| inetpro | good mornings | 05:40 |
|---|---|---|
| paddatrapper | morning inetpro, everyone | 06:17 |
| nsnzero | good morning all | 06:49 |
| nsnzero | http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial Release | 06:52 |
| nsnzero | getting 404 error when updating | 06:52 |
| Langjan | G'morning all | 07:05 |
| Langjan | How are you doing Kilos? | 07:05 |
| nsnzero | morning Langjan | 07:06 |
| Langjan | hi nsnzero | 07:06 |
| magespawn | good morning | 07:06 |
| Langjan | nsnzero, you keeping well? | 07:07 |
| Langjan | hi magespawn | 07:07 |
| Kilos | hi Langjan im still kicking ty and how are you? | 07:12 |
| Kilos | morning every one else | 07:12 |
| Kilos | and inetpro | 07:12 |
| Kilos | nsnzero change server to neology | 07:13 |
| Kilos | change repo that is | 07:13 |
| Langjan | I'm fine thanks Kilos just wondered how you're doing health-wise | 07:13 |
| Kilos | still surviving ty | 07:14 |
| Kilos | vit c still trying to do its work | 07:14 |
| Langjan | ok, did you try to kick hard for a few days, like triple or quadruple dose? | 07:15 |
| Kilos | not enough of them | 07:15 |
| Kilos | i got a 1 month supply | 07:15 |
| chesedo | morning inetpro paddatrapper nsnzero Langjan magespawn Kilos | 07:16 |
| Kilos | hi chesedo | 07:16 |
| Langjan | no man just do it, that kick has residual effect | 07:16 |
| Kilos | and magespawn | 07:16 |
| Langjan | hi chesedo | 07:16 |
| Kilos | ok ill take 3 today | 07:16 |
| Langjan | and tomorrow | 07:17 |
| Kilos | ok | 07:17 |
| Kilos | lemme count them | 07:17 |
| Langjan | space them morning noon and evening | 07:17 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:17 |
| Kilos | i been taking morning and evening | 07:17 |
| Langjan | whats the recommended dosage?f | 07:18 |
| Kilos | 1 a day i think i read | 07:18 |
| magespawn | your body cannot store vit c, so anything it does not use will be flushed out. | 07:18 |
| Kilos | 1 or 2 daily or as directed. no-one directed | 07:19 |
| magespawn | i have always found that it is better to space them about 12 apart | 07:19 |
| magespawn | hours | 07:19 |
| Langjan | magespawn, google food state | 07:19 |
| paddatrapper | hi chesedo, Langjan, Kilos | 07:19 |
| Kilos | i got 12 left | 07:20 |
| Langjan | we dont want to store the stuff, just let it do its job | 07:20 |
| Langjan | hi paddatrapper | 07:21 |
| Langjan | OK Kilos you been good to take two, take three or four per day until the stock is gone then see how soon you can get some more | 07:23 |
| Kilos | lol ok will do | 07:24 |
| Kilos | ty for that info oom | 07:24 |
| Kilos | you have a good day | 07:24 |
| Langjan | Good man! Strongs and best wishes | 07:24 |
| Kilos | danke | 07:24 |
| Langjan | you also enjoy the day and have a good meeting | 07:25 |
| Kilos | what meeting | 07:25 |
| Kilos | oh my | 07:25 |
| Kilos | ty for reminding me | 07:25 |
| Langjan | Dont you have irc tonite or tomorrow? | 07:25 |
| thatgraemeguy | morning peoples | 07:25 |
| Kilos | yes | 07:25 |
| Kilos | hi thatgraemeguy | 07:25 |
| Langjan | hi thatgraemeguy | 07:25 |
| Langjan | Ok will leave you at it, go well my friend | 07:26 |
| Kilos | go well sir | 07:26 |
| Kilos | ty | 07:26 |
| Langjan | thks | 07:26 |
| Langjan | Maybe I must go to kde so I can visit more often to sort out probs? lmga | 07:27 |
| Langjan | Bye now | 07:28 |
| andrewlsd | Morning peeps. :-D | 08:36 |
| Maaz | andrewlsd: By the way, nsnzero on freenode told me "tell andrewlsd -> Durban Time : Your Time + 2 , lol" 16 hours, 6 minutes and 18 seconds ago | 08:36 |
| andrewlsd | Thanks Maaz | 08:36 |
| * andrewlsd pops in to visit #ubuntu-us-az | 09:03 | |
| andrewlsd | typing AZ requires real intention. I keep typing ZA.(muscle memory) | 09:03 |
| nsnzero | hi andrewlsd | 09:04 |
| andrewlsd | \o nsnzero | 09:05 |
| nsnzero | cant download ktorrent cos the ubuntu-za repository is malfunctioning | 09:18 |
| * theblazehen wonders why you can't define fallback mirrors for apt | 09:23 | |
| theblazehen | You could probably run a local haproxy / nginx for it | 09:24 |
| andrewlsd | apt-proxy is able to do some URL-equivalence rewriting. but if using https for apt_transport, then not sure if that would still work. | 09:26 |
| andrewlsd | s/apt-proxy/apt-cacher-ng/ | 09:28 |
| nsnzero | theblazehen: i think its for security reasons | 09:31 |
| nsnzero | free book for those who love the command line http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php | 09:31 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero That's what signed packages are for | 09:31 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd yeah, running apt-cacher-ng at home | 09:31 |
| theblazehen | Still slow to install packages :/ due to storage speed. Takes like 8 min to launch a container, install config management, and have it install my stuff | 09:32 |
| theblazehen | Might be due to the fsync's that apt does from what I read | 09:32 |
| nsnzero | theblazehen: aaaaaaaah | 09:33 |
| nsnzero | does apt check signature though ? | 09:33 |
| theblazehen | yeah | 09:33 |
| theblazehen | And it's a bit of a pita to not check it IIRC | 09:33 |
| nsnzero | i am looking for a simple qt based email client - kmail not required | 09:37 |
| theblazehen | Konsole + mutt? /s | 09:39 |
| theblazehen | Konsole + emacs + Gnus? | 09:40 |
