone removed from any uploading team quite seriously. | 19:42 |
| bdmurray | If there is a way for the SRU team to get people removed I'd feel better. Although the SRU team would need a way to keep track of rejections I guess. | 19:42 |
| rbasak | And perhaps the DMB should deal with that in private or something. | 19:42 |
| rbasak | But given the SRU team have to review everything anyway, it would make no sense for the DMB to refuse to remove someone the SRU team want removed. | 19:43 |
| rbasak | So how about: | 19:43 |
| rbasak | 1) We expect SRU team endorsement on any application. | 19:44 |
| rbasak | 2) The SRU team can ask for any SRU uploader to be removed. | 19:44 |
| rbasak | s/expect/require/ if you prefer. | 19:44 |
| rbasak | Whether the SRU team think any single SRU team member should be able to request removal, or it needs a majority, or what, could perhaps be entirely up to them. | 19:45 |
| rbasak | By "can ask for" I mean "the DMB will do it". | 19:46 |
| micahg_mobile | It should be either a majority of the SRU team or DMB votes (or both) | 19:46 |
| bdmurray | The SRU team is rather large so majority seems like a lot to me. | 19:47 |
| micahg_mobile | Ok, I just want some checks here | 19:47 |
| rbasak | Taking off my SRU team hat for a moment, I was thinking of leaving how they want to resolve their decision as up to them. | 19:47 |
| micahg_mobile | DMB vote is fine even if 1 person requests the DMB to review | 19:48 |
| rbasak | Let me write this down: http://pad.ubuntu.com/m9xRiL8pyP | 19:49 |
| rbasak | How does that look? Does that cover all options that have been proposed? | 19:52 |
| bdmurray | I don't think "requires" SRU team member endorsement is necessary. SRU sponsor would be fine. Its harder to find the SRU accepter than it is the SRU sponsor. | 19:53 |
| bdmurray | As an SRU team member I don't recall good uploads rather its the rejects I remember more. | 19:54 |
| bdmurray | I'd also like to see members of this ubuntu-sru-uploaders team not leave stuff languishing in -proposed. | 19:55 |
| bdmurray | The pending-sru report is full of sadness. | 19:55 |
| slashd | bdmurray, most of our work in STS requires to SRU to be Fix Release before we close the support ticket with customer | 19:56 |
| slashd | so it won't be a problem for us | 19:56 |
| chiluk | bdmurray, so that's an additional permission bit... promotion from -proposed -> -updates... are you proposing that ubuntu-sru-uploader have those rights? | 19:57 |
| bdmurray | chiluk: No, I'm saying verify your uploads if nobody else does. | 19:57 |
| tinoco | chiluk: i believe he said for us to verify things more quickly. | 19:57 |
| slashd | chiluk, I think he is talking about the verification-done step | 19:58 |
| micahg_mobile | I agree with bdmurray on the endoresements piece | 19:58 |
| micahg_mobile | And rbasak on how a member should be removed | 19:58 |
| slashd | bdmurray,rbasak, Does this potential sru-uploader team would be able to nominate bugs for release without approval ? | 19:59 |
| rbasak | slashd: I think that's a separate issue. | 19:59 |
| slashd | rbasak, ack | 19:59 |
| rbasak | And doesn't really fall under the DMB. | 19:59 |
| rbasak | It's a bug squad/bug control thing. | 20:00 |
| slashd | ok, disregard my last comment then | 20:00 |
| rbasak | We should still address that, but not at the DMB. | 20:00 |
| bdmurray | rbasak: it might just work with the acl | 20:00 |
| rbasak | I'm hoping so :) | 20:00 |
| rbasak | cyphermox: opinions? | 20:01 |
| chiluk | rbasak, i'm part of both bug control and bug squad teams, and don't have permission to approve nominated releases... | 20:01 |
| rbasak | chiluk: I'm aware :) | 20:01 |
| chiluk | rbasak do you know what team I'm missing? | 20:01 |
| rbasak | chiluk: I believe you get it if you can upload the package. | 20:01 |
| rbasak | But let's talk about that another time. | 20:01 |
| rbasak | Back to the pad | 20:02 |
| rbasak | For joining, I'm happy to not require 2 either. | 20:02 |
| bdmurray | upload the package or member of a special ubuntu-release-nominators team | 20:02 |
| micahg_mobile | Uploader rights for the package or there are two other teams I think, ubuntu-release and I thought we made one team that didn't have other rights attached to it | 20:03 |
