[07:35]  * desrt yawns
[07:50] <desrt> mvo: good morning :)
[08:28] <desrt> slow morning =)
[08:28] <desrt> didrocks: hej :)
[08:28] <didrocks> hey desrt ;)
[08:28] <didrocks> actually, already working for ~1h, just didn't connect until now :)
[08:29] <desrt> nod.
[08:29]  * desrt has been up with mascha since 6, started working ~7
[08:30] <didrocks> 6! you early birds :)
[08:30] <desrt> she has this sprint-type thing at work this week... very early to very late
[08:30] <didrocks> now that Julie doesn't wake up at 6:30, 7:30 is early enough for me :)
[08:30] <didrocks> oh
[08:30] <didrocks> "intense"
[08:31] <desrt> "kaizen"
[08:34] <desrt> wtf.  3rd email i've gotten in the past week or so from random trivial accounts i have (membership programmes, etc.) about "you need to reset your password now"
[08:37] <sarnold> perhaps all of them were using cloudflare?
[08:37] <desrt> thanks for giving me the correct thing to google :)
[08:38] <desrt> they were all saying stuff like "you might have heard the news..."
[08:38] <desrt> probably also explains why irccloud burned my sessions a few days ago
[08:42] <seb128> hey desrt sarnold, re didrocks
[08:43] <desrt> morning, seb :)
[08:43] <sarnold> morning seb128 :)
[08:57] <willcooke> morning all
[08:59] <seb128> hey willcooke, how are you?
[08:59] <willcooke> hey seb128!  The sun is out again!
[08:59] <seb128> lucky you
[09:00] <seb128> it was pourring down here this morning
[09:00] <seb128> it stopped now but it's grey&windy
[09:00] <seb128> they forecast the same for the rest of the week
[09:02] <willcooke> I wonder, is it that everyone is quite happy to talk about the weather or has hanging around with Brits made you do it
[09:02] <willcooke> :)
[09:02] <Laney> morning
[09:02] <willcooke> Don't get me wrong, it is a favoured topic for me :)
[09:02] <seb128> I think it's not only the Brits
[09:02] <seb128> hey Laney
[09:02] <seb128> how are you?
[09:02] <seb128> got some climbing action yesterday? ;-)
[09:03] <Laney> good!
[09:03] <Laney> nope, I went sunday so stayed home last night
[09:03] <Laney> although now I realise that I won't get to go today
[09:04] <Laney> because i'll be eating pancakes
[09:04] <Laney> doh
[09:04] <Laney> how are you?
[09:06] <seb128> I'm good!
[09:06] <seb128> looking forward the pancakes eating tonight :-)
[09:06] <davmor2> Laney: won't we all :D  hmmmmmmm pancakes
[09:06] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:06] <seb128> no tennis for me this week though, winter lessons cycle is over and it's raining/windy so not nice to go play with someone
[09:06] <seb128> hey davmor2
[09:07] <Laney> https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/15937291_1254103734635952_4379775996593889516_o.jpg?oh=d5526fb3aa7effe38389af8be585bd68&oe=5943BF93
[09:08] <davmor2> seb128: take up badminton
[09:09] <seb128> davmor2, tennis can be played indoor as well, it's just that the club I'm going to doesn't have the facilities
[09:10] <davmor2> seb128: yeah true
[09:24] <Laney> pitti: BTW I think maybe slangasek is noticing/asking about https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-release/+git/autopkgtest-cloud/tree/worker/worker#n341 in that bug
[09:25] <pitti> Laney: ah, maybe -- I forgot about that part
[09:26] <Laney> me too
[09:26] <Laney> well, my spidy sense was tingling but I couldn't grasp why
[09:27] <pitti> Laney: so maybe he did mean that, but hten his example was bad
[09:27] <pitti> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/l/linux should pretty much always have the kernel from -proposed
[09:27] <pitti> err, no, I'm all confused
[09:29] <pitti> noted so in the bug
[09:30] <Laney> merci
[09:30] <Laney> pitti: and more importantly, good morning :-)
[09:30] <pitti> indeed, good morning to you to!
[09:33] <seb128> duflu, hey, do you do you zesty/gtk-mir testing using the zesty version of gtk or the zesty-proposed one?
[09:33] <seb128> lut pitti, comment ça va ?
