[00:01] <eightfold> nacc: darn. so there
[00:01] <eightfold> s nothing to do really
[00:01] <eightfold> but leaving feedback to devs
[00:02] <nacc> eightfold: you can edit their source and see if it fixes it, but they do pretty clearly ask you to file an issue
[00:02] <nacc> eightfold: and don't use enter as punctuation :)
[00:03] <eightfold> nacc: accidental enter
[00:04] <eightfold> nacc: thank you for your help.
[00:05] <lerner> in what channe can I get help about 'at'?
[00:05] <lerner> i mean the command
[00:05] <reisio> lerner: here is fine
[00:06] <lerner> at 0106 -c 'firefox -p' , this should work, right?
[00:06] <lerner> it did not
[00:08] <denny> Hi
[00:08] <denny> what is snap in ubuntu
[00:08] <denny> how can I remove it?
[00:08] <k1l> its an alternate package system.
[00:09] <Guest82803> can I remove it?
[00:09] <k1l> i guess removing snapd
[00:10] <Guest82803> first of all I have this snap core
[00:10] <Guest82803> that I want to remove
[00:10] <reisio> you'll unfortunately probably have to determine what is depending on it, too
[00:10] <Guest82803> it mounts as loop after boot
[00:10] <reisio> but my guess is that if you have it at all, you installed the "wrong" thing
[00:10] <k1l> snap core? what ubuntu is that exactly?
[00:10] <Guest82803> 16.04
[00:11] <Guest82803> I wanted to try the ubuntu live kernel patching thingy
[00:11] <k1l> so no ubuntu snappy core install on some arm board or such
[00:11] <Guest82803> no
[00:11] <nacc> Guest82803: livepatch requires snaps
[00:11] <k1l> the livepatching service needs to run with snapd.
[00:11] <Guest82803> ubuntu server 16.04 on x86
[00:11] <Guest82803> I disabled it
[00:11] <k1l> then remove snapd
[00:11] <nacc> and yes the 'core' snap is present by default with snapd
[00:12] <nacc> reisio: k1l: confusing naming there :/
[00:12] <k1l> nacc: yes, some of the naming is suboptimal
[00:12] <reisio> don't ask me
[00:12] <nacc> heh
[00:12] <Guest82803> so...
[00:12] <reisio> it's true dpkg/apt-get is archaic, but the present approach to add a million worse things on top of it is beyond me
[00:13] <reisio> Guest82803: /nick soguy
[00:13] <nacc> Guest82803: so what's your question then?
[00:13] <soguy> how can I remove it?
[00:13] <soguy> is there an apt-get remove command?
[00:13] <k1l> soguy: remove the snapd pacakge
[00:14] <soguy> got it :)
[00:14] <stinger910> Anyone interested in helping a complete noob set up their vncserver for desktop environment
[00:14] <reisio> http://askubuntu.com/questions/772912/ubuntu-16-04-core-os-snap-wont-remove
[00:14] <soguy> I really hate this snappy things
[00:14] <soguy> well... thanks guys
[00:14] <c|oneman> stinger910: I use thinlinc
[00:15] <c|oneman> it has sound and shit.
[00:15] <k1l> reisio: its about removing the snapd package with apt. not uninstall snap with snap.
[00:16] <reisio> k1l: what is?
[00:18] <mikeymop> there is no ubuntu documentation that doesn't use a2enmod
[00:18] <mikeymop> can soeone explain what a2enmod php7.0 does
[00:19] <mikeymop> i'm asking because it says it's already enabled and it's ubuntu specific
[00:19] <k1l> a2enmod enables apache2 modules
[00:19] <k1l> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/a2enmod.8.html  for more details on that command
[00:20] <k1l> mikeymop: so its already enabled php? what is the issue then?
[00:21] <mikeymop> k1l: when i run a php file it 404s me
[00:21] <mikeymop> i added a vhost for */wp/
[00:21] <mikeymop> and all of wordpress is in */wp/
[00:24] <k1l> mikeymop: that doesnt sound like an php issue. did you restart apache?
[00:25] <nacc> mikeymop: a 404 is typically debugged by looking at apache's logs
[00:25] <nacc> mikeymop: and a 404 usually is a configuration issue with apache, not with php
[00:27] <dsnyders> Hi all!  I have set up  rsync to do a backup.  It sits at "sending incremental file list" for a long time.  Is there any way of getting it to show its progress? Note: I already have --progress set.
[00:38] <Kazuto> nacc: Finally have some free time, wiping my server now. Thanks again for your help earlier :)
[00:50] <nacc> Kazuto: np, gl!
[00:52] <hillCownTree> did ubuntu remove chromium from the software center recently?
[00:53] <reisio> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&suite=all&section=all&keywords=chromium
[00:53] <bazhang> !info chromium-browser
[00:53] <bazhang> no
[00:54] <hillCownTree> strange, was not showing up on a new install after update && upgrade
[00:54] <hillCownTree> persisted after rebooty
[00:56] <Bashing-om> hillCownTree: universe repo enabled ?
[00:57] <hillCownTree> system is all defaults so I would assume universe was caught.  I just sent the system to reboot and it showed up again
[00:57] <hillCownTree> strange that it was not availabe from the start
[00:59] <mikeymop> will apt-purge apache reset all the directories in root I mucked up
[00:59] <mikeymop> or do i have to manually remove them
[01:00] <compact> hi. i have vsftpd, working fine. i enabled SSL however clients not using SSL cannot login anymore
[01:00] <compact> any idea?
[01:20] <luisf> hi
[01:20] <donofrio> what's the package to install a full gui xfce desktop from apt-get thought it was one master packge for the whole show?
[01:22] <cfhowlett> donofrio, sudo apt install xfce4
[01:22] <cfhowlett> DE only
[01:22] <donofrio> what about all the 'other' packages that make a full desktop experence?
[01:23] <OerHeks> xubuntu-desktop
[01:23] <cfhowlett> so what you actually want is the xubuntu metapackage: sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop
[01:24] <Bashing-om> !info xfce4-goodies | donofrio Maybe to :
[01:27] <Kazuto> nacc: Re-flashed it. Now's the time to re-add everything relevant. I'm going to consider this practice for a future sysadmin job ;)
[01:29] <donofrio> I'm playing with https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/user_support
[01:29] <donofrio> opps meant - https://msdn.microsoft.com/commandline/wsl/install_guide
[01:31] <mikeymop> http://askubuntu.com/questions/803430/getting-errors-while-installing-php-on-ubuntu16-04
[01:31] <mikeymop> this failed me
[01:32] <mikeymop> dpkg -r couldn't remove the package either so I couldn't do that to get it to become an installation candidate again
[01:33] <nacc> !ubuwin | donofrio
[01:34] <jon__> so I took a dd copy of an install of ubuntu 14.04 before updating to 16.04...16.04 is all jacked up, what's the easiest way to revert to that dd copy? boot to a cd and dd it back onto the drive?
[01:34] <jon__> (I think that's the only way?)
[01:34] <reisio> jon__: that's the "simplest" way, yes
[01:34] <reisio> but since you clearly have time on your hands to allow the system to be unproductive, I'd say figuring out how to make 16 work is a better us of that time
[01:34] <reisio> better use*
[01:35] <jon__> I think the issue is that dell mucked with 14 a bit too much
[01:35] <jon__> and then updating to 16 got me stuck on drivers, etc, that don't update because their repo was disabled by the update
[01:35] <cfhowlett> jon__, are you using the standard ubuntu or the dell image?
[01:35] <jon__> the dell image
[01:35] <donofrio> nacc, that channel doesn't exist on freenode
[01:36] <jon__> I wonder if I would have better luck with a vanilla 16.04 install
[01:36] <reisio> jon__: that was your mistake
[01:36] <reisio> yes you would
[01:36] <nacc> donofrio: uh, yes it does
[01:36] <cfhowlett> jon__, standard image works fine on most Dell's.
[01:36] <jon__> there's a lot of potential for driver nightmares
[01:36] <jon__> it has one of those wacky video cards that switches on and off, and a usb-c dock
[01:36] <cfhowlett> and yet it takes only moments to test this for yourself ...
[01:37] <donofrio> nacc, you should put a space before the period, throws off the hyperlink - lol
[01:37] <nacc> donofrio: sounds like a bug in your IRC client
[01:37] <jon__> I honestly have no idea how to resolve the issues with 16.04 short of reinstalling -- the machine randomly hard freezes, particularly when attaching and removing display devices (though sometimes just on its own)
[01:38] <nacc> donofrio: as channel names aren't hyperlinks, that's something your client is interpreting.
[01:38] <cfhowlett> get 16.04.2, make a bootable USB, boot it up.  if all works, install.
[01:39] <jon__> you think that I might have substantially better luck with that vs the upgraded copy? ie. this is not a waste of time
[01:39] <jon__> it'd be nice if Dell said exactly what they did >_<
[01:39] <cfhowlett> I think it's worth the few minutes of your valuable time to conduct this experiment.  do it for science.
[01:40] <jon__> the lack of support from dell has been kind of frustrating for a "supported" laptop, but I'll give this a shot
[01:41] <donofrio> nacc, probably I'm using hexchat from xfce on cygwin64 on win7
[01:42] <mikeymop> i took it down to see if that helped
[01:42] <mikeymop> can someone help me out of dependency hell
[01:42] <mikeymop> or whatever i did to apt
[01:43] <nacc> mikeymop: yes
[01:43] <nacc> mikeymop: what did you do?
[01:43] <mikeymop> was trying to get wordpress installed
[01:44] <nacc> mikeymop: `apt install wordpress`?
[01:44] <mikeymop> messed around with apache
[01:44] <mikeymop> i did it from wordpress-latest.tar
[01:44] <nacc> sight
[01:44] <nacc> *sigh
[01:44] <nacc> mikeymop: why??
[01:44] <mikeymop> anyway, in playing around in manually installed libapache2-mod-php7.0
[01:44] <mikeymop> nacc: online tutorial
[01:44] <nacc> mikeymop: not a great reason, but ok
[01:44] <Oderus> hey. having issues installing a package. anyone able to tell me the issue? https://paste.ubuntu.com/24087512/
[01:44] <mikeymop> figure it was best practice since it was bleeding edge
[01:44] <nacc> mikeymop: ok, so you installed the php7.0 module for apache
[01:45] <nacc> mikeymop: only if you know what you're doing.
[01:45] <mikeymop> but id didn't use hte metapackage
[01:45] <mikeymop> php-common
[01:45] <nacc> mikeymop: why would it?
[01:45] <mikeymop> i didnt
[01:45] <mikeymop> i should have
[01:45] <nacc> mikeymop: ok, so install 'libapache2-mod-php'?
[01:46] <mikeymop> libapache2-mod-php7.0 == x from now on
[01:46] <nacc> mikeymop: huh?
[01:46] <mikeymop> dpkg -r libapahce2-mod-php7.0 fails
[01:46] <mikeymop> http://askubuntu.com/questions/803430/getting-errors-while-installing-php-on-ubuntu16-04
[01:46] <mikeymop> i'm having this issue
[01:46] <nacc> Oderus: where did you get that package from?
[01:46] <nacc> mikeymop: with a different verison of php7.0 i assume (not 7.0.8)
[01:46]  * jamesd notes there is a reason to test things out on a vm or perhaps a docker container.. a lot easier to recover. 
[01:46] <nacc> jamesd: or just use the packages
[01:47] <mikeymop> yea
[01:47] <nacc> jamesd: but even then, test them pre-production, yes
[01:47] <nacc> mikeymop: you're getting that same exact output?
[01:47] <Oderus> nacc: an added ppa
[01:47] <mikeymop> seemed logical that manually downloading the apt archive and replacing the sytem file in the anser wouls fix it
[01:47] <nacc> Oderus: right, so talk to that ppa's owner
[01:47] <jpugarte1> hello fellas, is there anyone here willing to help me with a problem with broken dependencies? I am new to Ubuntu, and have tried different solutions I found out there, but nothing has worked so far.
[01:47] <mikeymop> however apt-get -f install still fails with OP's error
[01:47] <mikeymop> can i safetly rm -rf /usr/lib/php
[01:48] <Oderus> nacc: ok sorry. thank you.
[01:48] <nacc> mikeymop: without removing the packages? it will probably break apt
[01:48] <jamesd> i didn't know it was dependency hell day in ubuntu land.
[01:48] <nacc> mikeymop: in that apt will be unsure what you did
[01:48] <nacc> mikeymop: can you just remove all the php packages you have installed?
[01:48] <mikeymop> it thinks they're not installed
[01:48] <mikeymop> even dpkg does
[01:48] <nacc> mikeymop: can you pastebin the exact command and message?
[01:48] <mikeymop> 1s
[01:50] <nacc> mikeymop: i will have to step away shortly, but will be aroudn again tmrw
[01:50] <nacc> mikeymop: should just be `command | pastebinit`
[01:50] <mikeymop> https://hastebin.com/akusuwirib.sql
[01:51] <mikeymop> ok
[01:51] <mikeymop> i was ammending three together idk that would pipe it
[01:51] <nacc> mikeymop: that's *not* the same error
[01:51] <nacc> "Error: The new file /usr/lib/php/7.0/php.ini-production does not exist!"
[01:51] <nacc> is what hte ubuntu help said
[01:52] <mikeymop> i had that too, since replaced it
[01:52] <nacc> mikeymop: right, but i can only help what i see
[01:52] <nacc> mikeymop: so in any case
[01:52] <nacc> mikeymop: can you install 'libapache2-mod-php' (you shouldn't install the version-specific pacakges generally)
[01:54] <mikeymop> it'll do everything and get stuck with the same error, waiting for pastebinit
[01:54] <nacc> mikeymop: if that doesn't fix it, you should look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/libapache2-mod-php7.0.config and see why it's failing
[01:54] <mikeymop> thanks
[01:55] <mikeymop> it didn't exist sthat could be the problem
[01:55] <nacc> mikeymop: is there anything in there with that prefix? /var/lib/dpkg/info/libapache2-mod-php7.0*
[01:56] <nacc> mikeymop: oh sorry, it was the .postinst that failed
[01:56] <Bashing-om> jpugarte1: Pastebin an example command and the resulting output ; we see what we can make of it .
[01:56] <jpugarte1> thanks, bashing-om... coming right here https://paste.ubuntu.com/24087532/
[01:56] <mikeymop> nacc: a little
[01:57] <mikeymop> conffiles list md5sums ponstinst postrm prerm
[01:57] <nacc> mikeymop: right, so it's the postinst file that failed
[01:57] <mikeymop> if i remove it will apt pull it in?
[01:57] <nacc> mikeymop: well, removing it doesn't really achieve anything
[01:57] <beancounter956> bye
[01:57] <nacc> mikeymop: gtg -- ping me tmrw?
[01:57] <mikeymop> ok thank you
[01:57] <mikeymop> sorry to keep ya
[01:57] <nacc> mikeymop: np
[01:58] <xheart> along side with Ubuntu 16.04lts?
[01:58] <xheart> hi everyone, Can I install Kubuntu along side with Ubuntu 16.04lts?
[01:59] <bazhang> xheart, kubuntu-desktop package
[01:59] <bazhang> then select in login
[01:59] <xheart> ?
[02:00] <bazhang> you want kubuntu and ubuntu right?
[02:00] <xheart> yes
[02:00] <bazhang> kubuntu-desktop, install it
[02:00] <xheart> sudo ???
[02:00] <bazhang> yes
[02:01] <reisio> sudo tracebustah bustah
[02:01] <bazhang> ignore what reisio just said
[02:01] <xheart> thanks reisio
[02:02] <xheart> i meant thanks bazhang
[02:02] <bazhang> welcome
[02:02] <xheart> what would be the correct command?
[02:02] <reisio> to do what?
[02:03] <chu> I think (without testing) it is: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:04] <Bashing-om> jpugarte1: Where does libglapi-mesa come from ?  show ' apt list libglapi-mesa ' .
[02:04] <xheart> it worked chu
[02:06] <jpugarte1> Bashing-om: see updated pastebin https://paste.ubuntu.com/24087615/
[02:06] <DarkAceZ> any idea why when I try to install WINE, my package manager wants to remove 5 unrelated packages? (a2jmidid ardour blender jackmeter simplescreenrecorder)
[02:07] <jpugarte1> unrelated: how do you address someone in particular? 'nick:' didn't seem to do the trick, neither '@nick'
[02:07] <kostkon> !paste | DarkAceZ
[02:08] <xheart> it is asking to install "lightdm" or "sddm" I do not know what that means
[02:08] <gnomethrower> xheart: what are you trying to install?
[02:09] <gnomethrower> oh, KDE?
[02:09] <xheart> i have ubuntu 16.04lts and want to install kubuntu alongside
[02:09] <gnomethrower> xheart: I recommend LightDM
[02:10] <bazhang> xheart, that is not alongside, it's just a different DE
[02:10] <bazhang> xheart, which you then select at login
[02:10] <xheart> ok thanks guys i am installing right now.
[02:11] <Bashing-om> jpugarte1: Look'n . back soonest .
[02:11] <jpugarte1> Bashing-om: I think the file came from 'xorg-edgers/ppa'. Doing a ppa-purge right now
[02:12] <Bashing-om> !info libglapi-mesa xenial | jpugarte1
[02:14] <jpugarte1> Bashing-om: After the ppa-purge, I could installed VLC. I think libglapi-mesa might have been installed either with an old game that included a GPU driver installation (since these files include OpenGL libraries)... I wonder if doing the ppa-purge messed up another software (could be that game, but could also be ROS [robotic operative system])... I will find out soon, I guess. Thanks for your help :)
[02:15] <jpugarte1> *I meant after the ppa-purge, I succesfully installed VLC
[02:16] <jpugarte1> gotta go now, thanks again @Bashing-om
[02:16] <Bashing-om> jpugarte1: Good deal . that PPA is depreciated ( maybe no longer even exist ) .
[02:22] <jpmh> I have a server, running 14.4, been fine for a couple of years.  Today I note that fail2ban-server is taking 95%+ of the cpu time.  Nothing in the fail2ban.log shows up.  Any ideas?
[02:28] <mikeymop> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WordPress
[02:28] <mikeymop> i've been following this, the script told me to go to local host to setup wordpress
[02:28] <mikeymop> however i still get hte apache index page
[02:30] <jpmh> mikeymop: you may do better in the #httpd room
[02:32] <mikeymop> thanks
[02:32] <mikeymop> they wont help with distro specific things actually
[02:55] <efu_> hay
[02:55] <efu_> any one here
[02:56] <Bashing-om> efu_: Throw some bait out, see what bites .
[02:57] <efu_> any one know how to install wine?
[02:58] <efu_> i have some problem
[02:58] <cybervking[m]> apt-get
[02:58] <efu_> please
[02:59] <Bashing-om> !wine | efu_
[02:59] <efu_> i've tried
[03:01] <efu_> okke thanks
[03:01] <cybervking[m]> sudo add-apt repository ppa: ubuntufine/ppa
[03:01] <cybervking[m]> Sudo apt get update
[03:02] <cybervking[m]> Sudo apt get install wine
[03:02] <efu_> if you've tried ?
[03:03] <efu_> have you tried ?
[03:08] <mikeymop> so apt get install apache2 says its installed
[03:08] <mikeymop> but no apache2 directories were created in /etc or /var
[03:13] <mikeymop> https://hastebin.com/owewecusos.pl
[03:13] <mikeymop> can someone look at this error?
[03:21] <Jordan_U> mikeymop: Please pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep apache".
[03:22] <mikeymop> https://hastebin.com/afuwopawok.vbs
[03:24] <Jordan_U> mikeymop: systemctl status apache2.service
[03:25] <chull> hi! my husband's computer running Ubuntu 16.04 is giving an error message: Not enough free disk space The upgrade needs a total of 40.0 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 22.0 M of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'.
[03:25] <chull> can someone guide us please?
[03:26] <jon-mac> what would cause commands to start throwing "operation not permitted" errors on io other than permissions? I cant seem to open or copy this file but the permissions are right...
[03:26] <jamesd> chull: which directories are full    df -h
[03:27] <chalcedony> james ty looking
[03:29] <Jordan_U> !details | jon-mac
[03:30] <chalcedony> jamesd, looks like /dev/sda1                    236M  207M   18M  93% /boot
[03:31] <chalcedony> or shall i pastebin the output? jamesd ?
[03:32] <jamesd> no, dpkg -l  | grep linux-kernel
[03:32] <jamesd> if you see more than one version showing.. you can remove older kernels that aren't booted
[03:32] <jamesd> uname -av  to see the version of the current kernel
[03:33] <jon-mac> Jordan_U:  it's 16.04 ... https://pastebin.com/XBt3kmJc
[03:33] <chalcedony> didn't show anything
[03:33] <jamesd> oops   dpkg -l  | grep linux-image
[03:33] <chalcedony> ok
[03:34] <craptalk> i got this error code:
[03:34] <craptalk> clnt_create: RPC: Port mapper failure - Unable to receive: errno 113
[03:34] <craptalk> i was trying to connect to my nfs server which is on centos
[03:35] <craptalk> which also in my vware
[03:35] <chalcedony> jamesd, ok i see bunches of them
[03:35] <craptalk> why is it happening
[03:35] <craptalk> i enabled, rpcbind, nfs-server.service, nfs-common
[03:37] <jamesd> chalcedony: compare the version that is currently running and delete the older ones....   apt-get remove   linux-image-xxxx not being used
[03:37] <chalcedony> okies
[03:37] <b-yeezi> craptalk, is port 111 open?
