[00:00] <crendel> Zambzz: sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm unity8-desktop-session
[00:00] <Zambzz> thanks 😀
[00:00] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: :) of course . Now if ya can just get stable on a default install .
[00:01] <causative> I've been having a problem where my game repeatedly freezes for a second at a time, and I've noticed that each time this happens, my CPU0 usage drops to zero for a brief period... so maybe there is something wrong with CPU0, is t here any way to disable it?  if I try echo 0 | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/online I get permission denied (I can disable the other 7 CPUs)
[00:01] <causative> or I'd like to switch some other CPU to CPU0
[00:01] <FoeHammered> oscar mike golf i learned so much today thank y'all
[00:01] <nacc> causative: if you really have an issue with cpu 0, that measn you probalby have a hardware issue.
[00:02] <nacc> causative: most likely, given that you're playing a game on it, cpu 0 is really thread 0 or so
[00:02] <causative> nacc, I have disabled the other 7 CPUs, andI'm watching my system monitor performance widget
[00:02] <causative> so it's def CPU 0
[00:03] <causative> also this is not just this one application, I have had similar freezes at other times, this is just when it's more of a problem
[00:03] <nacc> causative: "CPU" is just the Linux terminology, it's really a logical thing, not a physical thing.
[00:04] <nacc> causative: it seems incredibly unikely that only your thread 0 would have physical issues and none of the others
[00:04] <Gongoj> Question. In bash is it possible to inject a keystroke through a script to automatically accept a license?
[00:04] <causative> it's a single threaded program
[00:04] <azizLIGHT> Bashing-om: well i think im stable now. the whole reason im trying to get to HWE 4.4 was xbox one controller support. but im hearing from my other hcannels that i should just a newer version of xpad
[00:04] <azizLIGHT> ive been doing this all wrong eh
[00:05] <azizLIGHT> and causing my self and all of you such headaches
[00:05] <nacc> causative: do you understand cpu topology?
[00:05] <causative> nacc, are you telling me that /proc/cpuinfo is purely logical and has no correspondence to my hardware, even t hough it lists 8 CPUs and that is my hardware?
[00:05] <nacc> causative: when i said thread 0 it had nothing to do with your software threads
[00:05] <nacc> Gongoj: you could use expect
[00:05] <nacc> Gongoj: or `yes`
[00:05] <Bashing-om> azizLIGHT: All a process of learning . there is the care and feeding of your 'buntu :P
[00:05] <Gongoj> For instance the command 'sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ext-pack' needs me to use the keys tab spacebar spacebar to accept agreement. Can this automated?
[00:06] <nacc> Gongoj: you don't want to automate, genearlly, accepting agreements
[00:06] <nacc> causative: no, i am saying that if /proc/cpuinfo says you ahve 8 cpus, it means you ahve 8 logical cpus. It does not mean you physically have 8 cpus. Which means that even if you did disable logical CPU 0, that if your hardware is that broken, there's probably something else wrong
[00:06] <causative> nacc, I am not aware of an alternate meaning of thread than software threads, and googling doesn't turn up much, can you give me a link?
[00:07] <Gongoj> i just want to automate my virtualbox installation as much as possible.
[00:07] <nacc> causative: SMT?
[00:07] <nacc> causative: Symmetric Multi-Threading
[00:07] <UserUS> Gonoj: Yes, you can write a simple script and have it execute at a certain time
[00:08] <causative> nacc, there may be something wrong, I did get some weird CPU pipeline errors some months ago though they haven't returned
[00:08] <Gongoj> From the example I gave I don't know how to automate the accepting of the license.
[00:08] <causative> but it seems it might be possible the error is just in one specific core
[00:08] <causative> and I want to disable that core and see if it helps
[00:09] <causative> except I'm not able to disable cpu0, just the others
[00:09] <UserUS> causative: that will cause a logical failure, it will get bad blocks
[00:10] <nacc> causative: i don't think you understand how computer hardware works, or the likelihood of only one core being bad, but let me look
[00:10] <nacc> UserUS: what? cores have nothing to do with blocks
[00:11] <nacc> causative: you oculd isolcpus=0 and see if stuff just doesn't get scheduled on logical cpu 0
[00:11] <UserUS> nacc: it will lead to that with the miswrites if all but one logical unit is left
[00:11] <nacc> UserUS: what are you talking about?
[00:11] <nacc> UserUS: 'all but one logical unit'?
[00:12] <UserUS> nacc: so if he disable the other 7
[00:12] <nacc> causative: alternatively, i think you need to pass 'cpu0_hotplug=1'
[00:12] <Zambzz> credel, well that didn't work 😢
[00:12] <causative> I would enable one of the other 7 before disabling 0
[00:12] <Zambzz> crendel*
[00:12] <nacc> causative: generally, cpu0 isn't hotpluggable, because there are lots of assumptions
[00:12] <nacc> UserUS: you can't disable all your cpus
[00:12] <nacc> causative: --^
[00:12] <nacc> causative: so you don't need to worry abou tthat
[00:12] <UserUS> nacc: oh well good
[00:13] <Alessandro_> Hello. I'm having some issues using MariaDB on Ubuntu 16.04. I install it with "apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client". When I run "mysql -uroot", however, I get "Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'". I then run mysql_safe_installation and set a password for the root user, and I still get the same error over and over again when logging in with "mysql -uroot -p" and typing the correct password. any hint?
[00:13] <nacc> UserUS: which is why i asked what you were talkinga bout. Because if you could, then where you would 'you' (the shell you're running) be running?
[00:13] <UserUS> nacc: exactly
[00:13] <Gongoj> Ugh okay thanks
[00:13] <nacc> UserUS: what does that at all ahve to do with bad blocks?
[00:14] <nacc> causative: without cpu0, you won't be able to suspend/resume, some machines also won't poweroff wihtout it
[00:14] <causative> nacc, pardon me if this is a silly question, is there any way to direct it so that CPU 0 is still CPU 0, but the game's thread is forced to run on a different CPU?
[00:14] <nacc> causative: yes
[00:14] <Zambzz> ooo crendel for some reason by entering recovery mode and then exiting it got me bk to login and now i see stuff
[00:14] <nacc> causative: also, i think the ubuntu kernel does not set CONFIG_BOOTPARAM_HOTPLUG_CPU0 so it won't matter, you still can't hotplug it :)
[00:14] <UserUS> nacc: well, if somehow you could theoretically stay connected after disabling them, the drive could fail
[00:15] <nacc> UserUS: that is, as far as I can tell, gibberish
[00:15] <Zambzz> my problem is solved, thanks for the help guys
[00:15] <nacc> UserUS: and not useful in a support channel
[00:15] <UserUS> nacc: you asked what I meant
[00:15] <nacc> causative: taskset
[00:16] <nacc> UserUS: and i think what you are saying you meant is 'if you could run a process without any cpus online, you could get bad blocks'. Which is ... gibberish.
[00:16] <zach2825> hello, does anybody here use LXC?
[00:16] <nacc> zach2825: LXD, but I have also used LXC (there is also #lxcontainers)
[00:16] <zach2825> lxc network used to be a command but now its gone in version 2.0.9
[00:16] <UserUS> nacc: to suggest that a memory failure could happen?
[00:17] <zach2825> and i can't figure out how to do networking stuff
[00:17] <nacc> zach2825: lxc != lxd
[00:17] <crendel> Zambzz: no problem, good luck :)
[00:17] <Alessandro_> Hello. I'm having some issues using MariaDB on Ubuntu 16.04. I install it with "apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client". When I run "mysql -uroot", however, I get "Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'". I then run mysql_safe_installation and set a password for the root user, and I still get the same error over and over again when logging in with "mysql -uroot -p" and typing the correct password. any hint?
[00:18] <nacc> Alessandro_: may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[00:18] <Alessandro_> nacc thanks
[00:18] <nacc> UserUS: fine, 'if you could run a process without any cpus online, you could see a memory failure'. a) vacuously true and b) it doesn't make any sense. Please drop it.
[00:21] <UserUS> nacc: I will. But you should do some research.
[00:25] <causative> thanks nacc  i tried taskset, no improvement, guess i need to look elsewhere, try isolcpus=0, or give up
[00:26] <nacc> causative: with taskset did you isolate it to not cpu 0? did cpu 0 still get used?
[00:27] <causative> command was taskset -p fe 5856, previously it was ff
[00:27] <causative> I don't know how to check if cpu 0 is still getting used
[00:27] <nacc> causative: taskset -p pid
[00:27] <nacc> causative: how were you checking if it was getting used before??
[00:27] <causative> that's how i checked
[00:27] <causative> thought you meant something else
[00:28] <causative> yes, it's fe now
[00:28] <nacc> causative: but how did you check before?
[00:28] <causative> taskset -p 5856
[00:28] <causative> before you talked to me i turned all the other CPUs off so what I saw in the system monitor widget had to be on CPU0
[00:29] <nacc> causative: no, i meant earlier you saw that cpu 0 was dropping off or whatever
[00:29] <nacc> causative: also, you did turn some other cpus back on, right?
[00:29] <zerorax> anyone else using mariadb have a problem with the current version in the repo hanging right after you start it?
[00:29] <causative> yeah i turned them all back on
[00:29] <zerorax> *16.04
[00:29] <Grasdorvo> o
[00:30] <causative> specifically the monitor is called indicator-multiload
[00:31] <nacc> causative: the thing is if cpu0 is glitchy, then anything runnng on cpu0 will lead to issues
[00:31] <nacc> causative: so it doesn't really make sense to just try and taskset the one task you care about, other stuff is running too
[00:32] <causative> you think I should try tasksetting all processes to fe?
[00:33] <nacc> causative: you won't be able to probably
[00:33] <nacc> causative: isolcpus is probably easier to do
[00:45] <betabot> Hi, I accidentally reformatted my EFI boot partition (/dev/sda1). Is there any way to reinstall grub? grub-install complains that it can't find the EFI directory...
[00:50] <pavlos> betabot, http://askubuntu.com/questions/831216/reinstalling-grub2-efi-partition
[00:52] <causative> nacc, I had a crash, did you say anything after I said "yeah I turned them all back on"?
[00:52] <nacc> causative: it's probably insufficient to just taskset your game
[00:52] <nacc> causative: as anything running on cpu0 may cause the issue
[00:53] <betabot> pavlos: great, thanks. Moment of truth... :P
[00:53] <nacc> causative: i would try isolcpus
[00:53] <causative> ok
[00:53] <causative> thanks for your help I'll try it later
[01:02] <arturo> Hey y'all
[01:02] <arturo> Anyone alive?
[01:07] <saber__> hi
[01:07] <saber__> any one here ?
[01:07] <cfhowlett> topic is ubuntu support,  ask your suppport questions, saber
[01:07] <saber__> i want to install dovecot
[01:08] <saber__> but i have this error
[01:08] <saber__> dpkg: error processing dovecot-imapd (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  dovecot-imapd E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:54] <uub> hi
[01:55] <Aurorasaura> I am having the hardest time finding info on how to make sdb,sdc,sdd all one big volume on Ubuntu server no gui.
[01:55] <nacc> Aurorasaura: do you mean software RAID?
[01:55] <nacc> Aurorasaura: mdadm is what you want
[01:56] <uub> rsync works with plain IP addreses - but not with hostnames (that are defined in /etc/hosts) :(
[01:56] <Aurorasaura> Kinda but all the drives are different sizes
[01:56] <uub> I first have to resolve the hostname by myself and replace it with its IP address in a rsync command to make it actually work
[01:56] <uub> why?
[01:56] <nacc> Aurorasaura: oh then you want LVM
[01:56] <Aurorasaura> I am trying that lol but the documentation is so hard to follow
[01:56] <nacc> uub: that's not generally true, i don't think
[01:56] <OerHeks> nacc + 1 LVM
[01:58] <OerHeks> pretty easy example, even *i* can do it >>> https://www.howtogeek.com/211937/how-to-use-lvm-on-ubuntu-for-easy-partition-resizing-and-snapshots/
[01:58] <OerHeks> * with gui
[01:58] <nacc> uub: rsync probably relies on the system resolver, so if `nslookup` can't resolve a hostname you provide, rsync won't either
[02:00] <uub> nacc: indeed, just found a strange vagrant-hostmanager vs dnsmasq that works without it :O
[02:03] <Aurorasaura> ty nacc .
[02:12] <Frank22> why is emerson such a queen that abuses ops...
[02:12] <Frank22> queenie that is a meanie
[02:12] <BlueLobster> poop
[02:12] <BlueLobster> butts
[02:12] <ikonia> please stop
[02:12] <Frank22> freenode has some real fag ops
[02:13] <Frank22> EMERSON
[02:13] <Frank22> fag op
[02:13] <Frank22> little dick
[02:20] <gnomethrower> thanks ikonia
[02:28] <Aurorasaura> nacc, Thank you! Finally figured it out! :D
[02:28] <texla> Upon opening 16.04.1 it goes to grub menu there i chose ubuntu on sda6 the next window has 20 kernel and kernel recovery entries I want to remove these entries down to the current and 1 old kernel
[02:29] <OerHeks> texla, autoremove would do that, and keep your current and previous kernel
[02:29] <OerHeks> sudo apt autoremove
[02:30] <texla> OerHeks,  tried that command it only removed entries from synaptic
[02:31] <OerHeks> texla is you are still on 16.04.1, please upgrade with sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade # to go to 16.04.2
[02:31] <OerHeks> no, not only packages, but also grub is regenerated... that takes a while
[02:31] <Celestia> Im curius. i need to find a i686 version of ubuntu, where may i find such an file?
[02:31] <OerHeks> Celestia, use the i386 version
[02:32] <Celestia> OerHerks, i cant find it
[02:32] <OerHeks> direct link > http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-16.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
[02:32] <Celestia> thank you
[02:33] <Celestia> i need to set it up on my grandmothers old HP Pavilion
[02:37] <texla> OerHeks, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:37] <OerHeks> texla, oke, then you are on 16.04.2 already > hostnamectl status
[02:38] <OerHeks> Operating System: Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[02:38] <OerHeks>             Kernel: Linux 4.4.0-64-generic
[02:41] <texla> OerHeks, 4.4.0-31-generic
[02:42] <OerHeks> oh, you are one kernel behind, reboot perhaps?
[02:49] <texla> OerHeks, Still 31 the first entry on grub 2.02 9ubuntu 1.12
[02:54] <OerHeks> texla, odd ..
[02:56] <barkintosh> bye
[03:00] <BHSPiMonkey> Using Ubuntu 16.04 (standard flavor with Unity) and my screen never auto-locks, despite my "Brightness & Lock" settings having Lock "ON" and set to "Lock screen after: 1 minute"
[03:01] <BHSPiMonkey> (Correction: 16.10)
[03:01] <BHSPiMonkey> I've tried turning Lock off and back on, and changing the lock timeout to 30 seconds, and it still never locks on its own. I'm monitoring xinput events and nothing is happening that would reset the idle timer. How can I debug this?
[03:03] <BHSPiMonkey> I'm able to manually lock via the power menu and the keyboard shortcut; it's only the automatic timer that isn't working. I'm not sure how Unity determines how long I've been "idle" (so that I can monitor that myself or add some logging)
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> BHSPiMonkey: system up to date to latest? syslog/dmesg showing usefull errors?
[03:05] <backbox> any one from E-G-Y-P-T HERE
[03:05] <aavrug> Hello evryone!
[03:05] <backbox> HI
[03:06] <OerHeks> BHSPiMonkey, install dconf, and look in org.gnome.desktop.screensaver + org.gnome.desktop.session ?
[03:06] <aavrug> I have upgraded Ubuntu from 14.04 to 16.04 and restarted it. But now my system is not booting getting error Failed to start Load Kernel Modules.
[03:07] <aavrug> Also getting usb 1-6: device descriptor read/64, error 110
[03:07] <E-G-Y-P-T> HI ALL
[03:08] <BHSPiMonkey> lotuspsychje: yes, and nothing is written to syslog/dmesg during my 30-second test periods
[03:08] <OerHeks> E-G-Y-P-T, join  #ubuntu-eg for egypt support :-)
[03:08] <test> hi all
[03:08] <Guest96509> i am a meer test
[03:08] <OerHeks> !test
[03:08] <E-G-Y-P-T> THX
[03:09] <Guest96509> beep
[03:09] <kostkon> BHSPiMonkey, checked in ~/.xsession-errors as well?
[03:09] <Guest96509> I check in all my errors, for reall yo.
[03:09] <Guest96509> check one, check one.
[03:09] <Guest96509> check two.
[03:10] <Guest96509> in and out, to the side and left again!
[03:10] <Guest96509> check check one!
[03:10] <OerHeks> Guest96509, is there any ubuntu support question in that?
[03:10] <BHSPiMonkey> OerHeks: in .screensaver, lock-delay and lock-enabled correspond with what's in my Brightness & Lock settings (30 and true). In .session, idle-delay is set to 300 (corresponding to the 5-minute "turn off screen" setting I've selected, also in Brightness & Lock)
[03:10] <Guest96509> OerHeks: Ubuntu sux0rz
[03:11] <chatter29> hey guys
[03:11] <chatter29> allah is doing
[03:11] <chatter29> sun is not doing allah is doing
[03:11] <chatter29> to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger
[03:11] <OerHeks> chatter29, no slaves here, go away
[03:11] <E-G-Y-P-T> thx oerheks
[03:12] <Guest96509> thats meean, i wanted to join his crew
[03:12] <Guest96509> the alllloooooww acccchhhhnar
[03:13] <Guest96509> anyways
[03:13] <Guest96509> i think pacman > apt-get
[03:13] <Guest96509> j00 guys know ubuntu spies on you right?
[03:13] <BHSPiMonkey> kostkon: there's some output there that might be relevant, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to be sure: https://ghostbin.com/paste/rn7py
[03:13] <Guest96509> It is like the AntiChrist, basically .. Ubuntu is the new Windows ME.
[03:13] <Guest96509> I would all rm -rf / now.
[03:14] <Guest96509> see they're listening tome ^^
[03:14] <Guest96509> Ubuntu is the DEVIL.
[03:14] <Guest96509> ___________________
[03:14] <Guest96509> I am the slayer of devils.
[03:14] <Guest96509> i come to slay the
[03:14] <Guest96509> BHSPiMonkey: you like Ubuntuno?
[03:14] <Guest96509> WHy not just burn your eyes out with acid
[03:14] <plgos> someone ban him
[03:14] <OerHeks> !ops
[03:14] <Guest96509> plgos: come on you gotta agree though?
[03:14] <Guest96509> !flops
[03:15] <Guest96509> I am spreading my word
[03:15] <Guest96509> that ubuntu suckszx0r
[03:15] <BHSPiMonkey> kostkon: though despite those last messages, I can confirm that unity-settings-daemon is indeed running right now (I actually have no idea what process actually watches the clock and auto-locks the screen)
[03:15] <Guest96509> terribly
[03:16] <BHSPiMonkey> If I knew which program was supposed to be responsible for the auto-lock timer, I would have started digging into source code by now
[03:17] <BHSPiMonkey> As far as I can tell, Unity uses the same conf keys that gnome-screensaver would, but has its own homegrown implementation
[03:17] <kostkon> BHSPiMonkey, well you could   tail -f the xsession error file and see if you are getting the same error message when the screensaver lock is supposed to fire up
[03:17] <BHSPiMonkey> will do
[03:19] <BHSPiMonkey> Nope, no new lines after the 30 sec.