[09:33] <duflu> seb128: Pure zesty, not proposed
[09:34] <duflu> seb128: Although I think dinamic (pixel) uses proposed
[09:34] <seb128> duflu, could you test with proposed, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/3.22.7-1ubuntu3 has a stack of changes/fixes and it would be more relevant to know what's the status of that than from the old known-to-be-buggy version
[09:35] <seb128> k
[09:35] <seb128> just wanted to point that ^
[09:36] <seb128> it's been blocked in proposed for a while due to some transitions
[09:47] <seb128> jbicha, Laney, did you see bug #1666833 (seems an issue with new nautilus or gtk from the description)
[09:52] <Laney> no, but it does happen to me too
[09:56] <seb128> thanks for testing
[09:56] <Laney> there's something about shrinking views in 3.20.4
[09:56] <Laney> that is on my list to update to anyway
[09:57] <seb128> cool
[10:06] <willcooke> Where did the d_idrocks privacy options go in control centre?
[10:07] <seb128> willcooke, that was discussed yesterday afternoon here, L_aney said he uploaded a fix ... try upgrading?
[10:07] <willcooke> oh wow
[10:07] <willcooke> :)
[10:07] <desrt> omg british peope
[10:07] <desrt> good morning :D
[10:07] <willcooke> Physic developers
[10:07] <seb128> willcooke, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/zesty-changes/2017-February/008485.html
[10:07] <seb128> I think
[10:07] <willcooke> thanks seb128 - will try
[10:08] <willcooke> morning desrt
[10:08] <seb128> yw, thanks to L_aney!
[10:08] <Laney> it's not out of proposed
[10:08] <willcooke> I'm living on the edge
[10:08] <willcooke> well, the edge of Xenial
[10:08] <Laney> I didn't analyse that, but I would guess that it's because of ual
[10:08] <Laney> :/
[10:09] <willcooke> Laney, was the fix for Z?
[10:09] <Laney> yus
[10:09] <Laney> that bug doesn't affect x
[10:09] <willcooke> Where were the settings in X then?  I can't find it for some reason
[10:10] <Laney> security & privacy
[10:10] <willcooke> http://imgur.com/a/IFU5J
[10:11] <willcooke> am I blind, stupid, or something else
[10:11]  * willcooke hopes it's something else
[10:11] <davmor2> willcooke: I'm about to install x I'll see if I can confirm it
[10:12] <willcooke> thx davmor2
[10:12] <Laney> activity-log-manager: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/unity-control-center-1/panels/libactivity-log-manager.so
[10:12] <Laney> do you have that?
[10:13] <willcooke> oh, no I dont
[10:13] <seb128> doooh :-)
[10:13] <willcooke> it's fine on this other X VM
[10:13] <duflu> seb128: Sorry was in a meeting. Now it's EOD and I need to plough through email. I can't commit to much more right now
[10:13] <willcooke> how the heck did I break that
[10:14] <Laney> weird
[10:14] <seb128> duflu, no worry, I'm not asking anything for you to do, just pointing out that testing outdated versions might not be what you want
[10:14] <Laney> check apt log for when it got removed
[10:14] <duflu> I just want zero emails before EOD :)
[10:14] <seb128> duflu, it makes your work less useful
[10:25] <Laney> yeah that patch totally fixes the bug
[10:25] <Laney> it's your lucky day
[10:26] <seb128> :-)
[10:26] <davmor2> willcooke: I see Security and Privacy here
[10:27] <willcooke> davmor2, thanks.  It's something I've done.  As usual.
[10:27] <willcooke> sorry for the noise
[10:28] <Laney> #managerproblems
[10:28] <willcooke> :D
[10:29] <Laney> I do wonder why it would get removed tho
[10:30] <Laney> you should probably do the ol sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop^
[10:30] <davmor2> willcooke: out of interest you didn't force an upgrade on that vm did you?
[10:30] <willcooke> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[10:31] <didrocks> read the output! :-)
[10:31] <willcooke> so maybe I uninstalled zeitgeist
[10:31] <seb128> there you go
[10:32] <willcooke> oops
[10:32] <willcooke> sorry :)
[10:33] <Laney> got an appointment, back in 30 ish
[10:33] <willcooke> ta ta
[10:33] <duflu> And ta ta (sp?)
[11:24] <Trevinho> Laney: what you want to do with that zeitgeist thing?