[03:39] <Jordan_U> jon-mac: What filesystem is this file on?
[03:39] <jon-mac> Jordan_U: whatever the default is? ext4?
[03:40] <Jordan_U> jon-mac: lsattr
[03:40] <jon-mac> machine is restarting, one sec
[03:41] <jon-mac> Jordan_U: lsattr is failing on that file too
[03:41] <jon-mac> "operation not permitted while reading flags on file.vdi"
[03:42] <craptalk> b-yeezi: 111/tcp open  rpcbind
[03:42] <craptalk> that is open, on my machine
[03:42] <b-yeezi> what about the centos server?
[03:42] <jon-mac> Jordan_U: could the fs be corrupt? this machine has been hard freezing and had to be hard shutdown several times
[03:43] <craptalk> b-yeezi: it also open
[03:44] <craptalk> i think, maybe i missed some service
[03:44] <chalcedony> jamesd, http://pastebin.com/4X0RmYKS
[03:46] <craptalk> b-yeezi: i followed the instruction to set up NFS on my centos server
[03:46] <craptalk> i think i made it right, but not in my ubuntu
[03:48] <jamesd> chalcedony: you have a typo.. the corect one would of been linux-image-extra-3.3.0-59-generic
[03:48] <Jordan_U> jon-mac: That's a possability. Is all of your important data backed up?
[03:48] <jon-mac> well, i took an image of this machine about a week ago before updating to 16.04
[03:48] <jon-mac> it's just this one file that seems to be problematic -- which is a windows vm disk
[03:49] <jon-mac> seems like i should just cut my losses
[03:49] <Jordan_U> jon-mac: I would recommend booting from a LiveUSB and using fsck to check the filesystem.
[03:49] <jon-mac> well i was going to boot to usb to do a dd anyway, so i'll try fscking to see if i can coax it off
[03:50] <b-yeezi> craptalk, have you configured specific folders to use nfs? and that the target host has access to it?
[03:52] <Delphin> how can I find out what is my imap server I'm using? thanks!
[03:54] <jon-mac> Jordan_U: fsck /dev/deviceidentifier right? it seems to say everything is right (says "clean"), but it seems suspiciously fast
[03:54] <jon-mac> fsck should take some time to run, right? this is running near instantly
[03:56] <b-yeezi> craptalk, if not, see https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/3/html/Reference_Guide/s1-nfs-server-export.html
[03:56] <craptalk> b-yeezi: i created folder x on my centos Server, added it into mode 777 equally, i put a line on /etc/exports, saying '/x my_centos_server(rw,sync,no_root_squash)'
[03:56] <craptalk> what else did i miss?
[03:57] <b-yeezi> the target system. For instance, I do /music 192.168.1.0/24 (rw, sync, no_root_squash)
[03:58] <b-yeezi> That allows access for the entire subnet
[04:00] <carlyanna> Guys! need help again :(
[04:01] <carlyanna> tryng to get my bluetooth driver to work - just reinstalled ubuntu entirely today onto an old lenovo ideapad (n585)
[04:01] <chalcedony> jamesd, with pasting the name http://pastebin.com/G8tGMxuW
[04:01] <carlyanna> I tried following these instructiions and said ' nope - need to go tak to my peeps cause this isnt right '
[04:01] <carlyanna> http://askubuntu.com/questions/599711/bluetooth-on-lenovo-ideapad-s20-30
[04:01] <carlyanna> anyone know how i can update my bluetooth driver for my lenovo
[04:03] <Ben64> carlyanna: what does 'rfkill list' say
[04:04] <carlyanna> ben64 how do i- fi-nd that for you
[04:04] <carlyanna> and i-sn't there an eas-ier way to address you, li-ke typi-ng 2 letters of ur name
[04:05] <Ben64> carlyanna: my name is 5 characters long. you type it into a terminal and pastebin the output
[04:05] <carlyanna> i- know -it was just fun, when -i knew how to do i-t
[04:05] <carlyanna> let me try to search the termi-nal for what you need?
[04:07] <kortuzian> hey guys, i have a question regarding partitioning on a fresh install. if i choose the delete disk and install ubuntu option, it only creates efi partition, and one single partition for root and home, and then one for swap
[04:08] <carlyanna> ben64
[04:08] <carlyanna> no idea how to find what you need in this mess of a terminal
[04:08] <kortuzian> is it possible to create partitions so /home is separate, specifically, when i want to install the next LTS, the partitioner doesn't format the /home partition?
[04:09] <chalcedony> kortuzian, choose the custom installation
[04:09] <kortuzian> if i do so, which option do i have to choose for it to not format my /home partition
[04:09] <tetotronic> Hello
[04:09] <kortuzian> next time i install
[04:09] <jon-mac> kortuzian: you can do lts to lts without a reinstall
[04:09] <chalcedony> yes
[04:09] <tetotronic> Can somebody help with a question on Kino (video editor)
[04:09] <carlyanna> can anyone help me run some commands to update my bluetooth driver?
[04:10] <kortuzian> jon-mac: i know i can upgrade, but that the fresh install is preferred. but on a fresh install, is there any way to keep /home?
[04:10] <chalcedony> im getting an error trying to make room by deleting unused kernels on hubby's ubuntu 16.04. maybe jamesd went to bed?  with pasting the name http://pastebin.com/G8tGMxuW
[04:11] <wgup> Hey everyone, I was wondering, if it's possible to install firewalld on ubuntu server?
[04:12] <arooni> i'm pretty tired on my lenovo laptop of resume almost never working (caps lock flashes coming back from resume) on ubuntu 16.04;  .. have a lenovo t420 laptop.  any suggestions? upgrade to 16.10 ?  something else?
[04:12] <plgos> whats a good simple fast window manager for ubuntu
[04:12] <carlyanna> AROONI - i dont like the 16.1
[04:12] <carlyanna> it was a bad bad decision for me
[04:12] <carlyanna> i dont suggest
[04:13] <tetotronic> quit
[04:14] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Try as the package manager suggest " Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them. " . Do in terminal ' sudo apt autoremove ' and pastebin the result .
[04:14] <carlyanna> GUYS HERE IS MY SITUATIONN, I AM NEWER TO UBUNTU BUT HAVE BEEN LEARNING AND TRAINING MYSELF THE SYSTEMS FOR MONTHS NOW...I LEARN MUCH AND HAVE MUCH RESPECT FOR EVERYONE HERE, IF ANYONE FEELS LIKE BEING A MENTOR TO TEACH ME NEW THINGS I CANT TELL YOU HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE...right now i just need to knw how to update ym bluetooth driver for my newly installed ubuntu desktop on my lenovo
[04:14] <jayjo> if I do sudo service <servicename> start - will this restart on reboot?
[04:15] <carlyanna> any other suggstions for additional things to do with the new install would be so greatly appreciated
[04:15] <arooni> carlyanna: what happened
[04:16] <carlyanna> arooni it was just not the same man, lots of complaints and just had many many issues i could not fix
[04:16] <carlyanna> came here, was told to go ahead and jump back to 16.4
[04:16] <arooni> carlyanna: well thats good to know.  maybe 17.04 will be better
[04:16] <arooni> is there a way to upgrade my kernel
[04:16] <Camron> setting up ubuntu server 16.04 and cant get the static ip to work correctly
[04:17] <arooni> without upgrading to 16.10?
[04:17] <Delphin> whenever I run sa-learn --dump magic I get an error http://pastebin.com/raw/NzdxKPCA  Please someone help!
[04:18] <b-yeezi> arooni, if you are on 16.04, you can upgrade to the 16.10 kernel
[04:18] <tgm4883> arooni: you could install the HWE
[04:18] <arooni> whats the hwe
[04:18] <b-yeezi> tgm4883 is exactly right
[04:18] <arooni> b-yeezi: will that break anything i have now?
[04:18] <tgm4883> !hwe | arooni
[04:20] <b-yeezi> It should not, however there is a chance. For instance, I have an Asus X205ta with a known bug in kernel 4.8
[04:20] <arooni> tgm4883: b-yeezi ; can i always downgrade from that latest kernel if it doesnt work ?
[04:21] <b-yeezi> you should be able to boot to grub and choose the old kernel.
[04:21] <arooni> seems like others have the same problem with resume as i do https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1566302
[04:21] <b-yeezi> Make sure you do a backup before just in case.
[04:22] <arooni> but apparently in that thread someone says : "The kernel from 16.10 does not fix Mint 18 and Ubuntu 16.04, so I think it is not a kernel code regression."  so maybe no hope :\
[04:24] <Younder> By kernel do you mean 3.13.
[04:25] <Younder> I mean there us a 4.0 as well now
[04:26] <lopataryum> hi guys. when partitioning during install, is it okay to just set the efi partition, i dont have to manually set any boot flags and ubuntu takes care of it?
[04:26] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Did you see my xx:14 entry ?
[04:26] <craptalk> b-yeezi: am i missing some configuration>
[04:26] <Younder> lopataryum, UEFI install is tricky. I tried 4 times before I got it to work.
[04:27] <b-yeezi> craptalk, yes, like I has, you need the target host between the directory and the options
[04:27] <tgm4883> lopataryum: yes that should be fine
[04:27] <carlyanna> Guys need some info on where to update drivers for lenovo via ubuntu - any ideas?
[04:27] <b-yeezi> craptalk,  For instance, I do /music 192.168.1.0/24 (rw, sync, no_root_squash)
[04:27] <carlyanna> PS - anyone willing to give me pointers on awesome stuff for newly installed ubuntu desktop is welcome to pm me! All of the info in here is so fantastic
[04:28] <Younder> lopataryum, But then I had custom partions
[04:28] <mikeymop> a2enmod php says it doesn't not exist
[04:28] <mikeymop> i installed php packages and it says they're installed
[04:28] <lopataryum> so basically, i chose something else for my partitiong, gave 512 mb to efi, 40gb to root, 400 someting to home, and 4gb to swap
[04:28] <mikeymop> can anyone help me
[04:28] <lopataryum> is that ok?
[04:28] <tgm4883> mikeymop: that doesn't appear to be an apache module
[04:28] <tgm4883> lopataryum: yea that sounds fine
[04:28] <Younder> carlyanna, Have you seen the magazine Ubuntu user. It has a tot of ptograms and tips
[04:28] <Younder> programs
[04:29] <mikeymop> tgm4883: i read some guide that anticipate a php.conf in /etc/apache2
[04:29] <mikeymop> however i dont have this
[04:29] <lopataryum> thanks tgm4883: so ubuntu installer should take care of all flags, and as i set it to efi, it formats and flags appropriately?
[04:29] <mikeymop> i followed the ubuntu documentation for installation,
[04:29] <carlyanna> younder - no i would love to!
[04:29] <tgm4883> lopataryum: yep, that's how I do it
[04:30] <tgm4883> mikeymop: what guide?
[04:30] <lopataryum> great! tgm4883: thank you very much
[04:30] <tgm4883> mikeymop: what documentation, I'm not sure what you're trying to do
[04:30] <mikeymop> tgm4883: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WordPress
[04:30] <mikeymop> i just want wordpress to work
[04:30] <mikeymop> i've been going at this since 3pm
[04:30] <carlyanna> Younder: is there any way i can like download the IRC and have it on my desktop somehow???
[04:31] <mikeymop> apache is serving the sites however it's not parsing in php
[04:31] <mikeymop> php is installed
[04:31] <tgm4883> this feels like a bad way to run wordpress, but it's been years since I've ran a wordpress installation
[04:32] <mikeymop> i tried setting up ubuntu the classical way
[04:32] <mikeymop> and it was a mess
[04:32] <mikeymop> ie. without the lamp stack, just manuall installing dependencies
[04:33] <Younder> carlyanna, No, you subscribe to it. http://www.sparkhaus-shop.com/row/magazines/ubuntu-user.html?SID=fffadie922241ckmm0thcogrb7
[04:34] <Younder> And yes there are digital isses
[04:34] <tgm4883> mikeymop: what's the output of 'dpkg -l | grep php | nc termbin.com 9999'
[04:34] <mikeymop> nc termbin.com?
[04:35] <tgm4883> yes, you should get a link
[04:35] <tgm4883> I've got to run in 5 minutes
[04:35] <arooni> how do i get something to auto start on startup for instance 'sudo tlp start' ;
[04:35] <mikeymop> tf
[04:35] <mikeymop> i think i have to just nuke the server and start from .iso again
[04:35] <arooni> to my understanding; startup programs cant run things via sudo
[04:35] <mikeymop> apt is just too messed up
[04:36] <tgm4883> arooni: they wouldn't need to...
[04:36] <mikeymop> tgm4883: do i need a package to do that
[04:36] <tgm4883> mikeymop: nc should already be installed
[04:36] <mikeymop> it is but no output
[04:36] <mikeymop> nest in quotes?
[04:37] <mikeymop> http://termbin.com/kheq
[04:37] <mikeymop> was in stdout for some reason
[04:37] <arooni> tgm4883: ok but how can i have sudo tlp start; happen on startup
[04:38] <Younder> sudo apt install .. is your friend. Compared to Debian Ubuntu is very lean. You need to know your lib's
[04:38] <tgm4883> mikeymop: looks good. what does your virtual host file look like?
[04:38] <tgm4883> arooni: what is tlp?
[04:38] <mikeymop> can i pipe cat into termbin
[04:38] <tgm4883> mikeymop: yea
[04:39] <arooni> tgm4883: http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-linux-advanced-power-management.html ;; hopefully will let me resume from suspend
[04:39] <mikeymop> tgm4883: http://termbin.com/300y
[04:39] <mikeymop> the filesmatch tags were added by me to try to get it to parse php
[04:39] <tgm4883> arooni: right in that page it says "TLP will start automatically."
[04:40] <chalcedony> Bashing-om that worked great! thank you :)
[04:41] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Verify there us no other issue ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' that there are but 2 kernels now in residence .
[04:42] <Younder> sudo apt autoremove
[04:42] <arooni> tgm4883: apparently its time for me to go to sleep lol
[04:42] <tgm4883> mikeymop: that looks wonky. I've got to run, honestly, I'd start over and use the server guide https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/serverguide/wordpress.html
[04:42] <mikeymop> ok thanks
[04:43] <tgm4883> good luck
[04:44] <mikeymop> exit
[04:44] <mikeymop> exit
[04:44] <Younder> good for removing them old kernels
[04:44] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, i have a whole bunch to remove, i think
[04:45] <Younder> sudo apt uninstall ..
[04:45] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Then autoremove is broke . Show us that dpkg output in a pastebin . see what we need to do .
[04:46] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, ok :)
[04:47] <Younder> dpkg and apt and apt-get can sometimes conflict.
[04:48] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/1uGn2XJE
[04:49] <Younder> if you do a 'dpkg -i' it does not necessarily fit into the Ubuntu directory tree
[04:49] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Look'n at your http://pastebin.com/1uGn2XJE . standby .
[04:50] <ner0x> Good afternoon all, I'm looking for a software suite that would allow me to write paper that I could organize, link videos, pictures, sources. etc. Anywhere know a good place I could start? Thanks in advance!
[04:50] <chalcedony> ty Bashing-om :)
[04:52] <Younder> ner0x, I use LaTex, but FrameMaker or LibreOffice offer a more WYSIWYG feel.
[04:53] <sohith> HIII
[04:53] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Looking good ! Now all those packages with the leading 'rc' we can deal with. I like it squeaky clean behind me .
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> ner0x: tomboy is also pretty usefull for short text organize
[04:53] <sohith> any indian
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> !in | sohith
[04:54] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: While there is no built in way to remove all of your configuration information from your removed packages you can remove all configuration data from every removed package. To purge all removed but not yet purged packages, where The state is rc, the package is removed, but the config files are not removed....with the following command. dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo
[04:54] <Bashing-om> dpkg --purge .
[04:54] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, is there a way to set it to automatically clean behind it? so if it adds one it deletes them?
[04:54] <sohith> i am new to this channel
[04:54] <chalcedony> sohith, welcome
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> !support | sohith
[04:55] <sohith> anyone learn me how to hack fb,gmail etc.,
[04:55] <Younder> no
[04:55] <reisio> sohith: #dragonwallpaper
[04:55] <reisio> I mean #kali
[04:55] <floating_rain> are Ubuntu's softewares latest? I mean whom installed by "sudo apt-get install"
[04:55] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Yes ,, In do believe in 16.04 one can .. gimme a bit to check . ( as it might be 16.10 ) .
[04:56] <Younder> Ah you want kali-linux
[04:56] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, sure thanks!
[04:56] <Younder> Penetration testing is fine, breking other peoples systems is not
[04:56] <sohith> in kali-linux need for hacking
[04:57] <sohith> ubuntu not supports hacking right!!!
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> sohith: you can install penetration software on ubuntu also
[04:58] <Younder> Depends what you mean by supporting. Enables, then yes. Encourages, then no.
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> sohith: but hacking topics we dont encourage
[04:59] <sohith> lotuspsychje what is penetration software bro,pls help me i am tottaly new to this
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> sohith: do you have ubuntu installed right now?
[04:59] <sohith> yes bro,i am using ubuntu
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> sohith: wich version?
[05:00] <Younder> Hacking is more the domain of l00pt or soething
[05:00] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: This ?? " Use the unattended-upgrades package to regularly run autoremove for you. Edit the autoremove setting in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades from 'false' to 'true' " .
[05:00] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, looking
[05:01] <chalcedony> ty much
[05:01] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Open source -- we are all in this together .
[05:03] <sohith> i am using old version bro,present update is there for me
[05:03] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, youre awesome
[05:05] <sohith> bro i am using 14.04 version
[05:05] <Younder> bro is a packet logger. Useful for logging penetration attempts wil the assistance of Snort of Surricat for example
[05:06] <sohith> younder thanks for info
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> !manual | sohith start here to learn the terminal commands
[05:06] <sohith> ok i will
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> sohith: after you learned to install software with apt, you can test out pentesting yourself
[05:07] <Younder> Security Onion has a pretty neat setup for intrusion detection. Kalin Linux for penetration testing.
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> Younder: kali isnt recommend for a starter, lets also not discuss that here :p
[05:08] <sohith> ok lotus and younder bro's,thanks for your info
[05:09] <Younder> You will want to run virtual machines for this though as Security Onion needs Ubuntu 12.04
[05:09] <sohith> i will start learning bro
[05:10] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Naw not me .. nacc is awesome ! For our peace of mind now U want that you ean ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' any errors reported ?
[05:11] <Bashing-om> want you to run **
[05:11] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, im way behind you, did i need to do other stuff first?
[05:11] <sohith> any one help me to get learn java
[05:12] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: does not matter . just at some point insure the package manager is in a happy state from that last sequence .
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> sohith: best learning experience, is searching yourself
[05:15] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, i just did the:  dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo  error: sudo: account-plugin-twitter: command not found
[05:15] <ner0x> Younder: I've been trying to use LibreOffice but the formatting of the layout seems to be really messy. What LaTex packages do you use?
[05:16] <Younder> ner0x, It is a text based format. Kinda old school , but us mathematicians love it
[05:17] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Does not compute . run it again and show that in a pastebin .
[05:17] <chalcedony> ok
[05:17] <ner0x> Younder: I used to use it a while back when I was doing debunk papers and needed to source stuff. Just forgot how to do it.
[05:18] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, l@vir:~$ dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo
[05:18] <chalcedony> sudo: account-plugin-twitter: command not found
[05:18] <chalcedony> im not sure what it has to do with twitter. its what it says
[05:18] <ner0x> Younder: What suite do you use?
[05:19] <Younder> ner0x, Lesly Lamports's book is the way to go here.
[05:21] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: We;; . is it installed ' dpkg -l account-plugin-twitter ' ?
[05:21] <Bashing-om> well*
[05:21] <Younder> ner0x, http://tug.org/texlive
[05:25] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, looking
[05:27] <Younder> ner0x, anyhow there is a #latex group here
[05:27] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: The command is incomplete . ! ' dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge '
[05:27] <reisio> so fugly
[05:28] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/RXbST0qS
[05:28] <Younder> ner0x, perhaps I can answer your questions there?
[05:28] <chalcedony> trying new command Bashing-om :)
[05:28] <Bashing-om> reisio: Uh huh .. I have seen messier . This one at least runs clean .
[05:29] <reisio> teh humanity
[05:30] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: I see - maybe - the break in the line got us in my original post .
[05:30] <chalcedony> ah its still purging
[05:31] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: :)
[05:34] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/k3Nd7u2a
[05:38] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Pretty is as pretty does . and that is prestty . Now is the package manager all happy ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ; sudo dpkg -C ' any errors reported ?
[05:38] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, super .. looking :)
[05:41] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, seems happy: Reading state information... Done
[05:41] <chalcedony> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:41] <chalcedony> ch
[05:41] <memeka> can anyone help with this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/24088463/ ?
[05:42] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: outstanding and ' dpkg -C ' just returned to terminal with no sass or backtalk ?
[05:43] <chalcedony> Bashing-om, yes works great
[05:48] <chalcedony> ok Bashing-om so those other commands?
[05:49] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Now I am the one behind " so those other commands " . what is the reference here ?
[05:51] <chalcedony> Bashing-om,  the unattended-upgrades package ?
[05:51] <chalcedony> also he seems to have lost his upgrade path.. he cant make it find the packages, computer wants a reboot too
[05:53] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: Oh .. sure .. unattended upgrades and autoremove . should workie to set from false to true .