[03:19] <kostkon> BHSPiMonkey, it could be random then
[03:20] <BHSPiMonkey> I wish it were more obvious what mechanism is supposed to enforce the timeout (so I could make sure that process is running), and subsequently how that process determines if you've been idle (so I can monitor whatever events it's monitoring)
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> BHSPiMonkey: did you have this on previous ubuntu versions?
[03:24] <BHSPiMonkey> lotuspsychje: I've had this problem for a long time, I've just given up various other times I've tried to investigate. And when I boot to an ubuntu live installer on this machine, there isn't a problem.
[03:25] <BHSPiMonkey> I'm really keen on figuring out what in my current install is preventing it from working as described
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> BHSPiMonkey: wondering if different kernels test would influence this, have you tried to !bug it yet?
[03:25] <BHSPiMonkey> (And to be honest it's a bit of a problem when the Settings app tells you a security setting is "on" when it really isn't)
[03:26] <acidchild> I have a thinkpad t460s with 16.04 and 4.10.1-041001-generic. When i close my laptop lid the laptop does not suspend, when i lift it up it seems to suspend on second close. I have found some bug reports about it 'freezing' on the lid being closed, i don't know if it's related. I attempted the fix with no luck. How entire sure how to fix this. Any advise would be apprciated.
[03:27] <OerHeks> acidchild,  how did you install that 4.10 kernel ? from mainline?
[03:27] <acidchild> yes
[03:27] <OerHeks> that repo is for testing, file a bugreport
[03:28] <OerHeks> !mainline
[03:28] <BHSPiMonkey> lotuspsychje: not sure... it'll be pretty time consuming to install a bunch of kernels and bisect :(
[03:28] <acidchild> the issue exists in the stock kernel with Xubuntu (can't remember which one) and the last couple of testing mainline releases.
[03:28] <OerHeks> oh, ubottu is offline
[03:28] <BHSPiMonkey> I'll probably end up doing a full checkout of unity source repos when I get home and start digging. I really hate this issue
[03:29] <acidchild> OerHeks: what does the bot say when you do !mainline? :)
[03:30] <OerHeks> acidchild, it points to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds , where is stated that it is for testing
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> BHSPiMonkey: i strongly reccomend to test 16.04.2 LTS also on your issue, to compare
[03:32] <acidchild> OerHeks: so unrelated to my issue. ok
[03:33] <OerHeks> acidchild, you tried, and you claim it is in previous kernels too, so mention that in the bugreport?
[03:33] <OerHeks> acidchild, did you search in bugs for your machine + close lid ??
[03:36] <acidchild> OerHeks: http://askubuntu.com/questions/395428/laptop-does-not-suspend-when-lid-is-closed
[03:37] <acidchild> it's very hard to tell what the laptop is doing when the lid is closed, it's possible it's not suspending at all.
[03:37] <acidchild> i'll give the work around in the forum a go but it seems weird this issue exists at all.
[03:37] <Condor_Peregrino> Hellow guys, I was wondering if someone could help me with the next problem. I recently installeda HDD drive to my computer and I encrypted it. The thing is after putting the password to open it etc. It says that I do not have the permissions to enter  "The file could not be saved because yo do not have the propers permissios. Choose antoher save directory.
[03:39] <acidchild> how did you encrypt the drive?
[03:39] <acidchild> is this your base OS drive or is this an additional disk?
[03:41] <Condor_Peregrino> acidchild: I encrypted when I installed the system; this is an HDD drive that I want to use only to store files. M
[03:42] <acidchild> OerHeks: or it is something as simple as -> http://i.imgur.com/wAKG5JB.png :p
[03:43] <acidchild> Condor_Peregrino: screenshot/pastebin please. the real error is needed.
[03:43] <Condor_Peregrino> acidchild: ok give me a sec please
[03:44] <Condor_Peregrino> acidchild:https://imgur.com/a/8C7RF
[03:45] <acidchild> what initiates this error?
[03:45] <acidchild> what are you doing that causes this.
[03:45] <jamesd> Condor_Peregrino: save it in your home directory or  /tmp or /var/tmp  or fix the permissions on where you want the file to be
[03:48] <Condor_Peregrino> jamesd: ¿Can I change the level of permissions that that drive has in certain times only?
[03:48] <Condor_Peregrino> jamesd: ¿how can i change the persmissions?
[03:49] <jamesd>     sudo -s
[03:50] <Condor_Peregrino> jamesd: ¿And what will be the commands?
[03:50] <jamesd> chown your-user-name  /some/directory/you/are/interested/in
[03:50] <Condor_Peregrino> jamesd: will the permissions be permanent?
[03:51] <jamesd> or chmod 7777 /some/diretory/you/want/to/write/too   #note this is not a good idea if you care about security
[03:51] <jamesd> it will make your user id the owner of the files in the directory.
[03:51] <jamesd> if you own the files usually you can write to them
[03:51] <Condor_Peregrino> jamesd: oh nice!,let me try it out
[03:54] <Condor_Peregrino> jamesd: it worked!!!!
[03:54] <Condor_Peregrino> jamesd: many thanks!
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | jamesd
[03:55] <jamesd> i may need to go on a diet if i get cookies for helping users for chown... what will they give me for a  1 liner shell script ;-p
[03:58] <Condor_Peregrino> jamesd: well I have a question that is a little bit for difficutl
[03:58] <Condor_Peregrino> jamesd: difficult
[03:59] <jamesd> ok
[04:00] <Condor_Peregrino> jamesd: well I want to run a Virtual Box image on this HDD drive. ¿Will this virtual machine will be always available?, in the senses that obviously I need the password of the hard-drive but after that will I have to use chown all the time?.
[04:01] <jamesd> Condor_Peregrino: now that you have done chown you own the file you can make changes to it...  you can start the virtualbox image headless and i think there are ways to have it autostart headless when you power on hte machine but haven't looked at that in years..
[04:02] <Joey__> hi 16.04 question. I would like to install mono complete for version 3.2.8 (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/mono-complete) how would I specify that I want this version and not 4.2.1.102?
[04:03] <jamesd> http://askubuntu.com/questions/92019/how-to-install-specific-ubuntu-packages-with-exact-version
[04:06] <Joey__> thanks! so I can do apt-get install mono-complete=... would I specify 3.2.8+dfsg-4ubuntu4 in my case then? the whole thing +dfsg-4ubuntu4 included?
[04:06] <Joey__> looks like it
[04:07] <jamesd> Joey__: becareful  locking your self into a specific version, security bugs do occur, if you use only an old version your data could be at risk
[04:08] <Joey__> I have a software that doesn't run on the latest version
[04:15] <Joey__> it says it doesn't find the version (I did an apt-get update)
[04:15] <Joey__> do I need to add a repository url where to go look?
[04:16] <uRock> Joey__, are you looking for mono repo?
[04:16] <Joey__> yeah I need an older version
[04:17] <Joey__> I tried with the info for pinned release on the mono-project website but that didn't work, it kept installing the latest version
[04:18] <Joey__> so now I'm trying 16.04 because I saw it had a package, but that says 'version not found'
[04:19] <HikaruBG> hi guys!
[04:19] <uRock> https://www.howtoinstall.co/en/ubuntu/xenial/mono-complete Joey__
[04:20] <HikaruBG> I am trying to create a ubuntu service in /etc/init.d that will run a server for me, but it don't run...  I can provide the code - anyone help!
[04:20] <uRock> What service?
[04:20] <Joey__> uRock that's not the version I need... I would need this one https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/i386/mono-complete/3.2.8+dfsg-4ubuntu4
[04:20] <uRock> This isn't VagueBook
[04:21] <HikaruBG> i would like to install WSO2 server as a service, according the instructions.
[04:22] <uRock> Joey__, getting an older version to work may not be very easy as you will also have to take care of dependancies which aren't likely to be in the repo either.
[04:33] <Allen_Oaks> BOATS AND HOES....BITCHES!
[04:33] <ems36> yep
[04:39] <saber> hi
[04:39] <saber> i need help
[04:40] <Bashing-om> !help | saber
[04:40] <saber> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24082436/
[04:42] <saber> :D Here is up
[04:44] <Ben64> saber: this channel only supports ubuntu, you appear to be using debian
[04:44] <saber> aha
[04:44] <saber> okey no proplem :D
[04:46] <HikaruBG> I am trying to run this as init.d service. It won't run and I can't see why. http://paste.ubuntu.com/24082457/
[05:07] <raccoonsrage> hello
[05:08] <raccoonsrage> anyone willing to help a beginner with a bit of guidance getting my ubuntu server set up? i have all my keys in order on my other machines but not sure the next steps for making my server have the ability to be SSH'd in on a different network
[05:09] <raccoonsrage> running 16.04 on an old macbook
[05:12] <raccoonsrage> do i need to own a real domain?
[05:14] <uRock> You should just need to know your public IP and set up port farwarding on your router.
[05:15] <raccoonsrage> and then just ssh into that IP?
[05:16] <uRock> Yup, you should be able to run "ssh name@a.b.c.d"
[05:16] <raccoonsrage> awesome, gonna fool around with that
[05:16] <raccoonsrage> thanks uRock
[05:16] <uRock> yw
[05:16] <raccoonsrage> you, rock
[05:16] <uRock> lol
[05:23] <raccoonsrage> testing brb
[05:23] <stanford_ai> Every time my ubuntu 14.04 updates, the wifi stops working. Why is it doing this again, and again??????
[05:23] <BHSPiMonkey> lotuspsychje / OerHeks - Thanks for the leads on the screen lock issue. Turns out the "Lock screen after" timeout setting starts counting *after* the "Turn screen off when inactive for" timeout has been reached. The two options aren't even presented under the same subheading so it's quite unclear that they are connected...
[05:23] <stanford_ai> should I disable all updates? ubuntu is annoying as fuck
[05:24] <BHSPiMonkey> Nevertheless the timer is working, so I guess there's no issue there. I might open a bug to propose making the settings UI for those options a little more self-documenting
[05:25] <BHSPiMonkey> (or to allow for the lock timeout to happen -before- the screen poweroff timeout, which is what I was expecting / wanting)
[05:26] <raccoonsrage> uRock is it going to be the same SSH as before?
[05:26] <BHSPiMonkey> stanford_ai: never heard of that happening. Have you opened a bug report with details about your system and the steps to reproduce? In the meantime you might want to stick to security updates only
[05:27] <raccoonsrage> i have it forwarding for the machine running ubuntu
[05:27] <stanford_ai> BHSPiMonkey, I don't even know how to file a bug report, how to reproduce it, or what info to send. I want to do work
[05:27] <uRock> raccoonsrage, If running it from outside the LAN, then you'll have to use you public IP address
[05:28] <dennis___> hey
[05:28] <dennis___> do any of you know java?
[05:28] <raccoonsrage> i was trying to do it from my mobile hotspot
[05:28] <uRock> I drink it every day
[05:28] <uRock> raccoonsrage, you should be able to find it by going to whatismyip.com or something like that.
[05:29] <dennis___> uRock, could you tell me why my scanner is terminating early?
[05:29] <uRock> not sure on that
[05:29] <dennis___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24082722/
[05:30] <dennis___> its happening when i type recursive but not when i type iterative
[05:30] <BHSPiMonkey> stanford_ai: I feel you. To me personally, (a) figuring out the cause or (b) using a different NIC are easeier options than (c) switching OS, but that's your call.
[05:30] <BHSPiMonkey> !bug
[05:30] <BHSPiMonkey> stanford_ai: ^
[05:31] <resu> I'd liket to filter zmap output to show only responses, does anyone know how?
[05:31] <raccoonsrage> do i only need to add forwarding to my ubuntu host machine?
[05:40] <uRock> raccoonsrage, on my router I have to input the port to be forwarded, then the address and port of the internal host.
[05:40] <dennis___> can anyone please help me find whats going wrong?
[05:40] <dennis___> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24082722/
[05:42] <raccoonsrage> trying to configure this ATT router
[05:42] <raccoonsrage> public gateway address?
[05:51] <raccoonsrage> fucking at&t
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> !language | raccoonsrage
[06:04] <raccoonsrage> sorry
[06:04] <raccoonsrage> frustrations :)
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> raccoonsrage: have you tried the ##networking channel?
[06:05] <raccoonsrage> no, may be a good idea
[06:05] <raccoonsrage> ty
[06:12] <hitman1> I have to split my display. I have 3 monitors. How to since my CPU only have 1 VGA port and no HDMI ?
[06:14] <arunpyasi> hello people !! I am having issue with my MIC. It works fine in Windows 10 but not in Ubuntu !!
[06:14] <hitman1> I I purchase video card will it solve my problem ?
[06:14] <arunpyasi> what might be the reason ?
[06:14] <raccoonsrage> microphone?
[06:14] <hitman1> Since VC too have 1 VGA port and I need 3 to connect 3 monitors.
[06:15] <hateball> hitman1: If you get a dedicated GPU the internal (cpu) wont be used. So you'll want a card with 3 outputs
[06:16] <hateball> hitman1: With displayport it is also possible to daisychain from a single port
[06:16] <arunpyasi> raccoonsrage, yes, the internal mic of laptop
[06:16] <raccoonsrage> make sure you have all the drivers installed
[06:16] <hitman1> hateball, I saw few cards on amazon but they all have 1 VGA and 1 HDMI.
[06:16] <raccoonsrage> i had to add a couple that were missing after switching over
[06:16] <hitman1> And I need atleast 3 VGA or 3 HDMIs.
[06:16] <arunpyasi> raccoonsrage, I have pavucontrol
[06:17] <hateball> arunpyasi: how are you determining "not working"? Have you tried recording in e.g Audacity?
[06:17] <hitman1> How it is possible with display port ?
[06:17] <arunpyasi> raccoonsrage, which driver do you recommend for that ?
[06:17] <hateball> hitman1: https://www.displayport.org/cables/driving-multiple-displays-from-a-single-displayport-output/
[06:17] <arunpyasi> hateball, yes, tried in Audacity
[06:17] <hateball> arunpyasi: have you made sure the device is not muted? run "alsamixer" in a terminal to see if that is the case
[06:18] <hitman1> arunpyasi, what a nick lol .. :D
[06:19] <cb007> hitman1: better than ours :p
[06:19] <hitman1> Once I choosed Bhaiyaji as nick :p
[06:19] <arunpyasi> hateball, no, its not muted
[06:19] <arunpyasi> hitman1, haha :D
[06:19] <ubuntu_n00b> When running ubuntu 16.04 on an AWS i3 instance and testing an NVMe local disk with bonnie++, I see file system errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24082839/
[06:19] <arunpyasi> hitman1, mine is the same :D
[06:20] <ubuntu_n00b> I'm following up with AWS support, but does it also make sense to file an Ubuntu issue?
[06:21] <arunpyasi> hateball, ok, just got it working but has a lot noise
[06:21] <arunpyasi> and distortion
[06:21] <hateball> arunpyasi: what chipset is it? "lspci"
[06:21] <hateball> arunpyasi: it's possible you need to supply some kernel options for it to behave properly
[06:22] <arunpyasi> 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio (rev 21)
[06:22] <hitman1> hateball, I didn't get the displayport concept
[06:22] <hitman1> Should I need to buy something ?
[06:23] <raccoonsrage> no
[06:23] <hitman1> Then How can I split displays on different monitors using display ports >?
[06:23] <hateball> hitman1: well it depends on you having monitors with displayport
[06:23] <hitman1> hateball, My monitors only have 1 port and that is VGA.
[06:25] <hateball> hitman1: well then you'd need a GPU with 3 total outputs, be it VGA+HDMI+DP, and use adapters for HDMI->VGA and DP->VGA
[06:25] <hateball> hitman1: anyhow, it's not really Ubuntu related, ##hardware would be a better place
[06:25] <hitman1> If I need to buy a video card then which one should I go for as my sole purpose is split display and not gaming.
[06:26] <hitman1> hateball, ok
[06:26] <hitman1> thnz
[06:28] <Guest6130> quit
[06:28] <Guest6130> exit
[06:29] <Guest6130> \q
[06:34] <arunpyasi> cya everyone ! :)
[06:47] <teli> guys. I deleted the default file manager, then restarted PC and now my backround is black. What do i do? im running 17.04
[06:51] <teli_> guys help. I have no more background or icons and PC crashes as soon as I minimize firefox. on 17.04
[06:51] <teli_> anyone?
[06:53] <teli_> guys help. I have no more background or icons and PC crashes as soon as I minimize firefox. on 17.04
[06:59] <boristheanimal> lol teli_
[07:00] <alkisg> teli_: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[07:04] <anddam> need some help with CUPS, the Brother MFC-250C with lpr driver and cupswrapper from manufacturer installed on top of default 16.04.2 using --force-all (thus not removing cups-bsd in lieu of lpr) will accept jobs -it's perfectly recognized via USB in CUPS, with the relative driver automatically selected- but will immediately mark them as completed without printing a thing
[07:04] <anddam> ##cups has been silent almost two days now
[07:05] <anddam> I reviewd most of the askubuntu/SO answers I could find, mostly outdated or trivial stuff like "how do I install a .deb file", I'm past that
[07:05] <anddam> I don't see any error in CUPS webui logs
[07:06] <anddam> I don't see any error in the unit file status
[07:07] <aken> test
[07:07] <alkisg> aken: test succeeded
[07:08] <hitman1> https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/gt-710-2gb - IS this supported by ubuntu ?
[07:08] <Ben64> yes
[07:25] <teli_> guys help. I have no more background or icons and PC crashes as soon as I minimize firefox. on 17.04
[07:25] <FMan> lol
[07:25] <anddam> there's a glitch in the matrix
[07:26] <Edisto> when I type $export /home/admins/Downloads/VulkanSDK/1.0.42.0/x86_64 I am getting the error no such file or directory. What is the deal?
[07:26] <FMan> umm, 17.04 is not an official release (so no support here)
[07:26] <ducasse> teli_: you need to ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:26] <teli_> does anyone know what to do? Im a noob
[07:26] <ducasse> teli_: yes, ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:26] <FMan> format and install 16.04.2 LTS
[07:27] <alkisg> Edisto: the syntax is export VAR=VALUE, what are you trying to do?
[07:27] <ducasse> teli_: if you are a newbie, you should not be running a development release
[07:30] <Edisto> alkisg: ahhh... that worked thanks. Trying to install vulkan drivers so I can install proprietary amd drivers
[07:30] <alkisg> np
[07:33] <strk> I'm lost with resolv.conf, how do I query the libc view on the matter ?
[07:33] <strk> simply adding entries in /etc/resolv.conf doesn't seem to have any effect (on nslookup "server" command, for example) -- is there any command to run for updating the dns servers ?
[07:36] <hateball> strk: what version of ubuntu are you using? typically you are using network-manager and you should use that to change DNS servers
[07:36] <hateball> and then there is dnsmasq that does caching
[07:43] <hgth> How can I uninstall a font I installed via the gui font viewer?
[07:45] <strk> hateball: 16.04, yes I'm usually using network-manager and only configuring via GUI but today I had a problem and was left outside of X (does network-manager require X ?) and to debug I've manually configured the interface (ifconfig) and routing (route) but found myself unable to deal with the resolver (as changes to /etc/resolv.conf were ineffective)
[07:45] <hateball> strk: there is still nmcli
[07:45] <Edisto> getting error "dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)" when trying to do sudo apt-get -f install. How do I bypass this error? Trying to update my gimp to 2.9.5
[07:46] <strk> hateball: does it mean the network manager is now mandatory to use network ? I hope not ?