[11:24] <Trevinho> Laney: I mean if we update to latest zeitgeist version (as per jbicha debdiff), that won't change much
[11:35] <Laney> Trevinho: dunno
[11:39] <Laney> get upstream to decide? :-)
[13:34] <Trevinho> Laney: well, sure... Upstream has decided for now :-), but in the mean time we should fix the issue for ubuntu
[13:34] <Laney> you're claiming to be upstream? https://code.launchpad.net/~zeitgeist/zeitgeist/+git/zeitgeist/+ref/master
[13:34] <Laney> well, whatever, prepare a diff doing your thing and I'll upload it
[15:23] <seb128> gnome-software :-(
[15:24] <seb128> opened it from the dash, typed "record" in the search bar at the top, having an empty view with a spinning cursor for 30s now
[15:24] <seb128> (xenial)
[15:30] <willcooke> beep bepp bepp
[15:30] <willcooke> stupid fingers
[15:30] <willcooke> it's too cold in here
[15:30] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-02-28
[15:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Feb 28 15:30:40 2017 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[15:30] <seb128> _o/
[15:30] <willcooke> Roll call:  andyrock, attente, desrt,  dgadomski, fjkong, flexiondotorg (out), happyaron, hikiko, laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter (out), trevinho, robert_ancell (hols)
[15:30] <happyaro1> hey
[15:30] <andyrock> hey
[15:30] <Trevinho> o/
[15:31] <Sweet5hark> hey
[15:31] <willcooke> Fun fact - if you put in a holiday request for the past the system seems to auto approve it :)
[15:31] <FJKong> ☺
[15:32] <qengho> Cuss!
[15:32] <FJKong> ☆
[15:33] <willcooke> ok, let's begin
[15:33] <willcooke> #topic andyrock
[15:33] <andyrock> hey
[15:33] <andyrock> so mostly PTO for me
[15:33] <andyrock> I worked on the chromium + mir thing
[15:34] <andyrock> I'm debugging an issue with eglCreateWindowSurface
[15:34] <andyrock> that prevent chromium to properly draw on mir
[15:34] <andyrock> once fixed that we should get chromium rendered on top of mir
[15:35] <willcooke> woo!
[15:35] <andyrock> without input and event handling but better than nothing :D
[15:35] <qengho> Oh man. The event-handling in Ozone.
[15:35]  * qengho shudders.
[15:36] <willcooke> :)
[15:36] <willcooke> andyrock, EOF?
[15:36] <andyrock> well ozone on desktop if basicaly not ready yet
[15:36] <andyrock> yep
[15:36] <willcooke> thanks andyrock
[15:36] <willcooke> #topic attente
[15:36] <attente> hey
[15:37] <attente> just looking at gtk bugs under u8 and migrating the backend away from old deprecated mir api
[15:37] <attente> (eof)
[15:37] <willcooke> thanks attente
[15:37] <willcooke> #topic desrt
[15:37] <seb128> just curious but what's the status there?
[15:37] <seb128> oh, sorry :p
[15:37] <desrt> hey.  short week, and not super-amazingly productive.  mostly chasing a bunch of small issues, reviewing, etc.
[15:37] <desrt> eof
[15:37] <willcooke> thanks desrt
[15:38] <willcooke> seb128, you want to chat to attente now?
[15:38] <attente> seb128: i think some of these bugs should be fixed by the package that's blocked in -proposed right now
[15:38] <seb128> willcooke, well after meeting is fine, I just though it would be interesting to know where we stand with gtk-mir
[15:38] <willcooke> oki, lets do it after then
[15:38] <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
[15:38] <dgadomski> hey
[15:39] <dgadomski> * verified bug #1550983
[15:39] <dgadomski> * closed bug #1665018
[15:39] <dgadomski> * reported bug and backported fix for bug #1666912
[15:39] <dgadomski> * working on bug #1646585
[15:39] <dgadomski> eof
[15:39] <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
[15:39] <willcooke> #topic FJKong
[15:39] <FJKong> hey
[15:39] <FJKong> * #1566513 gnome-calculator: [SRU] Complex numbers are exponentiated incorrectly,
[15:39] <FJKong>          it works on Xenial, so maybe should not do SRU.