[05:54] <chalcedony> [00:00:15] <Bashing-om> chalcedony: This ?? " Use the unattended-upgrades package to regularly run autoremove for you. Edit the autoremove setting in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades from 'false' to 'true' " .
[05:54] <chalcedony> ok ill do that
[05:54] <carlyanna603> hey guys i just got quassel set up and I am wondering if anyone nows of any good channels for me to join?
[06:03] <pakistanigeek> : )
[06:04] <pakistanigeek> exit
[06:23] <craptalk> please help, i got this error code clnt_create: RPC: Port mapper failure, i was trying to begin NFS
[06:23] <craptalk> my server is centos on my VmWare
[06:24] <craptalk> i am accessing it via ubuntu, which is my host computer
[06:24] <craptalk> done few things already
[06:24] <craptalk> port 2049, and 111 are both status open
[06:25] <craptalk> does it have some additional configuration for debian based connect to centos? i just dont think so, by anyway, enlighten me on this
[06:31] <Voron> hello
[06:49] <lerner> what do I need to read epub files?
[06:49] <OerHeks> !info calibre
[06:50] <lerner> OerHeks, any other options?
[06:50] <OerHeks> lerner, there are always options, but this one handles the most common ebooks.
[06:50] <reisio> fbreader, lucidor
[06:51] <lerner> fbreader seems familiar
[06:51] <reisio> calibre is nice, but it is indeed beastly
[06:51] <reisio> and Qt-y
[06:51] <reisio> and (not coincidentally?) Qt-y :p
[06:55] <lerner> wow
[06:55] <lerner> huge
[06:56] <OerHeks> and free
[06:58] <lerner> calibre is a bit overkill
[07:47] <vishal> hello, i have got acer aspire e 15 e5-553-t4pt , i tried all the methods in the forums and various sites but i failed to get touchpad scroll working
[07:47] <invving> vishal: hmmm
[07:47] <vishal> touchpad is not found in mouse and touchpad settings and synclient commands have no effect
[07:49] <vishal> can anyone here help me
[07:49] <swastik> hello
[07:49] <swastik> new here
[07:52] <CountrySafe> I am a rookie at GNU/Linux. Currently running the latest Ubuntu LTS 16.04. I don't know how to install many things. At the moment I am trying to install Node.js . Can someone help? I don't know where to start. The Readme file mentions nothing about installing it.
[07:54] <invving> CountrySafe:
[07:55] <ikevin> CountrySafe, hi, take a look on package manager and search for "node-"
[07:55] <Jan\> anyone know where to find a squid VM image ?
[07:56] <CountrySafe> ikevin, thank you. I will take a look.
[07:56] <ducasse> CountrySafe: the packagename seems to be 'nodejs'
[07:56] <CountrySafe> what is package manager?
[07:57] <CountrySafe> Is that the same as synaptic package manager?
[07:59] <ducasse> for example.
[08:04] <PipeItToDevNull> So a realtime kernel is worse for battery life on a laptop right? Based on my rudimentary understanding of it.
[08:09] <ikevin> Jan\, http://osb.unveiltech.com/
[08:13] <Juniper_> My keyboard doesn't work during grub and I need to reinstall ubuntu, How can I fix this?
[08:16] <Jan\> ikevin: ty
[08:16] <ikevin> junke1991, wireless keyboard?
[08:16] <ikevin> Jan\, you welcome
[08:32] <JP____> glad to see movement here, in most other rooms ppl are still sleeping
[09:01] <CyberJacob> somebody ping me?
[09:01] <CyberJacob> or just a spammer?
[09:03] <EriC^^> CyberJacob: /lastlog CyberJacob
[09:14] <sveinse> I'm running 16.04 and gnome shell and the middle button does not paste in terminal (it only inserts one character). What could be wrong?
[09:19] <sveinse> That is, it's only related to the terminal. Marking a text does not automatically copy it.
[09:28] <zamba> does the inode count also include network mounted filesystems?
[09:30] <geirha> in what context?
[09:36] <angel-swe> Hi. There is an Email icon top right of my ubuntu and Phone Calls and SMS in it.. I don't use it. Possible to remove it from there?
[09:38] <B105PH3RE> angel-swe: remove the associated gmail account from your pidgin
[09:39] <B105PH3RE> if you want to remove the mail icon all together then you have to modify you indicator panel
[09:39] <angel-swe> can I remove the pidgin totally? B105PH3RE
[09:39] <B105PH3RE> angel-swe: you could but it may break the indicator
[09:40] <angel-swe> B105PH3RE, what indicator?
[09:40] <B105PH3RE> the system tray panel/indicator
[09:45] <angel-swe> B105PH3RE,  I don't think I have pidgin installed either
[09:45] <B105PH3RE> anyone know how to make your system reboot after three failed logins attempts via console, lightdm?
[09:45] <B105PH3RE> angel-swe: what gui shell are you using gnome, kde, xfce?
[09:45] <ikevin> B105PH3RE, perhaps fail2ban can do this kind of things
[09:46] <B105PH3RE> what handles logins, could I do a policy change or something
[09:47] <B105PH3RE> ikevin: thanx I will look into that but isn't that more network oriented
[09:48] <angel-swe> B105PH3RE,  How do I get this information?
[09:48] <ikevin> B105PH3RE, it's network oriented, so you can add your own actions
[09:49] <ikevin> B105PH3RE, like adding "reboot" action instead of iptables one
[09:49] <B105PH3RE> angel-swe: whats your release version ubuntu or xubuntu?
[09:50] <aarannn> Hi, I am studying for a test and it says ifconfig can be used to Network interfaces may become active or inactive, The routing table may change, and IP addresses may change. can someone give me an example of changing the routing table using ifconfig ?
[09:52] <ikevin> aarannn, you can't
[09:52] <angel-swe> B105PH3RE, ubuntu 16.10
[09:52] <aarannn> hmm so this test is incorrect?
[09:52] <B105PH3RE> angel-swe: so your using unity/gnome shell
[09:53] <B105PH3RE> aarannn: what I think he/she is asking for is is an example of ifconfig and route table change commands
[09:53] <angel-swe> B105PH3RE, and how to remove that mail icon and phone calls and sms icon from there?
[09:53] <angel-swe> still possible
[09:53] <angel-swe> ?_
[09:53] <B105PH3RE> ex: ifconfig 192.168.1.1 | route add -net 0.0.0.0 gw 192.168.1.254
[09:54] <geirha> s/|/;/
[09:54] <B105PH3RE> angel-swe: do you have any messagers installed or did you add your gmail to unity or anything that?
[09:54] <yeeve> hey chat, I'm trying to chown all .git folders using this but it's not working: `sudo -u www-data find -type d -name .git -writable -exec chown -Rf ${USER}.${USER} {} \;` Am i missing something? Is there a way to debug this? If I print or ls the files everything looks fine, it just won't chown them
[09:54] <geirha> ifconfig is supposedly deprecated though. You're supposed to use ip now a days
[09:54] <aarannn> heres the question http://www.aiotestking.com/comptia/which-of-the-following-may-occur-as-a-consequence-of-using-the-command-ifconfig/
[09:55] <angel-swe> B105PH3RE, polari and hexchat
[09:56] <B105PH3RE> angel-swe: no I mean xmmp messenger likes yahoo messengers not irc
[09:56] <yeeve> The majority of the .git folders are only 1 level deep so bash globbing using **/.git would work for 90% but I'd like to get the find command working
[09:57] <angel-swe> B105PH3RE, No I don't
[09:57] <B105PH3RE> aarannn: A,C,E are all correct
[09:57] <geirha> yeeve: what's the goal?
[09:58] <aarannn> how is E correct ?
[09:58] <yeeve> to have all .git folder which are writeable by www-data to be recursively chown'd to ${USER}.${USER}
[09:58] <yeeve> most of the .git folders aren't served but some are, I'd like to eventually get a few snippets I run to lock down .git, .htaccess files and remove or lock certain .txt files
[09:58] <InvisibleRasta> hello guys, i just installed ubuntu and the only way i can get X to work is by appending modprobe.blacklist=nouveau at kernel setting. is there a way to sort this out? i am using a msi gaming laptop
[09:59] <B105PH3RE> aarannn: if you have example interface eth0 set as 192.168.1.1 and you have a route in your routing table for 192.168.1.1 and you change eth0 to 1.2 you change your routing table
[09:59] <geirha> yeeve: that's what your current command should do. What happens instead? any error messages?
[09:59] <geirha> yeeve: Ah wait, only root is allowed to chown
[09:59] <yeeve> geirha, no errors and the folder and all it's content are still owned as ${USER}.www-data
[09:59] <k1l_> InvisibleRasta: did you install the nvidia driver in the system settings?
[09:59] <aarannn> oooo so it changes as a result of using ifconfig rather than using ifconfig to change it directly
[09:59] <geirha> yeeve: right, because you told chown to not output errors with the -f
[09:59] <yeeve> geirha, does that mean it won't work or I need a sudo prefixing the --exec chown?
[09:59] <B105PH3RE> aarannn: of if you down the eth0 interface your loose the 192.168.1.1 routing related entrys
[10:00] <yeeve> geirha, oh shit that's just my bad habit xD
[10:00] <B105PH3RE> aarannn: yes correct on your last
[10:00] <InvisibleRasta> k1l_, no i did not, do i have to uninstall or set something up?
[10:00] <aarannn> Ok I got it now thanks
[10:00] <B105PH3RE> np
[10:00] <k1l_> InvisibleRasta: no. go to systemsettings > software & updates and the install the nvidia driver there
[10:00] <B105PH3RE> angel-swe: you can edit your panel and remove the indicator for messenger if you don't want to see it but be carefull
[10:01] <InvisibleRasta> k1l_, do i have to keep nouveau blacklisted?
[10:01] <yeeve> geirha, I think that means I need to log in as root to do most of this then right?
[10:01] <k1l_> InvisibleRasta: you should not touch anything with nouveau manually
[10:01] <B105PH3RE> you would lose email notifications I believe as well angel-swe
[10:01] <yeeve> if I do -exec sudo chown ... then it prompts for www-data pass which isn't going to work
[10:01] <B105PH3RE> yeeve: if your doing this through apache you need to use sudo for those commands to work
[10:01] <InvisibleRasta> k1l_, so after inlstall of nvidia i remove blacklistnouveau?
[10:02] <k1l_> InvisibleRasta: after nvidia is installed you should not set the manual kernel settings there
[10:03] <yeeve> geirha, if I log in as root this works `find -type d -group www-data -name .git -exec chown -R ${USER}.${USER} {} \;`
[10:04] <yeeve> thanks for your time geirha :thumbs-up: and B105PH3RE thanks for the input :)
[10:04] <B105PH3RE> np
[10:11] <geirha> yeeve: could use -user www-data as filter too
[10:15] <geirha> yeeve: and you probably want chmod g+s on them too
[10:17] <yeeve> geirha, I always get confused about the extra bits, does g+s mean that any sub dirs/file which are created inherit ownership?
[10:19] <geirha> yeeve: yes, new files will get the gid of the group (with g+s) instead of the primary group of the user
[10:19] <geirha> though, doesn't help for the ownership
[10:20] <yeeve> Ah ok that should be enough though :)
[10:20] <geirha> but as long as you avoid running git clone/pull as www-data, you should fine
[10:21] <geirha> yeeve: Also, in case you're unaware, git supports having the working tree and the git-dir separate. The .git dir doesn't have to be inside the work-tree
[10:21] <yeeve> geirha, that's the plan, I want secure permissions but with enough flexibility to run my tools as my main user
[10:22] <yeeve> geirha, I wasn't aware so I'll look it up to see if it'll help out with this (if I can move them in a nice, easy and clean way I'm up for that)
[10:22] <geirha> --git-dir is the keyword to look for
[10:23] <yeeve> geirha, I think this will work perfectly for me :)  http://stackoverflow.com/a/17913726 the gitdir: section seems to be exactly what I need
[10:25] <geirha> ah, that might be even easier
[10:26] <rizmut> I have a problem when trying to install a ISO created by PinguyBuilder
[10:27] <rizmut> anyone here familiar with Ubuntu remastering?
[10:43] <Bamboo> Hello
[10:43] <B105PH3RE> hi
[10:50] <Bamboo> 你好
[10:50] <k1l_> Bamboo: this channel is english only. for chinese you can join #ubuntu-cn
[10:51] <Bamboo> 0.0
[11:01] <vlt> Hello. What do I need to install do get also Thunderbird's Lightning module in my local language?
[11:02] <vlt> Thunderbird is localized but everything in Lightning is English.
[11:07] <k1l_> vlt: the translations from lightning are often a bit behind.
[11:14] <Guest31667> how can i add a script to post run to an existing ubuntu iso
[11:14] <Guest31667> ?
[11:14] <Guest31667> * after installation
[11:17] <Mercury> hi, can i add any script to existing ubuntu ISO which runs post completion of installation of the ISO ?
[11:17] <newie> Hello. Please tell me how to make the Partitions for my Ubuntu 16.04 Install along with Windows 7.
[11:20] <Mercury> newie: Select something else from the list of installer, there you can add partitions to free space manually
[11:20] <newie> Mercury: yes exactly. How to make partitions from now? Two are already for my Windows.
[11:21] <newie> Mercury: I read few sites they all suggest different things.
[11:21] <Mercury> newie: select + button on the left and then you can choose which partition you want to create
[11:21] <EriC^^> newie: did you shrink the windows partition from windows?
[11:22] <EriC^^> !customlivecd | Mercury
[11:22] <newie> EriC^^: Yes i already created a free space. Now i got two partitions for Windows and one Big Free Space which i intend to use for Ubuntu.
[11:23] <EriC^^> newie: ok, great, let the installer do its thing, press back, then press on install alongside windows
[11:23] <newie> Mercury: i mean how much i need to give for swap, for root, for etc etc
[11:23] <OerHeks> uck is discontinued
[11:24] <newie> EriC^^: Alongside windows............................................
[11:24] <EriC^^> newie: yes, what about it?
[11:24] <Mercury> ubottu: I already saw these links, i just need to add a script to execute after installation of bootloder completes during the default ubuntu installation, just after everything is complete
[11:24] <OerHeks> newie, let ubuntu calculate that, it has an option to use the free space
[11:24] <OerHeks> !partitioning
[11:25] <OerHeks> or go wild on the wiki
[11:25] <EriC^^> Mercury: the links dont say how to add stuff?
[11:25] <newie> EriC^^: OerHeks : Ok i will give it a go. It will not cause any problem to my windows ? Will it do other stuff like GRUB on it's own??
[11:26] <EriC^^> newie: yes sure
[11:26] <Mercury> newie: that depends on your choice, i usually give 250MB for boot(/boot), size of your RAM = SWAP and remaining to root (/)
[11:26] <EriC^^> newie: grub will get installed and windows' bootloader will disappear
[11:26] <newie> EriC^^: thanks.. :-)
[11:27] <EriC^^> newie: no problem ;)
[11:28] <newie> Mercury: Thanks !!!!!!!! :-)
[11:29] <EriC^^> newie: if you do partition /boot isn't needed really, if you want one 500mb would be a little better
[11:30] <Mercury> newie: make sure you install your bootloader on your drive and not on partition (/dev/sda and not /dev/sda1) so as to tell windows to be included in grub
[11:30] <newie> EriC^^: But that will be possible only if i choose 'something else' ???
[11:31] <Mercury> Eric^^: nopes, it says about customisation of OS which i have already done including packages,cronjobs,everything. Now i want to add a script that runs at user's 1st login or after completion of installtion
[11:31] <Mercury> anyone 1
[11:32] <Mercury> newie: without using something else, default installer creates LVM for installation
[11:32] <Mercury> *uses
[11:32] <newie> Mercury: thanks
[11:37] <Mercury> Eric^^ any suggestions for my case ?
[11:39] <mach20x> Good morning for all those who it is morning for
[11:41] <mach20x> 4.4.0-62-generic works for my system but 63 and 64 freeze after login (mouse freezes)
[11:42] <mach20x> nothing on the desktop loads nor does the GUI
[11:44] <geirha> sounds like a graphics driver problem
[11:45] <mach20x> I just downloaded and installed some updates to that effect just now, so I will try to see if it works and report back
[11:48] <sorinello_> Hello. Does Ubuntu come with dnsmasq out of the box ?
[11:48] <ppf> sorinello_: yes
[11:48] <sorinello_> ppf, dunb question: why ? I don't see it used
[11:48] <sorinello_> *dumb
[11:49] <ppf> it's used e.g. by network-manager
[11:50] <sorinello_> ppf, I am using DHCP to setup my interface, but I don't see no dnsmasq in the background running
[11:50] <mach20x> no dice, I just updated some graphics related components, but it is still freezing
[11:50] <k1l_> mach20x: does the guest account work?
[11:51] <ppf> sorinello_: are you using network-manager?
[11:51] <mach20x> I can try that, give me a moment
[11:51] <sorinello_> ppf, yes
[11:51] <ppf> sorinello_: pgrep -a -f dnsmasq
[11:51] <sorinello_> ppf, nothing. (I use Xubuntu ,not Ubuntu)
[11:54] <ppf> sorinello_: which version?
[11:54] <tatertots> sorinello_: what are you trying to accomplish specifically? if you are unsure or not at liberty to say https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dnsmasq and i'm sure there's plenty of documentation available elsewhere also
[11:56] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:01] <mach20x> Guest user loads up fine, mind you it won't connect to wifi
[12:03] <Mercury_> anyone can i add any script to existing ubuntu ISO which runs post completion of installation of the ISO ?
[12:04] <mach20x> any inklings on what I need to edit in the login items to make sure it runs right?
[12:06] <k1l_> mach20x: were you here yesterday already?
[12:07] <akik_> Mercury_: try cubic. it seems to be for that job: http://askubuntu.com/a/741770
[12:07] <theparadoxer02> i am not able to open postgresql
[12:07] <theparadoxer02> here is the paste
[12:07] <theparadoxer02> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24089665/
[12:07] <theparadoxer02> someone help !
[12:08] <k1l_> mach20x: when on lightdm, change to ctrl+alt+f1 and login to your user. then run "mv .config .config_backup" then change back to ctrl+alt+f7 and login on the lightdm again and see if that worked.
[12:09] <sorinello_> ppf, latest version of Xubuntu. tatertots the link you gave me does not fulfill my curiosity. I am curious why dnsmasq is included in the OOB Ubuntu if it it not used
[12:11] <Speiros> Hey all:)
[12:11] <mach20x> ok I will check that
[12:13] <ppf> sorinello_: in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[12:13] <ppf> what's it say about dns?
[12:14] <k1l_> sorinello_: because network-manager needs it to offer some options?
[12:14] <sorinello_> ppf, #dns=dnsmasq
[12:14] <ppf> maybe dnsmasq isn't the default on xubuntu, but nm offers to use it
[12:14] <sorinello_> k1l_, I see, so only the DNS part is used OOB in Ubuntu
[12:15] <sorinello_> because of dhcp I knew that dhcpd was taking care of business
[12:15] <k1l_> sorinello_: or when you set other connection types in network manager.
[12:16] <sorinello_> k1l_, ppf thanks for the info ! andsorry for the odd question :)
[12:16] <theparadoxer02> anyone is looking into my error ?
[12:17] <ppf> theparadoxer02: what's the answer to the question the error message is asking?
[12:17] <theparadoxer02> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24089665/
[12:18] <backbox> ls
[12:18] <backbox> pwd
[12:18] <backbox> hi
[12:19] <Speiros> theparadoxer02 Do you know if it is running on that server, or not sure, or is the answer no?
[12:19] <k1l_> backbox: this is the ubuntu irc channel. backbox is not ubuntu and not supported here
[12:19] <backbox> no
[12:20] <theparadoxer02> Speiros, when i am starting and restarting the server , it is done normally
[12:20] <theparadoxer02> also the server is running properly
[12:20] <ppf> theparadoxer02: file /var/run/postgresql/.s.PGSQL.5433
[12:20] <Speiros> theparadoxer02 Is that error message question though, is it a yes/no/not sure?
[12:21] <backbox> can smone help me to learn english
[12:21] <Speiros> Yeah, is that one, that ppf mentioned the correct place?  theparadoxer02
[12:21] <Speiros> backbox Try ##british.  It is a help room for practicing English:)
[12:21] <theparadoxer02> Speiros, not sure!
[12:22] <Speiros> Ok.:)  Thanks theparadoxer02
[12:22] <k1l_> backbox: join ##english
[12:23] <theparadoxer02> ppf ,Speiros, it showed no file or directory!
[12:23] <ppf> theparadoxer02: systemctl status postgresql
[12:23] <ppf> theparadoxer02: are you on xenial or later?
[12:25] <theparadoxer02> ppf, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24089735/
[12:25] <theparadoxer02> here it si
[12:26] <theparadoxer02> ppf, i am currenly on updated version, how do i check whether it is xenial ?
[12:27] <Speiros> theparadoxer02 Which year is it?  Is it say 16.4, or 16.10, etc?
[12:28] <Speiros> 16.04...(sorry Ben64:D)
[12:28] <ppf> theparadoxer02: cat /etc/*-release
[12:28] <k1l_> lsb_release -sd
[12:28] <theparadoxer02> i am on 16.04 LTS
[12:29] <OerHeks> his error looks like  systemd >  http://askubuntu.com/questions/810008/after-upgrade-14-04-to-16-04-1-postgresql-server-does-not-start/810009
[12:31] <brit411_> hi , where I can get new android software for  samsung s6 edge plus ?