| micahg_mobile | That's it | 20:03 |
| rbasak | bdmurray, micahg_mobile: how does the pad look for you now? Are you comfortable with what we have now? | 20:04 |
| bdmurray | Can we resolve line 1? | 20:04 |
| rbasak | Good point. | 20:04 |
| rbasak | I'm happy either way. | 20:05 |
| micahg_mobile | Yeah, I think it is fine | 20:05 |
| rbasak | I guess that means I say "expected". | 20:05 |
| rbasak | But if someone wants to tighten it to "requires" I'm fine with that. | 20:06 |
| bdmurray | That's what I expect | 20:06 |
| rbasak | Now that's a confusing statement :-) | 20:06 |
| rbasak | You expect someone to tigthen it to "requires"? :-P | 20:06 |
| bdmurray | I expect it to say excpet not requires | 20:06 |
| rbasak | OK I'll change it. | 20:07 |
| rbasak | And let me take out 2, since we seem to have some consensus it isn't required. | 20:07 |
| rbasak | cyphermox: ? | 20:09 |
| cyphermox | sorry, I'm busy | 20:10 |
| rbasak | OK | 20:11 |
| rbasak | micahg_mobile, bdmurray: are you +1 on the current pad? | 20:12 |
| bdmurray | yes | 20:12 |
| micahg_mobile | Yes | 20:13 |
| rbasak | Great, thanks! I guess there's no need for a formal meetingology vote for the sake of it. | 20:13 |
| rbasak | We'll need one more +1. | 20:13 |
| rbasak | Shall we move on and let the others vote offline? | 20:13 |
| rbasak | I will copy the pad, clean up and post it to the thread. | 20:14 |
| micahg_mobile | Rbasak: Shows up in the meeting logs as a vote :) | 20:14 |
| rbasak | #topic Expiring DMB members | 20:14 |
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| micahg_mobile | Can we change members to membership please? | 20:15 |
| rbasak | micahg_mobile: you mean line 11 | 20:15 |
| rbasak | ? | 20:15 |
| micahg_mobile | Current topic :) | 20:15 |
| rbasak | #topic Expiring DMB membership | 20:16 |
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| rbasak | cyphermox pointed out that his membership expires soon | 20:16 |
| rbasak | 2015-03-02 | 20:16 |
| cyphermox | yep, in 4 days | 20:16 |
| cyphermox | FWIW, +1 on the SRU proposal from me | 20:16 |
| rbasak | Oh great, thanks. Then it's done :) | 20:16 |
| rbasak | \o/ | 20:16 |
| rbasak | s/2015-03-02/2017-03-01/ | 20:17 |
| cyphermox | ... or less than four days | 20:17 |
| rbasak | Yeah, so we need to organise nominations and a vote for cyphermox's seat, right? | 20:17 |
| rbasak | cyphermox: are you intending to stand again? | 20:17 |
| micahg_mobile | I think the first thing would be to ask the TB to extend cyphermox's membership 4 weeks so we can hold an election | 20:17 |
| cyphermox | rbasak: I'm not sure. | 20:17 |
| rbasak | micahg_mobile: that sounds reasonable. Everyone happy with that? | 20:18 |
| bdmurray | +1 for the extension | 20:18 |
| bdmurray | Doesn't Adam expire this year too? | 20:18 |
| rbasak | #agreed The DMB will ask the TB to extend cyphermox's membership 4 weeks so we can hold an election | 20:19 |
| rbasak | Yes, 2017-08-03 | 20:19 |
| rbasak | Should we hold an election early for that seat too, or wait? | 20:19 |
| cyphermox | ask infinity? | 20:19 |
| bdmurray | I guess it is 5 months | 20:19 |
| micahg_mobile | His membership expires in August, we could seek 2 now and have the second one's term start in August | 20:19 |
| rbasak | I'm fine either way | 20:20 |
| rbasak | Also, would it be an idea to adjust term lengths to get those two seats lined up? | 20:20 |
| bdmurray | Are we excluding anybody by holding the election early? | 20:20 |
| rbasak | Just to save admin in the future. I don't think anyone will care about the length adjustments, will they? | 20:20 |
| micahg_mobile | 18 months or so for the second one I guess | 20:21 |
| rbasak | Yeah that sounds right | 20:22 |
| rbasak | OK so two things | 20:22 |
| rbasak | 1) Hold an election for infinity's seat now, together with cyphermox's seat. | 20:23 |
| rbasak | 2) Shorten infinity's seat's next term to coincide expiry with cyphermox's seat's next term. | 20:23 |
| rbasak | Presumably we'd hold the usual ranked CIVS thing and give the top result the longer immediate seat, and the second result the shorter delayed seat? | 20:24 |
| rbasak | Everyone happy with that? | 20:24 |
| bdmurray | 0) ask for extension for cyphermox | 20:24 |
