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crendelZambzz: sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm unity8-desktop-session00:00
Zambzzthanks 😀00:00
Bashing-omazizLIGHT: :) of course . Now if ya can just get stable on a default install .00:00
causativeI've been having a problem where my game repeatedly freezes for a second at a time, and I've noticed that each time this happens, my CPU0 usage drops to zero for a brief period... so maybe there is something wrong with CPU0, is t here any way to disable it?  if I try echo 0 | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/online I get permission denied (I can disable the other 7 CPUs)00:01
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causativeor I'd like to switch some other CPU to CPU000:01
FoeHammeredoscar mike golf i learned so much today thank y'all00:01
nacccausative: if you really have an issue with cpu 0, that measn you probalby have a hardware issue.00:01
nacccausative: most likely, given that you're playing a game on it, cpu 0 is really thread 0 or so00:02
causativenacc, I have disabled the other 7 CPUs, andI'm watching my system monitor performance widget00:02
causativeso it's def CPU 000:02
causativealso this is not just this one application, I have had similar freezes at other times, this is just when it's more of a problem00:03
nacccausative: "CPU" is just the Linux terminology, it's really a logical thing, not a physical thing.00:03
nacccausative: it seems incredibly unikely that only your thread 0 would have physical issues and none of the others00:04
GongojQuestion. In bash is it possible to inject a keystroke through a script to automatically accept a license?00:04
causativeit's a single threaded program00:04
azizLIGHTBashing-om: well i think im stable now. the whole reason im trying to get to HWE 4.4 was xbox one controller support. but im hearing from my other hcannels that i should just a newer version of xpad00:04
azizLIGHTive been doing this all wrong eh00:04
azizLIGHTand causing my self and all of you such headaches00:05
nacccausative: do you understand cpu topology?00:05
causativenacc, are you telling me that /proc/cpuinfo is purely logical and has no correspondence to my hardware, even t hough it lists 8 CPUs and that is my hardware?00:05
nacccausative: when i said thread 0 it had nothing to do with your software threads00:05
naccGongoj: you could use expect00:05
naccGongoj: or `yes`00:05
Bashing-omazizLIGHT: All a process of learning . there is the care and feeding of your 'buntu :P00:05
GongojFor instance the command 'sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ext-pack' needs me to use the keys tab spacebar spacebar to accept agreement. Can this automated?00:05
naccGongoj: you don't want to automate, genearlly, accepting agreements00:06
nacccausative: no, i am saying that if /proc/cpuinfo says you ahve 8 cpus, it means you ahve 8 logical cpus. It does not mean you physically have 8 cpus. Which means that even if you did disable logical CPU 0, that if your hardware is that broken, there's probably something else wrong00:06
causativenacc, I am not aware of an alternate meaning of thread than software threads, and googling doesn't turn up much, can you give me a link?00:06
Gongoji just want to automate my virtualbox installation as much as possible.00:07
nacccausative: SMT?00:07
nacccausative: Symmetric Multi-Threading00:07
UserUSGonoj: Yes, you can write a simple script and have it execute at a certain time00:07
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causativenacc, there may be something wrong, I did get some weird CPU pipeline errors some months ago though they haven't returned00:08
GongojFrom the example I gave I don't know how to automate the accepting of the license.00:08
causativebut it seems it might be possible the error is just in one specific core00:08
causativeand I want to disable that core and see if it helps00:08
causativeexcept I'm not able to disable cpu0, just the others00:09
UserUScausative: that will cause a logical failure, it will get bad blocks00:09
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nacccausative: i don't think you understand how computer hardware works, or the likelihood of only one core being bad, but let me look00:10
naccUserUS: what? cores have nothing to do with blocks00:10
nacccausative: you oculd isolcpus=0 and see if stuff just doesn't get scheduled on logical cpu 000:11
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UserUSnacc: it will lead to that with the miswrites if all but one logical unit is left00:11
naccUserUS: what are you talking about?00:11
naccUserUS: 'all but one logical unit'?00:11
UserUSnacc: so if he disable the other 700:12
nacccausative: alternatively, i think you need to pass 'cpu0_hotplug=1'00:12
Zambzzcredel, well that didn't work 😢00:12
causativeI would enable one of the other 7 before disabling 000:12
Zambzzcrendel*00:12
nacccausative: generally, cpu0 isn't hotpluggable, because there are lots of assumptions00:12
naccUserUS: you can't disable all your cpus00:12
nacccausative: --^00:12
nacccausative: so you don't need to worry abou tthat00:12
UserUSnacc: oh well good00:12
Alessandro_Hello. I'm having some issues using MariaDB on Ubuntu 16.04. I install it with "apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client". When I run "mysql -uroot", however, I get "Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'". I then run mysql_safe_installation and set a password for the root user, and I still get the same error over and over again when logging in with "mysql -uroot -p" and typing the correct password. any hint?00:13
naccUserUS: which is why i asked what you were talkinga bout. Because if you could, then where you would 'you' (the shell you're running) be running?00:13
UserUSnacc: exactly00:13
GongojUgh okay thanks00:13
naccUserUS: what does that at all ahve to do with bad blocks?00:13
nacccausative: without cpu0, you won't be able to suspend/resume, some machines also won't poweroff wihtout it00:14
causativenacc, pardon me if this is a silly question, is there any way to direct it so that CPU 0 is still CPU 0, but the game's thread is forced to run on a different CPU?00:14
nacccausative: yes00:14
Zambzzooo crendel for some reason by entering recovery mode and then exiting it got me bk to login and now i see stuff00:14
nacccausative: also, i think the ubuntu kernel does not set CONFIG_BOOTPARAM_HOTPLUG_CPU0 so it won't matter, you still can't hotplug it :)00:14
UserUSnacc: well, if somehow you could theoretically stay connected after disabling them, the drive could fail00:14
naccUserUS: that is, as far as I can tell, gibberish00:15
Zambzzmy problem is solved, thanks for the help guys00:15
naccUserUS: and not useful in a support channel00:15
UserUSnacc: you asked what I meant00:15
nacccausative: taskset00:15
naccUserUS: and i think what you are saying you meant is 'if you could run a process without any cpus online, you could get bad blocks'. Which is ... gibberish.00:16
zach2825hello, does anybody here use LXC?00:16
nacczach2825: LXD, but I have also used LXC (there is also #lxcontainers)00:16
zach2825lxc network used to be a command but now its gone in version 2.0.900:16
UserUSnacc: to suggest that a memory failure could happen?00:16
zach2825and i can't figure out how to do networking stuff00:17
nacczach2825: lxc != lxd00:17
crendelZambzz: no problem, good luck :)00:17
Alessandro_Hello. I'm having some issues using MariaDB on Ubuntu 16.04. I install it with "apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client". When I run "mysql -uroot", however, I get "Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'". I then run mysql_safe_installation and set a password for the root user, and I still get the same error over and over again when logging in with "mysql -uroot -p" and typing the correct password. any hint?00:17
naccAlessandro_: may want to ask in #ubuntu-server00:18
Alessandro_nacc thanks00:18
naccUserUS: fine, 'if you could run a process without any cpus online, you could see a memory failure'. a) vacuously true and b) it doesn't make any sense. Please drop it.00:18
UserUSnacc: I will. But you should do some research.00:21
causativethanks nacc  i tried taskset, no improvement, guess i need to look elsewhere, try isolcpus=0, or give up00:25
nacccausative: with taskset did you isolate it to not cpu 0? did cpu 0 still get used?00:26
causativecommand was taskset -p fe 5856, previously it was ff00:27
causativeI don't know how to check if cpu 0 is still getting used00:27
nacccausative: taskset -p pid00:27
nacccausative: how were you checking if it was getting used before??00:27
causativethat's how i checked00:27
causativethought you meant something else00:27
causativeyes, it's fe now00:28
nacccausative: but how did you check before?00:28
causativetaskset -p 585600:28
causativebefore you talked to me i turned all the other CPUs off so what I saw in the system monitor widget had to be on CPU000:28
nacccausative: no, i meant earlier you saw that cpu 0 was dropping off or whatever00:29
nacccausative: also, you did turn some other cpus back on, right?00:29
zeroraxanyone else using mariadb have a problem with the current version in the repo hanging right after you start it?00:29
causativeyeah i turned them all back on00:29
zerorax*16.0400:29
Grasdorvoo00:29
causativespecifically the monitor is called indicator-multiload00:30
nacccausative: the thing is if cpu0 is glitchy, then anything runnng on cpu0 will lead to issues00:31
nacccausative: so it doesn't really make sense to just try and taskset the one task you care about, other stuff is running too00:31
causativeyou think I should try tasksetting all processes to fe?00:32
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nacccausative: you won't be able to probably00:33
nacccausative: isolcpus is probably easier to do00:33
betabotHi, I accidentally reformatted my EFI boot partition (/dev/sda1). Is there any way to reinstall grub? grub-install complains that it can't find the EFI directory...00:45
pavlosbetabot, http://askubuntu.com/questions/831216/reinstalling-grub2-efi-partition00:50
causativenacc, I had a crash, did you say anything after I said "yeah I turned them all back on"?00:52
nacccausative: it's probably insufficient to just taskset your game00:52
nacccausative: as anything running on cpu0 may cause the issue00:52
betabotpavlos: great, thanks. Moment of truth... :P00:53
nacccausative: i would try isolcpus00:53
causativeok00:53
causativethanks for your help I'll try it later00:53
arturoHey y'all01:02
arturoAnyone alive?01:02
saber__hi01:07
saber__any one here ?01:07
cfhowletttopic is ubuntu support,  ask your suppport questions, saber01:07
saber__i want to install dovecot01:07
saber__but i have this error01:08
saber__dpkg: error processing dovecot-imapd (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  dovecot-imapd E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)01:08
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uubhi01:54
AurorasauraI am having the hardest time finding info on how to make sdb,sdc,sdd all one big volume on Ubuntu server no gui.01:55
naccAurorasaura: do you mean software RAID?01:55
naccAurorasaura: mdadm is what you want01:55
uubrsync works with plain IP addreses - but not with hostnames (that are defined in /etc/hosts) :(01:56
AurorasauraKinda but all the drives are different sizes01:56
uubI first have to resolve the hostname by myself and replace it with its IP address in a rsync command to make it actually work01:56
uubwhy?01:56
naccAurorasaura: oh then you want LVM01:56
AurorasauraI am trying that lol but the documentation is so hard to follow01:56
naccuub: that's not generally true, i don't think01:56
OerHeksnacc + 1 LVM01:56
OerHekspretty easy example, even *i* can do it >>> https://www.howtogeek.com/211937/how-to-use-lvm-on-ubuntu-for-easy-partition-resizing-and-snapshots/01:58
OerHeks* with gui01:58
naccuub: rsync probably relies on the system resolver, so if `nslookup` can't resolve a hostname you provide, rsync won't either01:58
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uubnacc: indeed, just found a strange vagrant-hostmanager vs dnsmasq that works without it :O02:00
Aurorasauraty nacc .02:03
Frank22why is emerson such a queen that abuses ops...02:12
Frank22queenie that is a meanie02:12
BlueLobsterpoop02:12
BlueLobsterbutts02:12
ikoniaplease stop02:12
Frank22freenode has some real fag ops02:12
Frank22EMERSON02:13
Frank22fag op02:13
Frank22little dick02:13
gnomethrowerthanks ikonia02:20
Aurorasauranacc, Thank you! Finally figured it out! :D02:28
texlaUpon opening 16.04.1 it goes to grub menu there i chose ubuntu on sda6 the next window has 20 kernel and kernel recovery entries I want to remove these entries down to the current and 1 old kernel02:28
OerHekstexla, autoremove would do that, and keep your current and previous kernel02:29
OerHekssudo apt autoremove02:29
texlaOerHeks,  tried that command it only removed entries from synaptic02:30
OerHekstexla is you are still on 16.04.1, please upgrade with sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade # to go to 16.04.202:31
OerHeksno, not only packages, but also grub is regenerated... that takes a while02:31
CelestiaIm curius. i need to find a i686 version of ubuntu, where may i find such an file?02:31
OerHeksCelestia, use the i386 version02:31
CelestiaOerHerks, i cant find it02:32
OerHeksdirect link > http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04.2-desktop-i386.iso02:32
Celestiathank you02:32
Celestiai need to set it up on my grandmothers old HP Pavilion02:33
texlaOerHeks, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.02:37
OerHekstexla, oke, then you are on 16.04.2 already > hostnamectl status02:37
OerHeksOperating System: Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS02:38
OerHeks            Kernel: Linux 4.4.0-64-generic02:38
texlaOerHeks, 4.4.0-31-generic02:41
OerHeksoh, you are one kernel behind, reboot perhaps?02:42
texlaOerHeks, Still 31 the first entry on grub 2.02 9ubuntu 1.1202:49
OerHekstexla, odd ..02:54
barkintoshbye02:56
BHSPiMonkeyUsing Ubuntu 16.04 (standard flavor with Unity) and my screen never auto-locks, despite my "Brightness & Lock" settings having Lock "ON" and set to "Lock screen after: 1 minute"03:00
BHSPiMonkey(Correction: 16.10)03:01
BHSPiMonkeyI've tried turning Lock off and back on, and changing the lock timeout to 30 seconds, and it still never locks on its own. I'm monitoring xinput events and nothing is happening that would reset the idle timer. How can I debug this?03:01
BHSPiMonkeyI'm able to manually lock via the power menu and the keyboard shortcut; it's only the automatic timer that isn't working. I'm not sure how Unity determines how long I've been "idle" (so that I can monitor that myself or add some logging)03:03
lotuspsychjeBHSPiMonkey: system up to date to latest? syslog/dmesg showing usefull errors?03:04
backboxany one from E-G-Y-P-T HERE03:05
aavrugHello evryone!03:05
backboxHI03:05
OerHeksBHSPiMonkey, install dconf, and look in org.gnome.desktop.screensaver + org.gnome.desktop.session ?03:06
aavrugI have upgraded Ubuntu from 14.04 to 16.04 and restarted it. But now my system is not booting getting error Failed to start Load Kernel Modules.03:06
aavrugAlso getting usb 1-6: device descriptor read/64, error 11003:07
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E-G-Y-P-THI ALL03:07
BHSPiMonkeylotuspsychje: yes, and nothing is written to syslog/dmesg during my 30-second test periods03:08
OerHeksE-G-Y-P-T, join  #ubuntu-eg for egypt support :-)03:08
testhi all03:08
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Guest96509i am a meer test03:08
OerHeks!test03:08
E-G-Y-P-TTHX03:08
Guest96509beep03:09
kostkonBHSPiMonkey, checked in ~/.xsession-errors as well?03:09
Guest96509I check in all my errors, for reall yo.03:09
Guest96509check one, check one.03:09
Guest96509check two.03:09
Guest96509in and out, to the side and left again!03:10
Guest96509check check one!03:10
OerHeksGuest96509, is there any ubuntu support question in that?03:10
BHSPiMonkeyOerHeks: in .screensaver, lock-delay and lock-enabled correspond with what's in my Brightness & Lock settings (30 and true). In .session, idle-delay is set to 300 (corresponding to the 5-minute "turn off screen" setting I've selected, also in Brightness & Lock)03:10
Guest96509OerHeks: Ubuntu sux0rz03:10
chatter29hey guys03:11
chatter29allah is doing03:11
chatter29sun is not doing allah is doing03:11
chatter29to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger03:11
OerHekschatter29, no slaves here, go away03:11
E-G-Y-P-Tthx oerheks03:11
Guest96509thats meean, i wanted to join his crew03:12
Guest96509the alllloooooww acccchhhhnar03:12
Guest96509anyways03:13
Guest96509i think pacman > apt-get03:13
Guest96509j00 guys know ubuntu spies on you right?03:13
BHSPiMonkeykostkon: there's some output there that might be relevant, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to be sure: https://ghostbin.com/paste/rn7py03:13
Guest96509It is like the AntiChrist, basically .. Ubuntu is the new Windows ME.03:13
Guest96509I would all rm -rf / now.03:13
Guest96509see they're listening tome ^^03:14
Guest96509Ubuntu is the DEVIL.03:14
Guest96509___________________03:14
Guest96509I am the slayer of devils.03:14
Guest96509i come to slay the03:14
Guest96509BHSPiMonkey: you like Ubuntuno?03:14
Guest96509WHy not just burn your eyes out with acid03:14
plgossomeone ban him03:14
OerHeks!ops03:14
Guest96509plgos: come on you gotta agree though?03:14
Guest96509!flops03:14
Guest96509I am spreading my word03:15
Guest96509that ubuntu suckszx0r03:15
BHSPiMonkeykostkon: though despite those last messages, I can confirm that unity-settings-daemon is indeed running right now (I actually have no idea what process actually watches the clock and auto-locks the screen)03:15
Guest96509terribly03:15
BHSPiMonkeyIf I knew which program was supposed to be responsible for the auto-lock timer, I would have started digging into source code by now03:16