[12:31] <k1l_> brit411_: ask samsung or android. this is not related to ubuntu
[12:32] <brit411_> Thank you
[12:33] <ppf> OerHeks: without more info impossible to tell
[12:36] <mach20x> ok, so I tried to login using ctrl+alt+f1 but it locked up all the same
[12:36] <mach20x> this time it gave me a wall of text to decypher
[12:38] <mach20x> one of the messages contained the words: dhclient tainted
[12:38] <BluesKaj> mach20x, did you try ctl+alt+F2
[12:39] <mach20x> another was end:   kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
[12:40] <mach20x> Haven't tried f2
[12:40] <theparadoxer02> didn't help
[12:40] <mahakal> Guys,while installing grub on an sdcard i am getting an    error "can not find EFI directory"/
[12:40] <theparadoxer02> OerHeks, did not helped!
[12:41] <mach20x> I'll try again with f2 instead
[12:43] <Sandalot> How hard is it to make a mirror for the ubuntu 16.04 package repo? Long story short I started a course this week and we don't have access to the internet and everyone needs their packages
[12:44] <mahakal> Guys someone here please help me ....
[12:47] <mach20x> f2 didn't seem to do anything for me
[12:47] <mach20x> still unable to load
[12:49] <mach20x> is there some way to run the mv .config .config_backup command in 4.4.0-62-generic or would that just mess with the .config on this init ramdisk?
[12:53] <mach20x> Thanks for all help rendered, and any help is always appreciated
[12:54] <hateball> !info apt-mirror
[12:54] <hateball> Sandalot: ^
[12:54] <Speiros> Hi hateball
[12:55] <angel-swe> Hi. There is an Email icon top right of my ubuntu and Phone Calls and SMS in it.. I don't use it. Possible to remove it from there?
[12:55] <hateball> Speiros: hello
[12:55] <brunch875> angel-swe: it's not just for emails, but for more notifications
[12:55] <JuJUBee> Good morning.  I am a teacher and want a program that will allow me to draw on top of any screen but be able to switch back and forth between drawing and using the mouse
[12:57] <angel-swe> brunch875,  It has "Phone Calls" and "SMS" as submenu. I have no defined phone number up there or email.. what program uses it?
[12:57] <hateball> JuJUBee: There used to be such a desktop effect, but I cant recall its name or if it is still in Unity (I dont use it)
[12:57] <hateball> JuJUBee: So you could hold say ctrl+alt and trace your mouse movement
[12:58] <brunch875> angel-swe: I have no idea. Are you using the newer unity or the default one?
[12:58] <brunch875> perhaps you have your phone paired via bluetooth?
[12:59] <Jakey3> my ubuntu installation, 16.04 is very very slow. 30seconds to load up FF and chrome is also slow to. Computer is Latitude E6420 with Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2520M CPU @ 2.50GHz with memory 16gb
[12:59] <Jakey3> any ideas?
[13:00] <mach20x> Looks like there is some work going on here http://askubuntu.com/questions/886374/ubuntu-16-04-kernel-4-4-0-64-generic-freezes-after-login-screen
[13:00] <Jakey3> new install aswell
[13:00] <JuJUBee> hateball, something to do with compiz plugin iirc
[13:00] <Jakey3> tested memory and harddrive is Samsung ssd 850
[13:00] <Jakey3> no obvious error there
[13:01] <elias_a> Jakey3: Was there another OS before? Did that work ok?
[13:02] <Jakey3> elias_a, yes there was lubuntu was super fast then for some reason, could be when i went to 16.04 slowed right down, now on stock ubuntu 16.04 and its so slow its barely useable
[13:02] <brunch875> lubuntu was built to be lightweight
[13:02] <hateball> Jakey3: Is bootup slow as well, or just when you are in X?
[13:02] <Sandalot> Thanks hateball
[13:03] <JuJUBee> Jakey3, have you tried xubuntu?
[13:03] <brunch875>  it could be that unity (defai
[13:03] <brunch875> (default DE) is slow on that computer
[13:03] <hateball> There's no reason such a machine should need a different DE to be usable... but perhaps it is not using a proper GPU driver
[13:04] <Jakey3> hateball, bootup seems 'normal' more when I enter into the desktop environment, however i have noticed when I do sudo apt-get update / upgrade its slower then what i remember
[13:04] <Jakey3> JuJUBee, nope
[13:04] <elias_a> Jakey3: I'm also betting on graphics driver prob.
[13:04] <hateball> Jakey3: What GPU/driver are you using?
[13:04] <brunch875> I remember when I installed ubuntu on my father's computer, it would be barely usable. The animations were super-slow. Then I installed lubuntu on it and it became blazing fast
[13:04] <JuJUBee> Works well on lower resources...  Might help
[13:05] <hateball> If Firefox tries to use hw accel and you have a broken driver, then things are going to be unfun. As well as for all of Unity
[13:05] <hateball> Jakey3: "lspci -k", pastebin the VGA section
[13:05] <opppUser> hi
[13:06] <mahakal> guys i made a bootable usb with grub2 actuallly its an sdcard..but while booting this option is not shown by CMOS when interrupting the boot process with F12..plz help
[13:07] <Jakey3> hateball, is this what your looking for https://paste.ubuntu.com/24089856/
[13:08] <hateball> Jakey3: yea. No nvidia GPU in the machine?
[13:09] <Jakey3> nope
[13:09] <hateball> Jakey3: I'm using a similar CPU myself with no issues running KDE Plasma... so hmmm
[13:09] <mtottenh> Hi, I seem to have a problem where autotools seems to create a makefile using --push-state/--pop-state in the linker args, but my linker doesn't seem to recognize those as valid options. Any idea how I can fix this?
[13:09] <hateball> Jakey3: any weird errors if you run "dmesg" ?
[13:09] <elias_a> Jakey3: I've had the same problem and it was the graphics driver.
[13:10] <elias_a> Jakey3: Have you updated after installation?
[13:10] <Jakey3> elias_a, yep
[13:10] <Jakey3> hateball, will have a look
[13:11] <hateball> Jakey3: What you *can* do is use the HWE to get newer mesa and kernel
[13:11] <hateball> !hwe
[13:11] <hateball> Jakey3: in short: sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04
[13:12] <Jakey3> thanks, will give a try.
[13:12] <Jakey3> would be interesting to see if ubuntu 14.04 has the same issue
[13:14] <Jakey3> hateball, nothing crazy in dmesg
[13:15] <angel-swe> Hi. There is an Email icon top right of my ubuntu and Phone Calls and SMS in it.. I don't use it. Possible to remove it from there?
[13:15] <Jakey3> hateball, elias_a wierd in the ubuntu gui setting has graphics as Intel® Sandybridge Mobile
[13:16] <hateball> Jakey3: Why is that weird?
[13:17] <Jakey3> hateball, was wondering if that corresponds to VGA compatible controller
[13:18] <hateball> Jakey3: Yes, Sandy Bridge is intels name for that generation cpu
[13:19] <Jakey3> hateball, more the fact is said mobile
[13:19] <hateball> Jakey3: You're on a laptop are you not?
[13:19] <Jakey3> true
[13:20] <hateball> Jakey3: thats what the M in i5-2520M stands for. 2XXX is the generation
[13:21] <macchen> hello wprld~~
[13:21] <Jakey3> hateball, ah ok, thanks
[13:23] <craptalk> why do i have to disable firewall-cmd to make NFS?]\
[13:23] <craptalk> NFS?
[13:24] <aadi> Hi all
[13:24] <craptalk> i tried to add nfs service on both client and server but it is not running at all
[13:24] <craptalk> it works after i disabled firewalld.service
[13:24] <aadi> Can anyone tell me how can i find the source code of my gnome calculator?
[13:24] <akik_> craptalk: nfs server needs an export in /etc/exports
[13:25] <hateball> !source | aadi
[13:27] <aadi> Thanks ubottu, also is there a way to find a package name?
[13:28] <akik_> aadi: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[13:29] <hateball> aadi: or apt search whatever
[13:29] <hateball> !info gnome-calculator
[13:29] <cfoch-al1> hi
[13:29] <cfoch-al1> does someone here use Skype Alpha For Linux?
[13:30] <aadi> Thanks hateball, akik_ , ubottu :)
[13:30] <cfoch-al1> I don't know where to ask about it :)
[13:30] <cfoch-al1> aadi: I think ubottu is bot
[13:31] <aadi> cfoch-al1, I am kinda new :"(
[13:32] <aadi> My machine is saying - You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
[13:32] <aadi>  So, what URI is to be added?
[13:39] <meandrain> Hi. Any idea how to list files installed by a package ?
[13:40] <meandrain> I've tried this: https://dpaste.de/9xwu
[13:41] <meandrain> Ok, so I had a typo, but any idea how to list files using apt ? (and not dpkg) ?
[13:45] <plympton> hello
[13:52] <elias_a> aadi: Did you install skype using software center?
[13:54] <bagus> how to install skype?
[13:55] <elias_a> bagus: Enable partner repository in software sources. Then you may install it using software center or in terminal: sudo apt-get install skype
[13:56] <bagus> elias_a: thxs. going to try
[13:58] <aadi> elias_a, nope, btw why?
[14:02] <elias_a> aadi: Because it is the easiest way.
[14:03] <elias_a> How did you install skype?
[14:06] <elias_a> Skype 4.3.0.37 is available in the partner repository. I just installed it.
[14:07] <akik_> elias_a: there's a newer skype version available but it's an alpha version
[14:12] <elias_a> akik_: Well, I would not use it as it is alpha.
[14:15] <Southern_Gentlem> elias_a, if noone tests the alpha how is it going to become beta and then final?
[14:15] <Southern_Gentlem> no testers they push and then everyone screams
[14:20] <elias_a> Southern_Gentlem: I did not say no one should test it. I am saying I would not use it since it is proprietary and I rather test and support development of FLOSS.
[14:20] <pragma1> Hello folks, running Ubuntu 16.10 here on a Dell XPS 15 9560. Having issues connecting my bluethooth mouse. Bluetooth is on, but searching for devices yields nothing. I checked rfkill list, looks good. Any thoughts?
[14:21] <akik_> elias_a: the older version of skype is proprietary too
[14:23] <elias_a> akik: Yes. I have not supported their development at alpha stage before.
[14:23] <elias_a> akik: And especially after MS bought Skype I won't have the slightest compassion. :)
[14:23] <ikonia> more fool you then
[14:25] <elias_a> Oh, come on. They can afford the testing if they just want to.
[14:25] <ikonia> they are doing testing
[14:25] <ikonia> it's called a public test
[14:25] <ikonia> along side private testing
[14:25] <ikonia> and if you think they are not doing private testing, again, more fool you
[14:26] <elias_a> The real question is will the new version ever be production version or even beta. My guess is: no.
[14:26] <ikonia> bad guess then
[14:26] <elias_a> ikonia: Seen it before. :)
[14:26] <ikonia> with what microsoft product
[14:27] <elias_a> ikonia: Silverlight linux support ring a bell?
[14:27] <angel-swe> How can I install GIMP on my UBUNTU 16.10?
[14:27] <ikonia> elias_a: it never got an official linux port
[14:27] <ikonia> angel-swe: open the package manager, search for gimp, click install
[14:27] <elias_a> ikonia: But it was planned.
[14:28] <ikonia> elias_a: no, as microsoft retired silverloight,
[14:29] <elias_a> ikonia: That is not exactly what I've been told but all the same.
[14:29] <ikonia> elias_a: no "no" then
[14:29] <k1l_> angel-swe: sudo apt install gimp
[14:30] <ikonia> elias_a: I'd be pretty confident the Skype Linux port will get an official release some point in the near future
[14:30] <elias_a> ikonia: I have problems in understanding you.
[14:30] <elias_a> ikonia: Well - let's get back to the issue when it happens. ;-)
[14:33] <angel-swe> ikonia, no result when you do it
[14:34] <angel-swe> sudo apt install gimp seems to be working
[14:38] <Sweg> hallo
[14:38] <Sweg> fagfeavfea
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[14:38] <john_rambo> I am trying to convert a video.... I am using Avidemux.....FOr Video I am using "Copy" and for Audio I have selected MP3.....The encoding process completes without any error but WHen I play the output file there is no audio file
[14:38] <akik> elias_a: i don't really know which is worse, a skype client from 2012 or that alpha version :P
[14:39] <dannyLopez> I try to change the $JAVA_HOME to /opt/jdk/jdk1.8.0_121/ but echo $JAVA_HOME don show me nothing
[14:39] <EriC^^> dannyLopez: where did you change it?
[14:40] <dannyLopez> Editing /etc/profile and add 5 lines
[14:40] <EriC^^> dannyLopez: did you log out and back in?
[14:41] <dannyLopez> Logout to all system?
[14:41] <EriC^^> dannyLopez: yes logout as the user and back in
[14:41] <dannyLopez> Oh, no, this works for me http://pastebin.com/i30jRBCi
[14:41] <ace_me> some security guy configured server S2 and S1 so that I cann connect to S! through SSH from my IP and then from S! I can ssh to S2 where is a mysql I want to manage. Now I ask if I can connect for example workbench or similar tool directly to mysql ?
[14:42] <claudio_> Hello everboy
[14:42] <ace_me> is there any way to cascade 2 ssh tunnels ?
[14:42] <elias_a> akik: Well, that is true. But if a user needs to ask what he/she has to enter into some configuration settings I'd say that user shouldn't use alpha stage sw. :)
[14:42] <claudio_> anybody may help-me
[14:42] <craigbass76> Anyone use win-sshfs? I went to a newer ubuntu a few days ago, and can no longer mount up the directory. I'm guessing because the ssh key is different, but win-sshfs isn't popping up a dialog about it, just crapping out. I know this is more of a windows question, but does anyone know where I can wipe the key I have stored on the Windows box? I've looked in the registry, C:\Users\me\appdata C:\Program Files*  Nada
[14:42] <ace_me> anybody may help you
[14:42] <EriC^^> dannyLopez: yes bash -l makes a login shell
[14:43] <EriC^^> dannyLopez: if you dont want to logout you can use it until the next time you logout then it'll work without it
[14:43] <dannyLopez> Works to all system and users?
[14:43] <EriC^^> yes
[14:43] <claudio_> i installed de unbuntu on my macbook pro ...
[14:44] <dannyLopez> Oh, EriC^^ thank you very much
[14:44] <claudio_> but the kernel not recongized all cpus...
[14:44] <EriC^^> dannyLopez: no problem
[14:46] <ace_me> can I get in one command a connection to mysql from local->server1->server2->Mysql-server2 ?
[14:46] <ace_me> can I get in one command a connection to mysql from local -> ssh server1 -> ssh server2 -> Mysql-server2 ?
[14:47] <SchrodingersScat> local -> login to ssh1 -> login to ssh2 -> run command
[14:47] <ace_me> in one command ?
[14:47] <SchrodingersScat> #MovingGoalposts
[14:47] <SchrodingersScat> oh, you did say that, yeah probably
[14:47] <SchrodingersScat> chain it
[14:47] <ace_me> ssh root@IP1 < ssh root@IP2 ?
[14:48] <craigbass76> ace_me: I was able to, in PHP, hit two databases. I don't remember how but the server is sitting in a box here, so I can check. Or are you trying from bash?
[14:48] <ace_me> how to chain it ?
[14:48] <ace_me> both would help me
[14:48] <ace_me> both versions *
[14:48] <ace_me> please check craigbass76
 can I get in one command a connection to mysql from local -> ssh server1 -> ssh server2 -> Mysql-server2 ? <== do a ssh tunnel :)
[14:49] <craigbass76> ace_me: It will be a while. The box is full of computers. I don't know which one and they all look the same. Have to wait until lunch break. If ypou want to PM your email, I can send you my php scripts when I get my hands on them
[14:50] <kalwnau> t
[14:50] <lucas__> Hello everyone
[14:50] <ducasse> ace_me: look up "ssh bastion host"
[14:51] <ace_me> thx ducasse
[14:52] <emachines_> what
[15:00] <ace_me> ducasse what file is referred here http://blog.scottlowe.org/2015/11/21/using-ssh-bastion-host/ "The appropriate SSH configuration... " ?>
[15:01] <ducasse> ace_me: ~/.ssh/config, typically
[15:01] <ace_me> $HOME/.ssh/config
[15:01] <ace_me> yes
[15:01] <ace_me> ok I will try
[15:06] <rhqq> hi there. is there any way to setup a virtual display without any monitor connected?
[15:09] <ducasse> rhqq: x.org has something called 'virtual outputs', but i've never used them.
[15:09] <rhqq> basically my use case is a desktop hidden in the closet acting as steam machine with streaming.. and i need a display in order to.. display games that get streamed :/
[15:10] <ducasse> rhqq: check out xvfb
[15:11] <rhqq> ducasse: thanks, looking into it
[15:14] <ngomes>  anyone knows how to change splash screen of the bios ?
[15:14] <ducasse> ngomes: ask in ##hardware
[15:15] <ngomes> ok thanks
[15:16] <nicomachus> well, do you mean BIOS or grub?
[15:37] <kasad> hello, can anyone tell me where does 16.04 mount windows shares mounted from nautilus
[15:37] <kasad> so I can access them from command line
[15:38] <k1l_> kasad: if you used your filebrowser to mount them (that is gvfs) its most likely under /media/username/
[15:38] <w9qbj> from the command line try 'df' to see what's mounted where, and how much space is used/available
[15:38] <Southern_Gentlem> the mount command should tell you but i dont think you can from the CLI (fuse)
[15:38] <kasad> thanks, lemme check (I used file browser yes, and mounted) dunno what is gvfs
[15:40] <kasad> I got it as smb://foo/bar in nautilus, but I wanna access it from cmdline, do I have to mount it from command line cifs or smb? it's open share (NAS) which I want to backup to remote host (prefferably via rsync, and need to figure out how to make it run only during night)
[15:43] <kasad> it's not under /media/username, df doesn't show it
[15:44] <Southern_Gentlem> kasad,  try /run/user/youruserid/gvfs
[15:46] <Southern_Gentlem> there should be another subdirectory which is the mount
[15:46] <kasad> Southern_Gentlem: that's it, thank a bunch! <3
[15:46] <ace_me> ducasse ssh -t root@ip1 ssh -t root@IP2 -L 3306:127.0.0.1:3306 -N but I get bind: Address already in use
[15:46] <kasad> I tried find but it said access denied (I forgot i was root, not the user which I mounted as)
[15:46] <Southern_Gentlem> kasad,  i had actaully been neding to figure that out myself just never sat down to do it
[15:47] <kasad> :)
[15:47] <kasad> kinda same, I wanted to avoid mounting it from cmdline
[15:47] <Katronix> Greetings all! I'm helping running a server with 16.04.2 and php 7.0.15. I have mysql installed but I seem to be missing something that is needed for php and mysql to talk to each other. Any suggestions on how to find out what is missing? or is it more that my php is to new?
[15:48] <kasad> thanks again Southern_Gentlem
[15:50] <kierqueen> when I download tor, I get-- SIGNATURE VERIFICATION FAILED You might be under attack, or there might just be a networking problem. Click Start try the download again. but I tried it 4 times, and get that error?
[15:53] <wlp1s1> kierqueen: how do you download tor?
[15:53] <Katronix> Does my question make sense? or do I need to provide more information?
[15:54] <k1l_> !lamp | Katronix
[15:54] <k1l_> Katronix: did you a2enmod php? did you restart apache afterwards?
[15:55] <k1l_> Katronix: did you install the php and mysql moduls/packages
[15:55] <Katronix> k1l_ no I didn't I did install the lamp meta package thought that did everything, let me try that
[15:55] <wlp1s1> kasad: /run/user/<uid>/gvfs/<proto>:host=<host>,user=<user>
[15:56] <wlp1s1> aka /run/user/1000/gvfs/smb:host=10.0.5.1,user=root
[15:56] <wlp1s1> kasad: is that what you wanted?
[15:59] <Katronix> k1l_ does it matter which directory a2enmod is ran from? I told it to a2enmod php from /root and it came back it didn't have a php module
[15:59] <kasad> wlp1s1: I found it under /run/user/uid/gfvs/smbbmount-hostname-sharename
[16:00] <wlp1s1> oh ok
[16:00] <k1l_> Katronix: yes it doesnt matter.
[16:00] <kasad> I just typed the smbmount-hostname-sharename aproximately
[16:01] <k1l_> Katronix: what command did you use? and what was the output?
[16:01] <kasad> I'm connected remotely and someone is working there atm and just minimized my screen, didn't had chance to setup router to fwd port 22 yet, so I am using teamviewer atm
[16:01] <kierqueen> when I download tor, I get-- SIGNATURE VERIFICATION FAILED You might be under attack, or there might just be a networking problem. Click Start try the download again. but I tried it 4 times, and get that error?
[16:02] <kierqueen> wlp1s1: using the dash board, tor
[16:02] <kierqueen> apt-get install torbrowser , after installing that on my 32 bit, I just run it, and it downloads for me
[16:03] <k1l_> kierqueen: using any vpn or proxy?
