[00:14] <maik_> o sound on my raspi 3 b running with Ubuntu Mate. need help
[00:15] <maik_> i have no sound
[01:08] <mate|81273> hi
[03:52] <ubuntu-mate> trying to decide between i386 or amd64 version of ubuntu mate 16.04 for my acer aspire 1410.  It's 64-bit, only has 2 BiB of ram.  Which should I use?
[04:47] <ubuntu-mate> any advice?
[04:48] <Astro7467> I have a few thoughts;
[04:49] <Astro7467> anecdotal  evidence of the impact of 32-bit vs 64-bit on RAM is that it is minimumal
[04:50] <Astro7467> 32-bit is starting to become the exception rather than the norm for distro support (eg. Debian, Ubuntu & Arch hv all announce plans to drop 32-bit x86)
[04:51] <Astro7467> Unless you are after the absolute best performance, and setting the machine up in a fixed state, 32-bit seems a short term bet
[04:51] <Astro7467> and... they are gone
[06:07] <alkisg> (06:50:13 πμ) Astro7467: 32-bit is starting to become the exception rather than the norm for distro support (eg. Debian, Ubuntu & Arch hv all announce plans to drop 32-bit x86) ==> link? I can't find any debian announcement that it's dropping 686...
[06:08] <alkisg> I found this one, for 586, which is a different story though: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2016/05/msg00001.html
[06:11] <Astro7467> alkisg: fair summary of the situation - LTS versions (eg Jessie & 16.04) will continue to support 32-bit until-end-of-life - but looks like beyond that, no active dev/support
[06:12] <alkisg> Astro7467: stretch and 18.04 will support i386
[06:12] <alkisg> Where did you see the opposite?
[06:15] <Astro7467> Hmm. maybe my brain is getting fired - I I just did a search and cannot find explicit statement of dropping 32-bit - looks like I was to sure and shld have qualified my statement
[06:16] <alkisg> Astro7467: np, thanks for checking, it would affect thousands of installations here
[06:16] <Astro7467> Apologies for any heart-attacks induced O_o
[06:16] <alkisg> Haha
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[15:55] <vlt> Hello. I'm connecting to an Ubuntu 16.04 MATE machine via xrdp. There are some problems with the windows and decorations. 1) I can't use Alt+Tab for more than one othe window. 2) The mouse pointer never changes: no hand or resize arrows. Any idea what might be the problem here?
[15:56] <alkisg> xrdp isn't very well maintained :)
[15:56] <alkisg> x2go is better... :D
[15:57] <alkisg> vlt, why xrdp instead of the other solutions, like x2go, remote x/ltsp etc?
[16:02] <alkisg> Anyway, open an issue on the github xrdp page, they might be able to fix a couple of bugs...
[16:03] <alkisg> https://github.com/neutrinolabs/xrdp/issues
[16:19] <mate|91895> hello everyone!
[16:19] <mate|91895> i need some instructions, please
[16:19] <mate|91895> I am trying to install Mate over a Mate that is already installed
[16:20] <mate|91895> but the button "Install" stays offline (not available for clicking)
[16:20] <mate|91895> anyone would know what can be made to solve this situation, please?
[16:21] <Astro7467> are you installing a deb via gdebi?
[16:22] <mate|91895> no. im installing via USB (made from the Mate ISO)
[16:22] <mate|91895> just to be clear.... I want to resinstalar the Mate OS again (over a Mate that is already installed)
[16:22] <mate|91895> reinstall*
[16:23] <Astro7467> Thx, was about to ask for that clarification
[16:23] <mate|91895> yeah. do u have any clue?
[16:25] <Astro7467> I'm not at a system, so can't boot a usb to look.
[16:25] <mate|91895> alright. thank you.
[16:25] <mate|91895> anyone else, plase?
[16:25] <Astro7467> so you boot, get to live desktop then launch the installer?
[16:34] <mate|91895> yes
[16:34] <mate|91895> thats right
[16:36] <Astro7467> if you go into gparted, can you see the existing hdd/sdd partitions?
[16:36] <mate|91895> i chose the language, than my wifi network the next step i get a screen that ask me if i want to install Mate, but button "start" (or "continue", i cant remember) is not available
[16:36] <mate|91895> yes. there is 1 partition
[16:38] <Astro7467> which version is installed? what version are you installing (live booted into)?
[16:40] <Astro7467> I ask, unless you manually cfg partitions or installed 17.04 alpha, I would expect 2 or more partitions
[16:41] <alkisg> mate|91895: from the menu, check "try ubuntu" instead of "install ubuntu", so that you are in the live session and in irc in the same time
[16:41] <alkisg> At that point, come again for instructions
[16:44] <mate|91895> cool. im gonna do that. wait a minute, please
[16:46] <mate|91895> actually im trying to install regular Ubuntu over than go back to Mate (regular ubuntu is arealdy being installed)
[16:49] <alkisg> It's no different
[16:51] <pon_usb> あ
[16:54] <alkisg> ?
[16:55] <mate|91895> @alkisg what you mean is no different?
[16:59] <alkisg> mate|91895: the installation process is the same whatever desktop environment you select
[17:26] <mate|91895> not worked
[17:27] <mate|91895> ive installed ubuntu then im trying to install mate over and is not working the button
[17:28] <mate|91895> here are the steps: i choose the language, then clickec "Continue". Then i selected "download updates while installting Ubuntu MATE" and "install thrid-party software for graphics and wi-fi hardaware, flash, mp3 and other media"
[17:28] <mate|91895> then i clicked "Continue"
[17:29] <alkisg> Upload a screenshot
[17:29] <alkisg> !paste
[17:29] <alkisg> !screenshots
[21:00] <mate|14565> hello
[21:00] <alkisg> Hello
[21:02] <mate|14565> You can use ubuntu mate as a server solution
[21:03] <mate|14565> hello
[21:04] <alkisg> Yes you can
[21:04] <mate|14565> thanks
[21:04] <mate|14565> the info
[21:36] <vlt> alkisg: We have been running LTSP for more than a decade now. After recent firefox developments (dropping remote X support) we have so poor performance that we had to move to something else. x2go wasn’t as fast as xrdp.
[21:36] <vlt> alkisg: We still use LTSP to boot up the clients that run xfreerdp on SCREEN_07 ;-)
[21:38] <vlt> I’m pretty sure the Alt+Tab problem is not xrdp related. It happens also in “pure” Xvnc sessions.
[21:58] <ubuntu-mate> Hi friends! :)