| theblazehen | Does anyone even use the systemd remote stuff? https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/System_Administrators_Guide/sect-Managing_Services_with_systemd-Remote.html | 10:26 |
| theblazehen | Apart from possibly journald logging | 10:26 |
| theblazehen | Which is different | 10:26 |
| chesedo | nsnzero: the first four might inspire you -> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?s=email | 10:34 |
| Kilos | guys give me a command to delete a directory off mt desktop please | 10:35 |
| Kilos | rm says its a directory so cant rm it | 10:36 |
| Kilos | my ssd is full so need to make space quick | 10:36 |
| Kilos | i forgot i wasnt on a large drive and made a /home backup on desktop | 10:37 |
| theblazehen | Kilos rm -r | 10:47 |
| Kilos | ty | 10:48 |
| nsnzero | thanks chesedo | 10:50 |
| nsnzero | cant install beause i cant update the repositories - going to reboot | 10:52 |
| nsnzero | no joy - i will try later | 10:56 |
| nsnzero | rr:9 http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease | 10:57 |
| nsnzero | Cannot initiate the connection to za.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2c0f:fe40:8001:10::2). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) [IP: 2c0f:fe40:8001:10::2 80] | 10:57 |
| * chesedo sees nsnzero is lucky enough to be on an IPv6 network | 11:03 | |
| nsnzero | my secret is out | 11:08 |
| magespawn | would it make that much of a difference? | 11:14 |
| nsnzero | magespawn: the ip6 ? | 11:16 |
| magespawn | yup | 11:19 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero use archive.ubuntu.com ? | 11:20 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero What's your ipv6 address? | 11:20 |
| theblazehen | Is it in the fe80 range? | 11:21 |
| nsnzero | yip - starts with fe80 | 11:21 |
| Kilos | nsnzero maybe symmatria is working on it or upgrading | 11:22 |
| Kilos | use neology man | 11:22 |
| Kilos | symmetria | 11:22 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero That's a auto configured address | 11:23 |
| theblazehen | Link local* | 11:23 |
| theblazehen | So you won't get an internet connection | 11:23 |
| theblazehen | Disable ipv6 | 11:23 |
| nsnzero | it my router giving me a local ip6 address -> NAT | 11:24 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero Nope | 11:26 |
| theblazehen | kind of like ipv4's 169.254.0.0/16 | 11:27 |
| theblazehen | LAN only, but you're trying to use it for internet | 11:27 |
| theblazehen | Until we get ipv6 here, gotta disable it :/ | 11:27 |
| * chesedo is under the impression that IPv6 does not use NAT... | 11:29 | |
| theblazehen | chesedo it shouldn't, yes | 11:30 |
| theblazehen | http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/ios-xml/ios/ipaddr_nat/configuration/15-mt/nat-15-mt-book/iadnat-mapt.html#concept_68A1CB818D234BC3B3C883BBEFDDC1AC | 11:33 |
| nsnzero | i have dual addresses ip4 and ip6 | 11:34 |
| theblazehen | https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5902 | 11:35 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero From your isp? Or just in ifconfig / ip a | 11:35 |
| chesedo | nsnzero: so you are tunneling? | 11:35 |
| * chesedo is off to lunch | 11:36 | |
| nsnzero | external is ip4 internal is ip4 and ip6 | 11:36 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero So you use ipv6 in your home network? | 11:36 |
| nsnzero | its also been this way - and i wont touch it as long as it works | 11:37 |
| theblazehen | Well, if you use NDP / RA (not too familiar with ipv6) you wouldn't get a link local address | 11:37 |
| theblazehen | I think? | 11:38 |
| theblazehen | So, default linux would give you a link local ipv6 | 11:38 |
| theblazehen | But for some reason it thinks it has an ipv6 internet connection | 11:38 |
| theblazehen | Browsers normally handle it fine | 11:39 |
| andrewlsd | nsnzero: I came across a simple QT mail client last week. only does Imap. | 11:39 |
| theblazehen | They do A and AAAA lookups, and try both, if ipv6 works, yay, otherwise use ipv4 | 11:39 |
| andrewlsd | nsnzero: http://trojita.flaska.net/ | 11:39 |
| theblazehen | So you should just tell it not to use ipv6 for dns, or just not ipv6 | 11:39 |
| andrewlsd | nsnzero: via http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/install-trojita-email-app-ubuntu | 11:40 |
| andrewlsd | sorry nsnzero I didn't see that theblazehen already sent you that. | 11:41 |
| theblazehen | Or get ipv6 via a tunnel broker if you wanna play with ipv6 I suppose | 11:41 |
| andrewlsd | FYI, DSL in ZA pretty much doesn't support ipv6 | 11:41 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd yeah, waiting on telkom for it | 11:41 |
| theblazehen | DSLAM needs to support it IIRC | 11:41 |
| andrewlsd | so I do this to avoid paying attention to AAA records: `echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/default/disable_ipv6` | 11:42 |
| theblazehen | Sorry, BRAS I think? | 11:42 |
| andrewlsd | theblazehen: IIRC yes. | 11:42 |
| theblazehen | Yeah, BRAS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadband_remote_access_server | 11:42 |
| andrewlsd | alternative version systcl -w net.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6=1 | 11:43 |
| theblazehen | And throw it in /etc/sysctl.d | 11:43 |
| andrewlsd | theblazehen: https://bin.snyman.info/mmmmdrt4 | 11:44 |