[16:03] <kierqueen> no
[16:03] <kierqueen> sorry apt-get install torbrowser-launcher
[16:03] <k1l_> or company network? that are transparent proxies who ruin ssl
[16:04] <kierqueen> then that launcher downloads it for me, and fails the signature verification, and says that I am under attack, nad yeah my network is just fine
[16:04] <Katronix> k1l_ I used a2enmod php and it replied back it didn't have a php module
[16:04] <kierqueen> I run home network
[16:04] <k1l_> Katronix: sudo apt install libapache2-mod-php
[16:05] <Katronix> k1l_ already the newest version
[16:05] <paulo23> hi, please someone advise me, i just reinstalled ubuntu 12.04, i need it to be 12.04 not 14 or 16, my system cant handle the new versions, i have unchecked in update manager all the updates versions, will this affect not only my ubuntu version but all the stuff like firefox skype etc ?
[16:05] <littlegirl> Hey there, is anybody in here good with networking commands?
[16:06] <littlegirl> I'm updating my Static IP page and wrote a rather lengthy command for getting my private network class and was hoping maybe one of you would know of a less lengthy and more elegant one.
[16:06] <kierqueen> wlp1s1: are you still there , sorry for the late reply, but I hope now you'll tell me
[16:06] <littlegirl> The one I wrote: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24090930/
[16:06] <wlp1s1> kierqueen: hi
[16:06] <kierqueen> hi:)
[16:06] <bolovanos> hithere
[16:06] <wlp1s1> ok so you said apt throws that error?
[16:06] <k1l_> kierqueen: try "gpg --homedir "$HOME/.local/share/torbrowser/gnupg_homedir/" --refresh-keys --keyserver pgp.mit.edu"
[16:07] <wlp1s1> if it does blame 1) firewalls, 2) your ISP, 3) your country
[16:07] <dbrass> paulo23, can you run another flavour of Ubuntu instead of 12.04?
[16:07] <wlp1s1> kierqueen: does apt throw that error?
[16:07] <bolovanos> I have txt file, by doing "cat file.txt | grep xyz | less" i will get only subset of "less -> / -> xy"
[16:08] <paulo23> dbrass yes i can but the system run badly with them, heat problem
[16:08] <bolovanos> how is that possible?
[16:08] <dbrass> paulo23, because 12.04 will be out of support in 2 months
[16:08] <kierqueen> wlp1s1: no I apt-get install torbrowser-launcher package just fine, when I run the launcher and download tor then the problem comes k1l_ ok wait a sec
[16:09] <paulo23> dbrass yes i know but i would love to keep it, is like what i said will affect any 3rd part software ?
[16:09] <k1l_> Katronix: "sudo a2enmod php7.0"
[16:09] <Katronix> k1l_ okay
[16:09] <ducasse> littlegirl: you do know that just because your ip address is 192.168.x.x that does not mean you are on a class c network, right?
[16:10] <dbrass> paulo23, yes, you won't receive updates for firefox and other softwares
[16:10] <paulo23> dbrass i uncheck everything in upgardemanager=>softwares sources=>updates
[16:10] <kierqueen> k1l_: I did but > is what I get and a newline, your comand is wrong
[16:10] <ducasse> littlegirl: what you want to check is the netmask
[16:10] <littlegirl> No, I didn't, ducasse.
[16:10] <Katronix> k1l_ "considering conflict php5 for php7.0: Module php7.0 already enabled"
[16:10] <dbrass> paulo23, you'll be running with the current version of software that you have and will be open to many security vulnerabilities
[16:11] <k1l_> Katronix: restarted apache?
[16:11] <paulo23> dbrass any advise whata to do, i just wanna keep 12.04
[16:11] <kierqueen> ok it's right
[16:11] <ducasse> littlegirl: a class c network has a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0, class b is 255.255.0.0 and class a is 255.0.0.0
[16:12] <Katronix> k1l_ thanks! that did the trick!
[16:12] <dbrass> paulo23, my advice is at tha point not to stay on 12.04. You can either switch to debian stable (Jessie) and run a light desktop environment or update to a newer ubuntu release with a ligh desktop environment
[16:12] <dbrass> paulo23, if you have old hardware debian stable should be fine and safe
[16:13] <littlegirl> Okay, thanks, ducasse. Then I'll rewrite that part of the script, but would still love to find a more elegant way of coding it.
[16:13] <rhqq> ducasse: xvfb is a no-go. it uses software rendered and i can not make it use discrete gpu
[16:13] <dbrass> paulo23, You need to find what is causing to much load on newer versions
[16:14] <k1l_> dbrass: the LUbuntu desktop is targeted at slow and old hardware. but we cant tell you to run old ubuntu releases that dont have support anymore. 12.04 is only supported until april
[16:14] <paulo23> dbrass all new ubu release have no light envirs, too much heat from my lap
[16:15] <ducasse> rhqq: then check out virtual outputs, i imagine that is part of xrandr. i don't know if that will work, but it's the only other idea i have.
[16:15] <dbrass> paulo23, no light environments? Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu mate
[16:15] <dbrass> paulo23, all those are relatiely light DE
[16:15] <rhqq> ducasse: yeah, i tried to setup my own xorg.conf with virtual display, but i never managed xorg to actually pull it :/
[16:15] <pavlos> littlegirl, hostname -I will give you the ip, but if you type ifconfig, you can find more about the network
[16:16] <k1l_> !lubuntu | paulo23
[16:16] <ducasse> littlegirl: ask in #bash, i'm sure someone in there will give you a more elegant solution or at least tell you how to do it :)
[16:16] <dbrass> k1l_, that's why I'm telling him not to stay on 12.04 but to find alternative with newer releases
[16:17] <k1l_> dbrass: yes. lubuntu has presets for zram etc.
[16:17] <paulo23> dbrass can i switch from ubu 14 to lubuntu easily ?
[16:17] <dbrass> paulo23, yo ucan do what you want but know that staying on older releases of Ubuntu that are getting out of support is a terribly bad idea
[16:18] <k1l_> paulo23: you can make your ubuntu to a Lubuntu by installing "lubuntu-desktop"
[16:18] <dbrass> paulo23, from 14.04 you can unstall lubuntu-desktop
[16:18] <paulo23> dbrass im using desktop version for personal use only whats dangerous in it
[16:18] <dbrass> paulo23, remote exploits, spam machine, botnet... the list goes on
[16:19] <ducasse> paulo23: are you connected to the internet? then it's dangerous.
[16:19] <dbrass> paulo23, if your computer is connected to the internet then it's irresponsible to run old unpatched software
[16:19] <paulo23> i see
[16:19] <paulo23> whats the lightest distro to switch easily to from ubu please guys
[16:20] <k1l_> Lubuntu
[16:20] <paulo23> with  command lines ?
[16:20] <paulo23> no need to download burn ?
[16:20] <dbrass> paulo23, also, any remote exploitation of your machine will slow it down and might slow donw your internet speed
 paulo23: you can make your ubuntu to a Lubuntu by installing "lubuntu-desktop"
[16:20] <dbrass> paulo23, try lubuntu 16.04 first
[16:21] <paulo23> dbrass do i need to download burn install ? or just by comand line right from ubuntu
[16:21] <dbrass> updating from 12.04 to 14.04 and then to 16.04 will leave a lot of crust on your system
[16:21] <dbrass> paulo23, I would suggest a clean install
[16:21] <dbrass> paulo23, you can try a live session first
[16:21] <k1l_> paulo23: you can just install Lubuntu the way i told you
[16:21] <k1l_> paulo23: and you can use the online update
[16:22] <dbrass> k1l_, yes but updating could be problematic
[16:22] <dbrass> k1l_, he'll need to remove the ubuntu-desktop package
[16:23] <dbrass> k1l_, otherwise he'll get unity and the kitchen sink installed whie updating
[16:23] <k1l_> dbrass: upgrades are automated tested.
[16:23] <dbrass> k1l_, they are tested from clean systems but I don't know the state of his machine
[16:23] <paulo23> no way to go from 12 to lubuntu directly ?
[16:23] <dbrass> k1l_, does he have unstable PPAs
[16:23] <paulo23> need 14 first ?
[16:24] <k1l_> paulo23: i told you now 3 times.
[16:24] <dbrass> paulo23, you can install the lubuntu-desktop package
[16:24] <dbrass> paulo23, it is a metapackage that will pull all of lubuntu
[16:24] <pavlos> littlegirl, this will give you the mask ...  m=$(ifconfig | awk -F: '/Mask:/ {print $4}' ); echo $m
[16:24] <paulo23> kll installing lubuntu desktop over ?
[16:25] <dbrass> paulo23, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[16:25] <paulo23> i see thanks a lot guys
[16:25] <k1l_> paulo23: if you install the package i named to you 3 times now, you will make your system a lubuntu. you can upgrade before or afterwards. its your choice
[16:25] <paulo23> doing the security updates right now
[16:25] <dbrass> paulo23, reboot and log into lxde and then sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[16:26] <dbrass> paulo23, but I can't comment on the stability of the system after you remove ubuntu-desktop before upgrading. It may break on major upgrades
[16:27] <dbrass> paulo23, gotta go good luck with your upgrade
[16:27] <k1l_> dbrass: should not be an issue. i dont know why you keep telling that.
[16:27] <paulo23> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  lubuntu-desktop : Depends: lubuntu-core but it is not going to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[16:27] <dbrass> k1l_, you have not heard the Leo Laporte story when peoples told him to convert his ubuntu install to xubuntu and to remove ubuntu-desktop
[16:28] <dbrass> paulo23, you need to re-enable the updates
[16:28] <dbrass> k1l_, he then ranted about linux when his install broke on the next upgrade
[16:28] <k1l_> paulo23: what repos do you have enabled?
[16:28] <paulo23> kll new install of 12.04
[16:29] <dbrass> paulo23, yes but you disabled some software repositors in the update manager
[16:29] <paulo23> ok now
[16:29] <dbrass> paulo23, you need to reenable them
[16:29] <k1l_> paulo23: -updates and -security need to be enabled
[16:30] <k1l_> and universe, of course
[16:30] <paulo23> i rechecked them now its loading
[16:30] <dbrass> k1l_, good luck to both of you
[16:30] <paulo23> ty dbrass
[16:31] <paulo23> kll is this lubuntu light and fast ? wont use lot of cpu ? ubu 14 was causing a lot of heat
[16:32] <k1l_> !lubuntu | paulo23
[16:36] <paulo23_> kll lubuntu installed, now apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop ?
[16:37] <k1l_> paulo23_: yes. after that "sudo apt-get autoremove"
[16:37] <paulo23_> kll sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop unity && sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[16:38] <paulo23_> googled a bit
[16:38] <k1l_> yes
[16:40] <nomic> how to disable tool tips on panel on mate desktop
[16:40] <nomic> anyone
[16:45] <paulo23> kll_ hi again , did how i posted last , still have the ubuntu login screen and desktop as before
[16:45] <ducasse> paulo23: choose lxde on the login screen
[16:49] <kierqueen> hey guys
[16:49] <kierqueen> what's the procedure to install tor on uubntu?
[16:49] <paulo23_> kll_ done , now should i upgrade to lubuntu 16 ?
[16:50] <kierqueen> I don't like the /var/apt/sources way
[16:50] <kierqueen> I liek the ppa way, plain and simple
[16:52] <kierqueen> how do I know the current version I am on, I did apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[16:54] <Franco63> hi all .. i'm new  in ubuntu, after 30 years of windows 2 monts ago decided  the  great change. Now  something  strange happends when i  try  to launch ubuntu.  The  sistem require the  password.. that i tape as usual,  and so often  yhe system say that the  password is  wrong , and  reconnaize  it as  corret  only the second time that i  tape... I'm thinking  that someone hacked me ....is  this  possible? and  in case
[16:54] <Franco63> what i have to do? ty for attention-
[16:55] <digbychicken> kierqueen, lsb_release -irc
[16:55] <kierqueen> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/tor-browser && sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install tor-browser, and after that how do iI remove that? What's the procedure to remove any ppa? nad their packages
[16:57] <scottjl> well you would have to remove the packages on your own
[16:58] <scottjl> to remove the ppa, just remove the file from /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:58] <scottjl> or the entry in /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:59] <nicomachus> you could always use ppa-purge
[16:59] <scottjl> or you can add-apt-repository --remove
[16:59] <nicomachus> !info ppa-purge
[17:00] <cryptic0> Does anyone know what the '|' symbol indicates in diff output?
[17:00] <mahakal> id divide your two files for better vies
[17:02] <mahakal> guys i am on a live usb ubuntu distro.if i install it now will it affect the data of my previous OS
[17:03] <mahakal>  current  version is 14.04
[17:04] <jayjo> I'm trying to start a service (systemd unit file) so I can have jupyterhub - an ipython tool - to run a server constantly. I followed these steps https://github.com/jupyterhub/jupyterhub/wiki/Run-jupyterhub-as-a-system-service but when I do sudo service jupyterhub start - i get no error or output whatsoever, but the server is not running. How do I investigate this further?
[17:04] <aviral_> sdcds
[17:05] <scottjl> mahakal: if you tell it to install on your existing partitions it certainly wil.
[17:05] <mahakal> will i lost the apps and MOVIES etc that i installed on 14.04
[17:05] <mahakal> ?
[17:06] <scottjl> if you tell it to overwrite your existing partitons you will lose your data, yes
[17:06] <guest> mahakal: there is an option during installation for which type of installation you can do. Read it carefully.
[17:06] <scottjl> if you make new partitions, and keep your old ones, you can have both installed
[17:06] <guest> mahakal: If it was me, I would back up my entire home directory to an external drive first anyway
[17:07] <mahakal> guest: but copying home directory does not copy the apps that you have collected in your arsenal
[17:07] <noraatepernos> Can anyone suggest a persistent nosql data store that shards easily?  I need a sharded/partitioned kv store that can handle 12k writes per second.  Someone suggested a new trendy one and I forgot the name.  It wasn’t CouchDb.
[17:08] <scottjl> mahakal: you can always just do an upgrade instead of a fresh install
[17:08] <mahakal> scottjl: but you know that "those upgrade " sucks
[17:08] <scottjl> i've upgraded many machines from 14.04lts to 16.04lts without problem
[17:09] <guest> mahakal: correct
[17:09] <guest> mahakal: you can upgrade
[17:09] <scottjl> but it is always good to have a backup anyway
[17:09] <Katronix> If the IP for a site works, but the domain name says the connection was refused is that just apache not knowing about the domain name?
[17:09] <guest> ^
[17:09] <guest> Katronix: no, "connection refused" is a networking thing
[17:09] <guest> Katronix: What do you mean "the IP works" ?
[17:09] <k1l_> mahakal: that is not true. ubuntu has automated testings for upgrades since long time.
[17:09] <guest> Katronix: I see
[17:10] <mahakal> ok Guys ..i think you all are right upgrade is best option
[17:10] <guest> Katronix: If you use this command "host mydomain.com" do you see the IP you expect?
[17:10] <scottjl> mahakal: make a backup just in case!
[17:10] <mahakal> scottjl: yup you are right
[17:10] <Katronix> I see the IP changed, okay I know what to do now thanks!
[17:11] <mahakal> guys there is one more problem..My BIOS is not showing the USB stick ..if you have ever encountered this problem ?
[17:13] <paulo23> kll_ are u there plz
[17:18] <publio> mahakal: It may not support USB booting. Try a CD
[17:20] <cryptic0> Anyone knows what the pipe symbol means in diff output?
[17:21] <mahakal> publio: no it show me once but when i use fdisk to make it a bootable ,After that it is not showing
[17:21] <scottjl> i've never see a | in diff output
[17:21] <scottjl> are you just diff'ing 2 files?
[17:22] <scottjl> are you using a strange version of diff?
[17:22] <scottjl> sure the | isn't actually in one of the files?
[17:22] <cryptic0> scottjl on RHEL
[17:22] <publio> mahakal: If it's now showing in fdisk, it may be dead? I'm not sure.
[17:23] <cryptic0> I think I may have figured it out.  Pipe means lines are dissimilar
[17:23] <mikeymop> nacc: idk if you're online, but I fixed a few dependencies one by one
[17:23] <mikeymop> eventually got so bad I just nuked the system, but I appreciate the help you gave me. If you know of an easy way to fix apt after it's broken that would be valuable
[17:23] <mahakal> publio: is there any way to cure it
[17:24] <scottjl> mahakal: when you plug the usb drive in, check dmesg. is the system even seeing the drive?
[17:24] <publio> mahakal: USB disks are the least things I know.. But there may be a chance ^^
[17:25] <publio> trustworthy*
[17:26] <publio> Does the default encrypted LVM install use RAID 0 by default? Or will I have to do an advanced install?
[17:27] <mahakal> scottjl: that usb is not shown in the BIOS only .Actually i am using it normally on lapy and just boot 16.04 live with it.But what i want is to create a multiboot usb and for that i need to set the boot order in BIOS
[17:27] <mahakal> but BIOS not showing it
[17:27] <mcnesium> on 16.04 mate simple-scan started on command line returns WARNING **: Error retrieving accessibility bus address  and the gui part reports no scanner found, though lsusb shows the scanner being there. any ideas what could be the problem? it worked a while ago
[17:29] <cryptic0> sed -n '1~4p' file > output  <- Will this extract every fourth line starting with the first line from the file?
[17:30] <publio> mahakal: There may be a confusion of meaning here. You should be able to set BIOS boot order without a USB drive. If it's not there, you can't boot via USB
[17:30] <scottjl> cryptic0: yes
[17:30] <cryptic0> scottjl thanks
[17:30] <scottjl> it won't print line 1 though, line 4, 8, 12, etc.
[17:32] <mahakal> publio: and what i wanna tell you is that "BIOS once showed me the USB while adjusting boot order" but i did not change it because i decided to check web for more information.After gettin info. from web that i reboot again  the BIOS did not show me any usb option
[17:33] <scottjl> mahakal: you might need to enable legacy support for usb or something like that. it really depends on the bios
[17:33] <scottjl> sorry but this isn't a good place for bios support.
[17:33] <mahakal> scottjl: ok thanks
[17:34] <invving> Hehe windows almost forced Linux out the door with uefi
[17:34] <invving> It probably will happen soon.
[17:35] <MkllTech> Ubuntu ubuntu
[17:35] <scottjl> ubuntu
[17:35] <MkllTech> Ubuntu?
[17:35] <altrortla> i have a question
[17:36] <MkllTech> Ok
[17:36] <MkllTech> what is your question?
[17:37] <altrortla> I have installed ubuntu 10.04 and seems to work quite well. now i try to use simple scan or xsane to acquire immages... scanner seems to work but no immage is taken
[17:37] <MkllTech> 10.04?
[17:37] <MkllTech> DId you mean 16.04?
[17:38] <scottjl> god i hope you don't mean 10.04
[17:38] <altrortla> no 10.04 old generation
[17:38] <publio>  :)
[17:38] <altrortla> pentium 4
[17:38] <MkllTech> Use Debian stable instead.
[17:38] <MkllTech> Or at least lubuntu
[17:38] <altrortla> sure is my best choice for this hardware
[17:39] <MkllTech> alt dm me
[17:39] <ducasse> altrortla: 10.04 is eol
[17:39] <ducasse> !eol
[17:39] <altrortla> All news that I know
[17:39] <nacc> mikeymop: sorry, am around now
[17:40] <k1l_> altrortla: you cant use 10.04 anymore. even 12.04 loses support in april. best bet is to try 14.04 Lubuntu
[17:41] <MkllTech> altrortla, check my messages.
[17:41] <altrortla> Done all this trying
[17:41] <MkllTech> Thank you
[17:41] <k1l_> !pm
[17:42] <invving> scottjl: you have problems?
[17:42] <altrortla> Scanner seems to work (do the scan) but images result
[17:42] <scottjl> problem is you're using 3yo software (when it was eol'ed). maybe it's a bug that's been fixed in the last 3 years? who knows.
[17:43] <kissboy> good evening
[17:43] <altrortla> Scanner seems to work (do the scan) but NO images result
[17:44] <altrortla> sorry
[17:44] <kissboy> student
[17:44] <invving> Folder permission or application permission or port permission. altrortla scottjl
[17:44] <scottjl> altrortla: who knows what the cause could be. old bug? old software? broken scanner?
[17:46] <invving> scottjl: wrong!
[17:46] <publio> When installing with RAID, should I use the alternate installer, or install regularly, then resize using LVM?
[17:46] <kissboy> please we ask you help me is my computer
[17:46] <kissboy> bye
[17:49] <semitones_rex> Hey y'all... dd can't copy over USB at 150 MB/s can it? What happened here? Did I data destroy? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24091457/
[17:49] <PipeItToDevNull> So. I want to curl a web page, and start printing at "% TOR" then only print the next 9 lines. What tool do I need to manpage?
[17:51] <k1l_> semitones_rex: is sdb the usb? and did you run "sync" afterwards to make sure the writing is completed and not kept in the cache?
[17:52] <kissboy1> bonsoir
[17:53] <ducasse> !fr | kissboy1
[17:53] <kissboy1> join #ubuntu-fr
[17:54] <kissboy1> bonsoir
[17:54] <BluesKaj> kissboy1, /j #ubuntu-fr
[17:54] <SD_Ecliptica> kissboy1: /join not join
[17:55] <semitones_rex> k1l_, sdb is the usb, but I didn't try sync
[17:55] <xarvis> Hi all.
