[00:00] <Error|404> Hi all
[00:04] <egonsen_> ubuntu boots into the black screen where i can enter my credentials rather than starting lightdm. when i login and do "$ sudo systemctl start lightdm", the graphical environment opens and everything is fine. why doesn't ubuntu boot into the graphical environment by itself?
[00:07] <Dragon64> egosen -- check the following for references to lightdm /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[00:08] <Dragon64> should see something like /usr/sbin/lightdm
[00:14] <tgm4883> Dragon64: he's gone. He waiting less than 1 minute for an answer
[00:15] <Dragon64> good things come to those who wait
[00:16] <Dragon64> and sometimes beer
[00:43] <SemiNus> hi
[00:44] <SemiNus> I rented a virtual server with Ubuntu as Operating System
[00:44] <SemiNus> the FTP server is "proftpd" and my ftp client is "filezilla"
[00:44] <SemiNus> how can I find out, why files wait some time before they even start uploading?
[00:45] <SemiNus> sometimes it takes 10 seconds (sometimes way longer) until they _start_ uploading
[00:45] <tgm4883> SemiNus: not an answer to your question, but use SFTP instead of FTP
[00:45] <SemiNus> is that faster or only more secure?
[00:46] <tgm4883> more secure
[00:47] <Ben64> it might start instantly
[00:48] <SemiNus> how would I use sftp with filezilla+proftpd?
[00:49] <Ben64> you don't
[00:49] <Ben64> you use a client that can do sftp (filezilla might) and the server is ssh
[00:49] <tgm4883> filezilla supports SFTP
[00:54] <SemiNus> I am sorry!!  I had to unplug my pc as my screen freezed
[00:57] <tgm4883> SemiNus: Filezilla supports SFTP and SSH would be the server.
[00:59] <SemiNus> ssh is running on the server
[00:59] <SemiNus> I had to create a system user so that proftpd can give access
[01:00] <tgm4883> SemiNus: how many people need access?
[01:00] <SemiNus> 1
[01:00] <SemiNus> me
[01:00] <Ben64> one of the many good things about sftp is that it 'just works' with users
[01:00] <tgm4883> SemiNus: Then I'd just forget about proftpd
[01:01] <tgm4883> I'd forget about it with more than 1 user too
[01:01] <SemiNus> how comes?
[01:01] <Ben64> ftp is ancient and bad
[01:01] <SemiNus> I thought this was more the less the standard?
[01:01] <tgm4883> SemiNus: if you have SSH working, then you already have SFTP working
[01:01] <tgm4883> SemiNus: FTP is bad
[01:01] <tgm4883> SemiNus: it's the standard way to pass your credentials in plaintext
[01:02] <fr13nd1> guys.. i need the name.. need your name
[01:02] <fr13nd1> need a name*
[01:02] <bazhang> fr13nd1, this is ubuntu support
[01:02] <fr13nd1> i need help
[01:02] <tgm4883> SemiNus: I can't think of a single reason to use FTP over SFTP
[01:02] <fr13nd1> can you?
[01:02] <bazhang> fr13nd1, then ask
[01:03] <SemiNus> ok then I will use sftp
[01:03] <fr13nd1> spanish?
[01:03] <bazhang> #ubuntu-es fr13nd1
[01:03] <fr13nd1> necesito investigar un nombre
[01:03] <tgm4883> !es | fr13nd1
[01:03] <tgm4883> SemiNus: good call
[01:04] <fr13nd1> thanks
[01:13] <SemiNus> tgm4883?
[01:13] <tgm4883> yes?...
[01:13] <SemiNus> please tell me how I can tell filezilla to connect via sftp rather than to proftod
[01:13] <SemiNus> *proftpd
[01:13] <tgm4883> SemiNus: use port 22
[01:14] <SemiNus> that's all?  wait
[01:16] <SemiNus> tgm4883, that works AWESOME!!!!
[01:16] <pennTeller> guys does anybody know if its possible to hide the bootup text in ubuntu?
[01:16] <SemiNus> tgm4883, that's faster! way faster!
[01:17] <tgm4883> SemiNus: and secure too :)
[01:17] <SemiNus> why do all the providers use proftpd then?
[01:17] <SemiNus> and ftp at all?
[01:18] <SemiNus> that seems to be the #1 way to transfer files?
[01:18] <tgm4883> SemiNus: IDK, maybe they don't know what they are doing?
[01:18] <SemiNus> like me ^.^
[01:19] <Ben64> all the providers? nah
[01:21] <Bashing-om> pennTeller: In the desktop  install that is the defaukt . Have you changed " GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" " kine in the /etc/default/grub file ?
[01:25] <raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
[01:25] <azizLIGHT> hi again
[01:26] <azizLIGHT> i have encountered an issue while trying to upgrade to HWE stack, while on 14.04.5 x64 LTS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24070775/ then i did ' sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-xenial_11.2.0-1ubuntu2~trusty1_amd64.deb ' successfully: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24075194/ and then tried to do the HWE stack multiarch command again but this happend:
[01:26] <azizLIGHT> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24075210/ ... so how do i go about fixing all this so i can get HWE?
[01:27] <azizLIGHT> more background info: i attempted to do the same HWE stack multiarch command earlier but had xorg-edgers ppa installed and it replaced xorg packages with ppa versions of them instead of ubuntu repo versions, and it also ended up removing a bunch of my packages. i fixed all of that with the help of eric and bashing-omm and was able to restore all packges back to ubuntu repo versions, reinstallled all packages
[01:27] <azizLIGHT> that were removed, ppa-purged all traces of xorg-edgers ppa, did ' sudo apt-get autoclean ; sudo apt-get autoremove ; sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg --configure -a ; sudo dpkg -C ' successfully and was generally in a good spot (was able to boot successfully to gui after reboot) that i thought i could re-attempt the HWE stack upgrade. but now i have
[01:27] <azizLIGHT> this above isssue in the pastebin where some packages have been removed, and some installed and some dependency issues happening. im in limbo with the command partially complete and partially incomplete. how should i proceed? should i undo the HWE stack package installs and reinstall my packages with old versions? should i push forward and try to fully upgrade to HWE? i have not shut down my computer or
[01:27] <azizLIGHT> rebooted since I attempted that command.
[01:27] <pennTeller> Bashing-om, thanks for the tip I will try that
[01:29] <pennTeller> Bashing-om, my install already has "quiet splash nomodeset" but I still see the logo and some text on boot/shutdown/restart
[01:29] <Bashing-om> pennTeller: That ^ is default . If you change the grub file remember to run ' sudo update-grub ' to propagate the change .
[01:30] <pennTeller> Bashing-om, what im saying is that it was already setup as: "quiet splash nomodeset"
[01:30] <pennTeller> Bashing-om, do you think I should still change something?
[01:30] <Bashing-om> pennTeller: Why nomodeset ? As that parameter defeats Kernel Mode Setting .
[01:31] <pennTeller> Bashing-om, once I had to add that for my nvidia graphics card to work, I can remove it if needed
[01:32] <Bashing-om> pennTeller: Once the nvidia driver is installed, that parameter will only interfere .
[01:32] <pennTeller> Bashing-om, ok let me remove it and restart, I will report back once im back online
[01:33] <adie_> hi
[01:33] <Bashing-om> pennTeller: K, ' sudo update-grub '  after the file is saved .
[01:33] <pennTeller> Bashing-om, yes on it
[01:33] <adie_> I have a very vague problem... but my ubuntu desktop performance is just terrible.
[01:34] <Azure_Chaos> so how is kde now in 16.04? is it still broken?
[01:34] <cfhowlett> adie_, don't be vague.  ask your questions
[01:34] <adie_> I don't know what my questions are...
[01:34] <adie_> does xorg have problem with high resolution or something? idk what the problem is
[01:34] <dureya>  hello, I am setting up an ubuntu server for the first time and am fairly new to this. Currently I think I have downloaded it right, but when I do "sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade" it throws a few errors, 1: xenial-security inRelease temp failure resolving 'security.ubuntu.com', 2: xenial inRelease along with the same temp failure msg, 3: xenial-updates inRelease, 4: xenial-backports inRelease. this laptop has a working wifi
[01:34] <dureya> card but when I connect via ethernet, it still wont connect to the net :(
[01:34] <cfhowlett> dureya, ask #ubuntu-server
[01:35] <dureya> cfhowlett, already did, just waiting for someone to answer. Hoped I could get a quicker answer here.
[01:36] <adie_> according to the system monitor, I have high CPU usage, but it's not showing any processes using more than 4%
[01:36] <DarkMatter33> :)
[01:36] <Bashing-om> adie_: How much ram is installed on that box ? unity takes some hosses to run well .
[01:37] <adie_> I've got 16GB of ram, 4GB of VRAM on a GTX 980, and I'm running on an i5
[01:37] <adie_> using nearly 40% on all cores
[01:37] <adie_> but, no processes using more then 3-4%
[01:37] <tgm4883> adie_: what resolution? Do you have the prop drivers installed?
[01:37] <adie_> I installed the restricted nvidias drivers.
[01:38] <adie_> I'm running four monitors, one of which is 4k
[01:38] <Bashing-om> adie_: :) should have no difficulties .
[01:38] <adie_> I'm using firefox, and with like 4 or 5 tabs open, it becomes so slow that I can't even highlight text anymore
[01:39] <DarkMatter33> :ooo
[01:40] <cfhowlett> adie_, on the chance that it is something as simple as the Desktop environment: an experiment: sudo apt install lxde.   logout, choose LXDE session, login.  if your performance improves measurably, suspect unity issues.
[01:40] <pennTeller> Bashing-om, I can confirm that the system behaves the same after updating grub and restarting
[01:40] <tgm4883> adie_: also, if the problem is reproducible, could try removing some of those monitors
[01:41] <adie_> also, my frickin' desktop tears
[01:41] <adie_> That's just
[01:41] <adie_> com on, ya know?
[01:43] <Bashing-om> pennTeller: Sorry, I know of nothing else that effects the boot/shutdown messages .
[01:43] <pennTeller> Bashing-om, thanks for your help my friend
[01:44] <azizLIGHT> feelin up to help me with my HWE problems Bashing-om ?
[01:45] <Bashing-om> pennTeller: Well, no help .. but I did give it my shot .
[01:45] <pennTeller> :)
[01:46] <adie_> ;/
[01:46] <adie_> hi I have a question
[01:46] <cfhowlett> adie_, did you try my experiment?
[01:46] <adie_> I opened a fullscreen game with wine, and it's not working
[01:46] <adie_> and now I can't figure out how to kill it
[01:47] <adie_> cuz it's just a black screen
[01:47] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: I have no idea how to fix it - I did look - . Question, why re-install HWE when we worked so long and hard to remove it ?
[01:47] <adie_> cfhowlett, no not yet
[01:47] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: we removed it because of the interference of xorg-edgers ppa
[01:47] <azizLIGHT> once xorg-edgers ppa was obliterated, it was supposed to be safe for me to go HWE
[01:47] <Soul_Sample> adie_: try running "wineserver -k" from the terminal
[01:47] <Soul_Sample> adie_: that should kill wine and all running apps
[01:48] <adie_> it didn't :C
[01:48] <Soul_Sample> adie_: then run "top" and see what is the PID of the game and kill it by typing "kill <PID>"
[01:49] <Soul_Sample> adie_: if it still won't die, run "kill -9 <PID>"
[01:50] <Soul_Sample> adie_: as far as your system performance goes, are you sure that nvidia drivers installed correctly?
[01:50] <adie_> well I went to the "restricted drivers" window and clicked "enable"
[01:50] <adie_> so, knowing ubuntu, probably not
[01:51]  * adie_ makes snarky comment at the expense of the OS
[01:51] <Soul_Sample> adie_: can you find nvidia-settings in your dash?
[01:51] <adie_> yes
[01:51] <Soul_Sample> if you run it, does it display any errors?
[01:51] <adie_> nope, works fine
[01:51] <Soul_Sample> adie_: which driver version do you have?
[01:52] <adie_> 367.57
[01:52] <dureya> anyone here work with ubuntu server?
[01:53] <Soul_Sample> adie_: well I'd recommend trying a newer version of the driver, and also trying a different desktop as cfhowlett suggested
[01:54] <Soul_Sample> adie_: adie_ I use this repository http://www.webupd8.org/2016/06/how-to-install-latest-nvidia-drivers-in.html and am currently running 378, works splendidly
[02:07] <cfhowlett> ping!
[02:07] <cfhowlett> !ping
[02:09] <adymitruk> dell xps 13 battery life on linux 4.10 http://i.imgur.com/d812qDY.png
[02:10] <OerHeks> 4.10 what?
[02:10] <OerHeks> kernel?
[02:11] <X_> how to fix GDBus error :O
[02:12] <OerHeks> !details
[02:13] <adymitruk> OerHeks: yup
[02:14] <limbera> hello, what are the essential upgrades/packages that you would recommend any 16.04 app server have installed
[02:14] <limbera> (or even removed from stock)
[02:14] <OerHeks> adymitruk, or you installed that kernel from mainline ( then you are on your own) or you use nect release 17.10 Zesty, then you should join #ubuntu+1
[02:14] <cfhowlett> limbera, perhaps #ubuntu-server  has suggestions
[02:15] <limbera> thanks cfhowlett
[02:15] <cfhowlett> happy2help! limbera
[02:16] <adymitruk> I did install it from mainline
[02:35] <starrynight> Can I reboot my computer and resume with everything open exactly as it is before I reboot?
[02:36] <starrynight> I mean resume from where I am now where when I reboot everything opens up just as it is.
[02:36] <starrynight> Hibernate isn't a true reboot, if that's what you are thinking.
[02:37] <OerHeks> starrynight, short answer: no.
[02:37] <starrynight> OerHeks, And why is this?
[02:38] <OerHeks> starrynight, why would it?
[02:38] <OerHeks> starrynight, there is a tweak, to do so > https://www.howtogeek.com/203952/how-to-automatically-remember-running-applications-from-your-last-session-in-ubuntu-14.04/
[02:38] <starrynight> Rebooting would be much more convenient of Ubuntu took a snapshot of all my open programs and then executed them in the new session.
[02:38] <starrynight> of Ubuntu = if Ubuntu
[02:39] <OerHeks> nobody wants that behaviour standard.
[02:39] <starrynight> OerHeks, That's a good link.
[02:39] <OerHeks> have fun :-)
[02:39] <starrynight> But it should be an easy option. Lots of people would want that.
[02:40] <starrynight> OerHeks, I have reboot my computer about once weekly for updates alone.
[02:40] <cfhowlett> YOU want it.  "Lots of people ..." is your claim.  Most of us manage quite well without it.
[02:40] <OerHeks> browser tend to give that option, iirc
[02:40] <starrynight> cfhowlett, Generally.. if I want something, lots of others want it as well.
[02:41] <starrynight> cfhowlett, In fact, that's how I made my first fortune. I figured if I wanted X, so did millions of others.
[02:41] <OerHeks> i am not sure tweaking that option gives a choise to skip save-state ...
[02:41] <starrynight> So I gave the world what I wanted.. and sure enough, the money poured in.
[02:41] <cfhowlett> and now we are officially trolling.  welcome to my /ignore list.
[02:42] <starrynight> cfhowlett, Money talks.
[02:43] <memphisw_> hey guys, I have a GTX950 drive installed on my ubuntu 16.10. and then have this display problem: when new images updated on my screen, it didn't cancel the old graph. and they both displayed on my screen. i have search the internet, couldn't find any good solution about it. does anyone know something about it?
[02:44] <FRWB__> can i put a terminal command directly into crontab? rather than writing it in a script then having crontab run the script?
[02:44] <Adie> hi is there a way to get ubuntu to stop trying to automatically set my refresh rate?
[02:45] <Adie> I have to set the refresh rate manually in the nvidia configuration every time I change any resolution options
[02:46] <coder-bts> Adie: depends on your graphic card
[02:46] <coder-bts> i guess
[02:46] <Adie> o ok
[02:46] <coder-bts> i do not have an independent graphic card and i didn't try
[02:46] <Adie> o ok
[02:47] <coder-bts> plz try and if it is not working then contact me with e-mail
[02:47] <coder-bts> billstarknet@gmail.com
[02:47] <coder-bts> i will try my best to help you :)
[02:47] <Adie> :P
[02:48] <coder-bts> FRWB__: Sure you can
[02:48] <OerHeks> carefull with email, this chanel is logged (spambots love you)
[02:48] <FRWB__> sweet so rather than the directory just put the command there?
[02:48] <coder-bts> hmmm.. hold on
[02:49] <coder-bts> saying it is ok but...
[02:49] <coder-bts> i do not recommend
[02:49] <memphisw> Adie: your Nvidia works fine on second screen? it perform weird when im working with two screen
[02:49] <coder-bts> better write it in a scirpt
[02:49] <Adie> memphisw, it works fine with my 4 screens
[02:49] <Adie> the problem I have is with refresh rates
[02:49] <coder-bts> directly write it in crontab only make it inefficient
[02:50] <Adie> Ubuntu thinks two of my monitors should be at 60.02hz rather than 60
[02:50] <Adie> idk how to permanantly fix that
[02:51] <coder-bts> Adie: you used command or graphic operation?
[02:52] <Adie> nvidia has GUI options that allow me to do that, but if my resolution or desktop configuration changes, those settings get overwritten with "auto"
[02:52] <Adie> and 60.02 is bad bad bad
[02:52] <FRWB__> coder-bts: how so? if it's like a 15 character command i wouldn't have to rely on the script file being messed with
[02:52] <coder-bts> oh.. i see, and no options like "remember my operation"?
[02:53] <coder-bts> FRWB__: you need better way of managing your scripts
[02:54] <memphisw> Adie: here is the screen i got now: http://picpaste.com/beary2104432341-1VwotvW9.jpg, have you ever meet this problem?
[02:55] <Adie> nope :P
[02:55] <coder-bts> that's bad :(
[02:55] <FRWB__> coder-bts: doesn't everything in cron get put through sh?
[02:56]  * coder-bts 
[02:59]  * coder-bts leaves for a while
[03:01] <pennTeller> Guys anybody know how to fully hide the bootup text on ubuntu 16.04?
[03:03] <sruli> i cant open firefox, in .mozilla/firefox/ i only have 1 dir "Crash Reports", when i try running "firefox -P" i get a GUI error "you firefox profile cannot be loaded. it may be missing or inaccessable" i have removed and reinstalled it a few times but did not help, how can i get a new firefox profile?
[03:04] <cfhowlett> sruli, delete .mozilla should reset all mozilla's apps back to factory fresh
[03:05] <sruli> cfhowlett: and reinstall after reoving?
[03:05] <cfhowlett> sruli, no.  .mozilla contains all settings and configs.  if firefox launch fails again, try purging and reinstalling
[03:05] <memphisw> oh i fix it by command 'sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-nouveau', searched from internet and i still don't know why. it is used it fix another users anothoer problem. and suprisely works for me. XD lol
[03:06] <sruli> cfhowlett: apr remove --purge firefox?
[03:06] <cfhowlett> sruli, apt-get remove --purge
[03:07] <codepython777> is there any way I can download all that is needed in 15.10 and then try to upgrade to 16.04 LTS? I've an intermittent connection, and the upgrades seem to roll back
[03:07] <sruli> cfhowlett: does it make a difference if i use apt or apt-get?
[03:07] <cfhowlett> sruli, none
[03:07] <cfhowlett> codepython777, intermittent connections?  torrent 16.04 and clean install
[03:10] <sruli> cfhowlett: still fails, i dleted .mozilla, purged, rebooted, reinstalled same error, but that creates.mozilla/firefox/Crash Reports dir
[03:11] <cfhowlett> sruli, above my paygrade then.  sorry.  workaround would be to install chromium or another alternate browser
[03:11] <cfhowlett> might want to ask #mozilla about this
[03:11] <codepython777> cfhowlett: you dont recommend upgrading?
[03:11] <sruli> cfhowlett: never had a problem with FF in the past, will ask there, thanks
[03:12] <cfhowlett> codepython777, a hot upgrade with an intermittent connection will fail repeatedly, as you have no doubt experienced.  clean install the new version to save your sanity
[03:14] <curlhelp> Hi. Does anybody know what is wrong with my curl request? I'm getting the following errors:  JSON_PARSING_ERROR: Unexpected character (t) at position 4. curl: (3) Illegal characters found in URL curl: (3) [globbing] unmatched close brace/bracket in column 12  Im doing this on an Ubuntu server. http://pastebin.com/zMaeF8Hh
[03:15] <australopithecus> Hello I am running ubuntu MATE 16.1 and have plugged in a mac harddrive (it might be failing idk) and it isnt detected by the operating system
[03:16] <australopithecus> how can I make it mount?
[03:17] <yeats> curlhelp: you're missing an opening curly bracket at the beginning of the JSON
[03:18] <yeats> (or an extra closing bracket at the end)
[03:18] <curlhelp> yeats: where does the opening braket need to go exactly? and do i need a closing one?
[03:18] <curlhelp> noooo
[03:27] <codepython777> cfhowlett: can i reinstall 16.04 on top of 15.10 as if it was a fresh install?
[03:28] <cfhowlett> codepython777, a "clean install" would replace 16.04 but you can use the same partitions.  be careful to NOT format your /home
[03:28] <coder-bts> codepython777: sure you can
[03:28] <coder-bts> we call that "covering"
[03:28] <cfhowlett> replace 15.10
[03:29] <coder-bts> and you can keep your documents
[03:29] <curlhelp> Hi. Does anybody know what is wrong with my curl request? I'm getting the following errors:  JSON_PARSING_ERROR: Unexpected character (t) at position 4. curl: (3) Illegal characters found in URL curl: (3) [globbing] unmatched close brace/bracket in column 12  Im doing this on an Ubuntu server. http://pastebin.com/zMaeF8Hh
[03:30] <cfhowlett> curlhelp, ??? yeats already told you - you're missing a curly bracket
[03:33] <curlhelp> cfhowlett: i used ctrl+f and i found an even amount of curly braces though
[03:33] <curlhelp> two { and two }
[03:33] <cfhowlett> curlhelp, sounds legit.  yeats??
[03:34] <coder-bts> so that's the problem
[03:34] <coder-bts> s
[03:34] <coder-bts> check the position 4
[03:35] <coder-bts> and check column 12
[03:35]  * coder-bts now sleeping but still answering your questions
[03:58] <wiggmpk> Why can't my bluetooth headphones just connect and actually play sound through them 98% of the time?
[03:59] <okwaho> same problem here
[04:00] <okwaho> never was able to get them working properlly...with different laptops
[04:00] <okwaho> seems a bug that is not adressed
[04:00] <wiggmpk> it is literally like throwing darts at a board while blind folded
[04:00] <okwaho> after being spun
[04:01] <wiggmpk> Ubuntu is just going down hill fast
[04:01] <okwaho> id ont agree with that, but the bluetooth issue IS annoying
[04:01] <cfhowlett> less similes and metaphors, more details MIGHT lead to solutions.  otherwise, please vent/complain to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:01] <okwaho> already did
[04:02] <wiggmpk> cfhowlett: what do you need from me? Beats Studio wireless, gnome3, connected, paired, trusted, doesn't show audio output device
[04:03] <cfhowlett> wiggmpk, read /msg ubottu bluetooth for the troubleshooting routine.  start there.
[04:05] <wiggmpk> cfhowlett: I have tried the relevant troubleshooting steps several times
[04:06] <wiggmpk> sometimes it works, other times I just get the proverbial finger
[04:06] <cfhowlett> sometimes it works?!  nice.  so it's solvable.  replicate and save those settings!
[04:06] <aruns> k1l, For update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24071570/ ; for apt-policy :http://paste.ubuntu.com/24071575/
[04:07] <wiggmpk> cfhowlett: it isn't a solution, it is random, turning off the headset, removing it, resyncing, etc etc
[04:07] <wiggmpk> cfhowlett: it powers on, connects every single time once it is paired, never fails
[04:07] <wiggmpk> cfhowlett: I just don't have any sound output from the headset
[04:08] <cfhowlett> wiggmpk, never? /msg ubottu sound
[04:12] <wiggmpk> as in never fails to connect once paired
[04:12] <redrabbit> hi, i'm trying to control the fans on my p5q-e
[04:13] <redrabbit> it works with speedfan but i can't seem to even make speed change on linux
[04:14] <redrabbit> chip is a winbond w83667hg
[04:15] <redrabbit> tried to mess with /sys/class/hwmon/ as well
[04:25] <Guy1524> hey guys, Ubuntu 16.04.2 comes w/ the 4.8 kernel right
[04:26] <Guy1524> if so, then why do I have linux 4.4 w/ Ubuntu 16.04.2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24076324/
[04:29] <OerHeks> because it is LTS, aimed at stability. only fresh installs get 4.8, but there is a fix http://askubuntu.com/questions/882896/old-kernel-with-ubuntu-16-04-2-update
[04:30] <Guy1524> ok, thanks
[04:30] <OerHeks> yw
[04:37] <CrazyTux> Can Ubuntu be installed without a swap partition?
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> !swap | CrazyTux
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> CrazyTux: can you tell us why you need that?
[04:38] <OerHeks> Didi you try?
[04:38] <CrazyTux> I have a laptop which has 4GBs of RAM.
[04:38] <CrazyTux> No. I didn't try.
[04:44] <CrazyTux> I saw this article on the web.  https://www.redhat.com/en/about/blog/do-we-really-need-swap-modern-systems
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> CrazyTux: you are the boss of your machine, you can choose how much swap you want yourself
[04:49] <OerHeks> if + if + if = yes else no
[05:03] <CrazyTux> ok
[05:07] <freecoder> hi. i am just starting out with kernel debugging on ubuntu 16.04.1 with kgdboe. i have linux-image-$(uname -r)-generic-dbgsym package installed and can connect to the target machine using "target remote .." command.
[05:08] <freecoder> how do i load the debug symbols into gdb?
[05:08] <CrazyTux> does installing more DE on Ubuntu slow it down?
[05:08] <freecoder> usually i would pass the vmlinuz file as an argument to gdb if i had compiled a vanilla kernel
[05:46] <kubanc> Hello. Is it possible for Ubuntu to use local username and password for authentication over Firefox?
[05:46] <gnomethrower> kubanc: Not sure what you mean
[05:47] <gnomethrower> do you mean you want to log into sites using your Ubuntu username and password?
[05:47] <kubanc> gnomethrower, yes,because I've added same username and password to access apps on server..
[05:47] <gnomethrower> I'm not sure you can do that
[05:47] <gnomethrower> and if you could, you're not really meant to reuse passwordss
[05:49] <anddam> at times the Unity network manager won't list my home wifi network anymore
[05:49] <kubanc> gnomethrower, In Windows you can use for User Authentication to use "Automatic logon with current username and password"...
[05:50] <anddam> disabling wi-fi and networking, and then re-enabling those some times fixes the connectivity but the network is not shown as well
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> anddam: ubuntu version plz?
[05:50] <anddam> like now I'm using this "ghost" connection
[05:50] <anddam> lotuspsychje: 16.04, is that a known, version-specific bug?
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> anddam: lsb_release -a plz?
