[16:00]  * slangasek waves
[16:00] <sil2100> o/
[16:01] <barry> \o
[16:01] <robru> o~
[16:01] <caribou> ~o
[16:01] <tdaitx> ~o~
[16:02] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[16:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Mar  2 16:02:00 2017 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:02] <gaughen> o/
[16:02] <bdmurray> the anticipation is killing me
[16:02] <bdmurray> whose on first?
[16:02] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Lightning round
[16:03] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox tdaitx xnox chiluk mwhudson)
[16:03] <slangasek> sil2100 tdaitx bdmurray infinity doko mwhudson barry slangasek cyphermox xnox caribou chiluk robru
[16:03] <sil2100> Oh my
[16:03] <robru> I win!
[16:03] <gaughen> you won sil2100!
[16:03] <sil2100> - Sick for most of the week, Mon+Tue off, lower productivity
[16:03] <sil2100> - Landing team work, silo coordination
[16:03] <sil2100> - SRU reviews
[16:03] <sil2100> - Publishing kernel SRUs (f*cked up, those were marked as ready invalidly)
[16:03] <sil2100> - Looking at walinuxagent test results, minor tweaks in packaging
[16:03] <sil2100> - Looking into ubuntu-image changelog-for-PR functionality
[16:03] <sil2100> (done)
[16:03] <tdaitx> * Short week: holiday on Monday and Tuesday
[16:03] <tdaitx> = OpenJDK
[16:03] <tdaitx>   * Bug review/test (Debian: #850268, LP: #1314113, LP: #1255821, LP: #1548434, ...)
[16:03] <tdaitx> = Merges
[16:03] <tdaitx>   * open-vm-tools got merged while I was finishing it (investigating xml-security-c/xmlsec1 dependencies)
[16:03] <tdaitx>     - there were 2 open bugs for the merge, LP: #1651608 and LP: #1666430
[16:03] <tdaitx>     - IIRC the former was set on merges ubuntu, now the later is
[16:03] <tdaitx>     - created debian bug to Build-Depends on either libssl1.0-dev|libssl-dev (Debian: #856569) to make backporting easier
[16:03] <tdaitx>     - investigating whether xml-security-c can be replaced by xmlsec1
[16:04] <tdaitx>   * ncurses (ongoing, LP: #1637239)
[16:04] <tdaitx> = OpenJDK 7 (low priority)
[16:04] <tdaitx>   * Retesting Mauve after discussion on its mailing list
[16:04] <tdaitx> = Other
[16:04] <tdaitx>   * Watched Cloud TH newest episode
[16:04] <tdaitx>   * Enjoyed Carnival holidays by setting up new router, organizing my NAS (movies and series), playing Quarriors and City of Horror with friends, all while missing the snow and cold+dry weather
[16:04] <tdaitx> (done)
[16:04] <bdmurray> fixed additional issues with the retracers-cache-restart script
[16:04] <bdmurray> submitted RT to have retracer-charm updated in staging, production
[16:04] <bdmurray> worked with webops regarding retracer memory upgrade
[16:04] <bdmurray> automated cassandra-querier reports, setup apache and vpn access
[16:04] <bdmurray> created snap daemon to clean up old crashes i.e. cronjob
[16:04] <bdmurray> investigated some missing info in snap crashes
[16:04] <bdmurray> added outstanding unattended-upgrades MPs to zesty
[16:04] <bdmurray> sponsored wget patch for X for LP: #1573307
[16:04] <bdmurray> uploaded backuppc fix for X for LP: #1612600
[16:04] <bdmurray> patch piloting
[16:04] <bdmurray> modified sru-report to show uploaders lp usernames
[16:04] <bdmurray> tested subiquity
[16:04] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[16:04] <gaughen> thanks for testing bdmurray!
[16:05] <infinity>  - Working on glibc for zesty
[16:05] <infinity>  - Working on tzadata for $world
[16:05] <infinity>  - Discussions with Steve about minimizing debootstrap set
[16:05] <infinity>  - Emergency archive surgery to revert accidental kernel promotions
[16:05] <infinity>  - Generic SRU/AA tasks
[16:05] <infinity> (done)
[16:05] <slangasek> sil2100: did invalid SRUs actually get published, then?
[16:05] <sil2100> Yes
[16:05] <sil2100> They did
[16:05] <infinity> Yeah, I'm reverting the world now.