| rbasak | Yep | 20:25 |
| * rbasak minuted that already :) | 20:25 | |
| rbasak | I thought that was uncontroversial :) | 20:25 |
| bdmurray | okay | 20:26 |
| rbasak | cyphermox? micahg_mobile? | 20:26 |
| cyphermox | heh, either way is fine by me | 20:27 |
| slashd | rbasak, with regard to the sru-uploader team ... what are the next steps ? Do you guys need more votes or we can already say it is officially approved ? | 20:29 |
| slashd | and when do you think ppl can start applying for this new team ? | 20:32 |
| rbasak | slashd: I'll sort it on the mailing list afterwards. | 20:33 |
| slashd | rbasak perfect, tks | 20:33 |
| slashd | tks all for your time about this subject | 20:33 |
| micahg_mobile | Rbasak, I'm good with that | 20:35 |
| rbasak | Great, thanks! | 20:36 |
| rbasak | Any volunteers to sort it out? | 20:36 |
| bdmurray | which thing? | 20:38 |
| bdmurray | If its the SRU team thing could we break up the tasks? | 20:38 |
| rbasak | The three things - extending cyphermox's term, organising the vote, announcing the adjustment of terms, etc. | 20:38 |
| rbasak | I'm happy to take sorting out the SRU team thing. | 20:39 |
| bdmurray | I guess we can't make cyphermox do it | 20:39 |
| bdmurray | So I'll do it | 20:39 |
| rbasak | Thank you! | 20:40 |
| rbasak | #action bdmurray to sort out votes and related items in respect of the two upcoming expiring DMB memberships | 20:41 |
| rbasak | #action rbasak to sort out the SRU uploaders team | 20:41 |
| meetingology | ACTION: bdmurray to sort out votes and related items in respect of the two upcoming expiring DMB memberships | 20:41 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to sort out the SRU uploaders team | 20:41 |
| rbasak | #topic Any other business | 20:41 |
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| rbasak | Anything else to raise? | 20:41 |
| chiluk | rbasak.. my core dev application status? | 20:41 |
| rbasak | Let me check. | 20:41 |
| chiluk | thanks. | 20:42 |
| bdmurray | I may have replied privately not publicly. | 20:42 |
| rbasak | So there was no vote from anyone at the IRC meeting, correct? | 20:43 |
| chiluk | rbasak not that I recall ... | 20:44 |
| micahg_mobile | I'm sorry, I thought that was addressed in the last meeting, but I don't remember the conclusion | 20:44 |
| rbasak | I count +1s from sil2100, BenC and cyphermox. | 20:45 |
| rbasak | bdmurray: I don't see a private or public vote from you, nor from Adam. | 20:46 |
| bdmurray | rbasak: looking | 20:46 |
| rbasak | And I had deferred for the ~ubuntu-sru-uploader topic. Now that is resolved, I need to look again, but I suspect the reason I did that was because I felt that would be more appropriate. | 20:46 |
| rbasak | But I'll give myself an action to look again properly. | 20:46 |
| bdmurray | I see a sent mail about it | 20:47 |
| rbasak | #action rbasak to vote on chiluk's core dev application | 20:49 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to vote on chiluk's core dev application | 20:49 |
| bdmurray | resent it | 20:49 |
| rbasak | Ah | 20:50 |
| rbasak | I see it. | 20:50 |
| rbasak | In that case, I don't need to do anything :) | 20:50 |
| rbasak | #undo | 20:50 |
| meetingology | Removing item from minutes: ACTION | 20:50 |
| rbasak | chiluk: congratulations :) | 20:50 |
| chiluk | WOOHOO! | 20:50 |
| chiluk | thanks guys. | 20:50 |
| rbasak | Now this one we _can_ give to cyphermox :-) | 20:51 |
| rbasak | #action cyphermox to add chiluk's core dev membership | 20:51 |
| meetingology | ACTION: cyphermox to add chiluk's core dev membership | 20:51 |
| rbasak | #action cyphermox to announce chiluk's core dev membership | 20:51 |
| meetingology | ACTION: cyphermox to announce chiluk's core dev membership | 20:51 |
| rbasak | cyphermox: seems only fair as bdmurray is handling your seat :-) | 20:51 |
| rbasak | OK. AOAOB? | 20:51 |
| rbasak | I guess we're done then! | 20:52 |
| rbasak | Thank you all for your patience. Long meeting! | 20:52 |
| rbasak | #endmeeting | 20:52 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Feb 27 20:52:29 2017 UTC. | 20:52 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-02-27-19.15.moin.txt | 20:52 |
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