BHSPiMonkeyAs far as I can tell, Unity uses the same conf keys that gnome-screensaver would, but has its own homegrown implementation03:17
kostkonBHSPiMonkey, well you could   tail -f the xsession error file and see if you are getting the same error message when the screensaver lock is supposed to fire up03:17
BHSPiMonkeywill do03:17
BHSPiMonkeyNope, no new lines after the 30 sec.03:19
kostkonBHSPiMonkey, it could be random then03:19
BHSPiMonkeyI wish it were more obvious what mechanism is supposed to enforce the timeout (so I could make sure that process is running), and subsequently how that process determines if you've been idle (so I can monitor whatever events it's monitoring)03:20
lotuspsychjeBHSPiMonkey: did you have this on previous ubuntu versions?03:21
BHSPiMonkeylotuspsychje: I've had this problem for a long time, I've just given up various other times I've tried to investigate. And when I boot to an ubuntu live installer on this machine, there isn't a problem.03:24
BHSPiMonkeyI'm really keen on figuring out what in my current install is preventing it from working as described03:25
lotuspsychjeBHSPiMonkey: wondering if different kernels test would influence this, have you tried to !bug it yet?03:25
BHSPiMonkey(And to be honest it's a bit of a problem when the Settings app tells you a security setting is "on" when it really isn't)03:25
acidchildI have a thinkpad t460s with 16.04 and 4.10.1-041001-generic. When i close my laptop lid the laptop does not suspend, when i lift it up it seems to suspend on second close. I have found some bug reports about it 'freezing' on the lid being closed, i don't know if it's related. I attempted the fix with no luck. How entire sure how to fix this. Any advise would be apprciated.03:26
OerHeksacidchild,  how did you install that 4.10 kernel ? from mainline?03:27
acidchildyes03:27
OerHeksthat repo is for testing, file a bugreport03:27
OerHeks!mainline03:28
BHSPiMonkeylotuspsychje: not sure... it'll be pretty time consuming to install a bunch of kernels and bisect :(03:28
acidchildthe issue exists in the stock kernel with Xubuntu (can't remember which one) and the last couple of testing mainline releases.03:28
OerHeksoh, ubottu is offline03:28
BHSPiMonkeyI'll probably end up doing a full checkout of unity source repos when I get home and start digging. I really hate this issue03:28
acidchildOerHeks: what does the bot say when you do !mainline? :)03:29
OerHeksacidchild, it points to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds , where is stated that it is for testing03:30
lotuspsychjeBHSPiMonkey: i strongly reccomend to test 16.04.2 LTS also on your issue, to compare03:31
acidchildOerHeks: so unrelated to my issue. ok03:32
OerHeksacidchild, you tried, and you claim it is in previous kernels too, so mention that in the bugreport?03:33
OerHeksacidchild, did you search in bugs for your machine + close lid ??03:33
acidchildOerHeks: http://askubuntu.com/questions/395428/laptop-does-not-suspend-when-lid-is-closed03:36
acidchildit's very hard to tell what the laptop is doing when the lid is closed, it's possible it's not suspending at all.03:37
acidchildi'll give the work around in the forum a go but it seems weird this issue exists at all.03:37
Condor_PeregrinoHellow guys, I was wondering if someone could help me with the next problem. I recently installeda HDD drive to my computer and I encrypted it. The thing is after putting the password to open it etc. It says that I do not have the permissions to enter  "The file could not be saved because yo do not have the propers permissios. Choose antoher save directory.03:37
acidchildhow did you encrypt the drive?03:39
acidchildis this your base OS drive or is this an additional disk?03:39
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Condor_Peregrinoacidchild: I encrypted when I installed the system; this is an HDD drive that I want to use only to store files. M03:41
acidchildOerHeks: or it is something as simple as -> http://i.imgur.com/wAKG5JB.png :p03:42
acidchildCondor_Peregrino: screenshot/pastebin please. the real error is needed.03:43
Condor_Peregrinoacidchild: ok give me a sec please03:43
Condor_Peregrinoacidchild:https://imgur.com/a/8C7RF03:44
acidchildwhat initiates this error?03:45
acidchildwhat are you doing that causes this.03:45
jamesdCondor_Peregrino: save it in your home directory or  /tmp or /var/tmp  or fix the permissions on where you want the file to be03:45
Condor_Peregrinojamesd: ¿Can I change the level of permissions that that drive has in certain times only?03:48
Condor_Peregrinojamesd: ¿how can i change the persmissions?03:48
jamesd    sudo -s03:49
Condor_Peregrinojamesd: ¿And what will be the commands?03:50
jamesdchown your-user-name  /some/directory/you/are/interested/in03:50
Condor_Peregrinojamesd: will the permissions be permanent?03:50
jamesdor chmod 7777 /some/diretory/you/want/to/write/too   #note this is not a good idea if you care about security03:51
jamesdit will make your user id the owner of the files in the directory.03:51
jamesdif you own the files usually you can write to them03:51
Condor_Peregrinojamesd: oh nice!,let me try it out03:51
Condor_Peregrinojamesd: it worked!!!!03:54
Condor_Peregrinojamesd: many thanks!03:54
lotuspsychje!cookie | jamesd03:54
jamesdi may need to go on a diet if i get cookies for helping users for chown... what will they give me for a  1 liner shell script ;-p03:55
Condor_Peregrinojamesd: well I have a question that is a little bit for difficutl03:58
Condor_Peregrinojamesd: difficult03:58
jamesdok03:59
Condor_Peregrinojamesd: well I want to run a Virtual Box image on this HDD drive. ¿Will this virtual machine will be always available?, in the senses that obviously I need the password of the hard-drive but after that will I have to use chown all the time?.04:00
jamesdCondor_Peregrino: now that you have done chown you own the file you can make changes to it...  you can start the virtualbox image headless and i think there are ways to have it autostart headless when you power on hte machine but haven't looked at that in years..04:01
Joey__hi 16.04 question. I would like to install mono complete for version 3.2.8 (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/mono-complete) how would I specify that I want this version and not 4.2.1.102?04:02
jamesdhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/92019/how-to-install-specific-ubuntu-packages-with-exact-version04:03
Joey__thanks! so I can do apt-get install mono-complete=... would I specify 3.2.8+dfsg-4ubuntu4 in my case then? the whole thing +dfsg-4ubuntu4 included?04:06
Joey__looks like it04:06
jamesdJoey__: becareful  locking your self into a specific version, security bugs do occur, if you use only an old version your data could be at risk04:07
Joey__I have a software that doesn't run on the latest version04:08
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Joey__it says it doesn't find the version (I did an apt-get update)04:15
Joey__do I need to add a repository url where to go look?04:15
uRockJoey__, are you looking for mono repo?04:16
Joey__yeah I need an older version04:16
Joey__I tried with the info for pinned release on the mono-project website but that didn't work, it kept installing the latest version04:17
Joey__so now I'm trying 16.04 because I saw it had a package, but that says 'version not found'04:18
HikaruBGhi guys!04:19
uRockhttps://www.howtoinstall.co/en/ubuntu/xenial/mono-complete Joey__04:19
HikaruBGI am trying to create a ubuntu service in /etc/init.d that will run a server for me, but it don't run...  I can provide the code - anyone help!04:20
uRockWhat service?04:20
Joey__uRock that's not the version I need... I would need this one https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/i386/mono-complete/3.2.8+dfsg-4ubuntu404:20
uRockThis isn't VagueBook04:20
HikaruBGi would like to install WSO2 server as a service, according the instructions.04:21
uRockJoey__, getting an older version to work may not be very easy as you will also have to take care of dependancies which aren't likely to be in the repo either.04:22
Allen_OaksBOATS AND HOES....BITCHES!04:33
ems36yep04:33
saberhi04:39
saberi need help04:39
Bashing-om!help | saber04:40
ubot93saber: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:40
saberhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/24082436/04:40
saber:D Here is up04:42
Ben64saber: this channel only supports ubuntu, you appear to be using debian04:44
saberaha04:44
saberokey no proplem :D04:44
HikaruBGI am trying to run this as init.d service. It won't run and I can't see why. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24082457/04:46
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raccoonsragehello05:07
raccoonsrageanyone willing to help a beginner with a bit of guidance getting my ubuntu server set up? i have all my keys in order on my other machines but not sure the next steps for making my server have the ability to be SSH'd in on a different network05:08
raccoonsragerunning 16.04 on an old macbook05:09
raccoonsragedo i need to own a real domain?05:12
uRockYou should just need to know your public IP and set up port farwarding on your router.05:14
raccoonsrageand then just ssh into that IP?05:15
uRockYup, you should be able to run "ssh name@a.b.c.d"05:16
raccoonsrageawesome, gonna fool around with that05:16
raccoonsragethanks uRock05:16
uRockyw05:16
raccoonsrageyou, rock05:16
uRocklol05:16
raccoonsragetesting brb05:23
stanford_aiEvery time my ubuntu 14.04 updates, the wifi stops working. Why is it doing this again, and again??????05:23
BHSPiMonkeylotuspsychje / OerHeks - Thanks for the leads on the screen lock issue. Turns out the "Lock screen after" timeout setting starts counting *after* the "Turn screen off when inactive for" timeout has been reached. The two options aren't even presented under the same subheading so it's quite unclear that they are connected...05:23
stanford_aishould I disable all updates? ubuntu is annoying as fuck05:23
BHSPiMonkeyNevertheless the timer is working, so I guess there's no issue there. I might open a bug to propose making the settings UI for those options a little more self-documenting05:24
BHSPiMonkey(or to allow for the lock timeout to happen -before- the screen poweroff timeout, which is what I was expecting / wanting)05:25
raccoonsrageuRock is it going to be the same SSH as before?05:26
BHSPiMonkeystanford_ai: never heard of that happening. Have you opened a bug report with details about your system and the steps to reproduce? In the meantime you might want to stick to security updates only05:26
raccoonsragei have it forwarding for the machine running ubuntu05:27
stanford_aiBHSPiMonkey, I don't even know how to file a bug report, how to reproduce it, or what info to send. I want to do work05:27
uRockraccoonsrage, If running it from outside the LAN, then you'll have to use you public IP address05:27
dennis___hey05:28
dennis___do any of you know java?05:28
raccoonsragei was trying to do it from my mobile hotspot05:28
uRockI drink it every day05:28
uRockraccoonsrage, you should be able to find it by going to whatismyip.com or something like that.05:28
dennis___uRock, could you tell me why my scanner is terminating early?05:29
uRocknot sure on that05:29
dennis___http://paste.ubuntu.com/24082722/05:29
dennis___its happening when i type recursive but not when i type iterative05:30
BHSPiMonkeystanford_ai: I feel you. To me personally, (a) figuring out the cause or (b) using a different NIC are easeier options than (c) switching OS, but that's your call.05:30
BHSPiMonkey!bug05:30
ubot93If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.05:30
BHSPiMonkeystanford_ai: ^05:30
resuI'd liket to filter zmap output to show only responses, does anyone know how?05:31
raccoonsragedo i only need to add forwarding to my ubuntu host machine?05:31
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uRockraccoonsrage, on my router I have to input the port to be forwarded, then the address and port of the internal host.05:40
dennis___can anyone please help me find whats going wrong?05:40
dennis___http://paste.ubuntu.com/24082722/05:40
raccoonsragetrying to configure this ATT router05:42
raccoonsragepublic gateway address?05:42
raccoonsragefucking at&t05:51
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lotuspsychje!language | raccoonsrage06:04
ubot93raccoonsrage: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList06:04
raccoonsragesorry06:04
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raccoonsragefrustrations :)06:04
lotuspsychjeraccoonsrage: have you tried the ##networking channel?06:04
raccoonsrageno, may be a good idea06:05
raccoonsragety06:05
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hitman1I have to split my display. I have 3 monitors. How to since my CPU only have 1 VGA port and no HDMI ?06:12
arunpyasihello people !! I am having issue with my MIC. It works fine in Windows 10 but not in Ubuntu !!06:14
hitman1I I purchase video card will it solve my problem ?06:14
arunpyasiwhat might be the reason ?06:14
raccoonsragemicrophone?06:14
hitman1Since VC too have 1 VGA port and I need 3 to connect 3 monitors.06:14
hateballhitman1: If you get a dedicated GPU the internal (cpu) wont be used. So you'll want a card with 3 outputs06:15
hateballhitman1: With displayport it is also possible to daisychain from a single port06:16
arunpyasiraccoonsrage, yes, the internal mic of laptop06:16
raccoonsragemake sure you have all the drivers installed06:16
hitman1hateball, I saw few cards on amazon but they all have 1 VGA and 1 HDMI.06:16
raccoonsragei had to add a couple that were missing after switching over06:16
hitman1And I need atleast 3 VGA or 3 HDMIs.06:16
arunpyasiraccoonsrage, I have pavucontrol06:16
hateballarunpyasi: how are you determining "not working"? Have you tried recording in e.g Audacity?06:17
hitman1How it is possible with display port ?06:17
arunpyasiraccoonsrage, which driver do you recommend for that ?06:17
hateballhitman1: https://www.displayport.org/cables/driving-multiple-displays-from-a-single-displayport-output/06:17
arunpyasihateball, yes, tried in Audacity06:17
hateballarunpyasi: have you made sure the device is not muted? run "alsamixer" in a terminal to see if that is the case06:17
hitman1arunpyasi, what a nick lol .. :D06:18
cb007hitman1: better than ours :p06:19
hitman1Once I choosed Bhaiyaji as nick :p06:19
arunpyasihateball, no, its not muted06:19
arunpyasihitman1, haha :D06:19
ubuntu_n00bWhen running ubuntu 16.04 on an AWS i3 instance and testing an NVMe local disk with bonnie++, I see file system errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24082839/06:19
arunpyasihitman1, mine is the same :D06:19
ubuntu_n00bI'm following up with AWS support, but does it also make sense to file an Ubuntu issue?06:20
arunpyasihateball, ok, just got it working but has a lot noise06:21
arunpyasiand distortion06:21
hateballarunpyasi: what chipset is it? "lspci"06:21
hateballarunpyasi: it's possible you need to supply some kernel options for it to behave properly06:21
arunpyasi00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio (rev 21)06:22
hitman1hateball, I didn't get the displayport concept06:22
hitman1Should I need to buy something ?06:22
raccoonsrageno06:23
hitman1Then How can I split displays on different monitors using display ports >?06:23
hateballhitman1: well it depends on you having monitors with displayport06:23
hitman1hateball, My monitors only have 1 port and that is VGA.06:23
hateballhitman1: well then you'd need a GPU with 3 total outputs, be it VGA+HDMI+DP, and use adapters for HDMI->VGA and DP->VGA06:25
hateballhitman1: anyhow, it's not really Ubuntu related, ##hardware would be a better place06:25
hitman1If I need to buy a video card then which one should I go for as my sole purpose is split display and not gaming.06:25
hitman1hateball, ok06:26
hitman1thnz06:26
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arunpyasicya everyone ! :)06:34
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teliguys. I deleted the default file manager, then restarted PC and now my backround is black. What do i do? im running 17.0406:47
teli_guys help. I have no more background or icons and PC crashes as soon as I minimize firefox. on 17.0406:51
teli_anyone?06:51
teli_guys help. I have no more background or icons and PC crashes as soon as I minimize firefox. on 17.0406:53
boristheanimallol teli_06:59
alkisgteli_: try asking in #ubuntu+107:00
anddamneed some help with CUPS, the Brother MFC-250C with lpr driver and cupswrapper from manufacturer installed on top of default 16.04.2 using --force-all (thus not removing cups-bsd in lieu of lpr) will accept jobs -it's perfectly recognized via USB in CUPS, with the relative driver automatically selected- but will immediately mark them as completed without printing a thing07:04
anddam##cups has been silent almost two days now07:04
anddamI reviewd most of the askubuntu/SO answers I could find, mostly outdated or trivial stuff like "how do I install a .deb file", I'm past that07:05
anddamI don't see any error in CUPS webui logs07:05
anddamI don't see any error in the unit file status07:06
akentest07:07
alkisgaken: test succeeded07:07
hitman1https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/gt-710-2gb - IS this supported by ubuntu ?07:08
Ben64yes07:08
teli_guys help. I have no more background or icons and PC crashes as soon as I minimize firefox. on 17.0407:25
FManlol07:25
anddamthere's a glitch in the matrix07:25
Edistowhen I type $export /home/admins/Downloads/VulkanSDK/1.0.42.0/x86_64 I am getting the error no such file or directory. What is the deal?07:26
FManumm, 17.04 is not an official release (so no support here)07:26
ducasseteli_: you need to ask in #ubuntu+107:26
teli_does anyone know what to do? Im a noob07:26
ducasseteli_: yes, ask in #ubuntu+107:26
FManformat and install 16.04.2 LTS07:26
alkisgEdisto: the syntax is export VAR=VALUE, what are you trying to do?07:27
ducasseteli_: if you are a newbie, you should not be running a development release07:27