[05:50] <kubanc> gnomethrower, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-Gb/firefox/addon/integrated-auth-for-firefox/ I found this addon
[05:52] <anddam> 16.04.2 LTS if that's what you meant
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> anddam: yeah thats what i wanted to know, great
[05:52] <anddam> lotuspsychje: does that suggests anything particular?
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> anddam: can you try a sudo service network-manager restart ?
[05:53] <anddam> why not systemctl?
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> anddam: 16.04 had some network bug like that in the start, should be fixxed by now
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> anddam: yeah sure try the systemd way
[05:53] <anddam> oh funny, there it is
[05:54] <anddam> and I *should* be still online
[05:54] <anddam> ACK pls
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> anddam: wich chipset are you on make?
[05:54] <anddam> lotuspsychje: wireless do you mean?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> anddam: yes
[05:54] <anddam> I don't really know, I bought a laptop that was as light as possible
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> anddam: sudo lshw -C network will show
[05:55] <anddam> it's a Skylake i5 , I figure it's some integrated Intel thingy
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> anddam: chipset model + driver= would be interesting
[05:55] <anddam> sure
[05:55] <anddam> I'd have gone lspci for that
[05:55] <anddam> Wireless 3160 - Intel Corporation
[05:56] <gnomethrower> kubanc: interesting.
[05:56] <anddam> need to go afk for few minutes
[05:56] <gnomethrower> kubanc: never mind me then :P
[05:56] <anddam> lotuspsychje: thanks for the restart trick meanwihle
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> anddam: no sweat
[05:57] <anddam> not really, the sun's not out yet so it's chilly
[06:01] <SubCool> Stupid Q-
[06:02] <SubCool> If i stick a 4.5A charger into a device that requires 2.0amps - will i kill it?
[06:02] <anirbaan> I am having problem connecting to irc/freenode with ufw enabled, what rule I have to set in ufw for irc?
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> SubCool: try ##hardware mate
[06:03] <N0Lif3> sometime ago, I downloaded some software from ubuntu's software repository that generated random design images and then you could click on a design and it would show you more random designs like it. Does anybody know the name of this?
[06:03] <N0Lif3> i'm trying to find it again
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> anirbaan: perhaps the ##netwfilter guys might know that
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> N0Lif3: can you refind it with apt-cache search *keyword perhaps?
[06:04] <anirbaan> #netwfilter
[06:04] <N0Lif3> I did a reinstall since then
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> anirbaan: netfilter sorry
[06:05] <SubCool> lotuspsychje, thanks.
[06:05] <SubCool> i know its stupid, but i bluew up a USb adapter by accident, soooo - just in case.
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> N0Lif3: what kind of package was it exactly
[06:08] <N0Lif3> it's what I described it as, I'm trying my best to search for it again on packages.ubuntu.com using words like "math" "art" and "generate" but can't
[06:08] <SubCool> lotuspsychje, as i thought, thanks.
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> N0Lif3: what did you use this package for exactly, can you give us little more details?
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> !yay | SubCool
[06:10] <N0Lif3> I liked looking at the random lines of color and shapes it would produce
[06:11] <N0Lif3> it would allow you to save the ones you like
[06:14] <anirbaan> and I am having issues in libreoffice-writer with pasting something over an existing text, it just repeats the existing/deleted text in xenial
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> N0Lif3: paint art or something?
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> anirbaan: try the libreoffice channel mate, they might know it
[06:18] <N0Lif3> I found it
[06:18] <N0Lif3> it's Evolvotron
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> !info evolvotron
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> N0Lif3: nice, wich category would this package belong in?
[06:20] <kubanc> is the command "kill all firefox && firefox &" OK to kill firefox and run it again?
[06:20] <N0Lif3> I found it in graphics and that sounds about right to me.
[06:20] <Mr> buenas noches
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> !es | Mr
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> N0Lif3: ok tnx and enjoy!
[06:21] <Mr> ?
[06:23] <catbeard> #ubuntu-es for support en espanol
[06:23] <N0Lif3> thank you for being so willing to help
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> N0Lif3: no sweat, you found it yourself at the end :p
[06:27] <anirbaan> lotuspsychje: from #netfilter, <Jefe>	anirbaan, we don't really support ufw here.  You might want to join #ubuntu or something like that.  If you want help using iptables without ufw, this is the place.
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> anirbaan: ok just re-ask your ufw question here then once in a while
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> !ufw | anirbaan can this help also?
[06:30] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/252021/irc-service-and-ufw-firewall-rules
[06:30] <OerHeks> sudo ufw allow out 6660:7000/tcp
[06:33] <anirbaan> OerHeks: Thanks, done, time to check, wbb :)
[06:36] <anirbaan> OerHeks: yay, it worked, thanks again :)
[06:47] <tripelb> I am installing 14.04 over a 16.04 partition. In the "Edit partition" dialog box, Use as Extra journaling file system. DO I FORMAT the partition? (check box)  - last is Mount point   /      Thanks. I just "Don't know" about formating.
[06:49] <tripelb> I thought it would naturally erase the partition. At the header that lists the structure, I guess.
[06:50] <tripelb> OerHeks: hi. Now installing. (No internet.)
[06:51] <azizLIGHT> i have encountered an issue while trying to upgrade to HWE stack, while on 14.04.5 x64 LTS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24070775/ then i did ' sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-xenial_11.2.0-1ubuntu2~trusty1_amd64.deb ' successfully: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24075194/ and then tried to do the HWE stack multiarch command again but this happend:
[06:51] <azizLIGHT> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24075210/ ... so how do i go about fixing all this so i can get HWE?
[06:52] <tripelb> N/M loves. I started too late. @mañana
[07:24] <kubanc> I created a shell script to check if Firefox process is not running, then it should start the Firefox, but later on, also the command "START /proc/cpuinfo:" starts
[07:37] <sobersabre> hi. what's the best way to work with ubuntu remotely and graphically (preferrably with rdp client)?
[07:37] <sobersabre> I am currently using xrdp, and xfce.
[07:38] <sobersabre> it gets stuck for people.
[07:41] <ducasse> sobersabre: you might want to try vnc instead of rdp
[07:48] <dennis___> hey
[07:48] <dennis___> can you guys help me?
[07:48] <coder-bts> dennis___: yes
[07:49] <coder-bts> and what is your matter?
[07:49] <dennis___> @coder-bts i don't know how i managed to do it but I'm stuck in between trusty and xenial
[07:49] <dennis___> lsb_release says its ubuntu 16.04(which it was) but all the reps are trusty
[07:49] <dennis___> and whenever i try to do anything its all sorts of conflicts
[07:50] <coder-bts> if i am right
[07:50] <coder-bts> you mean you are now stuck in 2 versions of ubuntu?
[07:50] <coder-bts> right?
[07:50] <dennis___> @coder-bts basically yeah
[07:51] <coder-bts> i guess you originally want to cover 14.04 and trying to install xenial?
[07:51] <coder-bts> if it is, reinstall it, fully cover the trusty
[07:51] <dennis___> no i was originally on 16.04(denial)
[07:51] <coder-bts> oh
[07:51] <coder-bts> so where is the trusty from?
[07:52] <dennis___> i added a rep trying to install pcp and everything messed up
[07:52] <ducasse> dennis___: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list please
[07:52] <ducasse> !pastebin | dennis___
[07:52] <dennis___> now for some reason the reps are saying trusty and the ubuntu version is xenial
[07:53] <dennis___> @ducasse atm its blank
[07:53] <ducasse> dennis___: the file is empty?
[07:53] <dennis___> ya
[07:53] <coder-bts> hmmm.. it is weird
[07:54] <coder-bts> check log
[07:54] <mtra_> p
[07:54] <dennis___> @coder-bts which log?
[07:54] <ducasse> dennis___: are there any .list files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?
[07:54] <dennis___> @ducasse yeah pcp.list and new relic.list
[07:55] <ducasse> dennis___: see which of them contains a trusty repo
[07:55] <dohelpme> where can I seek help on depression?
[07:55] <dennis___> ok the pcp.list is where the trusty is coming from
[07:55] <ducasse> !alis | dennis___
[07:55] <ducasse> !alis | dohelpme
[07:55] <ducasse> dennis___: sorry, that was not for you
[07:56] <dennis___> @ducasse its all good
[07:56] <dennis___> its the pcp.list file that has trusty in it
[07:56] <ducasse> dennis___: ok. first of al you need to restore your sources.list, or you won't be able to install updates and packages
[07:56] <coder-bts> i guess it is not the matter with the system itself but the process of reconization...
[07:56] <dennis___> @ducasse is there a default sources.list somewhere?
[07:57] <ducasse> dennis___: no, but hang on a sec.
[07:57] <dohelpme> !alis | dohelpme
[07:59] <ducasse> dennis___: try this - https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[08:01] <dennis___> @ducasse i think that fixed it :)
[08:01] <dennis___> whats the recommended monitoring software? most of my software runs inside docker
[08:04] <ducasse> dennis___: if you have a trusty repo, you need to get rid of it, or you will badly break your system at some opint.
[08:06] <dennis___> @ducasse i removed that
[08:06] <dennis___> it was just due to the php repo
[08:06] <dennis___> pcp repo*
[08:07] <ducasse> dennis___: you can also get rid of the @, not necessary on irc. for monitoring there are tons of options, depending on what you want.
[08:07] <ducasse> dennis___: they range from monit (simple) to nagios (complex)
[08:10] <madm1ke> I tried a 4.10 mainline kernel to see if nouveau MST is working for me. No luck :( Do I need custom xserver-xorg-video- packages/drivers as well?
[08:10] <sruli> i am trying to add a language in ubuntu-gnome, each time i try to add the language panel quits
[08:12] <dennis___> @ducasse whats the recommended one though? cause my setup is weird since everything is ran inside docker
[08:13] <dennis___> i know netflix uses pcp+vector a lot of sites use munin but i couldn't get munin to work
[08:13] <littl> I have set alias but if i do su - <user>
[08:13] <ducasse> dennis___: there is no recommended one, it all depends on what you need.
[08:13] <littl> i have also tried adding alias to /etc/bashrc and ran source bashrc
[08:13] <littl> alias is not working
[08:13] <littl> what is the fix
[08:14] <dennis___> @ducasse the very basics of just tracking resource usage and when i should be upgrading
[08:15] <anirbaan> what is the root file system check command? is it "mkdir /enforce" ? I had a bad shutdown.
[08:15] <ducasse> dennis___: monit might do what you want. and you still don't need the @ in front of nicks, clients highlight them anyway.
[08:16] <littl> can any one help
[08:16] <kubanc> Hello. I have a question. Any Idea why when I put command "firefox &" after taht command "START /proc/cpuinfo:" starts automaticly
[08:16] <dennis___> ducasse, alright just used to it
[08:16] <anirbaan> littl: what kind of help do you need ?
[08:16] <ducasse> anirbaan: if the fs is unclean it will be checked on boot
[08:16] <littl> i hav set the alias if i do su - <user> its not working for another users
[08:17] <dennis___> is there any reason why i would use munin and nagios over monic?
[08:17] <ducasse> !patience | littl
[08:17] <dennis___> monit*
[08:17] <ducasse> dennis___: they're more suited for big environments, like server farms
[08:17] <littl> ubottu: since anirbaan asked i had to reply him
[08:17] <anirbaan> ducasse: but still I am having issues with files like some file still is locked as it is in use by user "unknown"
[08:18] <anirbaan> after reboot
[08:18] <anirbaan> *some files
[08:18] <dennis___> @ducasse so monit would do everything i need for a vps/few vpses?
[08:18] <ducasse> anirbaan: try 'touch /forcefsck' - it should still work afaik
[08:19] <anirbaan> ducasse: thanks, on it
[08:19] <ducasse> dennis___: i can't tell you, i don't know your setup. you need to test.
[08:19] <dennis___> does monit do everything cloud watch would?
[08:20] <grek> hi i have problem with free space - http://pastebin.com/dEVp4UbD
[08:20] <ducasse> dennis___: no idea.
[08:20] <grek> 100% but where
[08:20] <ducasse> grek: at the very top, the root fs
[08:20] <anirbaan> littl: ubottu is an utility bot, please ask about the thing you need help :)
[08:21] <littl> anirbaan: do u hav any idea abt my question :)
[08:21] <grek> i dont know how fix it
[08:22] <geirha> grek: cd / && sudo du -haxd1 . | sort -h
[08:22] <geirha> cd into the largest dir, and repeat
[08:22] <ducasse> grek: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/653096/how-to-free-inode-usage#9387415
[08:22] <grek> http://pastebin.com/ACVshti1
[08:23] <dennis___> ducasse, what if i want to track resource usage and growth trends?
[08:23] <ducasse> grek: /web is 22g
[08:23] <ducasse> dennis___: then maybe munin
[08:23] <anirbaan> littl: sorry, didn't noticed you already asked the issue, I can only suggest that have you checked about that user being in sudoers file?
[08:24] <geirha> cd web && sudo du -haxd1 . | sort -h
[08:24] <littl> anirbaan: yes he is there
[08:24] <geirha> hum, you have .git dir in / ?
[08:25] <geirha> oh wait, you didn't cd to / first. Nevermind
[08:25] <grek> yes
[08:25] <grek> http://pastebin.com/GVAAhctU
[08:25] <grek> here is from /
[08:25] <grek> lib is 17 gb
[08:26] <grek> can i quick remove some cache or sommething to ulock system - now its stop no space left on /
[08:26] <ducasse> grek: /var/lib is used for containers/vm's by default
[08:27] <grek> apt-get autoremove -f = error unable to create `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/tmp.i': No space left on device
[08:28] <geirha> sudo apt-get clean
[08:28] <geirha> ah, but it probably requires tempfiles at some point, so might not work
[08:28] <grek> geirha this work but i have only 65.5 kB disk space will be freed.
[08:29] <anirbaan> littl: I am afraid my knowledge is limited about it :)
[08:29] <hateball> grek: do you have a bunch of old kernels in /boot ?
[08:29] <littl> anirbaan: i have fixed it
[08:29] <littl> does anyone can tell me what is the difference between pkill and killall command
[08:30] <anirbaan> littl: how ?
[08:30] <littl> added the entry for alias in bash.bashrc
[08:30] <ducasse> littl: read the man pages, they explain it
[08:30] <anirbaan> littl: you fixed that?
[08:30] <littl> anirbaan: yes
[08:34] <peter__> hi
[08:38] <grek> ok i move /var/php/sessions to other disk - /have raid - i think php sessions can by in other disc - its temp files
[08:38] <grek> yes ?
[08:40] <ikevin> grek, yes
[08:40] <allanargamer> hello all
[08:40] <grek> ok thanks
[08:41] <allanargamer> I was wondering if someone could give me some help on installing ubuntu 16.04 to an external drive?
[08:42] <motie> allanargamer: As a live session?
[08:42] <allanargamer> if possible. I really just have one question
[08:43] <ducasse> !ask | allanargamer
[08:43] <allanargamer> ok thanks
[08:44] <Serg_Penguin> hi ! logrotate fails on me - `logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.d/STAR_my_web_sites` says logs need no rotation, but they are huge and not rotated very long time. How to fix ? PS. Logs timestamps are appended on every write, because PHP script re-opens them every time.
[08:45] <Serg_Penguin> timestamps are _updated_ on every line
[08:45] <allanargamer> I am installing ubuntu 16.04 on an external hard drive as a solo operating system. When it gets to a certain point I always get the error The partition /dev/sda1 assigned to / starts at an offset of 3584 bytes from the minimum alignment for this disk, which may lead to very poor performance.  Since you are formatting this partition, you should correct this problem now by realigning the partition, as it will be difficult to change
[08:46] <Serg_Penguin> or what is more proper channel to ask ?
[08:46] <motie> allanargamer: Are you installing GRUB on the external drive?
[08:47] <allanargamer> as far as I know I'm not very experienced at ubuntu
[08:47] <ikevin> Serg_Penguin, can you pastebin your logrotate config file?
[08:48] <motie> allanargamer: You should propably have a small FAT32 partition with GRUB and boot files on, and the the system on a ext4 partion. But maybe it's much easier to run it all as a live session?
[08:49] <ducasse> allanargamer: before you install, partition the drive with gparted and make sure the partitions are aligned
[08:50] <motie> allanargamer: Make a >4Gb FAT32 partition and use 'startup disk creator' to make the disk
[08:50] <allanargamer> I can't get gparted because for some reason I can't get the root-system-bin file I need to go root
[08:50] <Serg_Penguin> ikevin, http://pastebin.com/WnHaaEMw
[08:50] <grek> this is normal that i have more of 1 mln php session files ?
[08:51] <ducasse> allanargamer: that makes no sense
[08:51] <motie> allanargamer gparted are installed on a live session.
[08:51] <motie> you can easily run it from a USB pen ( or disk
[08:51] <Serg_Penguin> grek, that depends on your project, generally not
[08:52] <allanargamer> I am running the live session off a flash drive. maybe I have a corrupted file or something
[08:52] <grek> i think it not that big now, php self remove old sessions ? ok i look in google
[08:52] <ducasse> allanargamer: write it again on a different usb stck. which ubuntu is this?
[08:52] <ikevin> Serg_Penguin, it said you it don't need to be rotated every week?
[08:52] <motie> allanargamer can you not start gparted from the live session
[08:52] <allanargamer> 16.04
[08:52] <Serg_Penguin> grek, go to #php , ask how to disable sessions for guest/unregistered users, how to tune garbage collection in PHP
[08:53] <grek> ok
[08:53] <ducasse> allanargamer: 'regular' ubuntu desktop?
[08:53] <FinalX> uhm
[08:53] <FinalX> php sessions are changed in ubuntu and debian, by its package maintainer
[08:53] <allanargamer> no it tells me I have to be root to do it and it won't let me and yes, regular ubuntu desktop
[08:53] <FinalX> so it's ubuntu specific..
[08:53] <ducasse> allanargamer: can you open a terminal?
[08:53] <FinalX> grek: php in ubuntu comes with a session cleaner cron job
[08:54] <allanargamer> yes
[08:54] <ducasse> allanargamer: type 'sudo gparted'
[08:54] <Serg_Penguin> ikevin, "considering log /var/log/acmeweb_v1/example.tld/application.log \n log does not need rotating", and so for every site
[08:54] <allanargamer> God I feel stupid I was just typing gparted
[08:54] <scott404> guys how do I check if my email is registered here on freenode?
[08:55] <ikevin> Serg_Penguin, it's a weekly task, if you run logrotate every day it's normal there's no need to rotate
[08:55] <ducasse> scott404: ask in #freenode
[08:55] <grek> ok i understand now - i found this cron - run it and have /usr/lib/php/sessionclean: line 35: php7.1: command not found
[08:55] <grek> :)
[08:55] <scott404> ok tnx friend
[08:56] <allanargamer> ok I will see what I can do from here thanks to all of you for the help
[08:56] <Serg_Penguin> ikevin, no, it's 150 Mb and all 'rotated' files are empty
[08:56] <ikevin> Serg_Penguin, in the example you've pastebin, you have "weekly" option
[08:57] <Serg_Penguin> yes, but my 'weekly' turns to 'every week make an empty rotated file and leave old in place'
[09:02] <yao_ziyuan> i have a Dell 22" 1920x1080 WLED display bought in 2011. in ubuntu 16.10, it can't adjust brightness, etc. if i try to adjust them, a lock icon will show up at the center of the display. anyone know how to work around that?
[09:02] <sruli> my system keeps on crashing in the last few, days, if i am fast enough to go to tty1 before the complete freeze, i get the following output http://imgur.com/a/ZNmk6 (this output takes about 5-10 minutes from first to last line
[09:03] <yao_ziyuan> video card is GeForce GTX 960/PCIe/SSE2
[09:04] <yao_ziyuan> video driver is nvidia-367
[09:06] <Serg_Penguin> from root, i run `logrotate -f -v STAR_acmeveb` and it says: '/var/log/acmeweb_v1/example.tld/performance.log.1 to uid 500 and gid 502: Operation not permitted' why ? Root has no right ?
[09:06] <ducasse> yao_ziyuan: this is when you use the on-screen controls?
[09:07] <yao_ziyuan> ducasse: yes
[09:07] <ducasse> yao_ziyuan: then you need to ask dell
[09:07] <yao_ziyuan> .
[09:07] <yao_ziyuan> ducasse: i have windows 10 installed side by side, but haven't bothered to try this in windows.
[09:08] <ikevin> Serg_Penguin, try adding -d option
[09:08] <ducasse> yao_ziyuan: you probably should
[09:09] <ikevin> yao_ziyuan, do you have a fn key?
[09:09] <yao_ziyuan> solved! http://www.urtech.ca/2013/07/solved-how-to-unlock-the-onscreen-display-osd-on-a-dell-monitor/
[09:12] <adc__> hi my computer was updating and suddenly restarted. Now it does not boot up. I tried using recovery mode with older kernels but it restarts.. Help Please...
[09:12] <ikevin> adc__, edit the grub command to disable splash screen and see what happend
[09:13] <adc__> ikevin: how do i edit grub command I can get to grub command prompt by pressing c, now what. (novice here)
[09:15] <kierqueen> hello
[09:15] <ikevin> adc__, when you are on the menu where you can select the kernel to boot, highlight the last one, then press "e", on "linux" (or initrd) option, remove "quiet" and "splash" options, then do ctrl+x to boot
[09:15] <kierqueen> mmy bar , of vpn or other things, have changed, since I installed i3-wm?
[09:15] <kierqueen> it's not in purple anywhere, as if a new ubuntu feature is installed?
[09:15] <kierqueen> whatdo I do now
[09:18] <ducasse> kierqueen: which desktop/wm are you using?
[09:18] <sruli> my system keeps on crashing in the last few, days, if i am fast enough to go to tty1 before the complete freeze, i get the following output http://imgur.com/a/ZNmk6 (this output takes about 5-10 minutes from first to last line
[09:19] <ikevin> sruli, this look like a disk problem
[09:19] <kierqueen> unity ducasse
[09:19] <ducasse> kierqueen: which bar are you talking about and how has it changed?
[09:19] <sruli> ikevin: its a ssd, i ran fsck multiple times they all came back ok
[09:19] <adc__> ikevin: threre is no splash or quiet option, initrd option has "/boot/initrd.img-3.13.0.101-generic" writted in front of it
[09:20] <ikevin> sruli, perhaps a controller problem
[09:20] <kierqueen> when the vpn comes, at the top right side, or any other thing gets done there is a rectangle shaped thing, that when you move your mouse it lightens it's color, or when something some task is completed it says it's done, at the right side, in the mid air, it doesn't have a window
[09:21] <sruli> ikevin: how can i get to the bottom of it?
[09:21] <ducasse> sruli: it could be an fs error, looks like the superblock is corrupt. you can tell fsck to use another copy.
[09:21] <ikevin> adc__, can you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[09:21] <kierqueen> it also says encrypted vpn is starting, that bar,  ducasse I don't know what we call it
[09:22] <ikevin> sruli, try to change your ssd to another sata port or use another sata cable
[09:22] <adc__> ikevin: can i get to shell atleast somehow so that i can copy my important files to my usb drive and then i can reinstall it all over
[09:22] <ducasse> kierqueen: try 'sudo apt purge dunst', see if that helps
[09:23] <adc__> ikevin: also then i can copy and pastebin the grub.cfg
[09:23] <kierqueen> but how do I check, since it's not here, how do I bring it back
[09:23] <kierqueen> I do calibre book conversion some times, and then too that bar comes
[09:23] <sruli> ikevin: ok, will do that, thanks
[09:23] <ikevin> adc__, you can boot to live usb disk
[09:24] <sruli> ducasse: how do i tell fsck to use another copy?
[09:24] <ducasse> kierqueen: sorry, i have no idea what you mean
[09:24] <kierqueen> it's a notification daemon
[09:24] <ducasse> sruli: it's in the man page, i'm a bit busy
[09:24] <Serg_Penguin> probably solved logrotate problem: `find -name 'application.log' | xargs -L 1 chmod 660` in proper dir. Will observe
[09:24] <adc__> ikevin: yes i do have a puppy linux somewhere, thanks let me find it first and tehn i will get back to you, thanks a lot
[09:24] <anddam> the single one thing I haven't been able to do with my ubuntu desktop is printing, I have a Brother MFC-250 for which there seems to no driver, in the dialog from System Settings > Printers > Add
[09:25] <kierqueen> yeah, you know what I mean, I want to make it as if it was before installing i3
[09:25] <anddam> how should I proceed
[09:25] <anddam> how should I proceed?
[09:25] <ducasse> kierqueen: yes, then do as i said, and you get the old one
[09:25] <kierqueen> ok
[09:25] <ikevin> adc__, you welcome
[09:29] <anddam> oh nvm, brother has binary drivers in deb format
[09:30] <anddam> with Ubuntu should I be looking for CUPS or LPR drivers?
[09:31] <ducasse> anddam: iirc the cups driver depends on the lpr driver
[09:31] <kierqueen> ducasse: hi
[09:31] <kierqueen> http://imgur.com/a/LQAC3
[09:32] <kierqueen> see it's dark blue still
[09:32] <kierqueen> It's different thant the default, where can i find more info, on why does ubuntu change it
[09:32] <ducasse> kierqueen: empty page
[09:32] <kierqueen> ducasse: ?
[09:32] <kierqueen> what's empty page?
[09:32] <ducasse> kierqueen: there's no image there
[09:33] <anddam> ducasse: confirmed per Brothers not-so-clear informations
[09:33] <anddam> I'm going dirty, they have an installer utility
[09:33] <ducasse> anddam: no, install the debs
[09:33] <anddam> how so?
[09:34] <ducasse> anddam: that's all you need, and they don't mess stuff up
[09:35] <anddam> ok, about the scanner features they have "Scaner driver", both in 32 and 64 bits, and "Scanner Settings", arch independent
[09:35] <anddam> I *guess* the settings are needed, not sure why they are in a separate, 1.5 kB package tho'
[09:36] <cappe> snap for ubuntu seems broke, it states a socket error. is there a workaround on this?
[09:36] <ducasse> cappe: restart snapd
[09:37] <anddam> ah it's an udev rules package
[09:37] <anddam> did the udev hier changed from 13.10?
[09:38] <anddam> mmm they suggests a dpkg --force-all
[09:38] <anddam> I'm going to try and see if I can manage without
[09:39] <cappe> I get this error on trying to start snapd service
[09:39] <cappe> cappe@silver:~$ sudo systemctl restart snapd
[09:39] <cappe> Failed to restart snapd.service: No such method 'RestartUnit'
[09:41] <sruli> ducasse: how do i tell fsck to use another copy?
[09:42] <anddam> https://gist.github.com/anddam/e4831fb9ef9304358da8843df18abf39 I can create the /var/spool/lpd but who shold be the owner?
[09:42] <ducasse> sruli: 'man fsck.ext4'
[09:42] <ducasse> sruli: see -b
[09:43] <ikevin> sruli, read -p option too
[09:45] <ducasse> anddam: install lpd, and it should create it
[09:45] <anddam> lpd, not lpr or lprng?
[09:45] <anddam> there's no lpd package
[09:45] <ducasse> anddam: lpd is part of either of those
[09:46] <anddam> lpr is BSD, I figure it's old-school since the other is "ng"
[09:46] <anddam> lpr takes 90kB while lprng 2.7MB, are they much different feature-wise?
