[07:35] * desrt yawns [07:50] mvo: good morning :) [08:28] slow morning =) [08:28] didrocks: hej :) [08:28] hey desrt ;) [08:28] actually, already working for ~1h, just didn't connect until now :) [08:29] nod. [08:29] * desrt has been up with mascha since 6, started working ~7 [08:30] 6! you early birds :) [08:30] she has this sprint-type thing at work this week... very early to very late [08:30] now that Julie doesn't wake up at 6:30, 7:30 is early enough for me :) [08:30] oh [08:30] "intense" [08:31] "kaizen" [08:34] wtf. 3rd email i've gotten in the past week or so from random trivial accounts i have (membership programmes, etc.) about "you need to reset your password now" [08:37] perhaps all of them were using cloudflare? [08:37] thanks for giving me the correct thing to google :) [08:38] they were all saying stuff like "you might have heard the news..." [08:38] probably also explains why irccloud burned my sessions a few days ago [08:42] hey desrt sarnold, re didrocks [08:43] morning, seb :) [08:43] morning seb128 :) [08:57] morning all [08:59] hey willcooke, how are you? [08:59] hey seb128! The sun is out again! [08:59] lucky you [09:00] it was pourring down here this morning [09:00] it stopped now but it's grey&windy [09:00] they forecast the same for the rest of the week [09:02] I wonder, is it that everyone is quite happy to talk about the weather or has hanging around with Brits made you do it [09:02] :) [09:02] morning [09:02] Don't get me wrong, it is a favoured topic for me :) [09:02] I think it's not only the Brits [09:02] hey Laney [09:02] how are you? [09:02] got some climbing action yesterday? ;-) [09:03] good! [09:03] nope, I went sunday so stayed home last night [09:03] although now I realise that I won't get to go today [09:04] because i'll be eating pancakes [09:04] doh [09:04] how are you? [09:06] I'm good! [09:06] looking forward the pancakes eating tonight :-) [09:06] Laney: won't we all :D hmmmmmmm pancakes [09:06] Morning all [09:06] no tennis for me this week though, winter lessons cycle is over and it's raining/windy so not nice to go play with someone [09:06] hey davmor2 [09:07] https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/15937291_1254103734635952_4379775996593889516_o.jpg?oh=d5526fb3aa7effe38389af8be585bd68&oe=5943BF93 [09:08] seb128: take up badminton [09:09] davmor2, tennis can be played indoor as well, it's just that the club I'm going to doesn't have the facilities [09:10] seb128: yeah true [09:24] pitti: BTW I think maybe slangasek is noticing/asking about https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+git/autopkgtest-cloud/tree/worker/worker#n341 in that bug === JanC is now known as Guest13435 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [09:25] Laney: ah, maybe -- I forgot about that part [09:26] me too [09:26] well, my spidy sense was tingling but I couldn't grasp why [09:27] Laney: so maybe he did mean that, but hten his example was bad [09:27] http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/l/linux should pretty much always have the kernel from -proposed [09:27] err, no, I'm all confused [09:29] noted so in the bug [09:30] merci [09:30] pitti: and more importantly, good morning :-) [09:30] indeed, good morning to you to! [09:33] duflu, hey, do you do you zesty/gtk-mir testing using the zesty version of gtk or the zesty-proposed one? [09:33] lut pitti, comment ça va ? [09:33] seb128: Pure zesty, not proposed [09:34] seb128: Although I think dinamic (pixel) uses proposed [09:34] duflu, could you test with proposed, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/3.22.7-1ubuntu3 has a stack of changes/fixes and it would be more relevant to know what's the status of that than from the old known-to-be-buggy version [09:35] k [09:35] just wanted to point that ^ [09:36] it's been blocked in proposed for a while due to some transitions [09:47] jbicha, Laney, did you see bug #1666833 (seems an issue with new nautilus or gtk from the description) [09:47] bug 1666833 in overlay-scrollbar (Ubuntu) "Nautilus GTK overlay scrollbars never appear at small window sizes" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1666833 [09:52] no, but it does happen to me too [09:56] thanks for testing [09:56] there's something about shrinking views in 3.20.4 [09:56] that is on my list to update to anyway [09:57] cool [10:06] Where did the d_idrocks privacy options go in control centre? [10:07] willcooke, that was discussed yesterday afternoon here, L_aney said he uploaded a fix ... try upgrading? [10:07] oh wow [10:07] :) [10:07] omg british peope [10:07] good