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* slangasek waves16:00
sil2100o/16:00
barry\o16:01
robruo~16:01
caribou~o16:01
tdaitx~o~16:01
slangasek#startmeeting16:02
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Mar  2 16:02:00 2017 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:02
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gaugheno/16:02
bdmurraythe anticipation is killing me16:02
bdmurraywhose on first?16:02
slangasek[TOPIC] Lightning round16:02
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox tdaitx xnox chiluk mwhudson)16:03
slangaseksil2100 tdaitx bdmurray infinity doko mwhudson barry slangasek cyphermox xnox caribou chiluk robru16:03
sil2100Oh my16:03
robruI win!16:03
gaughenyou won sil2100!16:03
sil2100- Sick for most of the week, Mon+Tue off, lower productivity16:03
sil2100- Landing team work, silo coordination16:03
sil2100- SRU reviews16:03
sil2100- Publishing kernel SRUs (f*cked up, those were marked as ready invalidly)16:03
sil2100- Looking at walinuxagent test results, minor tweaks in packaging16:03
sil2100- Looking into ubuntu-image changelog-for-PR functionality16:03
sil2100(done)16:03
tdaitx* Short week: holiday on Monday and Tuesday16:03
tdaitx= OpenJDK16:03
tdaitx  * Bug review/test (Debian: #850268, LP: #1314113, LP: #1255821, LP: #1548434, ...)16:03
tdaitx= Merges16:03
tdaitx  * open-vm-tools got merged while I was finishing it (investigating xml-security-c/xmlsec1 dependencies)16:03
tdaitx    - there were 2 open bugs for the merge, LP: #1651608 and LP: #166643016:03
ubottuDebian bug 850268 in src:openjdk-8 "Please stop using deprecated GNOME libraries (libgnome-2-0, libgnomevfs2-0, libgconf2-4)" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/85026816:03
tdaitx    - IIRC the former was set on merges ubuntu, now the later is16:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1314113 in openjdk-7 (Ubuntu) "TLS 1.1 and 1.2 are disabled by default" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131411316:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1255821 in openjdk-6 (Ubuntu) "A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment on start-up eclipse in ubuntu-13.04" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125582116:03
tdaitx    - created debian bug to Build-Depends on either libssl1.0-dev|libssl-dev (Debian: #856569) to make backporting easier16:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1548434 in openjdk-8 (Ubuntu) "jmap -heap broken since update to 7u95-2.6.4-0ubuntu0.14.04.1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154843416:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1666430 in open-vm-tools (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1651608 Please merge open-vm-tools 10.1.0-4449150-3ubuntu1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/166643016:03
tdaitx    - investigating whether xml-security-c can be replaced by xmlsec116:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1666430 in open-vm-tools (Ubuntu) "Please merge open-vm-tools 10.1.0-4449150-3ubuntu1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/166643016:03
tdaitx  * ncurses (ongoing, LP: #1637239)16:04
ubottuDebian bug 856569 in open-vm-tools "open-vm-tools: Depend on either libssl1.0-dev or libssl-dev" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/85656916:04
tdaitx= OpenJDK 7 (low priority)16:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1637239 in ncurses (Ubuntu) "Please merge ncurses 6.0+20160917-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163723916:04
tdaitx  * Retesting Mauve after discussion on its mailing list16:04
tdaitx= Other16:04
tdaitx  * Watched Cloud TH newest episode16:04
tdaitx  * Enjoyed Carnival holidays by setting up new router, organizing my NAS (movies and series), playing Quarriors and City of Horror with friends, all while missing the snow and cold+dry weather16:04
tdaitx(done)16:04
bdmurrayfixed additional issues with the retracers-cache-restart script16:04
bdmurraysubmitted RT to have retracer-charm updated in staging, production16:04
bdmurrayworked with webops regarding retracer memory upgrade16:04
bdmurrayautomated cassandra-querier reports, setup apache and vpn access16:04
bdmurraycreated snap daemon to clean up old crashes i.e. cronjob16:04
bdmurrayinvestigated some missing info in snap crashes16:04
bdmurrayadded outstanding unattended-upgrades MPs to zesty16:04
bdmurraysponsored wget patch for X for LP: #157330716:04
bdmurrayuploaded backuppc fix for X for LP: #161260016:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1573307 in wget (Ubuntu Xenial) "wget crashed with SIGSEGV in __memset_avx2()" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157330716:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1612600 in backuppc (Ubuntu Xenial) "backuppc 3.3.1-2ubuntu3 breaks pool graphs on the Status page" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161260016:04
bdmurraypatch piloting16:04
bdmurraymodified sru-report to show uploaders lp usernames16:04
bdmurraytested subiquity16:04
bdmurray✔ done16:04
gaughenthanks for testing bdmurray!16:04
infinity - Working on glibc for zesty16:05
infinity - Working on tzadata for $world16:05
infinity - Discussions with Steve about minimizing debootstrap set16:05