[07:46] <EriC^^> Edisto: paste the whole output in a pastebin
[07:47] <hateball> strk: no, but as long as you have it, it will overwrite configs etc
[07:47] <Edisto> http://pastebin.com/fpVwTbcx
[07:48] <strk> hateball: I stopped it as first thing while trying to do things manually
[07:48] <strk> and quit dnsmasq too
[07:48] <EriC^^> Edisto: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/gimp_2.9.5~89-0x0~ppa~86e101e_amd64.deb
[07:49] <Edisto> woot thanks much =D
[07:49] <EriC^^> :D np
[07:49] <hateball> strk: I'm not sure why you dont just use nmcli
[07:51] <alkisg> strk: stopping network manager doesn't undo the changes that it does upon its installation. So just start it again and use nmcli like hateball says.
[07:56] <geirha> looks like a badly written trigger in that package. Probably a bash script using errexit in combination with pipefail
[08:59] <vlt> Hello. I installed xrdp on an Ubuntu 16.04 system. My tests all looked fine but now users complain about not being able to login. There seems to be a 10 user limit. How can I remove this without disturbing users that are alrrady logged in and working?
[09:02] <branches> Hello, is there a way to know which kernel driver my touchpad is using?
[09:02] <ikevin> branches, try lsmod
[09:06] <Haris> hello all
[09:07] <Haris> I'm on 14.04.2. Does upgrading to .5 enough for security updates for me till 2019 ?
[09:07] <Haris> Does = I
[09:07] <Haris> Does = Is
[09:07] <cfhowlett> Haris, you should be on 14.04.5 which is the current version.
[09:08] <cfhowlett> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:08] <Haris> have php, php lib for mysql, mysql version changed between .2 and .5 ?
[09:08] <cfhowlett> 14.04 is supported until 2019
[09:11] <strk> hateball: ok I guess I'll surrender to network-manager, thanks for nmcli hint (I didn't know it)
[09:11] <ikevin> Haris, you can update apt database and check php / mysql version with apt-cache show
[09:13] <Haris> checking
[09:15] <Haris> dist-upgrade and do-release-upgrade are two separate things ?
[09:15] <cfhowlett> YES
[09:15] <Haris> dis-upgrade would upgrade pkgs till the same major release ?
[09:15] <cfhowlett> Haris, ... within the same major release
[09:17] <OnceMe> I get This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources.
[09:17] <OnceMe> Im not sure what sources are those, how can I check and also how to get rid of them?
[09:17] <zamba> how do i check which version of the sftp protocol a server supports?
[09:17] <cfhowlett> OnceMe, /more /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:17] <OnceMe> ok
[09:17] <OnceMe> I also get this:
[09:17] <cfhowlett> OnceMe, that would be more ...
[09:18] <OnceMe> https://thepasteb.in/p/Q1hBOBAR1Zwu8
[09:18] <cfhowlett> OnceMe, yep... ppa are non-trusted
[09:18] <OnceMe> but why is this ppa not found?
[09:18] <cfhowlett> the 404 suggests that either the package has been dropped or that source is in error
[09:18] <OnceMe> I used this to regularly update php
[09:19] <OnceMe> how to fix the source?
[09:19] <OnceMe> Should I remove this ppa?
[09:19] <ikevin> zamba, sftp localhost, when logued, type "version"
[09:19] <ikonia> OnceMe: talk to the ppa owner
[09:19] <ikonia> OnceMe: this is why ppa's are not trusted
[09:19] <cfhowlett> OnceMe, your choice.  I don't do ppa myself ...
[09:19] <OnceMe> how do you install php then?
[09:19] <OnceMe> also I see in sources.list.d some files
[09:19] <OnceMe> those are ppa untrusted right?
[09:19] <cfhowlett> from the main repos ... apt install php
[09:20] <ikonia> OnceMe: you use the distro provided and maintained packages
[09:20] <ikonia> that way you are guarenteed support for the lifecycle of the distro
[09:20] <zamba> ikevin: thank you :)
[09:20] <OnceMe> cfhowlett: but that php version is obsolete
[09:21] <ikevin> zamba, you welcome
[09:21] <ikonia> OnceMe: what version of ubuntu are you using
[09:21] <OnceMe> 14.04 LTS
[09:21] <ikonia> OnceMe: what version does that ship with ?
[09:21] <ikonia> 5.4 ?
[09:21] <OnceMe> yes
[09:21] <ikevin> 5.6 i think
[09:21] <ikevin> o:
[09:21] <OnceMe> but I need fpm as well
[09:21] <OnceMe> fpm is not included
[09:22] <ikonia> OnceMe: so use a later version of ubuntu (16.04 lts for example which ships with 5 or 7)
[09:22] <ikonia> OnceMe: and that way you get support for the full lifecycle
[09:22] <OnceMe> I want 5.6.30
[09:22] <ikonia> it doesn't really work like that
[09:22] <ikonia> more so with fixes being back ported
[09:22] <ikonia> the version will not always match upstream
[09:23] <ikevin> OnceMe, why you wan't this specific version?
[09:23] <OnceMe> because I have all I need in that version
[09:23] <OnceMe> and on my production server, it's 5.6.30 aswell
[09:23] <OnceMe> I want that to be matched
[09:23] <ikonia> OnceMe: it doesn't work like that though
[09:23] <OnceMe> I could used vagrant though
[09:25] <OnceMe> ikonia: what it doesnt work?
[09:26] <ikonia> OnceMe: ?
[09:26] <OnceMe> OnceMe: it doesn't work like that though
[09:26] <ikonia> OnceMe: you don't just pick an upstream version and say "I want that"
[09:26] <vyddtu> Hello. Can i pastebin an Image at https://paste.ubuntu.com/ ??
[09:26] <Ben64> vyddtu: imgur.com
[09:26] <cfhowlett> vyddtu, yes?
[09:26] <ikonia> vyddtu: no
[09:27] <cfhowlett> screenshot the image then imgur it .. though why you would want to ...
[09:27] <vyddtu> oops.. i want to paste an image somewhere before asking you people my query.
[09:27] <Legal> vyddtu, yes. Open image in text editor, and then paste. :/ But use imgur maybe...
[09:27] <vyddtu> Legal: let me try. thanks
[09:28] <OnceMe> ikonia: so what do I do?
[09:28] <ikonia> OnceMe: understand the versions the distro ships and pick a distro that supplies a support version that meets your requirements
[09:28] <OnceMe> well you are saying I should use vagrant
[09:28] <ikevin> OnceMe, or don't upgrade php/mysql (freeze your currents package)
[09:28] <OnceMe> but I think its the best way anyway
[09:29] <ikonia> OnceMe: not at all
[09:29] <ikonia> I'mnot saying that at all
[09:29] <ikevin> OnceMe, http://askubuntu.com/questions/18654/how-to-prevent-updating-of-a-specific-package
[09:29] <Ben64> really bad idea ^
[09:30] <ikonia> agreed
[09:30] <ikevin> i know, but ...
[09:30] <Ben64> ikevin: best not to give bad ideas out probably
[09:31] <OnceMe> Ben64: would you recommend vagrant
[09:31] <ikonia> no
[09:31] <vyddtu> Hello. I want to reinstall my Ubuntu.[[[ http://picpaste.com/unnamed.png ]] This is my current Disk Architecture along with Windows 7 installed which i feel is not correct. Please suggest me right partitions for fresh Installation.
[09:31] <OnceMe> why not
[09:31] <Ben64> OnceMe: no
[09:31] <ikonia> OnceMe: for the reasons I stated earlier
[09:31] <ikonia> I have no idea why you think vagrant voids those reasons
[09:32] <Ben64> vyddtu: why reinstall? and you should be able to boot the installer and choose to replace ubuntu
[09:33] <vyddtu> Ben64: you mean i run the Ubuntu 16.04 DVD again and replace Ubuntu?
[09:33] <Ben64> vyddtu: yeah that should work
[09:34] <OnceMe> ikonia: it doesnt
[09:34] <OnceMe> but can ensure my distro is the same across local, staging and production environment
[09:34] <OnceMe> I use centos 6.8 on a local/staging platform
[09:34] <ikonia> OnceMe: by using the same distro
[09:34] <OnceMe> yes
[09:34] <Ben64> yeah, then install centos 6.8
[09:35] <OnceMe> thats why I need vagrant
[09:35] <Ben64> no
[09:35] <ikonia> no
[09:35] <OnceMe> I like ubuntu as a home desktop
[09:35] <ikonia> thats how you ensure it
[09:35] <ikevin> OnceMe, if you wan't the same env as your production, clone your production server
[09:35] <OnceMe> what?
[09:35] <Ben64> either use ubuntu or use centos, you can't make them the same
[09:35] <OnceMe> I know
[09:35] <OnceMe> I use ubuntu
[09:35] <Ben64> i don't think you do know
[09:35] <OnceMe> for a home desktop, and when I develop apps, I use vagrant to run centos 6.8
[09:35] <OnceMe> becuase thats my production server
[09:35] <OnceMe> right?
[09:36] <ikonia> use whatever technology you feel best to deliver a centos environment that mirrors your production server
[09:36] <aavrug> Hello everyone!
[09:37] <OnceMe> ok great, thanks
[09:37] <aavrug> I have upgraded my Ubuntu OS to 16.04. Few MySQL tables are broken because Of that. Is there any way that I can downgrade MySQL to 5.5?
[09:38] <ikonia> no
[09:38] <OnceMe> aavrug: use vagrant
[09:38] <ikonia> and tables won't break because of an upgrade
[09:38] <ikonia> OnceMe: please stop telling people to blindly use vagrant
[09:38] <ikonia> it is not the answer
[09:38] <cfhowlett> OnceMe, do you work for vagrant or something??
[09:38] <ikevin> aavrug, normally there a script to convert mysql database after upgrade
[09:38] <aavrug> ikonia, yea it is in MySQL5.7 even from 5.6 there are lot of changes and because of that something broken
[09:39] <aavrug> ikevin, what's that?
[09:39] <OnceMe> cfhowlett: yes
[09:39] <OnceMe> :D
[09:39] <aavrug> OnceMe, why I use vagrant?
[09:40] <Ben64> aavrug: you don't, it's not a solution
[09:40] <aavrug> I don't think this is my solution
[09:40] <ikonia> aavrug: you need to understand what is cause the problems and if it's really "tables" that are broken
[09:40] <aavrug> Ben64, yea
[09:40] <vyddtu> Ben64: actually my ubuntu /var used to get filled. Tired of solving this problem am trying re-install.
[09:40] <ikevin> aavrug, what does mysql log said?
[09:41] <Ben64> vyddtu: you'd probably have more luck solving the problem instead of reinstalling
[09:41] <aavrug> ikonia, I got the error and tried to fix that but still getting same error like there is a comparuison using ">" operator which is working fine in 5.5 but from 5.6 it is not working. Even I tried to convert my tables to utf8-general-cli but still not working
[09:42] <ikonia> you've just said things that don't make sense
[09:42] <ikonia> you have a comparison in the sql thats failing, so you convert your tables to utf8 ?
[09:42] <vyddtu> Ben64: i tried shifting /var to my my home director and making appropriate changes in fstab, but thats where i broke the system. it is working but shows errors.
[09:43] <Ben64> vyddtu: why would you move /var to home???
[09:43] <cfhowlett> vyddtu, wait, what?  why?
[09:43] <aavrug> The table collation was latin-swedish-ci and I searched for the error I got that I have to change it to utf8...
[09:43] <ikevin> aavrug, ">" operator work fine in mysql 5.7
[09:44] <ikonia> aavrug: the first thing I would suggest you do is make a clean note of the problems/errors, then talk to the #mysql channel to understand how to deal with them
[09:44] <ikonia> the problem isn't ubuntu, the problem is your application may need work to comply with the later mysql version
[09:44] <ikevin> aavrug, "select 2 > 1 ;" said what?
[09:44] <vyddtu> Ben64: My /var used to get filled and i was unable to install any more software when my root had much space. So i was suggested to merge /var with root partition and delete /var
[09:44] <aavrug> ikonia, 1
[09:45] <vyddtu> cfhowlett: sorry merge /var to root i meant
[09:45] <cfhowlett> vyddtu, worst - advice - ever
[09:45] <ikevin> aavrug, it mean the operator work, maybe you have problem with rom type
[09:45] <vyddtu> cfhowlett: i was given this link to follow: http://askubuntu.com/questions/89105/how-do-i-relocate-on-my-ubuntu-moveable-directories-var-and-usr
[09:45] <aavrug> Btw I know it is MySQL related error but I have shortage of time that's why I was looking for a way to downgrade the MySQL version.
[09:45] <ikevin> row*
[09:46] <aavrug> But it seems there is no way to achieve that.
[09:46] <ikonia> aavrug: not going to happen
[09:46] <ikonia> aavrug: get everything documented and clear and talk to the experienced guys in #mysql
[09:46] <ikonia> aavrug: they will be your quickest path to sucess
[09:46] <aavrug> ok thanks
[09:46] <aavrug> yea I think so
[09:47] <ikonia> aavrug: you'll need to describe your problems clearly though
[09:47] <ikevin> aavrug, be sure you row are INT (or any numeric type)
[09:47] <aavrug> ok I'll check and thanks I'll take care of that.
[09:51] <vyddtu_> sorry got disconnected :-(
[10:04] <des_consolado> this resolvconf package... wtf is this? what was wrong with just having /etc/resolv.conf, nice and simple?
[10:05] <ikonia> some people benifit from it with things like dnsmasq for vpn connections
[10:09] <NotLim> des_consolado
[10:10] <NotLim> you don't like resolvconf?
[10:12] <des_consolado> NotLim: I don't think so, I haven't looked too much at it but it's certainly not as simple as the usual resolv.conf
[10:12] <NotLim> yes
[10:12] <NotLim> you just have to edit /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base
[10:12] <NotLim> i think
[10:12] <NotLim> then resolvconf -u
[10:19] <g105b> I need to start multiple python scripts concurrently, and keep them running even if they fail. Is systemd the tool for the job?
[10:21] <ikevin> g105b, yep it can
[10:21] <g105b> More specifically, I know there are various tools around systemd (upstart, initd), and I wanted to make sure I have the terminology correct before googling.
[10:22] <ikevin> g105b, it depend of the ubuntu version you use
[10:22] <CFIL> I am looking for a parental control system for children, it should mainly be able to do two things: restrict computer and internet access times and log what the children are doing/which applications they are using. but the first one is more importan
[10:22] <jk_> hi
[10:22] <CFIL> does anyone know of such a thing?
[10:22] <k1l_> g105b: upstart and sysvinit are not tools around systemd, all 3 are init systems.
[10:22] <jk_> How are you?
[10:23] <ikevin> CFIL, iirc, dnsmask can do this kind of things
[10:23] <g105b> CFIL: Google Chrome browser has some good parental controls, unless your kids are trying to do something linux specific
[10:23] <ikonia> isn't there a parental control thing built into the desktop ?
[10:24] <g105b> ikevin: yes but that is too easy to google for.
[10:24] <CFIL> ikonia, is it part of unity?
[10:25] <ikonia> CFIL: not sure, I'm not sure it exists, I'm working from memory
[10:25] <tatertots> CFIL: put some thought into a single silver bullet strategy....and the weakness of such a single silver bullet strategy....
[10:25] <ikonia> there is this info from the ubuntu wiki using different tools https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ParentalControls
[10:26] <CFIL> ok thanks everyone
[10:26] <CFIL> tatertots, I don't understand what you mean by that
[10:26] <jk_> ping
[10:26] <tatertots> CFIL: good luck
[10:27] <cfhowlett> jk_,  the topic is ubuntu support.  ask your questions or chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic,
[10:27] <jk_> at me
[10:27] <ikevin> CFIL, install ctparental and configur it at http://127.0.0.1/CTadmin/
[10:28] <CFIL> ikevin, thanks, I am looking into that
[10:28] <tatertots> CFIL: best analogy i can throw at you is......my automobile has seat belts AND air bags
[10:29] <tatertots> if you still don't get it....i can't help you there
[10:31] <CFIL> yes but this is just about some time control for children, not about car crashes. And if they put the effort into it and find some holes in the control program its not even bad, at least they had to think about how the system works
[10:32] <tatertots> good luck with your endeavors
[10:40] <g105b> If I put a new .service file in /lib/systemd/system will it load at boot time by default, or do I need to do some configuration to get it to start automatically?
[10:43] <ikevin> g105b, you need to do a systemctl <your service name> enable
[10:44] <EriC^^> *enable <service name>
[10:44] <g105b> ikevin: and that will persist across multiple boots?
[10:44] <ikevin> g105b, yes
[10:44] <g105b> Cool, sounds simple.
[10:44] <ikevin> EriC^^, +1 (sorry)
[10:59] <alex73> Question: I have a lenovo t420. When I unplug my charger, it gives me an estimated time. But the estimate is very, very off. It will say like: "Estimated time left: 40 hours". What is causing that?
[11:00] <elias_a> How do I open tabs in default terminal?
[11:01] <elias_a> I see only "open new terminal window" option.
[11:01] <k1l_> elias_a: like on a browser
[11:01] <k1l_> ctrl+shift+t
[11:01] <thegame> hi
[11:01] <alex73> elias_a: what is the terminal?
[11:01] <thegame> terminal is a cmd prompt
[11:01] <alex73> (I use lubuntu LTS, I'm out of the loop)
[11:02] <thegame> hi alex
[11:02] <alex73> thegame: no I mean what is his default terminal
[11:02] <thegame> who knows
[11:02] <elias_a> k1l_: Does not work for me. :/
[11:02] <thegame> where are u guys frm ?
[11:02] <k1l_> the standard terminal on ubuntu is gnome-terminal
[11:02] <k1l_> elias_a: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[11:02] <thegame> yakety yak
[11:03] <elias_a> k1l_: 16.04 LTS
[11:03] <alex73> It's lxterminal then
[11:03] <elias_a> And Gnome terminal in use.
[11:03] <k1l_> elias_a: and desktop?
[11:03] <thegame> hi alex
[11:03] <thegame> alex
[11:03] <thegame> alex
[11:03] <cfhowlett> lxterminal?  only on lubuntu
[11:03] <thegame> knock knock
[11:03] <k1l_> alex73: no, lxterminal is not the standard terminal on ubuntu. its on Lubuntu since that uses lxde
[11:03] <alex73> Oh my bad, sorry, brain is fried from no sleep
[11:03] <alex73> I misread
[11:04] <k1l_> thegame: keep this channel for technical support only
[11:04] <thegame> die
[11:04] <thegame> ok
[11:04] <thegame> watsup ppl
[11:04] <elias_a> k1l_: Unity
[11:04] <thegame> mate
[11:04] <cfhowlett> thegame, topic is ubuntu.  ask your questions here or jibberjabber in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:04] <alex73> elias_a: since no one else answered, here: http://pastebin.com/LTKMBMUk
[11:04] <k1l_> elias_a: are you sure you used "ctrl+shift+t"?
[11:05] <thegame> does anyone see football
[11:05] <elias_a> k1l_: Yes I am certain.
[11:05] <k1l_> thegame: last warning now. this channel is not for chat, only technial support
[11:05] <thegame> which u r ?
[11:05] <cfhowlett> thegame, nothing to do with ubuntu support.  focus.
[11:05] <thegame> wghich team
[11:06] <thegame> with the name game, i shouldnt talk abt football
[11:06] <thegame> so sad
[11:06] <k1l_> elias_a: did you change the shortcuts then?
[11:06] <alex73> elias_a: if you use that script,  ctrl shift t will work
[11:06] <k1l_> alex73: it works without some scripts.
[11:06] <elias_a> k1l_: What puzzles me is that there used to be "open new tab" in the menu anymore.
[11:06] <thegame> @cfhowlett ?????????
