[00:00] <alien__> everything crashes
[00:00] <iresf> and i want to know is there additional driver to install in guest based on kvm   ?
[00:00] <k1l> alien__: we can only hepl to fix specific issues. if you just want to rant this is the wrong place
[00:01] <alien__> Mozilla only open а процесора ми вече е на 100%
[00:01] <Zythyr> Need help with Ubuntu 16 LTS. I am using fbi (framebuffer image viwer) to display an PNG image in fullscreen mode. This command displays the image in full screne mode to /dev/fb0 or a device I select. When using generic drivers (Nouveau), I already have a /dev/fb0 device and fbi command works fine. HOwever, when I installed Nvidia drivers (v340), the /dev/fb0 device is no longer present. Thus
[00:01] <Zythyr> when I use the fbi command to display an image to framebuffer, I get error that /dev/fb0 device not found.
[00:01] <alien__> and processor it is already on 100%
[00:03] <alien__> Just suggest something lighter
[00:03] <k1l> firefox is not very light
[00:04] <iresf> i want to know is there additional driver to install in guest based on kvm   ?
[00:04] <alien__> I spent many years with 11.10 and worked perfectly
[00:04] <k1l> alien__: if that is the hardware you still use then you want to use Lubuntu
[00:06] <alien__> geForce GT630
[00:06] <Bashing-om> alien__: 12.04 ++ (u)buntu requires significant resources to operate at an acceptable level . Ya got the hosses ? What shows ' free -m ' with your nornal apps running ?
[00:06] <alien__> 4 Gb ram
[00:06] <alien__> its bad?
[00:06] <k1l> no
[00:07] <alien__> versioned something in which I pull up to now
[00:08] <alien__> not working
[00:08] <alien__> excuse my bad English
[00:08] <k1l> alien__: i dont understand what your issue now is. maybe there is another channel with your native language that can help you better
[00:08] <alien__> I am from Bulgaria
[00:09] <k1l> !bg
[00:10] <alien__> thanks
[00:12] <alien__> I had to marry for Nixie Pixel
[00:12] <alien__> :D
[00:13] <Epx998> if I have a HD that is not being detected during a pxe boot - whats the best way to determine which driver i may need to load ?
[00:18] <tgm4883> iresf: you mean like how vmware  has guest tools?
[00:19] <iresf> tgm4883 : yes
[00:19] <tivopin> Stupid amerikan vote trump a Russian spy
[00:19] <tgm4883> iresf: if your guest is windows, there are additional drivers you can install
[00:20] <k1l> tivopin: this channel is only for technical ubuntu support. not any political statements.
[00:20] <tgm4883> iresf: if you're guest is windows, I generally grab and mount the ISO from here and then install the drivers via the device manager  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Windows_Virtio_Drivers
[00:20] <iresf> tgm4883 : my guest is kali linux
[00:21] <tgm4883> iresf: ah, then I don't think any additional drivers are necessary
[00:27] <Zythyr> Need help. I am running Ubuntu 16 LTS. I connected a monitor which has a low resolution which only supports 1280x800 or 912x1140. When I use this monitor, I end up getting stuck at a black screen and unable to boot into Ubunut.
[00:28] <iresf> tgm4883 : but it is not fullscreen
[00:28] <iresf> i want it to be fullscreen
[00:29] <tgm4883> iresf: have you tried changing the resolution?
[00:32] <Al3xG0> how to solve problem http://image.prntscr.com/image/d56070acac964970809a7284df348700.png
[00:34] <k1l> Al3xG0: windows doesnt clean shutdown. boot to windows and set it not to use "fast reboot" setting for that hdd
[00:35] <tepas> hola
[00:36] <tepas> soy nuevo en este sistema  he usado wifislax y kali
[00:36] <pavlos> !es | tepas
[00:36] <k1l> tepas: for kali support ask #kali-linux
[00:38] <tivopin> You lied
[00:38] <tm_> I have installed Ubuntu on my desktop, but it is not finding the wifi, so I am trying to connect via usb wifi (Realtek). I have a driver folder with different files. How do I install it?
[00:39] <k1l> Al3xG0: you can try to run "sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdb2" but this is your own risk then
[00:42] <Al3xG0> k1l what select dir mount?
[00:42] <Al3xG0> is possible?
[00:44] <k1l> Al3xG0: i dont understand what you mean
[01:08] <Bashing-om> !ping
[01:20] <jiejweejwe> guys how are you?, can someone help me to fix this error?
[01:20] <jiejweejwe> http://pastebin.com/90aC27DQ
[01:20] <jiejweejwe> ¿How can I fix it?
[01:24] <Aurorasaura> I just want to clarify.. adding a hard drive to a lvm wont affect any data currently on the lvm right?
[01:25] <tesla__> hello
[01:26] <tesla__> Someone can help me?
[01:26] <Bashing-om> jiejweejwe: What results - If ya have networking presently - from ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure network-manager-gnome ' ?
[01:27] <Bashing-om> !ask | tesla__
[01:27] <tesla__> Hello there, im new using this irc, someone can help me haha?
[01:27] <jiejweejwe> Bashing-om: Im trying to install a VPN and I cant
[01:27] <jiejweejwe> Bashim-om when trying to install, it says what the pastebin link says
[01:28] <Bashing-om> jiejweejwe: Sorry - not - I have no VPN current experience - I do not know how networking is set up .
[01:28] <Herdo> Does #ubuntu-beginners still exist?
[01:29] <Bashing-om> Herdo: Here works for all levels of experience :)
[01:30] <Herdo> Bashing-om ok thanks
[01:31] <tesla__> Someone can help me? hahah
[01:31] <Bashing-om> Herdo: Just ask .. or lurk and see what you pick up .