infinity - Emergency archive surgery to revert accidental kernel promotions16:05
infinity - Generic SRU/AA tasks16:05
infinity(done)16:05
slangaseksil2100: did invalid SRUs actually get published, then?16:05
sil2100Yes16:05
sil2100They did16:05
infinityYeah, I'm reverting the world now.16:05
doko- rustc updates for zesty (1.15.1)16:06
doko- rustc backports for trusty, xenial, yakkety (including cmake, binutils and llvm-3.9 backports)16:06
doko- boostrapping rustc for ppc64el trusty16:06
doko- binutils 2.28 release16:06
doko- packaging of the gcc-7 offload compilers16:06
doko- Debian bug squashing party at the weekend (in Berlin), meeting rustc maintainer16:06
doko- some merges16:06
doko- openjdk-9 update16:06
doko- binutils SRU (ppc64el)16:06
doko(done)16:06
barryi guess we still skip mwhudson16:06
sil2100That's a lesson for me trying to be over-helpful, but to my defence I must say that I have not known before that I am to double-check the sanity of what the kernel team's automation does16:06
barryu-i: LP: #1667140; LP: #1625732 (very close, but seeing a very weird difficult to debug failure - anybody wanna help?)16:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1667140 in Ubuntu Image "Change d/tests to use -O instead of -o" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/166714016:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1625732 in Ubuntu Image "Add DEP-8 image boot test" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162573216:07
barrydebuntu: alembic import into dpmt from openstack16:07
barryposted python2.7 regression information to python-dev for caribou16:07
barry--done--16:07
cariboubarry: thanks for that16:07
barrycaribou: np, there are some good thoughts on the mailing list you might want to follow up on16:07
cariboubarry: sure will16:08
barrythanks!16:08
chilukslangasek ?16:09
slangasek * cloud images16:10
slangasek * minimizing the smallest Ubuntu (LP: #1640878, LP: #1668847, et al.)16:10
slangasek * SRU processing16:10
slangasek * proposed-migration hinting/nudging16:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1640878 in grub2 (Ubuntu Xenial) "grub2 cannot currently generate configuration without initrd" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164087816:10
slangasek(done)16:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1668847 in live-build (Ubuntu Xenial) "live-build: handle downgrade of package priority in -updates pocket" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/166884716:10
slangasekcyphermox:16:10
cyphermoxyeah16:11
cyphermox- netplan:16:11
cyphermox  - adding missing STP support16:11
cyphermox  - fighting spurious autopkgtest failures16:11
cyphermox  - adding forward-declaration support (request from maas)16:11
cyphermox  - merge missing MTU support from rharper.16:11
cyphermox- subiquity:16:11
cyphermox  - snapping up subiquity16:11
cyphermox  - maas setup for rescue mode16:11
cyphermox- zesty:16:11
cyphermox  - looking at a grub fix for bad firmware behavior in some netboot cases16:11
cyphermox  - ubiquity slideshow update16:11
cyphermox- xenial SRUs16:11
cyphermoxturns out a desktop with only 4gb RAM tends to slow down when you run too many VMs on it16:11
cyphermox(done)16:11
xnoxzlib updates landed (after rebuilding/pushing through adt)16:11
xnoxlibodb everything verified and all SRUs landed16:11
xnoxfix failure to boot on a cloud16:11
xnoxreview cloud-init changes / scoping for another cloud16:11
xnoxtriange all outstanding s390x issues - no NEW bugs16:11
xnoxreturn to debugging bridge_role primary for bootstack16:11
xnoxtriange systemd issues - need to prepare an upload with a few bugfixes for zesty16:11
xnox..16:11
slangasekbdmurray: have you talked with the snappy team about whether they're going to be providing a systemd timers interface?16:11
caribouBugFix:16:12
caribouLP #1638695 : Python performance regression in Xenial16:12
caribou - Made analysis available, barry send email to python-dev ML16:12
caribou - Disabling LTO seems to improve things16:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1638695 in python2.7 (Ubuntu) "Python 2.7.12 performance regression" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/163869516:12
caribou - Running the benchmarks on another arch could be useful16:12
bdmurrayslangasek: nobody responded to me in #snappy16:12
slangasekooh and I need to look at the sru report to find out who's surprising on there16:12
slangasekbdmurray: hmm :/16:12
caribou LP #1654600 : unattended-upgrades breaks shutdown when /var is FS16:12
caribou - solution proposed in upstream Debian bug. Will upload to Z & SRU16:12
caribou - Identification slowed down by what might be another u-u bug16:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1654600 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "unattended-upgrade-shutdown hangs when /var is a separate filesystem" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/165460016:12
caribouDev:16:13
caribou Sosreport 3.3 trusty SRU16:13
caribou - Need to FFE for newer upstream release as sos 3.4 is coming shortly16:13
caribou☑ Done16:13
bdmurraycaribou: what other u-u bug?16:13
cariboubdmurray: UnattendedUpgrade::RunOnShutdown doesn't seem to work as the network is off by the time it runs16:13