[15:39] <FJKong> * still on going:
[15:39] <FJKong>     #1667355 merge gtk+2.0 2.24.31-2ubuntu1
[15:39] <FJKong>     try to fix many trailing whitespace
[15:39] <FJKong>     #1667353 merge aptitude 0.8.5-1ubuntu1
[15:39] <FJKong> * another bug:
[15:39] <FJKong>     System hangs at reboot/shutdown: A stop job is running for ifup for eth0
[15:39] <FJKong> eof
[15:40] <willcooke> thanks FJKong
[15:40] <willcooke> #topic happyaron
[15:40] <happyaron> 1. n-m captive portal detection preliminary setup and tests
[15:40] <happyaron> 2. verification of n-m SRU, no regression found so far, also the reported regression was a false alarm according to the reporter
[15:40] <happyaron> 3. dig in to a problem that when xkb module is enabled in fcitx, there's collisions with u-s-d's xkb settings, but we cannot disable xkb settings in u-s-d because fcitx cannot do that in login ui
[15:40] <happyaron> 4. prepare fcitx component updates
[15:40] <happyaron> EOF
[15:41] <willcooke> thanks happyaron , good news on the false-positive regression
[15:41] <willcooke> #topic hikiko
[15:43] <willcooke> oh hikiko is on a swap day
[15:43] <willcooke> my bad
[15:43] <willcooke> #topic Laney
[15:43] <Laney> meow
[15:43] <Laney> • autopkgtest:
[15:43] <Laney> ∘ spent a while coming up with an elaborate solution to #1630578, but then it couldn't work in reality because of something to do with threads and POSIX and the 1970s, so submitted a fix to do the dumb thing instead
[15:43] <Laney> ∘ looked into trusty/armhf tests going missing; a forgotten apt update call
[15:43] <Laney> ∘ helped apw get a system with a failing linux test to debug on
[15:43] <Laney> ∘ some random investigations (e.g. looking at mariadb failures)
[15:43] <Laney> • more fwupd testing, another round of proposed confinement changes from upstream - found a bug, think it's fixed now
[15:43] <Laney> • look at new as-glib, find ABI break, fixed that upstream
[15:43] <Laney> • review/merge/urge to fwd a change to gst-bad in zesty
[15:43] <Laney> • nautilus 3.20.4
[15:43] <Laney> • some reviews for FJ, still some more to do
[15:43] <Laney> • fix activity-log-manager for new XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
[15:43] <Laney> • some packaging review for new packages that Kylin want to push, gave them back a few issues to fix (e.g. don't use WebKit 1)
[15:43] <Laney> • beta 1 release wrangling/publishing
[15:43] <Laney> 😹
[15:44] <willcooke> :)) thanks Laney
[15:44] <willcooke> #topic qengho
[15:44] <qengho> * Reviewed contributor's suggestion about a new-ish "field trials like official" build
[15:44] <qengho>  flag. It was a rabbit hole, but he convinced me it should be ON.
[15:44] <qengho> * Delayed security release because of ^that. Tests seem good. Re-sending to #security.
[15:44] <qengho> * Gave feedback about Cr upstream Gtk3.
[15:44] <qengho> * Chromium arm64 work. Cr is wedged in Z proposed because of new weird arch FTBFS.
[15:44] <qengho> * to-do: Trusty linker failure.
[15:44] <qengho> EOF
[15:45] <Laney> qengho: did you notice that chromium is failing on zesty/arm64?
[15:45] <Laney> ah
[15:45] <Laney> you said that
[15:45] <qengho> :)
[15:45] <willcooke> :) thanks qengho
[15:45] <willcooke> #topic seb128
[15:45] <seb128> hey
[15:45] <seb128> joined a bunch of meetings & discussions about snaps and desktop work
[15:45] <seb128> • got a working xenial langpacks export \o/
[15:45] <seb128> • spent some time bug triaging
[15:45] <seb128> (note a fancy summary, but I basically spent a good part of the week reading through documents and mailing list discussions for some of the meetings)
[15:45] <Laney> fsvo 'new'
[15:46] <Laney> oops
[15:46] <seb128> bah, missing the first "• " again
[15:46] <seb128> (tomboy select/copy bug)
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[15:46] <willcooke> thanks seb128
[15:46] <willcooke> #topic Sweet5hark
[15:46]  * Laney starts on a previous blank line due to that
[15:46] <Sweet5hark> - USN-3210-1/CVE-2017-3157 for precise, trusty, xenial (finally!)