| andrewlsd | ... useful for containers. so that the container's bridge doesn't support ipv6, so containers tend not to attempt ipv6. YMMV | 11:45 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd fyi net.ipv6.conf.all.<stuff> | 11:46 |
| andrewlsd | ? theblazehen | 11:49 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd So you don't need it for each interface afaik | 11:50 |
| andrewlsd | Yeah. I was nervous about disabling ipv6 on localhost | 11:50 |
| andrewlsd | apparently it can cause unexpected results. which is why I had _default_ set to 0 | 11:50 |
| theblazehen | What's the worst that can happen? You need to reboot? | 11:50 |
| theblazehen | Says the guy with 60+ days of uptime | 11:51 |
| nsnzero | sorry got busy | 12:12 |
| nsnzero | andrewlsd: thanks | 12:18 |
| nsnzero | i will read up on ip6 later - but it works so i wont interfere | 12:19 |
| chesedo | nsnzero: when you read later, you can use 'ping6 2001:4860:4860::8888' to test if it works (it is the ipv6 equiv of ping 8.8.8.8) | 12:32 |
| nsnzero | will try it chesedo | 12:35 |
| nsnzero | chat later guys - take care | 12:43 |
| andrewlsd | ciao | 13:08 |
| Kilos | sorry guys bad mobile signal here | 16:18 |
| nsnzero | good evening all | 17:04 |
| paddatrapper | evening nsnzero | 17:05 |
| nsnzero | hi paddatrapper | 17:06 |
| paddatrapper | Don't forget meeting in 1.5 hours everyone | 17:14 |
| nsnzero | thanks paddatrapper - i will be on | 17:25 |
| * nsnzero is online | 18:23 | |
| paddatrapper | \o | 18:26 |
| theblazehen | hey nsnzero, paddatrapper | 18:26 |
| paddatrapper | Hey theblazehen | 18:26 |
| nsnzero | hi again paddatrapper . theblazehen | 18:26 |
| nsnzero | quick question - i have /var on a seperate 10G partition is that enough ? | 18:27 |
| theblazehen | nsnzero Yeah, just watch /var/cache and /var/log | 18:28 |
| paddatrapper | nsnzero: Depends what you're doing, but yeah | 18:28 |
| theblazehen | Check your log rotation settings | 18:28 |
| nsnzero | df tells me that 13% is already used and this system is 1 week old | 18:28 |
| theblazehen | Consider using filesystem quotas? | 18:28 |
| nsnzero | i had quotas installed on the other system but wasnt set up | 18:29 |
| paddatrapper | what are you using it for? Mine is 2.4G and it's been going about a year | 18:29 |
| chesedo | evening all | 18:30 |
| paddatrapper | hi chesedo | 18:30 |
| nsnzero | nothing intensive . just web and a few terminal apps | 18:31 |
| nsnzero | hi chesedo | 18:31 |
| chesedo | seems like we may have low attentance tonight | 18:31 |
| paddatrapper | Alrighty, meeting time? | 18:31 |
| paddatrapper | oom Kilos-, you around? | 18:31 |
| chesedo | Kilos- inetpro magespawn smile spinza superfly theblazehen meeting about to start | 18:32 |
| smile | 😀 | 18:32 |
| theblazehen | ack | 18:32 |
| smile | I will be listening | 18:32 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - February 2017 | 18:32 |
| * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles | 18:32 | |
| paddatrapper | Welcome all and thanks for joining in on our monthly meeting | 18:33 |
| paddatrapper | Our bot maaz does the minutes as usual so please introduce yourself to it using `Maaz: I am <firstname lastname>` eg. | 18:33 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: I am Kyle Robbertze | 18:33 |
| Maaz | paddatrapper: Alrighty | 18:33 |
| chesedo | Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht | 18:33 |
| Maaz | chesedo: Righto | 18:33 |
| paddatrapper | The agenda for today is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20170228 | 18:33 |
| paddatrapper | the agenda is short so any last minute addition are welcome | 18:33 |
| nsnzero | Maaz : nasan zero present | 18:33 |
| Maaz | nsnzero: Sorry... | 18:33 |
| theblazehen | Maaz I am Jeandre Le Roux | 18:33 |
| Maaz | theblazehen: Righto | 18:33 |
| nsnzero | Maaz: i am nasan zero | 18:34 |
| Maaz | nsnzero: Sure | 18:34 |
| paddatrapper | Everyone happy with the agenda? | 18:34 |
| chesedo | yip | 18:34 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: agreed All happy with agenda | 18:34 |
| Maaz | Agreed: All happy with agenda | 18:34 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting | 18:34 |
| Maaz | Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting | 18:34 |
| paddatrapper | previous meeting minutes is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20170124 | 18:34 |
| paddatrapper | All good with the previous minutes? | 18:35 |
| nsnzero | yes - from myside | 18:36 |
| chesedo | seems so yes | 18:36 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: agreed All happy with previous minutes | 18:36 |
| Maaz | Agreed: All happy with previous minutes | 18:36 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: topic Plans for 2017 | 18:36 |
| Maaz | Current Topic: Plans for 2017 | 18:36 |
| paddatrapper | Any updates on tareq, magespawn's and Kapanda's membership? | 18:36 |
| chesedo | nope, although I may know where to find tareq now | 18:37 |
| Kilos- | Maaz I am Miles Sharpe | 18:37 |
| Maaz | Kilos-: Righto | 18:37 |
| paddatrapper | chesedo: Haven't seen him | 18:37 |
| Kilos- | sorry im late guys | 18:37 |
| paddatrapper | no problem | 18:38 |
| nsnzero | apology accepted Kilos- | 18:38 |
| chesedo | i see magespawn's wiki is still blank too | 18:38 |
| chesedo | np Kilos- | 18:38 |
| Kilos- | tareg been offline for months | 18:38 |
| Kilos- | remove that paddatrapper | 18:38 |