[17:56] <xarvis> I have an upstart script running
[17:56] <xarvis> which is for a node server
[17:56] <semitones_rex> k1l_, so I guess now it's good? I'll try :)
[17:56] <xarvis> when I go to the directory where the application is based and run, node server.js
[17:56] <xarvis> it works great, but when I run the `service myapp start`, the status is always stop/waiting
[17:56] <semitones_rex> Is there any way to verify that the data on /dev/sdb matches /file/xxx.iso?
[17:57] <xarvis> and when I try to do the `service myapp stop` it will show that there is no instance
[17:57] <EriC^^> semitones_rex: md5sum /dev/sdb and md5sum the iso
[17:57] <k1l_> semitones_rex: md5sum
[17:58] <semitones_rex> thanks :) didn't know you could md5sum /dev files, but that makes sense if devices are files!
[18:00] <EriC^^> semitones_rex: np, the iso is the copy of the disk right? not vice versa
[18:00] <cyberspectre> Is there a way, using any DE, to see all displays on one?
[18:01] <k1l_> cyberspectre: can you rephrase that?
[18:01] <kissboy> sory I not speak English very well
[18:02] <cyberspectre> k1l_, I have a computer with three monitors. Two monitors are in another room. I want to see all of them on one monitor so I know which windows I'm moving onto them
[18:04] <k1l_> cyberspectre: on unity: super+s
[18:05] <Sepher> hey guys. Does anyone know how I could select the wifi gateway to login to from a terminal?
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> Sepher  type   iwlist
[18:06] <ducasse> cyberspectre: i know enlightenment at least used to have a pager that rendered all desktops in real-time
[18:07] <Sepher> MonkeyDust Thanks bro
[18:09] <altrortla> I have installed ubuntu 10.04 and seems to work quite well. now i try to use simple scan or xsane to acquire immages... scanner seems to work but no immage is taken.
[18:09] <altrortla> Firmware is where snapscan folder is ... and scanner is an epson perfection 2580 photo, lucid is fully upgraded.
[18:09] <altrortla> scanimage -L see the scanner usb, and also sane-find-image
[18:09] <altrortla>  
[18:10] <ducasse> altrortla: 10.04 is not supported here, you need to upgrade
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> altrortla  type this to know what's supported      /topic
[18:14] <frib> how can I install ubuntu 16.02 on a usb thumb drive?
[18:14] <k1l_> frib: what OS are you on now?
[18:15] <acousticpanic> hi guys
[18:15] <acousticpanic> quick question about a file bug
[18:15] <frib> k1l_, ubuntu 16
[18:15] <altrortla> ok thanks a lot ... I suppose to find any technician :-) sorry
[18:16] <ducasse> altrortla: just upgrade to a supported release and we'll help
[18:16] <acousticpanic> I'm trying to use openconnect to establish a vpn session to my client
[18:16] <acousticpanic> the path has a "/" in it
[18:16] <acousticpanic> ie https://domain.com:9443/duo
[18:17] <acousticpanic> the /duo makes it not work
[18:17] <acousticpanic> found this bug in launchpad
[18:17] <acousticpanic> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openconnect/+bug/1495924
[18:17] <acousticpanic> has anyone found a work around?
[18:17] <k1l_> frib: if you are using ubuntu right now just use the ubuntu startup creator
[18:18] <frib> k1l_, but i dont want to make a startup usb i want to install ubuntu on the usb
[18:18] <nacc> acousticpanic: did anyone files the bug upstream?
[18:18] <acousticpanic> nacc: no idea...
[18:19] <k1l_> frib: then run the installer in a VM or boot to the installer and choose the usb as the destination
[18:19] <nacc> acousticpanic: seems like the workaround is to use the cli as mentioned in that bug
[18:19] <acousticpanic> nacc: it looks dead in the water from what I can tell, but I've never filed a bug before or chased one through the process
[18:19] <frib> k1l_, the website says minimum harddrive space for 16 is 25g
[18:19] <frib> my usb is 16
[18:20] <acousticpanic> nacc: haha.  I read the following posts but not the OPs latter half
[18:20] <acousticpanic> nacc: yeah, let me try that :)
[18:20] <k1l_> frib: it should work with something about 10GB
[18:20] <EriC^^> frib: 16 will be fine, but you should know usb's seem to die quickly with an os on it at least for me and few i've seen
[18:20] <frib> k1l_, ok i made a mistake its actually 32
[18:20] <nacc> acousticpanic: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=765971
[18:20] <frib> EriC^^, i only plan to use it very rarely
[18:21] <EriC^^> k
[18:21] <frib> EriC^^, but thanks for the heads up. the information on it will be very valuable
[18:21] <nacc> acousticpanic: if you can reproduce it, the original reporter has not responded there
[18:21] <EriC^^> np frib
[18:23] <acousticpanic> nacc: "Failed to Obtain WebVPN cookie"
[18:23] <nacc> acousticpanic: i don't know much about the vpn stuff, just was an fyi
[18:24] <acousticpanic> nacc: thanks.  I think I might need to put a wrapper on it
[18:24] <EriC^^> or chocolate chips
[18:24] <hitman1> Hi, I am unable to boot my PC right now.
[18:25] <EriC^^> hitman1: what happens when you try?
[18:25] <hitman1> I don't know what happened. I was using chrome last time when my PC got freezed. Then I pressed restart button.
[18:26] <hitman1> And now I am getting - "Reboot and select proper boot device or Insert proper boot media in selected boot device and press a key"
[18:27] <EriC^^> hitman1: try to boot a live usb and run a fsck on the partitions
[18:27] <hitman1> I booted a live arch image and tried to run fdisk but it isn't showing any drive.
[18:27] <EriC^^> ah
[18:28] <EriC^^> does dmesg show anything hitman1 ?
[18:28] <hitman1> I also used smartctl.
[18:28] <EriC^^> is it a laptop or desktop?
[18:28] <hitman1> Desktop
[18:29] <EriC^^> it's unlikely but check the power supply if it's getting power
[18:30] <EriC^^> and dmesg
[18:30] <frib> will this menuentry work? http://paste.ubuntu.com/24091635/
[18:30] <hitman1> Eric^^, Yes I am checking ..
[18:32] <Apachez> any of you who have dug into replacement of visio in ubuntu?
[18:32] <pavlos> hitman1, sometimes, disconnect/reconnect the sata cable inside the desktop (from disk drive to mb) may work
[18:33] <pavlos> Apachez, have you tried dia?
[18:33] <hitman1> Also there is no hard drive option showing when I press F11 to select boot device.
[18:34] <k1l_> hitman1: if the bios doesnt see it thats a hardware failure
[18:34] <hitman1> pavlos, How to reconnect.
[18:34] <hitman1> k1l_, hardware failure - but why it happened ?
[18:35] <k1l_> hitman1: hardware fails. there doesnt need to be a reason.
[18:35] <hitman1> lol
[18:35] <pavlos> hitman1, unplug the sata connector from the mb, reconnect it to another sata slot and see if it boots and finds the disk
[18:35] <k1l_> could be a faulty powersupply, or cables. or disk. or mainboard.
[18:36] <hitman1> k1l_ should I try to reconnect it as pavlos is suggesting ?
[18:37] <k1l_> hitman1: yes. worth a try
[18:37] <hitman1> Or should I purchase new hard drive ?
[18:37] <pavlos> hitman1, dust might be an issue ...
[18:38] <hitman1> But what if I only have 1 sata slot ?
[18:38] <pavlos> hitman1, then blow on the sata connector and mb, reconnect to the same sata slot
[18:39] <hitman1> Ok I am trying and will tell you after 5-10 min. Thanks
[18:40] <pavlos> hitman1, try another sata cable ... do we know the disk died? can you connect it external via a pata adapter and it should show up in the live cd
[18:40] <aotaointbin> so, ubuntu 14.04, what user does apache run as by default?
[18:40] <aotaointbin> it's not www-data, it seems, since that user didn't get created during install.
[18:41] <scottjl> aotaointbin: that user should have been created if you installed with apt.
[18:41] <scottjl> if you install from source or something else, well, that's all up to you then
[18:41] <craigbass76> aotaointbin: really... I was on Mint 17, which I thought was equivalent of ub 14, and I had such a user.
[18:42] <hitman1> pavlos, No don't know what PATA adapter is ?
[18:42] <hitman1> I don't know that much hardware side stuffs.
[18:42] <aotaointbin> `apache2ctl status` yields "chown: invalid user: 'www-data'"
[18:42] <intense> is it possible to configure grub settings from the debian-installer in the ubuntu server install?
[18:42] <pavlos> hitman1, it's one of those adapters that allow you to connect an IDE/SATA drive external to a usb port
[18:42] <hitman1> Eric^^, What to check in dmesg ??
[18:42] <Apachez> pavlos: unfortunately it doesnt support importing nor exporting visio format
[18:42] <intense> i need to change a setting before i boot into the system for the first time
[18:42] <aotaointbin> and i don't see a www-data user in /etc/passwd nor /etc/shadow
[18:42] <scottjl> aotaointbin: how did you install apache?
[18:43] <aotaointbin> ansible script that installed apache2-mpm-worker using apt-get.
[18:45] <scottjl> guessing your script didn't do everything it should have then
[18:45] <scottjl> create a www-data user and group then, 33:33.
[18:45] <scottjl> (not your script as in you created it, as in you ran it)
[18:46] <aotaointbin> it did install apache2 (as a dependency for apache2-mdm-worker), though, according to dpkg log.
[18:46] <aotaointbin> it didn't explicitly do any user management tasks, which is why i was asking if this package handled user creation itself.
[18:46] <scottjl> www-data should have been created when apache2 was installed
[18:46] <pavlos> Apachez, you can convert vsd (visio, proprietary) -> svg (vector graphics) and import http://dia-installer.de/vsd2svg/index.html.en
[18:47] <aotaointbin> is user addition/deletion logged anywhere?
[18:47] <scottjl> might be in messages, just grep www-data /var/log/*
[18:48] <Apachez> pavlos: ooh nice
[18:48] <Apachez> tnx
[18:50] <intense> related question: i cannot modify grub params during ubuntu server install because the install shell does not have update-grub or grub-mkconfig. any ideas?
[18:53] <scottjl> intense: short of rolling your own install image, nope.
[18:53] <Wurhwuri748> .
[18:53] <causative> I am getting an authenticate popup, but I didn't take any action manually that would require it... should I be concerned?
[18:53] <causative> "Authentication is needed to run /usr/lib/update-notifier/package-system-locked"
[18:53] <ouroumov> intense, you can still edit the boot command. Then you'll change grub after you're done installing, just edit the boot command again n first boot
[18:54] <scottjl> aotaointbin: i just installed a new 14.04 box. minimal install. no apache. but www-data is created as a user.
[18:54] <scottjl> and the group is there too.
[18:54] <causative> can I tell what process prompted the authenticate popup?
[18:56] <scottjl> causative: ps and look back thru the list. maybe it was automated updates?
[18:56] <kierqueen> why does my ubuntu keeps on getting stuck always? and I need to do emergency shutdown always
[18:56] <causative> I run my updates manually
[18:57] <frib> i successfully installed ubuntu on a usb thumb drive but after selecting the drive at boot it hangs with "_"
[18:57] <scottjl> /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic is all 0's?
[18:57] <ouroumov> kierqueen, what is your processor model?
[18:57] <scottjl> sorry ouroumov kier got stuck ;-)
[18:58] <frib> during setup I partitioned the usb as 1gb swap and the rest as ext4 with mount point / and set the drive to be location for boot partition
[18:58] <frib> what did I do wrong?
[18:58] <intense> scottjl: ouroumov: my first boot shows a blank screen unless i add Ubuntu Desktop at tasksel for some reason. I think i might need to disable GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET. going to try to use preseed/late_command
[18:58] <nicomachus> frib: what type of port do you have it plugged into? USB 2.0 or 3.0?
[18:59] <frib> nicomachus, 3
[18:59] <nicomachus> frib: try a 2.0 if you can. Idk live USBs always hang on 3.0 ports, but they do for some reason.
[18:59] <nicomachus> idk why*
[18:59] <frib> nicomachus, i have another usb installation from a while back that runs on the same ports
[18:59] <frib> nicomachus, did I Install it correctly though?
[18:59] <nicomachus> give it a shot anyway
[19:00] <frib> nicomachus, i don't have any usb 2.0 ports
[19:00] <nicomachus> well I've never heard of anyone putting a Swap partition on a USB... but it should work I guess.
[19:00] <scottjl> frib: no reason that shouldn't work, but depends on bios, jump drive, etc.
[19:00] <frib> nicomachus, isn't a swap necessary for any disk with os on it?
[19:00] <kierqueen> hey
[19:00] <scottjl> frib: no
[19:00] <kierqueen> why does ubuntu keeps stucking out?
[19:00] <kierqueen> why
[19:00] <scottjl> swap isn't necessary at all for a system to run
[19:00] <frib> scottjl, it could use the internal disks's swap space you mean?
[19:00] <ouroumov> kierqueen, what is your processor model?
[19:01] <nicomachus> frib: no
[19:01] <scottjl> frib: you could, or have no swap at all.
[19:01] <frib> ok
[19:01] <nicomachus> frib: your machine has RAM for that.
[19:01] <BluesKaj> think a swap file would probly work better, if you really need swapiness
[19:01] <frib> i'll try again
[19:01] <scottjl> swap is only needed if you are going to run more than available RAM. if you have 16G ram and don't run that much in processes, you don't need any swap at all
[19:01] <causative> so is there a way of finding out which process caused the authentication popup?
[19:02] <scottjl> causative: yes, use ps, and trace back thru the list.
[19:02] <kierqueen> ouroumov: don't know which cmd? lscpu ?
[19:02] <causative> well I tried pstree but it doesn't show any processes in the tree apart from polkit processes
[19:02] <ouroumov> kierqueen, lshw -C cpu, inxi -C, lscpu
[19:02] <kierqueen> my processor is fine, I think corei5 hp
[19:03] <causative> systemd(1)───systemd(1936)───gnome-session-b(2411)───polkit-gnome-au(2563)───polkit-agent-he(8428)
[19:03] <kierqueen>  https://ptpb.pw/3qO2
[19:03] <causative> I assume none of those are what I'm looking for
[19:04] <cyber37> Hi guy's, I was in Ubuntu 16.04 with a gqrx version build from sources, it was working well, I updated to 16.10 and now i have a problem. The software can't start because it requiered an OLDER library: gqrx: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_system.so.1.58.0 but me I have now : /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libboost_system.so.1.61.0
[19:04] <vlt> Hello. Nearly everything on my Ubuntu 16.04 desktop is localized/translated, also Thunderbird but not its Lightning module. What do I need to install do get also that in my local language?
[19:05] <cyber37> How to resolve this ? Maybe i have to install an older version of libboost ? But how to do it ? Libboost in installed with "apt-get install libboost-all-dev"
[19:05] <nacc> cyber37: boost1.58 is not available in 16.10
[19:05] <nacc> cyber37: you will need to rebuild it from source using the new liboost
[19:06] <kierqueen> hey ouroumov
[19:06] <kierqueen>  https://ptpb.pw/P5BT
[19:07] <kierqueen> I hope that works ouroumov ?
[19:07] <frib> i lost grub on main disk after installing ubuntu to usb. how can I reinstall it?
[19:07] <cyber37> nacc, Thanks i'm trying to rebuild gqrx.
[19:07] <aotaointbin> okay, it turns out whoever provisioned this vm did something weird with www-data before apache was installed or anything.
[19:08] <aotaointbin> scottjl: ah, maybe that's the issue...
[19:08] <tripkin> I am back
[19:08] <tripkin> Oops, wrong chan. But just in case you were wondering.,..
[19:08] <aotaointbin> are you saying that the minimal install pre-creates www-data even with no apache?
[19:08] <scottjl> aotaointbin: yes. i just spun up a 14.04 box. minimal install. no apache. yet www-data was present.
[19:09] <aotaointbin> and that would suggest that apache install doesn't create www-data on its own, expecting it to already be there?
[19:09] <mikeymop> nacc: it's cool, just wanted to thank you for the time you gave me
[19:09] <kierqueen> hey ouroumov
[19:09] <kierqueen> https://ptpb.pw/3VV3
[19:10] <aotaointbin> see, i was given a 14.04 vm that was "secured" by a relatively incompetent guy. i'm guessing he didn't think through the implications of half the things he did, like deleting www-data.
[19:10] <ducasse> vlt: looks like it has en-us only
[19:10] <scottjl> aotaointbin: i could swear i've seen apache do a check for www-user during install and create it if it wasn't, but that could be on a different distro (I use too many, sorry)
[19:10] <scottjl> aotaointbin: ugh. :-(
[19:10] <kierqueen> ouroumov: I don't knkow how shall I interpret your silence?
[19:10] <scottjl> kierqueen: maybe he's AFK?
[19:10] <kierqueen> scottjl: kk
[19:10] <aotaointbin> trying to dig through syslog to see what his 'provisioning' process looks like. seems to do something with www-data at the least.
[19:11] <kierqueen> but why does it keeps getting stuck
[19:11] <mikeymop> nacc: also can you confirm this is the guide you followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WordPress
[19:11] <vlt> ducasse: hmmm ok
[19:11] <kierqueen> ubuntu is crap, arch never stucks
[19:11] <scottjl> aotaointbin: if something is set up in a minimal install, i'd just leave it there.
[19:11] <Mutter> how to save mdadm on pc after creating raid0?
[19:11] <scottjl> kierqueen: then go back to arch?
[19:11] <kierqueen> what's up with ubuntu, and whenever I play the flighgear game it stucks, not I want uubntu
[19:11] <kierqueen> what's wrong with ubuntu
[19:11] <scottjl> the list is very long.
[19:11] <semitones_rex> If I use dd to write foo.iso to /dev/sdb, then should md5sum foo.iso match sudo md5sum /dev/sdb? Because they don't :(
[19:12] <kierqueen> don't you experiecne the same thing when you play the flightgear game,?
[19:12] <kierqueen> why
[19:12] <aotaointbin> scottjl: he fancies himself a "security guru".
[19:12] <scottjl> aotaointbin: condolences
[19:12] <aotaointbin> it's sad when developers are better admins than the actual sysadmin guy :\
[19:13] <aotaointbin> blind leading the blind. either way, thanks for the help, that definitely illuminates things for me.
[19:13] <scottjl> aotaointbin: hire better admins!
[19:13] <intense> so apparently if you modify /etc/default/grub in the install shell, you can affect changes on first boot without the need for update-grub. i managed to change the grub params i needed and now i have some output on boot. My output stops at the mounting of my swap space. Don't see an error
[19:13] <aotaointbin> i think this guy was a political hire.
[19:14] <scottjl> aotaointbin: i'd blow away that box and do a clean install of 14.04 (or 16.04, even better). who knows how bad he screwed it up
[19:14] <scottjl> a minimal install on its own is fairly secure anyway.
[19:14] <scottjl> do an update after the install of course
[19:15] <aotaointbin> i don't have access to the vm host.
[19:15] <aotaointbin> i'll just add user/group checks in my ansible script prior to apache install.
[19:16] <scottjl> ugh
[19:16] <scottjl> yeah
[19:16] <causative> so is there any way to find out what is causing the popup?  I'm assuming some other process is asking policykit to launch the popup even though policykit is the process owner
[19:16] <scottjl> www-data/www-data 33:33
[19:16] <aotaointbin> and i'll play dumb with him being like "hey, i installed apache in your vm but it's not working. plz halp."
[19:16] <scottjl> haha
[19:16] <scottjl> if he's a super-admin should be easy for him to figure out (what he screwed up)
[19:16] <aotaointbin> it took him two weeks to create a "secure" 14.04 base image.
[19:17] <scottjl> O_o
[19:17] <aotaointbin> and now that he can finally stand up vms for us, they don't even work. well, at least i know _my_ job is secure :P
[19:17] <scottjl> so you're saying the CEO hired his kid? lol
[19:17] <Pici> !offtopic
[19:19] <UNIcodeX> trying to update my kernel to 4.9.13 remotely. also have amdgpu-pro and rtl8812au wireless LAN drivers installed, which were built manually. i've removed amdgpu-pro and obtained the kernel *.deb files for amd64 from here -- http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.9.13/ -- I'm trying to make sure that when I reboot, that my wireless LAN drivers will be loaded up and that I will be able to SSH back in. pointers??
[19:20] <scottjl> have a backup way in.
[19:22] <frib> I installed ubuntu to a usb thumb drive, without error, but can't get the drive to boot
[19:22] <frib> what can I do to fix it? thanks!
[19:23] <Southern_Gentlem> frib, do you have another linux machine or OSX machine that you can plug it in to
[19:23] <BluesKaj> frib, which method did you use to copy the image to the USB?
[19:23] <frib> Southern_Gentlem, that's what I'm on right now
[19:24] <frib> BluesKaj, i ran the livecd as an ISO through grub on my main disk
[19:24] <frib> and installed it directly to the usb
[19:24] <Southern_Gentlem> fdisk -l and see if the usb is marked bootable
[19:24] <frib> Southern_Gentlem, i created 2 partitions: EFI (bootable in fdisk) and ext4 (not bootable)
[19:24] <BluesKaj> frib, that did not make the USB bootable
[19:24] <frib> BluesKaj, i set the mount point of the efi partition to /boot and the ext4 partition to /
[19:25] <frib> BluesKaj, what should I do?
[19:25]  * Southern_Gentlem walks away quickly 
[19:25] <aotaointbin> scottjl: CTO hired his former coworker, but yea, basically.
[19:25] <aotaointbin> i'm the only one on the team that's not his former coworker.