[16:06] <doko> - rustc updates for zesty (1.15.1)
[16:06] <doko> - rustc backports for trusty, xenial, yakkety (including cmake, binutils and llvm-3.9 backports)
[16:06] <doko> - boostrapping rustc for ppc64el trusty
[16:06] <doko> - binutils 2.28 release
[16:06] <doko> - packaging of the gcc-7 offload compilers
[16:06] <doko> - Debian bug squashing party at the weekend (in Berlin), meeting rustc maintainer
[16:06] <doko> - some merges
[16:06] <doko> - openjdk-9 update
[16:06] <doko> - binutils SRU (ppc64el)
[16:06] <doko> (done)
[16:06] <barry> i guess we still skip mwhudson
[16:06] <sil2100> That's a lesson for me trying to be over-helpful, but to my defence I must say that I have not known before that I am to double-check the sanity of what the kernel team's automation does
[16:06] <barry> u-i: LP: #1667140; LP: #1625732 (very close, but seeing a very weird difficult to debug failure - anybody wanna help?)
[16:07] <barry> debuntu: alembic import into dpmt from openstack
[16:07] <barry> posted python2.7 regression information to python-dev for caribou
[16:07] <barry> --done--
[16:07] <caribou> barry: thanks for that
[16:07] <barry> caribou: np, there are some good thoughts on the mailing list you might want to follow up on
[16:08] <caribou> barry: sure will
[16:08] <barry> thanks!
[16:09] <chiluk> slangasek ?
[16:10] <slangasek>  * cloud images
[16:10] <slangasek>  * minimizing the smallest Ubuntu (LP: #1640878, LP: #1668847, et al.)
[16:10] <slangasek>  * SRU processing
[16:10] <slangasek>  * proposed-migration hinting/nudging
[16:10] <slangasek> (done)
[16:10] <slangasek> cyphermox:
[16:11] <cyphermox> yeah
[16:11] <cyphermox> - netplan:
[16:11] <cyphermox>   - adding missing STP support
[16:11] <cyphermox>   - fighting spurious autopkgtest failures
[16:11] <cyphermox>   - adding forward-declaration support (request from maas)
[16:11] <cyphermox>   - merge missing MTU support from rharper.
[16:11] <cyphermox> - subiquity:
[16:11] <cyphermox>   - snapping up subiquity
[16:11] <cyphermox>   - maas setup for rescue mode
[16:11] <cyphermox> - zesty:
[16:11] <cyphermox>   - looking at a grub fix for bad firmware behavior in some netboot cases
[16:11] <cyphermox>   - ubiquity slideshow update
[16:11] <cyphermox> - xenial SRUs
[16:11] <cyphermox> turns out a desktop with only 4gb RAM tends to slow down when you run too many VMs on it
[16:11] <cyphermox> (done)
[16:11] <xnox> zlib updates landed (after rebuilding/pushing through adt)
[16:11] <xnox> libodb everything verified and all SRUs landed
[16:11] <xnox> fix failure to boot on a cloud
[16:11] <xnox> review cloud-init changes / scoping for another cloud
[16:11] <xnox> triange all outstanding s390x issues - no NEW bugs
[16:11] <xnox> return to debugging bridge_role primary for bootstack
[16:11] <xnox> triange systemd issues - need to prepare an upload with a few bugfixes for zesty
[16:11] <xnox> ..
[16:11] <slangasek> bdmurray: have you talked with the snappy team about whether they're going to be providing a systemd timers interface?
[16:12] <caribou> BugFix:
[16:12] <caribou> LP #1638695 : Python performance regression in Xenial
[16:12] <caribou>  - Made analysis available, barry send email to python-dev ML
[16:12] <caribou>  - Disabling LTO seems to improve things
[16:12] <caribou>  - Running the benchmarks on another arch could be useful
[16:12] <bdmurray> slangasek: nobody responded to me in #snappy
[16:12] <slangasek> ooh and I need to look at the sru report to find out who's surprising on there
[16:12] <slangasek> bdmurray: hmm :/
[16:12] <caribou>  LP #1654600 : unattended-upgrades breaks shutdown when /var is FS
[16:12] <caribou>  - solution proposed in upstream Debian bug. Will upload to Z & SRU
[16:12] <caribou>  - Identification slowed down by what might be another u-u bug
[16:13] <caribou> Dev:
[16:13] <caribou>  Sosreport 3.3 trusty SRU
[16:13] <caribou>  - Need to FFE for newer upstream release as sos 3.4 is coming shortly
[16:13] <caribou> ☑ Done
[16:13] <bdmurray> caribou: what other u-u bug?
