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lotuspsychjegood morning to all04:40
Bashing-omHiya lotuspsychje :) .. Good help has arrived .04:44
lotuspsychjehey Bashing-om cuppa coffee and going to throw in04:45
Bashing-omWe keep the lid in .. Most has now settled out .04:46
lotuspsychjeanyone knows where dax hides these days? or did he change nick again04:47
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Ouch ! I had not noted the dax absence . shame on me .04:49
lotuspsychjemorning OerHeks06:10
OerHekshello lotuspsychje06:11
EriC^^morning lotuspsychje OerHeks06:27
lotuspsychjemorning EriC^^06:27
EriC^^where is TJ- btw?06:28
lotuspsychjedidnt see him for long time06:28
EriC^^how come?06:29
lotuspsychjethink someone said he got some work now06:30
lotuspsychjenot sure of the details06:30
OerHeksguys, centos server on vmware, hurry hurry dali dali06:30
lotuspsychjehurry what?06:39
EriC^^lotuspsychje: ah ok06:43
ducassemorning all07:08
Bashing-omSee ducasse :) We kept it for ya .07:10
ducassehey Bashing-om - still hanging on? looks quiet atm...07:14
lotuspsychjemorning ducasse07:15
ducassehi lotuspsychje07:15
Bashing-omducasse: Uh huh .. too quiet to hold my attention . Goig to do that sleep thing .07:16
ducasseBashing-om: you do that, it's usually quiet for a couple more hours07:17
ducasselotuspsychje: work today?07:19
lotuspsychjeducasse: day off :p07:19
ducassenice :)07:19
Bashing-omNight nite all .. see yall on my flip .07:19
ducassenigh!07:19
ducasse*night!07:20
lotuspsychjeducasse: still got that ip i joined with the other day?07:47
ducassegive me a sec...07:47
lotuspsychjesure07:48
ducasse80.200.254.17407:48
lotuspsychjetnx07:48
ducassenp :)07:49
lotuspsychjegonna nmap it, curious what service are running07:49
ducassehehe, work ip?07:51
lotuspsychjeyep they run cyberaom firewall07:54
OerHekshttps://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/02/28/canonical-wins-orange-award-for-converged-computing-at-mwc-17/08:18
lotuspsychjeoh08:21
lotuspsychjehttp://news.softpedia.com/news/mwc-2017-dell-s-new-edge-gateway-3000-series-are-powered-by-ubuntu-core-16-513377.shtml08:24
EriC^^lotuspsychje: how09:00
EriC^^how's the shop coming together? any prospects for the pc brand?09:00
lordievaderGood morning10:02
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EriC^^morning lordievader10:30
lordievaderHey EriC^^, how are you?10:30
EriC^^o/10:30
EriC^^good thanks! you?10:31
lordievaderDoing good here too, updated my blog finally ;)10:52
EriC^^great!10:52
BluesKajHey folks11:56
ducasseBluesKaj: are these two-three (noisy) guys regulars, or just drop-ins?19:44
BluesKajwho stoned ? he's all over the place19:45
ducasseintense, scottjl primarily19:45
ducasse20:41 <intense> sudo rm -rf / && apt-get install ramdoubler19:46
BluesKajscottiji , not sure about him19:47
nicomachushey, I finally got ncmpcpp to work20:55
nicomachusducasse: anyone saying rm -rf should be !ops'd20:56
nicomachusalso, there's !danger20:56
nicomachusjust in case20:56
nicomachus!danger20:56
ubot5DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you!20:56
ducassenicomachus: iirc, the context was that two or three semi-trolls were ranting to each other, it wasn't an answer to someone asking a question. if it was i would have !ops'ed them.21:38
ducassenow - sleepytime.21:38
daftykinsnn :>21:39
nicomachushmmmm.... do I have to source the ncmpcpp file or something to get it to affect the changes?21:49
nicomachusoh wait, I'm an idiot21:49
nicomachusit really helps if you remember to uncomment the lines you change in a config file, you know?21:54
daftykins:D i write personal notes in21:55
daftykins# lul future dafty this will never work, stop kidding yourself21:55
nicomachuslol22:00
nicomachusI just had to change the atrocious stock colors that ncmpcpp comes with.22:00
nicomachusmuch better now.22:00
daftykinsi don't even have a clue what that is? :)22:01
nicomachusncurses music player.22:01
daftykinsah i do spy mpc in there now ;D22:01