| paddatrapper | ack | 18:38 |
| Kilos- | Maaz hi | 18:38 |
| * Maaz waves to Kilos- | 18:38 | |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: agreed stop tracking tareg's membership application | 18:39 |
| Maaz | Agreed: stop tracking tareg's membership application | 18:39 |
| paddatrapper | Anyone else need help with membership, launchpad ID, etc? | 18:39 |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| chesedo | nope... | 18:39 |
| Kilos | huh | 18:39 |
| nsnzero | i am good | 18:40 |
| paddatrapper | Any update on Ubuntu for Hope? | 18:40 |
| chesedo | may i propose that we rename this section (Plan 20xx) to Next Steps? | 18:40 |
| paddatrapper | I second that | 18:40 |
| Kilos | nsnzero when you applying | 18:40 |
| chesedo | as in next steps for new users and establishes ones... | 18:40 |
| Kilos | paddatrapper thats your field isnt it | 18:40 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: agreed rename Plan 2017 to Next Steps | 18:40 |
| Maaz | Agreed: rename Plan 2017 to Next Steps | 18:40 |
| Kilos | oh no chesedo | 18:40 |
| nsnzero | applying for Kilos ? | 18:41 |
| chesedo | Kilos: what have i done??? | 18:41 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: what is my field? | 18:41 |
| Kilos | Maaz seen superfly | 18:41 |
| Maaz | Kilos: superfly was last seen 21 hours, 46 minutes and 42 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2017-02-27 20:54:58 GMT], and has been online on freenode since 2017-02-22 03:09:03 GMT | 18:41 |
| Kilos | the ubuntu for hope | 18:41 |
| Kilos | someone here was involved | 18:42 |
| chesedo | oh... | 18:42 |
| * paddatrapper learns a new thing everyday :) | 18:42 | |
| chesedo | we can move it to events? | 18:42 |
| Kilos | it was with karl wasnt it | 18:42 |
| chesedo | it is an (ongoing) event after all... | 18:42 |
| paddatrapper | If no-one knows who/what, maybe we strike it until someone who knows appears | 18:42 |
| Kilos | so much has happened i forget what went where | 18:43 |
| paddatrapper | Yeah or move it to events with Ubuntu education | 18:43 |
| * chesedo kmf and other Prt guys are involved there | 18:43 | |
| Kilos | yes | 18:43 |
| chesedo | although only kmf has done stuff so far... | 18:43 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: agreed Move Ubuntu for Hope to events | 18:43 |
| Maaz | Agreed: Move Ubuntu for Hope to events | 18:43 |
| Kilos | im trying to remember who | 18:43 |
| nsnzero | i am in the education field i can help out there | 18:43 |
| chesedo | Kilos: karl is correct | 18:44 |
| paddatrapper | I work at/attend educational institutions, but we generally use Debian | 18:44 |
| chesedo | the initial talks of it was about general PC edu at schools... | 18:45 |
| nsnzero | ubuntu for hope - can only find a facebook page for it | 18:45 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: agreed nsnzero is willing to help out with Ubuntu for Hope | 18:45 |
| Maaz | Agreed: nsnzero is willing to help out with Ubuntu for Hope | 18:45 |
| Kilos | inetpro ping | 18:45 |
| Kilos | chesedo you sure it wasnt you? | 18:45 |
| Kilos | oh maybe pieter | 18:45 |
| Kilos | forget his nick as well | 18:45 |
| paddatrapper | We probably should put more info out about it? Is it on the trello board? | 18:45 |
| chesedo | nsnzero: https://ubuntuforhope.org/ | 18:46 |
| Kilos | nsnzero teach me not to forget | 18:46 |
| chesedo | nsnzero: https://gitlab.com/ubuntuforhope/ubuntuforhope.org | 18:46 |
| chesedo | Kilos: i am pieter | 18:46 |
| nsnzero | chesedo: thanks | 18:46 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 18:46 |
| chesedo | paddatrapper: good idea and no | 18:46 |
| Kilos | sorry | 18:46 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: agreed paddatrapper to add links to next meeting's agenda for Ubuntu for Hope | 18:47 |
| Maaz | Agreed: paddatrapper to add links to next meeting's agenda for Ubuntu for Hope | 18:47 |
| paddatrapper | and trello board * | 18:47 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: topic Events | 18:47 |
| Maaz | Current Topic: Events | 18:47 |
| inetpro | good morning everyone | 18:47 |
| paddatrapper | rubyfuza was earlier this month | 18:47 |
| paddatrapper | hi inetpro | 18:47 |
| inetpro | Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer | 18:47 |
| Maaz | inetpro: Righto | 18:47 |
| Kilos | lo pro | 18:48 |
| * chesedo will contact kmf as well... maybe we can get a few fb posts and tweets out... | 18:48 | |
| inetpro | Am I on time again? | 18:48 |
| paddatrapper | inetpro: of course :) | 18:48 |
| chesedo | lol | 18:48 |
| Kilos | inetpro apologise for being late | 18:48 |
| Kilos | i did | 18:48 |
| chesedo | paddatrapper: you can add that too ^^ | 18:49 |
| Kilos | makes the young ones feel good to say accepted | 18:49 |
| inetpro | thanks paddatrapper ;-) | 18:49 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: topic Plans for 2017 | 18:49 |
| Maaz | Current Topic: Plans for 2017 | 18:49 |
| inetpro | oops, sorry Oom Kilos | 18:49 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: agreed chesedo to contact kmf and organise a few fb posts | 18:49 |
| Maaz | Agreed: chesedo to contact kmf and organise a few fb posts | 18:49 |
| chesedo | inetpro: see now we are starting all over again :P | 18:49 |
| paddatrapper | Sorry my connection is a little slow at the moment | 18:50 |
