[03:37] <ball> Mornin'
[03:39] <daftykins> \o
[03:39] <daftykins> how goes it, sir?
[03:41] <ball> Not bad thanks. How about you?
[03:49] <daftykins> yeah not too shabby... slow progress on my bathroom water leak insurance job though - awaiting quotes for the work right now
[03:51] <ball> hello ubot9
[03:51] <ball> Ugh.  Plumbing is high on the list of things I don't enjoy.
[03:52] <ball> (especially when it fails)
[04:46] <daftykins> oops didn't realise i never responded!
[04:46] <ball> That's ok
[04:46] <daftykins> yep don't mind the fix, but the hoop jumping is taking so long
[04:47] <daftykins> been without a shower for must be 5 weeks now too
[04:47] <daftykins> sole facilities in the place, so i have to go elsewhere
[05:02] <ball> Sounds inconvenient.
[05:05]  * ball downloads Ubuntu Server 16.04.2
[05:06] <daftykins> :)
[05:06] <daftykins> i always stuck to the vanilla images myself so i didn't get an HWE kernel
[05:07] <daftykins> well, 16.04.1 stuck to the original too
[05:08] <ball> I don't know what an HWE is.
[05:08] <ball> ...but I'm sort of new to Linux.
[05:09] <ball> (I say "sort of" because the first time I installed it, Linux came on a stack of 5.25" 1200K floppies.
[05:09] <daftykins> ah in ubuntu, let's say an LTS release is a year in or so, the newer kernel and X stack in the newer release gets backported as a hardware enablement stack
[05:09] <daftykins> !hwe
[05:10] <daftykins> :D how many of said floppies?
[05:10] <ball> I honestly don't remember.  I do remember having to bolt a new floppy drive into my boss' desktop PC.
[05:10] <ball> (his existing drive was 360K)
[05:11] <daftykins> daym
[05:11] <daftykins> one of these days when my folks tidy the house up a bit more, the Apple II will need a test run - if any floppies can be found
[05:18] <ball> Someone recycled mine some years ago.
[05:33] <daftykins> a crime!
[05:34] <ball> I was quite disappointed at the time but I'm over it now.
[05:35] <daftykins> mmm that's the thing, there's a limit to the fond memories really
[05:35] <daftykins> we had some apricot 486's as kids, but the main ones CMOS battery had died and i don't even know how to configure a SCSI controller card by hand in such an ancient system
[05:35] <daftykins> so seeing it boot again could well take some hours of work
[05:36] <ball> Apricot built some lovely hardware back in the day.
[05:38] <daftykins> the machine in question originally had tapes of 10MB for a 'hard disk' that inserted on the front, but the drive died after a while so my dad got the local company to throw in the SCSI solution
[05:38] <daftykins> also had a second one that was floppy drive only :) good memories of Lemmings 1 etc
[05:40] <daftykins> right best sleep, ta-ra \o
[05:42] <ball> Sleep well!
[07:33] <knightwise> morning peeps
[08:04] <diplo> Morning all
[08:41] <knightwise> morning
[08:42] <SuperMatt> g'day
[09:03] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:04] <davmor2> isn't it a sign popey isn't here with how deathly quiet it is
[09:13] <popey> lies
[09:15] <davmor2> morning popey how's your feet?
[09:17] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:29] <davmor2> 469.98 for an i7 laptop with 8gb what's the catch there then
[09:38] <diplo> Prices are coming down ? :)
[09:41] <brobostigon> thats basiclly almost all my monthly wage gone right there, if i were to buy that, :(
[09:47] <foobarry> the catch is that when the battery dies, you'll have to throw it away
[09:47] <foobarry> and hardly anything is upgradeable
[09:50]  * brobostigon holds up his nexus 4.
[09:55] <Guest34673> Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy World Book Day! 😃 🕮
[10:59] <diddledan> davmor2: that laptop even has an SSD
[11:07] <TwistedLucidity> What make? (I check the IRC log, didn't see it mentioned)
[11:09] <diddledan> TwistedLucidity: HP
[11:09] <diddledan> TwistedLucidity: it's a special offer on ebuyer
[11:10] <TwistedLucidity> Ah, prolly old gen. Still, a decent deal at that price I guess.
[11:10] <diddledan> it's a 6000series intel i6
[11:10] <diddledan> i7
[11:10] <diddledan> i.e. skylake
[11:11] <TwistedLucidity> Still better than my T430. :-)
[11:26] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCWn_zANcLo (there's swearing)
[11:26] <davmor2> diddledan: for the price it is a ridiculous spec
[11:30] <knightwise> Yo peeps
[11:45] <diddledan> my gosh, buffy turns 20 this month. facebook is littered with posts telling me
[11:53] <diddledan> I wonder if anyone is working on fixing the vulnerability(ies) in encfs?