Edistoalkisg: ahhh... that worked thanks. Trying to install vulkan drivers so I can install proprietary amd drivers07:30
alkisgnp07:30
strkI'm lost with resolv.conf, how do I query the libc view on the matter ?07:33
strksimply adding entries in /etc/resolv.conf doesn't seem to have any effect (on nslookup "server" command, for example) -- is there any command to run for updating the dns servers ?07:33
hateballstrk: what version of ubuntu are you using? typically you are using network-manager and you should use that to change DNS servers07:36
hateballand then there is dnsmasq that does caching07:36
hgthHow can I uninstall a font I installed via the gui font viewer?07:43
strkhateball: 16.04, yes I'm usually using network-manager and only configuring via GUI but today I had a problem and was left outside of X (does network-manager require X ?) and to debug I've manually configured the interface (ifconfig) and routing (route) but found myself unable to deal with the resolver (as changes to /etc/resolv.conf were ineffective)07:45
hateballstrk: there is still nmcli07:45
Edistogetting error "dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)" when trying to do sudo apt-get -f install. How do I bypass this error? Trying to update my gimp to 2.9.507:45
strkhateball: does it mean the network manager is now mandatory to use network ? I hope not ?07:46
EriC^^Edisto: paste the whole output in a pastebin07:46
hateballstrk: no, but as long as you have it, it will overwrite configs etc07:47
Edistohttp://pastebin.com/fpVwTbcx07:47
strkhateball: I stopped it as first thing while trying to do things manually07:48
strkand quit dnsmasq too07:48
EriC^^Edisto: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/gimp_2.9.5~89-0x0~ppa~86e101e_amd64.deb07:48
Edistowoot thanks much =D07:49
EriC^^:D np07:49
hateballstrk: I'm not sure why you dont just use nmcli07:49
alkisgstrk: stopping network manager doesn't undo the changes that it does upon its installation. So just start it again and use nmcli like hateball says.07:51
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geirhalooks like a badly written trigger in that package. Probably a bash script using errexit in combination with pipefail07:56
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vltHello. I installed xrdp on an Ubuntu 16.04 system. My tests all looked fine but now users complain about not being able to login. There seems to be a 10 user limit. How can I remove this without disturbing users that are alrrady logged in and working?08:59
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branchesHello, is there a way to know which kernel driver my touchpad is using?09:02
ikevinbranches, try lsmod09:02
Harishello all09:06
HarisI'm on 14.04.2. Does upgrading to .5 enough for security updates for me till 2019 ?09:07
HarisDoes = I09:07
HarisDoes = Is09:07
cfhowlettHaris, you should be on 14.04.5 which is the current version.09:07
cfhowlettsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:08
Harishave php, php lib for mysql, mysql version changed between .2 and .5 ?09:08
cfhowlett14.04 is supported until 201909:08
strkhateball: ok I guess I'll surrender to network-manager, thanks for nmcli hint (I didn't know it)09:11
ikevinHaris, you can update apt database and check php / mysql version with apt-cache show09:11
Harischecking09:13
Harisdist-upgrade and do-release-upgrade are two separate things ?09:15
cfhowlettYES09:15
Harisdis-upgrade would upgrade pkgs till the same major release ?09:15
cfhowlettHaris, ... within the same major release09:15
OnceMeI get This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources.09:17
OnceMeIm not sure what sources are those, how can I check and also how to get rid of them?09:17
zambahow do i check which version of the sftp protocol a server supports?09:17
cfhowlettOnceMe, /more /etc/apt/sources.list09:17
OnceMeok09:17
OnceMeI also get this:09:17
cfhowlettOnceMe, that would be more ...09:17
OnceMehttps://thepasteb.in/p/Q1hBOBAR1Zwu809:18
cfhowlettOnceMe, yep... ppa are non-trusted09:18
OnceMebut why is this ppa not found?09:18
cfhowlettthe 404 suggests that either the package has been dropped or that source is in error09:18
OnceMeI used this to regularly update php09:18
OnceMehow to fix the source?09:19
OnceMeShould I remove this ppa?09:19
ikevinzamba, sftp localhost, when logued, type "version"09:19
ikoniaOnceMe: talk to the ppa owner09:19
ikoniaOnceMe: this is why ppa's are not trusted09:19
cfhowlettOnceMe, your choice.  I don't do ppa myself ...09:19
OnceMehow do you install php then?09:19
OnceMealso I see in sources.list.d some files09:19
OnceMethose are ppa untrusted right?09:19
cfhowlettfrom the main repos ... apt install php09:19
ikoniaOnceMe: you use the distro provided and maintained packages09:20
ikoniathat way you are guarenteed support for the lifecycle of the distro09:20
zambaikevin: thank you :)09:20
OnceMecfhowlett: but that php version is obsolete09:20
ikevinzamba, you welcome09:21
ikoniaOnceMe: what version of ubuntu are you using09:21
OnceMe14.04 LTS09:21
ikoniaOnceMe: what version does that ship with ?09:21
ikonia5.4 ?09:21
OnceMeyes09:21
ikevin5.6 i think09:21
ikevino:09:21
OnceMebut I need fpm as well09:21
OnceMefpm is not included09:21
ikoniaOnceMe: so use a later version of ubuntu (16.04 lts for example which ships with 5 or 7)09:22
ikoniaOnceMe: and that way you get support for the full lifecycle09:22
OnceMeI want 5.6.3009:22
ikoniait doesn't really work like that09:22
ikoniamore so with fixes being back ported09:22
ikoniathe version will not always match upstream09:22
ikevinOnceMe, why you wan't this specific version?09:23
OnceMebecause I have all I need in that version09:23
OnceMeand on my production server, it's 5.6.30 aswell09:23
OnceMeI want that to be matched09:23
ikoniaOnceMe: it doesn't work like that though09:23
OnceMeI could used vagrant though09:23
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OnceMeikonia: what it doesnt work?09:25
ikoniaOnceMe: ?09:26
OnceMeOnceMe: it doesn't work like that though09:26
ikoniaOnceMe: you don't just pick an upstream version and say "I want that"09:26
vyddtuHello. Can i pastebin an Image at https://paste.ubuntu.com/ ??09:26
Ben64vyddtu: imgur.com09:26
cfhowlettvyddtu, yes?09:26
ikoniavyddtu: no09:26
cfhowlettscreenshot the image then imgur it .. though why you would want to ...09:27
vyddtuoops.. i want to paste an image somewhere before asking you people my query.09:27
Legalvyddtu, yes. Open image in text editor, and then paste. :/ But use imgur maybe...09:27
vyddtuLegal: let me try. thanks09:27
OnceMeikonia: so what do I do?09:28
ikoniaOnceMe: understand the versions the distro ships and pick a distro that supplies a support version that meets your requirements09:28
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OnceMewell you are saying I should use vagrant09:28
ikevinOnceMe, or don't upgrade php/mysql (freeze your currents package)09:28
OnceMebut I think its the best way anyway09:28
ikoniaOnceMe: not at all09:29
ikoniaI'mnot saying that at all09:29
ikevinOnceMe, http://askubuntu.com/questions/18654/how-to-prevent-updating-of-a-specific-package09:29
Ben64really bad idea ^09:29
ikoniaagreed09:30
ikevini know, but ...09:30
Ben64ikevin: best not to give bad ideas out probably09:30
OnceMeBen64: would you recommend vagrant09:31
ikoniano09:31
vyddtuHello. I want to reinstall my Ubuntu.[[[ http://picpaste.com/unnamed.png ]] This is my current Disk Architecture along with Windows 7 installed which i feel is not correct. Please suggest me right partitions for fresh Installation.09:31
OnceMewhy not09:31
Ben64OnceMe: no09:31
ikoniaOnceMe: for the reasons I stated earlier09:31
ikoniaI have no idea why you think vagrant voids those reasons09:31
Ben64vyddtu: why reinstall? and you should be able to boot the installer and choose to replace ubuntu09:32
vyddtuBen64: you mean i run the Ubuntu 16.04 DVD again and replace Ubuntu?09:33
Ben64vyddtu: yeah that should work09:33
OnceMeikonia: it doesnt09:34
OnceMebut can ensure my distro is the same across local, staging and production environment09:34
OnceMeI use centos 6.8 on a local/staging platform09:34
ikoniaOnceMe: by using the same distro09:34
OnceMeyes09:34
Ben64yeah, then install centos 6.809:34
OnceMethats why I need vagrant09:35
Ben64no09:35
ikoniano09:35
OnceMeI like ubuntu as a home desktop09:35
ikoniathats how you ensure it09:35
ikevinOnceMe, if you wan't the same env as your production, clone your production server09:35
OnceMewhat?09:35
Ben64either use ubuntu or use centos, you can't make them the same09:35
OnceMeI know09:35
OnceMeI use ubuntu09:35
Ben64i don't think you do know09:35
OnceMefor a home desktop, and when I develop apps, I use vagrant to run centos 6.809:35
OnceMebecuase thats my production server09:35
OnceMeright?09:35
ikoniause whatever technology you feel best to deliver a centos environment that mirrors your production server09:36
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aavrugHello everyone!09:36
OnceMeok great, thanks09:37
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aavrugI have upgraded my Ubuntu OS to 16.04. Few MySQL tables are broken because Of that. Is there any way that I can downgrade MySQL to 5.5?09:37
ikoniano09:38
OnceMeaavrug: use vagrant09:38
ikoniaand tables won't break because of an upgrade09:38
ikoniaOnceMe: please stop telling people to blindly use vagrant09:38
ikoniait is not the answer09:38
cfhowlettOnceMe, do you work for vagrant or something??09:38
ikevinaavrug, normally there a script to convert mysql database after upgrade09:38
aavrugikonia, yea it is in MySQL5.7 even from 5.6 there are lot of changes and because of that something broken09:38
aavrugikevin, what's that?09:39
OnceMecfhowlett: yes09:39
OnceMe:D09:39
aavrugOnceMe, why I use vagrant?09:39
Ben64aavrug: you don't, it's not a solution09:40
aavrugI don't think this is my solution09:40
ikoniaaavrug: you need to understand what is cause the problems and if it's really "tables" that are broken09:40
aavrugBen64, yea09:40
vyddtuBen64: actually my ubuntu /var used to get filled. Tired of solving this problem am trying re-install.09:40
ikevinaavrug, what does mysql log said?09:40
Ben64vyddtu: you'd probably have more luck solving the problem instead of reinstalling09:41
aavrugikonia, I got the error and tried to fix that but still getting same error like there is a comparuison using ">" operator which is working fine in 5.5 but from 5.6 it is not working. Even I tried to convert my tables to utf8-general-cli but still not working09:41
ikoniayou've just said things that don't make sense09:42
ikoniayou have a comparison in the sql thats failing, so you convert your tables to utf8 ?09:42
vyddtuBen64: i tried shifting /var to my my home director and making appropriate changes in fstab, but thats where i broke the system. it is working but shows errors.09:42
Ben64vyddtu: why would you move /var to home???09:43
cfhowlettvyddtu, wait, what?  why?09:43
aavrugThe table collation was latin-swedish-ci and I searched for the error I got that I have to change it to utf8...09:43
ikevinaavrug, ">" operator work fine in mysql 5.709:43
ikoniaaavrug: the first thing I would suggest you do is make a clean note of the problems/errors, then talk to the #mysql channel to understand how to deal with them09:44
ikoniathe problem isn't ubuntu, the problem is your application may need work to comply with the later mysql version09:44
ikevinaavrug, "select 2 > 1 ;" said what?09:44
vyddtuBen64: My /var used to get filled and i was unable to install any more software when my root had much space. So i was suggested to merge /var with root partition and delete /var09:44
aavrugikonia, 109:44
vyddtucfhowlett: sorry merge /var to root i meant09:45
cfhowlettvyddtu, worst - advice - ever09:45
ikevinaavrug, it mean the operator work, maybe you have problem with rom type09:45
vyddtucfhowlett: i was given this link to follow: http://askubuntu.com/questions/89105/how-do-i-relocate-on-my-ubuntu-moveable-directories-var-and-usr09:45
aavrugBtw I know it is MySQL related error but I have shortage of time that's why I was looking for a way to downgrade the MySQL version.09:45
ikevinrow*09:45
aavrugBut it seems there is no way to achieve that.09:46
ikoniaaavrug: not going to happen09:46
ikoniaaavrug: get everything documented and clear and talk to the experienced guys in #mysql09:46
ikoniaaavrug: they will be your quickest path to sucess09:46
aavrugok thanks09:46
aavrugyea I think so09:46
ikoniaaavrug: you'll need to describe your problems clearly though09:47
ikevinaavrug, be sure you row are INT (or any numeric type)09:47
aavrugok I'll check and thanks I'll take care of that.09:47
vyddtu_sorry got disconnected :-(09:51
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des_consoladothis resolvconf package... wtf is this? what was wrong with just having /etc/resolv.conf, nice and simple?10:04
ikoniasome people benifit from it with things like dnsmasq for vpn connections10:05
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NotLimdes_consolado10:09
NotLimyou don't like resolvconf?10:10
des_consoladoNotLim: I don't think so, I haven't looked too much at it but it's certainly not as simple as the usual resolv.conf10:12
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NotLimyes10:12
NotLimyou just have to edit /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base10:12
NotLimi think10:12
NotLimthen resolvconf -u10:12
g105bI need to start multiple python scripts concurrently, and keep them running even if they fail. Is systemd the tool for the job?10:19
ikeving105b, yep it can10:21
g105bMore specifically, I know there are various tools around systemd (upstart, initd), and I wanted to make sure I have the terminology correct before googling.10:21
ikeving105b, it depend of the ubuntu version you use10:22
CFILI am looking for a parental control system for children, it should mainly be able to do two things: restrict computer and internet access times and log what the children are doing/which applications they are using. but the first one is more importan10:22
jk_hi10:22
CFILdoes anyone know of such a thing?10:22
k1l_g105b: upstart and sysvinit are not tools around systemd, all 3 are init systems.10:22
jk_How are you?10:22
ikevinCFIL, iirc, dnsmask can do this kind of things10:23
g105bCFIL: Google Chrome browser has some good parental controls, unless your kids are trying to do something linux specific10:23
ikoniaisn't there a parental control thing built into the desktop ?10:23
g105bikevin: yes but that is too easy to google for.10:24
CFILikonia, is it part of unity?10:24
ikoniaCFIL: not sure, I'm not sure it exists, I'm working from memory10:25
tatertotsCFIL: put some thought into a single silver bullet strategy....and the weakness of such a single silver bullet strategy....10:25
ikoniathere is this info from the ubuntu wiki using different tools https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ParentalControls10:25
CFILok thanks everyone10:26
CFILtatertots, I don't understand what you mean by that10:26
jk_ping10:26
tatertotsCFIL: good luck10:26
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cfhowlettjk_,  the topic is ubuntu support.  ask your questions or chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic,10:27
jk_at me10:27
ikevinCFIL, install ctparental and configur it at http://127.0.0.1/CTadmin/10:27
CFILikevin, thanks, I am looking into that10:28
tatertotsCFIL: best analogy i can throw at you is......my automobile has seat belts AND air bags10:28
tatertotsif you still don't get it....i can't help you there10:29
CFILyes but this is just about some time control for children, not about car crashes. And if they put the effort into it and find some holes in the control program its not even bad, at least they had to think about how the system works10:31
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tatertotsgood luck with your endeavors10:32
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g105bIf I put a new .service file in /lib/systemd/system will it load at boot time by default, or do I need to do some configuration to get it to start automatically?10:40
ikeving105b, you need to do a systemctl <your service name> enable10:43
EriC^^*enable <service name>10:44
g105bikevin: and that will persist across multiple boots?10:44
ikeving105b, yes10:44
g105bCool, sounds simple.10:44
ikevinEriC^^, +1 (sorry)10:44
alex73Question: I have a lenovo t420. When I unplug my charger, it gives me an estimated time. But the estimate is very, very off. It will say like: "Estimated time left: 40 hours". What is causing that?10:59
elias_aHow do I open tabs in default terminal?11:00
elias_aI see only "open new terminal window" option.11:01
k1l_elias_a: like on a browser11:01
k1l_ctrl+shift+t11:01
thegamehi11:01
alex73elias_a: what is the terminal?11:01
thegameterminal is a cmd prompt11:01
alex73(I use lubuntu LTS, I'm out of the loop)11:01
thegamehi alex11:02
alex73thegame: no I mean what is his default terminal11:02
thegamewho knows11:02
elias_ak1l_: Does not work for me. :/11:02
thegamewhere are u guys frm ?11:02
k1l_the standard terminal on ubuntu is gnome-terminal11:02
k1l_elias_a: what ubuntu is that exactly?11:02
thegameyakety yak11:02
elias_ak1l_: 16.04 LTS11:03
alex73It's lxterminal then11:03
elias_aAnd Gnome terminal in use.11:03
k1l_elias_a: and desktop?11:03
thegamehi alex11:03
thegamealex11:03
thegamealex11:03
cfhowlettlxterminal?  only on lubuntu11:03
thegameknock knock11:03
k1l_alex73: no, lxterminal is not the standard terminal on ubuntu. its on Lubuntu since that uses lxde11:03
alex73Oh my bad, sorry, brain is fried from no sleep11:03
alex73I misread11:03
k1l_thegame: keep this channel for technical support only11:04
thegamedie11:04
thegameok11:04
thegamewatsup ppl11:04
elias_ak1l_: Unity11:04
thegamemate11:04
cfhowlettthegame, topic is ubuntu.  ask your questions here or jibberjabber in #ubuntu-offtopic11:04
alex73elias_a: since no one else answered, here: http://pastebin.com/LTKMBMUk11:04
k1l_elias_a: are you sure you used "ctrl+shift+t"?11:04
thegamedoes anyone see football11:05