| chesedo | np | 18:50 |
| Kilos | hahahaa | 18:50 |
| paddatrapper | Ok, shall we move on? | 18:50 |
| paddatrapper | haha | 18:50 |
| * chesedo just using it to tease inetpro | 18:50 | |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: topic Events | 18:50 |
| Maaz | Current Topic: Events | 18:50 |
| Kilos | no answer from server for 2 mins | 18:50 |
| paddatrapper | any feedback from rubyfuza? | 18:50 |
| Kilos | im lagging bad guys | 18:51 |
| Kilos | hi williamk | 18:51 |
| inetpro | hy lag baie hard? | 18:51 |
| chesedo | nope, only know of unloadable that might have had for the docker event... | 18:52 |
| chesedo | hi williamk | 18:52 |
| paddatrapper | Ok, then the Docker roadshow? | 18:52 |
| nsnzero | off topic does ubuntu for hope have a letterhead or something similar ? | 18:52 |
| williamk | Hi All | 18:52 |
| nsnzero | hi there williamk | 18:52 |
| paddatrapper | hi williamk | 18:52 |
| chesedo | nsnzero: nope, it is very simple | 18:52 |
| inetpro | hi williamk | 18:52 |
| williamk | Maaz: I a William Kinghorn | 18:52 |
| Maaz | williamk: *blink* | 18:52 |
| Kilos | m | 18:53 |
| Kilos | maak reg willie | 18:53 |
| chesedo | nsnzero: you might also want to talk with williamk as he is in the know on education too | 18:53 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: agreed no-one has info on the docker roadshow or rubyfuza | 18:53 |
| Maaz | Agreed: no-one has info on the docker roadshow or rubyfuza | 18:53 |
| chesedo | paddatrapper: seems that unloadable may have forgot... | 18:54 |
| paddatrapper | Lots happening this month though | 18:54 |
| nsnzero | me moves closer to williamk | 18:54 |
| Kilos | he does the books thi k | 18:54 |
| Kilos | thing | 18:54 |
| paddatrapper | scaleconf, devconf and FreeBeerSessions all in the beginning of march | 18:54 |
| williamk | Kilos: still trying | 18:54 |
| paddatrapper | Anyone planning on attending any? | 18:55 |
| Kilos | williamk maybe nsnzero can help | 18:55 |
| chesedo | all are a bit out of my reach | 18:56 |
| paddatrapper | I'm planning on going to the CT FreeBeerSession | 18:56 |
| Kilos | wbb | 18:56 |
| paddatrapper | Should be pretty cool | 18:56 |
| williamk | nsnzero: just joined so don't know what you talking about | 18:56 |
| nsnzero | freebeer i am guessing since its open source you get the recipe and make it yourself ? | 18:56 |
| * chesedo rofl | 18:57 | |
| paddatrapper | nsnzero: that would be libre beer sessions :) | 18:57 |
| chesedo | then the instruments also has to be open source i guess | 18:57 |
| inetpro | paddatrapper: I think it was unlaudable who was talking about docker | 18:57 |
| paddatrapper | inetpro: ack | 18:57 |
| nsnzero | williamk: sorry i am alitle lost also - we chat after the meeting | 18:58 |
| paddatrapper | scaleconf was looking for helpers, but I think they're now sorted | 18:58 |
| williamk | For you beer lovers, in the repos - Brewtarget and qbrew | 18:59 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: agreed paddatrapper is attending the free beer sessions CT | 18:59 |
| Maaz | Agreed: paddatrapper is attending the free beer sessions CT | 18:59 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: agreed scaleconf - 9-10 March, Johannesburg; devconf - 9 March, Johannesburg; FreeBeerSessions - 2 March, Cape Town/Johannesburg | 19:00 |
| Maaz | Agreed: scaleconf - 9-10 March, Johannesburg; devconf - 9 March, Johannesburg; FreeBeerSessions - 2 March, Cape Town/Johannesburg | 19:00 |
| paddatrapper | any other events coming up? | 19:00 |
| chesedo | nope | 19:01 |
| chesedo | afaik | 19:01 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: topic Miscellaneous | 19:01 |
| Maaz | Current Topic: Miscellaneous | 19:01 |
| Kilos | williamk they were talking about education stuff like ubuntu for hope and then you arrived just in time | 19:01 |
| paddatrapper | this may be a topic for nsnzero, williamk: Ubuntu education project | 19:01 |
| inetpro | chesedo: any developments after your discussion with superfly yesterday? | 19:01 |
| inetpro | re the bots with news etc | 19:02 |
| Kilos | yes where are the new bots paddatrapper | 19:02 |
| chesedo | inetpro: about trying to split tasks and job listings? | 19:02 |
| * chesedo almost forgot | 19:02 | |
| Kilos | you guys are slow you know | 19:02 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: new bots? I just fix Maaz | 19:03 |
| paddatrapper | Is there a wiki-page/trello item that we can track progress on? | 19:03 |
| Kilos | fly rather goes and plays in the snow | 19:03 |
| * paddatrapper hasn't looked at the trello board lately | 19:03 | |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: and sick kids | 19:03 |
| chesedo | paddatrapper: may i have a (late) section after this one? | 19:03 |
| paddatrapper | chesedo: cool | 19:04 |
| Kilos | Maaz ddg weather | 19:04 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Excuse me? | 19:04 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: next release of ibid | 19:04 |
| Kilos | the new ibids man | 19:04 |
| chesedo | williamk: what is your book about? | 19:04 |
| Kilos | its about supplying education books to needy kids like me | 19:05 |
| chesedo | which subject? | 19:06 |
| chesedo | and how is it going? | 19:06 |
| williamk | chesedo: Wanting to start Documentation Project, Not only for FLOSS, but also creating Textbooks for schools, only using FLOSS software | 19:06 |