[09:47] <anddam> mmm the real issue is lpr want to remove cups-bsd package
[09:47] <anddam> while lprng wants to remove all these: bluez-cups cups cups-bsd cups-client hplip indicator-printers printer-driver-gutenprint printer-driver-hpcups printer-driver-postscript-hp printer-driver-splix
[09:48] <anddam> is there anything bad with this removal?
[09:49] <ducasse> anddam: maybe cups-bsd contains what you need, so lpr isn't needed, i'm not sure
[09:49] <anddam> cups-bsd conflicts with both lpr and lprng, but I'd like not to screw up ubuntu's defaults
[09:50] <anddam> that lprng removal notice seems a bit extensive
[09:51] <ducasse> anddam: see which user cups runs as, and create thie dir with that as owner
[09:51] <tatertots> i've got two brother multifunction printers on my network.....install was fairly straight forward and painless both times on both models for me....obviously YMMV
[09:52] <anddam> ducasse: but do I need cups-bsd at all?
[09:52] <anddam> ducasse: I just dropped lpr in place removing cups-bsd
[09:53] <anddam> but I don't know if it'll be "integrated" with the system
[09:53] <ducasse> anddam: i think cups-bsd _might_ have been enough, not sure
[09:53] <ducasse> anddam: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/cups.html
[09:54] <anddam> but cups-bsd didn't have the lpd setup
[09:54] <anddam> anyway now I can just remove lpr and reinstall cups-bsd, if need be
[09:55] <ducasse> anddam: no, it has cups and the lp clients, it seems
[09:56] <anddam> things I don't quite get about Unity, sometimes I have to type ctrl-W to close a window, sometime I need alt-f4
[09:56] <anddam> ducasse: the printer is there in the Settings, is there a way I can see the print queue for the printer?
[09:58] <ducasse> anddam: read the last section of the page i pointed you to
[09:58] <anddam> "References"
[09:58] <ducasse> anddam: above that
[09:58] <anddam> (yes I read about the web interface, thanks)
[09:58] <horsewhip> anddam: The grinds my gears too.
[09:59] <anddam> horsewhip: the glitches in interface?
[09:59] <ducasse> anddam: you can use the web interface to configure printers, manage jobs and queues
[10:00] <OerHeks> not helpfull, horsewhip
[10:00] <anddam> yep, my jobs appears as processed, yet the printer did nothing
[10:01] <anddam> the status of the printer says     Idle - "Sending data to printer."
[10:02] <ducasse> anddam: that generally indicates the printer is not properly connected
[10:03] <anddam> I wouldn't know how to connect it better
[10:04] <ducasse> anddam: unfortunately, cups is a pita to debug
[10:04] <ducasse> anddam: how is it connected?
[10:05] <anddam> USB cable, I changed the port
[10:05] <anddam> wihle refreshing the Printers page in CUP webui
[10:05] <anddam> I saw it going to off, then to Idle again
[10:05] <anddam> so I figure it's being recognized
[10:05] <anddam> upon printing it changes the printer status to "Idle sending data to printer
[10:06] <ducasse> anddam: go to admin/maintenance, try to print a test page
[10:06] <anddam> even the test page did the same path, job gets accepted, it is removed frmo the queue (via Settings) and it appears as completed in job list in CUPS webui
[10:07] <ducasse> anddam: try asking in ##cups
[10:07] <anddam> I will thanks
[10:08] <OerHeks> maybe a restart of cups ..
[10:08] <anddam> mm worth a try
[10:08] <anddam> just the service or the whole system?
[10:08] <ducasse> the service should be enough
[10:08] <anddam> cups.service ?
[10:09] <anddam> I'll also remove and add back the printer
[10:10] <ducasse> sometimes you get a selection of local printers to choose from
[10:10] <ducasse> (although they are all the same physical printer)
[10:12] <anddam> in fact I picked the local printer and thenit added the usb:// URI
[10:15] <anddam> this is one dark area for end-users
[10:15] <ducasse> anddam: you can also add the printer in the webui, it often does a better job of things.
[10:15] <anddam> ducasse: I did that already
[10:15] <anddam> going to try a drop-in of cups-bsd in place of lpr package
[10:16] <anddam> meanwhile I have the macbook for printing
[10:20] <anddam> sometimes a man just has to print
[10:23] <Chota> Chota_bheem
[10:23] <anddam> that was odd
[10:26] <h1n1> good morinig
[10:31] <pavlushka> h1n1: Good Morning :)
[10:34] <littl> m getting this error Error refreshing state: 1 error(s) occurred:  * InvalidClientTokenId: The security token included in the request is invalid.         status code: 403, request id: 66088148-fccc-11e6-a2bf-0fb74201719e
[10:34] <littl> if i do a terraform apply
[10:48] <Guest95561> Hey. If a laptops touchpad doesn't work on 16.04 LTS, is it likely going to work if I change away from LTS to the newest stuff?
[10:51] <tatertots> Guest95561: only one way to find out....boot the livecd of the "newer stuff" you speak of and find out
[10:51] <ramsub07> Hi, how do i remove previously entered commands from history ?
[10:53] <k1l> ramsub07: they are stored in the .bash_history in the users home
[10:54] <Guest19252> also the commands entered while using sudo?
[10:54] <ramsub07> k1l:  if i remove the log from useradd and the bash history, could someone find out whether i have added a new user or not ?
[10:54] <k1l> ramsub07: yes he can.
[10:54] <Guest19252> whats if its a she?
[10:55] <ramsub07> k1l: by listing the users that exists currently ?
[10:55] <ramsub07> Guest19252: i really don't want to talk feminism here. Go to appropriate channel
[10:55] <Guest19252> who is talking feminism?
[10:55] <k1l> ramsub07: you cant hide a user from the system because the system needs to know about the users to work.
[10:57] <Guest19252> you dont have to hide it from the system you have to hide it from the users
[10:57] <ramsub07> can i elevate the privilege and go with it without grabbing attention?
[10:57] <k1l> ramsub07: they need to be in the passwd for the system to be able to work with the users
[10:58] <ducasse> ramsub07: why the need to avoid attention?
[10:58] <Guest19252> and any user can access passwd?
[10:59] <ducasse> yes
[10:59] <Guest19252> why?
[10:59] <k1l> Guest19252: you can easily check the permissions on your ubuntu system
[11:00] <Guest19252> if you need root to add remove users only root should access it
[11:01] <Guest19252> or at least only wheel users
[11:01] <causative> my computer is way slower than it used to be on the same app 6 months ago, for no obvious reason, i.e. processor usage, memory, etc all seem ok, but it keeps graying out and freezing, what could cause this, how do I diagnose?
[11:01] <causative> it's not just that particular app
[11:02] <k1l> causative: you could look at "dmesg" for obvious issues
[11:02] <Guest19252> could you please advise?
[11:03] <causative> nothing suspicious in dmesg
[11:03] <Guest19252> if i understand correctlly for you to login you need to have the logging program run as root
[11:04] <k1l> Guest19252: this is #ubuntu. ubuntu doesnt have a wheel group
[11:04] <Guest19252> so why should regualr users have access to passwd?
[11:04] <Guest19252> wheel = user able to use sudo
[11:05] <Guest19252> regular users shouldnt be able to use sudo
[11:05] <k1l> Guest19252: not on ubuntu
[11:06] <Guest19252> so all users in ubuntu can use sudo?
[11:06] <k1l> and the passwd is worldreadable because it includes user account informations needed by other users. it doesnt contain the passwords. so there is no issue in that. i dont know what issue you are trying to make up here
[11:07] <Guest19252> regular users shouldnt be able to list other users accounts
[11:08] <k1l> Guest19252: no. but dont talk about other OS setups. this is not relevant in here. ubuntu doesnt use wheel group or other setups. it uses the sudo group, which is set in sudoers file to grant all that group members sudo permissions.
[11:08] <k1l> Guest19252: if you think so, remove world readable and see what breaks. have fun
[11:11] <craptalk> i set the file mode by chmod 2400 file.txt, number 2 here is special permission in which i added for guid. Lets say i am running as x user, what can i be different with that file behaviour?
[11:11] <Guest19252> is there any reason a user should be on the sudo group if that user isnt supposed to use sudo?
[11:11] <k1l> Guest19252: no, only the first user on the system is in that sudo group. others need to be put in manually.
[11:12] <craptalk> my guid is 1000
[11:12] <craptalk> i mean, i read the special permission, but can anyone please give me the real case for this?
[11:13] <craptalk> i want to the difference, cause i usually set it into 0
[11:13] <craptalk> i want to know*
[11:17] <k1l> craptalk: so you use Set-Gid?
[11:18] <Blessed> hello please i need help.  ON one laptop i use live Ubuntu usb and i want to share 170GB big folder with other laptop which uses Windows 10. Both are connected with ethernet to Router. SO i installed samba, shared folder and i see it on Windows 10 but i cant open it. It ays Windows cannot access \\UBUNTU\Music... WHY?
[11:18] <ducasse> craptalk: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/it-security/understand-the-setuid-and-setgid-permissions-to-improve-security/
[11:19] <lurklord> test
[11:20] <Guest88990> Hi, what's the command to update the smart disk database on 16.04? The regular script doesn't seem to exist
[11:24] <littl> how different killall is from pkill
[11:25] <ducasse> littl: see the man pages
[11:26] <littl> ducasse:  A killall process never kills itself (but may kill other  killall  pro‐cesses).
[11:52] <hanshenrik_> my mariadb server refuse connections from remote IPs
[11:53] <ben|deb> please help. I just installed ubuntu mate from a flashdrive i found. I don't know if i installed the 32 or 64 version. How can i tell?
[11:53] <ikonia> hanshenrik_: can you connect to the port, but not the database, or can you not connect to the port
[11:53] <ikonia> ben|deb: uname -a
[11:53] <ikonia> ben|deb: paste the output please.
[11:54] <ben|deb> Linux Elite 4.4.0-31-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 13 00:06:14 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:54] <ikonia> ben|deb: thats 32bit
[11:54] <ben|deb> ikonia: ok :(    can i upgrade with a command? or do i need to reinstall?
[11:54] <ikonia> ben|deb: re-install, sorry
[11:54] <ikevin> is there a way to read ufw rules without enabling it?
[11:54] <ben|deb> ikonia: ok. pitty. THanks for the help. will reinstall
[11:55] <ikonia> unless I"m not understanding what you are asking
[11:55] <ikonia> ikevin: there are no rules until you enable it
[11:55] <ikonia> ben|deb: sorry, just how it is
[11:55] <ben|deb> yepp thanks
[11:55] <ikevin> ikonia, rules can be added without enabling ufw
[11:56] <ikevin> and, i want to see what i've added
[11:57] <ikonia> ikevin: ahh, you mean not applying the rules
[11:57] <ikonia> ikevin: the gui should list them
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:58] <ikevin> ikonia, i don't have screen, it's on a server
[11:58] <OerHeks> sudo ufw show added
[11:58] <ikonia> there you go, thank you OerHeks
[11:58] <OerHeks> sudo ufw status
[11:58] <ikevin> OerHeks, perfect, thx :)
[11:58] <ikevin> ufw status show them only when ufw is enabled
[11:59] <OerHeks> but this gives rules is on my enabled ufw, i disable ufw now and see if they can be listed
[12:00] <ikevin> show added give what i need (i won't enable it for now to prevent mistake)
[12:00] <OerHeks> yes, ufw rules are shown when ufw is disabled.
[12:00] <Jaset> Hi. I have installed restricted-extras but .mp4's still don't play on my firefox browser. They play well in Vlc...etc though
[12:01] <Jaset> can someone help?
[12:01] <OerHeks> Jaset, what is in that mp4? drm content?
[12:01] <Jaset> OerHeks: nope
[12:02] <OerHeks> does it play in google-chrome? ( not chromium)
[12:02] <The_Myth> hello guys. i've been tryingo to upgrade my vps. i've done do-release-upgrade -d to upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10.. but when i've tried to upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04.2 it says: The user `syslog' is already a member of `adm'. any hints?
[12:02] <ikevin> mp4 is a container, playing in browser depend of codec inside
[12:02] <Jaset> OerHeks: i dont have google-chrome, im on 32bit
[12:03] <The_Myth> obs: it's stuck there like almost 1h
[12:03] <ikevin> Jaset, see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Supported_media_formats#Browser_compatibility
[12:03] <hateball> Jaset: you can get media info in VLC, tell us what codec it uses
[12:04] <rhumbot> hi all, I would like to create an sftp connection, using aptana studio 3 to a webserver from 1and1 but received the error "no suitable key exchange algorithm could be agreed".
[12:04] <OerHeks> Jaset, did you enable dvd playback? sometimes a mp4 is coded like dvd-drm
[12:05] <rhumbot> I tried this: https://nikinuryadin.wordpress.com/2015/05/19/aptana-studio-3-sftp-key-exchange/ but it did not work ...
[12:06] <Jaset> hateball: vlc is using h264 - mpeg-4 AVC (part 10)(avc1)
[12:06] <ikevin> Jaset, does firefox show you an error in the dev console?
[12:07] <ducasse> rhumbot: ask the developers/community, see their website for support options
[12:08] <OerHeks> The_Myth, ask your vendor a fresh image, normally it is hard to upgrade vps stuff, protected
[12:09] <Jaset> ikevin: it says HTML5VideoCheckLoad, true, true, undefined apparently
[12:09] <The_Myth> OerHeks: that's what i've done now. waiting for an answer. Thanks :D
[12:09] <ikevin> Jaset, can you share the file?
[12:11] <Jaset> ikevin, the link is http://a9-19.clients.cdn13.com/006/675/6675539.mp4?cdn_creation_time=1488197280&cdn_ttl=14400&cdn_bw=150k&cdn_bw_fs=983k&cdn_cv_data=104.197.75.157-dvp&cdn_hash=655aafdafad5185608c360548c977143
[12:12] <hateball> Jaset: that's quite NSFW
[12:12] <ikevin> Jaset, it play fine in my ff
[12:12] <hateball> It played fine in Chromium as well
[12:13] <Jaset> let me send you a screenshot of what i get
[12:13] <Jaset> one min
[12:13] <ikevin> Jaset, try installing gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad and gstreamer0.10-plugins-base
[12:13] <ikevin> firefox use gstreamer
[12:13] <OerHeks> Jaset, ahh the new firefox feature, you are not 21+
[12:14] <ikevin> oh, a porn file :x
[12:14] <Jaset> ikevin: http://i.imgur.com/xQSdPs0.png
[12:15] <Jaset> this is what i see when i open any .mp4 file
[12:15] <Jaset> nothing plays
[12:15] <OerHeks> Good.
[12:15] <ikevin> Jaset, try to install gstreamer plugins
[12:15] <Jaset> ikevin: i already have them
[12:16] <Jaset> ikevin: ahhh wait
[12:16] <ikevin> Jaset, see on the "network" tab of the dev tools if firefox try to download the file
[12:16] <Jaset> ikevin: apparently i have gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad installed, but not gstreamer0.10-plugins-base
[12:17] <hateball> Jaset: can you play something like http://distribution.bbb3d.renderfarming.net/video/mp4/bbb_sunflower_1080p_60fps_normal.mp4 ?
[12:17] <hateball> that's big buck bunny, a tad more safe for work...
[12:18] <Jaset> nope hateball
[12:19] <Jaset> ikevin: gstreamer1.0-plugins-base is installed though, im on 16.04
[12:19] <ikevin> Jaset, Mozilla's doc say that since firefox 26 mp4 (h264/aac) use gstreamer
[12:20] <Jaset> ikevin: why isn't then any video playing? could this be a permission problem?
[12:20] <ikevin> you can try gstreamer1.0-plugins-good too
[12:20] <Jaset> ikevin: .avi's and the rest play fine
[12:20] <hateball> Jaset: you could try running Firefox from a terminal and then playing video, see if it spits out anything to stdout
[12:20] <ikevin> do you restart firefox after installing gstreamer plugin?
[12:20] <hateball> or press F12 in the browser to get dev tools, they may say something
[12:21] <Jaset> ikevin: that was already installed before
[12:21] <Jaset> i must remind you that i have flashblock installed, so when i open a .mp4 file, i need to allow flash to run
[12:22] <hateball> It doesnt use flash
[12:22] <ikevin> oO
[12:22] <Jaset> a flash popup automatically comes up
[12:22] <ikevin> try to disable flashblock
[12:23] <Jaset> ikevin: well that was pretty simple
[12:23] <Jaset> it worked
[12:23] <ikevin> :)
[12:23] <ikevin> have good porn now :p
[12:23] <Jaset> thanks ikevin and hateball!
[12:23] <Jaset> and ofcourse ;p
[12:24] <ikevin> you welcome
[12:24] <OerHeks> .... sad :-(
[12:26] <Neural_oD> anyone here have issues with host speeds when setting up ubuntu as a kvm host. I can't seem to get better than 10MBit/s to host from external network
[12:27] <ikevin> Neural_oD, no issue, which virtual network device settings you use?
[12:28] <Neural_oD> I've set up bridged networking, and if I do a lshw - I can see that the vnet(virtual) nics are reading only 10Mbit/s max
[12:29] <Neural_oD> ikevin, the problem is that it appears to be a host issue. I've set the clients to use virtio
[12:30] <Neural_oD> but the clients will only be able to use the max of what the host "gives"
[12:30] <ikevin> Neural_oD, try to use type "e1000"
[12:30] <Neural_oD> ikevin,for the client's?
[12:31] <Neural_oD> cause I did a speed to the host, not to the clients, and am maxing out at 10Mbit/s
[12:31] <ikevin> oh, if the host is limited to 10Mb/s it's normal that client are limited to this speed too
[12:32] <Neural_oD> yes, understand that - but this is the problem - I can't figure out why the host is limiting the virtuual nics...
[12:32] <Neural_oD> I posted - maybe check my post, so you can understand a bit better:
[12:32] <Neural_oD> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2353999&p=13613289#post13613289
[12:33] <Neural_oD> ikevin, thanks for the help so far, appreciated, been really frustrated with this issue, and been scouring around. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong things
[12:34] <ikevin> Neural_oD, this append only when using bridge?
[12:36] <Neural_oD> ikevin, didn't test it before, but the lshw recognises the physical nics correctly at 1Gbit/s
[12:36] <Neural_oD> so I assume that I'd max it out at that, or whatever my laptop card maxes out on
[12:36] <ikevin> Neural_oD, so vnet are 10Mb/s, can you pastbin your kvm command line?
[12:37] <Neural_oD> ikevin, whihc kvm command line would you like?  I've set most of the client's up with virt-manager, but configured the server before
[12:38] <zerorax> hi
[12:38] <zerorax> where is the iptables rules files in 16.04?
[12:38] <ikevin> Neural_oD, start a vm a do a "ps aux | grep qemu"
[12:38] <zerorax> ufw sucks i need to go hands on for what i'm doing
[12:39] <Neural_oD> kk - give me a sec
[12:39] <OerHeks> easy to find, zerorax https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[12:39] <Neural_oD> root      1105  0.0  0.0  14224   932 pts/3    S+   14:39   0:00 grep --color=auto qemu
[12:39] <Neural_oD> libvirt+  2179  6.2 25.8 18748284 17034140 ?   Sl   Feb26  76:48 qemu-system-x86_64 -enable-kvm -name Exchange -S -machine pc-i440fx-xenial,accel=kvm,usb=off -cpu IvyBridge,hv_time,hv_relaxed,hv_vapic,hv_spinlocks=0x1fff -m 16384 -realtime mlock=off -smp 8,sockets=8,cores=1,threads=1 -uuid e6837230-6bce-4473-a3f4-75b57772b30f -no-user-config -nodefaults -chardev socket,id=charmonitor,path=/var/lib/libvirt/qemu/domain-Exchange/monitor.sock,server,nowai
[12:39] <Neural_oD> t -mon chardev=charmonitor,id=monitor,mode=control -rtc base=localtime,driftfix=slew -global kvm-pit.lost_tick_policy=discard -no-hpet -no-shutdown -global PIIX4_PM.disable_s3=1 -global PIIX4_PM.disable_s4=1 -boot menu=off,strict=on -device ich9-usb-ehci1,id=usb,bus=pci.0,addr=0x6.0x7 -device ich9-usb-uhci1,masterbus=usb.0,firstport=0,bus=pci.0,multifunction=on,addr=0x6 -device ich9-usb-uhci2,masterbus=usb.0,firstport=2,bus=pci.0,addr=0x6.0x1 -device
[12:40] <Neural_oD> ich9-usb-uhci3,masterbus=usb.0,firstport=4,bus=pci.0,addr=0x6.0x2 -device virtio-scsi-pci,id=scsi0,bus=pci.0,addr=0x8 -device ahci,id=sata0,bus=pci.0,addr=0x9 -device virtio-serial-pci,id=virtio-serial0,bus=pci.0,addr=0x5 -drive file=/var/lib/libvirt/images/Exchange.qcow2,format=qcow2,if=none,id=drive-virtio-disk0 -device virtio-blk-pci,scsi=off,bus=pci.0,addr=0xa,drive=drive-virtio-disk0,id=virtio-disk0,bootindex=2 -drive file=/var/lib/libvirt/images
[12:40] <Neural_oD> /SW_DVD9_Windows_Svr_Std_and_DataCtr_2012_R2_64Bit_English_-4_MLF_X19-82891.ISO,format=raw,if=none,media=cdrom,id=drive-sata0-0-1,readonly=on -device ide-cd,bus=sata0.1,drive=drive-sata0-0-1,id=sata0-0-1,bootindex=1 -drive file=/var/lib/libvirt/images/virtio-win-0.1.126.iso,format=raw,if=none,media=cdrom,id=drive-sata0-0-2,readonly=on -device ide-cd,bus=sata0.2,drive=drive-sata0-0-2,id=sata0-0-2 -netdev tap,fd=25,id=hostnet0,vhost=on,vhostfd=28
[12:40] <Neural_oD> -device virtio-net-pci,netdev=hostnet0,id=net0,mac=52:54:00:d6:21:44,bus=pci.0,addr=0x3 -netdev tap,fd=27,id=hostnet1,vhost=on,vhostfd=30 -device virtio-net-pci,netdev=hostnet1,id=net1,mac=52:54:00:c6:ac:b5,bus=pci.0,addr=0xb -chardev pty,id=charserial0 -device isa-serial,chardev=charserial0,id=serial0 -chardev spicevmc,id=charchannel0,name=vdagent -device virtserialport,bus=virtio-serial0.0,nr=1,chardev=charchannel0,id=channel0,name=com.redhat.spice.
[12:40] <OerHeks> don't paste like that
[12:40] <OerHeks> !paste
[12:40] <zerorax> OerHeks, I msut have been using the wrong search strings, i googled many times
[12:40] <zerorax> thanks
[12:40] <tatertots> eww...who barfed in the room
[12:41] <OerHeks> zerorax, it is where *you* store them, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Saving_iptables
[12:41] <Neural_oD> control -rtc base=utc,driftfix=slew -global kvm-pit.lost_tick_policy=discard -no-hpet -no-shutdown -global PIIX4_PM.disable_s3=1 -global PIIX4_PM.disable_s4=1 -boot menu=on,strict=on -device ich9-usb-ehci1,id=usb,bus=pci.0,addr=0x6.0x7 -device ich9-usb-uhci1,masterbus=usb.0,firstport=0,bus=pci.0,multifunction=on,addr=0x6 -device ich9-usb-uhci2,masterbus=usb.0,firstport=2,bus=pci.0,addr=0x6.0x1 -device ich9-usb-uhci3,masterbus=usb.0,firstport=4,bus=pci
[12:41] <Neural_oD> .0,addr=0x6.0x2 -device virtio-serial-pci,id=virtio-serial0,bus=pci.0,addr=0x5 -drive file=/var/lib/libvirt/images/ubuntu16.04.qcow2,format=qcow2,if=none,id=drive-virtio-disk0 -device virtio-blk-pci,scsi=off,bus=pci.0,addr=0x7,drive=drive-virtio-disk0,id=virtio-disk0,bootindex=1 -drive if=none,id=drive-ide0-0-0,readonly=on -device ide-cd,bus=ide.0,unit=0,drive=drive-ide0-0-0,id=ide0-0-0 -netdev tap,fd=28,id=hostnet0,vhost=on,vhostfd=31 -device
[12:41] <Neural_oD> virtio-net-pci,netdev=hostnet0,id=net0,mac=52:54:00:b0:ff:53,bus=pci.0,addr=0x3 -chardev pty,id=charserial0 -device isa-serial,chardev=charserial0,id=serial0 -chardev spicevmc,id=charchannel0,name=vdagent -device virtserialport,bus=virtio-serial0.0,nr=1,chardev=charchannel0,id=channel0,name=com.redhat.spice.0 -vnc 127.0.0.1:2 -device qxl-vga,id=video0,ram_size=67108864,vram_size=67108864,vgamem_mb=16,bus=pci.0,addr=0x2 -device intel-hda,id=sound0,bus=
[12:41] <Neural_oD> pci.0,addr=0x4 -device hda-duplex,id=sound0-codec0,bus=sound0.0,cad=0 -chardev spicevmc,id=charredir0,name=usbredir -device usb-redir,chardev=charredir0,id=redir0 -chardev spicevmc,id=charredir1,name=usbredir -device usb-redir,chardev=charredir1,id=redir1 -device virtio-balloon-pci,id=balloon0,bus=pci.0,addr=0x8 -msg timestamp=on
[12:41] <Neural_oD> think I've been locked out by drone :P
[12:41] <Neural_oD> oerheks -sorry - I'm new to irc channels.... sorry
[12:41] <zerorax> OerHeks, I hate when technology changes... can i have my 386 with msdos 5.0 back please
[12:41] <tryandtry> Hi, i have a process, which i like to run it on Core #0 without any context switch.
[12:42] <OerHeks> zerorax, but but but ... there are no 16 bit malware anymore
[12:42] <Neural_oD> ubottu, thanks - and sorry guys... newb here
[12:42] <tryandtry> i mean i need to allocate statically core #0 to it, is it possible?
[12:42] <zerorax> heheh:D
[12:42] <cpaelzer> tryandtry: check out isolcpu (kernel parm) and task set
[12:42] <zerorax> thanks OerHeks i'll look at those links, but i actually did find those pages, maybe i missed it because i have brain damage(i actaully do that's not sarcasm)
[12:43] <tryandtry> cpaelzer, how it can be done in C language programming?
[12:43] <cpaelzer> tryandtry: see https://codywu2010.wordpress.com/2015/09/27/isolcpus-numactl-and-taskset/ for some basics on it
[12:44] <tryandtry> i'm on it.
[12:45] <zerorax> okay.. I'm really confused... the port is open, i can connect from localhost, i can use other services from the server using the domain name and port, but this port won't open and i made the firewall rules
[12:45] <Neural_oD> ikevin, here's the link to the pastbin.... http://paste.ubuntu.com/24077938/
[12:45] <zerorax> anyone wanna help? what should i run first to give info?