slangaseksil2100: yeah, I don't double-check the bug tasks.. that's what their automation is supposed to handle16:13
chiluk* lp 1647389 - Finally got a smaller reproduction environment put together for this.  That allowed me to complete my bisection which was previously being held up by openstack not liking my constant replacing of qemu *(i.e. nova crashes, libvirt crashes, etc.).  Cherrypick of that patch does not apply cleanly, I'm proceeding to work through back-porting/figuring out if there are any other patches that need to be16:14
chilukbrought in.  I have a feeling there will be at least one more patch required before this is complete.  However, I finally see the light at the end of the tunnel on this one.16:14
chiluk* Recovered from a disk failure in my raid 5 *(which was also hosting the VM for the above reproducer).16:14
chiluk* DMB approved my core-dev application this week.  Thanks for that guys.16:14
chiluk- done -16:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1647389 in qemu (Ubuntu) "Regression: Live migrations can still crash after CVE-2016-5403 fix" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164738916:14
cariboubdmurray: unless I don't understand how it owrks16:14
robru* archive maintenance mentoring from cyphermox16:14
robrubritney16:14
robru* Email Policy, emails uploaders when package stuck in proposed (in review)16:14
robru* workaround for Source PPA Policy, groups migration of packages from same bileto ticket (needs review, bug #1648000)16:14
robru(done)16:14
ubottubug 1648000 in Launchpad itself "need API to discover where a given package is copied from" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/164800016:14
cariboubdmurray: I have yet to create the LP: bug16:15
bdmurrayrobru: what will happen with stuff already stuck in proposed? will we only get emails about new stickers?16:15
slangasekbdmurray: hmm I did merge your branch, right?  why does the sru report not look different16:16
robrubdmurray: the current code as written keeps a cache of what it has and hasn't emailed. the first run will see that it hasn't emailed anything and pump out a giant spam for everything that's been stuck for more than a day. after that it'll settle and only email new things that have been sitting for longer than a day.16:16
slangasekbdmurray: oh, it does look different, if I both reload and look at my screen16:17
bdmurrayslangasek: did you see the surprising results?16:17
slangasekbdmurray: do you mean init-system-helpers? :)16:18
bdmurrayslangasek: no, the number of things vorlon has unverified. ;-)16:18
slangasekoh are there a number of them?16:18
bdmurrayrobru: will there be an announcement before the spam event?16:18
slangasekguess I should do something about those16:18
bdmurrayotherwise somebody might nag you!16:19
slangasekwell I got the nag mail about init-system-helpers, that's why it's verified now ;)16:19
slangasekrobru: could you draft an announcement mail for us to send out before we merge the email policy and make it live?16:20
robruslangasek:16:21
robruslangasek: sure. will send to  you for approval16:21
bdmurrayrobru: Also will the roll-out be for every release of just zesty?16:21
slangasekrobru: can you stick it in a google doc so we can collaborate?16:22
robrubdmurray: it would be for all releases16:22
bdmurraycool16:23
robruslangasek: should I maybe make it so that it only emails packages that are 1 <= daysold <= 20 or something? to prevent emailing the dozens that are languishing for years?16:23
slangasekrobru: I think we are going to want to do a dry run and see who's getting emailed for what, before we decide; but my sense is that we don't want an upper cap16:24
slangasekanything else on status?16:24
robruslangasek: well going forward, all packages would be emailed the day they turn daysold 1. The upper cap would only affect packages that are *already* daysold > 116:24
slangasekyes16:25
slangasekand I think we do want to email the backlog16:25
robrualright16:26
robruslangasek: there's no way to do a dry run currently. should I add that?16:26
slangasekrobru: doesn't need merged, but at least for a one-off locally I think we want to see who it /would/ email for what16:27
slangasekrobru: anyway, we can discuss further outside the meeting16:27
slangasekmaybe in the MP :)16:27
slangasekanything else on status?16:27
robruslangasek: ok well for a one-off all you have to do is comment out the smtp.send_message and replace it with a self.log(...)16:27
slangasekright16:28
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB16:29
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB
slangasekanything else?16:29
cyphermoxI want more ram?16:29
infinityYou can't have more RAM.16:29
cyphermoxCanadaPost is slow.16:30
barryi might be sending a long-ish email about this autopkgtest failure i'm seeing.  thoughts, feedback would be very welcome ;)16:30
slangasekgoing once...16:32
slangasekgoing twice...16:32
slangasek#endmeeting16:32
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Mar  2 16:32:41 2017 UTC.16:32
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-03-02-16.02.moin.txt16:32
slangasekthanks, all!16:32
barrythanks!16:33
caribouthanks!16:35
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