=== pauljw_ is now known as pauljw [04:40] good morning to all [04:44] Hiya lotuspsychje :) .. Good help has arrived . [04:45] hey Bashing-om cuppa coffee and going to throw in [04:46] We keep the lid in .. Most has now settled out . [04:47] anyone knows where dax hides these days? or did he change nick again [04:49] lotuspsychje: Ouch ! I had not noted the dax absence . shame on me . [06:10] morning OerHeks [06:11] hello lotuspsychje [06:27] morning lotuspsychje OerHeks [06:27] morning EriC^^ [06:28] where is TJ- btw? [06:28] didnt see him for long time [06:29] how come? [06:30] think someone said he got some work now [06:30] not sure of the details [06:30] guys, centos server on vmware, hurry hurry dali dali [06:39] hurry what? [06:43] lotuspsychje: ah ok [07:08] morning all [07:10] See ducasse :) We kept it for ya . [07:14] hey Bashing-om - still hanging on? looks quiet atm... [07:15] morning ducasse [07:15] hi lotuspsychje [07:16] ducasse: Uh huh .. too quiet to hold my attention . Goig to do that sleep thing . [07:17] Bashing-om: you do that, it's usually quiet for a couple more hours [07:19] lotuspsychje: work today? [07:19] ducasse: day off :p [07:19] nice :) [07:19] Night nite all .. see yall on my flip . [07:19] nigh! [07:20] *night! [07:47] ducasse: still got that ip i joined with the other day? [07:47] give me a sec... [07:48] sure [07:48] 80.200.254.174 [07:48] tnx [07:49] np :) [07:49] gonna nmap it, curious what service are running [07:51] hehe, work ip? [07:54] yep they run cyberaom firewall [08:18] https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/02/28/canonical-wins-orange-award-for-converged-computing-at-mwc-17/ [08:21] oh [08:24] http://news.softpedia.com/news/mwc-2017-dell-s-new-edge-gateway-3000-series-are-powered-by-ubuntu-core-16-513377.shtml [09:00] lotuspsychje: how [09:00] how's the shop coming together? any prospects for the pc brand? [10:02] Good morning === JanC is now known as Guest86538 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [10:30] morning lordievader [10:30] Hey EriC^^, how are you? [10:30] o/ [10:31] good thanks! you? [10:52] Doing good here too, updated my blog finally ;) [10:52] great! [11:56] Hey folks [19:44] BluesKaj: are these two-three (noisy) guys regulars, or just drop-ins? [19:45] who stoned ? he's all over the place [19:45] intense, scottjl primarily [19:46] 20:41 sudo rm -rf / && apt-get install ramdoubler [19:47] scottiji , not sure about him [20:55] hey, I finally got ncmpcpp to work [20:56] ducasse: anyone saying rm -rf should be !ops'd [20:56] also, there's !danger [20:56] just in case [20:56] !danger [20:56] DO NOT RUN THAT COMMAND! That particular command is DANGEROUS and shouldn't be uttered here. REST OF YOU: DANGER, WILL ROBINSON, DANGER! Do not use the command or utter it here thank you! [21:38] nicomachus: iirc, the context was that two or three semi-trolls were ranting to each other, it wasn't an answer to someone asking a question. if it was i would have !ops'ed them. [21:38] now - sleepytime. [21:39] nn :> [21:49] hmmmm.... do I have to source the ncmpcpp file or something to get it to affect the changes? [21:49] oh wait, I'm an idiot [21:54] it really helps if you remember to uncomment the lines you change in a config file, you know? [21:55] :D i write personal notes in [21:55] # lul future dafty this will never work, stop kidding yourself [22:00] lol [22:00] I just had to change the atrocious stock colors that ncmpcpp comes with. [22:00] much better now. [22:01] i don't even have a clue what that is? :) [22:01] ncurses music player. [22:01] ah i do spy mpc in there now ;D [22:01] Me,in my early days I learned the value of dicumentation in any file I change . who, what - when - where and WHY > I have a real short memory ( and I keep a change log file ) . [22:01] https://i.imgur.com/SROSJH2.jpg [22:01] i always put my nick and keep the old line in comments [22:01] ideally with a brief why :) [22:02] i'm gonna try and play with a Cisco IP phone, Linksys voice gateway for my landline service and the FreePBX distro soon :> [22:02] nacc: :D [22:02] i really wish we extended conffiles to include the ones installed by package runtimes [22:02] then you'd see what might break due to your local config on every update [22:04] it'd be pretty neat, definitely when commands and functions change through deprecation too... [22:06] yeah, what we have now doesn't feel very desktop-friendly [22:06] or multi-user, maybe, more accurately [22:07] really helps root / system-wide config [22:07] but then again, i wonder how desktop infra specific the config file stuff is too [22:07] i would hope it's not, and everyone is now using .config or .local or whatever [22:08] i think the whole GNU/Linux thing of having software that doesn't always have configs accessible via a GUI tool goes a long way to new user problems [22:08] si [22:09] daftykins: absolutely -- it's not self-documenting at all [22:10] the fact that so much screws up even from using the GUI software updater, that us with experience prefer to use the CLI every time... pretty telling too [22:10] yes, i have a longstanding bug to fix in php land because the GUI updaters don't trigger something with debconf (sometimes) and upgrades fail [22:11] then work fine from terminal with apt [22:11] :S [22:17] yeah, super annoying -- and debconf spits out random perl messages :) [22:18] D: [22:18] my basic installer bug got ignored for 4+ years, i got to see how good FOSS was that time [22:19] daftykins: was that the one i looked at a while back? [22:19] could be yeah, Guernsey and Jersey getting US keyboard layout by default [22:19] think it just ended up getting fixed in upstream instead [22:20] daftykins: yeah it's a tough balance [22:20] and i will admit the whole desktop side is scary to me [22:20] as the chance of regression is so much higher [22:20] because X is so fragile :) [22:20] X + ever DE out there [22:49] whoa, who does PMs through DCC instead of /query? [22:50] or does it always give that status update and I just never noticed? [22:50] 16:44 DCC CHAT from [172.20.10.2 port 57689] [22:50] i've only ever seen helpees demanding answers / trolling you try DCC chats [22:50] he was just saying thanks for the link I sent him [22:50] which I sent in the channel... but oh well [23:46] Bashing-om: makes sense, they are a hardware company after all :) [23:46] (re: amdgpu only supporting newest cards well so far) [23:46] still, it should play hd video better than my old 5450 [23:47] i even use wobbly windows :-D [23:47] XD [23:47] but if this AMD 6870 is in a laptop .. [23:48] the mobile chips are usually worse [23:48] OerHeks: :) [23:50] nacc: I can see AMD's position . Putting their efforts in newer cards in this time of translation to open source support . [23:50] yeah, you couldn't go back to an old architecture (series of cards + chips) this late in the day [23:51] Bashing-om: yeah, it's just an unfortunate transition [23:52] hopefully by 18.04 it's a lot better [23:54] We can hope for the trickle down effect in the case of older ATI cards . but do not hold the breath as there be compatibility issues . The carrot is still dangling for older ATI cards . [23:54] yep [23:56] nacc: The list I tend to believe : http://theleftcoastgeek.net/index.php/categories/12-possible-amdgpu-pro-supported-gpus-by-the-end . [23:57] nacc: QIII ^^ has been working close with AMD and our developers in testing and what not . [23:57] Bashing-om: nice