elias_ak1l_: Yes I am certain.11:05
k1l_thegame: last warning now. this channel is not for chat, only technial support11:05
thegamewhich u r ?11:05
cfhowlettthegame, nothing to do with ubuntu support.  focus.11:05
thegamewghich team11:05
thegamewith the name game, i shouldnt talk abt football11:06
thegameso sad11:06
k1l_elias_a: did you change the shortcuts then?11:06
alex73elias_a: if you use that script,  ctrl shift t will work11:06
k1l_alex73: it works without some scripts.11:06
elias_ak1l_: What puzzles me is that there used to be "open new tab" in the menu anymore.11:06
thegame@cfhowlett ?????????11:06
k1l_elias_a: its not in the menu, but the shortcut works. so the question is: what did you change there11:07
elias_aAnd this is quite newly reinstalled.11:07
alex73elias_a: go to preferences, do you see 'open new terminals' ?11:07
thegamehelooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo11:07
cfhowlett!ops | thegame kick/ban request11:08
ubottuthegame kick/ban request: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu11:08
thegameits time to play the game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11:08
elias_aalex73: I have to figure out which menu is which as I use ubuntu in Finnish.11:08
thegameyou cant kick ,eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee11:08
alex73elias_a: Make sure it's set to 'tabs' and not windows (when you do the shorcut do it do anything?)11:08
alex73elias_a: Aha I see11:08
elias_aalex73: First dropdown menu from the left?11:09
thegamewho willl see wwe ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------11:09
alex73elias_a: I haven't used gnome terminal in years. Maybe11:09
alex73It's finnnish for options/preferences ?11:09
alex73elias_a: try it. https://i.stack.imgur.com/aHvHN.png <----- the new window looks like this11:10
elias_aalex73, k1l_ : I found the problem. The keyboard shortcuts are disabled altogether.11:10
k1l_alex73: that doesnt change  anything on that the shortcut i named has to work.11:10
k1l_there we go11:10
alex73k1l_: He didn't say whether the command did anything. Check on the off chance that it was opening windows11:11
alex73elias_a: and nice :)11:11
elias_aalex73, k1l_ Thank you!11:12
elias_aNow it works like charm.11:12
elias_aI suppose gnome-terminal settings are saved in /home/user ? I'd of course like them to survive reinstall and so forth.11:13
* dimisdas creeks11:14
alex73elias_a: It's been a while, not sure if this is still the correct config location: ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal11:16
majaany one use recordmydesktop and get very pixalated results ?11:17
EriC^^maja: obs project is way better for some stuff11:17
EriC^^https://obsproject.com/11:17
ostekakeHello! I am trying to set a user account password expiery date on Ubuntu Server, but I only find the "chage -E" option making the entire account expire instead. I don't want to use the max days option, I want to set a date instead. is that possible?11:19
majaEriC^^: i am in terminal and just talking about some code11:19
majabut pixals take too long to update and i get artifacts all over11:20
EriC^^maja: odd, i'd try obsproject though, i really like it11:20
majaEriC^^: not avalible from repo ?11:21
EriC^^no, i dont think so11:21
EriC^^!info obsproject11:21
ubottuPackage obsproject does not exist in yakkety11:21
EriC^^!info obs-studio11:21
ubottuPackage obs-studio does not exist in yakkety11:21
majaahh custom repo11:21
majanot my fave but it will do11:22
EriC^^maja: it's pretty powerful ;)11:22
ducasseEriC^^: on my machine it's visible in universe11:22
EriC^^it is? what's the package name?11:22
majaEriC^^: just as long as it doesn't pixualate11:22
ducasseEriC^^: obs-studio11:23
EriC^^ah it is, odd11:23
EriC^^maja: try sudo apt-get install obs-studio11:23
majais working :)11:23
majaEriC^^: installed but isn't doing much11:26
majai press record and not much happens11:26
EriC^^do you have sources selected?11:27
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majasources screen cap but doesn't seem to output a file11:29
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majaEriC^^: and it works :D11:32
majathanks11:33
masamihey, i'm new to Linux and i have question. What's the best way to copy *large* files from ubuntu computer to external hard drive? i guess ctrl-c and ctrl-v is not reliable. pls help.11:39
cfhowlettmasami, the copy command is cp ...11:39
masamicfhowlett: do you know gui app for that? so that there's something like indicator to let me know when copying is finished11:40
cfhowlettmasami, terminal time: man cp     will give you all the details, but the --verbose option will display progress11:41
k1lmasami: first look if your filesystem on the external hdd can make use of that big files (like 4gb limit on fat). then you can use the gui file explorer and use crtl+c and ctrl+v. but you can use rsync if you want to be very sure11:41
k1lmasami: why do you think the file browser is not good for this?11:42
masamicfhowlett: i type terminal time: man cp on terminal? like that?11:43
cfhowlettmasami, yep.11:43
cfhowlettfirst the dash >> terminal11:43
cfhowlettopen the terminal and type man cp11:43
masamik1l: i just formatted a 4TB using gnome disk utility to encrypted (because i read it gives secutiry). what do you mean sorry?11:43
masami..now it is a blank hard disk11:44
k1lmasami: i ask why you think the gui copyprocess is not reliable.11:44
trudkoHello ;), what's going on with Ubuntu? I've been using Ubuntu Gnome since 16.04 (previous was using ElementaryOS and Ubuntu before that) and I am experiencing general unstabillity. I had to ignore at least 3 reported errors on startup ,I still have a problem of automatically switching fly mode on and off(i think this was also reported), audio isn't switched automatically when I plug in and out the headphones, suspend when I closed the l11:45
trudkoproblem is that twice during last week I got log out when I locked the screen(hopefully this is just temporally) , is this case of bad luck, me doing something really wrong or quality of Ubuntu isn't what it used to be ?....11:46
trudkoReally I need stable Linux Distro where I dont have to configure that much so I can focus on my work11:46
BluesKajHI folks11:46
masamicfhowlett: can you give example how to use the command you sent?11:47
Harisguys, how to show bw graph in Mb/s rather than MB/s ?11:47
Harisbits vs bytes11:47
cfhowlettmasami, cp location1filename location2filename --verbose11:48
masamicfhowlett: ok. and there will be ETA?11:49
OlofLDoes ubuntu support switchable graphices for laptops? i have amd and intel graphics on hp laptop11:49
Harisoops wrong window11:49
ostekakeHello! Trying to create a bash script to learn (task in a book) but I fail at the first part. I need to check weather a disk exists, I do this by checking for it in /dev/sd* (as it's not mounted) but my bash fails and can't see /dev/sdd even though it exists. https://hastebin.com/etajuhosed.bash11:54
masamiok i get it. thanks11:54
ducasseostekake: try -b instead of -f11:56
ostekakeok trying thanks ducasse : )11:57
ostekakethank you that worked ducasse!11:58
ducasseostekake: /dev/sdd is not a regular file :)11:58
ostekakeI noticed, but I thought I could treat it like a file any how as it's not a directory11:58
ostekakeapparantly my view of files is too boolean11:59
geirhaAlso, use [[ ]] instead of [ ] for testing files, and printf instead of echo12:07
tatertotsOlofL: yes12:07
tatertotsOlofL: do you need a hand with it?12:07
OnceMehow can I get rid of ppa-s?12:12
OnceMeI want only truested repo sources12:12
k1l!ppa-purge | OnceMe12:12
CroniXI love pork12:13
k1l!ppa-purge | OnceMe12:13
ducasseubottu seems ill12:13
OnceMe?12:13
OnceMewhere can I see lists of all ppa-s?12:14
OnceMeI want manually ot remove it12:14
OnceMeand should I remove apps I have installed via it?12:14
ubottuOnceMe: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html12:14
k1lOnceMe: you better use ppa-purge since that removes the apps automatically12:14
TessargiCan anyone tell me where are the settings for the „taskbar” are stored? I'm trying to modify the default shortcuts for guest-session12:17
k1lOnceMe: you can see the ppas when running "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"12:17
ostekakehello! Trying to create a bash script, and ..I think it should work, but getting unexpeted end of file (want to test it, it probably fails and is terrible now), could any one take a look? :) https://hastebin.com/ilaheyukuw.bash12:18
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backboxhep12:34
Legalostekake, you have 4 instances of if but only 3 of fi, so one if statement is not closed...12:47
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ostekakeLegal, thanks, looking at it now. I updated but I cannot for the love of god find out where the last fi should be https://hastebin.com/vukecayugu.bash12:48
ostekake(i should be 0, I know)12:49
EriC^^ostekake: the if on line 20 needs to be closed12:51
EriC^^also the one on line 18 is extra12:52
ostekakethank you EriC^^!12:52
EriC^^ostekake: why are you mounting /dev/sda in line 28? seems like a typo?12:55
ostekakethat is correct!12:55
ostekakeI don't really know much, learning as I go12:55
ostekakethank you for pointing it out :)12:56
ostekakethe script actually seems to work now though, I'm happy12:56
PradipWhi12:57
aamutahtiHi, does anyone know if its possible to generate a initramfs that uses cryptsetup with a detached header using update-initramfs?12:57
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EriC^^ostekake: no problem12:59
EriC^^that's good12:59
JFox762Hi guys12:59
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Luv1Hi, I am new to Linux based Operating systems. I would like to know more about coding, primarily OSD. Can somebody help me. I know C and C++.13:00
JFox762So ummm Im thinking of getting a 2nd hard drive to install onto my desktop pc (Which is basically my gaming workhorse) and install Ubuntu onto that 2nd Drive...13:00
JFox762this is just to experiment with13:00
JFox762how big a drive would you recommend?13:00
JFox762Im new to linux13:00
PradipWHello.13:00
EriC^^JFox762: anything over 20gb will do13:01
JFox762Would I find myself filling up that 2nd drive by *A LOT*13:01
LegalJFox762, 10TB, Helium seagate. But anything modern will do :)13:01
aamutahtiJFox762, linux doesn't take much space, maybe 20GB with the OS and a bunch of applcications. Just depends on how much space you want for media13:01
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JFox762well i plan to keep aall my games and media on my windows drive13:01
k1lJFox762: its up to you. minimum would be like 10-15GB13:01
aamutahtiJFox762: you can access ntfs from linux13:02
aamutahtii.e your windows drive13:02
JFox762Oh ok... so would a 500 gb hd last me a while?13:02
aamutahtiyes absolutely13:02
k1lJFox762: the ubuntu systen uses around 10gb. the rest is the stuff you store on the hdd.13:02
JFox762when Im booted into linux...13:03
brunch875JFox762: I am using a 120GB ssd where I install everything13:03
JFox762i can't affect the files on the windows drive... right?13:03
brunch875JFox762: you can access the windows drive and edit it as you please13:03
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JFox762hmm ... so if i screw something up in linux13:03
JFox762i can screw up my windows drivE?13:03
k1lJFox762: you can mount the windows partitions, yes.13:03
JFox762brb... but feel free to answer...13:04
brunch875JFox762: If you do something wild which breaks linux, it won't affect the windows partition, no13:04
brunch875mostly13:04
brunch875now then, you can always get in the windows partition and hit the delete key a couple of times while selecting folder13:05
brunch875is that what you mean by screwup?13:05
OlofLtatertots: maybe soon :) if ubuntu supports it, does also kubuntu then?13:10
EriC^^JFox762: if you run a command that uses root privileges you could screw it up big time13:10
EriC^^especially stuff related to disks and partitioning13:11
JFox762so is there a way to set up my partition...13:12
Condor_PeregrinoGuys Im trying to format my encrypted internal HDD drive. I have already used the chown command to give me the attributes to doanything on the drive.The thing is I want to format it and doesnt let me13:12
JFox762so that my Windows Drive HDD13:12
JFox762and my Linux HDD... are completely separate13:12
JFox762so that if I boot into linux Hdd13:12
JFox762it can't access anything from the Windows HDD?13:12
EriC^^so just don't run random stuff, and always see which name is in the command13:13
JFox762not even see the partition?13:13
Condor_Peregrinoall this started because I formatted my system from cero and now all the system is a little bit weird, small13:13
Condor_Peregrinowhy is this?13:13
EriC^^like /dev/sda isn't the same as /dev/sda413:13
EriC^^JFox762: yeah you can pass a parameter to the bootloader grub and it won't let linux see it at all13:13
JFox762Ok...13:14
tatertotsOlofL: yes13:14
JFox762my ultimate goal, eventually, is two have 4 drives on my PC... I eventually want to take my current 1TB HDD, and replace it with a 2TB SSHD for my Windows.... and just migrate everything over to it13:15
JFox762then my 1 TB, I will format it, and turn it into a linux hdd13:15
JFox762and then....13:15
JFox762perhaps two drives of 1 TB each in a Raid 1 Config for stable storage of important documents, etc...13:16
alkisgJFox762: you can also use virtualbox to setup and test ubuntu in a virtual machine inside windows, without getting a new hard drive13:16
JFox762I tried virtualbox... but it was sluggish13:16
JFox762Which is crazy because my system is pretty decent13:16
JFox762i5 4690k13:17
alkisgDid you give it 2 or 4 cores?13:17
JFox762GTX 97013:17
JFox762and I think I have 16gb13:17
JFox762I have no idea13:17
JFox762Im not on my desktop13:17
alkisgThe default is to be single core, that's one of the reasons it would be sluggish13:17
alkisgThe other would be "no client graphics drivers"13:17
JFox762im on my C720 Chromebook running GalliumOS (a xubuntu distro)13:18
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JFox762Gallium OS is my first experience with Linux13:18
JFox762I have to say I like it so far... but it is limited in strong part due to the fact that my chromebook has very limited specifications13:19
akash_Hello people, do anyone familiar with yum commands?13:29
ikevinakash_, maybe yes, so why asking about yum on an ubuntu channel?13:30
akash_ikevin: I use ubuntu and thought this is the best channel to get knowledge with ubuntu related jobs :)13:31
django_how can you restore to original settings lol13:31
akash_ikevin: Have you used yum before?13:35
ikevinyep, so not under ubuntu and not for advanced use13:36
ikevinakash_, what problem you have with yum?13:37
akash_ikevin: Recently I installed yum, and when I use sudo yum install <name of the package>. It throws some error with https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/HKfSorLl/13:40
JFox762oops13:41
ikevinakash_, and repo list give you a valid list of repo?13:42
akash_ikevin: No, when I follow yum repolist all, it shows zero13:43
ikevinakash_, so, add some repo :p13:44
JFox762is there some way to run memtest86 equivalent on linux?13:47
ikoniayou don't run it from within an OS13:48
ikoniait's a boot option13:48
ikoniaif you run it from within the OS - it's not going to be a sane test13:48
JFox762hmmm....13:48
JFox762thing is... uhh13:48
JFox762Im on a chromebook c72013:48
JFox762running gallium OS13:49
ikoniathen why are you in this channel ?13:49
ikoniaasking for help, as this is nothing to do with ubuntu13:49
JFox762well it is based on ubuntu13:49
nils_Hello all, this my first message. Hope you have a great day!13:49
ikoniait's not ubuntu though13:50
ikoniaand this channel only supports ubuntu13:50
RxMcDonaldHello, anyone knows how to block ubuntu from computing? It keeps going and I don't know how to stop13:50
ikoniaRxMcDonald: whats the problem13:50
JFox762sorry13:50
ikoniaJFox762: no problem13:51
RxMcDonaldikonia: It keeps computing but I need to compute something else13:51
ikoniaRxMcDonald: explain the problem "it's computing" means nothing13:51
ic3cdrHi13:52
RxMcDonaldikonia: the CPU keeps going and going and I need to compute other things13:52
ikoniaRxMcDonald: what is it being used by13:52
RxMcDonaldikonia: Ubuntu keeps computing and i can't do anything It's computing with the CPU13:53
ikoniaRxMcDonald: what is using the cpu13:53
RxMcDonaldikonia: Ubuntu13:53
ikoniaRxMcDonald: no it's not13:53
ikoniaRxMcDonald: what process is using the cpu13:53
RxMcDonaldUbuntu keeps computing, I can't do anything13:54
ikoniaRxMcDonald: how do you know this13:54
ikoniahow do you know it's "computing"13:54
RxMcDonaldBecause I can see the computer CPU with a green light in front of it13:55
ikoniaRxMcDonald: sorry, I'm not accepting this as a diagnosis13:55
RxMcDonaldIt is flashing very fast so it's still computing13:55
ikoniaRxMcDonald: lets start from the begining, what version of ubuntu is this13:55
theptrDoes anybody know a good chat client for ubuntu ? I want to use if possible facebook messenger irc and whatsapp in 1 client :)13:55
ikoniatheptr: you'll be dissapointed then13:56
RxMcDonaldubuntu 6.1013:56
ikoniaRxMcDonald: then it's not supported13:56
theptrikonia, is it not possible ?13:56
geirhaHopefully you accidentally left out the leading 1 there13:56
RxMcDonaldikonia: ok how do I add more ubuntu in the CPU?13:56
ikoniaRxMcDonald: sorry - we don't support ubuntu 6.10 here13:56
ikoniait's an end of life distirbution13:57
RxMcDonaldikonia: tell me how to increase the ubuntu in the CPU please13:57
ikoniaand I've got to be honest, I think this is a "troll" question13:57
ikoniaRxMcDonald: no, 6.10 is end of life13:57
RxMcDonaldyes but how do I increase the ubuntu?13:57
ikoniaas if any cpu has a flashing light on the mother board to show how hard its working13:57
ikoniaRxMcDonald: discussion over, your distribution is not supported,13:57
RxMcDonaldbut I want to increase ubuntu to supported CPU13:58