| williamk | Subjects wii | 19:07 |
| Kilos | williamk didnt you have some links on the project | 19:07 |
| paddatrapper | I heard a KDE developer talk about an open source set of textbooks they were developing, but I'm struggling to find a link | 19:07 |
| chesedo | williamk: if i remember correctly, the issue last time was having a web space to co-ordinate things? | 19:08 |
| paddatrapper | found it: https://www.wikitolearn.org/ | 19:08 |
| williamk | Subjects will be dependate on who wants to write what, and when teachers join | 19:08 |
| chesedo | wow, some site that paddatrapper | 19:08 |
| paddatrapper | williamk: similar to the Shuttleworth Foundation's (I think) Maths and Science textbooks from a few years back? | 19:09 |
| nsnzero | little info here - seems like the DOE likes to change textbooks every year - i have to get new books with the updates -costs a small fortune | 19:09 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: wikiToLearn is https://www.wikitolearn.org/ | 19:09 |
| Maaz | paddatrapper: Got it | 19:09 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: KDE education project is also https://www.wikitolearn.org/ | 19:10 |
| Maaz | paddatrapper: I'll remember that | 19:10 |
| williamk | Something more like http://flossmanuals.net/ | 19:10 |
| Kilos | 2 min lag here guys | 19:10 |
| nsnzero | thutong.doe.gov.za | 19:11 |
| chesedo | williamk: will it be for sa schools (or aimed at)? | 19:11 |
| chesedo | nsnzero: that site does not exist | 19:12 |
| williamk | Where we have a book creation colloborative app , and a website where people can download to the finnished books | 19:12 |
| nsnzero | http://www.thutong.doe.gov.za/ | 19:12 |
| williamk | chesedo: Yes for SA school, but others can adapt to their needs | 19:13 |
| chesedo | oh boy, that thing does not even have a dns record for when the www is missing | 19:13 |
| chesedo | williamk: so which next step is needed? | 19:14 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: agreed williamk wants to start a documentation project, Not only for FLOSS, but also creating Textbooks for schools, only using FLOSS software | 19:14 |
| Maaz | Agreed: williamk wants to start a documentation project, Not only for FLOSS, but also creating Textbooks for schools, only using FLOSS software | 19:14 |
| superfly | Sorry I missed the meeting, it's in the middle of my morning | 19:15 |
| nsnzero | morning superfly | 19:15 |
| paddatrapper | np superfly, morning | 19:15 |
| superfly | or are we still in it? | 19:15 |
| inetpro | yep | 19:16 |
| superfly | Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman | 19:16 |
| Maaz | superfly: Okay | 19:16 |
| nsnzero | if i have some time i will work on leads to help out williamk | 19:16 |
| chesedo | np superfly, you are just in time to further yesterday's discussion... we are almost there | 19:16 |
| paddatrapper | superfly: talking about Ubuntu education projects | 19:16 |
| paddatrapper | alright, chesedo you have the floor | 19:16 |
| chesedo | thanks paddatrapper | 19:17 |
| chesedo | yesterday superfly shared the structure of their meetings over there and it sparked 3 ideas... | 19:17 |
| chesedo | to have a news and/or jobs listings sections? | 19:18 |
| chesedo | to divide these meeting sections to peers? | 19:18 |
| inetpro | bye zaki | 19:19 |
| nsnzero | like sub committees to report back ? | 19:19 |
| chesedo | like blaze always seems to be in the know on the latest stuff if he would like to share the highlights... | 19:19 |
| * Kilos pricks ears | 19:19 | |
| theblazehen | chesedo sounds good | 19:20 |
| chesedo | and hilton (from sulug) has posted a lot of jobs listing in the past... and then there is also the jobs listings at each's own works that others my find interesting... | 19:20 |
| paddatrapper | chesedo: and the third thing? | 19:21 |
| williamk | DBE has the National Curriculum Statement http://www.education.gov.za/Curriculum/CurriculumAssessmentPolicyStatements(CAPS)/CAPSFET.aspx | 19:21 |
| chesedo | paddatrapper: i went blank :D | 19:21 |
| williamk | We have to put that into manuals | 19:21 |
| paddatrapper | chesedo: lol :) | 19:21 |
| Kilos | old age | 19:22 |
| inetpro | 1. news, 2. jobs and 3. blank | 19:22 |
| * Kilos feels good | 19:22 | |
| paddatrapper | I like the job listings, I'm not sure how the peers idea would work in practice | 19:22 |
| inetpro | next time fill in the blank | 19:23 |
| chesedo | either point one was two things, or there was another... | 19:23 |
| paddatrapper | news is also good :) | 19:23 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 19:24 |
| chesedo | and sounds like theblazehen is up to it... | 19:24 |
| inetpro | superfly: help | 19:24 |
| nsnzero | ubuntu 17 beta 1 is released | 19:24 |
| superfly | inetpro: I have no idea, it was chesedo's ideas, I just shared the logs from the most recent AZLoCo meeting,. | 19:24 |
| superfly | chesedo: I also mentioned weekly meetings, but I think that's a bit much for Ubuntu-ZA | 19:24 |
| chesedo | paddatrapper: i can try to reach hilton to discuss his input (or find his methods)... | 19:25 |
| superfly | post on the mailing list? | 19:25 |
| paddatrapper | chesedo: Ok, but in principle I'm game | 19:25 |
| magespawn | good night all | 19:25 |