[19:25] <aotaointbin> so maybe my job isn't so secure :P
[19:26] <frib>  Southern_Gentlem what should I do differently? please help thanks
[19:26] <BluesKaj> frbcopy the iso to the usb formatted to fat32 with dd
[19:26] <BluesKaj> frib,^
[19:26] <frib> BluesKaj, i want to install the os directly to the disk, not copy the livecd image
[19:26] <BluesKaj> !dd
[19:26] <frib> as i have done with antoher usb
[19:26] <stoned> Is there a minimal ubuntu netinstall cd image (250mb or so) for install?
[19:27] <stoned> I don't want to download large image of packets i will never used
[19:27] <stoned> please, thank you
[19:28] <BluesKaj> frib, copy the iso to the usb using dd
[19:28] <BluesKaj> !info dd
[19:28] <frib> BluesKaj, i can't use that method
[19:28] <dannyLopez> Im touching ay of update-rc.d and hope know if I can remove any script put here?
[19:28] <frib> BluesKaj, I want to install the OS onto the disk
[19:29] <sumit_> frib: first make ur pendrive bootable using unetbootin or by using other tools then u can install easily
[19:29] <BluesKaj> unetbootin is an option , but it's unrelaible IME
[19:29] <ducasse> !mini | stoned
[19:30] <ducasse> stoned: afaik it doesn't work with uefi, though
[19:30] <scottjl> frib: are you trying to make a live usb or just boot off usb to install?
[19:30] <frib> scottjl, the latter
[19:30] <frib> no
[19:30] <frib> neither
[19:30] <BluesKaj> frib, your method doen't make the usb bootable in order tio install to the disk from it
[19:30] <frib> i'm trying to install the OS onto the disk.
[19:30] <scottjl> ok.
[19:31] <stoned> ducasse: I have core 2 pc, 9 year old, legacy bios
[19:31] <stoned> not have efi
[19:31] <stoned> I also like to use xmonad, and I like a zfs kernel please
[19:31] <frib> BluesKaj, i am not trying to use the usb as an install tool
[19:31] <scottjl> frib: are you sure your bios supports usb booting? can you hit f10 or something to select a boot drive?
[19:31] <intense> stoned, ducasse: isn't there only 1 option for netbooting? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/
[19:31] <frib> scottjl, yes because ihave another usb that i boot ubuntu from
[19:31] <intense> 1 option per version
[19:32] <frib> scottjl, i made it a long time ago and I don't know how to do it again
[19:32] <stoned> apparently there is a 'minimal' cd which is equivalent to debians inetinstall cd
[19:32] <stoned> netboot is differnt than netinstall
[19:32] <carol3> is it a good idea to use ubuntu, and will it do it's job ?
[19:32] <intense> carol3: nope
[19:32] <stoned> netboot is just ramdisk image and kernel, whereas a netinstall is a base system on a cd
[19:32] <scottjl> carol3: maybe? maybe?
[19:32] <carol3> what are the obstacles?
[19:32] <BluesKaj> stoned, there's no ubuntu netinstall image afaik
[19:32] <scottjl> carol3: many
[19:32] <stoned> I want to be stable, so probbly LTs
[19:33] <BluesKaj> minimal perhaps
[19:33] <intense> carol3: just install gentoo, it's easier
[19:33] <ducasse> intense: stop that, please
[19:33] <carol3> i want an os i can understand
[19:33] <scottjl> intense, carol3: carol3 should install linux from scratch, that way she gets exactly what she needs.
[19:34] <frib> scottjl, do you know how?
[19:34] <intense> lmao
[19:34] <stoned> I am buildin gmy own ubuntu sytem like I do w/ debian
[19:34] <scottjl> frib: i've just done a general install onto usb and it's worked for me without issues, but it is sort of hardware dependant.
[19:35] <ducasse> carol3: don't listen to them, ubuntu does things well enough
[19:35] <scottjl> frib: try making sure there's a separate /boot partition and it's first. it could be that. but not usually.
[19:35] <stoned> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD <- then just need xorg, xmonad, pulseadio, chrome, vim, and some music software, and I'm done.
[19:35] <stoned> buntu has too much stuff i dno' tneed.
[19:36] <carol3> i am a bit puzzled about your answers
[19:36] <stoned> nothing is problem
[19:36] <BluesKaj> frib, it makes no differnce what you intend, in order to make a bootable image on a usb you have to use dd or unetbootin , a live image which you can run as an OS still needs to be bootable.
[19:36] <stoned> :)
[19:36] <scottjl> carol3: you do realize your questions are horribly vague and situational dependent, right?
[19:37] <carol3> i want to know, if you have a good feeling using ubuntu
[19:37] <k1l_> carol3: yes, its good to use ubuntu. just start using it.
[19:37] <scottjl> carol3: yes. or i wouldn't be hanging out in this chat
[19:37] <intense> carol3: yes, ubuntu gives me a feeling
[19:37] <k1l_> (if it was that what you wanted to hear :) )
[19:38] <carol3> i want to hear your opinion, not what you think i want to hear
[19:38] <intense> carol3: pretty sure this is a bot
[19:38] <ducasse> carol3: ask clearer questions, you'll get clearer answers
[19:38] <stoned> is ubuntu only release based? or does it have a rolling structure like debian testing?
[19:38] <scottjl> 6 month releases
[19:38] <intense> stoned: release. stick with a LTS. i suggest 16.04
[19:38] <scottjl>  2 year ltr's
[19:39] <scottjl> lts
[19:39] <stoned> I see.
[19:39] <scottjl> carol3: tell us, how do you feel about considering ubuntu.
[19:39] <stoned> How is the upgrade from one LTS to another>
[19:40] <carol3> i will download ubuntu and install it, if it will not work, i come back and  tell yout that ;-)
[19:40] <scottjl> stoned: mixed bag. i've had previous (8->10, 10->12) crash and burn during upgrades. but the 14->16 servers i've upgraded have generally been good
[19:40] <scottjl> YMMV
[19:40] <intense> be sure to download more RAM as well ;)
[19:40] <scottjl> intense: i installed ramdoubler and all my memory issues went away.
[19:41] <ckrusher> carol3: I can't wait
[19:41] <greeter> greetings. i'm having an issue and i'm not sure where to begin troubleshooting. i recently updated my xubuntu 16.04 and now whenever i try to connect via wireless my computer crashes with what appears to be a kernel panic
[19:41] <BluesKaj> stoned, kde/plasma 4 to kde/plasma5 is a bit clunky.  Make sure ALL your packages are up to date before upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04
[19:41] <intense> sudo rm -rf / && apt-get install ramdoubler
[19:41] <ckrusher> intense: fuck off
[19:42] <gmh> Best <$200 (second hand) 15 inch laptop for Ubuntu? Mainly for web development, office work etc.
[19:42] <BluesKaj> stoned, assuming you're on kde , otherwise never mind :-)
[19:42] <scottjl> stoned said he wanted a minimal system, don't think he'll be running kde.
[19:42] <greeter> basically, i think the best way to fix my problem is to go back to the previous kernel i had, but i have no idea how to do that
[19:42] <carol3> actually i want an os and a community i can complain about malfunctions
[19:43] <ducasse> gmh: no spam please
[19:43] <intense> xfce4 is minimal but i would recommend gnome cause xfce4 doesnt seem as well maintained
[19:43] <scottjl> carol3: i'd avoid computers entirely then.
[19:43] <gmh> ducasse: ?
[19:43] <BluesKaj> scottjl, I seen him in other chats talking about kde iirc
[19:43] <carol3> why that??
[19:43] <ducasse> gmh: sorry, i thought you were trying to sell :)
[19:43] <scottjl> BluesKaj: ah. he was discussing a minimal install earlier here.
[19:44] <BluesKaj> yeah
[19:44] <ducasse> gmh: misread on my part :)
[19:45] <BluesKaj> scottjl, think he has me on ignore :-)
[19:45] <carol3> what are the differences between 16.04 and 16.10 ?
[19:46] <pavlos> 6 months ;)
[19:46] <scottjl> 16.04 is a LTS (long term support) release, 16.10 is a general release.
[19:46] <carol3> no functional differences?
[19:47] <semitones_rex> Hey y'all i'm having a problem with dd. I'm asking it to write an iso to a USB, but afterwards, the md5sums don't match up. Is that normal?
[19:47] <ducasse> carol3: 16.04 is supported for 5 years, 16.10 for 9 months
[19:47] <scottjl> well LTS releases update slower and are generally more stable, without getting all the latest/greatest updates/features.
[19:47] <carol3> ducasse: ok, thx
[19:47] <greeter> hmm, well i'll see if i can fix it, if not i'll be back...
[19:48] <andypaxo> hello i have installed 16.04 onto Pi 3B and performed a "sudo rpi-update" and now i get a kernel module.load failed entry when booting.  Can someone point me where to look to solve this please?
[19:49] <ducasse> andypaxo: try #ubuntu-arm
[19:50] <BluesKaj> andypaxo, joiin #raspberrypi chat
[19:50] <pavlos> semitones_rex, md5sums should match
[19:53] <ckrusher> No ops on here? ban kiltzman. Sheesh
[19:53] <andypaxo> ducasse: thanks for help
[19:55] <intense> i installed desktop 14.04 on one system, and netboot server 14.04 on another, and then upgraded the server by adding Ubuntu Desktop to tasksel. however the netbooted system had inferior resolution. im thinking i need a display related package or maybe Xorg configuration. any other ideas?
[19:55] <intense> (identical monitors)
[19:55] <carol3> does ubuntu trace user activities?
[19:56] <ckrusher> carol3: only if you ask it to
[19:56] <carol3> so not per default, right?
[19:56] <ducasse> intense: probably not a monitor issue, i'd suspect graphics driver first
[19:56] <scottjl> carol3: no
[19:56] <ckrusher> carol3: any reason you want me to answer the same question twice?
[19:57] <scottjl> carol3: unless you count .history files
[20:00] <Guest51835> Hallo
[20:00] <Guest51835> ?????
[20:01] <okwaho> hey
[20:01] <intense> ducasse: ok, according to lspci my nouveau is not in use on that system, thx
[20:01] <ducasse> !ask | Guest51835
[20:02] <scottjl> ducasse: 2 slow
[20:03] <ducasse> scottjl: not really, as he/she quit after my message
[20:03] <scottjl> not according to my log. shrug.
[20:04] <ducasse> 6 seconds in mine, but pointless discussion :)
[20:04] <frib> how can I determine if i installed ubuntu in legacy or uefi mode?
[20:05] <ducasse> frib: run 'ls /sys/firmware/efi' - if it returns anything you are in uefi mode
[20:06] <frib> ducasse, is there a way if i am not currently booted on that disk?
[20:06] <ducasse> frib: you can check the efi partition to see if ubuntu has installed an efi bootloader
[20:07] <frib> ducasse, i didn't create an efi partition on it
[20:07] <frib> just ext4 as /
[20:11] <croberts> has anyone hit where they are using terminal sshed to a box and it just locks up, no broken pipe message or anything. ubuntu 16.04
[20:18] <pavlos> frib, sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda (or whatever the device is
[20:20] <ckrusher> croberts: your link will have gone down. You can break the link
[20:20] <ckrusher> croberts: "Enter~." does it
[20:21] <ducasse> pavlos: that will only tell you the type of partition table and list the partitions
[20:22] <\9> croberts: maybe you suspended the output with ctrl+s?
[20:22] <croberts> ah that could be it
[20:23] <pavlos> ducasse, the 1st partition labeled EFI system, doesnt that imply EFI install?
[20:23] <croberts> cool ty
[20:25] <ducasse> frib: he's saying he didn't create an efi partition, but that doesn't need to be on the same disk necessarily
[20:28] <frib> ducasse, i'm going to try using an image from a usb install
[20:32] <semitones_rex> pavlos, is there a more reliable way than dd to copy the iso to the /dev/sdb? or is there a way to troubleshoot and find out why they do not match?
[20:33] <EriC^^> semitones_rex: iso to /dev/sdb wont match cause sdb will be larger probably
[20:34] <semitones_rex> oh ok. thanks EriC^^ :)
[20:34] <pavlos> semitones_rex, there is also ddrescue which shows progress and errors
[20:34] <semitones_rex> So is there a way to at least find out if the beginning of the /dev matches the beginning of the iso?
[20:35] <semitones_rex> I've been having trouble booting from this usb, so want to make sure it's writing ok
[20:36] <Citizen_> Hi, how can I swap left-right stereo sound in Ubuntu 16.04?
[20:37] <EriC^^> semitones_rex: dd if=/dev/sda count=<something x 512bytes that'll give you the iso size>
[20:48] <diogenes_> jason_-, you can also try rename .config folder
[20:49] <jason_-> well I just ran the thing EriC^^ said
[20:49] <jason_-> still can't login
[20:49] <EriC^^> jason_-: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:49] <k1l_> jason_-: does guest account work?
[20:49] <k1l_> jason_-: if that works its not a driver issue
[20:50] <aotaointbin> i mean, if he's seeing a graphical login prompt, then wouldn't that itself imply that it's not a driver issue?
[20:51] <k1l_> aotaointbin: no. its only basic 2d for that. for login ti needs 3d so the basic driver can serve the login screen
[20:51] <jason_-> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/24092388/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/24092389/
[20:51] <aotaointbin> didn't think lightdm would switch drivers between login prompt and full desktop.
[20:51] <jason_-> (the second is greped for errors)
[20:52] <k1l_> but if he uses guest account and it works then we know its a user setting
[20:52] <k1l_> aotaointbin: it doesnt switch drivers. but the fallback drivers can serve 2d only loginscreens
[20:52] <erisontavares> wow
[20:53] <aruns> Hi, running RVM 1.29.1 on Ubuntu 16.04, need to set GEM_HOME env variable.
[20:53] <aruns> But not sure whether this should be $HOME/.rvm/.gem or $HOME/.gem
[20:53] <aotaointbin> interesting.
[20:53] <jason_-> EriC^^, the machine has a k40 GPU and I think installing the drivers for it screwed something up. It doesn't actually have an display output, so I need to use the integrated graphics for my monitors.
[20:55] <EriC^^> !find libnvidia-tls.so.304.135
[21:00] <jason_-> I suppose I can try installing nvidia-304?
[21:21] <finexbeer> hi
[21:21] <finexbeer> is better 2gb of ram or 4gb ram
[21:22] <k1l_> finexbeer: the more the better
[21:22] <diogenes_> finexbeer, what is ram?
[21:22] <k1l_> diogenes_: memory
[21:22] <deepend> how do I create a complete backup of a ubuntu install?
[21:22] <deepend> use dd?
[21:22] <diogenes_> i asked him :)
[21:23] <deepend> do i need to boot from a live usb or something for it to work?
[21:23] <finexbeer> for a compiuter whit install ubuntu??
[21:23] <deepend> yeah got an ubuntu install iwant to save the setup and all the files etc to an image
[21:23] <deepend> then gonna nuke the install
[21:23] <deepend> but want to be able to get it back just as it is at a later date
[21:23] <scottjl> dd will be a byte level copy of the disk.
[21:23] <deepend> of the partition, right?
[21:24] <scottjl> so if you have a comparable disk, just dd the whole source to a destination
[21:24] <k1l_> finexbeer: the more ram the machine has the better it is for the system. but ubuntu can run with 2gb or 4gb.
[21:24] <scottjl> well disk (/dev/sda) or partition (/dev/sda1)
[21:24] <deepend> but to create that, will I have to boot from a live usb?
[21:24] <deepend> or can i just unmount the filesystem?
[21:24] <scottjl> if you do a dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb you would be able to boot from the copy disk.
[21:25] <deepend> right but can I create that copy while the system is running?
[21:26] <scottjl> you could, but i wouldn't advise it. boot from a live disk and do the copy. if it's a large disk. it will take hours. even worse over usb
[21:26] <deepend> okay thanks
[21:27] <scottjl> you're doing a byte by byte copy.
[21:27] <scottjl> do the full disk though, not partitions. if you're going to go the dd route
[21:28] <deepend> how would you do that?
[21:28] <scottjl> dd if=/dev/sd(source disk) of=/dev/sd(dest disk)
[21:28] <helo> i'm trying to install mariadb-server-10.1 without being prompted for the password for mariadb "root" user... i've tried set-selections and setting noninteractive frontend, but it still prompts
[21:29] <deepend> so instead of /dev/sda1 you would use /dev/sda ?
[21:29] <frib> i am trying to full install ubuntu to usb drive and make it efi bootable. can't seem to make it work, please help!
[21:29] <scottjl> deepend: yes. you'd tell it the whole disk and not a single partition
[21:30] <deepend> should I just use clonezilla for this?
[21:30] <scottjl> deepend: you could.
[21:30] <deepend> alright that might be the simplest route
[21:30] <frib> initially i was getting black screen but then i tried reinstalling and selecting "Do not use this partition" For the efi partition on my main disk ( i think it was interfering) and after that booting from the usb gave me grub rescue prompt
[21:32] <frib> booting "From efi file" using the efi option that becomes available after installing to the usb has no boot options in it
[21:32] <finexbeer> but is better buying a pc whit 2gb or 4gb
[21:33] <nacc> finexbeer: you've been told already
[21:33] <k1l_> finexbeer: 4gb
[21:33] <LjL> who buys a PC with 2GB RAM in 2017?
[21:33] <scottjl> finexbeer: bigger is better!
[21:33] <k1l_> finexbeer: or buy a pc with 20gb.
[21:33] <LjL> 4GB minimum, 8GB enough for most people, more than that, justified by specific needs
[21:34] <LjL> 2GB acceptable if buying a cheap netbook knowing its use cases will be extremely restricted
[21:34] <scottjl> buy as much as you can afford, especially if you can't add to it later (fixed amount). more memory now extends the lifetime of using the system
[21:35] <compdoc> my pc has 16G, and its enough
[21:36] <aritsune> hey, i hooked up my integrated graphics to one of the inputs on my monitor, but X doesn't seem to be starting for it when i switch to that input, do i have to do anything special to get it to do so?
[21:38] <ilmaisin> tried to install the cups package now in proposed, now my package management is totally broken
[21:40] <jnoob22> ilmaisin, eh sounds terrible
[21:40] <jnoob22> ilmaisin, what kind of error you gettin?
[21:40] <k1l_> yes, pproposed is used for automated testings and not meant for enduser.
[21:41] <ilmaisin> k1l_: so no for manual testings?
[21:41] <scottjl> well manual testing means it might not always work (as in your case)
[21:41] <ilmaisin> jnoob22: some dependency conflicts
[21:41] <k1l_> ilmaisin: well, not if you dont know how to handle that and not to run general updates on all packages etc
[21:41] <scottjl> back the install out, turn off proposed, and install the mainline package
[21:42] <ilmaisin> scottjl: it fails
[21:42] <scottjl> show us the errors!
[21:42] <ilmaisin> scottjl: just a moment
[21:43] <ilmaisin> scottjl: http://pastebin.com/tdMWr0xB
[21:45] <scottjl> ilmaisin: apt-get purge cups libcupsimage2 libcupsmime1 libcupsppdc1 printer-driver-foo2zjs
[21:46] <ilmaisin> scottjl: now it's broken different way http://pastebin.com/ryDsEZb9
[21:49] <ilmaisin> if this update gets to the main archive it can be literally spell the end of ubuntu and canonical
[21:50] <scottjl> ilmaisin: dpkg purge cups libcupsimage2 libcupsmime1 libcupsppdc1 printer-driver-foo2zjs
[21:50] <nacc> ilmaisin: lol, that's hyperbole.
[21:50] <scottjl> well stuff in proposed gets thoroughly vetted before it makes it into mainline. proposed is essentially beta.
[21:51] <jnoob22> ilmaisin, it's a good idea to help others who are helping you. hint.
[21:51] <nacc> scottjl: i think you meant -P or --purge
[21:51] <jnoob22> otherwise dont waste these guys' time. they're doing this for the love it, mate :-)
[21:51] <nacc> scottjl: dpkg doesn't take command arguments (iirc)
[21:52] <scottjl> yeah --purge.
[21:52] <scottjl> thanks nacc
[21:52] <nacc> scottjl: np
[21:53] <ilmaisin> scottjl: the --purge helped something, now cups-daemon is ina "very inconsistent state"
[21:54] <kikiji> exit
[21:54] <scottjl> did you turn off proposed yet?
[21:54] <ilmaisin> scottjl: yes i did
[21:54] <scottjl> try an apt-get install -f
[21:54] <scottjl> see if it can repair itself yet
[21:55] <ilmaisin> scottjl: http://pastebin.com/imJrfbYh
[21:56] <scottjl> dpkg --purge cups-daemon
[21:56] <scottjl> i'd dpkg --list | grep cups and purge anything doing with cups
[21:56] <scottjl> clean it off. then reinstall it from mainline
[21:57] <scottjl> you dont want mixed pieces from proposed & mainline
[21:57] <nacc> except when testing/verifying a bugfix :)
[21:57] <ilmaisin> scottjl: it won't help a slight since the cups-daemon needs to be reinstalled before a removal
[21:57] <nacc> as that's explicitly the instruction for doing :)
[21:58] <scottjl> i think ilmaisin is already bugged
[21:59] <ilmaisin> hmm, i just remembered i've been testing a my own printer driver on this machine, perhaps i'll remove it and then continue
[21:59] <nacc> if need be, should be able to reinstall the correct version of cups-daemon manually
[21:59] <nacc> lol
[22:00] <ilmaisin> those files are already removed
[22:01] <scottjl> anything that is showing up in dpkg --list | grep cups   isn't removed (or maybe just not purged)
[22:02] <scottjl> you don't want newer config files around either because they could be incompatible with the older version of cups
[22:02] <nacc> scottjl: good point
[22:03] <ilmaisin> now i ran dpkg --purge --force-remove-reinstreq cups-daemon
[22:04] <scottjl> try an apt-get install -f and see if it's happy
[22:04] <ilmaisin> scottjl: i ran "apt install cups" and it seems to work
[22:04] <ilmaisin> thanks for everybody
[22:04] <scottjl> well you jumped the gun a little. but glad it's working
[22:05] <roadrunneratwast> hey is there a gui tool to map keyboard combinations.  i spilled something on my direction keys and want to map ALT-IJKL to the up, left, down, right
[22:05] <ilmaisin> next i'll need to figure out what caused it
[22:06] <scottjl> well seemed like some depenency conflict because of proposed.
