[00:13] <WebDevB> Could anyone help with this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/42568194/fresh-lamp-setup-old-cakephp
[02:52] <drab> lol, spent the entire day on it without making the connection...
[02:53] <drab> stgraber: thank you so much for writing that series of posts, they have been basically the best ref for lxd so far
[03:02] <drab> on that page I linked earlier it says that nesting is not supported on ZFS, but to run Docker inside a container it says it needs nesting. Does it mean no docker in lxc on zfs?
[03:04] <sarnold> what storage engines does docker do these days? can you do "plain old dumb directory" thing? that might work
[03:04] <sarnold> or does it only have fancier things like zfs and overlay?
[03:05] <drab> the problem isn't docker tho, the rpoblem seems to be my requirement to use ZFS as a backend and that backend not supporting nesting
[03:06] <drab> altho I guess I could carve out an exception, ie a partition on the disk, and convert that to lvm or something and start the container for docker stuff there, but it's not very practical
[03:06] <sarnold> I really hope we get zfs delegated authority sometime soon. that'd be so much omre convenient..
[03:06] <drab> in any case, this lxc stuff is pure gold, I wish I had got on it a while back, would have saved me a lot of time over virtualbox, altho tbh it hasn't been that bad with snapshots
[03:07] <drab> sarnold: it'd be good to also get the ability to restore to any wanted snap, that seems also not possible according to that page
[03:07] <drab> ie can only restore from last snap, which I don't get why, but maybe I shoud just try it :)
[03:07] <drab> the other thing I haven't figure out is this macvlan business
[03:08] <drab> it works, but I can't ping the host, which is expected. I read you can also put the host on a macvlan, but haven't figured out how
[03:08] <drab> and some macvlan tutorials talk about creating a macvlan interface on the host as if it was a bridge, but lxc works already with it and no such interface was created
[03:08] <sarnold> drab: that's a surprising limitation of zfs -- you have to destroy the other snaps in order to get to the older one... I've never tried, but it might work, to clone the older snap and use that instead.
[03:09] <drab> yeah, I'll test, I'm still new to both things
[03:09] <drab> it just seemde to be the right tech to invest on to rebuild this VM host / NAS
[03:09] <drab> and so far I'm hella pleased with the results
[03:09] <drab> these are really just minor inconveniences that can be worked around
[03:10] <drab> mainly need to figure out the macvlan stuff and backups, apparently sending zfs snapshots won't work
[03:10] <drab> but not too sure, haven't read/experimented with that part yet, just seen some blog posts floating around about it
[03:10] <drab> bbl
[03:13] <sarnold> drab: have you seen this yet? https://pthree.org/2012/12/04/zfs-administration-part-i-vdevs/
[09:40] <Genk1> Hello
[09:40] <Genk1> Is it normal to have one root password for each server ?
[09:42] <Genk1> I want to manage my servers via software provisioning system but they seems to only  adhere to the idea of 1 password for all servers
[10:03] <ronator> hi. how come systemd has different proc names then 'ps'? I was looking for php-fpm, but only systemctl told true proc name php-fpm7.1 - 'ps -aux' shows different names? is that supposed to be normal? what's the replacement to 'ps' though since I cant rely on the names it outputs ...
[10:04] <ronator> ps aux | grep php-fpm -> "php-fpm: pool www"
[10:04] <ronator> but with sysctl ->  Main PID: 828 (php-fpm7.1)
[10:04] <ronator> systemctl sry
[10:32] <zioproto> zul: are you here ?
[10:38] <jamespage> zioproto: you're a bit early for him right now - he's based in canada
[11:50] <zioproto> :)
[12:50] <zul> zioproto: here now
[12:50] <zioproto> hello zul
[12:50] <zul> zioproto: whats up
[12:51] <zioproto> the nova xenial packages
[12:51] <zioproto> 13.1.3
[12:51] <zioproto> are out ?
[12:51] <zul> nope not yet....they still need to be accepted by the SRU team
[12:51] <zioproto> ok
[12:51] <zioproto> there is a queue in launchpad to monitor ?
[12:53] <zul> zioproto: not that i know of
[12:55] <frickler> zioproto: zul: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=
[12:55] <zul> frickler: thanks
[13:50] <zul> coreycb: huh? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1669766
[13:51] <coreycb> i assume he's missing an apt update
[14:11] <mandrake> buona sera
[14:11] <mandrake> !list
[14:54] <iGeni> how do i auto start /usr/local/bin/supervisord -n -c /etc/supervisord.conf  with ubuntu 16.
[14:55] <iGeni> i made a file in /lib/systemd/system named systemd-supervisord.service  with content https://dpaste.de/Ji9X
[14:55] <iGeni> but that aint working
[14:56] <coreycb> beisner, pyeclib and liberasurecode1 are ready to promote from newton-proposed -> newton-updates
[14:59] <iGeni> also tried as supervisord.service
[15:56] <sonu_nk>  hi i am facing issue with roundcube. https://paste.ubuntu.com/24102633/
[15:56] <sonu_nk> dpkg: error processing package roundcube (--configure):
[16:00] <sonu_nk> hi i want to install mail server on my ubutnu 16
[16:00] <sonu_nk> and need you help
[16:02] <compdoc> an entire mail server? or do you just need to send some notices?
[16:03] <sonu_nk> compdoc: entire email server...
[16:03] <sonu_nk> compdoc: can you help me in this insallation?
[16:05] <compdoc> I use a distro thats ready made, and run it as a kvm guest. You probably want sendmail to install on ubuntu
[16:05] <sonu_nk> first i need to install postfix...
[16:05] <sonu_nk> right
[16:05] <compdoc> err, postfix - yess
[16:07] <frickler> zul: can you also add horizon to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ceilometer/+bug/1664306 for completeness? I saw that you created a new build and pushed to yakkety already
[16:09] <zul> frickler:done
[16:28] <drab> sarnold: yep, thanks, that was pretty much my intro to zfs
[16:28] <drab> one of the best guides I found
[16:29] <drab> sarnold: the other one that's really good, as an intro, is from freenas: https://forums.freenas.org/index.php?threads/slideshow-explaining-vdev-zpool-zil-and-l2arc-for-noobs.7775/
[16:29] <drab> it has *a lot* of good stuff in it, and not just theory, lots of practical stuff from direct experience
[16:30] <drab> unfortnuately in neither I see an answer to my questions ;)