geirhaSupport for Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft ended April 200813:58
theptrikonia, i think he wants to know how to upgrade his ubuntu to for example 16.0413:58
pauljwtheptr, try pidgin13:58
theptrpauljw, going to give it a try13:58
ikoniatheptr: I don't think thats the case at all,13:59
cfhowlettsorry guys, but RxMcDonald is a confirmed troll.  comes by about every 10 days with off the wall queries such as this.  best to add to /ignore13:59
ikoniacfhowlett: thank you, I suspected as much13:59
theptrcfhowlett, that makes sense :)13:59
Condor_peregrinoguys I have reinstall my systema and all the installation process has been very complicated. Now all that is installation doesnt work or works slowly14:10
Condor_peregrinowhy can this be?14:10
ikoniadefine doesn't work please Condor_peregrino14:10
Condor_peregrinoikonia: for example I want to install the "Terminator" terminal. I did a successful installation through the terminal without any problem. Then I try to open it from Ubuntu menu and it tries to open but nothing happens. Then I run the command "Terminator" form the terminal and it works awesome. That happens with many packages that Im trying to install14:17
ikoniaCondor_peregrino: thats not being slow14:18
ikoniaCondor_peregrino: that suggests to me the place you're installing to is not in the desktops path/location aware, so it can't open the applications14:19
TaxicletterGood afternoon!14:24
TaxicletterI have a problem... maybe someone can help me...14:24
blockyTaxicletter: I guess we'll never know14:25
TaxicletterUnless I ask a question, of course!14:25
Taxicletter:-D14:25
TaxicletterI'm on Xubuntu and I have an external USB drive, FAT, with my music on it.14:25
TaxicletterI just took a backup from that drive with Back In Time. Now I want to copy some more music to it, but I have no acces, While me myself am the owner??14:26
TaxicletterWith read/write permissions. The group is also my name, but only read permissions. I try to change that in the property window, but that doesn't work...14:27
TaxicletterSO, blocky... can you help? :-)14:27
BluesKajTaxicletter, do you have the drive UUID entered in /etc/fstab?14:27
TaxicletterI don't think so, I didn't do that anyway.14:29
yeeveAnyone in chat using VOIP softphone software for their PC? I tried to setup our windows version using wine/mono but although it installs when I load it I just get a black app window and high CPU usage14:31
ikoniause a native linux one14:31
yeeveAny recommendations?14:32
TaxicletterIn fstab is only my harddrive, it says to use blkid and than I have it there:"/dev/sdc1: LABEL="MUZIK" UUID="192F-1717" TYPE="vfat"14:32
Taxicletter"14:32
ikoniadoesn't the astrix client support softphone ?14:32
yeeveikonia, I'm new to this, don't know about astrix but the windows one is 3CX,14:32
ikoniayeeve: look up astrix14:33
ikoniayeeve: see if the client does enough of what you want14:33
Pici*asterisk14:33
Condor_peregrinoikonia: I agree, how can I fix this?. How can I detect what is real problem?14:34
ikoniathanks Pici14:34
ikoniaCondor_peregrino: I'd look at the programs you are installing them. how you are installing them, then research how to setup unitys desktop to be aware of those locations14:34
yeeveCan't seem to find astrix/asterisk clients but there is a lot of recommendations for Ekiga so I'll start there14:34
hateballyeeve: what you want is a SIP client, and Ekiga is one14:35
Condor_peregrinoikonia: all the programs has been installed from Ubuntu software center, thats why I have this doubts. They should be installed correctly with no problem or not?14:35
BluesKajTaxicletter, for example here's my outboard sata drive entry in /etc/fstab : UUID=b56bb1a6-e887-4383-aaeb-e9ad50d34f47 /media/kaj  ext4  defaults  0    114:35
yeeveI see hateball thanks for the clarification :) pretty new to this stuff14:35
Condor_peregrinoikonia: should I use my SSD for all the programs and the storage on the HDD?14:35
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Condor_peregrinoikonia: both disks are encrypted14:35
Taxicletter@BluesKaj this is what mount gives about that drive: /dev/sdc1 on /media/jonathan/MUZIK type vfat (ro,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,showexec,utf8,flush,errors=remount-ro,uhelper=udisks2)14:36
hateballyeeve: and well, your voip solution needs to use standards of course, so you dont in fact have to use some combo of a particular proprietary client14:36
ikoniaCondor_peregrino: you don't normally get a choice the installer will install in common locations (eg: /usr/bin) it's up to you if you use the ssd for that or not14:37
BluesKajTaxicletter,, use sudo blkid for the UUID of your drive14:37
yeeveI thought as much hateball but I had to try the windows client first to please management, it does't work so now I'll look for a native linux client which will fit our needs. Do you have any recommendations? Ekiga has poor reviews in SoftCent but I'm still happy to try it out14:37
TaxicletterI did, I already posted that: /dev/sdc1: LABEL="MUZIK" UUID="192F-1717" TYPE="vfat"14:38
BluesKajthat's not a UUID m use blkid for it14:39
hateballyeeve: Not really, I've mostly used Ekiga. Just try it and see if  it goes well14:40
yeeveOk hateball I will do :thumbs-up:14:40
Condor_peregrinoikonia: perfect14:41
TaxicletterBluesKaj, this is the complete output of blkid: ~$ blkid14:41
Taxicletter~$ blkid14:41
BluesKajsudo blkid14:41
TaxicletterHm, it doesn't paste14:41
BluesKaj!pastebin14:42
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:42
Taxicletter!pastebin14:42
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:42
Condor_peregrinoikonia: I have detected the error, how can I send you an image through here?14:43
Condor_peregrinoikonia: pastebin is for terminal but images?14:43
Taxiclettersudo blkid14:43
BluesKajCondor_peregrino, imgur14:44
EriC^^Condor_peregrino: imgur.com14:44
TaxicletterEven line for line it doesn't paste? I don't know pastebin, I try it14:44
BluesKajTaxicletter, sudo blkid in the terminal14:45
Taxicletteryes I know, and sudo or not, it gives the same result.14:45
Taxicletterfor the other drives, i see a partuuid, but not for the usb drive, that only has a uuid14:46
EriC^^Taxicletter: what doesn't paste14:46
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TaxicletterIf I copy line per line from my terminal window, it seems to dissappear when I hit "enter" in HexChat.14:46
BluesKajTaxicletter, lsusb14:46
TaxicletterBus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub14:47
TaxicletterBus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub14:47
TaxicletterBus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub14:47
TaxicletterBus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub14:47
TaxicletterBus 001 Device 011: ID 357d:7788 Sharkoon QuickPort XT14:47
TaxicletterBus 001 Device 005: ID 0dbf:021b Jess-Link International USB-2.0 IDE Adapter14:47
BluesKajTaxicletter, that's why I suggested pastebin, to prevent flooding14:48
EriC^^Taxicletter: you don't need to put it to fstab unless you plan on using it all the time and having it automount and stuff14:49
TaxicletterOops. Sorry BluesKaj14:49
TaxicletterOkay, but how come I can't write to it anymore, suddenly?14:49
TaxicletterI'm the owner, I can see, and I have read and write permissions.14:50
EriC^^Taxicletter: you mounted via something with elevated privileges probably14:50
TaxicletterOnly the GROUP I'm in (same name as my user name) has only read permissions.14:50
EriC^^touch /media/jonathan/MUZIK/blablatest14:50
TaxicletterI unmounted and re-mounted in, but that didn't help14:50
EriC^^Taxicletter: try "ls -ld /media/jonathan/MUZIK", what's it say?14:51
TaxicletterIt says: drwxr-xr-x 37 jonathan jonathan 32768 jan  1  1970 /media/jonathan/MUZIK14:52
EriC^^ok, type "id"14:52
TaxicletterHm, that date is strange, no?14:52
EriC^^yeah, it's epoch date14:53
TaxicletterUID=1000(jonathan) GID=1000(jonathan) groepen=1000(jonathan),0(root),2(bin),3(sys),4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),25(floppy),26(tape),27(sudo),30(dip),37(operator),44(video),46(plugdev),50(staff),107(crontab),113(lpadmin),115(nopasswdlogin),128(sambashare)14:53
EriC^^maybe it just uses it as a filler14:53
EriC^^wow that's a *ton of stuff14:53
TaxicletterI tried to get me in every possible group, but I'm not finished yet, it's to many groups.14:53
EriC^^what for?14:53
TaxicletterI tried that to solve the writing problem14:53
TaxicletterI like linux a lot, but I go crazy from the permission stuff.14:54
EriC^^ok, try "touch /media/jonathan/MUZIK/blablatest"14:54
TaxicletterNothing happens?14:54
Sam54Taxicletter take a look at chmod and chown14:55
Taxicletteryes, theres a new file in MUZIK14:55
EriC^^Taxicletter: that means it worked, try "ls -l /media/jonathan/MUZIK/blablatest"14:55
EriC^^Taxicletter: ok, so you can write then14:55
Taxicletter-rw-r--r-- 1 jonathan jonathan 0 feb 28 15:54 /media/jonathan/MUZIK/blablatest14:55
EriC^^ok, try copying the music over14:56
TaxicletterNope. Still get the error message: read only14:58
TaxicletterRestart the whole computer maybe?14:58
EriC^^Taxicletter: what command are you running?14:58
EriC^^no14:58
TaxicletterI'm dragging the folder from my dropbox-folder to the MUZIK drive.14:58
TaxicletterI could sudo Thunar and then try again.14:59
EriC^^in thunar can you create a random file?14:59
Taxiclettersudo thunar did work. but WHY is this happening? I could drag files and folders to MUZIK with no problem, and suddenly not anymore...15:01
dylanhola15:01
EriC^^Taxicletter: when you do just "thunar /media/jonathan/MUZIK"15:01
EriC^^what happens?15:01
TaxicletterThen MUZIK opens (that's handy! thanks, good to know)15:03
condorperegrinioguys the error is this: https://imgur.com/a/iMgco15:07
condorperegriniohow can I fix it?15:07
ikevincondorperegrinio, when doing what?15:07
ikevincondorperegrinio, if you read the message, you know what do to to fix it15:08
ducassecondorperegrinio: read what it says under 'the package system is broken'15:08
EriC^^Taxicletter: can you create a random file?15:09
ikevin"it say me 'click here' what can i do"? :x15:09
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TaxicletterI don't know what you mean. I can make an openoffice document ?15:10
ikevinTaxicletter, touch <file>15:10
Taxicletterah15:11
Taxicletteryep, that worked (like before in the MUZIK folder)15:11
CarlyGuys where to I go to get some help I forget15:18
ikoniahelp with that ?15:19
EriC^^Taxicletter: no i mean like right click new document15:19
TaxicletterEriC^^ yes that works15:20
CarlyI created a bootable drive to put and E64 Ubuntu 16.04 on my computer and somehow it ended up just being the shell now all I have is a black screen with the command line that doesn't seem to like me very much and it definitely will not give me anything I can't do a sudo command because it keeps coming back with a failed attempt to fetch archives15:24
CarlyI'm not extremely experienced so any help would be much appreciated15:24
CarlyAll of the errors are saying temporary failure resolving us.archive.ubuntu.co15:25
RxMcDonaldHello, anyone can help me increase the amount of Ubuntu inside of my CPU?15:26
BluesKajCarly, try the recovery kernel, and enable networking when the menu shows up, then sudo update && sudo upgrade15:27
blockyRxMcDonald: have you tried a hammer and chisel?15:27
ducasseRxMcDonald: this isn't going to suddenly turn funny just because you keep trying15:27
CarlyBlueskaj how do I address you and my message again I forget? Also I have no idea what the recovery kernel is I'm just looking at literally a black terminal page so what would I type in first15:29
BluesKajCarly, sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade rather15:30
tatertotsRxMcDonald: open terminal15:30
EriC^^Carly: you installed ubuntu then you started the pc and got a black screen?15:30
BluesKajCarly, did you see a bootloader with ubuntus listed, it's called grub15:30
TaxicletterThanks for the help BluesKaj and EriC^^ I have to go now, see you later maybe!15:31
RxMcDonaldtatertots: Yes I'm on the computer right now15:31
EriC^^Taxicletter: no problem, see ya15:31
CarlyBlueskaj I did this you don't have to update and Sue to apt upgrade and I keep getting the errors it's failing to fetch the u.s. archives it says temporary failure resolving us.archive.ubuntu15:31
Carly.com15:31
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filt3rhello, where can i get previouse kernel versions of the ubuntu kernel? i need to reproduce a bug which was on the "4.4.0-31-generic #50-Ubuntu" kernel.15:31
CarlyYeah grub was installed15:31
CarlyNot necessarily a black screen but it had me log in and it's just a terminal screen there is no Ubuntu desktop or anything else it's just Bare Bones and I wanted to install the whole thing15:32
EriC^^Carly: which iso did you download?15:32
nicomachusCarly: do you not have a DE installed?15:32
tatertotsRxMcDonald: in terminal>   sudo apt install inxi pastebinit15:32
CarlyUbuntu server 16.0415:32
tatertotsRxMcDonald: let me know when its done15:32
EriC^^Carly: server is without gui15:33
ducassetatertots: please don't feed the troll15:33
xhearthi everyone15:33
xheartif i have ubuntu 16.04 can i also install kubuntu?15:33
BluesKajCarly, no desktop with the server edition15:33
CarlyNicomachus how do I address you in my.msg I forget how to do that15:33
CarlyNot quite sure with a de is15:33
nicomachusCarly: you just did.15:33
RxMcDonaldtatertots: I am not a computer engineer15:34
nicomachusit's a desktop environment. The GUI.15:34
nicomachusRxMcDonald: please just leave.15:34
CarlyIsn't there an easier way?15:34
BluesKajdesktop environment =de15:34
nicomachusCarly: you have a terminal now, right?15:34
CarlyOkay well if there is no desktop then how can I get it on there via the server and why am I getting all these issues yes I have the terminal open right now but I'm getting errors after errors15:34
nicomachusCarly: easy peasy: sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop15:35
CarlyI tried to connect to Wi-Fi again  but it didn't work15:35
BluesKajCarly, you have no internet connection to the repositories15:35
nicomachusxheart: yes, you just have to install kde15:35
nicomachusxheart: and then remove unity, if you want.15:35
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xheartis kubuntu a more complete OS than Lubuntu?15:36
nicomachusneither is more "complete" than the other. They are the same OS with different desktop environments.15:37
CarlyNicomachus again I am only getting failed to fetch some archives maybe run apt get update or try with --fix-mssiing15:37
nicomachusCarly: you're going to need an internet connection.15:37
CarlyIt had me set up the internet on initial.boot15:37
k1lxheart: lubuntus target is slow and old hardware. so its reduced some services15:37
xheartok so kubuntu is better?15:38
ducassexheart: 'better' is subjective15:38
CarlyBlueskaj how do I get the error of unable to fetch archives fixed15:38
xheartgot it15:39
CarlyNicomachus I have one15:39
CarlyInternet is gtg15:39
CarlyShould I hard wire?15:39
k1lxheart: if you do like kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu, ubuntu mate, ubuntu budgie etc. more, its your choice.15:39
EriC^^Carly: sure15:40
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EriC^^Carly: try to set the internet up and be able to ping google.com15:40
CarlyHow do I ping from terminal15:41
nicomachus`ping`15:41
EriC^^ping google.com'15:41
CarlyUnknown host google.com15:41
EriC^^Carly: try ping 8.8.8.815:41
CarlyConnect: network is unreachable15:42
CarlyHard wire it is15:42
EriC^^Carly: did you put an ethernet cable in?15:42
CarlyRight?15:42
EriC^^Carly: well you could do wifi too15:43
CarlyNo give me two seconds have to relocate15:43
EriC^^ok15:43
SwamiDevaNiravoCarly: if the internet cable is plug on pc, you have to nano /etc/resolv.conf and put the nameserver (dns) here15:43
BluesKajCarly, if you setup a wifi connection during the installation , it's obviously no connected now , so use an ethernet connection if possible (hard wired)15:43
tatertotsCarly: hard wire the system, and really give some thought to if you really require ubuntu "server"...sounds like you'd be very dependent on a gui15:43
BluesKajCarly, you can install ubuntu-dektop on the server editon , it will work just fine15:45
BluesKajerr desktop15:45
CarlyBlueskaj I'm hard wired in now and things look no good....Keep getting the failed to fetch error15:46
BluesKajCarly, sudo dhclient15:47
SwamiDevaNiravoCarly: ifconfig , and see the ip address. is it right ?15:47
SwamiDevaNiravoCarly: are you on the irc on the server linux ?15:47
Carly.Blueskaj nothing happens15:48
EriC^^Carly: try ping 8.8.8.8 now15:48
CarlyI downloaded the iso to a bootable USB and ended up with just his terminal that keeps giving me errors15:48
BluesKajCarly,o r try sudo apt update15:48
tatertotsCarly: hard wire the system, and really give some thought to if you really require ubuntu "server"...sounds like you'd be very dependent on a gui AND network manager15:48
CarlyAll I wanted was the regular desktop I have no idea how to fix this now15:49
SwamiDevaNiravofirst the internet has tested15:49
BluesKajlooks like we have too many cooks as well15:49
CarlyBlueskaj it worked15:49
CarlyPing worked15:50
pavloscan you ping google.com now?15:50
CarlyHangon15:50
BluesKajok now sudo apt upgrade , once the update finishes15:50
CarlyIt's not stopping with the first ping15:50
filt3rok i figured it out :)15:50
EriC^^Carly: ctrl+c15:50
SwamiDevaNiravoapt upgrade goes upgrade the server files, without gui15:50
CarlyCool15:50
pavlospress ctrl c to stop the ping15:50
CarlyPing to google worked15:51
pavlosgood ... follow what others wrote, sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade15:51
BluesKajCarly, after the upgrade, sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop15:51
CarlyIt's working!!15:51
pavlosyeah15:52
vltHello. I'm connecting to an Ubuntu 16.04 machine via xrdp. How can I let this session appear in the output of`who` or `last`?15:52
SwamiDevaNiravoCarly : apt-get install kdebase kde-standard15:52