[22:06] <scottjl> staaaay away from prposed.
[22:08] <ilmaisin> scottjl: so that the problematic packages will get to the mainline?
[22:08] <nacc> ilmaisin: were you testing proposed in response to a specific bug?
[22:08] <scottjl> ilmaisin: not until any issues are worked out. proposed = beta software (or even alpha)
[22:09] <scottjl> there isn't any reason a normal system should be using proposed.
[22:09] <ilmaisin> nacc: yes, i've been taking part to the troubleshooting of a bug
[22:09] <ilmaisin> nacc: that bug was fixed with a package that caused something like this
[22:10] <nacc> ilmaisin: ok, and did you use pinning to only install certain packages from proposed? or did you do an `apt upgrade` ?
[22:10] <S0bait> Hello when I pass SIGINFO signal to DD command, I do see some output but how do I tell how much time is left?
[22:10] <ilmaisin> nacc: yes, i was trying to install only the cups package from proposed and it's requirements to see if it will work
[22:11] <nacc> ilmaisin: bug #?
[22:11] <ilmaisin> i'll see
[22:12] <ilmaisin> nacc: the original one is 1598300 and fix to it caused 1642966
[22:12] <ilmaisin> i'll investigate it tomorrow
[22:14] <Random832> S0bait, math
[22:15] <Random832> (dd itself doesn't care how large the file is, so it doesn't do the math for you)
[22:15] <nicomachus> S0bait: most linux distros will NOT try to tell you how much time is left for a given operation. Some have a progress bar, but it's mostly guesswork. Windows has spoiled users with "progress bars" (that are 99% made up), and linux doesn't do that.
[22:16] <k1l_> S0bait: pipe it through pv when you know the size
[22:18] <O1O1> how do i display which top files/directories using up my hard drive space in ubuntu command line?
[22:18] <k1l_> O1O1: look at "ncdu"
[22:19] <nicomachus> !info ncdu
[22:19] <nicomachus> didn't know about that one, thanks k1l_
[22:19] <O1O1> thanks guys
[22:19] <O1O1> let me go test it out
[22:19] <k1l_> yeah, its a nice litttle interactive "gui" for the cli
[22:20]  * nicomachus likes ncurses and any package that's start with ncurses ....
[22:20] <scottjl> +1
[22:20] <nicomachus> best of both worlds. gui in a cli
[22:24] <DJFSDFJSDF> hey guys, I have struggle all the afternoon
[22:24] <DJFSDFJSDF> with Ubuntu installarion
[22:24] <DJFSDFJSDF> can someone help me?
[22:25] <Bashing-om> DJFSDFJSDF: Depends on your issue and our level of expreience . What is the issue ?
[22:27] <feliwir> hey, i am having trouble creating a bootable USB-Stick with usb-creator-gtk. When selectin my .iso file it won't allow me to press "Make startup disk"
[22:27] <feliwir> I tried with multiple .iso files and multiple usb sticks
[22:27] <DJFSDFJSDF> Bashing-om: well Im not an expert but I know my way through the terminal. Well I have two disk: 1.) SSD = which I have formatted many times, 2.) HDD = which now is encrypted and I havent been able to format it. I boot Ubuntu from a USB drive (version 16.04 LTS). The problems I have been having are:  1.) I try to install Ubuntu and it goes everything smooth until de part of the User name when it stops and lags eternally or 2.) it says the US
[22:27] <DJFSDFJSDF> B drive is corrupted so I cant do anything. I'm a little bit desesperate because I need to use my pc and I havent been able :(. Please help me
[22:27] <cfhowlett> feliwir, what is the .iso?
[22:27] <feliwir> Also tried from cli: "usb-creator-gtk -i path/to/iso"
[22:27] <feliwir> cfhowlett, it's windows 10 i want to install it on my other drive
[22:28] <cfhowlett> feliwir, nope.  usb creator is for making UBUNTU usb
[22:28] <feliwir> windows10 education to be precise
[22:28] <feliwir> cfhowlett, so what to use? :O
[22:28] <k1l_> feliwir: that doesnt work with windows isos
[22:28] <feliwir> UNetbootin not working either
[22:29] <bazhang> feliwir, try ##windows
[22:29] <k1l_> feliwir: ask ##windows how to create a windows usb withtout a windows os running.
[22:29] <scottjl> DJFSDFJSDF: you're installing to the ssd? is it possibble your usb drive is corrupt?
[22:29] <feliwir> kidding me? You can't tell me how to create bootable windows usb stick from ubuntu
[22:29] <k1l_> feliwir: its closed source.
[22:29] <DJFSDFJSDF> scottjl: yes, I have reinstall the OS Several times on two differentUSB one of 16 and the other of 8; the thing is after having an incorrect installation the uSB corrupts. Thats the strenage thing
[22:29] <cfhowlett> feliwir, dial down the impatience, please
[22:29] <DJFSDFJSDF> *strange
[22:30] <scottjl> feliwir: try something like easy2boot
[22:30] <compdoc> UNetbootin is terrible
[22:31] <\9> DJFSDFJSDF: if the USB systematically fails then maybe it'd be worth to try a CD?
[22:31] <\9> worth it*
[22:31] <DJFSDFJSDF> \9: may be mmm but how did it get corrupted I dont understand
[22:31] <cfhowlett> dvd perhaps.  ubuntu is too large for CD
[22:31] <nicomachus> \9: most OS's don't fit on a CD anymore.
[22:31] <\9> oh yeah. a DVD is required then
[22:32] <scottjl> jumpdrives get corrupted if you look at them funny in my experience
[22:32] <\9> oh the times when ubuntu fit on a CD
[22:32] <\9> well a netboot might fit
[22:32] <feliwir> unetbootin won't allow me to select my drive
[22:32] <feliwir> it just lists nothing for USB Drives
[22:33] <feliwir> i wonder why that is even in the official repository
[22:33] <scottjl> http://www.easy2boot.com/
[22:33] <scottjl> works for me. and easier. install it to a drive. drop iso images in folders. boot OS of choice
[22:34] <scottjl> install from there
[22:34] <scottjl> new os? different version? copy iso onto drive. done.
[22:34] <DJFSDFJSDF> this is what is says when I try to format my encrypted drive: http://imgur.com/a/Kcb3p
[22:35] <DJFSDFJSDF> how can I fix this problem:http://imgur.com/a/Kcb3p
[22:35] <scottjl> you need to unlock the drive
[22:35] <scottjl> with whatever vendor utility locked it
[22:35] <\9> DJFSDFJSDF: "device or resource busy" means something else is using it
[22:36] <\9> make sure it's unmounted before formatting it
[22:36] <DJFSDFJSDF> how can I do that?; the thing is its already unlocked. The thing is I cannot read or write anything on it ¿Does someone know how to give me permissions to read and write data on it?
[22:36] <scottjl> you said it's encrypted, hardware encryption?
[22:36] <scottjl> can you write a new clean partition table to it?
[22:37] <scottjl> if you can't write a clean partition table to it. it's hardware locked/encrypted. you need to use a manufacturer utility to unlock i
[22:37] <compdoc> DJFSDFJSDF, d/l and boot gparted. you can change partition types and create or delete partitions. but, you should probably allow the ubuntu installer create new partitionsa
[22:37] <DJFSDFJSDF> I for got how to use it, but I think chown command will do the work to give me full access to the drive
[22:39] <compdoc> chown sets file premissions, but you are wanting the whole drive paritions, so its a waste of time
[22:39] <shalinsfinest> Good evening ladies & gentlemen
[22:40] <shalinsfinest> Anyone have any idea on how to get Hearthstone running in ubuntu?
[22:41] <scottjl> try wine?
[22:41] <mikey> nacc: are you there?
[22:41] <shalinsfinest> I tried but no joy :(
[22:41] <nicomachus> shalinsfinest: you can do it through PlayOnLinux with wine
[22:41] <scottjl> install windows into a vm?
[22:41] <shalinsfinest> dependencies issues
[22:42] <shalinsfinest> Oh VM?! Forgot about that
[22:42] <nicomachus> shalinsfinest: check out this response. It's 15.04 but should work.
[22:42] <nicomachus> https://askubuntu.com/questions/624916/hearthstone-ubuntu-15-04#624932
[22:42] <nicomachus> PlayOnLinux should resolve any dependency issues
[22:42] <DJFSDFJSDF> this is what it says when trying yo create or fomat the hdd drive : http://imgur.com/a/DXC5v
[22:42] <nacc> mikeymop: hey
[22:42] <shalinsfinest> Tnx Nocomachus
[22:42] <DJFSDFJSDF> ¿how can I fix this?
[22:42] <mikeymop> nacc: i tried following the ubuntu guide and still hit a roadblock
[22:42] <mikeymop> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/wordpress.html
[22:42] <mikeymop> is this the one you followed?
[22:42] <DJFSDFJSDF> guys?
[22:43] <scottjl> DJFSDFJSDF: some suggestions were offered. see if you can boot a gparted disk and re-partition your HD
[22:43] <compdoc> boot gparted, or boot the ubuntu desktop and run gparted there
[22:44] <DJFSDFJSDF> scottjl: im creating the partition how much must the minium size be?
[22:44] <scottjl> for the OS? 8g should be good. 16G better. or as much as you can spare
[22:45] <nacc> mikeymop: i didn't use it -- but i did the transition for php7 in ubuntu. mikeymop what is happening on your system?
[22:45] <DJFSDFJSDF> scottjl: the thing is I want to use this disk as an internal storage for my file not to boot the system
[22:45] <mikeymop> i fixed it, virtual hosts has a steeper learning curve than i thought
[22:46] <nacc> mikeymop: yeah, vhosts take a bit of getting used to, imo
[22:46] <nacc> mikeymop: but once you understand them, it's pretty nice
[22:46] <mikeymop> i set config-localhost.php for wordpress
[22:46] <mikeymop> but since i'm headless, I'm using lan ip
[22:46] <scottjl> DJFSDFJSDF: well whatever space you can spare
[22:47] <mikeymop> so it was looking for confif-[ip].php i'm trying to understand what setting changes that
[22:48] <mikeymop> i'm nervous for when i rsync all of this to my hosting provider
[22:48] <nacc> mikeymop: so you are working now or not?
[22:48] <nacc> mikeymop: as in, your site is working, i meant
[22:50] <mikeymop> nacc: yea it is
[22:50] <mikeymop> i try to do everything with my own variable to make sure i actually get it
[22:50] <mikeymop> had to rollback and stick to guide
[22:51] <mikeymop> is anyone here using dekko for mail?
[22:51] <mikeymop> nylas mail for linux is reaching vaporware status
[22:53] <OerHeks> decco mail is just a client, nylas an cloud service
[22:54] <klenzo> hola,  conocen un  canal para bajar libros en español?
[22:54] <k1l_> !es | klenzo
[22:55] <klenzo> gracias
[23:00] <shalinsfinest> Nice one got Hearthstone working!
[23:00] <shalinsfinest> Now I need to know how to get unlimited tethering on GiffGaff, any idea peoples?
[23:00] <shalinsfinest> lol
[23:01] <scottjl> now go spend all your $ on card packs!
[23:01] <shalinsfinest> na, lol, i dont buy packs, kills the fun
[23:01] <shalinsfinest> you play Scott?
[23:02] <scottjl> not any more. i kinda lost interest after naxx
[23:02] <shalinsfinest> Ah Naxx, my favourite exp.
[23:02] <scottjl> i couldn't keep up with all the expansions.
[23:03] <shalinsfinest> It's pretty good now, Mean streets of Gadgetzen is amazing
[23:03] <shalinsfinest> Yeah i kind of get fed up with too many expansions myself. You play wow?
[23:04] <scottjl> no
[23:04] <shalinsfinest> lol
[23:04] <scottjl> but i played MTG many many years ago
[23:04] <shalinsfinest> MTG?
[23:04] <bazhang> !ot | shalinsfinest
[23:05] <shalinsfinest> Oh sorry, didn't know
[23:06] <scottjl> *crickets*
[23:09] <compdoc> you can get those sprayed
[23:09] <mikeymop> how can I increase the filesize limit of the php plugin?
[23:11] <nacc> mikeymop: you mean the upload size?
[23:14] <nacc> mikeymop: it's in the php.ini iirc
[23:15] <S0bait> Hello, I have the ARM Ubuntu installed on my rapsberyr pi and wish to hold all kernel updates; as there was a bug recently. I found this command online, will this hold kernel udpates for Raspberry Pi 3 image as well?
[23:15] <S0bait> sudo apt-mark hold linux-raspi2 linux-image-raspi2 linux-headers-raspi2
[23:24] <S0bait> Also, why doesnt whoami work
[23:24] <rymax99> I'm experiencing very poor game performance on ubuntu with an AMD 6870 GPU, any tips on where to look for drivers that don't blow?
[23:24] <pavlos> whomai gives your username
[23:25] <bazhang> rymax99, what drivers are in use now
[23:26] <bazhang> rymax99, what game, and what constitutes good performance in your view
[23:26] <S0bait> pavlos: Right so I want a script to check if it is being run by the desired person. i have if [ $(whoami) != 'foo'] then;  but even when I run it as that user it says I am not.
[23:26] <rymax99> bazhang,   configuration: driver=radeon latency=0
[23:26] <rymax99>  
[23:26] <bazhang> rymax99, is that a newer card
[23:27] <rymax99> bazhang, CS:GO, 200 or so FPS on reasonable settings in Windows, now dropping to 30-40 a lot of the times even in 800x600 resolution
[23:27] <rymax99> (The hw's capable of playing the game at 1080p without any problems)
[23:27] <bazhang> rymax99, so newer card then
[23:27] <rymax99> bazhang, not a newer card, but a capable card for the game
[23:27] <Azulflame> rymax99: do you have the right drivers installed?
[23:27] <bazhang> !find amdgpu
[23:27] <nacc> S0bait: can you use a pastebin and pastebin the output of `whoami` and then `bash -x yourscript` ?
[23:28] <nacc> rymax99: what version of ubuntu?
[23:28] <rymax99> nacc, 16.04
[23:28] <nacc> rymax99: updated and hwe enabled?
[23:28] <nacc> !hwe | rymax99
[23:29] <nacc> rymax99: not saying it will help, but i wonder if it's newer hardware if you might not need the later x and kernel
[23:29] <Azulflame> Sorry if off-topic, but what would be the appropriate channel for help with a RPi CUPS printer having margin errors that are OS dependant?
[23:29] <nacc> rymax99: but even then, note that you probably will not match windows on FPS
[23:29] <rymax99> It's not newer hardware, it's a GPU from 09' iirc
[23:29] <nacc> !alis | Azulflame
[23:29] <rymax99> nacc, not looking to match it, but not even getting playable performance if I set resolution to something like 800x600
[23:30] <nacc> rymax99: ok
[23:30] <S0bait> I got it to work but it keeps saying i am not user 'foo' when i am user fo
[23:30] <nacc> S0bait: it's next to impossible to help you without what i asked for
[23:31] <pavlos> S0bait, replace single quotes with double, "foo" ... if [[ $(whoami) -eq "test" ]]; then
[23:31] <tgm4883> to be fair, foo  != fo
[23:31] <nacc> S0bait: and it's not whoami failing, to be clear, it's presumably your script
[23:31] <rymax99> nacc, that being said, since it is an older GPU(albeit not ancient) hwe isn't relevant, right?
[23:31] <nacc> rymax99: yeah, you're probably right
[23:32] <kv102t> anyone know how to ignoredisk from snmp.  have added line, but no dice
[23:32] <nacc> rymax99: i have heard, mostly in this channel, that there is a class of hardware that is only realy performantly supported by 14.04.5 (+hwe) -- since it was really flgrx that did (and amdgpu in-kernel is nowhere near there aiui)
[23:32] <patro> test
[23:34] <rymax99>  nacc any idea what hardware that was?
[23:35] <nacc> rymax99: no, it's mostly hearsay :) but i think it was a known choice in the amd decision to switch to amdgpu
[23:35] <nacc> rymax99: with the understanding that with time, admgpu would get better
[23:35] <nacc> radeon is the legacy driver right, bazhang ?
[23:36] <rymax99> nacc, :( so there's not much hope to get any decent performance in 16.04?
[23:36] <OerHeks> if your card is AMDgpu capable, it would have been loaded standard
[23:36] <nacc> rymax99: not saying that (yet) -- i'm not by any means a graphics expert, just relaying what i know
[23:36] <nacc> OerHeks: yep, that's my understanding too
[23:36] <bazhang> nacc, the amdgpu is for the select newere cards, probably not available for rymax99
[23:36] <nacc> bazhang: got it, thanks
[23:36] <k1l_> amd has a list "somewhere" what cards do work with the new amdgpu driver. but its fairly new cards only.
[23:37] <rymax99> yea doesn't sound like it'd apply to a 6870
[23:37] <nacc> I don't think the radeon driver was every particularly performant, but i'm not sure
[23:37] <k1l_> amd is known for dropping old cards very quick. but since amdgpu is now open source the community open source driver radeon will get a lot better
[23:37] <bazhang> I have the 290X something, and that just makes the cut, iirc
[23:38] <OerHeks> I use an ancient 5450, which plays 1080 fine, dual monitor too.
[23:41] <Exterminador> guys, somerhing is wrong: fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/anope/anope.git/': gnutls_handshake() failed: Error in the pull function.
[23:41] <Exterminador> what could be causing the issue?
[23:41] <Bashing-om> k1l_: rymax99 :?? http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx .
[23:42] <k1l_> Exterminador: that github repo is down. ask the maintainer of that software
[23:42] <Exterminador> k1l_: tks
[23:42] <Vysty> Hey! Anyone here use Kdenlive? I have a question specific to that.
[23:44] <Exterminador> k1l_: but we can still access via web to it?
[23:44] <k1l_> Bashing-om: iirc it was gcn2 got support. and maybe gcn1 (hd7700 and newer) will follow.
[23:45] <k1l_> Exterminador: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[23:45] <nacc> Exterminador: works fine here to clone that
[23:45] <Bashing-om> k1l_: Yeah. that is what I understand . Older cards do not have any love at this time .
[23:47] <Exterminador> Ubuntu 16.04
[23:47] <Exterminador> then maybe i messed up something
[23:47] <k1l_> Exterminador: all updates and -security updates installed?
[23:47] <Exterminador> i guess so
[23:47] <k1l_> Exterminador: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[23:48] <Exterminador> i've done apt update and says all packagea are up to date
[23:48] <Exterminador> all up to date
[23:48] <Exterminador> :/
[23:49] <Exterminador> even wget gives me segmentation fault
[23:49] <Exterminador> :x
[23:49] <nacc> uhhh
[23:49] <k1l_> ouch
[23:49] <nacc> Exterminador: `wget` giving you a segmentation fault is rathe serious
[23:50] <Exterminador> what can i do?
[23:50] <Exterminador> reinstall git and wget?
[23:50] <k1l_> did you manually change stuff?
[23:51] <Exterminador> i've changed machine hostname
[23:51] <Epx998> Is theree 'vdfuse' for Trusty?
[23:52] <Exterminador> dont remember any other mods
[23:52] <nacc> !info vdfuse trusty | Epx998
[23:52] <nacc> Epx998: is that a package name?
[23:52] <Epx998> yeah, wish i knew as to why
[23:52] <nacc> Epx998: there is no such ubuntu package period
[23:52] <Epx998> vdfuse, it was in precise then it vanished
[23:52] <nacc> Epx998: nope, not in precise either
[23:53] <nacc> !info vdfuse precise
[23:53] <Epx998> !info virtualbox-vdfuse
[23:53] <Epx998> !info virtualbox-vdfuse precise
[23:53] <Epx998> er
[23:54] <BlahBlahBlahBlah> !info virtualbox-fuse
[23:55] <BlahBlahBlahBlah> !info virtualbox-fuse precise
[23:55] <BlahBlahBlahBlah> Epx998: I think it's the name
[23:55] <Epx998> i cant find it for trusty
[23:56] <nacc>   * Drop the virtualbox-fuse package as vdfuse fails to build with
[23:56] <nacc>     virtualbox 4.2.
[23:56] <nacc> from 4.2.10-dfsg-1 in Debian
[23:56] <nacc> Epx998: there you go :)
[23:58] <Epx998> all good, was able to build it for 4.3 just now on trusty
[23:58] <nacc> Epx998: if it's still disabled in debian and does build aginst 5.1.14, may want to let them know
[23:59] <Exterminador> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24093208/