[15:46] <Sweet5hark> - various upstream code cleanup, resolved some broken memory management (among other things: found a 5 line function which was called from exactly one location and also had ... 4 lines of dead code)
[15:46] <Sweet5hark> - reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/ApplicationProcess right now
[15:46] <Sweet5hark> EOF
[15:46] <willcooke> \o/
[15:46] <willcooke> thanks Sweet5hark
[15:47] <seb128> Laney, thanks for the hint, I should do that :-)
[15:47] <willcooke> #topic TheMuso
[15:47] <seb128> Sweet5hark, DMB \o/
[15:47] <willcooke> * An unofficial bug report from a member of the community about Mate panels not being accessible. I need to work out why at-spi is not being loaded properly in such isntances, but for now, I'm looking into adjust the systemd unit I added to at-spi2-core to work with Mate as well as Unity.
[15:47] <willcooke> * Discussions with Konrad about various PulseAudio bluetooth fixes we might want in Xenial.
[15:47] <willcooke> * Made more notes locally about possible things to look at fixing in tie for 17.04. Will look for bugs etc in the next week or so and tag appropriately.
[15:47] <willcooke> #topic tka,[[eter
[15:47] <willcooke> - ippusbxd: Some more tests for networking.
[15:47] <willcooke> - Google Summer of Code 2017: The Linux Foundation is accepted as mentoring organization for 2017. 6 students selected up to now for the Common Printing Dialog, one student of last year will work on the pdftopdf CUPS filter, so if all works nicely we have 7 students for OpenPrinting.
[15:47] <willcooke> - OpenPrinting Summit 2017: This year's Summit will be only a virtual meeting, via phone and WebEx.
[15:47] <willcooke> - Bugs.
[15:47] <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
[15:47] <Trevinho> · Some more improvements to the Remmina snap
[15:47] <Trevinho> · Fixed some crashes in unity from e.u.c
[15:47] <Trevinho> · Fixed a lockscreen (minor) security issue with custom option and scaling
[15:47] <Trevinho> · Debugged and found a problem in zeitgeist + systemd causing unity dash not to work (proposed fix done, but we're discussing on that)
[15:47] <Trevinho> · Debugging some problems with classic snaps + desktop-helpers
[15:47] <Trevinho> · Next-cloud client snap fixes
[15:47] <Trevinho>   /EOF
[15:48] <willcooke> thanks Trevinho
[15:48] <willcooke> #topic AOB
[15:48] <willcooke> And we're done pretty much.
[15:48] <willcooke> Anyone got any other B?
[15:49] <willcooke> going once
[15:49] <qengho> Laney: The arch isnt new. What's new is the attempt to build desktop Cr on ARM64. No one else is trying. Upstream doesn't support it either.
[15:49] <willcooke> twice
[15:50] <willcooke> sold
[15:50] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[15:50] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Feb 28 15:50:17 2017 UTC.
[15:50] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2017/ubuntu-desktop.2017-02-28-15.30.moin.txt
[15:50] <willcooke> thanks all
[15:50] <seb128> thanks!
[15:50] <attente> thanks
[15:50] <Laney> qengho: I meant that the failure has been in z-proposed for a while (December?)
[15:50] <willcooke> seb128, attente - sorry to cut you off there, do carry on
[15:50] <Laney> thanks!
[15:51] <seb128> attente, willcooke, I was mostly wondering if we have a list of feature gaps/known issues limitations in the mir backend (due to the backend or mir itself) and where we stand
[15:51] <attente> seb128: status-wise, there are some pretty obvious bugs still. i'm not sure if you tried the ppa or the package in z-proposed
[15:51] <attente> seb128: if you're wondering about big-ticket items, drag and drop is a big one
[15:53] <attente> i'm still working on the migration away from some deprecated mir api, but the branch i have has some regressions and i'm not sure if it's because of gtk or if it's because of mir
[15:53] <Laney> ximion: ok if I upload the new asglib with the ABI fix?
[15:53] <Laney> to exp?
