| Unit193 | I quite agree. | 00:20 |
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| Unit193 | knome: In that case, did you see my lament about base-files? | 00:21 |
| knome | no | 00:21 |
| bluesabre | Unit193, feel free to also blacklist that for us | 00:26 |
| Unit193 | Well that sounds nice, I'd pretty much keep the comment intact for reference. | 00:39 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Oh, gonna bump -artwork? :P | 00:39 |
| bluesabre | Unit193, yeah, need to | 00:40 |
| bluesabre | also pending wp update | 00:40 |
| Unit193 | You'd know better than me about the icon themes and all. | 00:40 |
| tracker4 | ls | 03:52 |
| tracker4 | test | 03:52 |
| tracker4 | whois | 03:53 |
| Unit193 | Toodles. | 03:54 |
| ochosi | bluesabre, Unit193: hey, would be really nice if we could get libxfce4ui 4.13 into https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/xfce4-gtk3, as it is e.g. a requirement for building xfce4-settings from master | 11:23 |
| Unit193 | It's in Zesty proper. | 11:25 |
| ochosi | hmmm right | 11:26 |
| * ochosi is still on yak | 11:26 | |
| Unit193 | xfce4-settings is in there too. :> | 11:27 |
| ochosi | gtk3? | 11:27 |
| ochosi | in zesty? | 11:28 |
| Unit193 | PPA. | 11:29 |
| bluesabre | ochosi, zesty is nice and stable, using it as a daily driver with no issues | 12:06 |
| flocculant | ochosi: same here :) | 12:24 |
| Unit193 | It usually is pretty decent, our stuff is pretty much never complicated. :) | 12:25 |
| flocculant | yea - to be fair I think most of the issues I find are mostly otherbuntu or I've broken something :D | 12:26 |
| flocculant | still no idea why my otherzest refuses to play some mkv files - but once the partition is aa beta1 we'll never know :D | 12:29 |
| akxwi-dave | can confirm here as well Zesty playing really nice as daily.. Day of Defeat:Source runs even better than before | 13:58 |
| flocculant | knome: is this supposed to be dead now? http://xubuntu.org/news/category/faq | 17:58 |
| knome | flocculant, it | 19:15 |
| knome | eh | 19:16 |
| knome | flocculant, it's supposed to be at http://xubuntu.org/news/tag/faq/ | 19:16 |
| knome | if we link to the old address somewhere, feel free to fix or tell me to ;) | 19:16 |
| flocculant | knome: was just picking up from #xubuntu | 19:50 |
| flocculant | and if I'd found it I would of course have probably tried to fix it - if I could log in :) | 19:51 |
| knome | :) | 19:51 |
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| ochosi | flocculant: do you still have a gtk2 panel around? | 20:52 |
| ochosi | i'd just need a very quick test (<30s) | 20:52 |
| flocculant | ochosi: umm not sire | 21:00 |
| Unit193 | No PPA contains the GTK3 panel. | 21:01 |
| flocculant | ochosi: yea I have a gtk2 panel around :D | 21:01 |
| flocculant | Unit193: thought so - but you were quicker than me and firefox and ppa list :p | 21:01 |
| ochosi | so basically the test case is this: 1) go to the panel prefs, set hiding to "intelligently" | 21:02 |
| ochosi | 2) then open a left-click menu (e.g. whiskermenu) and close it | 21:02 |
| ochosi | (while keeping the mouse-cursor over the panel area and while having a window partly cover the panel so it would go back into hiding without mouse-focus) | 21:02 |
| ochosi | 3) after closing the menu, is the panel still there or is it hidden? | 21:03 |
| flocculant | umm - intelligently hiding isn't hiding at all | 21:03 |
| ochosi | it only hides when you have e.g. a maximized window | 21:03 |
| ochosi | or when you move a window over the panel's location | 21:03 |
| ochosi | it "ducks" :) | 21:03 |
| flocculant | aah yea I remember now ... | 21:04 |
| ochosi | yeah, it's a tricky feature | 21:04 |
| flocculant | panel hides | 21:05 |
| flocculant | oh | 21:05 |
| flocculant | hang on - having trouble parsing what you said :D | 21:06 |
| ochosi | take your time ;) | 21:06 |
| flocculant | panel hides with some window half over panel and ending whatever left click panel menu | 21:08 |
| flocculant | also - is panel supposed to unhide if desktop gets focus from window half over panel? | 21:09 |
| flocculant | it unhides as soon as some 'new' window gets focus | 21:09 |
| flocculant | or rather mouse over desktop fails to unhide but click on desktop does | 21:10 |
| ochosi | ok, so: | 21:11 |
| ochosi | 1) panel hides if the focused window covers it (even just partly) | 21:11 |
| flocculant | ochosi: also see the same behaviour with a right click menu btw | 21:11 |
| ochosi | 2) panel should remain visible if a menu is opened | 21:11 |
| ochosi | 3) what happens if the focused window does not overlap the panel and you close the menu | 21:12 |
| flocculant | if the focused window doesn't overlap - intellihide doesn't trigger | 21:14 |
| ochosi | for me it still flickers for a split-second when opening and closing whiskermenu | 21:16 |
| ochosi | it remains there, but it flickers | 21:16 |
| ochosi | not with every plugin though it seems | 21:17 |