| chesedo | superfly: things like news and the positions can became stale in a month so we may have to see about that | 19:26 |
| nsnzero | night magespawn | 19:26 |
| paddatrapper | Maybe they should be plugins/knowledge we add to Maaz? | 19:26 |
| superfly | maybe a mini meeting once a week and a maxi meeting once a month? irrunno | 19:26 |
| superfly | that's a lot of work | 19:27 |
| inetpro | could work | 19:27 |
| chesedo | paddatrapper: the peers idea is like say has a collection of news (that get shared with him) and some else the positions... | 19:27 |
| paddatrapper | chesedo: ah ok | 19:27 |
| chesedo | then they would quickly list them (like events) in the meeting and we move on... | 19:27 |
| Kilos | thanks for joining us superfly | 19:28 |
| chesedo | theblazehen: are you up for it? | 19:28 |
| Kilos | we know you yanks are rather busy | 19:28 |
| paddatrapper | Ok shall we try it out next month and see how it goes? or try a mini weekly meeting? | 19:28 |
| theblazehen | chesedo: yeah | 19:29 |
| Kilos | wb williamk | 19:29 |
| inetpro | someone would have to go through the list of news and reduce it to just the top 5 or so | 19:29 |
| chesedo | maybe biweekly first, to test it and keep the load small | 19:29 |
| chesedo | inetpro: correct | 19:29 |
| paddatrapper | sounds good, though my attendance in the evening for the next while is going to be spotty | 19:30 |
| superfly | good idea, chesedo | 19:30 |
| williamk | Kilos : still here | 19:30 |
| Kilos | :D | 19:30 |
| chesedo | so the mini meeting will be about the news, positions and maybe education if we can start it | 19:30 |
| chesedo | ? | 19:30 |
| paddatrapper | what day of the week? | 19:30 |
| paddatrapper | I suggest a Wednesday or Monday | 19:31 |
| chesedo | i have no idea... guess there is a reason why it is Tuesdays? | 19:31 |
| chesedo | Kilos inetpro superfly nsnzero ^^ | 19:31 |
| inetpro | tough one | 19:32 |
| superfly | irunno | 19:32 |
| chesedo | williamk your input too ^^ | 19:32 |
| Kilos | was to accomodate maia | 19:32 |
| Kilos | anyday ok with me if i can stay awake | 19:32 |
| inetpro | book the meeting and have it with those who can make it | 19:32 |
| chesedo | paddatrapper: seems like your call | 19:32 |
| * chesedo ok with both | 19:33 | |
| paddatrapper | Wednesday then? Mondays seem to be a little slow | 19:33 |
| * theblazehen is good with any day | 19:33 | |
| chesedo | paddatrapper: +1 | 19:33 |
| Kilos | check mailing list as well and see if you can get feedack form some new guys | 19:33 |
| inetpro | ya Mondays can be rough | 19:33 |
| Kilos | s/form/from | 19:33 |
| williamk | Kilos : start the meet at 7:30 or 8 | 19:34 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: agreed biweekly mini meeting about the news, positions and maybe education on Wednesdays | 19:34 |
| Maaz | Agreed: biweekly mini meeting about the news, positions and maybe education on Wednesdays | 19:34 |
| nsnzero | guys i am calling it a night - i will catch up tomorrow | 19:34 |
| nsnzero | good night all | 19:34 |
| chesedo | night nsnzero | 19:34 |
| Kilos | williamk the family gues prefer 8 or 8.30 | 19:34 |
| Kilos | im easy | 19:34 |
| inetpro | peeps with kids need family time | 19:34 |
| williamk | nsnzero : do you still want to talk | 19:34 |
| paddatrapper | I'd go with 8:30, to keep it consistant | 19:35 |
| chesedo | right | 19:35 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: agreed Mini meeting start at 20:30 SAST | 19:35 |
| Maaz | Agreed: Mini meeting start at 20:30 SAST | 19:35 |
| Kilos | 2 weeks time | 19:35 |
| chesedo | paddatrapper: and theblazehen to handle the news section | 19:35 |
| Kilos | get list feedback | 19:36 |
| chesedo | Kilos: right | 19:36 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: agreed Starting in two weeks (14 March) theblazehen will handle the news | 19:36 |
| Maaz | Agreed: Starting in two weeks (14 March) theblazehen will handle the news | 19:36 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: topic Next meeting | 19:36 |
| Maaz | Current Topic: Next meeting | 19:36 |
| chesedo | paddatrapper: that would be the 15th (Wednesday) | 19:37 |
| paddatrapper | The next full meeting is 28 March 2017 @ 20:30 | 19:37 |
| paddatrapper | chesedo: thanks | 19:37 |
| chesedo | +1 | 19:37 |
| inetpro | +1 | 19:37 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: agreed mini meeting 15 March, not 14 march | 19:37 |
| Maaz | Agreed: mini meeting 15 March, not 14 march | 19:37 |
| Kilos | thanks for attending everyone and well done paddatrapper | 19:37 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: agreed Next meeting is 28 March 2017 @ 20:30 | 19:37 |
| Maaz | Agreed: Next meeting is 28 March 2017 @ 20:30 | 19:37 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting | 19:38 |
| Maaz | Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting | 19:38 |
| williamk | Thanks all | 19:38 |
| inetpro | so we list the mini meetings in the topic as well? | 19:38 |
| paddatrapper | I will probably not be here next month, so who wants to chair? | 19:38 |
| * chesedo thinks paddatrapper did an excelent job | 19:38 | |
| Kilos | yip | 19:38 |
| chesedo | i will be here if no one else is | 19:38 |
| Kilos | you on next meet chesedo | 19:38 |
| chesedo | inetpro: you want another wack? | 19:39 |
| Kilos | chesedo +1 | 19:39 |
| inetpro | +1 for chesedo | 19:39 |