[12:46] <zerorax> like, it's only accepting localhost connections on these ports it seems
[12:46] <zerorax> i did ufw allow 6002/tcp
[12:46] <zerorax> and restarted ufw
[12:46] <zerorax> I still can't connect from another computer on the network
[12:47] <zerorax> but from the serer i'm ssh'd into at the same domain with no problem, i can connect to the port with telnet and it establishes
[12:48] <codepoetn> i forgot my password
[12:48] <codepoetn> what should i do
[12:48] <zerorax> codepoetn, log in in single user recovery mode which gives you root shell, and use passwd
[12:49] <zerorax> then use passwd <username> for each user other than root
[12:49] <ikevin> Neural_oD, try to change the network virtual device to e1000 (-device virtio-net-pci to -device e1000)
[12:49] <zerorax> wait, don't make a root password
[12:49] <zerorax> just the user ones
[12:49] <ikevin> Neural_oD, or use the gui to change de device, then restart the vm
[12:49] <zerorax> any ideas on troubleshooting this issue guys?
[12:50] <OerHeks> !password
[12:50] <Neural_oD> ikevin, will give that a go, but do you think that it this would also effect the host network speed?
[12:50] <raub> zerorax: iptables -L shows the port open?
[12:50] <Neural_oD> maybe because of the bridging and bonding?
[12:51] <codepoetn> i forgot the password to sign into freenode
[12:51] <OerHeks> codepoetn, oh, join #freenode for that
[12:51] <zerorax> yes raub
[12:51] <codepoetn> i want to see whats my password for signing into this ubuntu forum, how can i see it?
[12:51] <zerorax> but it shows a DROP ALL rule before, shouldn't that be at the end after you specify what stays open?
[12:51] <UbuUser> how can i install ubuntu-tweak or unity tweak ? i tried running apt install unity-tweak-tool but without success
[12:52] <ducasse> codepoetn: this is not a forum
[12:52] <akinode> hey, this is probably a very dumb question but I have a shell script that after the initial #!/bin/bash just says cd ../ , but when I run it from terminal with bash /PATH nothing happens. what am i doing wrong?
[12:52] <codepoetn> okay irc!
[12:52] <raub> zerorax: if you turn the service off and listen using netcat, can you connect?
[12:52] <ducasse> codepoetn: then ask in #freenode
[12:52] <zerorax> let me try
[12:53] <raub> akinode: it changed directory *inside* the script. Once script ends it should go back to wher eit was
[12:53] <Neural_oD> ikevin, gonna try with the one virtual machine, but worried that the others could then effect it too, regarding the bridging....the slowest will dictate the max
[12:53] <UbuUser> also i want to install synaptic or some package manager that allows me to see different information. i dont like ubuntu software
[12:53] <UbuUser> ubuntu 16 lts
[12:54] <akinode> raub so how do I make it so the script executes the ../ as if i typed it into terminal?
[12:55] <llutz> akinode: type "source /path/to/your/script"
[12:55] <llutz> akinode: or ". /path/to/your/script"
[12:55] <zerorax> nope raub, it's still timing out
[12:56] <zerorax> i did get some unicode characters i can't read from using -v on netcat though, but i don't know what that means if anything
[12:56] <raub> llutz: I understood akinode wanted the script to change the directory and the return with the directory changed
[12:56] <tryandtry> https://codywu2010.wordpress.com/2015/09/27/isolcpus-numactl-and-taskset/
[12:57] <akinode> llutz oh okay, thanks. but when i tyepd bash /path/to/script it still executed echo commands, just not cd ../
[12:57] <akinode> why is that?
[12:57] <zerorax> sorry, i got disconnected, raub did you respond?
[12:57] <raub> zerorax: So you did nc -l 6000 (I think that was the port) on the server and then nc -v server 6000
[12:57] <ducasse> akinode: it executes it in a new shell and returns to the one it was started from on exit
[12:58] <zerorax> no i tried to telnet to it, but the result would have been the same
[12:58] <zerorax> and port is 6002
[12:58] <llutz> akinode: the cd ../ will be executed too, but in a subshell, so it won't affect your actual session
[12:58] <zerorax> i need to accept on 6001 and 6002 tcp
[12:58] <Gaby78> shut the fuck up
[12:58] <Gaby78> i joke lol
[12:58] <Gaby78> i love u
[12:58] <Neural_oD> ikevin, nope still getting this: 00:09 [11.2MiB/s] [11.2MiB/s]
[12:58] <akinode> llutz but why is echo executed in my main shell and cd ../ in the subshell?
[12:58] <Gaby78> i eat the pussy of u mom
[12:58] <zerorax> I think UFW might have put the rules in the wrong place in iptables, because there's a drop all incoming before the rules i made, is that a possibility raub?
[12:59] <Gaby78> lol
[12:59] <Gaby78> shut up
[12:59] <tryandtry> cpaelzer, so i can dedicate exactly 100% of cpu to my process?
[12:59] <llutz> akinode: the echo is shown in your terminal, but also was run in a subshell
[12:59] <akinode> so echo will be sent to all instances of bash?
[12:59] <raub> zerorax: that could make sense. I've never uses ufw. Straight iptables made more sense for little me
[12:59] <Neural_oD> ikevin, that's why I'm thiking that it's something on the host....
[12:59] <tryandtry> is it really possible?>
[12:59] <raub> akinode: echo is sent to the terminal
[12:59] <cpaelzer> tryandtry: yes
[12:59] <raub> stdout
[12:59] <Neural_oD> I can try set up another bridge, only connect one vm to that and try that too
[13:00] <llutz> akinode: it sends output to STDOUT, unless you tell different. and that is your terminal
[13:00] <cpaelzer> tryandtry: the solution I suggested was explicitly towards your requirement of "no ctx switch"
[13:00] <zerorax> raub, can I link my iptables.rules file and you can look or are you busy?
[13:00] <cpaelzer> tryandtry: that is where isolcpu helps
[13:00] <akinode> oh ok, thanks
[13:00] <tryandtry> cpaelzer, just one process switch can destroy my application, you are you sure about this solution?
[13:00] <raub> zerorax: sure. jsut make sure it is defanged
[13:00] <cpaelzer> tryandtry: yet if anything makes your process sleep you will not get 100%, but only "as much as you can consume"
[13:00] <zerorax> defanged? what's that?
[13:01] <cpaelzer> tryandtry: it will ensure that the scheduler doesn't force you to context switch
[13:01] <zerorax> I'm a total noob lol
[13:01] <raub> Imeant in case it has something sensitive you might wan tto change the IP addresses
[13:01] <cpaelzer> tryandtry: you still have to ensure that you don't cause a switch, but given that you set isolcpu it will only sleep on that cpu and then get back to you from the sleep
[13:01] <tryandtry> which event can sleep my process?
[13:01] <tryandtry> for example scanf?
[13:01] <cpaelzer> tryandtry: as nothing else is eligible to run there
[13:02] <tryandtry> so only the registered process can execute there?
[13:02] <cpaelzer> tryandtry: if you block yourself it might still go to idle and back to you
[13:02] <cpaelzer> tryandtry: so "not sleeping" is sometihng you have to solve
[13:02] <zerorax> ruab, i pm's you the link
[13:02] <cpaelzer> tryandtry: but isolcpu at least gets the scheduler out of your equation
[13:04] <gamblor3> i have 1.4gb left but it says i have no more space
[13:04] <raub> zerorax: waiting for it to load
[13:05] <raub> gamblor3: inodes?
[13:05] <zerorax> it's timing out on http for you raub?
[13:05] <raub> timing out
[13:05] <zerorax> I get it right away and it's not on my home network
[13:05] <gamblor3> what is inodes?
[13:06] <zerorax> raub, you didn't try to use https did you?
[13:06] <zerorax> because i don't have https enabled
[13:06] <raub> nope.
[13:06] <zerorax> This is strange... let me try disabling ufw completely
[13:06] <raub> Actually iy stay sserver not found
[13:06] <raub> zerorax: don't disable FW
 I can try set up another bridge, only connect one vm to that and try that too <== what do you use for test speed?
[13:07] <zerorax> raub, i meant just for a second to test if ufw is the problem
[13:07] <gamblor3> i have 1.4gb left but it says i have no more space. anyone know whats wrong. thanks
[13:07] <raub> Aha
[13:07] <zerorax> server not found is probably because I just changed the IP of the domain and it hasn't propigated to whatever dns you're using
[13:07] <raub> K
[13:08] <zerorax> 139.193.127.95, can you connect to that?
[13:08] <raub> Nope. It is staying unable to connect
[13:08] <raub> s/staying/saying
[13:08] <zerorax> ok, gonna turn off ufw one sec
[13:09] <zerorax> try now?
[13:10] <zerorax> if that doesn't work i gotta call the hosting provider
[13:10] <raub> zerorax: nope. If all else fails, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[13:11] <zerorax> raub. i just realized this might be because of me trying to set up a vpn and falling asleep while i was working
[13:11] <zerorax> is that likely?
 I'm using nc for a speed test, I also tried iperf3 with the same results
[13:11] <raub> That might cause some heartaches depending on who is using which interface
[13:12] <ikevin> Neural_oD, i tryed on another vm that use default virtio driver, and i get 99mb/s over internet
[13:12] <zerorax> raub, I'll just reinstall my os, it'll be faster than troubleshooting this(it will take under 10 minutes with this provider to get a fresh image up, and running.
[13:13] <raub> zerorax: Ok. Make sur eyou saved everything you wanted.
[13:13] <raub> When you are ready, let me know how your iptables looks like and what you are trying to accomplish
[13:13] <zerorax> raub, there is nothing i wanted. I spent all day yesterday dealing with domain name bullshit and never set up the server
[13:14] <Neural_oD> ikevin: yes that's why I'm thinking there's an issue on the host..
[13:14] <zerorax> and before the domain stuff i had just ordered the server, other than wasting bandwidth installing a lot of stuff, no harm done
[13:14] <raub> Cool
[13:15] <zerorax> thanks for your help raub, may I highlight you in 20 mins if i'm still having a problem so you can help me get more info to give to my hosting provider?
[13:15] <raub> Sure
[13:15] <raub> I might take a bit to reply but I will be here
[13:15] <zerorax> Ok, thanks man
[13:15] <zerorax> I really appreciate when people on IRC help me, i have brain damage and finding the right info myself is really hard since it happened
[13:16] <zerorax> I can read the right doc completely and not see the answer because I'm not processing what I'm reading
[13:16] <zerorax> irc small paragraphs are easy to follow
[13:16] <raub> zerorax: The smart man knows his limitations and work around them
[13:17] <raub> So you are doing allright
[13:17] <zerorax> the smart man doesn't do MMA sparring at full strength with guys way above his weight class either though
[13:17] <zerorax> which is what caused this
[13:18] <raub> zerorax: it still beats a "hold my beer" moment
[13:18] <raub> i.e. the redneck death anthem
[13:18] <zerorax> heh
[13:19] <zerorax> did you know wearing padded gloves actually makes the head trauma worse? they use them because if you hit bare fist you will bleed too much and that ruins the sport because the show is over as soon as your eyes swell shut
[13:20] <zerorax> sorry that's offtopic, let me work on my vps
[13:20] <raub> So when I try to login on my 16.04 LTS ubuntu  box, I am getting the "failed to start session at login" error. Using xfce; did not install ubuntu-desktop becaus eof too much cruft
[13:20] <raub> zerorax: no worries.
[13:21] <raub> the solutions I am finding online pretty much say to install ubuntu-desktop
[13:21] <tatertots> lol well yeah
[13:21] <ioria> raub, you're on ubuntu 16.04 without ubuntu-desktop ?
[13:22] <raub> ioria: why not?
[13:22] <raub> Install server and then add a windows manager
[13:22] <ioria> raub, you install via mini.iso ?
[13:22] <raub> ioria: server
[13:22] <ioria> raub, ah, ok
[13:22] <raub> Would have done mini if I was smart ;)
[13:23] <ioria> raub, using lightdm ?
[13:23] <CrazyTux> hello, I am not able to share folders in Virtual Box. What can I do?
[13:25] <raub> ioria: yep
[13:25] <okwaho> crazytux: did you install vbox guest additions?
[13:25] <Gaby78> gbgb
[13:25] <raub> CrazyTux: what did you do to share folders?
[13:25] <zerorax> raub, can you just try doing anything to that server, ping, http request, ssh, i don't care
[13:25] <CrazyTux> yes. I have installed.
[13:25] <zerorax> just see if you can reach it now
[13:26] <zerorax> I can, but I could before
[13:26] <Gaby78> any french here ?
[13:26] <okwaho> oui moi
[13:26] <Gaby78> BAH TG
[13:26] <ioria> raub, you can check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and (if exists) ~/.xsession-errors
[13:26] <CrazyTux> Unable to insert the virtual optical disk /home/User/.config/VirtualBox/VBoxGuestAdditions_5.1.6.iso into the machine Sparky Linux.Would you like to try to force insertion of this disk?
[13:27] <okwaho> crazy tux i would say yes
[13:27] <ioria> raub,  alternatively , you can install again with xubuntu-desktop
[13:27] <Fenriz> Drone: can you ban Gaby78: he insult other in french
[13:27] <Gaby78> okwaho tu peut m'aider
[13:27] <raub> zerorax: Time to live exceeded
[13:27] <CrazyTux> this is the message I am getting when I try to insert Guest Additions.
[13:27] <zerorax> raub, what does that mean?
[13:27] <okwaho> vasy gaby78
[13:27] <aiden95> yoooooooooooo
[13:27] <Gaby78> aiden is a pedophile go ban please !!!!!!!!!!!
[13:27] <aiden95> nique ta mere  fdp
[13:27] <aiden95> vive les blanc
[13:27] <Gaby78> PLEASE BAN AIDEN95 IS  A PÊDOPHILE
[13:27] <CrazyTux> there are only two options available Cancel and Force Unmount.
[13:27] <Fenriz> how to ruin a tchat :/ sry bro
[13:27] <Gaby78> shut up
[13:28] <aiden95> the name of your gang nigga
[13:28] <aiden95> bloods
[13:28] <raub> zerorax: I think you are still having DNS issues. Thought I entered the IP
[13:28] <okwaho> crazytux: force eject then
[13:28] <zerorax> the ip worked?
[13:28] <zerorax> DNS takes time to propigate so that's fine I set it up 10 minutes before we started
[13:28] <raub> I entered the IP
[13:28] <Gaby78> crazytux shut up
[13:28] <aiden95> pirate my ip pls
[13:28] <zerorax> and it worked raud?
[13:29] <zerorax> *raub
[13:29] <okwaho> crazytux: you should see on the bottom shred folders settings...right click on it tell me what you see
[13:29] <Gaby78> aiden95 i,  a PEDOPHILE
[13:29] <aiden95> theo@theo-System-Product-Name:~$ ifconfig
[13:29] <aiden95> eth2      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 20:cf:30:20:09:a4
[13:29] <aiden95>           inet addr:192.168.12.74  Bcast:192.168.12.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[13:29] <aiden95>           inet6 addr: fe80::22cf:30ff:fe20:9a4/64 Scope:Link
[13:29] <aiden95>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[13:29] <aiden95>           RX packets:24857 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[13:29] <raub> zerorax: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24078117/
[13:29] <CrazyTux> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24078115/
[13:29] <CrazyTux> this is the detailed error message.
[13:30] <zerorax> ok raub, I'm gonna call the hosting provider
[13:30] <Gaby78> theo@theo-System-Product-Name:~$ ifconfig
 eth2      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 20:cf:30:20:09:a4
[13:30] <zerorax> is the ip you're connected from your real ip? just so i know what info to tell them so they can fix the problem easier
           inet addr:192.168.12.74  Bcast:192.168.12.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
           inet6 addr: fe80::22cf:30ff:fe20:9a4/64 Scope:Link
           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
           RX packets:24857 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[13:31] <raub> zerorax: that would be my home box
[13:31] <raub> I can use a direct IP too
[13:31] <Fenriz> ip of Aiden95: 46. 218. 140. 78.
[13:32] <Gaby78> hack him
[13:32] <Gaby78> theo@theo-System-Product-Name:~$ ifconfig
 eth2      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 20:cf:30:20:09:a4
           inet addr:192.168.12.74  Bcast:192.168.12.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
           inet6 addr: fe80::22cf:30ff:fe20:9a4/64 Scope:Link
           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[13:32] <zerorax> can you try another ip? maybe it's just you, also, are you somewhere where the government would block access to political activists?
[13:32] <theparadoxer02> i am not able to upgrade from 15.10 to latest version!
[13:33] <theparadoxer02> I tried the following command "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[13:33] <raub> zerorax: Don't know who is 202.73.96.74
[13:34] <in98> hello
[13:34] <EriC^^> !ltsupgrades | theparadoxer02
[13:34] <zerorax> Yeah your government might literally be blocking it because it's m
[13:34] <zerorax> me
[13:34] <in98> I can't boot with this on my vm, what am I doing wrong? UUID=xxx /tmp ext4 defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0
[13:34] <EriC^^> !eolupgrades | theparadoxer02
[13:35] <zerorax> let me get other people to test it out, and see if anyone else has problems reaching it
[13:35] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, Then how do i upgrade ?
[13:35] <EriC^^> in98: are you sure it's mode=1777 or umask=1777 ?
[13:35] <zerorax> I can reach it fine, but I'm located physically close to the server
[13:35] <theparadoxer02> my error log files are http://paste.ubuntu.com/24078136/
[13:36] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: did you put the releaseupgrade archive in the sources.list?
[13:37] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: try "echo $PATH" and paste it also "which rm" and "which chmod"
[13:40] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, how do i put the relaseupgrade archive in sources.list ?
 Hi everyone
 There is a terrible bug in Mozilla FireFox working on Lubuntu 32-bi
 When I click in a hyperlink contente an email (like mailto:name@domain.excetera) mozilla oper a tab with the name of email in the searchboard FOREVER
 if you try to close Mozilla he reopen and open tab that you can close because open every second!
 4 or 5 for second!
 I'm using on Lubuntu (maybe 14.04 32bit)
[13:41] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: paste the info above, as well as cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:41] <theparadoxer02> okay!
[13:42] <equipment> Good day all, I just bought a laptop asus x441s I'm using ubuntu mate 17.01, my sonic master internal speakers can't be recognized any idea how to get it work? thanks
[13:44] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24078190/
[13:44] <theparadoxer02> and other info here http://paste.ubuntu.com/24078195/
[13:46] <raub> zerorax: i tried from Europe and US
[13:46] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: type "lsb_release -dc"
[13:46] <raub> zerorax: You will need to test from a machine in a diff location
[13:47] <theparadoxer02> Description:	Ubuntu 15.10
[13:47] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, Codename:	wily
[13:47] <EriC^^> what's the codename?
[13:47] <theparadoxer02> wily
[13:48] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: sudo sed -i 's/xenial/wily/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:49] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, done
[13:50] <vapa> equipment: you mean 17.04 Beta 1 ? This is unstable software, so anything could happen.
[13:50] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: sudo apt-get update
[13:50] <OerHeks> !17.04
[13:52] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, i am getting many 404 errors
[13:52] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: it's odd i didn't find wily in the list of releases there, though it's listed in the info
[13:53] <EriC^^> anybody know about this? vivid isn't there too
[13:53] <theparadoxer02> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24078240/
[13:53] <OerHeks> EriC^^, he should just use the eolupgrade trick
[13:53] <EriC^^> list of stuff http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[13:53] <EriC^^> OerHeks: that's what he's trying to do
[13:53] <EriC^^> it's not there though
[13:53] <EriC^^> after utopic there's nothing
[13:54] <ducasse> EriC^^: iirc, wily is still in the regular repos for some reason
[13:54] <EriC^^> ducasse: aha
[13:54] <ducasse> EriC^^: at least it was for a very long time
[13:54] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: type "sudo sed -i 's/old-releases/archive/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:54] <OerHeks> now it is malformed > missing /ubuntu/ >> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ CODENAME main restricted universe multiverse
[13:55] <gambl0re> hi guys, i cant log into ubuntu. http://i.imgur.com/NMkV1rt.jpg
[13:55] <gambl0re> can anyone help? thanks
[13:55] <EriC^^> OerHeks: where did you get that from?
[13:56] <OerHeks> gambl0re, error says disc full, or it is RO ?
[13:56] <gambl0re> what is ro?
[13:56] <OerHeks> EriC^^, from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Upgrading
[13:56] <OerHeks> read-only
[13:56] <EriC^^> OerHeks: ah i see mine has /ubuntu too
[13:56] <gambl0re> i had 1.4gb disc space last time i checked
[13:56] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, done!
[13:56] <gambl0re> i dont know if its read only
[13:56] <EriC^^> OerHeks: his sources.list is good though
[13:56] <gambl0re> its running inside a virtualbox
[13:57] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: ok, so try sudo apt-get update again
[13:57] <theparadoxer02> again same errors!
[13:57] <OerHeks> EriC^^, no, it is not.
[13:58] <EriC^^> OerHeks: yes it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/24078190/
[13:58] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: paste cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:59] <OerHeks> oh, i was looking at the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com/24078240/.. you are correct then.
[13:59] <EriC^^> OerHeks: :)
[13:59] <EriC^^> ducasse: you're right, wily is in the normal repos, with vivid as well
[13:59] <theparadoxer02> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24078270/
[14:00] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: you made a typo earlier somewhere
[14:00] <gambl0re> hello?
[14:00] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: anyways type "sudo sed -i 's/archives/archive/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:01] <regdude> Hi! Ubuntu (at least 14.03) has a UPS monitor built-in at the notification area. Does anyone know how it is called? Or is it a precompiled extension for Unity?
[14:01] <The_Myth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24078279/
[14:01] <The_Myth> how do i upgrade the kernel?
[14:01] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, i ran the following command now "sudo sed -i 's/archives/archive/g' /etc/apt/sources.list"
[14:02] <EriC^^> The_Myth: type "uname -r" and paste here
[14:03] <The_Myth> EriC^^: 2.6.32-042stab108.8
[14:04] <OerHeks> The_Myth, looks like an openVZ or redhat kernel
[14:04] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: ok, try sudo apt-get update again
[14:04] <equipment> vapa: thanks for the note
[14:04] <The_Myth> so, i cant upgrade it?
[14:04] <theparadoxer02> doing the same!
[14:05] <zerorax> raub, I can connect from 12,400 IP's... I just used my friends botnet to test it
[14:05] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: pastebin the output of it
[14:05] <zerorax> also, don't tell my friend i hacked is botnet
[14:05] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: as well as cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:05] <zerorax> for a hacker, he really likes to reuse passwords and share them with friends
[14:05] <zerorax> s/hacker/skid
[14:06] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, updating/downloadin now, how long will it take ?
[14:07] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: like minimum 2 hours maybe on a 4mbps connection if you dont have too many programs installed i guess?
[14:07] <The_Myth> is it possible to update it, or i need to request it to the DC?
[14:07] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: or an hour-ish
[14:08] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: make sure you dont connect any hdmi or disconnect any while it does it (don't ask how i know :D )
[14:08] <EriC^^> The_Myth: easiest would be to request it i think
[14:09] <theparadoxer02> cool! EriC^^
[14:10] <hateball> musician_pro: iirc you can set what program handles mailto links in firefox, so you could change to something like evolution or thunderbird
[14:11] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, some duplicate entry list found error
[14:11] <The_Myth> EriC^^: so, i cant upgrade it just for my vps?
[14:11] <maja> any one recomend a way to do a vedio of my screen while i speake over the top of it ? i need to show some one how somehting is done
[14:11] <zerorax> to confirm raub the probelm, other than you not reaching me, is fixed with the wipe and reload, so most likely related to me trying to set up openvpn server while intoxicated and awake for almost 3 days
[14:12] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24078356/
[14:12] <zerorax> and by intoxicated I mean I had a panic attack and took valium, i wasn't partying
[14:12] <EriC^^> The_Myth: possibly, i've no idea though
[14:12] <OerHeks> maja, video? recordmydesktop perhaps?
[14:12] <EriC^^> The_Myth: if nobody knows here the guys in #ubuntu-server might have an idea
[14:12] <OerHeks> !info recordmydesktop
[14:13] <ducasse> The_Myth: you need to ask your provider, if this is openvz you might be stuck with that kernel
[14:13] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: looks like a harmless warning, anyways try sudo apt-get update again, does it still do it?
[14:13] <The_Myth> i guess it's openvz
[14:14] <ducasse> The_Myth: if it's a cheapo provider, that is highly likely
[14:14] <The_Myth> ducasse: it's a cheap one yes.. lol
[14:14] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, again i am getiing the same error
[14:15] <ducasse> The_Myth: the very, very cheap ones often use openvz, which is really more of a container system as the kernel is shared
[14:16] <The_Myth> then, i'm stuck, i guess
[14:16] <maja> OerHeks: i can record sound with that as well ?
[14:16] <maja> OerHeks: you know what i want todo is say click here enter this do that, ext
[14:16] <ducasse> The_Myth: as i said, ask them. or see if there is a faq on their site.
[14:16] <OerHeks> maja, sure, sound from youtube + mic
[14:17] <The_Myth> ducasse: i've opened a ticket. let's see :D
[14:17] <maja> OerHeks: will give it a try thnks :)
[14:17] <The_Myth> OerHeks: what about kazam? is good too?
[14:18] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: ah there are duplicates in the sources.list
[14:18] <theparadoxer02> so should i remove them manually ?
[14:19] <OerHeks> The_Myth, that works too
[14:19] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: yes, type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and remove the first 3 lines that start with "deb"
[14:20] <The_Myth> erm.. now i have a small problem and i dont remember how to do it properly: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24078380/ how do i set it to en_US.UTF-8 global and persistent?
[14:21] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, done !
[14:21] <theparadoxer02> now its updated!, no error now !
[14:21] <theparadoxer02> what next ?
[14:21] <ducasse> The_Myth: /etc/default/locale
[14:22] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: try sudo do-release-upgrade
[14:23] <KristjanR> Tere
[14:23] <KristjanR> Kas siin naisi ka on
[14:23] <KristjanR> :)
[14:23] <The_Myth> ducasse: file is empty. how do i generate allt he locales? :x
[14:23] <The_Myth> all the*
[14:24] <ducasse> The_Myth: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24078399/
[14:25] <krizoek> im trying to disable ubuntu cpu scaling. i did many things, like this`rm -f /etc/rc?.d/S99ondemand` and this `for CPUFREQ in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor; do [ -f $CPUFREQ ] || continue; echo -n performance > $CPUFREQ; done` and this `cpufreq-set -g performance`, but still the cpu scaling is only at 90%:  https://bpaste.net/show/6a13fc7e081c
[14:26] <krizoek> i mean, it was lower than 90% before, but now it ended up at 90%
[14:26] <krizoek> i'd like for the scaling to become 100%. any ideas?
[14:27] <gambl0re> hi guys, i cant log into ubuntu. http://i.imgur.com/NMkV1rt.jpg http://i.imgur.com/JXHde3c.png
[14:27] <gambl0re> it says disk full but i have 1.6gb remaining
[14:28] <ducasse> gambl0re: what does 'df -i' say?
[14:29] <gambl0re> blob:http://imgur.com/37b10fd3-c0ce-48b1-99cd-64004d6e8958
[14:30] <gambl0re> ducasse,
[14:30] <OerHeks> last imgur does not exist
[14:30] <gambl0re> blob:http://imgur.com/37b10fd3-c0ce-4http://i.imgur.com/qnvNLKw.png8b1-99cd-64004d6e8958
[14:30] <gambl0re> http://i.imgur.com/qnvNLKw.png
[14:31] <ducasse> gambl0re: you've run out of inodes
[14:31] <OerHeks> great, 2 pics without space ..