morning :D [10:07] Physic developers [10:07] willcooke, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/zesty-changes/2017-February/008485.html [10:07] I think [10:07] thanks seb128 - will try [10:08] morning desrt [10:08] yw, thanks to L_aney! [10:08] it's not out of proposed [10:08] I'm living on the edge [10:08] well, the edge of Xenial [10:08] I didn't analyse that, but I would guess that it's because of ual [10:08] :/ [10:09] Laney, was the fix for Z? [10:09] yus [10:09] that bug doesn't affect x [10:09] Where were the settings in X then? I can't find it for some reason [10:10] security & privacy [10:10] http://imgur.com/a/IFU5J [10:11] am I blind, stupid, or something else [10:11] * willcooke hopes it's something else [10:11] willcooke: I'm about to install x I'll see if I can confirm it [10:12] thx davmor2 [10:12] activity-log-manager: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/unity-control-center-1/panels/libactivity-log-manager.so [10:12] do you have that? [10:13] oh, no I dont [10:13] doooh :-) [10:13] it's fine on this other X VM [10:13] seb128: Sorry was in a meeting. Now it's EOD and I need to plough through email. I can't commit to much more right now [10:13] how the heck did I break that [10:14] weird [10:14] duflu, no worry, I'm not asking anything for you to do, just pointing out that testing outdated versions might not be what you want [10:14] check apt log for when it got removed === zsombi_ is now known as zsombi [10:14] I just want zero emails before EOD :) [10:14] duflu, it makes your work less useful [10:25] yeah that patch totally fixes the bug [10:25] it's your lucky day [10:26] :-) [10:26] willcooke: I see Security and Privacy here [10:27] davmor2, thanks. It's something I've done. As usual. [10:27] sorry for the noise [10:28] #managerproblems [10:28] :D [10:29] I do wonder why it would get removed tho [10:30] you should probably do the ol sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop^ [10:30] willcooke: out of interest you didn't force an upgrade on that vm did you? [10:30] ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh [10:31] read the output! :-) [10:31] so maybe I uninstalled zeitgeist [10:31] there you go [10:32] oops [10:32] sorry :) [10:33] got an appointment, back in 30 ish [10:33] ta ta [10:33] And ta ta (sp?) [11:24] Laney: what you want to do with that zeitgeist thing? [11:24] Laney: I mean if we update to latest zeitgeist version (as per jbicha debdiff), that won't change much [11:35] Trevinho: dunno [11:39] get upstream to decide? :-) === alf__ is now known as alf_ [13:34] Laney: well, sure... Upstream has decided for now :-), but in the mean time we should fix the issue for ubuntu [13:34] you're claiming to be upstream? https://code.launchpad.net/~zeitgeist/zeitgeist/+git/zeitgeist/+ref/master [13:34] well, whatever, prepare a diff doing your thing and I'll upload it === tedg_ is now known as tedg [15:23] gnome-software :-( [15:24] opened it from the dash, typed "record" in the search bar at the top, having an empty view with a spinning cursor for 30s now [15:24] (xenial) [15:30] beep bepp bepp [15:30] stupid fingers [15:30] it's too cold in here [15:30] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-02-28 [15:30] Meeting started Tue Feb 28 15:30:40 2017 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:30] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-02-28 | Current topic: [15:30] _o/ [15:30] Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt, dgadomski, fjkong, flexiondotorg (out), happyaron, hikiko, laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter (out), trevinho, robert_ancell (hols) [15:30] hey [15:30] hey === happyaro1 is now known as happyaron [15:30] o/ [15:31] hey [15:31] Fun fact - if you put in a holiday request for the past the system seems to auto approve it :) [15:31] ☺ [15:32] Cuss! [15:32] ☆ [15:33] ok, let's begin [15:33] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-02-28 | Current topic: andyrock [15:33] hey [15:33] so mostly PTO for me [15:33] I worked on the chromium + mir thing [15:34] I'm debugging an issue with eglCreateWindowSurface [15:34] that prevent chromium to properly draw on mir === dgadomski_ is now known as dgadomski [15:34] once fixed that we should get chromium rendered on top of mir [15:35] woo! [15:35] without input and event handling but better than nothing :D [15:35] Oh man. The event-handling in Ozone. [15:35] * qengho shudders. [15:36] :) [15:36] andyrock, EOF? [15:36] well ozone on desktop if basicaly not ready yet [15:36] yep [15:36] thanks andyrock [15:36] #topic attente === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-02-28 | Current topic: attente [15:36] hey [15:37] just looking at gtk bugs under u8 and migrating the backend away from old deprecated mir api [15:37] (eof) [15:37] thanks attente [15:37] #topic desrt === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-02-28 | Current topic: desrt [15:37] just curious but what's the status there? [15:37] oh, sorry :p [15:37] hey. short week, and not super-amazingly productive. mostly chasing a bunch of small issues, reviewing, etc. [15:37] eof [15:37] thanks desrt [15:38] seb128, you want to chat to attente now? [15:38] seb128: i think some of these bugs should be fixed by the package that's blocked in -proposed right now [15:38] willcooke, well after meeting is fine, I just though it would be interesting to know where we stand with gtk-mir [15:38] oki, lets do it after then [15:38] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-02-28 | Current topic: dgadomski [15:38] hey [15:39] * verified bug #1550983 [15:39] * closed bug #1665018 [15:39] * reported bug and backported fix for bug #1666912 [15:39] * working on bug #1646585 [15:39] eof [15:39] bug 1550983 in One Hundred Papercuts "Fails to start with "Couldn't open libGL.so.1" (missing dependency?)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1550983 [15:39] bug 1665018 in cups (Ubuntu Trusty) "client tools ignore -h option without port number" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1665018 [15:39] bug 1666912 in network-manager-openvpn (Ubuntu Zesty) "Invoking openvpn removed option --tls-remote" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1666912 [15:39] bug 1646585 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "oem-config replaces /etc/resolv.conf symlink with a hard file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1646585 [15:39] thanks dgadomski [15:39] #topic FJKong === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-02-28 | Current topic: FJKong [15:39] hey [15:39] * #1566513 gnome-calculator: [SRU] Complex numbers are exponentiated incorrectly, [15:39] it works on Xenial, so maybe should not do SRU. [15:39] * still on going: [15:39] #1667355 merge gtk+2.0 2.24.31-2ubuntu1 [15:39] try to fix many trailing whitespace [15:39] #1667353 merge aptitude 0.8.5-1ubuntu1 [15:39] * another bug: [15:39] System hangs at reboot/shutdown: A stop job is running for ifup for eth0 [15:39] eof [15:40] thanks FJKong [15:40] #topic happyaron === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-02-28 | Current topic: happyaron [15:40] 1. n-m captive portal detection preliminary setup and tests [15:40] 2. verification of n-m SRU, no regression found so far, also the reported regression was a false alarm according to the reporter [15:40] 3. dig in to a problem that when xkb module is enabled in fcitx, there's collisions with u-s-d's xkb settings, but we cannot disable xkb settings in u-s-d because fcitx cannot do that in login ui [15:40] 4. prepare fcitx component updates [15:40] EOF [15:41] thanks happyaron , good news on the false-positive regression [15:41] #topic hikiko === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-02-28 | Current topic: hikiko [15:43] oh hikiko is on a swap day [15:43] my bad [15:43] #topic Laney === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-02-28 | Current topic: Laney [15:43] meow [15:43] • autopkgtest: [15:43] ∘ spent a while coming up with an elaborate solution to #1630578, but then it couldn't work in reality because of something to do with threads and POSIX and the 1970s, so submitted a fix to do the dumb thing instead [15:43] ∘ looked into trusty/armhf tests going missing; a forgotten apt update call [15:43] ∘ helped apw get a system with a failing linux test to debug on [15:43] ∘ some random investigations (e.g. looking at mariadb failures) [15:43] • more fwupd testing, another round of proposed confinement changes from upstream - found a bug, think it's fixed now [15:43] • look at new as-glib, find ABI break, fixed that upstream [15:43] • review/merge/urge to fwd a change to gst-bad in zesty [15:43] • nautilus 3.20.4 [15:43] • some reviews for FJ, still some more to do [15:43] • fix activity-log-manager for new XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP [15:43] • some packaging review for new packages that Kylin want to push, gave them back a few issues to fix (e.g. don't use WebKit 1) [15:43] • beta 1 release wrangling/publishing [15:43] 😹 [15:44] :)) thanks Laney [15:44] #topic qengho === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-02-28 | Current topic: qengho [15:44] * Reviewed contributor's suggestion about a new-ish "field trials like official" build [15:44] flag. It was a rabbit hole, but he convinced me it should be ON. [15:44] * Delayed security release because of ^that. Tests seem good. Re-sending to #security. [15:44] * Gave feedback about Cr upstream Gtk3. [15:44] * Chromium arm64 work. Cr is wedged in Z proposed because of new weird arch FTBFS. [15:44] * to-do: Trusty linker failure. [15:44] EOF [15:45] qengho: did you notice that chromium is failing on zesty/arm64? [15:45] ah [15:45] you said that [15:45] :) [15:45] :) thanks qengho [15:45] #topic seb128 === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-02-28 | Current topic: seb128 [15:45] hey [15:45] joined a bunch of meetings & discussions about snaps and desktop work [15:45] • got a working xenial langpacks export \o/ [15:45] • spent some time bug triaging [15:45] (note a fancy summary, but I basically spent a good part of the week reading through documents and mailing list discussions for some of the meetings) [15:45] fsvo 'new' [15:46] oops [15:46] bah, missing the first "• " again [15:46] (tomboy select/copy bug) [15:46] [15:46] thanks seb128 [15:46] #topic Sweet5hark === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-02-28 | Current topic: Sweet5hark [15:46] * Laney starts on a previous blank line due to that [15:46] - USN-3210-1/CVE-2017-3157 for precise, trusty, xenial (finally!) [15:46] - various upstream code cleanup, resolved some broken memory management (among other things: found a 5 line function which was called from exactly one location and also had ... 4 lines of dead code) [15:46] - reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/ApplicationProcess right now [15:46] EOF [15:46] \o/ [15:46] thanks Sweet5hark [15:47] Laney, thanks for the hint, I should do that :-) [15:47] #topic TheMuso === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-02-28 | Current topic: TheMuso [15:47] Sweet5hark, DMB \o/ [15:47] * An unofficial bug report from a member of the community about Mate panels not being accessible. I need to work out why at-spi is not being loaded properly in such isntances, but for now, I'm looking into adjust the systemd unit I added to at-spi2-core to work with Mate as well as Unity. [15:47] * Discussions with Konrad about various PulseAudio bluetooth fixes we might want in Xenial. [15:47] * Made more notes locally about possible things to look at fixing in tie for 17.04. Will look for bugs etc in the next week or so and tag appropriately. [15:47] #topic tka,[[eter === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-02-28 | Current topic: tka,[[eter [15:47] - ippusbxd: Some more tests for networking. [15:47] - Google Summer of Code 2017: The Linux Foundation is accepted as mentoring organization for 2017. 6 students selected up to now for the Common Printing Dialog, one student of last year will work on the pdftopdf CUPS filter, so if all works nicely we have 7 students for OpenPrinting. [15:47] - OpenPrinting Summit 2017: This year's Summit will be only a virtual meeting, via phone and WebEx. [15:47] - Bugs. [15:47] #topic Trevinho === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-02-28 | Current topic: Trevinho [15:47] · Some more improvements to the Remmina snap [15:47] · Fixed some crashes in unity from e.u.c [15:47] · Fixed a lockscreen (minor) security issue with custom option and scaling [15:47] · Debugged and found a problem in zeitgeist + systemd causing unity dash not to work (proposed fix done, but we're discussing on that) [15:47] · Debugging some problems with classic snaps + desktop-helpers [15:47] · Next-cloud client snap fixes [15:47] /EOF [15:48] thanks Trevinho [15:48] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-02-28 | Current topic: AOB [15:48] And we're done pretty much. [15:48] Anyone got any other B? [15:49] going once [15:49] Laney: The arch isnt new. What's new is the attempt to build desktop Cr on ARM64. No one else is trying. Upstream doesn't support it either. [15:49] twice [15:50] sold [15:50] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | requests paired with a pink killer will be given preferential treatment [15:50] Meeting ended Tue Feb 28 15:50:17 2017 UTC. [15:50] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2017/ubuntu-desktop.2017-02-28-15.30.moin.txt [15:50] thanks all [15:50] thanks! [15:50] thanks [15:50] qengho: I meant that the failure has been in z-proposed for a while (December?) [15:50] seb128, attente - sorry to cut you off there, do carry on [15:50] thanks! [15:51] attente, willcooke, I was mostly