| Kilos | haha | 19:39 |
| inetpro | my days are packed | 19:39 |
| paddatrapper | lol | 19:39 |
| chesedo | np inetpro | 19:40 |
| Kilos | and im busy | 19:40 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: agreed chesedo to chair next meeting | 19:40 |
| Maaz | Agreed: chesedo to chair next meeting | 19:40 |
| Kilos | im getting like everyone else now | 19:40 |
| paddatrapper | Thanks everyone for coming | 19:40 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: end meeting | 19:40 |
| Maaz | Meeting Ended | 19:40 |
| Maaz | Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-02-28-18-32-52.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-02-28-18-32-52.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2017-02-28-18-32-52.html | 19:40 |
| Kilos | even when sleeping they busy | 19:40 |
| inetpro | thanks paddatrapper | 19:40 |
| Kilos | danke paddatrapper | 19:40 |
| superfly | By the way, apparently Makro now sells servers: https://www.makro.co.za/computing-and-mobile/servers-EAG/pg1?CategoryBusinessKeys=EAG&Division=General%20Merchandise&Category4=Desktops%20and%20Notebooks&Category3=Servers | 19:40 |
| chesedo | and thank you paddatrapper for a great job | 19:40 |
| paddatrapper | thanks guys, anytime | 19:40 |
| Kilos | yes paddatrapper well done lad | 19:40 |
| chesedo | they also sell hard drives for over R150k | 19:41 |
| Kilos | those feet dont affect you much | 19:41 |
| inetpro | anyone importing mobile phones? | 19:41 |
| paddatrapper | Kilos: lol, just need my hands to type! | 19:41 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:41 |
| * chesedo would like to import and aquarius in the future, but not currently | 19:41 | |
| chesedo | a/and/an/ | 19:42 |
| * inetpro wants a cheap Samsung A5 2017 | 19:42 | |
| inetpro | or better | 19:42 |
| superfly | inetpro: anything that's not a Samsung is better | 19:43 |
| inetpro | ai! | 19:43 |
| Kilos | thank you guys , and sorry i missed so many meetings | 19:43 |
| paddatrapper | samsung is solid, they just keep going | 19:43 |
| chesedo | williamk: how did it go with the server that you wanted to setup last year? | 19:43 |
| superfly | paddatrapper: not in my experience. LG does a better job | 19:43 |
| inetpro | thanks paddatrapper, I agree with you there | 19:44 |
| paddatrapper | superfly: I still have a S2 that is going strong (just needs a new battery) | 19:44 |
| superfly | paddatrapper: my S3 was a complete fail | 19:44 |
| superfly | My LG G2 is still going strong | 19:45 |
| paddatrapper | S3 was dodgy, yeah... | 19:45 |
| inetpro | my son still using my old Note 2 from 6 years ago | 19:45 |
| paddatrapper | I also still have a Note 2 - my dad is currently using it | 19:45 |
| inetpro | ok maybe not 6, but 5 years | 19:46 |
| inetpro | almost | 19:47 |
| williamk | Chesedo: did not work out, still trying | 19:47 |
| chesedo | williamk: what was the software you tried again? | 19:47 |
| Kilos | night guys . sleep tight | 19:49 |
| williamk | Booktype, I eventually got it working, but on Debian, but could not create PDFs | 19:49 |
| williamk | Night Kilos | 19:50 |
| williamk | Pressbooks ( WordPress plugin ) has a pay plugin for creating PDFs, but mow has a free plugin based on mPDF, so am going to try that | 19:52 |
| chesedo | williamk: ah right... i can try to see if i can get it up on my server during the week | 19:53 |
| williamk | Also going to try coko.foundation Pubsweet : https://coko.foundation/new-pubsweet-release/ | 19:54 |
| chesedo | williamk: what are the main features you are looking for? | 19:54 |
| paddatrapper | williamk: I'm a little hestant about booktype, mainly because I distrust sourcefabric. They abandoned their FLOSS radio scheduling software Airtime in favour of their hosted propriatary version. They can quite easily do the same here... | 19:55 |
| paddatrapper | What about LaTeX files in git? | 19:55 |
| paddatrapper | All depends what you are looking for... | 19:58 |
| paddatrapper | alright I'm off. Night everyone | 19:58 |
| paddatrapper | Maaz: FLOSS Manuals is http://flossmanuals.net/ | 19:58 |
| Maaz | paddatrapper: Got it | 19:58 |
| williamk | chesedo: create manuals for FLOSS software, textbooks for schools, FLOSS manuals for ECDL/ICDL Certification using FLOSS, created with FLOSS Software | 19:59 |
| inetpro | good night everybody | 19:59 |
| williamk | ECDL/ICDL Certification : eg. Using LibreOffice instead of MS Office | 20:00 |
| chesedo | williamk: by features i mean... allow collaboration... export to pdf... | 20:00 |
| chesedo | for the app to have that is... | 20:01 |
| williamk | Yes collaboration | 20:01 |
| williamk | Pubsweet is all about creating books/whatever collaboratively | 20:02 |
| chesedo | ok so far i have: it should be floss, have collaboration and support pdf and possible postscript for the textbook creation | 20:02 |
| chesedo | it seems nice too | 20:03 |
| williamk | https://coko.foundation/facilitation/ | 20:03 |
| chesedo | williamk: i might try it first and will let you know | 20:06 |
| williamk | Chesedo : Thanks, am also going to try, Will be using MariaDB with PressBooks | 20:07 |
| williamk | Also possibly EPUB format | 20:09 |
| chesedo | ok, 5 items... got it | 20:09 |
| chesedo | i am off to bed... night guys | 20:11 |
| williamk | Night chesedo, all | 20:12 |
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