[11:07] <k1l_> elias_a: its not in the menu, but the shortcut works. so the question is: what did you change there
[11:07] <elias_a> And this is quite newly reinstalled.
[11:07] <alex73> elias_a: go to preferences, do you see 'open new terminals' ?
[11:07] <thegame> helooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[11:08] <cfhowlett> !ops | thegame kick/ban request
[11:08] <thegame> its time to play the game !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:08] <elias_a> alex73: I have to figure out which menu is which as I use ubuntu in Finnish.
[11:08] <thegame> you cant kick ,eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:08] <alex73> elias_a: Make sure it's set to 'tabs' and not windows (when you do the shorcut do it do anything?)
[11:08] <alex73> elias_a: Aha I see
[11:09] <elias_a> alex73: First dropdown menu from the left?
[11:09] <thegame> who willl see wwe ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[11:09] <alex73> elias_a: I haven't used gnome terminal in years. Maybe
[11:09] <alex73> It's finnnish for options/preferences ?
[11:10] <alex73> elias_a: try it. https://i.stack.imgur.com/aHvHN.png <----- the new window looks like this
[11:10] <elias_a> alex73, k1l_ : I found the problem. The keyboard shortcuts are disabled altogether.
[11:10] <k1l_> alex73: that doesnt change  anything on that the shortcut i named has to work.
[11:10] <k1l_> there we go
[11:11] <alex73> k1l_: He didn't say whether the command did anything. Check on the off chance that it was opening windows
[11:11] <alex73> elias_a: and nice :)
[11:12] <elias_a> alex73, k1l_ Thank you!
[11:12] <elias_a> Now it works like charm.
[11:13] <elias_a> I suppose gnome-terminal settings are saved in /home/user ? I'd of course like them to survive reinstall and so forth.
[11:14]  * dimisdas creeks
[11:16] <alex73> elias_a: It's been a while, not sure if this is still the correct config location: ~/.gconf/apps/gnome-terminal
[11:17] <maja> any one use recordmydesktop and get very pixalated results ?
[11:17] <EriC^^> maja: obs project is way better for some stuff
[11:17] <EriC^^> https://obsproject.com/
[11:19] <ostekake> Hello! I am trying to set a user account password expiery date on Ubuntu Server, but I only find the "chage -E" option making the entire account expire instead. I don't want to use the max days option, I want to set a date instead. is that possible?
[11:19] <maja> EriC^^: i am in terminal and just talking about some code
[11:20] <maja> but pixals take too long to update and i get artifacts all over
[11:20] <EriC^^> maja: odd, i'd try obsproject though, i really like it
[11:21] <maja> EriC^^: not avalible from repo ?
[11:21] <EriC^^> no, i dont think so
[11:21] <EriC^^> !info obsproject
[11:21] <EriC^^> !info obs-studio
[11:21] <maja> ahh custom repo
[11:22] <maja> not my fave but it will do
[11:22] <EriC^^> maja: it's pretty powerful ;)
[11:22] <ducasse> EriC^^: on my machine it's visible in universe
[11:22] <EriC^^> it is? what's the package name?
[11:22] <maja> EriC^^: just as long as it doesn't pixualate
[11:23] <ducasse> EriC^^: obs-studio
[11:23] <EriC^^> ah it is, odd
[11:23] <EriC^^> maja: try sudo apt-get install obs-studio
[11:23] <maja> is working :)
[11:26] <maja> EriC^^: installed but isn't doing much
[11:26] <maja> i press record and not much happens
[11:27] <EriC^^> do you have sources selected?
[11:29] <maja> sources screen cap but doesn't seem to output a file
[11:32] <maja> EriC^^: and it works :D
[11:33] <maja> thanks
[11:39] <masami> hey, i'm new to Linux and i have question. What's the best way to copy *large* files from ubuntu computer to external hard drive? i guess ctrl-c and ctrl-v is not reliable. pls help.
[11:39] <cfhowlett> masami, the copy command is cp ...
[11:40] <masami> cfhowlett: do you know gui app for that? so that there's something like indicator to let me know when copying is finished
[11:41] <cfhowlett> masami, terminal time: man cp     will give you all the details, but the --verbose option will display progress
[11:41] <k1l> masami: first look if your filesystem on the external hdd can make use of that big files (like 4gb limit on fat). then you can use the gui file explorer and use crtl+c and ctrl+v. but you can use rsync if you want to be very sure
[11:42] <k1l> masami: why do you think the file browser is not good for this?
[11:43] <masami> cfhowlett: i type terminal time: man cp on terminal? like that?
[11:43] <cfhowlett> masami, yep.
[11:43] <cfhowlett> first the dash >> terminal
[11:43] <cfhowlett> open the terminal and type man cp
[11:43] <masami> k1l: i just formatted a 4TB using gnome disk utility to encrypted (because i read it gives secutiry). what do you mean sorry?
[11:44] <masami> ..now it is a blank hard disk
[11:44] <k1l> masami: i ask why you think the gui copyprocess is not reliable.
[11:45] <trudko> Hello ;), what's going on with Ubuntu? I've been using Ubuntu Gnome since 16.04 (previous was using ElementaryOS and Ubuntu before that) and I am experiencing general unstabillity. I had to ignore at least 3 reported errors on startup ,I still have a problem of automatically switching fly mode on and off(i think this was also reported), audio isn't switched automatically when I plug in and out the headphones, suspend when I closed the l
[11:46] <trudko> problem is that twice during last week I got log out when I locked the screen(hopefully this is just temporally) , is this case of bad luck, me doing something really wrong or quality of Ubuntu isn't what it used to be ?....
[11:46] <trudko> Really I need stable Linux Distro where I dont have to configure that much so I can focus on my work
[11:46] <BluesKaj> HI folks
[11:47] <masami> cfhowlett: can you give example how to use the command you sent?
[11:47] <Haris> guys, how to show bw graph in Mb/s rather than MB/s ?
[11:47] <Haris> bits vs bytes
[11:48] <cfhowlett> masami, cp location1filename location2filename --verbose
[11:49] <masami> cfhowlett: ok. and there will be ETA?
[11:49] <OlofL> Does ubuntu support switchable graphices for laptops? i have amd and intel graphics on hp laptop
[11:49] <Haris> oops wrong window
[11:54] <ostekake> Hello! Trying to create a bash script to learn (task in a book) but I fail at the first part. I need to check weather a disk exists, I do this by checking for it in /dev/sd* (as it's not mounted) but my bash fails and can't see /dev/sdd even though it exists. https://hastebin.com/etajuhosed.bash
[11:54] <masami> ok i get it. thanks
[11:56] <ducasse> ostekake: try -b instead of -f
[11:57] <ostekake> ok trying thanks ducasse : )
[11:58] <ostekake> thank you that worked ducasse!
[11:58] <ducasse> ostekake: /dev/sdd is not a regular file :)
[11:58] <ostekake> I noticed, but I thought I could treat it like a file any how as it's not a directory
[11:59] <ostekake> apparantly my view of files is too boolean
[12:07] <geirha> Also, use [[ ]] instead of [ ] for testing files, and printf instead of echo
[12:07] <tatertots> OlofL: yes
[12:07] <tatertots> OlofL: do you need a hand with it?
[12:12] <OnceMe> how can I get rid of ppa-s?
[12:12] <OnceMe> I want only truested repo sources
[12:12] <k1l> !ppa-purge | OnceMe
[12:13] <CroniX> I love pork
[12:13] <k1l> !ppa-purge | OnceMe
[12:13] <ducasse> ubottu seems ill
[12:13] <OnceMe> ?
[12:14] <OnceMe> where can I see lists of all ppa-s?
[12:14] <OnceMe> I want manually ot remove it
[12:14] <OnceMe> and should I remove apps I have installed via it?
[12:14] <k1l> OnceMe: you better use ppa-purge since that removes the apps automatically
[12:17] <Tessargi> Can anyone tell me where are the settings for the „taskbar” are stored? I'm trying to modify the default shortcuts for guest-session
[12:17] <k1l> OnceMe: you can see the ppas when running "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/"
[12:18] <ostekake> hello! Trying to create a bash script, and ..I think it should work, but getting unexpeted end of file (want to test it, it probably fails and is terrible now), could any one take a look? :) https://hastebin.com/ilaheyukuw.bash
[12:34] <backbox> hep
[12:47] <Legal> ostekake, you have 4 instances of if but only 3 of fi, so one if statement is not closed...
[12:48] <ostekake> Legal, thanks, looking at it now. I updated but I cannot for the love of god find out where the last fi should be https://hastebin.com/vukecayugu.bash
[12:49] <ostekake> (i should be 0, I know)
[12:51] <EriC^^> ostekake: the if on line 20 needs to be closed
[12:52] <EriC^^> also the one on line 18 is extra
[12:52] <ostekake> thank you EriC^^!
[12:55] <EriC^^> ostekake: why are you mounting /dev/sda in line 28? seems like a typo?
[12:55] <ostekake> that is correct!
[12:55] <ostekake> I don't really know much, learning as I go
[12:56] <ostekake> thank you for pointing it out :)
[12:56] <ostekake> the script actually seems to work now though, I'm happy
[12:57] <PradipW> hi
[12:57] <aamutahti> Hi, does anyone know if its possible to generate a initramfs that uses cryptsetup with a detached header using update-initramfs?
[12:59] <EriC^^> ostekake: no problem
[12:59] <EriC^^> that's good
[12:59] <JFox762> Hi guys
[13:00] <Luv1> Hi, I am new to Linux based Operating systems. I would like to know more about coding, primarily OSD. Can somebody help me. I know C and C++.
[13:00] <JFox762> So ummm Im thinking of getting a 2nd hard drive to install onto my desktop pc (Which is basically my gaming workhorse) and install Ubuntu onto that 2nd Drive...
[13:00] <JFox762> this is just to experiment with
[13:00] <JFox762> how big a drive would you recommend?
[13:00] <JFox762> Im new to linux
[13:00] <PradipW> Hello.
[13:01] <EriC^^> JFox762: anything over 20gb will do
[13:01] <JFox762> Would I find myself filling up that 2nd drive by *A LOT*
[13:01] <Legal> JFox762, 10TB, Helium seagate. But anything modern will do :)
[13:01] <aamutahti> JFox762, linux doesn't take much space, maybe 20GB with the OS and a bunch of applcications. Just depends on how much space you want for media
[13:01] <JFox762> well i plan to keep aall my games and media on my windows drive
[13:01] <k1l> JFox762: its up to you. minimum would be like 10-15GB
[13:02] <aamutahti> JFox762: you can access ntfs from linux
[13:02] <aamutahti> i.e your windows drive
[13:02] <JFox762> Oh ok... so would a 500 gb hd last me a while?
[13:02] <aamutahti> yes absolutely
[13:02] <k1l> JFox762: the ubuntu systen uses around 10gb. the rest is the stuff you store on the hdd.
[13:03] <JFox762> when Im booted into linux...
[13:03] <brunch875> JFox762: I am using a 120GB ssd where I install everything
[13:03] <JFox762> i can't affect the files on the windows drive... right?
[13:03] <brunch875> JFox762: you can access the windows drive and edit it as you please
[13:03] <JFox762> hmm ... so if i screw something up in linux
[13:03] <JFox762> i can screw up my windows drivE?
[13:03] <k1l> JFox762: you can mount the windows partitions, yes.
[13:04] <JFox762> brb... but feel free to answer...
[13:04] <brunch875> JFox762: If you do something wild which breaks linux, it won't affect the windows partition, no
[13:04] <brunch875> mostly
[13:05] <brunch875> now then, you can always get in the windows partition and hit the delete key a couple of times while selecting folder
[13:05] <brunch875> is that what you mean by screwup?
[13:10] <OlofL> tatertots: maybe soon :) if ubuntu supports it, does also kubuntu then?
[13:10] <EriC^^> JFox762: if you run a command that uses root privileges you could screw it up big time
[13:11] <EriC^^> especially stuff related to disks and partitioning
[13:12] <JFox762> so is there a way to set up my partition...
[13:12] <Condor_Peregrino> Guys Im trying to format my encrypted internal HDD drive. I have already used the chown command to give me the attributes to doanything on the drive.The thing is I want to format it and doesnt let me
[13:12] <JFox762> so that my Windows Drive HDD
[13:12] <JFox762> and my Linux HDD... are completely separate
[13:12] <JFox762> so that if I boot into linux Hdd
[13:12] <JFox762> it can't access anything from the Windows HDD?
[13:13] <EriC^^> so just don't run random stuff, and always see which name is in the command
[13:13] <JFox762> not even see the partition?
[13:13] <Condor_Peregrino> all this started because I formatted my system from cero and now all the system is a little bit weird, small
[13:13] <Condor_Peregrino> why is this?
[13:13] <EriC^^> like /dev/sda isn't the same as /dev/sda4
[13:13] <EriC^^> JFox762: yeah you can pass a parameter to the bootloader grub and it won't let linux see it at all
[13:14] <JFox762> Ok...
[13:14] <tatertots> OlofL: yes
[13:15] <JFox762> my ultimate goal, eventually, is two have 4 drives on my PC... I eventually want to take my current 1TB HDD, and replace it with a 2TB SSHD for my Windows.... and just migrate everything over to it
[13:15] <JFox762> then my 1 TB, I will format it, and turn it into a linux hdd
[13:15] <JFox762> and then....
[13:16] <JFox762> perhaps two drives of 1 TB each in a Raid 1 Config for stable storage of important documents, etc...
[13:16] <alkisg> JFox762: you can also use virtualbox to setup and test ubuntu in a virtual machine inside windows, without getting a new hard drive
[13:16] <JFox762> I tried virtualbox... but it was sluggish
[13:16] <JFox762> Which is crazy because my system is pretty decent
[13:17] <JFox762> i5 4690k
[13:17] <alkisg> Did you give it 2 or 4 cores?
[13:17] <JFox762> GTX 970
[13:17] <JFox762> and I think I have 16gb
[13:17] <JFox762> I have no idea
[13:17] <JFox762> Im not on my desktop
[13:17] <alkisg> The default is to be single core, that's one of the reasons it would be sluggish
[13:17] <alkisg> The other would be "no client graphics drivers"
[13:18] <JFox762> im on my C720 Chromebook running GalliumOS (a xubuntu distro)
[13:18] <JFox762> Gallium OS is my first experience with Linux
[13:19] <JFox762> I have to say I like it so far... but it is limited in strong part due to the fact that my chromebook has very limited specifications
[13:29] <akash_> Hello people, do anyone familiar with yum commands?
[13:30] <ikevin> akash_, maybe yes, so why asking about yum on an ubuntu channel?
[13:31] <akash_> ikevin: I use ubuntu and thought this is the best channel to get knowledge with ubuntu related jobs :)
[13:31] <django_> how can you restore to original settings lol
[13:35] <akash_> ikevin: Have you used yum before?
[13:36] <ikevin> yep, so not under ubuntu and not for advanced use
[13:37] <ikevin> akash_, what problem you have with yum?
[13:40] <akash_> ikevin: Recently I installed yum, and when I use sudo yum install <name of the package>. It throws some error with https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/HKfSorLl/
[13:41] <JFox762> oops
[13:42] <ikevin> akash_, and repo list give you a valid list of repo?
[13:43] <akash_> ikevin: No, when I follow yum repolist all, it shows zero
[13:44] <ikevin> akash_, so, add some repo :p
[13:47] <JFox762> is there some way to run memtest86 equivalent on linux?
[13:48] <ikonia> you don't run it from within an OS
[13:48] <ikonia> it's a boot option
[13:48] <ikonia> if you run it from within the OS - it's not going to be a sane test
[13:48] <JFox762> hmmm....
[13:48] <JFox762> thing is... uhh
[13:48] <JFox762> Im on a chromebook c720
[13:49] <JFox762> running gallium OS
[13:49] <ikonia> then why are you in this channel ?
[13:49] <ikonia> asking for help, as this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[13:49] <JFox762> well it is based on ubuntu
[13:49] <nils_> Hello all, this my first message. Hope you have a great day!
[13:50] <ikonia> it's not ubuntu though
[13:50] <ikonia> and this channel only supports ubuntu
[13:50] <RxMcDonald> Hello, anyone knows how to block ubuntu from computing? It keeps going and I don't know how to stop
[13:50] <ikonia> RxMcDonald: whats the problem
[13:50] <JFox762> sorry
[13:51] <ikonia> JFox762: no problem
[13:51] <RxMcDonald> ikonia: It keeps computing but I need to compute something else
[13:51] <ikonia> RxMcDonald: explain the problem "it's computing" means nothing
[13:52] <ic3cdr> Hi
[13:52] <RxMcDonald> ikonia: the CPU keeps going and going and I need to compute other things
[13:52] <ikonia> RxMcDonald: what is it being used by
[13:53] <RxMcDonald> ikonia: Ubuntu keeps computing and i can't do anything It's computing with the CPU
[13:53] <ikonia> RxMcDonald: what is using the cpu
[13:53] <RxMcDonald> ikonia: Ubuntu
[13:53] <ikonia> RxMcDonald: no it's not
[13:53] <ikonia> RxMcDonald: what process is using the cpu
[13:54] <RxMcDonald> Ubuntu keeps computing, I can't do anything
[13:54] <ikonia> RxMcDonald: how do you know this
[13:54] <ikonia> how do you know it's "computing"
[13:55] <RxMcDonald> Because I can see the computer CPU with a green light in front of it
[13:55] <ikonia> RxMcDonald: sorry, I'm not accepting this as a diagnosis
[13:55] <RxMcDonald> It is flashing very fast so it's still computing
[13:55] <ikonia> RxMcDonald: lets start from the begining, what version of ubuntu is this
[13:55] <theptr> Does anybody know a good chat client for ubuntu ? I want to use if possible facebook messenger irc and whatsapp in 1 client :)
[13:56] <ikonia> theptr: you'll be dissapointed then
[13:56] <RxMcDonald> ubuntu 6.10
[13:56] <ikonia> RxMcDonald: then it's not supported
[13:56] <theptr> ikonia, is it not possible ?
[13:56] <geirha> Hopefully you accidentally left out the leading 1 there
[13:56] <RxMcDonald> ikonia: ok how do I add more ubuntu in the CPU?
[13:56] <ikonia> RxMcDonald: sorry - we don't support ubuntu 6.10 here
[13:57] <ikonia> it's an end of life distirbution
[13:57] <RxMcDonald> ikonia: tell me how to increase the ubuntu in the CPU please
[13:57] <ikonia> and I've got to be honest, I think this is a "troll" question
[13:57] <ikonia> RxMcDonald: no, 6.10 is end of life
[13:57] <RxMcDonald> yes but how do I increase the ubuntu?
[13:57] <ikonia> as if any cpu has a flashing light on the mother board to show how hard its working
[13:57] <ikonia> RxMcDonald: discussion over, your distribution is not supported,
[13:58] <RxMcDonald> but I want to increase ubuntu to supported CPU
[13:58] <geirha> Support for Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft ended April 2008
[13:58] <theptr> ikonia, i think he wants to know how to upgrade his ubuntu to for example 16.04
[13:58] <pauljw> theptr, try pidgin
[13:58] <theptr> pauljw, going to give it a try
[13:59] <ikonia> theptr: I don't think thats the case at all,
[13:59] <cfhowlett> sorry guys, but RxMcDonald is a confirmed troll.  comes by about every 10 days with off the wall queries such as this.  best to add to /ignore
[13:59] <ikonia> cfhowlett: thank you, I suspected as much
[13:59] <theptr> cfhowlett, that makes sense :)
[14:10] <Condor_peregrino> guys I have reinstall my systema and all the installation process has been very complicated. Now all that is installation doesnt work or works slowly
[14:10] <Condor_peregrino> why can this be?