[14:31] <gambl0re> the pics dont work?
[14:32] <ducasse> gambl0re: http://askubuntu.com/questions/231585/running-out-of-inodes#231615
[14:33] <gambl0re> inodes?
[14:35] <ducasse> gambl0re: read the link
[14:38] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24078426/
[14:38] <The_Myth> ducasse: still have some in pt_PT.UTF-8.. is there a way to set them all at once with en_US.UTF-8? any CLI command?
[14:39] <ducasse> The_Myth: did you log out/in?
[14:39] <The_Myth> yes, i did
[14:41] <The_Myth> ducasse: done now
[14:42] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, are you still here ?
[14:44] <ducasse> The_Myth: you may need to run locale-gen
[14:44] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: yeah
[14:45] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: seems ok i guess
[14:46] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: hit yes and see the packages it removes
[14:46] <mircea789> on ubuntu 16.04 i remove ubuntu-software and later i reinstalled ubuntu-software,but now don't work!please help!
[14:48] <theparadoxer02> when i tries installing curl, i am getiing the same errors
[14:49] <theparadoxer02> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24078459/
[14:49] <mvvvv> mircea789, can you launch gnome-software ?
[14:49] <theparadoxer02> the same error is occuring whenever i tried install any app
[14:49] <EriC^^> mircea789: try launching it from the terminal
[14:52] <r_rios> Hello, all. I can't connect to my ethernet network for some reason. It just keeps trying to connect, but never succeeds
[14:52] <r_rios> I found someone saying that I should disable the WakeOnLan functionality on Windows 10. I did that and it didn't work
[14:53] <r_rios> My ethernet adapter is an nvidia onboard adapter.
[14:56] <hateball> r_rios: can you run "lspci -v" and pastebin the ethernet bit?
[14:57] <scam> r_rios, why would your windows 10 setup have anything to do with your ubuntu install for ethernet?
[14:57] <scam> are you running it in VM in windows?
[14:58] <Takumo> Hi all, I've got a bit of a weird issue with a filesystem
[14:59] <Takumo> I've run out of inodes (whoops!) and I found most of them are being used up by obselete linux-header packages
[14:59] <Takumo> but I can't purge them due to a dependency on a version which fails to install
[14:59] <Takumo> how can I force the removal of the hold linux-headers packages?
[15:00] <Krissman> any girls, that want to chat with a charming 33 year old Estonian man? e-mail: kriss5@mail.com
[15:01] <ikonia> Krissman: no
[15:01] <ikonia> Krissman: please don't ask again, that is not what this channel is for
[15:01] <Krissman> I am not pointing you
[15:02] <OerHeks> Krissman, read the topic, wrong channel dud
[15:04] <nicomachus> ur a dud
[15:04] <compdoc> its not Krissman's fault. we have better looking women in here than in any other channel
[15:05] <mvvvv> Takumo, use an ax : http://askubuntu.com/questions/652802/how-do-i-remove-old-kernels-despite-100-inode-use-in-usr
[15:05] <r_rios> scam: I don't know, but some people with the same issue as me said that this was the problem
[15:05] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: try sudo apt-get -f install
[15:05] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: any backstory to the pc?
[15:06] <scam> r_rios, send us the info hateball wanted to see
[15:07] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: type "dpkg -S /usr/bin/sa-compile"
[15:07] <r_rios> hateball: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24078524/
[15:07] <r_rios> scam:
[15:08] <mvvvv> r_rios, and paste also : journalctl -p4 | cat
[15:09] <scam> r_rios, did you try this ? https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963765
[15:09] <thebwt> hey folks, I'm trying to find the debug symbols for php5-mcrypt (a 14.04 box), anyone know where to find them?
[15:09] <thebwt> I assume it's a dbgsym package. In fedora we have to enable a second repo for them, does ubuntu do this differently?
[15:12] <OerHeks> thebwt, this page might be your help >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages
[15:13] <thebwt> that was my starting point
[15:14] <r_rios> scam: I think I did, but I'll try it again
[15:23] <finexbeer> hi
[15:25] <finexbeer> how can  i send file to you guys
[15:25] <finexbeer> ?
[15:25] <OerHeks> finexbeer, text or picture?
[15:25] <finexbeer> text
[15:25] <OerHeks> paste.ubuntu.com
[15:28] <tgm4883> Using KRDC on 16.04, when I RDP to a Win 10 VM I get no audio devices. Is there something additional I need to install to be able to hear the win 10 audio?
[15:30] <z1haze_work> I need some help with web server permissions
[15:30] <ikonia> just ask
[15:30] <z1haze_work> I have apache installed, www-data:www-data but i am installing a web application with php's composer, and there are console commands that get executred to clear caches in files, and everytime i do this, i resets permissions for my vendor folder and i have to go back and chmod again
[15:31] <z1haze_work> i need a correct way to go about this so that doesnt happen
[15:31] <ikonia> z1haze_work: you shouldn't be running composer in the web root
[15:31] <ikonia> you should be moving in a a dependency matched application
[15:31] <z1haze_work> huh
[15:31] <ikonia> if this is a non-production (development process) just change the ownership of the webroot to the user you are working with
[15:31] <z1haze_work> composer is always run in the doc root..
[15:32] <ikonia> z1haze_work: no, it's not
[15:32] <aditya> Hello?
[15:32] <ikonia> z1haze_work: you really think production applications will allow a process to pull a load of things directly from the internet ?
[15:32] <z1haze_work> thats how composer works
[15:32] <ikonia> z1haze_work: no, thats how you are using it
[15:32] <z1haze_work> enlighten me please
[15:33] <ikonia> z1haze_work: your composer dependencies should be met outside of your host, and shipped to your production host as part of the application install, eg: a deb,
[15:33] <ikonia> z1haze_work: or you should be using a satis server (toran)
[15:33] <z1haze_work> that would require all of vendor to be in version control.
[15:33] <z1haze_work> thats silly
[15:33] <ioria> tgm4883, yes, there is a 'Sound' Host Config Panel, but i think you already set it : https://www.jucktion.com/tech/krdc-remote-desktop-application-ubuntu/
[15:34] <ikonia> even then it should not be pulled directly into the web root
[15:34] <z1haze_work> anyway, this is not production, its development. can you help with that
[15:34] <ikonia> z1haze_work: nothing siller about it at all
[15:34] <ikonia> z1haze_work: yes, I just told you, change the owner of the document root to the user you are working as
[15:34] <z1haze_work> the problem is web server permissions
[15:34] <ikonia> z1haze_work: yes, and I've just told you how to fix it on a non-production host
[15:34] <z1haze_work> the console commands are being run by the logged in user
[15:35] <ikonia> z1haze_work: right, so make that user the owner
[15:35] <tgm4883> ioria: Yea, I already have that set to "On This Computer"
[15:35] <ikonia> (or group)
[15:35] <z1haze_work> can you chill and understand the situation
[15:35] <ikonia> I am chilled
[15:35] <z1haze_work> its not the user who is having permissions issues
[15:35] <z1haze_work> its the webserver
[15:35] <ikonia> yes, I understand that
[15:35] <z1haze_work> so making the user the owner of the files solves nothing
[15:36] <ikonia> so there won't be web server permission problems
[15:36] <ioria> tgm4883,  you can try rdesktop, to double check
[15:36] <ikonia> z1haze_work: it will, as that user will create files that are owned by / group owned by the same user running the web server
[15:36] <ikonia> as www-data is a non-interactive user, it will always cause problems for you while you are updating as a real user
[15:36] <ikonia> hence why composer should not be run in the web root on a production machine
[15:36] <ikonia> (for example)
[15:36] <tgm4883> ioria: installing it now
[15:36] <z1haze_work> usually what i do is su into www-data and run the commands
[15:37] <z1haze_work> but that requires permission in itself and not everyone can do that
[15:37] <ikonia> z1haze_work: thats bad
[15:37] <ikonia> z1haze_work: as www-data is a non-interactive user
[15:37] <ikonia> the whole purpose of that user is not be locked out to users
[15:37] <z1haze_work> yea i know but that way at least all of the files installed with composer were owned by the web user
[15:38] <ikonia> z1haze_work: right, which is why I'm telling you, you are doing it wrong, and how to fix that if you insist on doing it wrong
[15:38] <z1haze_work> the issue comes about when running symfonys console commands to clear cache and such, it clears vendor files and stuff and since those commands are run by a different user, it changes permissions for vendor, thus the web sever throws errors
[15:38] <z1haze_work> look dude
[15:38] <ikonia> I understand the problem, you don't have to keep giving examples of it
[15:38] <z1haze_work> the application has console commands built into it
[15:38] <ikonia> so ?
[15:38] <z1haze_work> they HAVE To be run from the web root
[15:38] <z1haze_work> HAVE TO
[15:39] <ikonia> that has nothing to do with file system permissions
[15:39] <ikonia> fix the permissions
[15:39] <ikonia> but its up to you if you do
[15:39] <ikonia> no you don't HAVE TO
[15:39] <z1haze_work> lol i think im just not understanding
[15:39] <finexbeer> what ubuntu are you useng
[15:39] <ikonia> z1haze_work: it's not a hard concept,
[15:39] <z1haze_work> im not trying to be mean i just dont think we're seeing things the same way
[15:39] <z1haze_work> i have 10 users, the web server cant be owned by 10 different users
[15:39] <ikonia> z1haze_work: change the owner of the web server (or group) to be the users (or group) you are using
[15:39] <ikonia> z1haze_work: it can, thats why there are groups
[15:39] <z1haze_work> i kinda did it the other way
[15:40] <z1haze_work> i added the users to www-data
[15:40] <z1haze_work> but it sitll didnt fix it
[15:40] <ikonia> no, because thats not an interactive user
[15:40] <z1haze_work> so i add www-data to the user groups?
[15:40] <ikonia> a.) fix file permissions mask b.) sort out group permissions on www-data
[15:40] <finexbeer> time
[15:40] <z1haze_work> ok.. so check this - if i add z1haze group to www-data as you suggest
[15:41] <ikonia> z1haze_work: there needs to be a group that owns that directory, your users need to be in that group, the web server needs to be run as that group, or the current owner needs to be in that group
[15:41] <z1haze_work> then you're saying to change ownership of the website to z1haze, right?
[15:41] <finexbeer> hello
[15:41] <ikonia> z1haze_work: no
[15:41] <ikonia> re-read what I said
[15:41] <z1haze_work> what happens in johnsmith logs in and wants to work on the web server.. he doesnt own files by z1haze
[15:41] <z1haze_work> ok
[15:41] <z1haze_work> there needs to be a group that owns that directory, your users need to be in that group, the web server needs to be run as that group, or the current owner needs to be in that group
[15:41] <z1haze_work> right?
[15:42] <tgm4883> ioria: that's a bit better. It's using alsa, but I at least have some sound now. Doesn't recognize my mic though
[15:42] <ikonia> correct
[15:42] <z1haze_work> its owned by www-data:www-data, users has group www-data
[15:42] <ioria> tgm4883,  i see ....
[15:42] <z1haze_work> and i see you are talking about an interactive user, whatever
[15:42] <z1haze_work> i still dont see how that fixes permissions
[15:42] <z1haze_work> you're saying create a new group? add that group to www-data and the users?
[15:43] <ikonia> nope
[15:43] <z1haze_work> well im lost then
[15:43] <ikonia> ok
[15:43] <z1haze_work> becuase i think the issue lies with the permissions that is being set from the commands
[15:43] <z1haze_work> its probably 644 or something
[15:43] <ikonia> correct
[15:43] <z1haze_work> so even if they belong to the group
[15:43] <ikonia> which is why I said fix the file creation mask first
[15:43] <z1haze_work> its not going to help
[15:43] <z1haze_work> ah
[15:43] <z1haze_work> like u+x?
[15:44] <ikonia> like "whatever it needs to be"
[15:44] <ikonia> the easy answer is to stop running this in the web root
[15:44] <ikonia> run it outside and just copy it in
[15:44] <z1haze_work> it has to be run in the web root thats how magento works
[15:44] <z1haze_work> i didnt make it
[15:44] <ikonia> no it doesn't
[15:44] <finexbeer> ikonia what  ubuntu are u useng
[15:44] <z1haze_work> sigh
[15:45] <ikonia> finexbeer: why ?
[15:45] <finexbeer> just asking
[15:45] <ikonia> multiple versions
[15:45] <finexbeer> ok
[15:46] <finexbeer> who want to try my new program??
[15:46] <z1haze_work> how are you saying thats not how it works?
[15:46] <z1haze_work> are you a magento2 developer too?
[15:46] <finexbeer> who??
[15:47] <ikonia> finexbeer: no-one
[15:47] <ikonia> finexbeer: thats not what this channel is for, please don't ask
[15:47] <OerHeks> finexbeer, you ask for a txt paste site, and never returned...  please don't advertise in here, this is ubuntu support only
[15:47] <OerHeks> join #ubuntu-offtopic for that please
[15:47] <scam> finexbeer, why would i want to run your software...
[15:47] <BluesKaj> heh, good luck with that finexbeer , this isn't place for trying to get gunea pigs for your software
[15:47] <ikonia> don't
[15:47] <finexbeer> ok sorry
[15:47] <ikonia> offtopic doesn't want to hear about it either
[15:47] <z1haze_work> ikonia: you are telling me that the console commands for the application do not have to be run in the site root. which is clearly wrong
[15:47] <z1haze_work> id like you to explain yourself if you dont mind
[15:47] <finexbeer> what channel can i got
[15:48] <ikonia> nope
[15:48] <z1haze_work> unless the official docs are wrong, im going to learn toward you being wrong
[15:48] <ikonia> explain what ?
[15:48] <ikonia> ok, then ignore my info and carry on
[15:48] <z1haze_work> just asking for a justification.
[15:48] <z1haze_work> no need to get mad
[15:48] <ikonia> I'm not mad
[15:48] <z1haze_work> so justify it
[15:48] <ikonia> "you don't need to do it"
[15:48] <ikonia> there you go
[15:51] <RonWhoCares> I'd like to change my terminal color so the background is black and typing in the command line is white
[15:51] <RonWhoCares> Is there a way to do this?
[15:52] <ikonia> xset ?
[15:52] <finexbeer> yes the is
[15:53] <ikonia> you're better off doing it through the menu though so it gets saved into the terminal config via the window manager
[15:53] <OerHeks> RonWhoCares,  that sounds like gnome-terminal standard colours ?
[15:53] <ducasse> RonWhoCares: depends on your terminal how to set it
[15:53] <RonWhoCares> Yes
[15:53] <RonWhoCares> How do I get them back?
[15:54] <ikonia> get them back to what ?
[15:54] <ducasse> RonWhoCares: look in the preferences
[15:54] <OerHeks> gnome-terminal > edit > profile-pref > colors
[15:55] <RonWhoCares> thank you
[15:56] <RonWhoCares> How do I get the default system theme colors back?
[15:56] <RonWhoCares> Right now the bars at the top of whites are white
[15:56] <ikonia> there is an option that says "use default colour scheme"
[15:56] <ikonia> or words to that effect in the perferences
[15:56] <RonWhoCares> Yes, I found that.l  Implemented
[15:57] <quadruple> Hi, I have a >70 GiB /var/lib/docker/aufs/diff directory and I need some help cleaning up my system. I guess I am starting/stopping/changing the container in a wrong way but first I would like to know how to safely remove the commits? (sry for writing in #ubuntu but in #docker tehy are pretty silent)
[15:58] <ikonia> quadruple: it's as safe as your setup, we don't know what you are using/not using
[15:59] <ikonia> quadruple: you need to look at docker --help to get the syntax to remove unneeded stuff, but we don't know what you still need/don't need
[15:59] <craptalk> i am running gnome 16.04 on my lenovo IP 310, and my screen blank after hibernation, why is it?
[15:59] <craptalk> i dont have the answer for this
[15:59] <finexbeer> what is the code to install java programing in the terminal
[16:00] <ikonia> finexbeer: do you mean the java jvm ?
[16:00] <finexbeer> yes
[16:00] <ikonia> so you need to look for the package containing the version you want, and then apt-get install $package_name
[16:00] <ikonia> or use the gui
[16:01] <ikonia> there are multiple jvm versions
[16:01] <helo> does ubuntu backport python security patches? e.g. security fixes for python 2.7.13 will be ported to 2.7.12?
[16:01] <ikonia> helo: dependss on the fix
[16:01] <finexbeer> thatnks
[16:01] <ikonia> looking at the debian change logs should give you an idea
[16:11] <raub> ioria: sorry for taking so long to reply. I saw no recent errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or ~/.xsession-errors even as I was trying to login again
[16:14] <raub> I've never installed xubuntu-desktop per se. Just did xfce (and later lxde which I prefer)
[16:18] <prajwal_> hello
[16:18] <prajwal_> anyone?
[16:18] <prajwal_> hello
[16:19] <nicomachus> hi
[16:19] <prajwal_> i want some help can anyone help me
[16:19] <nicomachus> prajwal_: do you have a support question?
[16:19] <prajwal_> i'm unable to run my php project
[16:20] <prajwal_> web project
[16:20] <nicomachus> !details | please prajwal_
[16:20] <prajwal_> i have already setup lamp every thing works properly
[16:21] <prajwal_> but when i try to run my web project it won't load in browser
[16:21] <nicomachus> prajwal_: again, going to need more details please. start at the beginning.
[16:21] <prajwal_> browser goes empty
[16:22] <prajwal_> nicomachus are you a person or computer software?
[16:22] <nicomachus> i'm a person
[16:23] <nicomachus> but I have no idea what your issue is because all you've said is, basically, "my php project won't load". So as of now I'm just going to say it's not an Ubuntu issue, and you need to talk to some PHP folks.
[16:23] <prajwal_> then try to understand.I m unable to explain my problem
[16:24] <prajwal_> i dont know whats wrong
[16:24] <prajwal_> ok
[16:24] <prajwal_> so where can i find them?
[16:24] <nicomachus> try /join ##php
[16:25] <prajwal_> ok thanks
[16:25] <ems36> Just tell him what you want to do how you are doing it and what happens
[16:26] <z1haze_work> hi again - what permissions would be needed to run chmod g+w on a directory? i have the user executing the command in the same group as a filesystem owner, and permissions for files 644 and folders 770
[16:26] <z1haze_work> i feel like ive done it correctly, but keep getting no permission
[16:28] <pavlos> prajwal_, https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-test-php-installation-with-a-phpinfo-page/
[16:29] <__Yiota> someone please help me, I provisioned a node with 16.04 I started seeing errors with python virtualenvironments complaining that the locale wasn't set, so I monkeypatched it by exporting LC before creating one, but now my entire java/maven build is wonky, it set the default encoding as ASCII, I think this happened during the time when java was installed. this is on a google cloud engine image
[16:29] <__Yiota> which seems to be the default, IBM's softlayer ubuntu image also has the same issue, the locale isn't set, but on 14.04 it is
[16:32] <bonson> how can i check journal? is it true that journal is not enabled by default?
[16:33] <pavlos> __Yiota, do you need to set LC_ALL=C ?
[16:33] <k1l> bonson: what do you mean by journal?
[16:34] <bonson> k1l: /var/log/journal/*
[16:34] <bonson> there's no such a thing on ubuntu
[16:34] <bonson> i had it on arch
[16:35] <k1l> no, that is not that way on ubuntu. ubuntu uses /var/log for the logs
[16:35] <vrach> hi there can anyone recommend a cli download manager? (a real one not just a tool like rsync)
[16:35] <steven> sup, run a command that crashed apt now every time I wanna use it it says dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. - which I cant cos when I wanna configure it it freezes
[16:36] <k1l> vrach: pyload
[16:36] <steven> so can I kinda rollback the broken upgrade=
[16:36] <vrach> thanks matre
[16:36] <z1haze_work> because u suck.
[16:36] <ioria> bonson, "By default, the journal stores log data in /run/log/journal/. Since
[16:36] <ioria>        /run/ is volatile, log data is lost at reboot. To make the data
[16:36] <ioria>        persistent, it is sufficient to create /var/log/journal/ where
[16:36] <ioria>        systemd-journald will then store the data:"
[16:36] <z1haze_work> xD
[16:36] <setuid> steven: dpkg --configure -a does what?
[16:36] <steven> freezes
[16:36] <steven> z1haze_work: its not me, its the custom kernel that sucks
[16:36] <k1l> z1haze_work: that is not appropriate in here
[16:36] <steven> he loves me, I he doesnt mean it
[16:36] <__Yiota> pavlos, that's what I did
[16:37] <ioria> bonson, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man8/systemd-journald.service.8.html
[16:37] <__Yiota> but ubuntu 14.04 has it by default, it's so strange
[16:37] <z1haze_work> haha im just teasing him
[16:37] <steven> anyway setuid it just freezes cos I wanted to isntall something that requires kernel modules that I dont have  :)
[16:37] <bonson> thanks ioria
[16:37] <steven> so I gotta roll it back, install the stock kernel, and move on with my life :)
[16:37] <setuid> steven: try apt-get -f install
[16:37] <ioria> bonson, ok
[16:37] <setuid> nothing else, just that
[16:37] <setuid> or use dpkg -P and remove the offending package
[16:38] <bonson> ioria k1l i wanted to check the output of journalctl from the previos boot, but i see it's not enabled by default
[16:38] <__Yiota> actually, I take that back, LC_ALL isn't set on 14.04, but it doesn't break the configuration
[16:38] <ioria> bonson, nope
[16:38] <steven> ah here we go, dpkg -P is what I was looking for, fanks setuid
[16:39] <setuid> \o
[16:39] <bonson> ioria: what "nope"?
[16:39] <ioria> bonson, 'it's not enabled by default'
[16:39] <pavlos> __Yiota, can you pastebin output of 'locale' ?
[16:41] <rellis> Anyone here know anything about this linux-aws package from the ubuntu kernel team?
[16:41] <bonson> ioria i mean logs from the previous boots are not stored
[16:41] <rellis> I just installed it but I'm still seeing the old 2.12.1-k version of the ixgbevf driver (intel 10gb nic driver)?
[16:41] <ioria> bonson, not by default
[16:41] <ioria> bonson, you need to enable that service
[16:42] <bonson> ioria: ok, now i know everything
[16:42] <rellis> i thought it looked like it provided both the Amazon ena driver and the ixgbevf driver and newer versions
[16:42] <bonson> thx for your help
[16:42] <ioria> bonson, you're welcm
[16:44] <paco_> buongiorno
[16:45] <nacc> rellis: you can use apt-file to list what it contains
[16:45] <pavlos> !it | paco_
[16:45] <nacc> rellis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24078919/
[16:46] <nacc> rellis: not sure if it would be more recent; but also if all you did was install it, i think you need to reboot
[16:46] <rellis> nacc: Indeed, i did review that and reboot
[16:46] <rellis> that's why im so confused, the changelog talks about newer versions but modinfo disagrees
[16:46] <rellis> i'll reboot once more just to confirm
[16:46] <rellis> nacc: My uname -a looks right... Linux code2 4.4.0-1004-aws #13-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 20 13:41:47 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:47] <nacc> rellis: yeah, that looks correct
[16:47] <nacc> rellis: if you stil have issues, i'd ask in #ubuntu-server or possibly a kernel channel
[16:47] <rellis> alright i will, thanks nacc
[16:47] <nacc> rellis: specifically #ubuntu-kernel, that is
[16:47] <rellis> cool
[16:48] <rellis> thanks again
[16:48] <z1haze_work> is operation not permitted typically a permissions issue? I cant figure out why my chmod commands are getting operation permitted.. file system owned by www-data, user executing command in group www-data file permission 664, folder permission 770.. chmod g+w is giving operated not permitted. please advise
[16:49] <llutz> z1haze_work: what filesystem are the files to be changed on, non-unix-fs maybe?
[16:49] <gambl0re> im trying to run this command "sudo find . -xdev -type f | cut -d "/" -f 2 | sort | uniq -c | --buffer-size=10G"  but im getting "--buffer-size=10G command not found"
[16:50] <z1haze_work> when i run it with sudo it works
[16:50] <gambl0re> what am i doing wrong
[16:50] <pavlos> gambl0re, before the buffer you pipe
[16:50] <Pici> thats not even a valid argument to uniq
[16:51] <nacc> gambl0re: it's a nonsensical command?
[16:51] <gambl0re> "sudo find . -xdev -type f | cut -d "/" -f 2 | sort | uniq -c | --buffer-size=10G"  but im getting "--buffer-size=10G command not found"
[16:51] <z1haze_work> llutz: i do not know.. how can i check? like i said runnign with sudo it works fine
[16:51] <Pici> gambl0re: what are you tryin to accomplish?
[16:51] <gambl0re> something like that ?"sudo find . -xdev -type f | cut -d "/" -f 2 | sort | uniq -c | --buffer-size=10G sort -n"
[16:52] <pavlos> gambl0re, buffer-size seems to be a parm of sort so it has to be in the sort section
[16:52] <llutz> z1haze_work: only the owner and root may change permissions, not group-members
[16:53] <gambl0re> something like that ?"sudo find . -xdev -type f | cut -d "/" -f 2 | --buffer-size=10G sort | uniq -c | sort -n"
[16:53] <gambl0re> like that?
[16:53] <theparadoxer02> i am not able to install anything
[16:53] <theparadoxer02> here is the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/24078958/
[16:53] <nacc> gambl0re: no
[16:53] <nacc> gambl0re: each piped string must be a valid command
[16:53] <nacc> gambl0re: is '--buffer-size=10G sort' a valid command?
[16:53] <Franco63> hi all
[16:53] <gambl0re> yes
[16:54] <nacc> gambl0re: no, it is not.
[16:54] <nacc> gambl0re: it starts with an option
[16:54] <nacc> gambl0re: try to run that from the terminal, on its own
[16:54] <gambl0re> sudo find . -xdev -type f | cut -d "/" -f 2 | sort --buffer-size=10G | uniq -c | sort -n"
[16:54] <pavlos> gambl0re, find . -xdev -type f | cut -d "/" -f 2 | sort -n --buffer-size=10G | uniq -c
[16:54] <nacc> gambl0re: and why are you calling sort twice?
[16:54] <gambl0re> thats what i did
[16:55] <gambl0re> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/653096/how-to-free-inode-usage
[16:56] <Franco63> i'm very starting to use ubuntu...bored   with  windows ...  everything seem to be ok ..  just if  i try ro use tor browswer have same problems... a  windows appear > SIGNATURE VERIFICATION FAILED! YOU MIGHT BE UNDER ATTACK, OR THERE MIGHT BE A NETWORKING  PROBLEM... i don think have any netwqorkk problem because  i can use  crome normally...  sambody can help me?  ty
[16:56] <tizzja> hei
[16:56] <tizzja> ciao
[16:57] <tizzja> :)
[16:57] <Franco63> ciao !
[16:57] <tizzja> ops
[16:57] <gambl0re> Franco63, dont use linux
[16:57] <gambl0re> unless you've been using it since you were born
[16:57] <tizzja> wrong chat innit?!