Bashing-omMe,in my early days I learned the value of dicumentation in any file I change . who, what - when - where and WHY > I have a real short memory ( and I keep a change log file ) .22:01
nicomachushttps://i.imgur.com/SROSJH2.jpg22:01
nacci always put my nick and keep the old line in comments22:01
naccideally with a brief why :)22:01
daftykinsi'm gonna try and play with a Cisco IP phone, Linksys voice gateway for my landline service and the FreePBX distro soon :>22:02
daftykinsnacc: :D22:02
nacci really wish we extended conffiles to include the ones installed by package runtimes22:02
naccthen you'd see what might break due to your local config on every update22:02
daftykinsit'd be pretty neat, definitely when commands and functions change through deprecation too...22:04
naccyeah, what we have now doesn't feel very desktop-friendly22:06
naccor multi-user, maybe, more accurately22:06
naccreally helps root / system-wide config22:07
naccbut then again, i wonder how desktop infra specific the config file stuff is too22:07
nacci would hope it's not, and everyone is now using .config or .local or whatever22:07
daftykinsi think the whole GNU/Linux thing of having software that doesn't always have configs accessible via a GUI tool goes a long way to new user problems22:08
nicomachussi22:08
naccdaftykins: absolutely -- it's not self-documenting at all22:09
daftykinsthe fact that so much screws up even from using the GUI software updater, that us with experience prefer to use the CLI every time... pretty telling too22:10
naccyes, i have a longstanding bug to fix in php land because the GUI updaters don't trigger something with debconf (sometimes) and upgrades fail22:10
naccthen work fine from terminal with apt22:11
daftykins:S22:11
naccyeah, super annoying -- and debconf spits out random perl messages :)22:17
daftykinsD:22:18
daftykinsmy basic installer bug got ignored for 4+ years, i got to see how good FOSS was that time22:18
naccdaftykins: was that the one i looked at a while back?22:19
daftykinscould be yeah, Guernsey and Jersey getting US keyboard layout by default22:19
daftykinsthink it just ended up getting fixed in upstream instead22:19
naccdaftykins: yeah it's a tough balance22:20
naccand i will admit the whole desktop side is scary to me22:20
naccas the chance of regression is so much higher22:20
naccbecause X is so fragile :)22:20
naccX + ever DE out there22:20
nicomachuswhoa, who does PMs through DCC instead of /query?22:49
nicomachusor does it always give that status update and I just never noticed?22:50
nicomachus16:44 DCC CHAT from  [172.20.10.2 port 57689]22:50
daftykinsi've only ever seen helpees demanding answers / trolling you try DCC chats22:50
nicomachushe was just saying thanks for the link I sent him22:50
nicomachuswhich I sent in the channel... but oh well22:50
naccBashing-om: makes sense, they are a hardware company after all :)23:46
nacc(re: amdgpu only supporting newest cards well so far)23:46
OerHeksstill, it should play hd video better than my old 545023:46
OerHeksi even use wobbly windows :-D23:47
daftykinsXD23:47
OerHeksbut if this AMD 6870 is in a laptop ..23:47
daftykinsthe mobile chips are usually worse23:48
naccOerHeks: :)23:48
Bashing-omnacc: I can see AMD's position . Putting their efforts in newer cards in this time of translation to open source support .23:50
daftykinsyeah, you couldn't go back to an old architecture (series of cards + chips) this late in the day23:50
naccBashing-om: yeah, it's just an unfortunate transition23:51
nacchopefully by 18.04 it's a lot better23:52
Bashing-omWe can hope for the trickle down effect in the case of older ATI cards . but do not hold the breath as there be compatibility issues . The carrot is still dangling for older ATI cards .23:54
naccyep23:54
Bashing-omnacc: The list I tend to believe : http://theleftcoastgeek.net/index.php/categories/12-possible-amdgpu-pro-supported-gpus-by-the-end .23:56
Bashing-omnacc: QIII ^^ has been working close with AMD and our developers in testing and what not .23:57
naccBashing-om: nice23:57

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