[14:10] <ikonia> define doesn't work please Condor_peregrino
[14:17] <Condor_peregrino> ikonia: for example I want to install the "Terminator" terminal. I did a successful installation through the terminal without any problem. Then I try to open it from Ubuntu menu and it tries to open but nothing happens. Then I run the command "Terminator" form the terminal and it works awesome. That happens with many packages that Im trying to install
[14:18] <ikonia> Condor_peregrino: thats not being slow
[14:19] <ikonia> Condor_peregrino: that suggests to me the place you're installing to is not in the desktops path/location aware, so it can't open the applications
[14:24] <Taxicletter> Good afternoon!
[14:24] <Taxicletter> I have a problem... maybe someone can help me...
[14:25] <blocky> Taxicletter: I guess we'll never know
[14:25] <Taxicletter> Unless I ask a question, of course!
[14:25] <Taxicletter> :-D
[14:25] <Taxicletter> I'm on Xubuntu and I have an external USB drive, FAT, with my music on it.
[14:26] <Taxicletter> I just took a backup from that drive with Back In Time. Now I want to copy some more music to it, but I have no acces, While me myself am the owner??
[14:27] <Taxicletter> With read/write permissions. The group is also my name, but only read permissions. I try to change that in the property window, but that doesn't work...
[14:27] <Taxicletter> SO, blocky... can you help? :-)
[14:27] <BluesKaj> Taxicletter, do you have the drive UUID entered in /etc/fstab?
[14:29] <Taxicletter> I don't think so, I didn't do that anyway.
[14:31] <yeeve> Anyone in chat using VOIP softphone software for their PC? I tried to setup our windows version using wine/mono but although it installs when I load it I just get a black app window and high CPU usage
[14:31] <ikonia> use a native linux one
[14:32] <yeeve> Any recommendations?
[14:32] <Taxicletter> In fstab is only my harddrive, it says to use blkid and than I have it there:"/dev/sdc1: LABEL="MUZIK" UUID="192F-1717" TYPE="vfat"
[14:32] <Taxicletter> "
[14:32] <ikonia> doesn't the astrix client support softphone ?
[14:32] <yeeve> ikonia, I'm new to this, don't know about astrix but the windows one is 3CX,
[14:33] <ikonia> yeeve: look up astrix
[14:33] <ikonia> yeeve: see if the client does enough of what you want
[14:33] <Pici> *asterisk
[14:34] <Condor_peregrino> ikonia: I agree, how can I fix this?. How can I detect what is real problem?
[14:34] <ikonia> thanks Pici
[14:34] <ikonia> Condor_peregrino: I'd look at the programs you are installing them. how you are installing them, then research how to setup unitys desktop to be aware of those locations
[14:34] <yeeve> Can't seem to find astrix/asterisk clients but there is a lot of recommendations for Ekiga so I'll start there
[14:35] <hateball> yeeve: what you want is a SIP client, and Ekiga is one
[14:35] <Condor_peregrino> ikonia: all the programs has been installed from Ubuntu software center, thats why I have this doubts. They should be installed correctly with no problem or not?
[14:35] <BluesKaj> Taxicletter, for example here's my outboard sata drive entry in /etc/fstab : UUID=b56bb1a6-e887-4383-aaeb-e9ad50d34f47 /media/kaj  ext4  defaults  0    1
[14:35] <yeeve> I see hateball thanks for the clarification :) pretty new to this stuff
[14:35] <Condor_peregrino> ikonia: should I use my SSD for all the programs and the storage on the HDD?
[14:35] <Condor_peregrino> ikonia: both disks are encrypted
[14:36] <Taxicletter> @BluesKaj this is what mount gives about that drive: /dev/sdc1 on /media/jonathan/MUZIK type vfat (ro,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,showexec,utf8,flush,errors=remount-ro,uhelper=udisks2)
[14:36] <hateball> yeeve: and well, your voip solution needs to use standards of course, so you dont in fact have to use some combo of a particular proprietary client
[14:37] <ikonia> Condor_peregrino: you don't normally get a choice the installer will install in common locations (eg: /usr/bin) it's up to you if you use the ssd for that or not
[14:37] <BluesKaj> Taxicletter,, use sudo blkid for the UUID of your drive
[14:37] <yeeve> I thought as much hateball but I had to try the windows client first to please management, it does't work so now I'll look for a native linux client which will fit our needs. Do you have any recommendations? Ekiga has poor reviews in SoftCent but I'm still happy to try it out
[14:38] <Taxicletter> I did, I already posted that: /dev/sdc1: LABEL="MUZIK" UUID="192F-1717" TYPE="vfat"
[14:39] <BluesKaj> that's not a UUID m use blkid for it
[14:40] <hateball> yeeve: Not really, I've mostly used Ekiga. Just try it and see if  it goes well
[14:40] <yeeve> Ok hateball I will do :thumbs-up:
[14:41] <Condor_peregrino> ikonia: perfect
[14:41] <Taxicletter> BluesKaj, this is the complete output of blkid: ~$ blkid
[14:41] <Taxicletter> ~$ blkid
[14:41] <BluesKaj> sudo blkid
[14:41] <Taxicletter> Hm, it doesn't paste
[14:42] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[14:42] <Taxicletter> !pastebin
[14:43] <Condor_peregrino> ikonia: I have detected the error, how can I send you an image through here?
[14:43] <Condor_peregrino> ikonia: pastebin is for terminal but images?
[14:43] <Taxicletter> sudo blkid
[14:44] <BluesKaj> Condor_peregrino, imgur
[14:44] <EriC^^> Condor_peregrino: imgur.com
[14:44] <Taxicletter> Even line for line it doesn't paste? I don't know pastebin, I try it
[14:45] <BluesKaj> Taxicletter, sudo blkid in the terminal
[14:45] <Taxicletter> yes I know, and sudo or not, it gives the same result.
[14:46] <Taxicletter> for the other drives, i see a partuuid, but not for the usb drive, that only has a uuid
[14:46] <EriC^^> Taxicletter: what doesn't paste
[14:46] <Taxicletter> If I copy line per line from my terminal window, it seems to dissappear when I hit "enter" in HexChat.
[14:46] <BluesKaj> Taxicletter, lsusb
[14:47] <Taxicletter> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[14:47] <Taxicletter> Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[14:47] <Taxicletter> Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[14:47] <Taxicletter> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[14:47] <Taxicletter> Bus 001 Device 011: ID 357d:7788 Sharkoon QuickPort XT
[14:47] <Taxicletter> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0dbf:021b Jess-Link International USB-2.0 IDE Adapter
[14:48] <BluesKaj> Taxicletter, that's why I suggested pastebin, to prevent flooding
[14:49] <EriC^^> Taxicletter: you don't need to put it to fstab unless you plan on using it all the time and having it automount and stuff
[14:49] <Taxicletter> Oops. Sorry BluesKaj
[14:49] <Taxicletter> Okay, but how come I can't write to it anymore, suddenly?
[14:50] <Taxicletter> I'm the owner, I can see, and I have read and write permissions.
[14:50] <EriC^^> Taxicletter: you mounted via something with elevated privileges probably
[14:50] <Taxicletter> Only the GROUP I'm in (same name as my user name) has only read permissions.
[14:50] <EriC^^> touch /media/jonathan/MUZIK/blablatest
[14:50] <Taxicletter> I unmounted and re-mounted in, but that didn't help
[14:51] <EriC^^> Taxicletter: try "ls -ld /media/jonathan/MUZIK", what's it say?
[14:52] <Taxicletter> It says: drwxr-xr-x 37 jonathan jonathan 32768 jan  1  1970 /media/jonathan/MUZIK
[14:52] <EriC^^> ok, type "id"
[14:52] <Taxicletter> Hm, that date is strange, no?
[14:53] <EriC^^> yeah, it's epoch date
[14:53] <Taxicletter> UID=1000(jonathan) GID=1000(jonathan) groepen=1000(jonathan),0(root),2(bin),3(sys),4(adm),20(dialout),21(fax),24(cdrom),25(floppy),26(tape),27(sudo),30(dip),37(operator),44(video),46(plugdev),50(staff),107(crontab),113(lpadmin),115(nopasswdlogin),128(sambashare)
[14:53] <EriC^^> maybe it just uses it as a filler
[14:53] <EriC^^> wow that's a *ton of stuff
[14:53] <Taxicletter> I tried to get me in every possible group, but I'm not finished yet, it's to many groups.
[14:53] <EriC^^> what for?
[14:53] <Taxicletter> I tried that to solve the writing problem
[14:54] <Taxicletter> I like linux a lot, but I go crazy from the permission stuff.
[14:54] <EriC^^> ok, try "touch /media/jonathan/MUZIK/blablatest"
[14:54] <Taxicletter> Nothing happens?
[14:55] <Sam54> Taxicletter take a look at chmod and chown
[14:55] <Taxicletter> yes, theres a new file in MUZIK
[14:55] <EriC^^> Taxicletter: that means it worked, try "ls -l /media/jonathan/MUZIK/blablatest"
[14:55] <EriC^^> Taxicletter: ok, so you can write then
[14:55] <Taxicletter> -rw-r--r-- 1 jonathan jonathan 0 feb 28 15:54 /media/jonathan/MUZIK/blablatest
[14:56] <EriC^^> ok, try copying the music over
[14:58] <Taxicletter> Nope. Still get the error message: read only
[14:58] <Taxicletter> Restart the whole computer maybe?
[14:58] <EriC^^> Taxicletter: what command are you running?
[14:58] <EriC^^> no
[14:58] <Taxicletter> I'm dragging the folder from my dropbox-folder to the MUZIK drive.
[14:59] <Taxicletter> I could sudo Thunar and then try again.
[14:59] <EriC^^> in thunar can you create a random file?
[15:01] <Taxicletter> sudo thunar did work. but WHY is this happening? I could drag files and folders to MUZIK with no problem, and suddenly not anymore...
[15:01] <dylan> hola
[15:01] <EriC^^> Taxicletter: when you do just "thunar /media/jonathan/MUZIK"
[15:01] <EriC^^> what happens?
[15:03] <Taxicletter> Then MUZIK opens (that's handy! thanks, good to know)
[15:07] <condorperegrinio> guys the error is this: https://imgur.com/a/iMgco
[15:07] <condorperegrinio> how can I fix it?
[15:07] <ikevin> condorperegrinio, when doing what?
[15:08] <ikevin> condorperegrinio, if you read the message, you know what do to to fix it
[15:08] <ducasse> condorperegrinio: read what it says under 'the package system is broken'
[15:09] <EriC^^> Taxicletter: can you create a random file?
[15:09] <ikevin> "it say me 'click here' what can i do"? :x
[15:10] <Taxicletter> I don't know what you mean. I can make an openoffice document ?
[15:10] <ikevin> Taxicletter, touch <file>
[15:11] <Taxicletter> ah
[15:11] <Taxicletter> yep, that worked (like before in the MUZIK folder)
[15:18] <Carly> Guys where to I go to get some help I forget
[15:19] <ikonia> help with that ?
[15:19] <EriC^^> Taxicletter: no i mean like right click new document
[15:20] <Taxicletter> EriC^^ yes that works
[15:24] <Carly> I created a bootable drive to put and E64 Ubuntu 16.04 on my computer and somehow it ended up just being the shell now all I have is a black screen with the command line that doesn't seem to like me very much and it definitely will not give me anything I can't do a sudo command because it keeps coming back with a failed attempt to fetch archives
[15:24] <Carly> I'm not extremely experienced so any help would be much appreciated
[15:25] <Carly> All of the errors are saying temporary failure resolving us.archive.ubuntu.co
[15:26] <RxMcDonald> Hello, anyone can help me increase the amount of Ubuntu inside of my CPU?
[15:27] <BluesKaj> Carly, try the recovery kernel, and enable networking when the menu shows up, then sudo update && sudo upgrade
[15:27] <blocky> RxMcDonald: have you tried a hammer and chisel?
[15:27] <ducasse> RxMcDonald: this isn't going to suddenly turn funny just because you keep trying
[15:29] <Carly> Blueskaj how do I address you and my message again I forget? Also I have no idea what the recovery kernel is I'm just looking at literally a black terminal page so what would I type in first
[15:30] <BluesKaj> Carly, sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade rather
[15:30] <tatertots> RxMcDonald: open terminal
[15:30] <EriC^^> Carly: you installed ubuntu then you started the pc and got a black screen?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> Carly, did you see a bootloader with ubuntus listed, it's called grub
[15:31] <Taxicletter> Thanks for the help BluesKaj and EriC^^ I have to go now, see you later maybe!
[15:31] <RxMcDonald> tatertots: Yes I'm on the computer right now
[15:31] <EriC^^> Taxicletter: no problem, see ya
[15:31] <Carly> Blueskaj I did this you don't have to update and Sue to apt upgrade and I keep getting the errors it's failing to fetch the u.s. archives it says temporary failure resolving us.archive.ubuntu
[15:31] <Carly> .com
[15:31] <filt3r> hello, where can i get previouse kernel versions of the ubuntu kernel? i need to reproduce a bug which was on the "4.4.0-31-generic #50-Ubuntu" kernel.
[15:31] <Carly> Yeah grub was installed
[15:32] <Carly> Not necessarily a black screen but it had me log in and it's just a terminal screen there is no Ubuntu desktop or anything else it's just Bare Bones and I wanted to install the whole thing
[15:32] <EriC^^> Carly: which iso did you download?
[15:32] <nicomachus> Carly: do you not have a DE installed?
[15:32] <tatertots> RxMcDonald: in terminal>   sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[15:32] <Carly> Ubuntu server 16.04
[15:32] <tatertots> RxMcDonald: let me know when its done
[15:33] <EriC^^> Carly: server is without gui
[15:33] <ducasse> tatertots: please don't feed the troll
[15:33] <xheart> hi everyone
[15:33] <xheart> if i have ubuntu 16.04 can i also install kubuntu?
[15:33] <BluesKaj> Carly, no desktop with the server edition
[15:33] <Carly> Nicomachus how do I address you in my.msg I forget how to do that
[15:33] <Carly> Not quite sure with a de is
[15:33] <nicomachus> Carly: you just did.
[15:34] <RxMcDonald> tatertots: I am not a computer engineer
[15:34] <nicomachus> it's a desktop environment. The GUI.
[15:34] <nicomachus> RxMcDonald: please just leave.
[15:34] <Carly> Isn't there an easier way?
[15:34] <BluesKaj> desktop environment =de
[15:34] <nicomachus> Carly: you have a terminal now, right?
[15:34] <Carly> Okay well if there is no desktop then how can I get it on there via the server and why am I getting all these issues yes I have the terminal open right now but I'm getting errors after errors
[15:35] <nicomachus> Carly: easy peasy: sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop
[15:35] <Carly> I tried to connect to Wi-Fi again  but it didn't work
[15:35] <BluesKaj> Carly, you have no internet connection to the repositories
[15:35] <nicomachus> xheart: yes, you just have to install kde
[15:35] <nicomachus> xheart: and then remove unity, if you want.
[15:36] <xheart> is kubuntu a more complete OS than Lubuntu?
[15:37] <nicomachus> neither is more "complete" than the other. They are the same OS with different desktop environments.
[15:37] <Carly> Nicomachus again I am only getting failed to fetch some archives maybe run apt get update or try with --fix-mssiing
[15:37] <nicomachus> Carly: you're going to need an internet connection.
[15:37] <Carly> It had me set up the internet on initial.boot
[15:37] <k1l> xheart: lubuntus target is slow and old hardware. so its reduced some services
[15:38] <xheart> ok so kubuntu is better?
[15:38] <ducasse> xheart: 'better' is subjective
[15:38] <Carly> Blueskaj how do I get the error of unable to fetch archives fixed
[15:39] <xheart> got it
[15:39] <Carly> Nicomachus I have one
[15:39] <Carly> Internet is gtg
[15:39] <Carly> Should I hard wire?
[15:39] <k1l> xheart: if you do like kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu, ubuntu mate, ubuntu budgie etc. more, its your choice.
[15:40] <EriC^^> Carly: sure
[15:40] <EriC^^> Carly: try to set the internet up and be able to ping google.com
[15:41] <Carly> How do I ping from terminal
[15:41] <nicomachus> `ping`
[15:41] <EriC^^> ping google.com'
[15:41] <Carly> Unknown host google.com
[15:41] <EriC^^> Carly: try ping 8.8.8.8
[15:42] <Carly> Connect: network is unreachable
[15:42] <Carly> Hard wire it is
[15:42] <EriC^^> Carly: did you put an ethernet cable in?
[15:42] <Carly> Right?
[15:43] <EriC^^> Carly: well you could do wifi too
[15:43] <Carly> No give me two seconds have to relocate
[15:43] <EriC^^> ok
[15:43] <SwamiDevaNiravo> Carly: if the internet cable is plug on pc, you have to nano /etc/resolv.conf and put the nameserver (dns) here
[15:43] <BluesKaj> Carly, if you setup a wifi connection during the installation , it's obviously no connected now , so use an ethernet connection if possible (hard wired)
[15:43] <tatertots> Carly: hard wire the system, and really give some thought to if you really require ubuntu "server"...sounds like you'd be very dependent on a gui
[15:45] <BluesKaj> Carly, you can install ubuntu-dektop on the server editon , it will work just fine
[15:45] <BluesKaj> err desktop
[15:46] <Carly> Blueskaj I'm hard wired in now and things look no good....Keep getting the failed to fetch error
[15:47] <BluesKaj> Carly, sudo dhclient
[15:47] <SwamiDevaNiravo> Carly: ifconfig , and see the ip address. is it right ?
[15:47] <SwamiDevaNiravo> Carly: are you on the irc on the server linux ?
[15:48] <Carly> .Blueskaj nothing happens
[15:48] <EriC^^> Carly: try ping 8.8.8.8 now
[15:48] <Carly> I downloaded the iso to a bootable USB and ended up with just his terminal that keeps giving me errors
[15:48] <BluesKaj> Carly,o r try sudo apt update
[15:48] <tatertots> Carly: hard wire the system, and really give some thought to if you really require ubuntu "server"...sounds like you'd be very dependent on a gui AND network manager
[15:49] <Carly> All I wanted was the regular desktop I have no idea how to fix this now
[15:49] <SwamiDevaNiravo> first the internet has tested
[15:49] <BluesKaj> looks like we have too many cooks as well
[15:49] <Carly> Blueskaj it worked
[15:50] <Carly> Ping worked
[15:50] <pavlos> can you ping google.com now?
[15:50] <Carly> Hangon
[15:50] <BluesKaj> ok now sudo apt upgrade , once the update finishes
[15:50] <Carly> It's not stopping with the first ping
[15:50] <filt3r> ok i figured it out :)
[15:50] <EriC^^> Carly: ctrl+c
[15:50] <SwamiDevaNiravo> apt upgrade goes upgrade the server files, without gui
[15:50] <Carly> Cool
[15:50] <pavlos> press ctrl c to stop the ping
[15:51] <Carly> Ping to google worked
[15:51] <pavlos> good ... follow what others wrote, sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[15:51] <BluesKaj> Carly, after the upgrade, sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop
[15:51] <Carly> It's working!!
[15:52] <pavlos> yeah
[15:52] <vlt> Hello. I'm connecting to an Ubuntu 16.04 machine via xrdp. How can I let this session appear in the output of`who` or `last`?