CarlyLove I love you guys you are the best and so smart hopefully one day I will have as much knowledge of these systems as you15:52
BluesKajCarly, did you want KDE/Plasma desktop ?15:53
CarlyI went with Ubuntu desktop15:53
CarlyIt's working15:53
SwamiDevaNiravoubuntu has gnome,kde,mate,xfce15:54
CarlyOnce this is done what should I do after that15:54
CarlyShould I reboot15:55
EriC^^Carly: sudo apt full-upgrade15:55
SwamiDevaNiravoi'd choose kde to begginers users15:55
EriC^^Carly: then yeah reboot15:55
CarlySweet ok15:55
BluesKajCarly, if you're a former windows user KDE/Plasma desktop will look more familiar than Ubuntu/Unity desktop15:55
CarlySwamidevaniravo...I am szwedo beginner as I have Ubuntu desktop on all of my computer's and I'm trying to really kind of teach myself about it15:56
BluesKajok Carly , ubuntu-dektop it is then15:56
SwamiDevaNiravoCarly: apt-get install mate-archive-keyring    ( to install mate desktop )15:57
CarlyWow guys thanks again I have no clue what happened there. If you know what I may have done wrong or what happened and care to share with me so that I can learn and I would greatly appreciate it otherwise thanks again guys it means a lot15:57
SwamiDevaNiravoCarly: apt-get install mate-core15:57
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BluesKajSwamiDevaNiravo, ??15:58
SwamiDevaNiravomate desktop15:58
BluesKajjust leave it for now, SwamiDevaNiravo15:58
CarlySwamidevaniravo what is mate core I'm almost done installing Ubuntu desktop15:58
SwamiDevaNiravohe knowns15:58
k1lCarly: mate is another desktop15:59
SwamiDevaNiravokeep this way then15:59
nicomachusSwamiDevaNiravo: please don't over-complicate things...15:59
BluesKajCarly, mate is a different desktop, no point changing horses in midstream here15:59
pavlosCarly, another ubuntu flavor, see http://ubuntu-mate.org/15:59
OerHeksSwamiDevaNiravo, 'mate-archive-keyring' is a faulty package, it does not exist dude16:00
SwamiDevaNiravorepository dude16:00
OerHeksSwamiDevaNiravo, get your facts right, it does not exist in the ubuntu repos. mate-core and mate-desktop do, btw16:01
SwamiDevaNiravothen he can does16:01
yakizaHEllo everyone i just update my kernel in ubuntu 16.04 and   i am stuck in a login loop what should i do i am from my phone atm i try to   do this  chown username:username .Xauthority but it didnt worked16:02
EriC^^yakiza: does the guest account work?16:02
yakizano  both of my acc i cant go in it just restarts the log in16:02
yakizaand btw now my  log in page has a black border arround16:03
k1lyakiza: try guest account on login to see if its a user setting of that real users.16:03
EriC^^yakiza: try "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999"16:03
k1lyakiza: if the guestaccount doesnt work, too, then reboot and user an older kernel on grub menu16:04
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yakizaEriC^^:  i dont have internet16:07
yakizak1l:   it doesnt work but i need a newer kernel16:07
yakizak1l cause my old kernel doesnt support some things in my hardware16:07
EriC^^yakiza: try booting with the older kernel from grub16:07
yakizano  let me try16:08
EriC^^yakiza: do you have nvidia?16:08
yakizayes16:08
k1lyakiza: you said it worked before you did "some update".16:08
bonsaitreeAny documentation on how to *properly* modify the sources.list? Let's say i want to add a faster server and remove the default one.16:08
yakizak1l no it worked before i updated my kernel16:08
k1lyakiza:  so boot to that working kernel. so16:08
yakizahow can i enter grub enu?16:08
k1l*we can manage the failure16:09
yakizathanks16:09
yakizak1l how can i enter to the grub ?16:09
k1lyakiza: press lef shift on bootup. or esc. that depends on the mainboard settings16:09
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BluesKajleft shift right after the logo page16:11
yakizaokay16:11
yakizak1l i logged in from older kernel16:13
k1lyakiza: that works again?16:14
yakizak1l my pc oppend normally it works16:14
yakizabut i need to upgrade to a newer kernel maybe i messed up the upgrade could you guide me ?16:14
k1lyakiza: "cat /var/log/apt/term.log | nc termbin.com 9999"16:15
k1lyakiza: what do you mean with "i need to upgrade to a newer kernel" and what did you do?16:15
uskerinehi, how can I install this package: https://nightly.odoo.com/extra/16:16
Pranayamahe needs a newer kernel to enable hardware16:16
uskerineI have previously done this: wget -O - https://nightly.odoo.com/odoo.key | apt-key add -16:16
uskerine# echo "deb http://nightly.odoo.com/10.0/nightly/deb/ ./" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/odoo.list16:16
yakizai cannot  do that because my ethernet cart doesnt work thats why i am upgrading to a newer kernel  , because i bought a new msi motherboard i found out that the current version of my kernel doesnt support my ethernet card so i have to upgrade it i did try to upgrade it but  you saw that i got a log in loop16:16
yakizak1l16:16
k1lyakiza: what kernel are you on now "uname -a" will tell you, and what kernel did you install?16:17
yakiza4.4.016:18
yakiza-6216:18
Pranayamayakiza, which network card do you have?16:20
yakizaaeroth something it is because of kernel cause in ubuntu 16.10 that uses newer kernel my ethernet card works16:20
Pranayamayakiza : do you known the command MODPROBE ?16:21
yakizaPranayama:  no i am not really experienced with linux16:21
Pranayamamodprobe loads a driver of a card without compile the kernel16:22
k1lyakiza: did you make a new install?16:22
OerHeksyakiza, why don't you start with the 16.10??16:22
yakizai did this16:22
yakizahttp://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/install-linux-kernel-4-6-ubuntu-16-04/16:22
bonsaitreeWhy the *main* software repository is not present in the sources.list file? I have restricted, universe and multiverse, but *main* is not present. Thanks in advance.16:22
k1lthat is a bad howto.16:23
yakizacause    i have loads of things installed and i need my internet cause i have  some deadlines for 2 of my projects comming up and i dont have time to set up  a new system16:23
k1lyakiza: ubuntu ships the 4.8 kernel from 16.10 in the official repos.16:23
X_asdasdAny way to install google chrome on 32-bit lubuntu ?16:23
yakizak1l here ? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.10-rc1/16:23
k1lbonsaitree: maybe you clicked that away in the system settings?16:24
k1lyakiza: no, that is the mainline kernel. they are missing a lot of ubuntu service16:24
OerHeksyakiza, curious, how did you install any software if you needed a newer kernel for networking, and that kernel never worked??16:24
k1l!hwe | yakiza16:24
ubottuyakiza: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack16:24
ducasseX_asdasd: try chromium instead16:24
charlie_sandersX_asdasd, sure16:24
k1lX_asdasd: there is no 32bit chrome anymore.16:24
X_asdasdohh shiit :/16:25
yakizaOerHeks:  i just changed my motherboard i didnt install anything i changed motherboard see that  ethernet doesnt work research i saw that it was kernels problem and i download with y phone the new kernel to install16:25
yakizaubottu:   but i have to download  it i cant do it like this cause my machine doesnt have intent16:27
ubottuyakiza: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:27
yakizak1l what do you mean !hwe?16:28
k1lyakiza: see the bots message and link. there is a backports kernel from 16.10 to 16.04 that has support by ubuntu.16:28
yakizak1l i checked it but i am kind of confused16:29
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ducasseyakiza: you can tether your phone to get an internet connection, then install the hwe packages16:30
yakizak1l dont i nned to download .deb files?16:30
yakizaducasse tehter?16:31
ducasseyakiza: connect with usb cable16:31
yakizaducasse:    i download the files to my phone then i pass it to my pc with usb i just dotn understand what  file to download16:32
ioriayakiza, we told you weeks ago to install 16.10 . why you haven't done that ? now you need to reboot on the that 4.6 kernel, and if ethernet works, install from the console the 16.10 kernel and xorg (maybe first purge your nvidia)16:33
yakizaioria i know man  well reall life reasons no time...   i purged nvidia i just need to install newer kernel16:34
bismarki want to install openstack using conjure-up, but i want to do it using a 300 GB partition16:34
yakizaioria i just dont have time to set up new system i have some deadlines close...16:34
ioriayakiza, reboot on 4.6 .... on that network works, right ?16:34
bonsaitreek1l:Isn't the *main* software repository the most important one which brings you the updates directly from Canonical? I think i haven't clicked that away, are you able to help me get that back?16:34
bismarkwhere should i have to mount that partition?16:34
yakizai dont have 4.616:34
yakizai just have 4.416:34
ioriayakiza, sorry, haven't you install another kernel from mainline ppa ?16:35
ioria*ed16:35
yakizai installed 4.10 but i get stuck in log in loop16:35
yakizaioria16:35
ioriayakiza, can you boot with that kernel from grub ?16:36
naccbonsaitree: main doesn't get updates, generally, fwiw -- it's the release archive, though16:36
yakizayes give me a sec ioria16:36
ioriayakiza, if yes, just open a console16:36
yakizaok16:36
naccbonsaitree: 'main' just refers to the supported-ness of packages, technically16:36
nacc!components | bonsaitree16:37
ubottubonsaitree: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.16:37
yakizaioria i am in16:38
bonsaitreenacc:Thanks16:38
ioriayakiza, ping www.google.com16:38
k1lbonsaitree: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999" and show that link here16:39
yakiza1ioria i can ping16:40
ioriayakiza, ok, so we want to install the 16.10 kernel and xorg ?16:41
yakiza1ioria yes but i dont want to loose filea16:41
yakiza1ioria if i can only upgrade just the kernel would be so nice16:42
ioriayakiza, no, you can't upgrade ... you need to install a different package16:42
k1lthe hwe stack, to be precisse16:42
ioriayakiza, linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.0416:42
yakiza1i write w gwt to that? ioria16:43
yakiza1wget16:43
k1lyakiza1: no, not wget16:43
ioriayakiza, wait, first purge nvidia   sudo apt purge nvidia16:43
ioriayakiza, wait, first purge nvidia   sudo apt purge nvidia*16:43
yakiza1ioria but nvidia in 16.04 works fine should i do it anyway? ioria16:44
k1lyakiza1: use apt to install official pacakges. "sudo apt install packagename" so it loads it from the repos and installs it.16:44
ioriayakiza, how did you install nvidia ?16:44
ioriayakiza, from ppa , from the official repo ?16:45
yakiza1from linux proprietary drivera i had done it with wifi usb16:45
ioriayakiza, f16:45
yakiza1ioria f?16:45
ioriayakiza, if you ask me, you need to unistall that16:45
ioriayakiza, if you want we can proced anyways16:46
yakiza1ok ok so i purge nvidia? i am just frustrated ioria16:46
ioriayakiza, you used the nvidia installer ?16:46
yakiza1no i went to additional drivers and from there i selected the ones i need and it worked16:47
ioriayakiza, ok...   sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.0416:48
yakiza1i will do what you say i purged nvidia now ? ioria16:48
ioriayakiza, we'll see later run this,      sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.0416:48
Islamabadis this chat online for question about ubuntu, or people can talk about everything ?16:51
k1lIslamabad: its the technical ubuntu support channel.16:51
Southern_Gentlemubuntu enduser support16:51
Islamabadthank you16:52
yakiza1ioria ok done16:53
ioriayakiza, already done ?16:53
yakiza1yes16:53
ioriayakiza, so, reboot (from grub) with the 4.8.0.xx kernel16:54
ioriayakiza, sudo reboot16:54
yakiza1ok16:55
ioriayakiza, you probably need to enter 'Advanced Options'16:55
yakiza1ioria i i love you17:00
egonsenhi. systemd does not start lightdm (ubuntu 16.10). it shows the black/white login screen (tty). when i login there andn enter "$ sudo lightdm", lightdm is started normally. how can i solve this? i want lightdm to start after boot17:00
ioriayakiza, it's ok, mate ?17:00
yakiza1yes i am in17:00
ioriayakiza, good job, but now you need to remove (purge) that 4.10 kernel17:01
ioriayakiza, dpkg -l | grep linux-image | grep ii | pastebinit17:01
ioriayakiza, or    dpkg -l | grep linux-image | grep ii | nc termbin.com 999917:02
jarlathI want to play audio from my Ubuntu laptop directly through discourse (as a user). I've tried the bot but the installer fails on x64 (I've tried loads of workarounds). Does anyone have this working on 16.04 or know a way to get it to work? Alternatively, something like Virtual Audio Cable for windows would work.17:02
k1legonsen: what happened before? did you change anything?17:02
egonsenk1l, i cannot remember. i think i changed something many weeks ago (the last time i used ubuntu)17:05
k1legonsen: changed what? like setting the boot to multiuser.target?17:05
yakizaioria http://termbin.com/ve6617:05
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egonsenalso when i try to "$ sudo systemctl enable lightdm.service", i get: The unit files have no installation config (WantedBy, RequiredBy, Also, Alias17:05
egonsensettings in the [Install] section, and DefaultInstance for template units).17:05
ioriayakiza,  i think 4.10 is on top of the grub list,  so you'll automatically boot that... we want to remove that kernel ?17:05
yakizayes ioria17:05
ioriayakiza,  sudo apt purge linux-image-4.10.0-041000rc1-generic      and paste the errors, in case17:05
k1legonsen: "sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target"17:06
kostkonjarlath, install pavucontrol and set the monitor of your sound card as the input device for discource17:06
egonsenk1l, "$ sudo systemctl get-default" is already "graphical.target"17:07
k1legonsen: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm  #if you are running regular ubuntu which uses lightdm17:07
egonsenk1l, reconfigure will just overwrite my config, right? i'd rather understand what's going on atm to learn more about systemd17:08
yakizaioria no error17:08
ioriayakiza,  sudo update-grub17:08
k1legonsen: did you make changes to the lightdm config?17:08
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sarikahello. I want to install ubuntu along with windows 7. can someone please tell me partitions after I select "something else" while booting Ubuntu 16 .0417:08
yakizaioria http://termbin.com/o1dw17:08
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ioriayakiza,  ok,  sudo update-grub17:09
yakizahttp://termbin.com/tsp417:09
yakizai did17:09
k1legonsen: well, then you want to read all the logs you can get. use journalctl for that17:09
egonsenk1l, /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf does not seem to be changed17:09
yakizaioria just did http://termbin.com/tsp417:09
ioriayakiza,  ok,  now you should boot on the new 4.8 kernel by default17:10
yakizagreat ioria thank you so much17:10
egonsenk1l, how do i know where to start? i have to find the place where graphical.target is supposed to start lightdm, right?17:10
ioriayakiza,  no problem17:10
k1legonsen: look at the status of lightdm and why its not starting17:14
nick__hi17:39
feodoranhi, I have a problem with my displays: I have to connected an both work during boot. But once loged in one of the two shows "no signal". I tried to change settings with xrandr to dis- and reanble it, but it stays black. Only thing working so far is to go via display settings. any ideas why it looses signal in the first place? I use amdgpu driver17:46
rmanosHi all18:00
L33Tanybody up?18:10
nicomachusL33T: well it's noon here so... yea18:11
DJonesL33T: Just ask your Ubuntu support question, probably the best thing to start with18:11
DJonesL33T: If anybody knows, they'll normally help out18:11
L33TDJones: Thanks and sorry , I was quite new to all these so pardon me  :)18:12
DJonesL33T: No problem, if in doubt, you can always check the channel topic when you join, but I appreciate you're new here, just explain the issue you're having and see if anybody can help18:13
ikoniajoin #freeipa18:15
ikoniaoops18:15
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unstablevetworking with ubuntu studio and im  trying to use an hp webcam18:17
jarlathkostkon: thank you, I'll try that!18:18
unstablevetanyone out there using an hp laptop?18:19
roadrunneratwasthi.  i am on the newest version of ubuntu and am getting a problem compiling packages for vmmware  http://pastebin.com/AE6GN8tT18:21
ioriaunstablevet, not me, but you can start pasting   lsusb  output18:21
k1lunstablevet: i bet some do. but people in here can help better if there are more details. like what doesnt work exactly, what hardware etc18:22
k1lroadrunneratwast: what is the output of "lsb_release -sd"?18:22
roadrunneratwastk1l: Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS18:23
roadrunneratwasti didn't have this probelm with 16.04 before18:23
roadrunneratwasti don't think18:23
unstablevetcooper@cooper-HP-Pavilion-dv6700-Notebook-PC:~$ lsusb18:23
unstablevetBus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub18:23
unstablevetBus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub18:23
unstablevetBus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub18:23
unstablevetBus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub18:23
unstablevetBus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub18:23
unstablevetBus 004 Device 003: ID 046d:c52b Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver18:23
k1lroadrunneratwast: sorry i missread that you were not on the latest ubuntu. 16.04.2 is fine18:23
roadrunneratwastok18:23
ioriaunstablevet, not here, please  on paste.ubuntu.com18:23
roadrunneratwastany idea what the error means?18:23
k1lroadrunneratwast: what is "uname -a"?18:23
roadrunneratwastinux mitchell-ThinkPad-X230 4.8.0-36-generic #36~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Sun Feb 5 \18:24
roadrunneratwast09:39:57 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux18:24
k1lroadrunneratwast: the .2 release is not a real new release. its just like a servicepack on windows. but you can use the backports kernel and xorg witht hat.18:24