[16:57] <Franco63> why not?
[16:57] <gambl0re> its too hard to learn
[16:58] <gambl0re> especially if you are used to windows
[16:58] <ducasse> gambl0re: don't say that
[16:58] <nacc> gambl0re: FUD. please don't spread that
[16:58] <Franco63> yes i used  windows for about 30  years
[16:58] <gambl0re> same with me
[16:58] <DJones> tizzja: No, this channel is support for Ubuntu only, general chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic, or ##chat
[16:58] <nacc> gambl0re: you have not yet said what error you get with a valid command, if any
[16:58] <gambl0re> learning ubuntu is like learning a new language
[16:59] <z1haze_work> llutz: thank you - noted. So even if a user has the same group of the file owner, he cannot change the permissions? only the actual owner or root. I will remember that
[16:59] <tizzja> DJones I was called in another channel and I wrongly wrote her
[16:59] <tizzja> *here
[17:00] <llutz> z1haze_work: correct. group-members may do what the permission say (rwx) but not change permissions
[17:00] <Franco63> ops  sorry.. ty
[17:00] <DJones> tizzja: No problem
[17:00] <theparadoxer02> i am getting sa-compile error help me please !
[17:00] <ducasse> Franco63: just hang around, someone will help you
[17:01] <nacc> theparadoxer02: your user is not able to run `rm` or `chmod`?
[17:02] <ioria> Franco63, it's the same issue ? http://askubuntu.com/questions/881082/tor-installation-error-signature-verification-failed
[17:02] <theparadoxer02> nacc, i am not able to install anything
[17:02] <nacc> theparadoxer02: yes, i understand. Can you, e.g. `touch /tmp/foo; rm /tmp/foo` ?
[17:03] <theparadoxer02> the error i am getting is http://paste.ubuntu.com/24078459/
[17:03] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: hey
[17:03] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, finally you came
[17:04] <nacc> theparadoxer02: the paste you provided earlier indicates your system is rather broken, but maybe EriC^^ has context
[17:04] <pavlos> gambl0re, you can move the uniq before the sort so the output is in Ascending order
[17:04] <theparadoxer02> due to this error i am not even able to upgrade!
[17:04] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: try "dpkg -S /usr/bin/sa-compile" and see what it says
[17:04] <akis> hi all. i am wondering how can i check xfce4-weather-plugin version on my xubuntu 16.04.2 system and how can i update it?
[17:04] <gambl0re> pavlos, i got it working. thanks
[17:04] <Franco63> ty  ioria
[17:04] <pavlos> gambl0re, np
[17:04] <EriC^^> nacc: yeah he wanted to upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 but it broke some packages for him
[17:04] <ioria> Franco63, ok ...
[17:04] <nacc> akis: `apt-cache policy xfce4-weather-plugin`
[17:05] <nacc> akis: and to update it, `apt update; apt full-upgrade`. If there are updates for it, that will insta it
[17:05] <nacc> *install
[17:05] <nacc> EriC^^: ah ok
[17:05] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, sa-compile: /usr/bin/sa-compile
[17:06] <haruko> Hello, Ubuntu 16.10 is working great on my Lenovo Yoga 710, except that the battery lasts just 3 hours (compared to more than 2-3x on Windows). What could be causing this? I suspect that either the CPU or the GPU are not idling correctly. Is there a way to measure the power consumption by hardware part? Like $ top. Btw, I'm booting with acpi=noirq
[17:06] <brimestone> hey guys... I've been using Ubuntu server since the early days.. and i was wondering if i could do the same Server stuffs on the desktop version? or is that recommended..
[17:06] <ducasse> haruko: try powertop and/or tlp
[17:07] <brimestone> be nice to have a GUI when you need it.
[17:08] <ducasse> brimestone: both have access to the same packages
[17:08] <EriC^^> !info sa-compile wily
[17:08] <brimestone> and stability?
[17:08] <ducasse> brimestone: the only difference is what is installed by default
[17:08] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: maybe reinstalling sa-compile will fix stuff
[17:09] <nacc> EriC^^: the specific errors from sa-compile are about rm and chmod, though? is that typical?
[17:09] <EriC^^> nacc: yeah i found a thread about somebody upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04 and he got the same error, nothing about how to solve it though
[17:09] <brimestone> So, I have a recipe of packages.. I can essentially create my server on the Desktop version, yes?
[17:09] <nacc> EriC^^: hrm :/
[17:09] <nacc> brimestone: yes
[17:09] <EriC^^> i'm thinking maybe use dpkg to extract the deb, and manually copy the binary over or so
[17:10] <brimestone> and would you guys recommend it?
[17:10] <nacc> EriC^^: that is probably reasonable (as much as it can be)
[17:10] <akis> nacc: system respond that xfce4-weather-plugin is already the newest version (0.8.6-1) but 11 days ago there is a new one version. how can i update the existing version to the new one?
[17:10] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, i tried the "sudo apt-get remove sa-compile"
[17:10] <nacc> akis: where do you know there is a newer version?
[17:11] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: try "apt-cache show sa-compile" and go to the line that has /ubuntu/main/something....deb and please paste it here
[17:11] <theparadoxer02> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24079173/
[17:11] <ducasse> akis: ubuntu packages aren't updated to later versions
[17:11] <akis> i was informed from here https://git.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin/
[17:11] <brimestone> nacc, ducasse: you would guys recommend it?
[17:11] <nacc> akis: that's upstream, not hte packages
[17:11] <nacc> !latest | akis
[17:12] <kierqueen> how do i see th e version of a executable without pip --version but dpkg or apt, but I want to see it on the installed pakcage, not the one that is remote
[17:12] <kierqueen> local packages version coommand
[17:12] <nacc> kierqueen: an executable's version is usually `executable --version`
[17:12] <nacc> kierqueen: if you mean the package's version `apt-cache policy <pkgname>`
[17:12] <haruko> ducasse: according to powertop, idling doesn't seem to be the issue. Any ideas?
[17:13] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24079178/
[17:13] <ducasse> brimestone: depends, it's ok for development or home use
[17:13] <akis> nacc: i understand this but developers informed me that newer version solves some problems. what do i have to do?
[17:13] <nacc> akis: build a version in a PPA? or ask them to? did you file a bug?
[17:14] <brimestone> so, for work/production that implies a No.
[17:14] <kierqueen> apt-cache is for locally installed? but there are several pip's one is in my virtualenv, and not in the /bin/pip nacc
[17:14] <nacc> kierqueen: apt-cache will show you both local and remote, if you used apt to install (generally)
[17:15] <ducasse> brimestone: a gui vastly increases the attack surface
[17:15] <nacc> kierqueen: packaging (dpkg or apt) can only know what is installed via itself, generally
[17:15] <nacc> kierqueen: what are you specifically trying to do?
[17:15] <brimestone> Enough said.. thanks Ducasse
[17:15] <kierqueen> nacc: kk
[17:16] <caene> I'm new to Ubuntu and I think I messesed up. I'm using Ubuntu 16.04. I messed around with the themes settings. Everything worked fine. I noticed I didn't have a "extension" option or shell-theme option in my gnome-tweak-tool. Being noob, I thought installing gnome-shell-extensions would solve something. After restart I can't even get into X.
[17:17] <akis> nacc: there is a warning on Installed version: 0.8.6-1 : Met.no LocationforecastLTS API states that this version of the webservice is deprecated, and the plugin needs to be	adapted to use a newer version, or it will stop working within	a few months.	Please file a bug on https://bugzilla.xfce.org if no one	else has done so yet. Also from some time ago (maybe 2 months) there is no update for sunrise and sunset time and under 'Astronomical Data' th
[17:17] <akis> ere is the notice that: 'Data not available, will use sane default values for night and day'.
[17:17] <caene> I removed/purged gnome-shell-extentions hoping it would solve something, it didn't.
[17:17] <returnthis> I am trying to run plantuml.jar (yes, I know) but openjdk aborts and dumps core.
[17:18] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: wb
[17:18] <theparadoxer02> yeah i am here
[17:19] <theparadoxer02> was rebooting my system
[17:19] <akis> nacc: but they announced that were fixed on newest version. So i am wondering how can i update to it if it is recommended it.
[17:19] <nacc> akis: ok, did you file a bug with ubuntu as well?
[17:19] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: something odd is going on, the package version you have is 3.4.1-3 instead of 3.4.1 which is the wily one, the other is the 16.04 one
[17:19] <theparadoxer02> oh!
[17:20] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: yeah i think the repos are mixed up
[17:20] <theparadoxer02> listen i tried installing curl
[17:20] <akis> nacc: you mena if i reported it?
[17:20] <akis> *mena
[17:20] <theparadoxer02> now the error coming is _
[17:20] <akis> *mean
[17:20] <EriC^^> what's spamassassin anyways? it's not required for dpkg is it? anyone know?
[17:21] <llutz> EriC^^: spamfilter software/daemon, email
[17:21] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24079215/
[17:21] <EriC^^> llutz: ah, so dpkg works normally without it right?
[17:21] <llutz> EriC^^: sure
[17:22] <EriC^^> cool, thanks
[17:22] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: try dpkg -P --force-all sa-compile
[17:22] <EriC^^> *sudo
[17:23] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, when i tried upgerading the upgation showed me that some of the files are not upagraded !
[17:23] <nacc> akis: yes, to ubuntu, not upstream
[17:23] <nacc> EriC^^: e-mail spam filtering on the server
[17:23] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: try ps aux | grep dpkg and paste it
[17:23] <theparadoxer02> but when i click on about this computer it is showing version 16.10
[17:23] <EriC^^> nacc: aha
[17:23] <akis> nacc: no.
[17:24] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: 16.10? O.o
[17:24] <nacc> akis: then it is unlikely to get fixed in ubuntu
[17:24] <nacc> !bug | akis
[17:24] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, dpkg: error: dpkg status database is locked by another process
[17:24] <theparadoxer02> sorry 16.04
[17:24] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: ok, try ps aux | grep dpkg
[17:25] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, abhi      3241  0.0  0.0  14224   936 pts/1    S+   22:54   0:00 grep --color=auto dpkg
[17:25] <ducasse> akis: the xfce developers have a ppa with updated packages, but i know nothing about the stability of those.
[17:25] <ubby> hi
[17:25] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: ok, type sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[17:26] <ubby> I find many outdated tutorials, some from the eth0 and init.d era
[17:26] <ubby> I ethernet interface with dhcp - but want to force using another DNS server.
[17:26] <ubby> *have
[17:26] <ubby> how can I do this in latest ubuntu lts?
[17:26] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, done@
[17:26] <nacc> ubby: are you on a desktop?
[17:26] <ubby> nacc: VM on terminal
[17:26] <ubby> yes, desktop, you could call that
[17:27] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, ran the command "sudo dpkg -P --force-all sa-compile"
[17:27] <nacc> ubby: then use network manager
[17:27] <theparadoxer02> it executed proparly
[17:27] <ubby> nacc: I installed it - can I use from CLI?
[17:27] <ubby> service is also started for it
[17:27] <nacc> ubby: network-manager? nmcli
[17:28] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: ok, i think try to install something and see how it goes
[17:28] <_bart> Hello, my script is run on both shutdown and startup, this is my configuration: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/36615fd6c3b602408c61d25b2882156d Any hints on what the problem is?
[17:28] <whoever_> hi all , aftor runing dist-update, i goot undesirable results, so how do i do a roll back
[17:29] <_bart> I want it to only run at startup
[17:29] <theparadoxer02> i ran sudo apt-get auto remove
[17:29] <ubby> nacc: nmcli shows connection, but none is ens33 :/
[17:29] <theparadoxer02> now its removing too many files
[17:29] <theparadoxer02> i fear ,my lappy wouldn't boot up after this
[17:30] <EriC^^> _bart: put it in a crontab as @reboot /path/to/script
[17:30] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: ok don't let it
[17:30] <whoever_> _bart: than add it to auto-star  under startup addp
[17:30] <nacc> ubby: does `ip a` show ens33?
[17:31] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, on thing i am continously getting now is
[17:31] <theparadoxer02> N: Ignoring file '50unattended-upgrades.ucf-dist' in directory '/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[17:31] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: can you paste what it said about removing stuff?
[17:31] <ubby> nacc: 2: ens33:  [...]
[17:31] <ubby> yes
[17:31] <ubby> but not in nmcli :O
[17:31] <theparadoxer02> okay
[17:31] <_bart> EriC^^: I can see how that could work, but it should work just using a symlink too right? run level 2, 3, 5 are not shutdown levels?
[17:31] <ubby> ubby: nmcli three wired connections
[17:32] <nacc> ubby: is NM managing that connection?
[17:32] <nacc> ubby: or are you using /etc/network/interfaces or something?
[17:32] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24079261/
[17:32] <ubby> nacc: hm, I guess not? can I let it manage it?
[17:32] <ducasse> _bart: you could also put it in rc.local
[17:32] <ubby> nacc: I never used it until now
[17:32] <nacc> theparadoxer02: you can just delete that file, iirc
[17:32] <ubby> ubuntu minimal terminal for my dev stuff, so there is no desktop, gui or other things
[17:32] <nacc> theparadoxer02: and/or ignore the message, it's justa  warning
[17:32] <nacc> ubby: oh, i just asked if it was a desktop, and you said yes
[17:33] <ubby> nacc: do I need a full desktop GUI for this?
[17:33] <ubby> can I do this with nmcli, too?
[17:33] <steven> another one, how can I reconfigre (more like is there an ubuntu ish way to) reconfigure the OS to use stock kernels?
[17:33] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: aha
[17:33] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: installing curl did that?
[17:33] <nacc> steven: what kernel are you using that's not stock?
[17:33] <theparadoxer02> yeah it installed!
[17:33] <nacc> ubby: well, typically, NM is used with a desktop
[17:33] <ubby> I see
[17:33] <EriC^^> !info gstreamer xenial
[17:34] <nacc> ubby: if not, you can use /etc/network/interfaces
[17:34] <steven> I dont know, the server hsoting company ships with an ubuntu build and a custom kernel which sucks so I wanna install (and did install) the custom kernel
[17:34] <EriC^^> !info gstreamer1.0-clutter xenial
[17:34] <ubby> nacc: ah right, but the issue is that /etc/network/interfaces doesn't accept a dns server entry when the connection is dhcp.
[17:34] <_bart> ducasse: rc.local is a good idea, will do that. Is there also an easy option to run something only on shutting down?
[17:34] <EriC^^> !info gstreamer1.0-clutter wily
[17:34] <steven> eh the stock one ofc, now I gotta tell ubuntu to use that one instead of what ever custom stuff is installed nacc
[17:34] <steven> :)
[17:34] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: it seems to have removed some packages, they were 16.04 packages though
[17:35] <tfitts> this might not be specific to ubuntu but I'm wondering if there is a way to write a script that can start a program and enter commands in the program.  It's an old program and as far as I know doesn't have a way to pipe commands in like normal.
[17:35] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: are all the packages 16.04 right now?
[17:35] <nacc> tfitts: expect
[17:36] <nacc> steven: so reboot?
[17:36] <steven> I did :)
[17:36] <spooky_> hi, anyone of you use apt instead of apt-get ?
[17:36] <tfitts> i'll check it out.  thanks
[17:36] <nacc> spooky_: yes, of course
[17:36] <steven> I guess its some place hardcoded but I couldnt find it nacc
[17:37] <nacc> ubby: i think you can, tbh, but i don't know the incantation
[17:37] <nacc> steven: what do you mean?
[17:37] <nacc> steven: you rebooted and it didn't go to your kernel?
[17:38] <nacc> ubby: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StaticDnsWithDhcp ?
[17:38] <steven> ops, someone get rid of invving, the guy pm
[17:38] <steven> s users asking political stuff
[17:38] <nicomachus> steven: please report it in #ubuntu-ops
[17:38] <spooky_> nacc: maybe you had similar situation like me. Well at work we use linux ofc, and ubuntu. When we tried update package lists on Ubunut 16.04 with apt update, nothing happens... well it updateds but apt didn't see new version. After apt-get update apt search shows newer version. Any ideas?
[17:39] <nacc> spooky_: doesn't make sense to me, apt and apt-get update the same file lists, afaik
[17:39] <nicomachus> yea that's spooky
[17:40] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: wb, so i was saying the packages it removed are16.04 ones
[17:40] <nacc> spooky_: we would need to see it in practice to debug, i think
[17:40] <EriC^^> :D
[17:40] <spooky_> nacc: yea its same command but still we tried few times apt update and nothing :D
[17:40] <akis> ducasse: actually the provide the new version 0.8.9 here: https://git.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-weather-plugin/ .
[17:40] <nicomachus> spooky_: might be worth checking apt logs
[17:40] <steven> nacc: it adds -jb1 to the kernel (no idea what thats supposed to mean) so dunno. maybe they have a custom repo and just install custom stuff. its weird
[17:41] <spooky_> hmm well i will check it now one sec.
[17:41] <theparadoxer02> Eric^^ was rebooting
[17:41] <spooky_> i hope server is still online
[17:41] <theparadoxer02> tell me now !
[17:41] <ducasse> akis: that is a source tarball
[17:41] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: wb, so i was saying the packages it removed are16.04 ones
[17:42] <akis> ducasse: what does this mean?
[17:42] <nacc> akis: it is not for ubuntu directly
[17:42] <nacc> steven: sorry, not following
[17:42] <nacc> steven: you installed a new kernel, rebooted
[17:42] <nacc> steven: did you tell your server to boot to that kernel?
[17:42] <caene> I have my Xorg log uploaded. Does anyone have time to check it out and see what's making me not be able to start display manager at boot?
[17:43] <nicomachus> caene: can't hurt to link the paste here.
[17:43] <caene> No info in the log that is sensitive?
[17:43] <ducasse> akis: you want a .deb package
[17:43] <steven> I did, I did. and now its the latest kernel but has a suffix -jb1. I assume its their custom stuff cos I havent seen it before on any other server (that is, using uname -a)
[17:43] <nicomachus> caene: usually not in xorg
[17:43] <caene> alright :)
[17:43] <nacc> steven: -jb1 is not the Ubuntu kernel
[17:44] <steven> thats what I assumed
[17:44] <nacc> akis: as i have said a few times, file a bug with ubuntu and ask the ubuntu developers to provide a fix
[17:44] <theparadoxer02> Eric^^ was rebooting my system
[17:44] <steven> thats why I said its a custom one which I want to get rid of
[17:44] <theparadoxer02> what do i do!
[17:44] <ubby> nacc: wouldn't it be easier using the network manager? well, maybe it isn't
[17:44] <nacc> ubby: i mean, in theory, it's a one-line change
[17:44] <ubby> nacc: isn't that article outdated because it doesn't use the new ens33 thing?
[17:44] <nacc> ubby: ens33 is just a name
[17:45] <caene> My Xorg log, can't boot display manager. Stuck at terminal. https://transfer.sh/14vJW7/help5.txt
[17:45] <ubby> nacc: ok
[17:45] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, should i update ?
[17:45] <akis> ducasse: ok, i understand. there are some installation's details on this archive but does not regard to ubuntu distros?
[17:45] <steven> so I inastalled linux-image-virtual and rebooted nacc and now its the latest version of the kernwl with the jb1 suffix
[17:45] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: no don't do anything yet, and dont run any command if it asks to install/remove etc bunch of stuff
[17:45] <spooky_> nacc: /var/log/apt/term.log nothing show how it was updating
[17:45] <akis> ducasse: i found also this: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-weather-plugin
[17:45] <nacc> steven: `apt-cache policy linux-image-virtual` please
[17:45] <steven> gonna check for custom repo
[17:45] <ducasse> akis: it will give you problems later. the xfce ppa i mentioned is your best option.
[17:46] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: first things first did it actually update fully or what, try cat /etc/issue and lsb_release -a
[17:46] <nacc> akis: yes, that's where you report the bug
[17:46] <EriC^^> does it say 16.04 in both, do you remember after you ran sudo do-release-upgrade the first time, did it download a bunch of stuff for a while and then installed them all?
[17:46] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: ^
[17:46] <steven> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24079327/
[17:47] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, No LSB modules are available.
[17:47] <nacc> steven: pastebin `ls -ahl /boot`
[17:47] <ubby> nacc: Hm, how can I find out what DNS servers are now used?
[17:47] <nacc> ubby: `cat /etc/resolv.conf` ?
[17:47] <akis> nacc: here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-weather-plugin/+bugs?field.status:list=NEW
[17:47] <steven> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24079330/
[17:47] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, for "cat/etc/issue" output is "Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS \n \l"
[17:48] <ubby> nacc: hm, not the DNS servers I specified in /etc/network/interfaces :(
[17:48] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: let's check the main package, try dpkg -l libc6
[17:48] <ubby> nameserver 127.0.0.1
[17:48] <EriC^^> which version is installed?
[17:48] <nacc> ubby: did you restart networking?
[17:48] <nacc> !bug | akis
[17:48] <nacc> akis: and yes
[17:48] <ubby> nacc: I restart again, maybe I rstarted it not correctly
[17:48] <nacc> steven: and `uname -a` ?
[17:48] <akis> ducasse: which is this ppa? and will it be updated with this new version?
[17:48] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24079334/
[17:49] <ubby> nacc: still 127.0.0.1 :(
[17:49] <nacc> ubby: probably becuse of network manager
[17:49] <nacc> ubby: which means that it's running a dnsmasq on the localhost
[17:49] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: ok, that's the 16.04 one
[17:49] <nacc> ubby: if you don't need network manager you can remove it again
[17:49] <akis> nacc: ok, thanks. No one reports this problem.
[17:49] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: so let's make the sources.list xenial again
[17:49] <ubby> nacc: yes, removed it :)
[17:49] <steven> nacc: Linux j93410.servers.jiffybox.net 4.4.27-x86_64-jb1 #1 SMP Thu Oct 27 13:51:17 CEST 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:49] <nacc> steven: taht is none of hte kernels in /boot
[17:49] <ducasse> akis: i don't know, but it is very likely. ask in #xubuntu for the development ppa, but as i said - i don't know how stable those packages are.
[17:50] <steven> nacc: I know :D
[17:50] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, how should i ?
[17:50] <nacc> steven: so you should look at the grub configuration
[17:50] <nacc> steven: /boot/grub/grub.cfg for the entry you chose to boot
[17:51] <nacc> steven: keep in mind, if you're using a hosting company, they can restrict you in any way they see fit
[17:51] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: run sudo sed -i 's/wily/xenial/g' /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:51] <steven> its a vps
[17:51] <Bashing-om> caene: What is up that you still boot with 'nomodeset' when the nvidia driver apprears to be installed ?
[17:51] <steven> shouldnt be, but who knows.
[17:52] <nacc> steven: shouldn't be what?
[17:52] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, done!
[17:52] <steven> shouldnt be resitrcted
[17:52] <nacc> !who | steven: as well, it's really hard to follow along if you don't highlight me directly :)
[17:52] <ubby> nacc: ok, I restarted resolvconf, force update, too - it is still 127.0.0.1...
[17:52] <ubby> nacc: ifdown ens33; ifup ens33
[17:52] <ubby> no avail :(
[17:52] <akis> ducasse: ok, i understand. do you think that it is likely for ubuntu repos to include an update for this plug in at recent future?
[17:52] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: ok, sudo apt-get update , then sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:52] <nacc> ubby: see what's lisetning on 127.0.0.1 ?
[17:52] <ubby> it is a new ubuntu installation, nothing really exotic about it
[17:52] <steven> sure thing nacc
[17:53] <ubby> nacc: dnsmasq
[17:53] <nacc> akis: only if you file the bug!
[17:53] <ubby> hm, maybe because of virtualbox? but why should it change that? it doesn't make sense.
[17:53] <steven> anyway imma take a look at the grub conf, maybe they just did some weird config change I havent noticed. fanks for the time nacc
[17:53] <nacc> ubby: did you reboot after removing network manager?
[17:53] <akis> nacc: ok. thank you for advises.
[17:53] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, done!
[17:53] <ubby> nacc: ok, I will reboot the whole damn thing - maybe this solves it. should take some minutes
[17:54] <nacc> ubby: well, just reboot the VM
[17:54] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: ok, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:54] <ubby> nacc: I reboot the whole thing, yes
[17:54] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24079350/
[17:55] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:56] <ubby> nacc: restarted the system, still 127.0.0.1 in resolv.conf
[17:57] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: that looks good
[17:57] <ioria> ubby, nmcli dev list eth0 | grep IP4
[17:58] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, i think everything is okay now!
[17:58] <EriC^^> wondering about those packages it removed, they're mostly libs
[17:58] <ioria> ubby, sorry, nmcli dev list <your interface> | grep IP4
[17:58] <chris32> Does AMD or Nvidia has better drivers on linux? I need an energy efficient card but if drivers of Nvidia aren't good I may choose an AMD one
[17:58] <theparadoxer02> thanks you so much , i can't tell you how helpful it was!
[17:58] <EriC^^> yeah seems good, there's one called libusbmuxd there, i think its for usb tethering
[17:59] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: no problem, sure thing
[18:01] <Bashing-om> chris32: Depends on what your immediate meeds are . In the furure AMD will be the way to go . AMD/ubuntu with growing pains presently .
[18:01] <steven> nacc: yeah the changed the boot process, I have to log into the web UI and tell em to not boot their kernel first, THEN they read my menu.lst file ( z1haze_work stupid eh?)
[18:02] <Bashing-om> camako: Paying attention ?
[18:02] <theparadoxer02> EriC^^, was there the error at sa-compile ?
[18:02] <camako> to what?
[18:02] <theparadoxer02> or any other place ?
[18:02] <Bashing-om> camako: Sorry, I was not .. the OP left and you got highlighted :(
[18:03] <EriC^^> theparadoxer02: yup in sa-compile
[18:03] <camako> no worries
[18:04] <chris32> Bashing-om, i'd like to ask you more questions but i'm worried it may sound commercial. may i pm you?
[18:04] <Bashing-om> chris32: Yeah .. go ahead with the PM .
[18:33] <caene> Which Firefox version on Ubuntu can use HTML5 player on Twitch? Because I'm trying out Firefox 51, and it's not working for me.
[18:34] <davidj> Anyone have thoughts on why 'esc' results in ubuntu systems returning from suspend better, whereas mouse clicks make it turn to crap?
[18:35] <davidj> (Whenever I use a mouse click, it almost seems as though lightdm/unity/whatever has to restart at least once)
[18:45] <ljasdkdahsdhjas> hi
[18:45] <ljasdkdahsdhjas> i need some help
[18:45] <ljasdkdahsdhjas> i cant open a .deb file
[18:45] <ljasdkdahsdhjas> it asks for the password
[18:45] <ljasdkdahsdhjas> then never opens
[18:45] <ljasdkdahsdhjas> please help
[18:46] <ducasse> davidj: are there any differences in dmesg when you resume with keypress vs mouse?
[18:46] <davidj> @ducasse Good idea! I'll try that the next time I see it.