[11:54] <diddledan> (it warns you when you install it and asks if you really want it on ubuntu)
[17:02] <mretomo> #undernet
[17:03] <mretomo> chanel list
[17:04] <mretomo> [#undernet]
[17:22] <popey> davmor2: they ache
[17:23] <davmor2> popey: no really I've no idea why it's not like you've been stood around all day for 3 days straight right?
[19:32] <foobarry> diddledan: encfs is bad?
[19:33] <diddledan> foobarry: according to the dialog when you apt install it
[19:37] <foobarry> http://askubuntu.com/questions/813290/encfs-insecure-what-to-use-now
[19:42] <diddledan> yeah those responses just repeat the same as the dialog
[19:42] <diddledan> I already knew all that
[19:43] <DJones> foobarry: diddledan: There are bugs in Linux.....uh oh, I was more concerned that popey was being replaced by a robot https://insights.ubuntu.com/wp-content/uploads/3047/Robot.png :)
[19:44] <DJones> Certanly wouldn't do the RAT again good
[19:44] <DJones> s/again/any/
[19:47] <davmor2> DJones: I don't know might make a great waiter
[19:48] <DJones> davmor2: Yeah, still waiting for the coffee I ordered 9 hours ago......
[19:50] <foobarry> diddledan: i didn't :( sad now
[19:51] <foobarry> i am using encfs is certain situations
[19:52] <diddledan> lol: https://twitter.com/CiPHPerCoder/status/837390104805195777
[19:54] <davmor2> diddledan: that would be funny if it wasn't so true
[19:55] <foobarry> handy site: https://decentsecurity.com/#/malware-web-and-phishing-investigation/
[19:55] <zmoylan-pi> no one is to hack yahoo until i blow this whistle even and i want to make this absolutely clear even if they hate marissa myers
[22:31] <diddledan> so dedupe is the opposite of redundancy? </troll> :-p
[22:31]  * diddledan accidentally hacks yahoo despite zmoylan-pi 's instructions
[22:32] <zmoylan-pi> i thought it was the lite version of rm
[22:32]  * zmoylan-pi blows whistle to indicate a penalty against diddledan and causes a few yahoo servers to crash...
[22:33] <ali1234> did something happen with yahoo today?
[22:33] <ali1234> or just in general?
[22:33] <diddledan> just in general I think
[22:34] <zmoylan-pi> in last few days i think there was another hack
[22:34] <diddledan> lol @ fakequote: https://twitter.com/delrayser/status/837430019752284161
[22:36] <zmoylan-pi> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/02/yahoo_internal_hack_investigation_is_daming_marissa_mayer_loses/
[22:41] <diddledan> wow
[22:41] <diddledan> that's damning
[22:58] <diddledan> re-rendering in HD of a 13second DS9 battle scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEUG_ibsZck
[23:00] <zmoylan-pi> i think in last 2 seasons of ds9 they had to move to cgi for effects iirc
[23:01] <zmoylan-pi> it was a pity they ignored ds9 when it came to making movies. best of the trek franchises to my mind
[23:04] <diddledan> it's difficult to keep coming-up with stories for a static point-in-space rather than a ship that can move - the reason DS9 and B5 were good series is because they had a long-running story rather than being truly episodic
[23:05] <diddledan> movies tend to be episodic so you have a start middle and end in every movie. more difficult to have long-running stories
[23:07] <zmoylan-pi> could easily have been what happened to garak when he got back home...
[23:09] <zmoylan-pi> they could even have done what babylon5 did with made for tv movies for their few spin off movies
[23:20] <diddledan> the S3 failure on tuesday was PEBKAC: https://aws.amazon.com/message/41926/
[23:23] <zmoylan-pi> time to update their linkedin profile... :-P
[23:23] <diddledan> their solution is an "are you sure?" prompt
[23:24] <diddledan> $ kill-all-servers -y # -y bypasses the prompt because we all know that typing -y on the commandline is instinctive and truly reflects our intentinos
[23:24] <zmoylan-pi> so pipe y into the prompt...
[23:31] <zmoylan-pi> imagine the damage a disgruntled/off balance worker could do if they set out to maximise the damage
[23:35] <diddledan> noisy washing machine! >.<
[23:35] <diddledan> I think I must be keeping the neighbours awake
[23:37] <zmoylan-pi> i only do my laundry between 1100-2000 to avoid annoying neighbours
[23:40] <diddledan> sounds like it's done now
[23:41]  * zmoylan-pi moseys off for shower...