[15:52] <SwamiDevaNiravo> Carly : apt-get install kdebase kde-standard
[15:52] <Carly> Love I love you guys you are the best and so smart hopefully one day I will have as much knowledge of these systems as you
[15:53] <BluesKaj> Carly, did you want KDE/Plasma desktop ?
[15:53] <Carly> I went with Ubuntu desktop
[15:53] <Carly> It's working
[15:54] <SwamiDevaNiravo> ubuntu has gnome,kde,mate,xfce
[15:54] <Carly> Once this is done what should I do after that
[15:55] <Carly> Should I reboot
[15:55] <EriC^^> Carly: sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:55] <SwamiDevaNiravo> i'd choose kde to begginers users
[15:55] <EriC^^> Carly: then yeah reboot
[15:55] <Carly> Sweet ok
[15:55] <BluesKaj> Carly, if you're a former windows user KDE/Plasma desktop will look more familiar than Ubuntu/Unity desktop
[15:56] <Carly> Swamidevaniravo...I am szwedo beginner as I have Ubuntu desktop on all of my computer's and I'm trying to really kind of teach myself about it
[15:56] <BluesKaj> ok Carly , ubuntu-dektop it is then
[15:57] <SwamiDevaNiravo> Carly: apt-get install mate-archive-keyring    ( to install mate desktop )
[15:57] <Carly> Wow guys thanks again I have no clue what happened there. If you know what I may have done wrong or what happened and care to share with me so that I can learn and I would greatly appreciate it otherwise thanks again guys it means a lot
[15:57] <SwamiDevaNiravo> Carly: apt-get install mate-core
[15:58] <BluesKaj> SwamiDevaNiravo, ??
[15:58] <SwamiDevaNiravo> mate desktop
[15:58] <BluesKaj> just leave it for now, SwamiDevaNiravo
[15:58] <Carly> Swamidevaniravo what is mate core I'm almost done installing Ubuntu desktop
[15:58] <SwamiDevaNiravo> he knowns
[15:59] <k1l> Carly: mate is another desktop
[15:59] <SwamiDevaNiravo> keep this way then
[15:59] <nicomachus> SwamiDevaNiravo: please don't over-complicate things...
[15:59] <BluesKaj> Carly, mate is a different desktop, no point changing horses in midstream here
[15:59] <pavlos> Carly, another ubuntu flavor, see http://ubuntu-mate.org/
[16:00] <OerHeks> SwamiDevaNiravo, 'mate-archive-keyring' is a faulty package, it does not exist dude
[16:00] <SwamiDevaNiravo> repository dude
[16:01] <OerHeks> SwamiDevaNiravo, get your facts right, it does not exist in the ubuntu repos. mate-core and mate-desktop do, btw
[16:01] <SwamiDevaNiravo> then he can does
[16:02] <yakiza> HEllo everyone i just update my kernel in ubuntu 16.04 and   i am stuck in a login loop what should i do i am from my phone atm i try to   do this  chown username:username .Xauthority but it didnt worked
[16:02] <EriC^^> yakiza: does the guest account work?
[16:02] <yakiza> no  both of my acc i cant go in it just restarts the log in
[16:03] <yakiza> and btw now my  log in page has a black border arround
[16:03] <k1l> yakiza: try guest account on login to see if its a user setting of that real users.
[16:03] <EriC^^> yakiza: try "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | nc termbin.com 9999"
[16:04] <k1l> yakiza: if the guestaccount doesnt work, too, then reboot and user an older kernel on grub menu
[16:07] <yakiza> EriC^^:  i dont have internet
[16:07] <yakiza> k1l:   it doesnt work but i need a newer kernel
[16:07] <yakiza> k1l cause my old kernel doesnt support some things in my hardware
[16:07] <EriC^^> yakiza: try booting with the older kernel from grub
[16:08] <yakiza> no  let me try
[16:08] <EriC^^> yakiza: do you have nvidia?
[16:08] <yakiza> yes
[16:08] <k1l> yakiza: you said it worked before you did "some update".
[16:08] <bonsaitree> Any documentation on how to *properly* modify the sources.list? Let's say i want to add a faster server and remove the default one.
[16:08] <yakiza> k1l no it worked before i updated my kernel
[16:08] <k1l> yakiza:  so boot to that working kernel. so
[16:08] <yakiza> how can i enter grub enu?
[16:09] <k1l> *we can manage the failure
[16:09] <yakiza> thanks
[16:09] <yakiza> k1l how can i enter to the grub ?
[16:09] <k1l> yakiza: press lef shift on bootup. or esc. that depends on the mainboard settings
[16:11] <BluesKaj> left shift right after the logo page
[16:11] <yakiza> okay
[16:13] <yakiza> k1l i logged in from older kernel
[16:14] <k1l> yakiza: that works again?
[16:14] <yakiza> k1l my pc oppend normally it works
[16:14] <yakiza> but i need to upgrade to a newer kernel maybe i messed up the upgrade could you guide me ?
[16:15] <k1l> yakiza: "cat /var/log/apt/term.log | nc termbin.com 9999"
[16:15] <k1l> yakiza: what do you mean with "i need to upgrade to a newer kernel" and what did you do?
[16:16] <uskerine> hi, how can I install this package: https://nightly.odoo.com/extra/
[16:16] <Pranayama> he needs a newer kernel to enable hardware
[16:16] <uskerine> I have previously done this: wget -O - https://nightly.odoo.com/odoo.key | apt-key add -
[16:16] <uskerine> # echo "deb http://nightly.odoo.com/10.0/nightly/deb/ ./" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/odoo.list
[16:16] <yakiza> i cannot  do that because my ethernet cart doesnt work thats why i am upgrading to a newer kernel  , because i bought a new msi motherboard i found out that the current version of my kernel doesnt support my ethernet card so i have to upgrade it i did try to upgrade it but  you saw that i got a log in loop
[16:16] <yakiza> k1l
[16:17] <k1l> yakiza: what kernel are you on now "uname -a" will tell you, and what kernel did you install?
[16:18] <yakiza> 4.4.0
[16:18] <yakiza> -62
[16:20] <Pranayama> yakiza, which network card do you have?
[16:20] <yakiza> aeroth something it is because of kernel cause in ubuntu 16.10 that uses newer kernel my ethernet card works
[16:21] <Pranayama> yakiza : do you known the command MODPROBE ?
[16:21] <yakiza> Pranayama:  no i am not really experienced with linux
[16:22] <Pranayama> modprobe loads a driver of a card without compile the kernel
[16:22] <k1l> yakiza: did you make a new install?
[16:22] <OerHeks> yakiza, why don't you start with the 16.10??
[16:22] <yakiza> i did this
[16:22] <yakiza> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/install-linux-kernel-4-6-ubuntu-16-04/
[16:22] <bonsaitree> Why the *main* software repository is not present in the sources.list file? I have restricted, universe and multiverse, but *main* is not present. Thanks in advance.
[16:23] <k1l> that is a bad howto.
[16:23] <yakiza> cause    i have loads of things installed and i need my internet cause i have  some deadlines for 2 of my projects comming up and i dont have time to set up  a new system
[16:23] <k1l> yakiza: ubuntu ships the 4.8 kernel from 16.10 in the official repos.
[16:23] <X_asdasd> Any way to install google chrome on 32-bit lubuntu ?
[16:23] <yakiza> k1l here ? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.10-rc1/
[16:24] <k1l> bonsaitree: maybe you clicked that away in the system settings?
[16:24] <k1l> yakiza: no, that is the mainline kernel. they are missing a lot of ubuntu service
[16:24] <OerHeks> yakiza, curious, how did you install any software if you needed a newer kernel for networking, and that kernel never worked??
[16:24] <k1l> !hwe | yakiza
[16:24] <ducasse> X_asdasd: try chromium instead
[16:24] <charlie_sanders> X_asdasd, sure
[16:24] <k1l> X_asdasd: there is no 32bit chrome anymore.
[16:25] <X_asdasd> ohh shiit :/
[16:25] <yakiza> OerHeks:  i just changed my motherboard i didnt install anything i changed motherboard see that  ethernet doesnt work research i saw that it was kernels problem and i download with y phone the new kernel to install
[16:27] <yakiza> ubottu:   but i have to download  it i cant do it like this cause my machine doesnt have intent
[16:28] <yakiza> k1l what do you mean !hwe?
[16:28] <k1l> yakiza: see the bots message and link. there is a backports kernel from 16.10 to 16.04 that has support by ubuntu.
[16:29] <yakiza> k1l i checked it but i am kind of confused
[16:30] <ducasse> yakiza: you can tether your phone to get an internet connection, then install the hwe packages
[16:30] <yakiza> k1l dont i nned to download .deb files?
[16:31] <yakiza> ducasse tehter?
[16:31] <ducasse> yakiza: connect with usb cable
[16:32] <yakiza> ducasse:    i download the files to my phone then i pass it to my pc with usb i just dotn understand what  file to download
[16:33] <ioria> yakiza, we told you weeks ago to install 16.10 . why you haven't done that ? now you need to reboot on the that 4.6 kernel, and if ethernet works, install from the console the 16.10 kernel and xorg (maybe first purge your nvidia)
[16:34] <yakiza> ioria i know man  well reall life reasons no time...   i purged nvidia i just need to install newer kernel
[16:34] <bismark> i want to install openstack using conjure-up, but i want to do it using a 300 GB partition
[16:34] <yakiza> ioria i just dont have time to set up new system i have some deadlines close...
[16:34] <ioria> yakiza, reboot on 4.6 .... on that network works, right ?
[16:34] <bonsaitree> k1l:Isn't the *main* software repository the most important one which brings you the updates directly from Canonical? I think i haven't clicked that away, are you able to help me get that back?
[16:34] <bismark> where should i have to mount that partition?
[16:34] <yakiza> i dont have 4.6
[16:34] <yakiza> i just have 4.4
[16:35] <ioria> yakiza, sorry, haven't you install another kernel from mainline ppa ?
[16:35] <ioria> *ed
[16:35] <yakiza> i installed 4.10 but i get stuck in log in loop
[16:35] <yakiza> ioria
[16:36] <ioria> yakiza, can you boot with that kernel from grub ?
[16:36] <nacc> bonsaitree: main doesn't get updates, generally, fwiw -- it's the release archive, though
[16:36] <yakiza> yes give me a sec ioria
[16:36] <ioria> yakiza, if yes, just open a console
[16:36] <yakiza> ok
[16:36] <nacc> bonsaitree: 'main' just refers to the supported-ness of packages, technically
[16:37] <nacc> !components | bonsaitree
[16:38] <yakiza> ioria i am in
[16:38] <bonsaitree> nacc:Thanks
[16:38] <ioria> yakiza, ping www.google.com
[16:39] <k1l> bonsaitree: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999" and show that link here
[16:40] <yakiza1> ioria i can ping
[16:41] <ioria> yakiza, ok, so we want to install the 16.10 kernel and xorg ?
[16:41] <yakiza1> ioria yes but i dont want to loose filea
[16:42] <yakiza1> ioria if i can only upgrade just the kernel would be so nice
[16:42] <ioria> yakiza, no, you can't upgrade ... you need to install a different package
[16:42] <k1l> the hwe stack, to be precisse
[16:42] <ioria> yakiza, linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04
[16:43] <yakiza1> i write w gwt to that? ioria
[16:43] <yakiza1> wget
[16:43] <k1l> yakiza1: no, not wget
[16:43] <ioria> yakiza, wait, first purge nvidia   sudo apt purge nvidia
[16:43] <ioria> yakiza, wait, first purge nvidia   sudo apt purge nvidia*
[16:44] <yakiza1> ioria but nvidia in 16.04 works fine should i do it anyway? ioria
[16:44] <k1l> yakiza1: use apt to install official pacakges. "sudo apt install packagename" so it loads it from the repos and installs it.
[16:44] <ioria> yakiza, how did you install nvidia ?
[16:45] <ioria> yakiza, from ppa , from the official repo ?
[16:45] <yakiza1> from linux proprietary drivera i had done it with wifi usb
[16:45] <ioria> yakiza, f
[16:45] <yakiza1> ioria f?
[16:45] <ioria> yakiza, if you ask me, you need to unistall that
[16:46] <ioria> yakiza, if you want we can proced anyways
[16:46] <yakiza1> ok ok so i purge nvidia? i am just frustrated ioria
[16:46] <ioria> yakiza, you used the nvidia installer ?
[16:47] <yakiza1> no i went to additional drivers and from there i selected the ones i need and it worked
[16:48] <ioria> yakiza, ok...   sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04
[16:48] <yakiza1> i will do what you say i purged nvidia now ? ioria
[16:48] <ioria> yakiza, we'll see later run this,      sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04
[16:51] <Islamabad> is this chat online for question about ubuntu, or people can talk about everything ?
[16:51] <k1l> Islamabad: its the technical ubuntu support channel.
[16:51] <Southern_Gentlem> ubuntu enduser support
[16:52] <Islamabad> thank you
[16:53] <yakiza1> ioria ok done
[16:53] <ioria> yakiza, already done ?
[16:53] <yakiza1> yes
[16:54] <ioria> yakiza, so, reboot (from grub) with the 4.8.0.xx kernel
[16:54] <ioria> yakiza, sudo reboot
[16:55] <yakiza1> ok
[16:55] <ioria> yakiza, you probably need to enter 'Advanced Options'
[17:00] <yakiza1> ioria i i love you
[17:00] <egonsen> hi. systemd does not start lightdm (ubuntu 16.10). it shows the black/white login screen (tty). when i login there andn enter "$ sudo lightdm", lightdm is started normally. how can i solve this? i want lightdm to start after boot
[17:00] <ioria> yakiza, it's ok, mate ?
[17:00] <yakiza1> yes i am in
[17:01] <ioria> yakiza, good job, but now you need to remove (purge) that 4.10 kernel
[17:01] <ioria> yakiza, dpkg -l | grep linux-image | grep ii | pastebinit
[17:02] <ioria> yakiza, or    dpkg -l | grep linux-image | grep ii | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:02] <jarlath> I want to play audio from my Ubuntu laptop directly through discourse (as a user). I've tried the bot but the installer fails on x64 (I've tried loads of workarounds). Does anyone have this working on 16.04 or know a way to get it to work? Alternatively, something like Virtual Audio Cable for windows would work.
[17:02] <k1l> egonsen: what happened before? did you change anything?
[17:05] <egonsen> k1l, i cannot remember. i think i changed something many weeks ago (the last time i used ubuntu)
[17:05] <k1l> egonsen: changed what? like setting the boot to multiuser.target?
[17:05] <yakiza> ioria http://termbin.com/ve66
[17:05] <egonsen> also when i try to "$ sudo systemctl enable lightdm.service", i get: The unit files have no installation config (WantedBy, RequiredBy, Also, Alias
[17:05] <egonsen> settings in the [Install] section, and DefaultInstance for template units).
[17:05] <ioria> yakiza,  i think 4.10 is on top of the grub list,  so you'll automatically boot that... we want to remove that kernel ?
[17:05] <yakiza> yes ioria
[17:05] <ioria> yakiza,  sudo apt purge linux-image-4.10.0-041000rc1-generic      and paste the errors, in case
[17:06] <k1l> egonsen: "sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target"
[17:06] <kostkon> jarlath, install pavucontrol and set the monitor of your sound card as the input device for discource
[17:07] <egonsen> k1l, "$ sudo systemctl get-default" is already "graphical.target"
[17:07] <k1l> egonsen: sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm  #if you are running regular ubuntu which uses lightdm
[17:08] <egonsen> k1l, reconfigure will just overwrite my config, right? i'd rather understand what's going on atm to learn more about systemd
[17:08] <yakiza> ioria no error
[17:08] <ioria> yakiza,  sudo update-grub
[17:08] <k1l> egonsen: did you make changes to the lightdm config?
[17:08] <sarika> hello. I want to install ubuntu along with windows 7. can someone please tell me partitions after I select "something else" while booting Ubuntu 16 .04
[17:08] <yakiza> ioria http://termbin.com/o1dw
[17:09] <ioria> yakiza,  ok,  sudo update-grub
[17:09] <yakiza> http://termbin.com/tsp4
[17:09] <yakiza> i did
[17:09] <k1l> egonsen: well, then you want to read all the logs you can get. use journalctl for that
[17:09] <egonsen> k1l, /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf does not seem to be changed
[17:09] <yakiza> ioria just did http://termbin.com/tsp4
[17:10] <ioria> yakiza,  ok,  now you should boot on the new 4.8 kernel by default
[17:10] <yakiza> great ioria thank you so much
[17:10] <egonsen> k1l, how do i know where to start? i have to find the place where graphical.target is supposed to start lightdm, right?
[17:10] <ioria> yakiza,  no problem
[17:14] <k1l> egonsen: look at the status of lightdm and why its not starting
[17:39] <nick__> hi
[17:46] <feodoran> hi, I have a problem with my displays: I have to connected an both work during boot. But once loged in one of the two shows "no signal". I tried to change settings with xrandr to dis- and reanble it, but it stays black. Only thing working so far is to go via display settings. any ideas why it looses signal in the first place? I use amdgpu driver
[18:00] <rmanos> Hi all
[18:10] <L33T> anybody up?
[18:11] <nicomachus> L33T: well it's noon here so... yea
[18:11] <DJones> L33T: Just ask your Ubuntu support question, probably the best thing to start with
[18:11] <DJones> L33T: If anybody knows, they'll normally help out
[18:12] <L33T> DJones: Thanks and sorry , I was quite new to all these so pardon me  :)
[18:13] <DJones> L33T: No problem, if in doubt, you can always check the channel topic when you join, but I appreciate you're new here, just explain the issue you're having and see if anybody can help
[18:15] <ikonia> join #freeipa
[18:15] <ikonia> oops
[18:17] <unstablevet> working with ubuntu studio and im  trying to use an hp webcam
[18:18] <jarlath> kostkon: thank you, I'll try that!
[18:19] <unstablevet> anyone out there using an hp laptop?
[18:21] <roadrunneratwast> hi.  i am on the newest version of ubuntu and am getting a problem compiling packages for vmmware  http://pastebin.com/AE6GN8tT
[18:21] <ioria> unstablevet, not me, but you can start pasting   lsusb  output
[18:22] <k1l> unstablevet: i bet some do. but people in here can help better if there are more details. like what doesnt work exactly, what hardware etc
[18:22] <k1l> roadrunneratwast: what is the output of "lsb_release -sd"?
[18:23] <roadrunneratwast> k1l: Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[18:23] <roadrunneratwast> i didn't have this probelm with 16.04 before
[18:23] <roadrunneratwast> i don't think
[18:23] <unstablevet> cooper@cooper-HP-Pavilion-dv6700-Notebook-PC:~$ lsusb
[18:23] <unstablevet> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[18:23] <unstablevet> Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[18:23] <unstablevet> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[18:23] <unstablevet> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[18:23] <unstablevet> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[18:23] <unstablevet> Bus 004 Device 003: ID 046d:c52b Logitech, Inc. Unifying Receiver
[18:23] <k1l> roadrunneratwast: sorry i missread that you were not on the latest ubuntu. 16.04.2 is fine
[18:23] <roadrunneratwast> ok
[18:23] <ioria> unstablevet, not here, please  on paste.ubuntu.com
[18:23] <roadrunneratwast> any idea what the error means?
[18:23] <k1l> roadrunneratwast: what is "uname -a"?
[18:24] <roadrunneratwast> inux mitchell-ThinkPad-X230 4.8.0-36-generic #36~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Sun Feb 5 \
[18:24] <roadrunneratwast> 09:39:57 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:24] <k1l> roadrunneratwast: the .2 release is not a real new release. its just like a servicepack on windows. but you can use the backports kernel and xorg witht hat.