[18:46] <ducasse> ljasdkdahsdhjas: it's probably trying to install it and waiting for your user password
[18:47] <davidj> ljasdkdahsdhjas: try using super-w to see if any windows popped up asking
[18:47] <davidj> I find it sometimes pops 'under' for me :/
[18:47] <ducasse> davidj: run 'dmesg -w', then suspend/resume and save the last output
[18:49] <jgasgsghd> whoops
[18:49] <jgasgsghd> internet crashed
[18:49] <jgasgsghd> sorry its not a deb
[18:49] <jgasgsghd> i already installed it
[18:49] <jgasgsghd> its just an app on my desktop
[18:49] <jgasgsghd> called vpnoneclick
[18:49] <jgasgsghd> i double click it
[18:50] <jgasgsghd> and it asks for password cuz it need admin privlages
[18:50] <jgasgsghd> so i put pass
[18:50] <jgasgsghd> then it never opens
[18:50] <ducasse> !enter | jgasgsghd
[18:50] <jgasgsghd> sorry
[18:50] <jgasgsghd> whats !enter
[18:51] <ducasse> jgasgsghd: just a trigger to make ubottu say that
[18:52] <jgasgsghd> so any fixes?
[18:55] <chris32> jgasgsghd, when you installed ubuntu you probably entered a password
[18:56] <k1l> jgasgsghd: use "sudo dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb"
[18:57] <VileGent> k1l: it timed out
[18:57] <Kinu> Hi
[18:57] <Kinu> I need help
[18:58] <VileGent> Kinu: state your issue
[18:58] <Kinu> yesterday i installed lubuntu in my lappy and was able to use the bluetooth properly
[18:59] <VileGent> !lubuntu | Kinu
[18:59] <Kinu> but today when i tried to connect to my android phone my lappy was not detecting the devices
[18:59] <Kinu> Yes lubuntu
[19:00] <VileGent> and where did it tell you to go for support
[19:00] <Kinu> No it did  not tell me to goto any support
[19:00] <ducasse> !flavors | VileGent
[19:01] <VileGent> ducasse: sorry i had understood it the other way
[19:01] <Kinu> I though some one must have came across the same problem and must have fix the issue
[19:02] <Kinu> can some one help me out
[19:02] <Ro|3> Kinu: what's up?
[19:03] <Kinu> hi whats up
[19:03] <tgm4883> Kinu: people can only help you if they know the answer
[19:03] <Ro|3> I'm not "Mr. what's up" ;-)
[19:03] <Ro|3> I meant "how can I help you" :)
[19:03] <ducasse> !bluetooth | Kinu see if this helps
[19:03] <VileGent> Kinu:  is your bluetooth icon on, on your desktop and your laptop
[19:03] <Kinu> yes its there
[19:04] <Kinu> but when I try to make it visible to nearby devices it freezes
[19:05] <Kinu> yesterday it was working and today it started giving me the problem
[19:05] <ducasse> Kinu: does 'hcitool dev' return anything?
[19:06] <tgm4883> Kinu: what changed between yesterday and today?
[19:06] <k1l> Kinu: what does "rfkill list" show? please put to pastebin and link here
[19:06] <Kinu> it shows blank
[19:06] <Kinu> even with sudo
[19:06] <Ro|3> CU guys, have a great evening
[19:07] <Kinu> rfkill list
[19:07] <Kinu> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN
[19:07] <Kinu> 	Soft blocked: no
[19:07] <Kinu> 	Hard blocked: no
[19:07] <Kinu> 1: hci0: Bluetooth
[19:07] <Kinu> 	Soft blocked: no
[19:07] <Kinu> 	Hard blocked: no
[19:07] <ducasse> !pastebin | Kinu
[19:07] <k1l> Kinu: use paste.ubuntu.com and link it here
[19:08] <acresearch> people i need help, i have a USB stick that just stopped working, not appearing anywhere, what can i do? i do not need to recover any data just format it so i can use it properly
[19:08] <Kinu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24079679/
[19:10] <ducasse> acresearch: 'lsblk' does not show it?
[19:11] <Kinu> can someone tell me where the problem lies
[19:12] <acresearch> ducasse: does not show
[19:12] <ducasse> acresearch: have you tried different ports?
[19:12] <acresearch> ducasse: yes
[19:12] <ducasse> acresearch: do other sticks work?
[19:13] <acresearch> ducasse: yes
[19:13] <acresearch> i have two of the same stick, one works, this one does not
[19:14] <ducasse> acresearch: remove the stick, open a terminal, run 'dmesg -w' and press enter to get a few blank lines. now insert the stick, any output?
[19:15] <acresearch> ducasse: no
[19:16] <ducasse> acresearch: then i would say it is dead.
[19:16] <acresearch> ducasse: how can it die? what did i do wrong? i use it for backup, so i barely used it less than 10 times, and always eject before taking it out. what did i do wrong?
[19:17] <acresearch> ducasse: when i hook it, a light comes out then goes away
[19:17] <jayjo> I run jupyterhub (a python data tool) on my machine each day. Can I set this up with ubuntu to run automatically when my machine runs, and to have a dedicated internal IP address so other machines can access on my network, or I can access if I VPN or ssh into the network? I will do the research to get this done, but what do I look for? Am I starting a daemon on launch? And restart on failures?
[19:17] <rodney77> hello, does anyone know how I can get my bluetooth keyboard to connect on boot? I'm running 14.04
[19:17] <ducasse> acresearch: don't think you necessarily did any wrong, some usb sticks simply can not take much and die quickly
[19:19] <A1Gard> hi dears
[19:19] <acresearch> ducasse: i have a lot of work data to back up, i try to keep double copies just for this issue, but it happens a lot, what can i do to save my backups???
[19:20] <ducasse> acresearch: the best place for backups is a disk imo, preferably a remote one if possible
[19:20] <acresearch> imo?
[19:20] <ducasse> acresearch: another option - several copies
[19:20] <ducasse> acresearch: in my opinion
[19:21] <acresearch> ducasse: i do keep several copies, but dam they still fail,,, my data is around 100GB so cloud backup is expensive,
[19:22] <ducasse> acresearch: you could look at a service like tarsnap or rsync.net
[19:23] <acresearch> ducasse: interesting, i did not know about them
[19:23] <ducasse> acresearch: iirc you can store terabytes there for a few dollars/month
[19:23] <Guest21150> hi i wanna to know how this work as i new to linux
[19:24] <ducasse> acresearch: never personally used them, but considering them myself
[19:25] <acresearch> thanks ducasse
[19:25] <ducasse> acresearch: np
[19:25] <johk> waddup pimps
[19:26] <johk> wadup
[19:28] <sebokie> hello
[19:28] <johk> sup
[19:28] <z1haze_work> where can i edit my $PATH ? i accidentally added something to it with export that i dont want in there
[19:28] <ducasse> z1haze_work: you added it in your shell or in a file?
[19:29] <z1haze_work> i just did export $PATH= ...
[19:29] <z1haze_work> i guess it was just the shell huh
[19:29] <sebokie> is it possible to reconstruct a RAID array if I lost the root filesystem where its configuration was stored?
[19:29] <ducasse> z1haze_work: so just do 'export PATH=whatever'
[19:29] <z1haze_work> i added something that i want to remove
[19:30] <z1haze_work> where is this actually stored
[19:30] <ducasse> z1haze_work: in the environment, so just set PATH to what it was before
[19:31] <z1haze_work> i dont know what it was before
[19:32] <ducasse> z1haze_work: 'echo $PATH', then just set it to what is left when you remove what you added
[19:32] <pavlos> z1haze_work, can you look at your previous commands and see what you modified PATH to? the default sits in .bashrc
[19:33] <z1haze_work> i li added something to $PATH i didnt replace it.
[19:33] <z1haze_work> i just want to remove a thing that was added
[19:34] <nacc> z1haze_work: just open a new terminal, then
[19:34] <z1haze_work> lol i didnt think this would be such a complex question.
[19:34] <z1haze_work> so is this not stored in a file somewhere?
[19:34] <nacc> z1haze_work: no
[19:34] <z1haze_work> its not persisted?
[19:34] <z1haze_work> ok thanks thats all i needed
[19:34] <nacc> z1haze_work: well, not if you didn't persist it
[19:35] <johk> waddup pimps
[19:35] <ostekake> Hello dear people! Any one know how I assign an IP-adresss to a iSCSI portal (only doing this to teach myself, this is NOT a production system)
[19:35] <nacc> ostekake: what do you mean specifically?
[19:35] <A1Gard> any one know about openvpn here?
[19:36] <ducasse> !ask | A1Gard
[19:36] <johk> can anybody see my messages :/
[19:36] <ducasse> johk: yes, we've seen you
[19:36] <johk> ugh
[19:36] <ostekake> nacc, I created a new portal using targetcli, then cd'ed into "portals" and wrote "create", but it creates it on a pre-defined IP adress. I want to set a costum
[19:37] <ostekake> nacc, https://hastebin.com/ferohosofe.hs <- the command I ran
[19:38] <nacc> ostekake: i mean, it can presuambly only use the IP of the server it's running on
[19:38] <Apachez> 2nd time I encountered an ubuntu installation where /etc/apt is missing
[19:38] <nacc> ostekake: i don't have targetcli installed, but i'd check `man targetcli` otehrwise
[19:38] <ostekake> nacc, yes I guess so, but I'm following a book I got at the library tellin me to put a specific IP there
[19:38] <Apachez> are there no easy way to restore the default structure and sources.list etc within /etc/apt ?
[19:38] <A1Gard> I cant connect openvpn server in Ubuntu but in windows is possible what is the reason ?
[19:38] <ostekake> I'll do that :)
[19:39] <nacc> ostekake: i've not used targetcli myself, i've used tgtadm/tgt-admin
[19:39] <nacc> ostekake: i'm guessing they are the same
[19:39] <nacc> ostekake: but either way, the portal definition is unrelated to what disks are defined (afaict)
[19:39] <nacc> ostekake: the portal is defined by the tgt server you are talking to
[19:41] <ostekake> hmm thanks, I'll look into it. reading the (very large) man now
[19:46] <pavlos> ostekake, seems the create command accepts an ip and port, ... /iscsi/iqn.20...
[19:46] <pavlos> 70c82fb
[19:46] <pavlos> portals/
[19:46] <pavlos> create 192.168.62.151
[19:46] <pavlos> sorry
[19:46] <ostekake> yes it does pavlos, but it failed.
[19:47] <ostekake> pavlos, https://hastebin.com/hunavozade.pas
[19:47] <pavlos> ostekake, page 46, http://www.linux-iscsi.org/Doc/LIO%20Admin%20Manual.pdf
[19:47] <nacc> ostekake: right, is that an ip on your server?
[19:47] <nacc> ostekake: again, it can't make a portal appear on a route it can't find
[19:50] <ostekake> no it's not, but the task in the book says it HAS to be that IP-adress. I presume to teach me something, is it not possible?
[19:50] <ostekake> pavlos,
[19:50] <Dethfull> anyone using crond in androed?
[19:51] <ostekake> so I'll have to virtually create it inside of icsi or something?
[19:51] <nacc> ostekake: what? the book says it must be some specific IP address?
[19:51] <the_mx> Hi, I have msi gs40 6qe installed 16.10 updated. even installed prereleased updates but I can not use intel graphics it freeze on login. Thanks.
[19:51] <ostekake> yes nacc
[19:52] <ducasse> Dethfull: you mean android? if so, ask in #android...
[19:52] <nacc> ostekake: that doesn't really make sense. what book is this?
[19:52] <ostekake> it's in Norwegian "Linux systemadministrasjon, en introduksjon.". it's an intro book to learn linux sysadmin tasks
[19:53] <Dethfull> ducassen i am banned, because i disknow this word. is unix, i configured crond today, now i am using my tasker .
[19:53] <nacc> ostekake: does a previous chapter instruct you to create a local network?
[19:53] <Dethfull> ducasse i am banned, because i disknow this word. is unix, i configured crond today, now i am using my tasker .
[19:54] <ostekake> nacc, it's a later chapter it seems
[19:54] <ducasse> Dethfull: we don't support android here. you could try ##linux
[19:54] <nacc> ostekake: seems like an odd order
[19:54] <caene> Is there a noticable difference in performance while gaming, between proprietary and open source nvidia drivers? Thinking CSGO and normal games on Steam that are Linux native.
[19:54] <ostekake> maybe I should change book, but I'm 80% done with the task and really wanted to complete it
[19:55] <ducasse> ostekake: du kan også bruke #ubuntu-no for support på norsk :)
[19:55] <BlueLobster> butts
[19:55] <ostekake> got everything except the portal with correct ip up
[19:55] <ostekake> ducasse, sikkert flere som kan iscsi her tenkte jeg : )
[19:55] <Dethfull> ducasse , my crond is done. the freenode's #android, recused me banned me. i don't need them anymore.
[19:55] <backbox> hi guys
[19:56] <Dethfull> crond in androed is a mirror, identical than ubuntu. nothing changed.
[19:57] <nacc> ostekake: while the book might be useful, it helps in this case to think of what you're doing. You're setting up your system to be an iSCSI server. Unless that IP *means* something, it is nonsense for it to be the portal
[19:58] <ostekake> Fair enough, thanks for the help! I'll just say Ḯm done with the task, google showed me a new and better looking (and free!) book I can change too :)
[19:58] <ostekake> *to
[19:59] <nacc> ostekake: seems reasonable :)
[19:59] <johk> sup guys
[20:00] <ducasse> !ask | johk
[20:00] <ppedro> nubcakes
[20:05] <johk> can somebody help me my ubuntu crashes everytime when i run dis one command
[20:06] <johk> ?
[20:06] <raub> Have 16.04, installed the nvidia-367 package. I am now no longer able to setup both of my monitors as a single one. And xorg -configure tells me that "(EE) [drm] Failed to open DRM device for pci:0000:01:00.0: -19
[20:07] <genii> johk: If you copy the command you are running and the results of what happens when you run it, and put it into a pastebin, giving us the address of the pastebin, perhaps someone might look at it and give a suggestion
[20:07] <genii> !pastebin | johk
[20:10] <johk> ok so some body once told me to run this command http://paste.ubuntu.com/24080134/ to fix issue whit the networking protokol and its just making my pc lag like crazy shit
[20:10] <BlueLobster> goddammit
[20:10] <BlueLobster> BUTTS
[20:12] <ducasse> johk: that wouldn't fix any networking issue, and i strongly suspect you knew that...
[20:13] <zorin_> Hiii
[20:14] <zorin_> Anyone online ?
[20:14] <johk> yup
[20:14] <backbox> yes
[20:14] <stratocastornm> just got here
[20:14] <zorin_> Okay so I've been looking for a new distro
[20:14] <zorin_> Ive previously used Ubuntu but its just too ugly and buggy
[20:14] <genii> ducasse: Conceivably they didn't know it was a forkbomb, but I'm more inclined to suspect they're just trying to get someone in here to run it
[20:14] <zorin_> I dont particularly like unity
[20:15] <zorin_> So any recommendations ?
[20:15] <stratocastornm> xubuntu?
[20:15] <ioria> zorin_, gnome-shell
[20:15] <zorin_> I tried still too ugly.
[20:15] <zorin_> Currently Im using Zorin 12 Ultimate
[20:15] <stratocastornm> centOS?
[20:16] <k1l> zorin_: that taste polling better suits into #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:16] <zorin_> Im looking for a Ubuntu derivative
[20:16] <zorin_> an*
[20:17] <kusti85> don't go derivative, go straight debian
[20:17] <stratocastornm> I just got to say, set up dual boot last night ubuntu 16.04 windows 7, and man, its so easy compared to back in the day
[20:17] <xangua> ! Flavors | zorin_
[20:17] <k1l> zorin_: then choose mate, gnome-shell, kde, budgie, xfce,... its your choice. we cant help you on that on the technical side.
[20:18] <xangua> There's a new official Ubuntu flavor coming, don't remember the name
[20:18] <stratocastornm> On a more technical note, anyone here get folding at home running on ubuntu? I've got an odd python dependency problem
[20:18] <k1l> xangua: budgie is already a flavor
[20:18] <genii> xangua: Budgie maybe?
[20:18] <xangua> That is, yes
[20:19] <ducasse> k1l: not until 17.04, aiui
[20:19] <zorin_> Budgie doesnt a battery percentage indicator does it?
[20:19] <xangua> Budgie supports Ubuntu indicators
[20:20] <zorin_> I couldnt find the battery one
[20:20] <maja> quit
[20:23] <caimlas> hello, is there anyone here who might help me figure out what's breaking with systemd to, essentially, cause a VM system to be inoperable? I've got an up-to-date 16.04.2 VM. Several times today, I've "lost" resolvconf and the ability to connect; dmesg shows "systemd-journald[357]: Failed to create new runtime journal: No such file or directory" at/around the time of the issue occurring but I've not been able to find any logs as to what
[20:23] <caimlas> might actually be going on.
[20:26] <k1l> ducasse: you are right. it got granted flavor status but 17.04 is the first release iso.
[20:26] <ducasse> caimlas: you can enable persistent logging, look at this link, a bit down - http://askubuntu.com/questions/763638/no-more-boot-logging-since-16-04
[20:28] <Guest24425> Hey all! Does anybody have SSL_ERROR_BAD_MAC_ALERT and ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR in browsers for Linux Mint 18.1 x64 with latest updates?
[20:28] <arooni> is it bad practice to try to sudo su www-data ?  on ubuntu it looks like this results in an error because there is no login shell for www-data...
[20:28] <caimlas> ducasse, yeah, I was aware of that. Unfortunately, as you can see from the message I pasted, journald appears to be f*cking off. Any logs it might provide are unavailable...
[20:28] <ducasse> k1l: i vaguely recalled the announcement saying that :)
[20:28] <ducasse> !mint | Guest24425
[20:29] <akik_> arooni: you can tell su the shell to use with -s
[20:30] <ducasse> caimlas: my thinking was that if you enable persistent logging you might actually be able to read more info then you can now, as it will be stored on disk
[20:30] <ducasse> *than you can now
[20:31] <ducasse> caimlas: since now the logs are discarded when it dies...
[20:32] <caimlas> ducasse, yeah, perhaps. we'll see.
[20:32] <arooni> akik_: without giving it a login shell?
[20:33] <nacc> arooni: it's bad practice (afaict) to `sudo su` period
[20:33] <nacc> arooni: there are more correct ways to use flags to sudo
[20:34] <ducasse> caimlas: then when the system goes screwy, you can ask for the logs pertaining to resolvconf.service from the last hour, for example
[20:34] <Guest24425> Guys, is anybody have SSL_ERROR_BAD_MAC_ALERT and ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR errors in browsers with latest updates of Ubuntu 16.04?
[20:34] <Ben64> Guest24425: mint still  isn't supported here, don't try to be tricky
[20:34] <Guest24425> Chrome and Chroimum don't work. Firefox works, but sometimes it doesn't load resources due to the SSL_ERROR_BAD_MAC_ALERT error
[20:35] <Guest24425> Well, I don't trying. Looks like it is an error in libnss3
[20:36] <caimlas> ducasse, right, fair enough. I've somehow managed to avoid munging with systemd breakage all too much so far.
[20:36] <k1l> Guest24425: mint handles updates and security updates differently. so ask them.
[20:36] <Ben64> Guest24425: you're running mint. get support from the mint channel at #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[20:37] <Guest24425> Thanks. Yes, I'm running mint and I've already contacted this channel
[20:37] <Guest24425> But looks like the error is not only in mint
[20:37] <Ben64> but _your_ error is in mint so it has no place here
[20:37] <Guest24425> Anyway, thanks for help
[20:38] <arooni> nacc: what should i be doing instead?
[20:38] <Guest24425> Ben64: the only reason I'm asking is because I want to know the error affects only me or someone else
[20:38] <ducasse> caimlas: you can also do 'journalctl -p 4 --since today' to see messages of priority 'warning' or higher. smaller number = higher priority. journalctl is actually very nice.
[20:38] <Ben64> Guest24425: either way that doesn't affect anything
[20:38] <nacc> arooni: what are you trying to do? i've often used `sudo -s -H`
[20:39] <azizLIGHT> i have encountered an issue while trying to upgrade to HWE stack, while on 14.04.5 x64 LTS: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24070775/ then i did ' sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libgl1-mesa-dri-lts-xenial_11.2.0-1ubuntu2~trusty1_amd64.deb ' successfully: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24075194/ and then tried to do the HWE stack multiarch command again but this happend:
[20:39] <azizLIGHT> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24075210/ ... so how do i go about fixing all this so i can get HWE?
[20:40] <deathSong> [ND],  A1Gard: Salam pori
[20:40] <deathSong> A1Gard: salam
[20:41] <arooni> nacc: edit some files within the web root directory that nginx is serving one of my sites from (wordpress).  i'm annoyed that as my ssh user i can't create/edit any files within this web root directory without sudo; and when i do; its not set to www-data so i have to do a sudo chown www-data:www-data -R each time i'm done
[20:41] <nacc> azizLIGHT: where did you get nvidia-358 from?
[20:41] <azizLIGHT> nacc: from semi official ppa https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[20:41] <ubuntly> hi
[20:41] <Ben64> arooni: www-data doesn't need to own the files, it just needs to be able to read them
[20:42] <nacc> azizLIGHT: you might be best-served disabling nvidia during the update; but even so, 358 is now longer listed as current from that ppa
[20:42] <arooni> Ben64: nacc is there a way to guarantee every file i create with my ssh user gets group ownership of www-data ?
[20:43] <arooni> or do i have to basically run a sudo chown -R :www-data when i'm done
[20:43] <Ben64> arooni: unnecessary
[20:43] <Ben64> again, www-data only needs to be able to read the files
[20:43] <nacc> arooni: just change the permissions to be readable?
[20:43] <azizLIGHT> nacc: yes its now not listed in the ppa anymore, its old now (i had issues with newere ones so i resorted to using this old one)
[20:43] <nacc> azizLIGHT: i'm guessing that is an incompatible situtation -- using an old package with trying to run the latest package from the archives
[20:43] <Ben64> azizLIGHT: you gotta stop doing things manually
[20:44] <azizLIGHT> ?
[20:44] <Ben64> all of your problems are because you decided to do something weird
[20:44] <arooni> Ben64: nacc but i need to give it permisions somehow; and i dont want to give global +rx permissions to it; so shoudlnt i be oding it thru the group
[20:45] <Ben64> like hey i'm gonna remove xorg, or i'm gonna force install this package from hwe, and an outdated nvidia package from a ppa
[20:45] <Ben64> arooni: global read is fine
[20:45] <nacc> arooni: why does global read matter?
[20:45] <nacc> arooni: and you don't need to execute anything in php
[20:45] <nacc> arooni: it's an interpreted language
[20:45] <azizLIGHT> all im trying to do is have updated kernel and updated graphics
[20:45]  * nacc kind of feels if you don't understand that, then you shouldn't be running PHP code
[20:45] <azizLIGHT> i have to resort to ppa for that what can i do
[20:46] <Ben64> azizLIGHT: but you're not using the ppa
[20:47] <arooni> nacc: Ben64 ;; so nginx only needs read permissions ?
[20:47] <arooni> what about execute on the say upload directory
[20:47] <Ben64> every directory needs execute
[20:48] <nacc> but directories aren't being created/chagned, so that doesn't really matter here
[20:48] <azizLIGHT> nacc: so how should i go about disabling nvidia ?
[20:50] <nacc> azizLIGHT: i don't know, i would have suggested ppa-purge, since you're not technically using the ppa -- and then maybe re-adding it later
[20:51] <ducasse> azizLIGHT: right now, you should probably run 'apt-get -f install' to fix your dependencies, at least see what it wants to do
[21:01] <platzhirsch> I have a HP program running apparently, I have a small icon on the top bar and I don't know how to get rid of it
[21:01] <platzhirsch> any idea how to find out which process that is
[21:02] <k1l> platzhirsch: sounds like hplip? the printer driver?
[21:03] <mokka> Hello dear people! I'm doing a school assignment target towards teaching us linux/ubuntu. It wants me to create user accounts, and that is no problem. But it specifies to store their email address. I have no idea how to add the email adress to user accounts and google told me nothing, is there something easy I'm missing? :) (currently tried adduser and useradd)
[21:03] <platzhirsch> k1l: yes it is, but I uninstalled that
[21:05] <nacc> mokka: maybe look at `man chfn`
[21:05] <nacc> mokka: or `man usermod` and teh comment field
[21:05] <mokka> nacc, I already looked at it but it has no option for emailk
[21:06] <nacc> mokka: well, of course not, users don't need an e-mail address
[21:06] <mokka> hmm so I'll just need to make a new field
[21:06] <nacc> mokka: you can't, trivially, make a new field in, e.g., /etc/passwd
[21:06] <nacc> mokka: at least not without possibly breaking every program out there that assumes it can parse it as-is
[21:06] <ducasse> mokka: just use the 'other' field
[21:07] <nacc> ducasse: i was hoping they'd figure that out on their own :)
[21:07] <mokka> thanks
[21:07] <mokka> :)
[21:08] <ducasse> nacc: ;)
[21:10] <caene> What a joke. Netflix not working on Firefox natively?
[21:12] <jarlath> It works. But you need the right user agent. There's a soln. on askubuntu.
[21:12] <nacc> caene: you're blaming Ubuntu for a decision Netflix made?
[21:13] <caene> No?
[21:13] <nacc> caene: what is your support question, then?
[21:13] <nicomachus> caene: yea.. that's a DRM issue. Blame Netflix, not firefox or Ubuntu.
[21:15] <nicomachus> caene: AFAIK, if you want Netflix on Ubuntu you have to use Google Chrome.
[21:22] <caene> damn you guys are sensitive, never uttered a single word towards Ubuntu or Firefox.
[21:22] <caene> Angry little people will be angry little people, I guess. ;)
[21:23] <nicomachus> k bye
[21:23] <jarlath> ttp://askubuntu.com/questions/828286/now-that-i-have-firefox-49-or-higher-how-do-i-watch-netflix
[21:24] <jarlath> See the comment from Hi-Anger on user agent spoofing.
[21:25] <pavlos> ostekake, yes ...
[21:26] <pavlos> ostekake, was away for a couple of hours
[21:26] <BHSPiMonkey> Using Ubuntu 16.04 (standard flavor with Unity) and my screen never auto-locks, despite my "Brightness & Lock" settings having Lock "ON" and set to "Lock screen after: 1 minute"
[21:27] <BHSPiMonkey> What process/daemon is supposed to regulate screen auto-lock?
[21:30] <SemiNus> hi
[21:30] <SemiNus> I just experienced something weird.
[21:30] <smitty__> hello
[21:30] <SemiNus> my laptop (running Ubuntu 16.10) and my Tablet (Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.5) use the same internet connection
[21:31] <SemiNus> speedtest.net  tells me my laptop had a download speed on 1,5 - 3 Mbit  (I ran multiple tests)
[21:31] <SemiNus> and my tablet rocks it with 55 Mbit
[21:31] <SemiNus> what is going on?
[21:32] <chris32> SemiNus, maybe you don't have the best drivers
[21:32] <nicomachus> SemiNus: what type of wifi receiver does the laptop have?
[21:32] <nicomachus> if it's only 802.11b/g/n and the tablet is 802.11ac that could be the difference.
[21:32] <BHSPiMonkey> SemiNus: could be anything. The devices might not be using the same wifi spec (A/B/G/N/AC) or different bands (2.4GHz/5GHz)
[21:32] <SemiNus> nicomachus, I have no idea, there was one in the laptop already when I bought it
[21:33] <nicomachus> SemiNus: can you paste the output of 'sudo lshw -C network' to a pastebin and link here?