roadrunneratwastok18:24
k1lwhich you do18:24
roadrunneratwastok18:24
roadrunneratwastany idea how to fix the install?18:24
roadrunneratwastof vmware?18:24
naccroadrunneratwast: looks to be a mismatch between vmware and the kernel source18:24
roadrunneratwastok18:24
naccroadrunneratwast: probably ask vmware?18:24
roadrunneratwastok18:25
k1lroadrunneratwast: are the proper kernel headers installed?18:25
roadrunneratwasti don't know.18:26
roadrunneratwasti installed build-essential18:26
k1lroadrunneratwast: is "linux-generic-hwe-16.04" installed?18:26
roadrunneratwasti don't know. this is a new install18:26
roadrunneratwastshould i install these files?18:27
k1lnacc: i guess the hwe wiki site should link to linux-generic-hwe-16.04 and not the image meta package because that is missing the headers then18:27
k1lroadrunneratwast: please run "apt policy linux-generic-hwe-16.04 linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here18:27
nacck1l: ack, updating18:28
roadrunneratwasthttp://termbin.com/kvwh18:28
nacck1l: done, thanks!18:28
johk_waddup18:29
k1lroadrunneratwast: ok, the proper files are installed. but you need to run the updates18:29
roadrunneratwastoh18:29
johk_can somebody fix my internet connection its not working and i cant connect to internet18:30
johk_can somebody fix my internet connection its not working and i cant connect to internet18:33
johk_can somebody fix my internet connection its not working and i cant connect to internet PLZZ18:35
timypjohk could you provide more info.18:37
timypwhen did it stop working, has it ever worked, how are you connected to the innet18:38
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OerHekstimyp, he is gone18:38
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timypOerHeks its not working can you help me?18:43
timypI mean I'm not gonna provide any other info than that you will just have to fix it... lol18:44
AurorasauraQuick question. if you add a hard drive to lvm from windows with data on it will the data be lost?18:48
intenseis it possible to use ubuntu netboot to PXEboot with the desktop installer rather than the server installer?18:49
BetaSoulAny one gotten the defeault VNC viewer to connect to the most recent raspbian pixel vnc?18:58
shazzræWeird thing. Just reinstalled a laptop running debi. Now xubuntu. I can log into my raspberry pi via ssh and use norwegian characters as before. The only issue is that in irssi the æøå does not wor.19:02
shazzror...it appears not to work. I see them in the above statment, but not while I am typing....'æøå...19:02
arooniquestion; when the caps lock key flashes on my t420 laptop running 16.04; that means kernel panic?  nothing can be done to recover?  this seems to happen after every other resume from suspend.  i have 8gb of ram and 9 gb of swap so not sure why its not working... :(19:03
rodolfobuonasera19:05
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ubuntlyhi19:18
ubuntlySo I tried to use user "admin" in Ubuntu setup - but it is denied as a reserved username.19:19
ubuntlyI can create an user admin later though - and there are no negative effects...19:19
ubuntlyso this is more a relict/purist thing?19:19
Piciubuntly: its likely because there is already an admin group, and it doesn't want you to mess with that.19:20
scottjlbecause there already is an "admin" account19:20
PiciUsers in the admin group are the ones who are allowed to use the sudo command.19:20
ubuntlyright19:20
ubuntlyand exactly that I want19:21
ubuntlywell, I will pick a different user name then19:21
ubuntlywhat is a good username for the "normal" user in Ubuntu setup - except admin of course?19:21
ubuntly"notroot"? :D19:21
scottjltheir name19:21
Piciubuntly: Your first user already gets put into the admin group.19:21
ubuntlyI want it more generic19:21
scottjluser ?19:21
ubuntlyhmm, user, why not19:21
ubuntlybut that user is in admin group19:21
ubuntlyso it is an important user19:21
ubuntlysudouser?19:21
ubuntlysuperuser?19:21
Piciits up to you.19:22
ubuntlysuser?19:22
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elias_aubuntly: Use "dickhead" or "totalmess". Nobody wants to use those accounts without real need. :P19:22
scottjluseraccount, someuser, generic19:22
scottjlthough if this is a multi-user system, you really ought to use real names19:22
w9qbjpick a name not close the the namespace for administratiors of any app. make to be less confusing19:23
ubuntlyelias_a: right,I will use admin as sudo user - later then when the server is provisioned after setup.19:24
BluesKajoh lord, just use a derivative of your own name19:24
ubuntlyok19:24
unstablevetcan anyone help an ubuntu studio with a hp pavilion dv6000 access the webcam19:24
w9qbjthere is already many *admin* users, groups, directories( folders) and processes.19:24
w9qbjwhy make life dificult19:25
ubuntlyOK, so summarize this: The Normal user account created by Ubuntu Setup is also able to sudo by default, is that right?19:25
scottjlyes19:26
k1lubuntly: yes.19:26
ubuntlythanks.19:26
k1lubuntly: and every new user beeing put in the sudo group can use sudo too.19:26
scottjlthe normal user account created by setup is given admin priviledges because you have to start out with someone being admin.19:26
ubuntlyright19:26
ubuntlyI could even delete that user after the setup and add my own crazy user stuff?19:27
ubuntlygood19:27
scottjlbecause ubuntu locks direct root login by default19:27
Ben64ubuntly: but why19:27
scottjlif you delete that use without setting up another account with admin you will basically lock yourself out of admin19:27
ubuntlyBen64: because the server will be provisioned automatically, admin, users are added with keys, etc19:27
ubuntlyI just want the setup to be over :)19:27
ubuntlyI will call it "suser" now :O19:28
ubuntlyhurra19:28
ubuntlybtw, the ubuntu setup is quite nice :D19:35
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RestingSmileautomatic spam protection? in MY freenode?19:43
ubuntlywtf lol19:43
ubuntlyI found it somehow funny XD19:43
baizonno, it was just stupid19:43
ubuntlyOK, it is intended that the Ubuntu setup doesn't ask me for a root password - because I should use that user to sudo/su to root, right?19:44
k1lubuntly: yes19:44
k1l!root | ubuntly19:44
ubottuubuntly: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo19:44
ubuntlyah, much better19:44
ubuntlythe first I always did (in older debians) was to get rid of root for a sudo user :) then it makes sense19:44
k1lthis is a basic concept of ubuntu.19:45
OerHeksgenius hack, that is.19:45
andreas_buuh EFnet #trading19:46
ppedroSPAM - Because I'm too retarded to communicate otherwise.19:48
nicomachus!language19:48
ubottuPlease avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList19:48
ppedrothanks love19:48
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ppedroi wast just apeing the fellow who spammed here before :P19:49
OerHeksppedro, don't make fun of lonely people.19:49
OerHeks:-D19:49
ppedro:D19:49
OerHekslets move on with support.19:49
ppedroyou are right, sorry19:49
ubuntlynow I decided to user "superuser" instead "suser" - it looks better19:50
ppedroseems like youre solving some big problems19:51
BluesKajit's not as if he called some one else by that pc-incorrect word19:51
ppedroI am not so experienced with Unix, but I find it silly to disable root and just have sudo ;i19:53
k1lppedro: even windows made something similar with their admin setup. its not a silly approach19:54
nicomachusppedro: commentary not necessary.19:54
ppedro:D thanks k1l and nicomachus19:54
ppedroIt was more a conversation opener19:54
Th3_ghostppedro: is not silly, it is for security19:54
ppedroTh3_ghost: security in what sense?19:54
scottjlppedro: it's to foster better security habits. one should avoid logging directly in as root if possible.19:54
tgm4883also, this channel isn't for conversation. That would be #ubuntu-discuss19:54
ppedroI mean, if you have a root account (with the same password) and a sudo account (<- with the same password), what is the gain in security?19:55
ppedrotgm4883: ah, the hierarchy has beaten me, bye bye.19:55
dannyLopezCan help me with a DB problem?19:56
tgm4883dannyLopez: not unless you tell us the problem...19:56
Th3_ghostppedro: to protect yourself running scripts that can destroy your system or do rm -rf /19:56
tgm4883Th3_ghost: he's gone19:57
dannyLopezJajaja tgm4883 I think the support is only in Ubuntu. :O19:57
scottjltgm: can't discuss in here but can solve database issues?19:57
tgm4883scottjl: well this is a support channel...19:58
Th3_ghostso what can we do here?19:58
Toggi3Ubuntu, because some of us live in a Debian world and want long term releases, and either don't have the luxury of using, or do not wish to use, red hat and co. ;p19:58
Toggi3though Debian has an LTS channel now right?19:58
tgm4883Toggi3: off topic19:58
Toggi3I wonder how that is to actually run in enterprise19:58
Toggi3no general discussion?19:59
naccToggi3: no19:59
tgm4883Toggi3: there's a discussion channel for that19:59
tgm4883!ot19:59
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:59
dannyLopezEstoy instalando dhis2 y hay una línea que dice: "createuser -SDRP dhis" cuando pongo la contraseña me dice que el rol dhis ya existe. ¿Cómo puedo eliminar ese rol?19:59
dannyLopezI am installing dhis2 and there is a line that says: "createuser -SDRP dhis" when I put the password tells me that the dhis role already exists. How can I remove this role?19:59
Toggi3appreciate it tgm488319:59
unstablevetcan anyone help with hp webcam issues?20:00
geniiTh3_ghost, Toggi3 This channel's purpose is to assist Ubunt users who are having technical support issues. As tgm4883 indicates, we have an offtopic channel for non-support discussion20:00
Th3_ghostgenii: okay :)20:00
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tgm4883dannyLopez: you'll probably have to reach out to the DHIS2 people for that since it's a unique package that not a lot of people run, and it's not even in the repositories20:02
dannyLopezBut the comand is not of the program.20:03
ubuntlyhi20:03
ubuntlyMy hoster only offers Ubuntu 14.04 ISO - can I easily upgrade to 16.04? Fresh installation, so there is not much to be migrated?20:03
dannyLopezI mean, exist any way to delet a rol created whit createuser -SDRP dhis20:04
tgm4883dannyLopez: ah it's a postgres db command20:04
ubuntlyWhen I upgrade a fresh 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS, there won't be a performance penalty because the apt package manager handles all this usually perfectly?20:05
scottjlubuntly: a 14.04->16.04 upgrade is not equal to a fresh 16.04 install. but it's close.20:06
ubuntlyscottjl: why not equal? what will be different? more clutter?20:07
scottjlyes20:07
geniiubuntly: If you have many PPAs it can be a pain, depending on what they are20:07
scottjlbut there is nothing wrong with running a 14.04 lts install right now.20:07
scottjlgenii: he said a fresh install20:08
geniiscottjl: Ah, missed that :)20:09
scottjlubuntly: you have about 2 more years of support for 14.04 lts.20:09
geniiubuntly: Fresh install 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS upgrade rarely gives problems20:09
ubuntlyI see20:10
ubuntlyok, I found my hoster also offers a minimal image with 16.04 - it is not a clean install but it will only contain minimal packages20:11
ubuntlythat's what I want20:11
ubuntlyotherwise the ansible provisioning will fail because there are already packages in place that can't be just removed20:11
mario__Hello, can I ask a question of Ubuntu? I'm a new user..20:12
OerHekshi mario__, shoot!20:12
geniimario__: Yes, just state your question and someone should reply20:12
ubuntlyso Ubuntu Landscape offers kernel upgrading without restart, right? Among some other auto upgrade stuff?20:13
mario__Maybe this question has been asked a lot, I'm learning now. I have an old netbook with An ATOM processor, 1GB of RAM, and I am trying to guess which version of Linux or Ubuntu is better to install on this device20:13
OerHeksubuntly, yes, live patching, but the kernel only20:13
ubuntlyOerHeks: and this live patching costs money at some scale because the Landscape team has to prepare the normal Linux kernel upgrade for a live upgrade?20:14
mario__I am thinking on MATE, but I'm not sure if it's the best option. Thanks in advance.20:14
OerHeksmario__, xubuntu/mate or lightweight Lubuntu/openbox20:14
ubuntlyOerHeks: or is there some proprietary, non opensource tech involved?20:14
ubuntly>> Why does Landscape service cost? Could one prepare the linux kernel upgrades also with an opensource tool (also taking the risks ofc)?20:16
OerHeksubuntly, yes, it is a canonical prop thingy, Dustin wrote a nice Q&A http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/10/canonical-livepatch.html20:16
mario__I will try xubuntu/mate then, thank you a lot guys :)20:16
lol768I'm pretty sure it just uses kpatch20:16
OerHekssee "Q: How does this compare to Oracle Ksplice, RHEL Live Patching and SUSE Live Patching?"20:16
ubuntlyand there are no OpenSource LivePatches now? :)20:16
OerHekskslice, but unsupported AFAIK20:17
ubuntlyI see20:17
ubuntlyprobably too much to invest for a truly opensource solution20:17
ubuntlymaybe when the kernel team itself decides to make one?20:17
dannyLopeztgm4883: Yes, is a postgres db20:17
stratocastorNMHello everybody!20:19
ZeptoByteHello :) I really need help getting grub2 to work again.. Can someone help me?20:22
diogenes_ZeptoByte, what's wrong with your grub?20:24
ZeptoByteI moved the ubuntu partition to make it bigger, and now grub wont start.. And I have deleted all of the content of the /boot folder20:26
shazzrWeird thing....if I use debian on my laptop it starts much faster than if I use ubuntu. How can I check what takes so much time?20:26
diogenes_how are you chatting here?20:26
k1lubuntly: the service used for the kernel upgrades is livepatching. and yes you can do it on your own if you want. but 3 machines are for free from canonical service20:27
diogenes_shazzr, run systemd-analyze blame20:27
k1lubuntly: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/10/canonical-livepatch.html20:27
scottjlZeptoByte: You've pretty much hosed your system deleting /boot20:29
shazzrdiogenes_: apparmor.service, 21.8 s, and plymouth-read-write.service, 21.7 s. Can I disable them in any way?20:29
diogenes_shazzr, first google and read the documentation20:30
ubuntlyk1l: three for free? cool! I guess even for commercial use, etc - great!20:30
ZeptoByte@scottjl, I can't somehow reinstall it from a live usb?20:30
OerHeksubuntulog2, actually, if you are a developer with ubuntu, contact them ;-)20:30
k1lubuntly: see that blogpost with that faq20:31
ngochaihi guys, how do I disable console on framebuffer device and keep the framebuffer device (/dev/fb*)20:32
scottjlZeptoBte: You can but it wouldn't be an easy process. Unless you needed that exact install, better off booting from live, backing up data, and reinstalling.20:32
dannyLopezOerHeks: Im not dev, Im a simple user and just follow a tutorial20:32
anddamwhile creating a backup using the Backup panel in System Settings I get a "Backup Failed - Permission denied"20:32
diogenes_ZeptoByte, http://pastebin.com/WxequHSj20:32
stratocastorNMAnyone here install folding at home on Ubuntu?20:32
anddamI used a SSH storage location, specifying the server, the folder and the username (same as my user on this system)20:33
ZeptoByteThank you @diogenes, I will try that20:33
anddamwhere can I read a more detailed log of what's failing?20:34
diogenes_ZeptoByte, good luck20:34
ZeptoBytediognes_, it didn't work.. I've posted the output here http://pastebin.com/vptnfckQ20:40
diogenes_ZeptoByte, you're in trouble, reinstalling is way to gpo20:41
diogenes_go*20:41
ZeptoByteOkay, but thank you diogens_ for the help :)20:42
diogenes_ZeptoByte, you're welcome20:42
pavlosZeptoByte, would this help? ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/831216/reinstalling-grub2-efi-partition20:43
Apachezinte ubuntu, is there a "good" way to run a specific command AFTER user logged into the gui AND network is up and running?20:44
Apachezin ubuntu, is there a "good" way to run a specific command AFTER user logged into the gui AND network is up and running?20:44
baizonApachez: well you could run a script ;)20:45
baizonthat is lauched on startup20:45
stef_Rhow do I register my nick20:45
baizon!register | stef_R20:46
ubottustef_R: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.20:46
ZeptoBytepavlos, diogenes_, I tried to reinstall the system and it says that the previous version is installed using "BIOS compativility mode".. Should I be using BIOS or UEFI mode.. If I also want to dual boot with windows?20:47
diogenes_ZeptoByte, first and FIRST you back up your data20:49
ZeptoByteIt's a relative new install, and the important files are in the cloud20:49
diogenes_zeroshft, then use legacy instead of uefi and erase everything20:50
aevlE: Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success 'test -x /usr/bin/apt-show-versions || exit 0 ; apt-show-versions -i'20:50
aevlE: Sub-process returned an error code20:50
aevlwhats this error??? ^20:50
aevlthat appears after running sudo apt-get update20:51
AnonyL35hello20:51
anddamdoes Unity support having different Universal Access rules for different displays?20:56
caimlasducasse, so, related to the issue I mentioned earlier about systemd falling over... there's more information now, but I'm not sure how to proceed further from this: http://pastebin.com/i7cs1TJ420:57
Aremis117anddam |  What are you trying to do20:58
Aremis117Do you want one display to be dedicated to magnify?20:58
caimlasducasse, was hoping you might have some input on what to investigate, short of the core, of why it's falling over.21:00
Aremis117caimlas |  Whats going on?21:01
caimlasAremis117, systemd-udevd is falling over (seemingly) randomly on a 16.04.02 VM, as is pretty much the whole of everything else related to systemd. It may be by my own doing, but I am not certain what as of yet.21:02