[18:24] <roadrunneratwast> ok
[18:24] <k1l> which you do
[18:24] <roadrunneratwast> ok
[18:24] <roadrunneratwast> any idea how to fix the install?
[18:24] <roadrunneratwast> of vmware?
[18:24] <nacc> roadrunneratwast: looks to be a mismatch between vmware and the kernel source
[18:24] <roadrunneratwast> ok
[18:24] <nacc> roadrunneratwast: probably ask vmware?
[18:25] <roadrunneratwast> ok
[18:25] <k1l> roadrunneratwast: are the proper kernel headers installed?
[18:26] <roadrunneratwast> i don't know.
[18:26] <roadrunneratwast> i installed build-essential
[18:26] <k1l> roadrunneratwast: is "linux-generic-hwe-16.04" installed?
[18:26] <roadrunneratwast> i don't know. this is a new install
[18:27] <roadrunneratwast> should i install these files?
[18:27] <k1l> nacc: i guess the hwe wiki site should link to linux-generic-hwe-16.04 and not the image meta package because that is missing the headers then
[18:27] <k1l> roadrunneratwast: please run "apt policy linux-generic-hwe-16.04 linux-image-generic-hwe-16.04 | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here
[18:28] <nacc> k1l: ack, updating
[18:28] <roadrunneratwast> http://termbin.com/kvwh
[18:28] <nacc> k1l: done, thanks!
[18:29] <johk_> waddup
[18:29] <k1l> roadrunneratwast: ok, the proper files are installed. but you need to run the updates
[18:29] <roadrunneratwast> oh
[18:30] <johk_> can somebody fix my internet connection its not working and i cant connect to internet
[18:33] <johk_> can somebody fix my internet connection its not working and i cant connect to internet
[18:35] <johk_> can somebody fix my internet connection its not working and i cant connect to internet PLZZ
[18:37] <timyp> johk could you provide more info.
[18:38] <timyp> when did it stop working, has it ever worked, how are you connected to the innet
[18:38] <OerHeks> timyp, he is gone
[18:43] <timyp> OerHeks its not working can you help me?
[18:44] <timyp> I mean I'm not gonna provide any other info than that you will just have to fix it... lol
[18:48] <Aurorasaura> Quick question. if you add a hard drive to lvm from windows with data on it will the data be lost?
[18:49] <intense> is it possible to use ubuntu netboot to PXEboot with the desktop installer rather than the server installer?
[18:58] <BetaSoul> Any one gotten the defeault VNC viewer to connect to the most recent raspbian pixel vnc?
[19:02] <shazzr> Ã¦Weird thing. Just reinstalled a laptop running debi. Now xubuntu. I can log into my raspberry pi via ssh and use norwegian characters as before. The only issue is that in irssi the Ã¦Ã¸Ã¥ does not wor.
[19:02] <shazzr> or...it appears not to work. I see them in the above statment, but not while I am typing....'Ã¦Ã¸Ã¥...
[19:03] <arooni> question; when the caps lock key flashes on my t420 laptop running 16.04; that means kernel panic?  nothing can be done to recover?  this seems to happen after every other resume from suspend.  i have 8gb of ram and 9 gb of swap so not sure why its not working... :(
[19:05] <rodolfo> buonasera
[19:18] <ubuntly> hi
[19:19] <ubuntly> So I tried to use user "admin" in Ubuntu setup - but it is denied as a reserved username.
[19:19] <ubuntly> I can create an user admin later though - and there are no negative effects...
[19:19] <ubuntly> so this is more a relict/purist thing?
[19:20] <Pici> ubuntly: its likely because there is already an admin group, and it doesn't want you to mess with that.
[19:20] <scottjl> because there already is an "admin" account
[19:20] <Pici> Users in the admin group are the ones who are allowed to use the sudo command.
[19:20] <ubuntly> right
[19:21] <ubuntly> and exactly that I want
[19:21] <ubuntly> well, I will pick a different user name then
[19:21] <ubuntly> what is a good username for the "normal" user in Ubuntu setup - except admin of course?
[19:21] <ubuntly> "notroot"? :D
[19:21] <scottjl> their name
[19:21] <Pici> ubuntly: Your first user already gets put into the admin group.
[19:21] <ubuntly> I want it more generic
[19:21] <scottjl> user ?
[19:21] <ubuntly> hmm, user, why not
[19:21] <ubuntly> but that user is in admin group
[19:21] <ubuntly> so it is an important user
[19:21] <ubuntly> sudouser?
[19:21] <ubuntly> superuser?
[19:22] <Pici> its up to you.
[19:22] <ubuntly> suser?
[19:22] <elias_a> ubuntly: Use "dickhead" or "totalmess". Nobody wants to use those accounts without real need. :P
[19:22] <scottjl> useraccount, someuser, generic
[19:22] <scottjl> though if this is a multi-user system, you really ought to use real names
[19:23] <w9qbj> pick a name not close the the namespace for administratiors of any app. make to be less confusing
[19:24] <ubuntly> elias_a: right,I will use admin as sudo user - later then when the server is provisioned after setup.
[19:24] <BluesKaj> oh lord, just use a derivative of your own name
[19:24] <ubuntly> ok
[19:24] <unstablevet> can anyone help an ubuntu studio with a hp pavilion dv6000 access the webcam
[19:24] <w9qbj> there is already many *admin* users, groups, directories( folders) and processes.
[19:25] <w9qbj> why make life dificult
[19:25] <ubuntly> OK, so summarize this: The Normal user account created by Ubuntu Setup is also able to sudo by default, is that right?
[19:26] <scottjl> yes
[19:26] <k1l> ubuntly: yes.
[19:26] <ubuntly> thanks.
[19:26] <k1l> ubuntly: and every new user beeing put in the sudo group can use sudo too.
[19:26] <scottjl> the normal user account created by setup is given admin priviledges because you have to start out with someone being admin.
[19:26] <ubuntly> right
[19:27] <ubuntly> I could even delete that user after the setup and add my own crazy user stuff?
[19:27] <ubuntly> good
[19:27] <scottjl> because ubuntu locks direct root login by default
[19:27] <Ben64> ubuntly: but why
[19:27] <scottjl> if you delete that use without setting up another account with admin you will basically lock yourself out of admin
[19:27] <ubuntly> Ben64: because the server will be provisioned automatically, admin, users are added with keys, etc
[19:27] <ubuntly> I just want the setup to be over :)
[19:28] <ubuntly> I will call it "suser" now :O
[19:28] <ubuntly> hurra
[19:35] <ubuntly> btw, the ubuntu setup is quite nice :D
[19:42] <Lujeni1> Ubuntu - Because I'm too retarded to configure debian. <3 cpaelzer Skaag attente br00tal Jooka setz3r statusfailed Whisket gyre007 RestingSmile dryliketoast DJones slamduck caw lucasrolff ircnode0 faithless_ ujjain luny bratchley wyggler2 t1mp jinie Danzeel Mordessin Toris sven^ Zerant matti abra0 K1rk setkeh screedo Esya blackroot ren0v0 JonathanD Neo jturek_ lu_tze c0 manitu dsung weltall topi` Renegade334` dork Blauskae1M tswett bonzibuddy janelleb_ pe
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[19:43] <RestingSmile> automatic spam protection? in MY freenode?
[19:43] <ubuntly> wtf lol
[19:43] <ubuntly> I found it somehow funny XD
[19:43] <baizon> no, it was just stupid
[19:44] <ubuntly> OK, it is intended that the Ubuntu setup doesn't ask me for a root password - because I should use that user to sudo/su to root, right?
[19:44] <k1l> ubuntly: yes
[19:44] <k1l> !root | ubuntly
[19:44] <ubuntly> ah, much better
[19:44] <ubuntly> the first I always did (in older debians) was to get rid of root for a sudo user :) then it makes sense
[19:45] <k1l> this is a basic concept of ubuntu.
[19:45] <OerHeks> genius hack, that is.
[19:46] <andreas_> buuh EFnet #trading
[19:48] <ppedro> SPAM - Because I'm too retarded to communicate otherwise.
[19:48] <nicomachus> !language
[19:48] <ppedro> thanks love
[19:49] <ppedro> i wast just apeing the fellow who spammed here before :P
[19:49] <OerHeks> ppedro, don't make fun of lonely people.
[19:49] <OerHeks> :-D
[19:49] <ppedro> :D
[19:49] <OerHeks> lets move on with support.
[19:49] <ppedro> you are right, sorry
[19:50] <ubuntly> now I decided to user "superuser" instead "suser" - it looks better
[19:51] <ppedro> seems like youre solving some big problems
[19:51] <BluesKaj> it's not as if he called some one else by that pc-incorrect word
[19:53] <ppedro> I am not so experienced with Unix, but I find it silly to disable root and just have sudo ;i
[19:54] <k1l> ppedro: even windows made something similar with their admin setup. its not a silly approach
[19:54] <nicomachus> ppedro: commentary not necessary.
[19:54] <ppedro> :D thanks k1l and nicomachus
[19:54] <ppedro> It was more a conversation opener
[19:54] <Th3_ghost> ppedro: is not silly, it is for security
[19:54] <ppedro> Th3_ghost: security in what sense?
[19:54] <scottjl> ppedro: it's to foster better security habits. one should avoid logging directly in as root if possible.
[19:54] <tgm4883> also, this channel isn't for conversation. That would be #ubuntu-discuss
[19:55] <ppedro> I mean, if you have a root account (with the same password) and a sudo account (<- with the same password), what is the gain in security?
[19:55] <ppedro> tgm4883: ah, the hierarchy has beaten me, bye bye.
[19:56] <dannyLopez> Can help me with a DB problem?
[19:56] <tgm4883> dannyLopez: not unless you tell us the problem...
[19:56] <Th3_ghost> ppedro: to protect yourself running scripts that can destroy your system or do rm -rf /
[19:57] <tgm4883> Th3_ghost: he's gone
[19:57] <dannyLopez> Jajaja tgm4883 I think the support is only in Ubuntu. :O
[19:57] <scottjl> tgm: can't discuss in here but can solve database issues?
[19:58] <tgm4883> scottjl: well this is a support channel...
[19:58] <Th3_ghost> so what can we do here?
[19:58] <Toggi3> Ubuntu, because some of us live in a Debian world and want long term releases, and either don't have the luxury of using, or do not wish to use, red hat and co. ;p
[19:58] <Toggi3> though Debian has an LTS channel now right?
[19:58] <tgm4883> Toggi3: off topic
[19:58] <Toggi3> I wonder how that is to actually run in enterprise
[19:59] <Toggi3> no general discussion?
[19:59] <nacc> Toggi3: no
[19:59] <tgm4883> Toggi3: there's a discussion channel for that
[19:59] <tgm4883> !ot
[19:59] <dannyLopez> Estoy instalando dhis2 y hay una línea que dice: "createuser -SDRP dhis" cuando pongo la contraseña me dice que el rol dhis ya existe. ¿Cómo puedo eliminar ese rol?
[19:59] <dannyLopez> I am installing dhis2 and there is a line that says: "createuser -SDRP dhis" when I put the password tells me that the dhis role already exists. How can I remove this role?
[19:59] <Toggi3> appreciate it tgm4883
[20:00] <unstablevet> can anyone help with hp webcam issues?
[20:00] <genii> Th3_ghost, Toggi3 This channel's purpose is to assist Ubunt users who are having technical support issues. As tgm4883 indicates, we have an offtopic channel for non-support discussion
[20:00] <Th3_ghost> genii: okay :)
[20:02] <tgm4883> dannyLopez: you'll probably have to reach out to the DHIS2 people for that since it's a unique package that not a lot of people run, and it's not even in the repositories
[20:03] <dannyLopez> But the comand is not of the program.
[20:03] <ubuntly> hi
[20:03] <ubuntly> My hoster only offers Ubuntu 14.04 ISO - can I easily upgrade to 16.04? Fresh installation, so there is not much to be migrated?
[20:04] <dannyLopez> I mean, exist any way to delet a rol created whit createuser -SDRP dhis
[20:04] <tgm4883> dannyLopez: ah it's a postgres db command
[20:05] <ubuntly> When I upgrade a fresh 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS, there won't be a performance penalty because the apt package manager handles all this usually perfectly?
[20:06] <scottjl> ubuntly: a 14.04->16.04 upgrade is not equal to a fresh 16.04 install. but it's close.
[20:07] <ubuntly> scottjl: why not equal? what will be different? more clutter?
[20:07] <scottjl> yes
[20:07] <genii> ubuntly: If you have many PPAs it can be a pain, depending on what they are
[20:07] <scottjl> but there is nothing wrong with running a 14.04 lts install right now.
[20:08] <scottjl> genii: he said a fresh install
[20:09] <genii> scottjl: Ah, missed that :)
[20:09] <scottjl> ubuntly: you have about 2 more years of support for 14.04 lts.
[20:09] <genii> ubuntly: Fresh install 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS upgrade rarely gives problems
[20:10] <ubuntly> I see
[20:11] <ubuntly> ok, I found my hoster also offers a minimal image with 16.04 - it is not a clean install but it will only contain minimal packages
[20:11] <ubuntly> that's what I want
[20:11] <ubuntly> otherwise the ansible provisioning will fail because there are already packages in place that can't be just removed
[20:12] <mario__> Hello, can I ask a question of Ubuntu? I'm a new user..
[20:12] <OerHeks> hi mario__, shoot!
[20:12] <genii> mario__: Yes, just state your question and someone should reply
[20:13] <ubuntly> so Ubuntu Landscape offers kernel upgrading without restart, right? Among some other auto upgrade stuff?
[20:13] <mario__> Maybe this question has been asked a lot, I'm learning now. I have an old netbook with An ATOM processor, 1GB of RAM, and I am trying to guess which version of Linux or Ubuntu is better to install on this device
[20:13] <OerHeks> ubuntly, yes, live patching, but the kernel only
[20:14] <ubuntly> OerHeks: and this live patching costs money at some scale because the Landscape team has to prepare the normal Linux kernel upgrade for a live upgrade?
[20:14] <mario__> I am thinking on MATE, but I'm not sure if it's the best option. Thanks in advance.
[20:14] <OerHeks> mario__, xubuntu/mate or lightweight Lubuntu/openbox
[20:14] <ubuntly> OerHeks: or is there some proprietary, non opensource tech involved?
[20:16] <ubuntly> >> Why does Landscape service cost? Could one prepare the linux kernel upgrades also with an opensource tool (also taking the risks ofc)?
[20:16] <OerHeks> ubuntly, yes, it is a canonical prop thingy, Dustin wrote a nice Q&A http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/10/canonical-livepatch.html
[20:16] <mario__> I will try xubuntu/mate then, thank you a lot guys :)
[20:16] <lol768> I'm pretty sure it just uses kpatch
[20:16] <OerHeks> see "Q: How does this compare to Oracle Ksplice, RHEL Live Patching and SUSE Live Patching?"
[20:16] <ubuntly> and there are no OpenSource LivePatches now? :)
[20:17] <OerHeks> kslice, but unsupported AFAIK
[20:17] <ubuntly> I see
[20:17] <ubuntly> probably too much to invest for a truly opensource solution
[20:17] <ubuntly> maybe when the kernel team itself decides to make one?
[20:17] <dannyLopez> tgm4883: Yes, is a postgres db
[20:19] <stratocastorNM> Hello everybody!
[20:22] <ZeptoByte> Hello :) I really need help getting grub2 to work again.. Can someone help me?
[20:24] <diogenes_> ZeptoByte, what's wrong with your grub?
[20:26] <ZeptoByte> I moved the ubuntu partition to make it bigger, and now grub wont start.. And I have deleted all of the content of the /boot folder
[20:26] <shazzr> Weird thing....if I use debian on my laptop it starts much faster than if I use ubuntu. How can I check what takes so much time?
[20:26] <diogenes_> how are you chatting here?
[20:27] <k1l> ubuntly: the service used for the kernel upgrades is livepatching. and yes you can do it on your own if you want. but 3 machines are for free from canonical service
[20:27] <diogenes_> shazzr, run systemd-analyze blame
[20:27] <k1l> ubuntly: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2016/10/canonical-livepatch.html
[20:29] <scottjl> ZeptoByte: You've pretty much hosed your system deleting /boot
[20:29] <shazzr> diogenes_: apparmor.service, 21.8 s, and plymouth-read-write.service, 21.7 s. Can I disable them in any way?
[20:30] <diogenes_> shazzr, first google and read the documentation
[20:30] <ubuntly> k1l: three for free? cool! I guess even for commercial use, etc - great!
[20:30] <ZeptoByte> @scottjl, I can't somehow reinstall it from a live usb?
[20:30] <OerHeks> ubuntulog2, actually, if you are a developer with ubuntu, contact them ;-)
[20:31] <k1l> ubuntly: see that blogpost with that faq
[20:32] <ngochai> hi guys, how do I disable console on framebuffer device and keep the framebuffer device (/dev/fb*)
[20:32] <scottjl> ZeptoBte: You can but it wouldn't be an easy process. Unless you needed that exact install, better off booting from live, backing up data, and reinstalling.
[20:32] <dannyLopez> OerHeks: Im not dev, Im a simple user and just follow a tutorial
[20:32] <anddam> while creating a backup using the Backup panel in System Settings I get a "Backup Failed - Permission denied"
[20:32] <diogenes_> ZeptoByte, http://pastebin.com/WxequHSj
[20:32] <stratocastorNM> Anyone here install folding at home on Ubuntu?
[20:33] <anddam> I used a SSH storage location, specifying the server, the folder and the username (same as my user on this system)
[20:33] <ZeptoByte> Thank you @diogenes, I will try that
[20:34] <anddam> where can I read a more detailed log of what's failing?
[20:34] <diogenes_> ZeptoByte, good luck
[20:40] <ZeptoByte> diognes_, it didn't work.. I've posted the output here http://pastebin.com/vptnfckQ
[20:41] <diogenes_> ZeptoByte, you're in trouble, reinstalling is way to gpo
[20:41] <diogenes_> go*
[20:42] <ZeptoByte> Okay, but thank you diogens_ for the help :)
[20:42] <diogenes_> ZeptoByte, you're welcome
[20:43] <pavlos> ZeptoByte, would this help? ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/831216/reinstalling-grub2-efi-partition
[20:44] <Apachez> inte ubuntu, is there a "good" way to run a specific command AFTER user logged into the gui AND network is up and running?
[20:44] <Apachez> in ubuntu, is there a "good" way to run a specific command AFTER user logged into the gui AND network is up and running?
[20:45] <baizon> Apachez: well you could run a script ;)
[20:45] <baizon> that is lauched on startup
[20:45] <stef_R> how do I register my nick
[20:46] <baizon> !register | stef_R
[20:47] <ZeptoByte> pavlos, diogenes_, I tried to reinstall the system and it says that the previous version is installed using "BIOS compativility mode".. Should I be using BIOS or UEFI mode.. If I also want to dual boot with windows?
[20:49] <diogenes_> ZeptoByte, first and FIRST you back up your data
[20:49] <ZeptoByte> It's a relative new install, and the important files are in the cloud
[20:50] <diogenes_> zeroshft, then use legacy instead of uefi and erase everything
[20:50] <aevl> E: Problem executing scripts APT::Update::Post-Invoke-Success 'test -x /usr/bin/apt-show-versions || exit 0 ; apt-show-versions -i'
[20:50] <aevl> E: Sub-process returned an error code
[20:50] <aevl> whats this error??? ^
[20:51] <aevl> that appears after running sudo apt-get update
[20:51] <AnonyL35> hello
[20:56] <anddam> does Unity support having different Universal Access rules for different displays?
