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[12:56] <cult-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libodb/+bug/1588330
[14:09] <cult-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libodb/+bug/1588330
[14:23] <apw> cult-, we saw it the first time ...
[14:23] <cult-> :-)
[14:23] <apw> xnox, that block of libodb stuff ... why are those needing to be in lockstep, if they are why does that not affect anyone consuming them
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[15:35] <xnox> apw, so there is c++ abi change; the old libodb is compatible with everything but the -mysql is the bug we are trying to fix
[15:35] <xnox> however the new libodb-* are incompatible with the old libodb
[15:36] <xnox> and the new libodb is incompatible with the old libodb-[!mysql]
[15:36] <apw> xnox, rigth but after we accpet this pile is any user of libodb in trouble
[15:36] <xnox> thus one should release all of them as one pile.
[15:36] <xnox> apw, i guess i should have had Breaks: libodb-[!mysql] << old in libodb
[15:36] <apw> xnox, but what about anyone already built
[15:37] <xnox> anyone who used libodb-mysql is screwed =) until one full-upgrades
[15:37] <xnox> anyone who uses xenial-release compiler cannot use libodb*
[15:38] <xnox> one can only use pre xenial compiler with xenial libodb stack, sans mysql.
[15:38] <apw> xnox, and is the working compiler in -security
[15:38] <xnox> it's very broken, as the default xenial compiler cannot compile/link anything against libodb*
[15:38] <xnox> compiler from xenial-release (and updates, and security) defaults to the new abi
[15:39] <xnox> libodb in release was lask built in pre-xenial
[15:39] <xnox> libodb in xenial-release was lask built in pre-xenial
[15:39] <cult-> currebt libodb binaries without this bugfix, are completely unusable. this bugfix is very much needed to use this library. they were broken since release.
[15:39] <cult-> no one is using the original binaries because they are broken.
[15:39] <xnox> apw, basically debian did binNMUs to transition them to c++11 abi; and we didn't.
[15:40] <apw> xnox, ok so the accurate statement is anything using it is broken, ie not using it as it is
[15:40] <xnox> API is not changed, only ABI broken via 3rd party packages.
[15:40] <xnox> apw, right everything is broken in libodb* stack =)
[15:41] <apw> xnox, and they are clearly heavily used in that case, being broken for so long, ugg
[15:44] <cult-> the maintainer messed it up after a request to link against proper mysql dependencies, he missed the abi differences.. poor man.
[15:45] <xnox> apw, well debian simply did binNMUs and we missed that.
[15:46] <apw> xnox, can you pm me the list of package which must be in lock-step pls
[15:49] <xnox> apw, it's all in the bug. but ok.
[15:49] <xnox> (it's one bug)
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[16:49] <cult-> apw: is the fix released happens instantly or some hours until it appears in repo?
[16:53] <apw> cult-, modulo the time it takes the publisher, i would expect it to be out around now
[16:53] <apw> cult-, and potentially modulo mirroring delays depending which mirror you use
[16:56] <cult-> yeah i can't see it yet
[17:09] <cult-> finally
[17:09] <cult-> thanks a lot!
[17:15] <cult-> btw, are you going to close the bug report?
[17:17] <ginggs> cult-: it's marked 'Fix Released' for all series, it is closed
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[17:24] <apw> cult-, it gets closed as the binaries publish
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[17:49] <cult-> fine
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