[00:35] <mate|43047> hello everyone! i am using Ubuntu Mate on an almost 12 year-old notebook. Is there any thing that i can do to turn Ubuntu Mate a little bit smoothier for my old friend here?
[00:45] <jb_> bsr
[00:46] <jb_> salut
[03:44] <Guest5199> Hi. Dropbox won't connect after initial installation, Caja and Nautalis. This is for both of the ubuntu mates 16... It work fine with linux mint on the same machine..
[03:46] <Guest5199> It says it can't Caja has a restart spashscreen, the other a configure proxy flag. Can anyone help me. Please:-)
[03:47] <Guest5199> I guess I better identify faster next time.
[07:13] <vlt> Good morning! On Ubuntu 16.04 MATE every user gets an (annoying) notification whenever someone (else) prints something. How can we disable this?
[13:50] <ergosomnic> What's the reason for using Caja rather than Nemo?  Nemo SEEMS to have more features and integration.
[13:58] <ali1234> nemo is from cinnamon project
[13:58] <ali1234> caja is from mate project
[14:16] <noah_> hey
[14:26] <ergosomnic> I understand that nemo is cinnamon, but if it is "better" then shouldn't Mate adopt it? Is there a technical reason for maintaining a inveterate, but possible inferior project?
[14:27] <ergosomnic> s/inveterate/seperate/
[14:27] <ergosomnic> stupid spel-chek
[14:27] <alkisg> mate is not a distribution to go around and collect unrelated software
[14:28] <alkisg> It has software that is inside its own codebase
[14:28] <alkisg> What if they want to apply a theme or a patch and nemo doesn't accept it upstream? They keep maintaining a fork?
[15:04] <vlt> Hello! On Ubuntu 16.04 MATE every user gets an (annoying) notification from CUPS(?) whenever someone (else) prints something. How can we disable this without disabling the whole notification framework?
[15:08] <wmueller> Hello: I just upgaded my RPI 3 to 16.04.2 and now the chromium browser is crashing, actually the extensions a re crashing , has anyone else seen this and is there a fix or work around for it?? thanks.
[16:56] <tewlah> hi, is it possible to change the Ctrl-Alt-T shortcut to a different terminal other than MATE-terminal?
[17:57] <john69> hello... just installed Ubuntu mate on my thinkPad T410
[17:58] <Akuli> nice :)
[17:58] <john69> when i close the lid the main screen doesn't switch to my external monitor
[17:58] <Akuli> i like thinkpads, cheap and good computers
[17:58] <Akuli> what do you want it to be like when the lid is open?
[17:58] <john69> my laptop screen stays main screen
[17:58] <Akuli> so when lid is open you want and have both screens
[17:59] <john69> i want to just use my external monitor... not the latop screen
[17:59] <Akuli> and when lid is closed you have both screens even though you dont want the laptop screen?
[17:59] <Akuli> ok
[17:59] <Azulflame> john, check the actions in Control Center > Power Management > and then both on AC and battery
[17:59] <john69> ok... lemme take a look
[18:00] <Azulflame> for what you want, I think you need to have the external monitor already used, then select "do nothing" for the "When laptop lid is closed" option
[18:01] <john69> ok... right now it says to suspend
[18:01] <Azulflame> change and test?
[18:02] <ouroumov_> In the display settings you can kill your built in screen btw.
[18:02] <ouroumov_> And set witch screen to use as main screen.
[18:02] <Azulflame> I wasn't sure if "Blank Screen" would blank the internal screen or all connected screens
[18:02] <john69> thanks... for the pointers... just new getting around this version on ubuntu
[18:03] <john69> had "normal" 16.04 installed for a month...
[18:03] <Azulflame> and ouroumov_ I'm not seeing that option in my displays menu
[18:03] <john69> and it just "worked" out of the box
[18:04] <john69> hmmmm...
[18:04] <Azulflame> then it's definitly possible, but MATE may not default to the same settings
[18:04] <john69> closing the laptop lid does nothing
[18:04] <Akuli> i guess you could get the default settings from a "normal" ubuntu and put them in ubuntu mate
[18:04] <Azulflame> so if you are unlucky, then you may have to dick around in the terminal and X server settings to get it how you want
[18:04] <Akuli> if nothing else works
[18:05] <Azulflame> Also, if you are going to distro-hop like you insinuated, then I'd recommend making another partition (/dev/sdaX) and mount it to /home so that if you install a new version, you can keep your files
[18:05] <john69> oy vay... X server settings... ;)
[18:06] <john69> ok... if i have too... :-)
[18:06] <Akuli> https://xkcd.com/963/
[18:06] <Akuli> lol
[18:07] <Azulflame> If I wanted to be a moderate dick to a guy (reasons withheld), would dd if=/dev/zero of=<link to xorg.conf> do what I think it does?
[18:07] <Azulflame> or would it write zeros until the end of the hard drive
[18:08] <Azulflame> ?
[18:08] <Akuli> or you know, $ rm xorg.conf && touch xorg.conf
[18:08] <Akuli> yes it would write zeros until end of hard drive
[18:08] <Akuli> /dev/null represents emptiness, use that
[18:08] <Akuli> also supports writing, the writes simply go nowhere :)
[18:08] <Akuli> $ echo hi > /dev/null
[18:08] <john69> um yeah... not TOUCHING that "dd" command...
[18:09] <Azulflame> yea john69, dd is a fickle beast
[18:09] <Akuli> well not much different from cp
[18:09] <Akuli> kind of like cp except that doesn't delete destinations and displays nice stats when its done
[18:09] <Azulflame> it's just bit operations instead of file operations
[18:09] <Akuli> well no, the two are the same thing
[18:09] <Azulflame> you don't run "cp /dev/random /dev/sda"
[18:10] <Akuli> well, you can
[18:10] <Akuli> it works
[18:10] <Azulflame> well there's an idea
[18:10] <Azulflame> Now I have to close a VM
[18:10] <Azulflame> brb
[18:11] <john69> ok guys (or gals)... have fun "geeking out" i'm gonna reboot and see what my setting changes bring me...
[18:11] <john69> thanks for the help!
[18:11] <Akuli> john69, just log out and back in
[18:11] <Akuli> if you didn't enter your password anywhere that does the same thing as rebooting
[18:12] <john69> thanks
[18:12] <Azulflame> will a logout refresh the X server configs, if they only logout to lightdm?
[18:14] <Akuli> if lightdm does something weird with this (i doubt it) then we can stop and restart it
[18:14] <Akuli> i use my systems without a login manager so i don't know
[18:14] <Azulflame> I'm pretty sure that Ubuntu Mate uses LightDM by default
[18:15] <Akuli> yes it does, but i haven't felt like needing it for a while
[18:15] <Azulflame> pacman -S toilet
[18:15] <Azulflame> ignore that
[18:16] <Akuli> that happens to me all the time
[18:17] <Azulflame> IRC, VM, and Terminal all running at the same time
[18:17] <Azulflame> the biggest problem is that I thought I was in Terminal, and I'm running Ubuntu, not Arch
[19:16] <frsync> hello
[23:41] <nomic> z.