[20:57] <caimlas> ducasse, so, related to the issue I mentioned earlier about systemd falling over... there's more information now, but I'm not sure how to proceed further from this: http://pastebin.com/i7cs1TJ4
[20:58] <Aremis117> anddam |  What are you trying to do
[20:58] <Aremis117> Do you want one display to be dedicated to magnify?
[21:00] <caimlas> ducasse, was hoping you might have some input on what to investigate, short of the core, of why it's falling over.
[21:01] <Aremis117> caimlas |  Whats going on?
[21:02] <caimlas> Aremis117, systemd-udevd is falling over (seemingly) randomly on a 16.04.02 VM, as is pretty much the whole of everything else related to systemd. It may be by my own doing, but I am not certain what as of yet.
[21:02] <caimlas> systemd being what it is, and not terribly robust, doesn't appear to provide sufficient log data for diagnosis.
[21:05] <Aremis117> Try OpenRC
[21:05] <anddam> Aremis117: I have a 13" 1080p where I use Large Text setting, when I connect the external display, 1080p but 23", I'd like that to not have large text
[21:06] <the_ktosiek> Ugh, I'm seeing Ubuntu switching to another VT on Alt+Left / Alt+Right. Is that a new thing?
[21:06] <the_ktosiek> I'm pretty sure Alt+Left wasn't doing this (I'm using this shortcut a lot in the browser)
[21:08] <Aremis117> anddam |  There should be something in options for unity to treat every display individually.  Thought I use mate and haven't played with unity in a long time.  Its in the same menu as having the side bar on every screen though.
[21:09] <anddam> Aremis117: I figure I get the panel
[21:09] <anddam> btw anything about having more verbose output from deja-dup?
[21:09] <anddam> my user can ssh into the configured ssh host, and I have my pub key in remote authorized
[21:09] <anddam> also my remote user can write in the target folder
[21:11] <anddam> I tried running it manually but it doesn't have a --verbose, and DEJA_DUP_DEBUG=1 suggested at http://askubuntu.com/a/191003 has no (apparent) effect
[21:11] <anddam> I tried    env DEJA_DUP_DEBUG=1 deja-dup --backup
[21:11] <anddam> I expected some more output in CLI but I just got the gtk window with "permission denied" displayed
[21:12] <anddam>  ~/.cache/deja-dup is empty
[21:12] <Aremis117> anddam |  Theres also features like the OSX style magnify stuff that you could use 9IE hold cntrl + alt + mousewheel up or down to zoom in).
[21:13] <anddam> Aremis117: oh that's nice, I used to use that quite often on macos
[21:14] <pavlos> ZeptoByte, I thought you were trying to recover the existing system, hence the link
[21:17] <ZeptoByte> pavlos, Yeah I was, but it didn't look like I could get it to work again :/ Anyways now i'm reinstalling the system
[21:17] <pavlos> ZeptoByte, ok
[21:17] <Aremis117> anddam |  Yeah there should be something like that available to you.p
[21:18] <ZeptoByte> I didn't loose any important data. I just need to use some time, setting everything up again..
[21:18] <ZeptoByte> But thank you so much for your help, anyways. pavlos
[21:19] <pavlos> ZeptoByte, np
[21:19] <ZeptoByte> I
[21:20] <ZeptoByte> I've always been suprised, of how nice the ubuntu community is. ;)
[21:21] <anddam> Aremis117: the Screen Display pane, the one that allows you to say "put dock in all monitors", cannot split Universal Access, it can only switch between mirroring and split screen
[21:21] <anddam> Aremis117: but the Universal Access setting will be global
[21:23] <RedPenguin> hello all
[21:23] <RedPenguin> I know of cron for scheduled tasks, but is there any thing similar to Windows's Task Scheduler to run a GUI/bash script, I can see open up in a terminal and see in foreground vs background?
[21:24] <Aremis117> anddam |  I remember something like enabling one screen for accessibility options or something like that.  Maybe I'm just thinking of the 12.04 beta :\
[21:24] <Aremis117> Sorry
[21:25] <anddam> oh damn, I typed in a wrong path, that's why deja-dup wasn't working
[21:25] <anddam> Aremis117: np, thanks for the info
[21:26] <anddam> how can I add a dot folder in a Gtk file dialog?
[21:27] <anddam> nvm, right click "show hidden files"
[21:27] <OerHeks> ctrl H
[21:27] <anddam> I'd like to be able to type in a path tho', is there such a thing in Gtk's file dialog?
[21:28] <astemir> help me please
[21:29] <scottjl> astemir: state your problem
[21:34] <anddam> scottjl: just hepl!
[21:34] <anddam> and ragequit
[21:35] <scottjl> maybe their link was the problem?
[21:36] <anddam> I have an actual problem with CUPS and Broterh MFC-250C printer (multifunction inkjet)
[21:37] <anddam> I installed lpr and CUPS wrapper deb packages from manufacturer, CUPS correctly recognizes the USB printer and assign the proper driver, but then jobs are simply accepted and immediately marked as completed but the printer doesn't do a thing
[21:37] <anddam> I don't know where to get more info
[21:37] <nacc> anddam: if you are using debs from the mfr, probably from them
[21:38] <anddam> I mean from logs or so,there are no issues or error in CUPS logs
[21:38] <unstablevet> when i use lsusb i cant see my integrated webcam what do i need to do from there?
[21:38] <anddam> nacc: pfff, I figure it's magnificent on their side already to even have bothered about providing those in first place
[21:38] <nacc> anddam: or just use a printer that works with linux
[21:39] <anddam> nacc: trying to be smart, with wise suggestions?
[21:39] <nacc> anddam: if cups isn't logging anything, then i'm not sure if it's not the printer or driver
[21:39] <nacc> anddam: at which point, you'd need to ask the driver author for how to debug
[21:39] <anddam> nacc: nothing that I can see, I checked the logs from web ui
[21:39] <anddam> anyway, I'll try again tomorrow, I'm tired now
[21:40] <anddam> thanks for the attention anyway
[21:42] <Simonious> tried apt-get update, got: Err:6 http://apt.puppetlabs.com trusty Release.gpg  The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 7F438280EF8D349F
[21:43] <Simonious> tried: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver apt.puppetlabs.com --recv-keys 7F438280EF8D349F      //this seems to hang forever
[21:43] <Simonious> is there a correctly solution here?
[21:43] <nacc> Simonious: wouldn't that be a question for the puppetlabs repository owner?
[21:44] <Simonious> nacc: perhaps?
[21:44] <OerHeks> Simonious, here is a clue .. Puppet Labs Release Key expires soon https://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/CPR-317
[21:44] <Pici> Simonious: have you tried it recently? It may have been affected by the AWS outage.
[21:44] <Simonious> Pici: ahhh, good point!
[21:44] <Pici> I know some of the mirrors I use were...
[21:45] <Simonious> Pici: hmm, still failing
[21:45] <Pici> Simonious: You're not meant to replace the keyserver name in the command, try with just keyserver.ubuntu.com
[21:46] <Simonious> ooo, that looks better!
[21:51] <Kazuto> I feel like my whole VPS is exploding. Every time I try to update my packages, I get told “Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1),” each sudo command tells me my hostname refuses connection, and ZNC can't read my config. Where the hell do I start troubleshooting?
[21:53] <nacc> Kazuto: pastebin the first case (full command all the output)
[21:54] <lafleurdubien> does anyone here have experience writing tutorials for Digital Ocean?
[21:54] <Kazuto> nacc: Including the update output?
[21:54] <nacc> lafleurdubien: doesn't seem topical for this channel? maybe #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:54] <nacc> Kazuto: probably doesn't hurt, but I was mostly interested in the comamnd that leads to the error
[21:55] <Kazuto> nacc: `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[21:56] <Kazuto> I'll get the full output in a sec
[21:56] <nacc> Kazuto: ok
[21:57] <unstablevet> can someone assist me please
[21:57] <Kazuto> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24086554/
[21:59] <kalwnau> t
[22:01] <nacc> Kazuto: wow, have you not updated in some time?
[22:02] <Kazuto> nacc: Yeah, I know, it's been about two months
[22:02] <nacc> Kazuto: that's terrible, for it's own reason
[22:02] <nacc> Kazuto: esp. in a droplet, which means you're 100% insecure
[22:02] <nacc> Kazuto: but whatever, that paste doesn't have the relevant output
[22:02] <Kazuto> That's the only output though
[22:02] <nacc> Kazuto: did you use pastebinit?
[22:02] <Kazuto> Pastebinit?
[22:02] <nacc> Kazuto: oh i see, it just put it in the middle, sorry
[22:03] <nacc> Kazuto: seems suspicious that it's around package 1000
[22:03] <nacc> Kazuto: have you tried using `apt` rather than `apt-get`? `apt update; apt full-upgrade`. Just curious if it's a tooling issue
[22:03] <Kazuto> I'll try it
[22:03] <Bashing-om> unstablevet: No help until the issue is known, state the problem .
[22:04] <unstablevet> i cant seem to find my integrated webcam when i use lsusb or lspci I'm not sure where to go from there
[22:04] <Kazuto> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24086583/
[22:05] <nacc> Kazuto: ok, run `sudo apt-get -f install`
[22:05] <Bashing-om> unstablevet: I would run ' tail -f /var/log/syslog ' in terminal and see if the system picks up when the cam is connected .
[22:06] <Kazuto> nacc: Running now
[22:07] <Kazuto> nacc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24086595/
[22:07] <unstablevet> bashing-om: nothing happened just have the  >
[22:08] <LVDSXorg> Hi, I installed 16.04 on an older laptop that has RS880M graphics card, and I know current xorg doesn't support it. Is this the reason why my display resolution is stuck at 1600x900 ? I tried added undetected resolution but my screen goes blank
[22:10] <nacc> Kazuto: why do you have old 14.04 kernels on your system?
[22:10] <Kazuto> nacc: ?
[22:10] <nacc> Kazuto: in any case, it doesn't look like any failures from that command
[22:10] <nacc> Kazuto: /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-110-generic
[22:11] <Simonious> Are the network problems still going on?
[22:11] <Kazuto> nacc: No idea. Could that be a problem?
[22:12] <Kazuto> I'm basically at the point where I'm going to save all of my work off-site and re-flash the system though
[22:12] <Bashing-om> unstablevet: xtl+c to close that terminal . and open a new terminal ( ctl+alt+t - unity ) . and in this terminal type ' tail -f /var/log/syslog ' . And nothing else . In this terminal is the tail of the log and the (-f) is to see all that gets added to the log file . Terminate the logging in that terminal with ctl+c . to return to CLI prompt .
[22:12] <nacc> Kazuto: yes, you might as well, tbh, if that's an option
[22:13] <Kazuto> Alright. Thanks for your help, nacc! I'll hang out here until it's done, then I'll rejoin on ZNC.
[22:16] <LVDSXorg> when I do xrandr -q, I see my display to be LVDS, should I use LVDS-0 when adding a new mode ?
[22:17] <LVDSXorg> Thing is when I try to change my resolution, I get a black screen. I am not sure why
[22:19] <OerHeks> LVDSXorg, no, LVDS is correct https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Dynamically_testing_different_resolutions
[22:19] <unstablevet> bashing-om:what specifically would i look out for?
[22:21] <LVDSXorg> oh okay OerHeks. Any idea why I get the black screen though ? should I play with the rate ? I am trying to get 1920x1080 60
[22:21] <Bashing-om> unstablevet: Whatever is reported when the cam is connected . That would be my starting point . Get some ID's and such to begin following the bread crumbs .
[22:23] <violencechildren> fuck you guys
[22:23]  * genii makes more coffee
[22:24] <Simonious> Did I just get laid?
[22:24] <elky> no
[22:24] <Simonious> but..  violencechildren said..
[22:24] <elky> not worth giving trolls attention like that
[22:24] <Simonious> well.. he's already logged out
[22:24] <Simonious> so I make jokey
[22:25] <clissold345> Can I ask about 17.04 here? It seems to have installed ok except that I cant open websites in firefox. I can connect to the router and I can ping. Eg ping 8.8.8.8.
[22:26] <genii> clissold345: #ubuntu+1 is the official place for Zesty until it reaches actual release
[22:26] <dbarton> clissold345: execute a "dig example.net" in your console
[22:27] <dbarton> genii: didn't know about #ubuntu+1… thanks :)
[22:28] <Apachez> in ubuntu, is there a "good" way to run a specific command AFTER user logged into the gui AND network is up and running?   does for example network-manager have a postinit script that it can trigger once network is up and running?
[22:29] <clissold345> genii, I'll try there. Thanks.
[22:30] <dbarton> Apachez: in case you use systemd, you could add a service unit (w/ oneshot command) and add it to the correct target (network.target if I'm not completly wrong)… but I think ubuntu uses upstart by default
[22:35] <Apachez> yeah if I add an app in startup applications it seems to be working as expected
[22:35] <Apachez> but so would gigolo also do but gigolo fails since network isnt up yet when it runs
[22:35] <Apachez> so "proper" way to do this would be to locate a trigger of network up and mount as the user
[22:52] <Renji666> Ciao a tutti
[23:04] <Apachez> is it possible to disable the unmount option for a user when acting on a gvfs mount?
[23:04] <Apachez> like in nautilus
[23:08] <eightfold> hi there
[23:08] <eightfold> how should i upgrade python 2 to python 3
[23:08] <eightfold> i'm running 16.10
[23:09] <nacc> eightfold: you don't
[23:09] <nacc> eightfold: you run the correct interpreter as needed
[23:09] <nacc> eightfold: both are present (python is python 2 and python3 is python 3)
[23:09] <eightfold> nacc: ok, but i need to install a program via pip
[23:09] <eightfold> and i requires python 3
[23:09] <eightfold> and it
[23:09] <nacc> eightfold: pip3
[23:09] <dbarton> eightfold probably change the shebang to python3
[23:10] <nacc> eightfold: python3-pip rather
[23:10] <nacc> eightfold: use the correct pip for the correct environment
[23:10] <eightfold> nacc: ok, so apt install pip3?
[23:11] <nacc> eightfold: python3-pip iirc
[23:11] <eightfold> argh, somebody told me i'd get the latest version by issuing apt install pip
[23:11] <k1l> !info python3-pip
[23:11] <nacc> eightfold: there is no package named pip
[23:11] <eightfold> nacc: do i need to uninstall something first, in order not to introduce chaos
[23:11] <k1l> eightfold: but are you sure that python package is not in the repos already=
[23:11] <nacc> eightfold: no
[23:12] <nacc> eightfold: python2 and python3 are in separate paths
[23:12] <nacc> eightfold: and 'latest' is relative to ubuntu, of course, not upstream
[23:12] <eightfold> k1l: what python package?
[23:12] <nacc> eightfold: what python package are you trying to install eventually?
[23:12] <eightfold> ok, i'll install python3-pip
[23:12] <k1l> eightfold: python2 and python3 are installable at the same time. so not to get a mess all pyhton3 stuff is named python3
[23:13] <k1l> eightfold: the python package you want to install with pip
[23:14] <lerner> what command do I need to start a program in 2 hours time?
[23:15] <dimisdas> Sleep
[23:15] <mcphail> lerner: "at"
[23:16] <eightfold> ok, fail. "Exception: Sorry, Python 2 is not supported"
[23:16] <nacc> eightfold: where and what command?
[23:16] <eightfold> even though i installed python3-pip
[23:16] <nacc> eightfold: no context makes it impossible to help you
[23:16] <nacc> eightfold: use a pastebin
[23:16] <eightfold> pip install --user wpull
[23:16] <nacc> eightfold: that's because, as I just said, it's pip3
[23:16] <nacc> eightfold: pip3 to use python3
[23:17] <eightfold> nacc: what is pip3?
[23:17] <nacc> eightfold: the python3 pip
[23:18] <eightfold> sorry, but i don't understand a thing. the python3 pip is pip3
[23:18] <eightfold> and i insalled it
[23:18] <k1l> eightfold: pip is only python2. if you want python version3 to be used you need to use "pip3"
[23:18] <nacc> eightfold: there are two commands
[23:18] <eightfold> ahhh
[23:18] <eightfold> sawry
[23:18] <nacc> eightfold: both are for what you are thinking of as 'pip' but you need to tell it which interpreter you want to use
[23:18] <k1l> eightfold: it doesnt know what python you want since both pythons are installed
[23:19] <eightfold> all these pythons :)
[23:19] <nacc> there are two
[23:19] <eightfold> pip3 install --user wpull
[23:19] <eightfold> worked better
[23:19] <lerner> mcphail, so example: 'at 2am firefox -p'
[23:19] <lerner> ?
[23:22] <krakken> coco coco puffs
[23:23] <krakken> the wifi took me a bit
[23:24] <krakken> nice to see double click tarball upzip
[23:27] <mcphail> lerner: "at" accepts jobs from stdin. So you could use: echo "DISPLAY=:0 firefox -p" | at now + 2hours
[23:27] <ablest1980> hi
[23:27] <lerner> mcphail, so what I wrote would not work?
[23:27] <mcphail> lerner: you'll need to set the "DISPLAY" variable for graphical apps
[23:34] <ofir> Hi, I'm experimenting with this ancient kernel 2.6.20-15-generic while reading the Art of Exploitation, and I am puzzled about how stack execution is allowed there
[23:34] <eightfold> nacc: do you think this could have anything to do with the fact that i don't have python3 installed?
[23:34] <eightfold> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/759912340b3d5bd9b7518acff5d03da0
[23:34] <ofir> Would love that to hear a hint from someone :)
[23:34] <nacc> ofir: wrong channel
[23:34] <nacc> ofir: probably want a kernel channel
[23:35] <ofir> nacc, thanks, I'll try, it's an old Ubuntu 7.04 (Live CD), so I thought maybe someone would know
[23:35] <still-dreaming-1> Hell. I'm using Ubuntu via Bash on Ubuntu on Windows (Windows 10 feature). Is it true you should not modify the linux file system files through Windows file explorer?
[23:36] <still-dreaming-1> *hello
[23:36] <nacc> eightfold: do you actually not have python3 installed? it's installed by default in ubuntu now
[23:36] <nacc> eightfold: just as python3
[23:36] <nacc> eightfold: it's presumably that there is no html5lib (afaict)
[23:36] <OerHeks> !ubuwin
[23:37] <genii> !winubu
[23:37] <genii> Hm
[23:38] <OerHeks> Could be an 2nd option, genii
[23:38] <k1l> eightfold: see, the error tells you its missing python3-html5lib
[23:38] <nacc> eightfold: well, it does (if you know python and ubuntu) because it can't import a module and ubuntu generally has sane pacakge names for python modules
[23:39] <nacc> !info python3-html5lib yakkety
[23:45] <eightfold> k1l: thanks!
[23:45] <eightfold> nacc: thanks!
[23:45] <eightfold> i'll give  python3-html5lib a try
[23:49] <eightfold> hmm
[23:49] <eightfold> installed that package, getting https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e42b2d565e0eb4d96d5c168964660b88
[23:50] <eightfold> didn't know that *nix dependency hell hole was so deep :)
[23:51] <eightfold> identical message as before installing python3-html5lib
[23:51] <nacc> eightfold: iit'
[23:51] <nacc> eightfold: it's a bug in wpull
[23:52] <nacc> eightfold: not compatible with ubuntu's package, afaict, as the modules is called 'html5lib._tokenizer' (and the underscore implies it's not meant for direct import)
[23:55] <funey> hey
[23:58] <stinger910> Hello
[23:59] <stinger910> Anyone interested in helping a complete noob set up their vncserver for desktop environment