caimlassystemd being what it is, and not terribly robust, doesn't appear to provide sufficient log data for diagnosis.21:02
Aremis117Try OpenRC21:05
anddamAremis117: I have a 13" 1080p where I use Large Text setting, when I connect the external display, 1080p but 23", I'd like that to not have large text21:05
the_ktosiekUgh, I'm seeing Ubuntu switching to another VT on Alt+Left / Alt+Right. Is that a new thing?21:06
the_ktosiekI'm pretty sure Alt+Left wasn't doing this (I'm using this shortcut a lot in the browser)21:06
Aremis117anddam |  There should be something in options for unity to treat every display individually.  Thought I use mate and haven't played with unity in a long time.  Its in the same menu as having the side bar on every screen though.21:08
anddamAremis117: I figure I get the panel21:09
anddambtw anything about having more verbose output from deja-dup?21:09
anddammy user can ssh into the configured ssh host, and I have my pub key in remote authorized21:09
anddamalso my remote user can write in the target folder21:09
anddamI tried running it manually but it doesn't have a --verbose, and DEJA_DUP_DEBUG=1 suggested at http://askubuntu.com/a/191003 has no (apparent) effect21:11
anddamI tried    env DEJA_DUP_DEBUG=1 deja-dup --backup21:11
anddamI expected some more output in CLI but I just got the gtk window with "permission denied" displayed21:11
anddam ~/.cache/deja-dup is empty21:12
Aremis117anddam |  Theres also features like the OSX style magnify stuff that you could use 9IE hold cntrl + alt + mousewheel up or down to zoom in).21:12
anddamAremis117: oh that's nice, I used to use that quite often on macos21:13
pavlosZeptoByte, I thought you were trying to recover the existing system, hence the link21:14
ZeptoBytepavlos, Yeah I was, but it didn't look like I could get it to work again :/ Anyways now i'm reinstalling the system21:17
pavlosZeptoByte, ok21:17
Aremis117anddam |  Yeah there should be something like that available to you.p21:17
ZeptoByteI didn't loose any important data. I just need to use some time, setting everything up again..21:18
ZeptoByteBut thank you so much for your help, anyways. pavlos21:18
pavlosZeptoByte, np21:19
ZeptoByteI21:19
ZeptoByteI've always been suprised, of how nice the ubuntu community is. ;)21:20
anddamAremis117: the Screen Display pane, the one that allows you to say "put dock in all monitors", cannot split Universal Access, it can only switch between mirroring and split screen21:21
anddamAremis117: but the Universal Access setting will be global21:21
RedPenguinhello all21:23
RedPenguinI know of cron for scheduled tasks, but is there any thing similar to Windows's Task Scheduler to run a GUI/bash script, I can see open up in a terminal and see in foreground vs background?21:23
Aremis117anddam |  I remember something like enabling one screen for accessibility options or something like that.  Maybe I'm just thinking of the 12.04 beta :\21:24
Aremis117Sorry21:24
anddamoh damn, I typed in a wrong path, that's why deja-dup wasn't working21:25
anddamAremis117: np, thanks for the info21:25
anddamhow can I add a dot folder in a Gtk file dialog?21:26
anddamnvm, right click "show hidden files"21:27
OerHeksctrl H21:27
anddamI'd like to be able to type in a path tho', is there such a thing in Gtk's file dialog?21:27
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astemirhelp me please21:28
scottjlastemir: state your problem21:29
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anddamscottjl: just hepl!21:34
anddamand ragequit21:34
scottjlmaybe their link was the problem?21:35
anddamI have an actual problem with CUPS and Broterh MFC-250C printer (multifunction inkjet)21:36
anddamI installed lpr and CUPS wrapper deb packages from manufacturer, CUPS correctly recognizes the USB printer and assign the proper driver, but then jobs are simply accepted and immediately marked as completed but the printer doesn't do a thing21:37
anddamI don't know where to get more info21:37
naccanddam: if you are using debs from the mfr, probably from them21:37
anddamI mean from logs or so,there are no issues or error in CUPS logs21:38
unstablevetwhen i use lsusb i cant see my integrated webcam what do i need to do from there?21:38
anddamnacc: pfff, I figure it's magnificent on their side already to even have bothered about providing those in first place21:38
naccanddam: or just use a printer that works with linux21:38
anddamnacc: trying to be smart, with wise suggestions?21:39
naccanddam: if cups isn't logging anything, then i'm not sure if it's not the printer or driver21:39
naccanddam: at which point, you'd need to ask the driver author for how to debug21:39
anddamnacc: nothing that I can see, I checked the logs from web ui21:39
anddamanyway, I'll try again tomorrow, I'm tired now21:39
anddamthanks for the attention anyway21:40
Simonioustried apt-get update, got: Err:6 http://apt.puppetlabs.com trusty Release.gpg  The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 7F438280EF8D349F21:42
Simonioustried: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver apt.puppetlabs.com --recv-keys 7F438280EF8D349F      //this seems to hang forever21:43
Simoniousis there a correctly solution here?21:43
naccSimonious: wouldn't that be a question for the puppetlabs repository owner?21:43
Simoniousnacc: perhaps?21:44
OerHeksSimonious, here is a clue .. Puppet Labs Release Key expires soon https://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/CPR-31721:44
PiciSimonious: have you tried it recently? It may have been affected by the AWS outage.21:44
SimoniousPici: ahhh, good point!21:44
PiciI know some of the mirrors I use were...21:44
SimoniousPici: hmm, still failing21:45
PiciSimonious: You're not meant to replace the keyserver name in the command, try with just keyserver.ubuntu.com21:45
Simoniousooo, that looks better!21:46
KazutoI feel like my whole VPS is exploding. Every time I try to update my packages, I get told “Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1),” each sudo command tells me my hostname refuses connection, and ZNC can't read my config. Where the hell do I start troubleshooting?21:51
naccKazuto: pastebin the first case (full command all the output)21:53
lafleurdubiendoes anyone here have experience writing tutorials for Digital Ocean?21:54
Kazutonacc: Including the update output?21:54
nacclafleurdubien: doesn't seem topical for this channel? maybe #ubuntu-offtopic21:54
naccKazuto: probably doesn't hurt, but I was mostly interested in the comamnd that leads to the error21:54
Kazutonacc: `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`21:55
KazutoI'll get the full output in a sec21:56
naccKazuto: ok21:56
unstablevetcan someone assist me please21:57
Kazutonacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24086554/21:57
kalwnaut21:59
naccKazuto: wow, have you not updated in some time?22:01
Kazutonacc: Yeah, I know, it's been about two months22:02
naccKazuto: that's terrible, for it's own reason22:02
naccKazuto: esp. in a droplet, which means you're 100% insecure22:02
naccKazuto: but whatever, that paste doesn't have the relevant output22:02
KazutoThat's the only output though22:02
naccKazuto: did you use pastebinit?22:02
KazutoPastebinit?22:02
naccKazuto: oh i see, it just put it in the middle, sorry22:02
naccKazuto: seems suspicious that it's around package 100022:03
naccKazuto: have you tried using `apt` rather than `apt-get`? `apt update; apt full-upgrade`. Just curious if it's a tooling issue22:03
KazutoI'll try it22:03
Bashing-omunstablevet: No help until the issue is known, state the problem .22:03
unstableveti cant seem to find my integrated webcam when i use lsusb or lspci I'm not sure where to go from there22:04
Kazutonacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24086583/22:04
naccKazuto: ok, run `sudo apt-get -f install`22:05
Bashing-omunstablevet: I would run ' tail -f /var/log/syslog ' in terminal and see if the system picks up when the cam is connected .22:05
Kazutonacc: Running now22:06
Kazutonacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24086595/22:07
unstablevetbashing-om: nothing happened just have the  >22:07
LVDSXorgHi, I installed 16.04 on an older laptop that has RS880M graphics card, and I know current xorg doesn't support it. Is this the reason why my display resolution is stuck at 1600x900 ? I tried added undetected resolution but my screen goes blank22:08
naccKazuto: why do you have old 14.04 kernels on your system?22:10
Kazutonacc: ?22:10
naccKazuto: in any case, it doesn't look like any failures from that command22:10
naccKazuto: /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-110-generic22:10
SimoniousAre the network problems still going on?22:11
Kazutonacc: No idea. Could that be a problem?22:11
KazutoI'm basically at the point where I'm going to save all of my work off-site and re-flash the system though22:12
Bashing-omunstablevet: xtl+c to close that terminal . and open a new terminal ( ctl+alt+t - unity ) . and in this terminal type ' tail -f /var/log/syslog ' . And nothing else . In this terminal is the tail of the log and the (-f) is to see all that gets added to the log file . Terminate the logging in that terminal with ctl+c . to return to CLI prompt .22:12
naccKazuto: yes, you might as well, tbh, if that's an option22:12
KazutoAlright. Thanks for your help, nacc! I'll hang out here until it's done, then I'll rejoin on ZNC.22:13
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LVDSXorgwhen I do xrandr -q, I see my display to be LVDS, should I use LVDS-0 when adding a new mode ?22:16
LVDSXorgThing is when I try to change my resolution, I get a black screen. I am not sure why22:17
OerHeksLVDSXorg, no, LVDS is correct https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Dynamically_testing_different_resolutions22:19
unstablevetbashing-om:what specifically would i look out for?22:19
LVDSXorgoh okay OerHeks. Any idea why I get the black screen though ? should I play with the rate ? I am trying to get 1920x1080 6022:21
Bashing-omunstablevet: Whatever is reported when the cam is connected . That would be my starting point . Get some ID's and such to begin following the bread crumbs .22:21
violencechildrenfuck you guys22:23
* genii makes more coffee22:23
SimoniousDid I just get laid?22:24
elkyno22:24
Simoniousbut..  violencechildren said..22:24
elkynot worth giving trolls attention like that22:24
Simoniouswell.. he's already logged out22:24
Simoniousso I make jokey22:24
clissold345Can I ask about 17.04 here? It seems to have installed ok except that I cant open websites in firefox. I can connect to the router and I can ping. Eg ping 8.8.8.8.22:25
geniiclissold345: #ubuntu+1 is the official place for Zesty until it reaches actual release22:26
dbartonclissold345: execute a "dig example.net" in your console22:26
dbartongenii: didn't know about #ubuntu+1… thanks :)22:27
Apachezin ubuntu, is there a "good" way to run a specific command AFTER user logged into the gui AND network is up and running?   does for example network-manager have a postinit script that it can trigger once network is up and running?22:28
clissold345genii, I'll try there. Thanks.22:29
dbartonApachez: in case you use systemd, you could add a service unit (w/ oneshot command) and add it to the correct target (network.target if I'm not completly wrong)… but I think ubuntu uses upstart by default22:30
Apachezyeah if I add an app in startup applications it seems to be working as expected22:35
Apachezbut so would gigolo also do but gigolo fails since network isnt up yet when it runs22:35
Apachezso "proper" way to do this would be to locate a trigger of network up and mount as the user22:35
Renji666Ciao a tutti22:52
Apachezis it possible to disable the unmount option for a user when acting on a gvfs mount?23:04
Apachezlike in nautilus23:04
eightfoldhi there23:08
eightfoldhow should i upgrade python 2 to python 323:08
eightfoldi'm running 16.1023:08
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nacceightfold: you don't23:09
nacceightfold: you run the correct interpreter as needed23:09
nacceightfold: both are present (python is python 2 and python3 is python 3)23:09
eightfoldnacc: ok, but i need to install a program via pip23:09
eightfoldand i requires python 323:09
eightfoldand it23:09
nacceightfold: pip323:09
dbartoneightfold probably change the shebang to python323:09
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nacceightfold: python3-pip rather23:10
nacceightfold: use the correct pip for the correct environment23:10
eightfoldnacc: ok, so apt install pip3?23:10
nacceightfold: python3-pip iirc23:11
eightfoldargh, somebody told me i'd get the latest version by issuing apt install pip23:11
k1l!info python3-pip23:11
ubottupython3-pip (source: python-pip): Python package installer. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.1.2-2ubuntu0.1 (yakkety), package size 106 kB, installed size 558 kB23:11
nacceightfold: there is no package named pip23:11
eightfoldnacc: do i need to uninstall something first, in order not to introduce chaos23:11
k1leightfold: but are you sure that python package is not in the repos already=23:11
nacceightfold: no23:11
nacceightfold: python2 and python3 are in separate paths23:12
nacceightfold: and 'latest' is relative to ubuntu, of course, not upstream23:12
eightfoldk1l: what python package?23:12
nacceightfold: what python package are you trying to install eventually?23:12
eightfoldok, i'll install python3-pip23:12
k1leightfold: python2 and python3 are installable at the same time. so not to get a mess all pyhton3 stuff is named python323:12
k1leightfold: the python package you want to install with pip23:13
lernerwhat command do I need to start a program in 2 hours time?23:14
dimisdasSleep23:15
mcphaillerner: "at"23:15
eightfoldok, fail. "Exception: Sorry, Python 2 is not supported"23:16
nacceightfold: where and what command?23:16
eightfoldeven though i installed python3-pip23:16
nacceightfold: no context makes it impossible to help you23:16
nacceightfold: use a pastebin23:16
eightfoldpip install --user wpull23:16
nacceightfold: that's because, as I just said, it's pip323:16
nacceightfold: pip3 to use python323:16
eightfoldnacc: what is pip3?23:17
nacceightfold: the python3 pip23:17
eightfoldsorry, but i don't understand a thing. the python3 pip is pip323:18
eightfoldand i insalled it23:18
k1leightfold: pip is only python2. if you want python version3 to be used you need to use "pip3"23:18
nacceightfold: there are two commands23:18
eightfoldahhh23:18
eightfoldsawry23:18
nacceightfold: both are for what you are thinking of as 'pip' but you need to tell it which interpreter you want to use23:18
k1leightfold: it doesnt know what python you want since both pythons are installed23:18
eightfoldall these pythons :)23:19
naccthere are two23:19
eightfoldpip3 install --user wpull23:19
eightfoldworked better23:19
lernermcphail, so example: 'at 2am firefox -p'23:19
lerner?23:19
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krakkencoco coco puffs23:22
krakkenthe wifi took me a bit23:23
krakkennice to see double click tarball upzip23:24
mcphaillerner: "at" accepts jobs from stdin. So you could use: echo "DISPLAY=:0 firefox -p" | at now + 2hours23:27
ablest1980hi23:27
lernermcphail, so what I wrote would not work?23:27
mcphaillerner: you'll need to set the "DISPLAY" variable for graphical apps23:27
ofirHi, I'm experimenting with this ancient kernel 2.6.20-15-generic while reading the Art of Exploitation, and I am puzzled about how stack execution is allowed there23:34
eightfoldnacc: do you think this could have anything to do with the fact that i don't have python3 installed?23:34
eightfoldhttps://gist.github.com/anonymous/759912340b3d5bd9b7518acff5d03da023:34
ofirWould love that to hear a hint from someone :)23:34
naccofir: wrong channel23:34
naccofir: probably want a kernel channel23:34
ofirnacc, thanks, I'll try, it's an old Ubuntu 7.04 (Live CD), so I thought maybe someone would know23:35
still-dreaming-1Hell. I'm using Ubuntu via Bash on Ubuntu on Windows (Windows 10 feature). Is it true you should not modify the linux file system files through Windows file explorer?23:35
still-dreaming-1*hello23:36
nacceightfold: do you actually not have python3 installed? it's installed by default in ubuntu now23:36
nacceightfold: just as python323:36
nacceightfold: it's presumably that there is no html5lib (afaict)23:36
OerHeks!ubuwin23:36
ubottuCanonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality is still in beta and is not supported in #ubuntu. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows.23:36
genii!winubu23:37
geniiHm23:37
OerHeksCould be an 2nd option, genii23:38
k1leightfold: see, the error tells you its missing python3-html5lib23:38
nacceightfold: well, it does (if you know python and ubuntu) because it can't import a module and ubuntu generally has sane pacakge names for python modules23:38
nacc!info python3-html5lib yakkety23:39
ubottupython3-html5lib (source: html5lib): HTML parser/tokenizer based on the WHATWG HTML5 specification (Python 3). In component main, is optional. Version 0.999-4 (yakkety), package size 77 kB, installed size 515 kB23:39
eightfoldk1l: thanks!23:45
eightfoldnacc: thanks!23:45
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eightfoldi'll give  python3-html5lib a try23:45
eightfoldhmm23:49
eightfoldinstalled that package, getting https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e42b2d565e0eb4d96d5c168964660b8823:49
eightfolddidn't know that *nix dependency hell hole was so deep :)23:50
eightfoldidentical message as before installing python3-html5lib23:51
nacceightfold: iit'23:51
nacceightfold: it's a bug in wpull23:51
nacceightfold: not compatible with ubuntu's package, afaict, as the modules is called 'html5lib._tokenizer' (and the underscore implies it's not meant for direct import)23:52
funeyhey23:55
stinger910Hello23:58
stinger910Anyone interested in helping a complete noob set up their vncserver for desktop environment23:59

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