wondering if we have a list of feature gaps/known issues limitations in the mir backend (due to the backend or mir itself) and where we stand [15:51] seb128: status-wise, there are some pretty obvious bugs still. i'm not sure if you tried the ppa or the package in z-proposed [15:51] seb128: if you're wondering about big-ticket items, drag and drop is a big one [15:53] i'm still working on the migration away from some deprecated mir api, but the branch i have has some regressions and i'm not sure if it's because of gtk or if it's because of mir [15:53] ximion: ok if I upload the new asglib with the ABI fix? [15:53] to exp? [15:54] Laney: to exp is fine [15:55] btw, I recently fixed some corner-case bugs in AppStream - there will be an upload to unstable at some point, with the appropriate FFE [15:55] (definitely something Ubuntu will want too) [15:56] k, requestsync is your friend there ;-) [15:57] ximion: wine1.6/xenial-proposed still shows up as "Configure Wine" instead of "Wine" in gnome-software :( [15:57] https://launchpadlibrarian.net/307535788/wine1.6_1%3A1.6.2-0ubuntu14.1_1%3A1.6.2-0ubuntu14.2.diff.gz [15:59] what's our plan with uploading newer gtk3.22 and content-hub/s390x? [15:59] jbicha: This is weird - the AppStream metadata looks 100% correct: http://appstream.ubuntu.com/data/xenial-proposed/universe/Components-amd64.yml.gz [16:00] jbicha: maybe ensure that you have no leftover metadata in /usr/share/appdata, /usr/share/metainfo and /var/(lib|cache)/app-info [16:01] and if there really is nothing interfering, it's probably a good idea to file a bug against GNOME Software, with a verbose log of GS loading attached [16:01] (killall gnome-software ; gnome-software --verbose) [16:02] could be a bug in GS or appstream-glib# [16:02] or of course in the archive data not being equal to what asgen produced, I haven't tested that yet [16:06] jbicha: i'm not sure about the u-a-l/upstart status, but there's a newer upstream release of gtk 3 that has all of the patches from the original upload. so maybe you want to remove them from debian/patches and use that instead [16:08] attente: yes, that's done in our bzr branch, I'm just wondering whether I should go ahead and upload that now or if we want to disable mir for gtk3/s390x temporarily [16:11] jbicha: upload the newer gtk? won't that still have the same problem with content-hub/s390x? [16:11] yes [16:12] or I could just keep waiting [16:13] yeah, i don't know... i guess it depends on if tedg thinks the u-a-l/upstart stuff might take a while [16:14] i think Laney would vote to wait too though [16:15] I would rather wait, but it sucks to keep your work out of the release [16:17] i'm fine with waiting. there are other bugs to look at still [16:18] I saw a branch, don't know if it's close to being ready yet [16:18] would be good to know that to help us decide [16:18] this one, right? https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/ubuntu-app-launch/rm-rf-upstart/+merge/318039 [16:18] sounds right [16:19] * Laney was just stalking launchpad [16:19] * attente sees lots of red and green chunks [16:20] don't fear change [16:21] change fears YOU in fact [16:21] :o [16:28] attente: Laney: My hopes are that those will get finished up today, then review and QA, and out by the end of the week. [16:29] Hand wavy timeline [16:30] tedg: nice, thanks :) [17:18] Laney: back to that zeitgeist thing, I didn't want to claim that I'm upstream, but that upstream has taken the same solution, so or we change it or we ignore the return value... [17:20] right [17:20] Trevinho: Just do your thing if you want [17:21] Laney: we can fix upstream too, eh... it's just matter of solving the problem [17:22] Laney: I posted a debdiff with that, but if we also want to move to latest zeitgeist git (just few changes), I can prepare a new one unsing zeitgeist --vacuum instead [17:22] Yeah, one on top of 1.0 would be good [17:22] you can move the maybe-vacuum thing out of a patch to a file in debian/ [17:22] that will mamke it easier [17:25] Laney: ok, the jbicha debdiff for some reason doesn't seem to apply to me, so I guess I've to redo the things [17:40] Laney: also you might want to review https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/unity7-wants-ups/+merge/318517 [17:41] Trevinho: nice [17:41] wait [17:41] why not the same for usd? [18:13] ximion: I did a rm -rf /var/lib/app-info/ so how do I get it to rebuild that directory? [18:14] pancake time! Night all [18:16] night! [18:31] pancake overload [18:49] jbicha: just run sudo appstreamcli refresh === thumper is now known as thumper-dogwalk