[15:54] <ximion> Laney: to exp is fine
[15:55] <ximion> btw, I recently fixed some corner-case bugs in AppStream - there will be an upload to unstable at some point, with the appropriate FFE
[15:55] <ximion> (definitely something Ubuntu will want too)
[15:56] <Laney> k, requestsync is your friend there ;-)
[15:57] <jbicha> ximion: wine1.6/xenial-proposed still shows up as "Configure Wine" instead of "Wine" in gnome-software :(
[15:57] <jbicha> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/307535788/wine1.6_1%3A1.6.2-0ubuntu14.1_1%3A1.6.2-0ubuntu14.2.diff.gz
[15:59] <jbicha> what's our plan with uploading newer gtk3.22 and content-hub/s390x?
[15:59] <ximion> jbicha: This is weird - the AppStream metadata looks 100% correct: http://appstream.ubuntu.com/data/xenial-proposed/universe/Components-amd64.yml.gz
[16:00] <ximion> jbicha: maybe ensure that you have no leftover metadata in /usr/share/appdata, /usr/share/metainfo and /var/(lib|cache)/app-info
[16:01] <ximion> and if there really is nothing interfering, it's probably a good idea to file a bug against GNOME Software, with a verbose log of GS loading attached
[16:01] <ximion> (killall gnome-software ; gnome-software --verbose)
[16:02] <ximion> could be a bug in GS or appstream-glib#
[16:02] <ximion> or of course in the archive data not being equal to what asgen produced, I haven't tested that yet
[16:06] <attente> jbicha: i'm not sure about the u-a-l/upstart status, but there's a newer upstream release of gtk 3 that has all of the patches from the original upload. so maybe you want to remove them from debian/patches and use that instead
[16:08] <jbicha> attente: yes, that's done in our bzr branch, I'm just wondering whether I should go ahead and upload that now or if we want to disable mir for gtk3/s390x temporarily
[16:11] <attente> jbicha: upload the newer gtk? won't that still have the same problem with content-hub/s390x?
[16:11] <jbicha> yes
[16:12] <jbicha> or I could just keep waiting
[16:13] <attente> yeah, i don't know... i guess it depends on if tedg thinks the u-a-l/upstart stuff might take a while
[16:14] <attente> i think Laney would vote to wait too though
[16:15] <Laney> I would rather wait, but it sucks to keep your work out of the release
[16:17] <attente> i'm fine with waiting. there are other bugs to look at still
[16:18] <Laney> I saw a branch, don't know if it's close to being ready yet
[16:18] <Laney> would be good to know that to help us decide
[16:18] <attente> this one, right? https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/ubuntu-app-launch/rm-rf-upstart/+merge/318039
[16:18] <Laney> sounds right
[16:19]  * Laney was just stalking launchpad
[16:19]  * attente sees lots of red and green chunks
[16:20] <Laney> don't fear change
[16:21] <Laney> change fears YOU in fact
[16:21] <attente> :o
[16:28] <tedg> attente: Laney: My hopes are that those will get finished up today, then review and QA, and out by the end of the week.
[16:29] <tedg> Hand wavy timeline
[16:30] <attente> tedg: nice, thanks :)
[17:18] <Trevinho> Laney: back to that zeitgeist thing, I didn't want to claim that I'm upstream, but that upstream has taken the same solution, so or we change it or we ignore the return value...
[17:20] <Laney> right
[17:20] <Laney> Trevinho: Just do your thing if you want
[17:21] <Trevinho> Laney: we can fix upstream too, eh... it's just matter of solving the problem
[17:22] <Trevinho> Laney: I posted a debdiff with that, but if we also want to move to latest zeitgeist git (just few changes), I can prepare a new one unsing zeitgeist --vacuum instead
[17:22] <Laney> Yeah, one on top of 1.0 would be good
[17:22] <Laney> you can move the maybe-vacuum thing out of a patch to a file in debian/
[17:22] <Laney> that will mamke it easier
[17:25] <Trevinho> Laney: ok, the jbicha debdiff for some reason doesn't seem to apply to me, so I guess I've to redo the things
[17:40] <Trevinho> Laney: also you might want to review https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/unity7-wants-ups/+merge/318517
[17:41] <Laney> Trevinho: nice
[17:41] <Laney> wait
[17:41] <Laney> why not the same for usd?
[18:13] <jbicha> ximion: I did a rm -rf /var/lib/app-info/ so how do I get it to rebuild that directory?
[18:14] <willcooke> pancake time!  Night all
[18:16] <Laney> night!
[18:31] <davmor2> pancake overload
[18:49] <ximion> jbicha: just run sudo appstreamcli refresh