[21:33] <SemiNus> what steps do I need to undertake in order to find out more and check ti?
[21:33] <SemiNus> *it
[21:33] <SemiNus> nicomachus, ok! 1 moment pls!
[21:34] <SemiNus> nicomachus, https://dpaste.de/VKEh/raw
[21:34] <sk__> hi all, i got a configure: error: Missing required libcurl >= 7.15.2 but ii  libcurl3-gnutls:amd64
[21:35] <sk__> any ideas?
[21:35] <dannyLopez> Hi.
[21:35] <k1l> sk__: what ubuntu exactly?
[21:35] <llutz> sk__: you need the -dev package
[21:36] <nicomachus> SemiNus: ahhhhh... that pesky rtl8188 driver
[21:36] <ducasse> SemiNus: RTL8188EE - good luck with that :-/ that's a thoroughly bad chipset with an equally crap driver
[21:36] <sk__> k11 Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[21:37] <SemiNus> ;(
[21:37] <sk__> llutz, the -dev pack is installed: ii  libcurl4-openssl-dev:amd64
[21:37] <nicomachus> there's a fix for it... not sure if it works on 16.10 though
[21:37] <SemiNus> how can I find out what a good laptop is before I buy the next one?
[21:37] <SemiNus> I like toshiba sattelites
[21:38] <sk__> any good ideas for that?
[21:39] <k1l> sk__: can you show the complete errormessage on paste.ubuntu.com and link it here?
[21:39] <nacc> sk__: that -dev doesn't match the library you used earlier, fwiw; k1l's suggestion is a good one to help further
[21:39] <sk__> here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24080573/
[21:40] <nacc> sk__: you can look into the config.log (iirc) to see what exactly configure is runing to determine that
[21:40] <nacc> sk__: as it does find libcurl, but declares it unusable
[21:41] <sk__> nice tip
[21:42] <sk__> is seems something undefied on the function: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24080580/
[21:42] <nacc> sk__: there should be more in the log after that
[21:42] <nacc> sk__: to be sure that's what it decides in 'no' :)
[21:42] <sk__> its endless he last line is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24080580/
[21:42] <sk__> sorry
[21:42] <sk__> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
[21:43] <sk__> this is the last line of the error log
[21:43] <nacc> sk__: yes, it's long, but need the whole thing
[21:43] <nacc> sk__: otherwise can't really help
[21:43] <sk__> give me a sec
[21:43] <sk__> i will paste it
[21:43] <nacc> pastebinit | sk__
[21:43] <k1l> sk__: "cat /path/to/file | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:44] <sk__> here it his the whole thing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24080585/
[21:44] <dannyLopez> Anybody use Awesome WM?
[21:44] <SemiNus> nicomachus, will you give me any further advice, or did you leave me alone?
[21:45] <UUID00> is there a way to see the list of all installed iptables extensions?
[21:46] <sk__> nacc, k1l i really dont understand what's wrong, i thing to have not many skill for that.
[21:47] <nicomachus> SemiNus: I have the same driver on my laptop here. I picked up a wifi dongle from Panda that's just a USB and it works perfectly.
[21:47] <nacc> k1l: does it look like it's trying to use the static libcurl, but not requiring static pthread, etc?
[21:47] <nick321> hello guys. I am using official libreoffice ppa and got myself recently 5.3, but can't find notebook bar settings, can anyone confirm or confute?
[21:47] <nicomachus> SemiNus: and then I disabled the rtl8188 device
[21:47] <nacc> nick321: you should ask the PPA owner(s) probably?
[21:48] <nick321> it could be problem of my own, that's why I decided to ask here
[21:49] <sk__> nacc, im tring to compile the binary staticly
[21:49] <SemiNus> how can I disable my card?
[21:49] <pavlos> UUID00, iptables -L
[21:49] <k1l> sk__: libcurl4-gnutls-dev is installed?
[21:50] <nacc> sk__: is there a raeson it needs to be static?
[21:50] <sk__> i tried to install libcurl4-openssl-dev and even libcurl4-gnutls-dev
[21:50] <sk__> nacc, portability is the main reason
[21:50] <k1l> sk__: "tried"?
[21:50] <sk__> if you install libcurl4-gnutls-dev it uninstall ssl and viceversa
[21:51] <sk__> even with libcurl4-gnutls-dev the error is still Missing required libcurl >= 7.15.2
[21:51] <k1l> looks like cpuminer has a lot of issues with libcurl
[21:52] <sk__> seems so, i've read many things in that but i cant get handle this error understanding what he dont like... this is compiling option and not make.....
[21:52] <sk__> so the test should run correctly
[21:52] <illmatix> i'm stuck with a full /boot partition and usually we've just gone in and deleted the other images besides the first, previous and current ones. But this time i don't seem to have any of the linux-image files in this directory and apt just fails to do anything becuase of this
[21:53] <nacc> sk__: it needs to verify it can use libcurl statically and it can't
[21:53] <nacc> illmatix: ls /boot | pastebinit
[21:54] <nacc> illmatix: or c&p
[21:54] <sk__> nacc, you are suggesting me to leave the thing?
[21:55] <illmatix> @nacc http://pastebin.com/Ck1iQhG9
[21:55] <nacc> sk__: i don't know what you mean? i'm saying that you might not be able to build it statically
[21:55] <sk__> yes i mean that, thankyou! :)
[21:56] <nacc> illmatix: not sure what you mean? all those files come from linux-image* packages
[21:56] <nacc> illmatix: have you run `apt-get autoremove`?
[21:56] <illmatix> nacc hrm.. yeah i've tried that too but it fails from the looks of it
[21:56] <illmatix> @nacc http://pastebin.com/K6Lni3DT
[21:57] <illmatix> -f install also fails to do anything
[21:57] <nacc> illmatix: looks like you've messed up some packages
[21:57] <nacc> illmatix: manually, that is
[21:58] <illmatix> oh fun
[21:58] <nacc> illmatix: so you can probably remove linux-image-3.13.0-109-generic
[21:59] <nacc> illmatix: but i mean, there are other ways to fix it
[21:59] <nacc> illmatix: but let's start from the oldest
[21:59] <illmatix> do you have any resources for other ways to fix it?
[22:00] <k1l> illmatix: please show a "dpkg -l | grep linux-image" a "uname -a" and a "ls -al /boot" in a pastebin
[22:00] <nacc> illmatix: do *not* reboot until we're fixed up, but `apt-get remove linux-image-extra-3.13.0-1{09,10}-generic; apt-get autoremove`
[22:00] <Bashing-om> nacc: illmatix :: " z-3.8.0-29-generic " before autoremove . so that it does not know how to deal with removing packages ??
[22:01] <nacc> Bashing-om: i think apt-get is stuck regardless of autreomve
[22:01] <nacc> Bashing-om: because of the broken pakages
[22:04] <illmatix> http://pastebin.com/KFhskEVt  Linux chad.dev 3.13.0-107-generic #154-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 20 09:57:27 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux and http://pastebin.com/Ck1iQhG9
[22:04] <illmatix> pretty sure the machine has been rebooted 6 days ago
[22:06] <illmatix> @nacc that command didn't seem to do anything. Still says apt-get -f install to correct these
[22:06] <nacc> illmatix: can you patsebin the output of the command?
[22:07] <illmatix> @nacc http://pastebin.com/WwVvQK2w
[22:07] <k1l> illmatix: sudo dpkg -r linux-image-extra-3.13.0-109-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-110-generic linux-image-3.13.0-100-generic linux-image-extra-3.13.0-100-generic"
[22:07] <Bashing-om> nacc: " iU  linux-image-generic-lts-raring  " no longer any support .. and now manually intervene to fix the package manager ??
[22:07] <nacc> Bashing-om: yeah i think that's what k1l is suggesting
[22:08] <nacc> k1l: depending on the result, you might have to temporarily remove the meta-pacckage (linux-image-generic) adn then reinstall it
[22:09] <k1l> illmatix: and do run "sudo dpkg -r  linux-generic-lts-raring"
[22:09] <illmatix> k1l I got "dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove linux-generic-lts-raring which isn't installed"
[22:10] <nacc> linux-image-generic-lts-raring
[22:10] <nacc> illmatix: -^
[22:10] <illmatix> ahh
[22:10] <k1l> illmatix: on what command did you get that?
[22:11] <k1l> i guessed you have the lts raring metapackage installed.
[22:14] <illmatix> damn, those commands still seem to fail. But i have to go help someone with something. I'll be back in a bit.
[22:15] <FoeHammered> How does one go about mounting or syncing (or whatever) a Dropbox or Google Drive folder so that a program here can use it?
[22:17] <k1l> !info nautilus-dropbox
[22:17] <k1l> FoeHammered: use this for integration into ubuntu
[22:19] <FoeHammered> Does it matter that I'm using Lubuntu, and nautilus isn't my folder manager thingy?
[22:19] <crendel> FoeHammered: what file manager are you using?
[22:19] <FoeHammered> PCManFM
[22:20] <crendel> FoeHammered: you can use gvfs-google to provide google drive integration. i believe gvfs plays well with pcmanfm
[22:20] <FoeHammered> Okay. Weirder question. How do I tell Google Drive I want to do that?
[22:21] <nacc> FoeHammered: you don't afaict, you'll set up a gvfs mount locally
[22:21] <FoeHammered> Wow. Weird.
[22:21] <nutzz> Is there any standard class for generating permutations?
[22:21] <crendel> FoeHammered: i've not used the gvfs-google package myself, but when you're authenticating with it, it should walk you through authentication
[22:21] <FoeHammered> Very neat.
[22:21] <nacc> nutzz: do you mean to ask in a programming channel?
[22:22] <crendel> FoeHammered: I use the drive package which is cli only and I had to add an api key
[22:22] <crendel> but it's quite straightforward
[22:22] <crendel> probably even moreso with gvfs :)
[22:22] <nutzz> nacc, sorry I thought I am in the java channel
[22:22] <nacc> nutzz: np :)
[22:23] <FoeHammered> Hrng. How do I use gvfs-google? I don't see any packages with that name in Synaptic, and apparently it's not already on my box, though a lot of other gvfs is.
[22:24] <noraatepernos> Can I format an ext4 partition to support ~2 billion inodes without it being a 2TB drive?  I believe the lowest byte ratio is 1024 bytes.  I know ext4 supports over 4 billion inodes.  I’m trying to get something that will allow resize2fs on digital ocean’s ssd block storage.
[22:24] <noraatepernos> Also considering just using btrfs
[22:25] <k1l> noraatepernos: you can set the inodes on creation of the partitions
[22:25] <crendel> FoeHammered: i think it's "gnome-online-accounts" on synaptic...
[22:25] <FoeHammered> Of course.
[22:25] <crendel> FoeHammered: you might need gnome-control-center for graphical configuration if that isn't already installed
[22:25] <FoeHammered> Hrm. I'm looking at gnome-online-accounts and not seeing gvfs-google.
[22:26] <crendel> FoeHammered: i believe it's contained in gnome-online-accounts :)
[22:27] <crendel> FoeHammered: apologies, i run arch now and am not totally familiar with the ubuntu repos anymore
[22:27] <FoeHammered> Understandable.
[22:27] <FoeHammered> How do I search for it?
[22:28] <FoeHammered> Oh my, seems like everybody's using Arch nowadays, judging from where I'm finding reference to this.
[22:28] <crendel> FoeHammered: follow this: http://www.webupd8.org/2016/03/use-gnome-318-google-drive-integration.html
[22:28] <FoeHammered> Thanks!
[22:28] <crendel> FoeHammered: arch is pretty great :) and the wiki is an amazing resource even for users of other distros
[22:28] <Epx998> Getting "ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer
[22:28] <Epx998> " on a fresh 14 and fresh 16 install - what causes this error?
[22:29] <crendel> FoeHammered: gotta be willing to destroy your life a few times though
[22:29] <FoeHammered> Damn. That's oldskool Linux style, right?
[22:30] <FoeHammered> Where you just get used to occasionally ****ing up and destroying everything, then start again?
[22:30] <crendel> 4sho
[22:31] <FoeHammered> Well, if I wanted to become a real proper Linux user, I'd definitely know where to begin, then.
[22:31] <FoeHammered> As is, I settled on Ubuntu because I grew up on Windows but had to make a change for the sake of assembling 64 bit systems. It hadn't yet become necessary or relevant, but I saw the writing on the wall, and didn't want to have to learn from scratch under pressure.
[22:32] <FoeHammered> Eventually moved to lubuntu because it seems to be as comfy as Ubuntu, not as confining as using Gnome, and at the time I started it still fit on a CD.
[22:32] <nacc> FoeHammered: ok, you've veered offtopic :)
[22:32] <FoeHammered> True.
[22:33] <k1l> FoeHammered: the focus from Lubuntu is old and slow hardware. so you miss a lot of services. like you saw now with dropbox and nautilus integration
[22:33] <FoeHammered> Yep. I like to think of it as a nice blank slate upon which I can build as I please.
[22:33] <FoeHammered> Apply my own bloat as I go. I even learn a few things!
[22:34] <k1l> have fun
[22:34] <FoeHammered> So far so good.
[22:34] <crendel> FoeHammered: admirable :)
[22:35] <FoeHammered> I figured, if it got to be too much for me, I could always go back to xubuntu or Ubuntu.
[22:36] <crendel> i think with linux, pushing yourself further and further past the comfort zone pays off in the long run as long as you have a good therapist.
[22:36] <crendel> :)
[22:36] <FoeHammered> What I really should do, though, is force myself to rely more on the command line for a while.
[22:37] <Epx998> Anyone familiar with ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer on a fresh install?
[22:37] <FoeHammered> Weird. gnome-control-center says it can't find gnome-online-accounts, but gnome-online-accounts seems to be installed.
[22:39] <nacc> Epx998: use `ssh -vvv` and see if maybe your key is being rejected?
[22:39] <crendel> Epx998: try verbose? -vvv
[22:39] <FoeHammered> In fact, all I've got is Language Support, Printers and Software & Updates.
[22:39] <Epx998> ill try
[22:40] <FoeHammered> Well, I opened it by other means, so whatever.
[22:40] <crendel> FoeHammered: oh, so you can add the google account now?
[22:41] <Aurorasaura> Would there be anyone here able to point me in the right direction? I have Ubuntu Server (no GUI) and have multiple hard disks I want to add. How would I go about making one big volume? (Like Windows "extended volume"?
[22:41] <FoeHammered> Seems so, except that for some reason I apparently don't accurately remember my password.
[22:41] <k1l> !lvm | Aurorasaura
[22:42] <k1l> Aurorasaura: or use zfs
[22:43] <Aurorasaura> I have tried that k1l but have a hard time finding a tutorial
[22:43]  * FoeHammered frowns, apparently learning things.
[22:44] <azizLIGHT> nacc: if i do sudo apt-get -f install, this is what it wants tme to do: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24080870/
[22:45] <k1l> Aurorasaura: details matter. "i tried to repair a car and its broken"
[22:45] <azizLIGHT> this is in reference to failed HWE upgrade: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24075210/
[22:48] <FoeHammered> WOW! This is awesome.
[22:49] <FoeHammered> Okay, how do I symlink to my google-drive folder elsewhere so that I can use it as a place to put save games for a network game?
[22:52] <k1l> Aurorasaura: i suggest using zffs with a raidz1 or raidz2 (depends on the amount of hdds). ubuntu got native zfs support for data partitions now
[22:53] <k1l> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/ZFS
[22:53] <Aurorasaura> thank you k1l
[22:55] <FoeHammered> gnome-online-accounts doesn't seem to have Dropbox as an option as it stands. Is there a fix for that?
[22:57] <k1l> dropbox doesnt work witht hat
[22:57] <FoeHammered> Aw.
[22:57] <FoeHammered> Well, Google should do, I guess.
[22:57] <crendel> FoeHammered: it doesn't work with gvfs, but some FMs have dropbox addons
[22:57] <crendel> FoeHammered: i know thunar does... not sure about pcmanfm
[22:57] <FoeHammered> Hrm. So I should consider looking up whether PCManFM has a Dropbox addon.
[22:58] <binary01> hi all, i am interested in upgrading to a new computer. Will it work to transfer my physical SSD to my new computer without reinstalling Ubuntu?
[22:58] <FoeHammered> Well, Thunar's was easy to find, that's for sure.
[23:00] <nacc> azizLIGHT: i would first get to a fully clean apt and then add the hwe
[23:01] <Xyphoid77> Does anybody know how to change the font color of the window borders? I am using Compiz with the gtk-window-decorator. I tried changing color in Appearance, dconf-editor, gtk-color-chooser and gnome-tweak-tool, but non of them can change the window title font color
 I am also using Windos-10-dark window border.
[23:02] <FoeHammered> Weird. I'm getting very inconsistent notions of whether mimeopen is installed. I'm'a restart.
[23:02] <azizLIGHT> nacc: and how do i do get a full clean apt
[23:03] <nacc> azizLIGHT: as you are doing now `apt-get -f install` etc
[23:06] <azizLIGHT> nacc: this is what it says for that command. should i press Y http://paste.ubuntu.com/24080870/
[23:06] <FoeHammered> Okay, at least now it's being consistent in not finding mimeinfo at all.
[23:07] <nacc> azizLIGHT: yes, i think so
[23:10] <FoeHammered> Son of a submariner, I have no gorram reading comprehension. Problem solved.
[23:10] <crendel> haha
[23:10] <crendel> happens :)
[23:11] <FoeHammered> Step 4: Open Dropbox from the system tray. It should now open in PCManFM. ... From what?
[23:11] <FoeHammered> How do I do that?
[23:11] <k1l> click on the icon in the panel?
[23:12] <FoeHammered> I don't see one.
[23:15] <azizLIGHT> nacc: hows this look now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24081112/
[23:15] <nacc> azizLIGHT: and if you run -f instll again, it says nothing to do?
[23:16] <nacc> azizLIGHT: you at this point must either run the most current nvidia driver (update to the latest using the PPA explicitly), or remove it altogether (ppa-purge)
[23:16] <azizLIGHT> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24081127/
[23:16] <azizLIGHT> i can do latest i suppose
[23:17] <azizLIGHT> i wanna keep 358 around in case something goes wrong though
[23:17] <azizLIGHT> will i still be able to downgrade to nvidia-358 if something goes wrong?
[23:17] <nacc> azizLIGHT: I don't think you can realistically maintain binary out of tree drivers (actually do they use dkms, I have no idea) and the hwe kernel, but i have no idea
[23:17] <nacc> azizLIGHT: you may want to ask someone more familiar with nvidia here before proceeding too much further
[23:18] <FoeHammered> Hrm. How do I interact with google-drive from the command line?
[23:18] <azizLIGHT> nacc: so id have to use noveau and 4.4?
[23:18] <FoeHammered> Since I can't seem to figure out how to make a symlink.
[23:18] <crendel> FoeHammered: did you get the dropbox icon working?
[23:18] <FoeHammered> Nope.
[23:18] <crendel> you might need to run it manually first from cli
[23:18] <crendel> `dropbox &'
[23:18] <FoeHammered> Oh.
[23:19] <FoeHammered> Annoyingly, it's suggesting nautilus-dropbox
[23:19] <crendel> you'll need to add it to your startp applications (should have an option in preferences to do it automatically)
[23:19] <nacc> azizLIGHT: i genuinely don't know -- i would suggest that using nouveau (which is in the 4.4 kernel aiui) and getting the hwe booted kernel first, is more relevant than a binary driver; but i have no idea what your use case is
[23:19] <crendel> hmm... if it didn't install dropbox as a dependency, you might need to install the dropbox package as well?
[23:20] <crendel> as far as google drive from command line, you could use the `drive` package, but i don't think that will play well with gvfs-google if you get it working
[23:20] <FoeHammered> Tempting to switch to Thunar just for this.
[23:20] <azizLIGHT> nacc: lets say i go to latest nvidia driver, then i run the hwe command?
[23:20] <FoeHammered> I seem to have gvfs-google working, yeah.
[23:20] <azizLIGHT> whats the next step
[23:20] <nacc> azizLIGHT: what do you mean? those are two steps
[23:21] <crendel> FoeHammered: give thunar a go! it's nice and similarly lightweight
[23:21] <azizLIGHT> i meant what are the steps. 1) go nvidia latest or ppa-purge and use nouveau 2) do hwe upgrade command. is that right?
[23:21] <FoeHammered> Is there anything I should know about how to go about that?
[23:21] <FoeHammered> 'Cause PCManFM might be a little too light for my tastes. I've struggled a bit with it.
[23:22] <crendel> FoeHammered: i think you can just grab it off synaptic and make it your default
[23:22] <crendel> FoeHammered: pretty straightforward. it also uses gvfs, so you should be able to use what you've done for drive already
[23:22] <crendel> FoeHammered: then I think there's a thunar-dropbox package out there
[23:23] <nacc> azizLIGHT: again, I am not an expert, i've not done it, but it does feel like you need to decide on 1) and do it, then do 2)
[23:23] <azizLIGHT> hmmm okay
[23:24] <FoeHammered> There is, in fact, a thunar-dropbox package.
[23:24] <crendel> FoeHammered: whoo!
[23:24] <FoeHammered> Yeah, it's one of the reasons I was quick to say "maaaaaybe Thunar is the ticket."
[23:25] <crendel> well, "FoeHammered", "hammer", mjölnir, Thor, "Thunar"
[23:25] <crendel> seems like a natural connection :)
[23:25]  * FoeHammered laughs.
[23:25] <FoeHammered> That said, FoeHammer is Glamdring, which is Tolkien, which is different.
[23:26] <crendel> hot damn
[23:26] <FoeHammered> Yeah, I use Glamdring primarily from my phone.
[23:26] <crendel> get out of this channel and into my life
[23:26]  * FoeHammered laughs.
[23:26] <FoeHammered> o/~ and into my car o/~
[23:27] <crendel> haha
[23:27] <zleap> hi does ubuntu one still exist
[23:34] <Aurorasaura> can multiple drives have the same mount point?
[23:35] <Zambzz> anyone help me please, tried switching to unity8 in 16.10 but now im stuck in a black screen, tried using startx but shows me no interface options, tried restarting lightdm but nothing, what doni need to type to revert bk to unity 7?
[23:37] <Epx998> hmm what the heck -> ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer
[23:37] <Epx998>  dont understand why this is happening all of a sudden on new installs
[23:37] <crendel> Epx998: did you do ssh -vvv?
[23:38] <crendel> Zambzz: does the blank screen happen before or after logging in with lighdm?
[23:38] <Zambzz> i have no login screen but then i think i put it to log me in automaticly
[23:39] <uRock> Installing ubuntu server and at the screen to select services, am I correct in thinking "virtual machine host" means being set for VMs to run within it?
[23:39] <Epx998> crendel: yeah -> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d5bacbe23a0fb9e71ef1733c1e68f8ac
[23:40] <crendel> Zambzz: what's in ~/.dmrc?
[23:41] <compdoc> uRock, yeah, using kvm
[23:41] <compdoc> qemu-kvm
[23:42] <uRock> compdoc, thanks
[23:42] <compdoc> and virsh
[23:42] <nacc> Epx998: did you look at the -vvv output as suggested earlier?
[23:43] <Epx998> naac: I did, if there is an obvious error in the gist i pasted, I am not seeing it.  never had this happen before.
[23:43] <nacc> Epx998: sorry, didn't see the gist earlier?
[23:43] <Zambzz> crendel, it says Session=unity8
[23:43] <Epx998> nacc: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d5bacbe23a0fb9e71ef1733c1e68f8ac
[23:43] <nacc> Epx998: i take it you're on a raspbian?
[23:44] <Epx998> maybe some firewall is happening
[23:44] <crendel> Zambzz: hm, if unity7 is still installed, try replacing it with unity7
[23:44] <crendel> Zambzz: if i were you I'd try to figure out why unity8 is hanging though. try checking the lightdm logs and ~/.xsession-errors
[23:45] <zleap> i think you disable the firewall by using sudo service ufw stop (but don't quote me on that
[23:45] <nacc> Epx998: i'm not sure, but i don't think that's ubuntu -- and it's hard to tell but i'd guess maybe a key mismatch?
[23:45] <Epx998> nacc: yes, but i've tried from different servers
[23:45] <zleap> if ytou disable the firewall and it works you know the firewall was possibly causing the issue
[23:46] <Epx998> nacc: I tried from a server thats never connected. hmm.
[23:46] <Bashing-om> Zambzz: A thought; at the login box session dropdowm, can you not choose unity7 ?
[23:46] <crendel> Epx998: are you trying to connect with identity files? what's the command you're issuing
[23:47] <Zambzz> Crendel, errors just keep repeating "unity8-dash main process (2968) killed by ABRT Signal
[23:47] <Epx998> nacc: no identify files are benig specified
[23:48] <nacc> Epx998: does the server indicate anything in its logs?
[23:48] <Zambzz> could it be my vpn client interfering as launches the pass window as sooon as i startup?
[23:50] <Zambzz> its not the best coded vpn client,msecure and works but could be better
[23:50] <Epx998> nacc: nothing that I can see, checking to see if something pops up
[23:51] <crendel> Zambzz: possibly... does that prompt actually pop up?
[23:52] <Zambzz> only when i type startx, overwise i can see anything due to black screen
[23:52] <Zambzz> cant*
[23:53] <azizLIGHT> when i do  ' dpkg -l | grep xedgers ' i see a bunch of packages with rc in the front: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24081254/ . if i dont want any xedgers stuff lingering on my system, what should i do? it seems like some of it is installed even though it says rc? heres apt-cache policy of those packages: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24081262/
[23:53] <Zambzz> btw changing the ~/.dmrc to unity 7 did nothing
[23:55] <nacc> !ppa-purge | azizLIGHT
[23:55] <azizLIGHT> nacc: i already have run ppa-purge on xorg-edgers
[23:56] <crendel> Zambzz: hm. you could try reinstalling lightdm and unity8 from apt-get
[23:56] <azizLIGHT> this is packages that have ubuntu repo versions but configs or something from xorg-edgers ppa lingering? im noit sure
[23:56] <nacc> azizLIGHT: you have other ppas than xorg-edgers
[23:56] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: While there is no built in way to remove all of your configuration information from your removed packages you can remove all configuration data from every removed package. To purge all removed but not yet purged packages, where The state is rc, the package is removed, but the config files are not removed.... - dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge - .
[23:56] <crendel> Zambzz: and removing ~/.cache might help (possibly try that before)
[23:56] <Epx998> nacc: I wonder if my preseed is wrong all of a sdden
[23:56] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: ma man
[23:57] <Epx998> nacc: its my dhcp server
[23:57] <nacc> Epx998: hrm
[23:58] <Epx998> nacc: I am testing dnsmasq/tftp for 14 and 16, new setup - when i disable dnsmsaq and reable the legacy dhcp, it works
[23:58] <Zambzz> whats then command to reinstall, im still beginnger when it comes to this stuff
[23:58] <Epx998> workmate wanted me to try a new dnsmasq.conf he wrote - day he left, that bastard.
[23:59] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: that did the trick. thanks