| ochosi | or the flicker isn't always visible is probably more accurate | 21:17 |
| flocculant | definitley no flicker I can see | 21:17 |
| ochosi | (i'm testing intellihide with gtk3, as you probably guessed) | 21:17 |
| flocculant | which plugin do you see it with? | 21:17 |
| flocculant | yea :) saw mention in xfce-dev | 21:18 |
| flocculant | ftr I was using whisker, places, sound | 21:18 |
| flocculant | ochosi: also, if it makes more sense to ping me for these things in #xfce so other people there can see the results then please do so :) | 21:20 |
| ochosi | ok sure | 21:20 |
| flocculant | I'm easy - you choose when it suits which channel :) | 21:21 |
| ochosi | same here | 21:21 |
| flocculant | :) | 21:22 |
| ochosi | andrzejr is luckily hanging out here too ;) | 21:22 |
| flocculant | :) | 21:22 |
| flocculant | so reading #xfce-d, seems that gtk3 works the same way as gtk2 ? | 21:23 |
| ochosi | yeah, apart from the small flicker i noticed, it seems to work alright | 21:24 |
| flocculant | ochosi: so which plugin(s) do you see it with? or any? | 21:24 |
| ochosi | seems pretty much any | 21:26 |
| ochosi | ok, now this is better. | 21:26 |
| ochosi | 1) maximize a window | 21:26 |
| ochosi | 2) bring a small window that does *not* cover the panel to the front/focus | 21:27 |
| ochosi | 3) click to open a menu and then to close it | 21:27 |
| ochosi | for me, the panel jumps out and in again in this case | 21:27 |
| ochosi | very noticably in this setup | 21:27 |
| flocculant | in that setup here - panel never hides because maximised window doesn't gain focus | 21:30 |
| ochosi | right, then that's a regression of the gtk3 version | 21:31 |
| flocculant | as soon as max window gets focus it hides - all seems to work as I'd expect | 21:31 |
| flocculant | I guess only way for me to be sure I'm seeing the same is for me to build gtk3 panel | 21:32 |
| Unit193 | andrzejr: ↑ | 21:32 |
| ochosi | flocculant: it's in git master now, so no weird branches or anything | 21:34 |
| andrzejr | Unit193, which part ↑ are you referring to? | 21:34 |
| flocculant | ochosi: and point me at that then :p | 21:36 |
| ochosi | http://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/ | 21:36 |
| ochosi | just build normally with ./autogen.sh && make && sudo make install | 21:36 |
| ochosi | that'll make it go to /usr/local so you can cleanly uninstall | 21:36 |
| ochosi | however, it will take down your panel settings | 21:37 |
| ochosi | so be sure to back that up with xfpanel-switch before you try that | 21:37 |
| flocculant | yup | 21:37 |
| flocculant | and before that - this is a clean install no git or anything ... | 21:37 |
| ochosi | (simply because the panel doesn't find your plugins, for that you would have to install with a different --prefix, but that's irrelevant for this test) | 21:37 |
| flocculant | ochosi: to be sure I'm cloning git://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel ? | 21:40 |
| ochosi | yup | 21:40 |
| flocculant | oh lord here we go ...The required package ... | 21:42 |
| ochosi | :> | 21:43 |
| ochosi | you need the xfce-gtk3 ppa | 21:43 |
| ochosi | mostly | 21:43 |
| ochosi | and apt-get build-dep xfce4-panel | 21:43 |
| flocculant | got ppa, got build-deps | 21:44 |
| flocculant | garcon-gtk3-1 it wants | 21:44 |
| Unit193 | libgarcon-2-0-dev from the ppa. | 21:46 |
| flocculant | which I installed but it still complains | 21:46 |
| flocculant | Unit193: yea | 21:47 |
| flocculant | http://paste.ubuntu.com/24086547/ | 21:55 |
| flocculant | I'm lost there then :) | 21:56 |
| flocculant | got past that install libxfce4ui stuffs and then libwnck stuff | 22:32 |
| ochosi | indeed, that is odd | 22:36 |
| bluesabre | evening all | 23:06 |
| Unit193 | Howdy. | 23:06 |
| knome | hullooo bluesabre | 23:06 |
| bluesabre | uh oh | 23:07 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Didja look into ffe'ing notifyd? :P | 23:07 |
| bluesabre | quick responses, you guys were lying in wait | 23:07 |
| Unit193 | ...Yes. | 23:07 |
| knome | yes indeed | 23:07 |
| bluesabre | Unit193, need to do that tonight... but a bit tied up the past few days | 23:07 |
| bluesabre | *been | 23:07 |
| knome | literally? | 23:07 |
| knome | :P | 23:07 |
| Unit193 | Sure it's fine, just figured I'd aa... | 23:07 |
| Unit193 | ..sk. | 23:07 |
| * bluesabre won't say | 23:07 | |
| knome | (: | 23:08 |
| bluesabre | anything else I need to be aware of? | 23:11 |
| bluesabre | knome, I'll happily beta test your wallpaper | 23:11 |
| knome | haha | 23:11 |
| Unit193 | Nope. I uploaded some plugin that had a bugfix release, uploaded something to PPA. | 23:11 |
| bluesabre | cool | 23:12 |
| knome | bluesabre, i might get something for you to test tomorrow :P | 23:12 |
| bluesabre | knome, awesome, looking forward to it | 23:12 |
| knome | but test, not upload ;) | 23:12 |
| bluesabre | :D | 23:12 |
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