[16:13] <caribou> bdmurray: UnattendedUpgrade::RunOnShutdown doesn't seem to work as the network is off by the time it runs
[16:13] <slangasek> sil2100: yeah, I don't double-check the bug tasks.. that's what their automation is supposed to handle
[16:14] <chiluk> * lp 1647389 - Finally got a smaller reproduction environment put together for this.  That allowed me to complete my bisection which was previously being held up by openstack not liking my constant replacing of qemu *(i.e. nova crashes, libvirt crashes, etc.).  Cherrypick of that patch does not apply cleanly, I'm proceeding to work through back-porting/figuring out if there are any other patches that need to be
[16:14] <chiluk> brought in.  I have a feeling there will be at least one more patch required before this is complete.  However, I finally see the light at the end of the tunnel on this one.
[16:14] <chiluk> * Recovered from a disk failure in my raid 5 *(which was also hosting the VM for the above reproducer).
[16:14] <chiluk> * DMB approved my core-dev application this week.  Thanks for that guys.
[16:14] <chiluk> - done -
[16:14] <caribou> bdmurray: unless I don't understand how it owrks
[16:14] <robru> * archive maintenance mentoring from cyphermox
[16:14] <robru> britney
[16:14] <robru> * Email Policy, emails uploaders when package stuck in proposed (in review)
[16:14] <robru> * workaround for Source PPA Policy, groups migration of packages from same bileto ticket (needs review, bug #1648000)
[16:14] <robru> (done)
[16:15] <caribou> bdmurray: I have yet to create the LP: bug
[16:15] <bdmurray> robru: what will happen with stuff already stuck in proposed? will we only get emails about new stickers?
[16:16] <slangasek> bdmurray: hmm I did merge your branch, right?  why does the sru report not look different
[16:16] <robru> bdmurray: the current code as written keeps a cache of what it has and hasn't emailed. the first run will see that it hasn't emailed anything and pump out a giant spam for everything that's been stuck for more than a day. after that it'll settle and only email new things that have been sitting for longer than a day.
[16:17] <slangasek> bdmurray: oh, it does look different, if I both reload and look at my screen
[16:17] <bdmurray> slangasek: did you see the surprising results?
[16:18] <slangasek> bdmurray: do you mean init-system-helpers? :)
[16:18] <bdmurray> slangasek: no, the number of things vorlon has unverified. ;-)
[16:18] <slangasek> oh are there a number of them?
[16:18] <bdmurray> robru: will there be an announcement before the spam event?
[16:18] <slangasek> guess I should do something about those
[16:19] <bdmurray> otherwise somebody might nag you!
[16:19] <slangasek> well I got the nag mail about init-system-helpers, that's why it's verified now ;)
[16:20] <slangasek> robru: could you draft an announcement mail for us to send out before we merge the email policy and make it live?
[16:21] <robru> slangasek:
[16:21] <robru> slangasek: sure. will send to  you for approval
[16:21] <bdmurray> robru: Also will the roll-out be for every release of just zesty?
[16:22] <slangasek> robru: can you stick it in a google doc so we can collaborate?
[16:22] <robru> bdmurray: it would be for all releases
[16:23] <bdmurray> cool
[16:23] <robru> slangasek: should I maybe make it so that it only emails packages that are 1 <= daysold <= 20 or something? to prevent emailing the dozens that are languishing for years?
[16:24] <slangasek> robru: I think we are going to want to do a dry run and see who's getting emailed for what, before we decide; but my sense is that we don't want an upper cap
[16:24] <slangasek> anything else on status?
[16:24] <robru> slangasek: well going forward, all packages would be emailed the day they turn daysold 1. The upper cap would only affect packages that are *already* daysold > 1
[16:25] <slangasek> yes
[16:25] <slangasek> and I think we do want to email the backlog
[16:26] <robru> alright
[16:26] <robru> slangasek: there's no way to do a dry run currently. should I add that?
[16:27] <slangasek> robru: doesn't need merged, but at least for a one-off locally I think we want to see who it /would/ email for what
[16:27] <slangasek> robru: anyway, we can discuss further outside the meeting
[16:27] <slangasek> maybe in the MP :)
[16:27] <slangasek> anything else on status?
[16:27] <robru> slangasek: ok well for a one-off all you have to do is comment out the smtp.send_message and replace it with a self.log(...)
[16:28] <slangasek> right
[16:29] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[16:29] <slangasek> anything else?
[16:29] <cyphermox> I want more ram?
[16:29] <infinity> You can't have more RAM.
[16:30] <cyphermox> CanadaPost is slow.
[16:30] <barry> i might be sending a long-ish email about this autopkgtest failure i'm seeing.  thoughts, feedback would be very welcome ;)
[16:32] <slangasek> going once...
[16:32] <slangasek> going twice...
[16:32] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[16:32] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Mar  2 16:32:41 2017 UTC.
[16:32] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-03-02-16.02.moin.txt
[16:32] <slangasek> thanks, all!
[16:33] <barry> thanks!
[16:35] <caribou> thanks!