[01:31] <tesla__> i feel a little weird using this
[01:31] <tesla__> just how i can use this irc
[01:32] <Bashing-om> tesla__: Just ask a question that is topical for the channel .. some one will answer .
[01:33] <Epx998> if I add a driver to my initrd.gz for a kickstart, is there a way to verify the module was loaded?
[01:33] <tesla__> Why linux?
[01:34] <dimisdas> I think tesla's having fun
[01:34] <tesla__> no fun, just asking cuz im new using linux
[01:34] <tesla__> so i want to know all the things good, to use linux
[01:36] <Bashing-om> tesla__: Linux, because it works .. and millions of great progammers make sure it does . Free as in beer !
[01:36] <anonymous9083092> what?
[01:38] <goldfinger> Free as in open
[01:42] <jiejweejwe> guys Im having problems almost every time I want to install a program
[01:42] <jiejweejwe> ¿How can I check the sources of information are the correct ones?.
[01:44] <Bashing-om> jiejweejwe: Do you have connectivity ' ping -c3 8.8.8.8 ; ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' ?
[01:44] <jiejweejwe> Bashing-om: let me check
[01:45] <jiejweejwe> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/TbSy78hh
[01:45] <Epx998> do harddrives generally need a driver if not detected on a install?  other harddrives work
[01:45] <dimisdas> Are you IRCing through said machine?
[01:45] <dimisdas> jiejweejwe:
[01:45] <Bashing-om> Epx998: What is required is a file system of some type on the hard drive to be detected .
[01:46] <jiejweejwe> dimnisdas: what do you mean?
[01:46] <fishcooker> how to paste image here?
[01:47] <jiejweejwe> imgur
[01:47] <kk4ewt> you put it on an imagebin and paste the url here
[01:47] <Bashing-om> fishcooker: You know you do not paste into here . use a pastebin site.
[01:47] <Bashing-om> !paste ! fishcooker
[01:47] <Bashing-om> !paste | fishcooker
[01:48] <Epx998> Bashing-om, i tried megaraid but that didnt work
[01:48] <jiejweejwe> Bashing-om: can you help me? http://pastebin.com/TbSy78hh
[01:49] <Bashing-om> jiejweejwe: That do say you can talk to the net . so again - what is the particular issue you are experiencing ?
[01:51] <Bashing-om> Epx998: ' sudo parted -l ' in a pastebin site - let's see what you are working with .
[01:53] <jiejweejwe> Bashing-om: for example every time I log into my user I get the warning that the system has an error. This happens all the time and I have already updated my system several time, with Ubuntu Software manager and also the typical command "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[01:53] <Epx998> Bashing-om: I am working on a kickstart, the ubuntu-installer is not detecting the drive.  Trying different modules to see if any will work - so there is no parted command atm
[01:54] <Bashing-om> jiejweejwe: File system errors ?? Then ya need to run fsck on the file system .
[01:54] <Bashing-om> Epx998: Nope never messed about to this time with kickstart in linux . No help here on that .
[01:54] <tgm4883> jiejweejwe: it would help if you could paste the error information somewhere
[01:56] <jiejweejwe> Bashing-om: one common error that happens all the time is that Mozilla and Thunderbird crashes
[01:56] <jiejweejwe> Bashing-om: I dont know wht
[01:58] <Bashing-om> jiejweejwe: Remains - too vague to make an opinion . Run a file system check just on general principles ?
[01:59] <jiejweejwe> Bashing-om: Yes sorry, Im new. ¿How can I check this file system check?. I'll do it inmediatly
[02:00] <Epx998> should fdisk -l see all drives seen by the bios, regardless if there is a driver module loaded for it or not?
[02:01] <Bashing-om> jiejweejwe: Boot a liveDVD and show us ' sudo parted -l ' so we identify what the system partition(s) are .
[02:02] <Bashing-om> Hinsbart: ^^ a liveDVD such that the target is not mounted . can not run a file system check while the system is in use .
[02:06] <jiejweejwe> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/gSD3tg3r
[02:06] <jiejweejwe> Bashing-om: can it be a live usb drive?
[02:08] <Bashing-om> jiejweejwe: Look'n .. and yes a USB will do nicely also .
[02:09] <jiejweejwe> Bashing-om: ok. Is it 100% necessary to obtain the output from a live medium?. Im doing a lot of things now on the pc :) lol
[02:11] <Bashing-om> jiejweejwe: No, not to look .. but if one were to "fix" then yes worl from another source . In your present case " Error: /dev/mapper/sda3_crypt: unrecognised disk label " I do not know how to help as I have no encryption experience .
[02:11] <jiejweejwe> Bashing-om :( Can you take a guess on how to fix it?. Im more interested on fixing the Mozilla and Thunderbird problem which crashes regularly
[02:13] <Bashing-om> jiejweejwe: Fixing swap will in all likely hood fix Mozilla and T-bird . As both require a lot of resources .. these might require access to swap to work .
[02:14] <jiejweejwe> Bashing-om: How can I do this? ¿Can I eliminate SWAP? so the problem is gone forever?
[02:14] <Bashing-om> jiejweejwe: As I saud . no encryption experience . can not further advise .
[02:14] <Bashing-om> said**
[02:16] <jiejweejwe> Bashing-om: ok :( ¿Any forum where I can ask this? or maybe apply the solution of an un-encrypted disk
[02:16] <jiejweejwe> Bashing-om. it should be the same
[02:20] <Bashing-om> jiejweejwe: Wait here -- others here do have some experience with encryption - . but that does have a level of difficulty that in somne cases can not be overcome . Encryption is the nature of that beast .
[02:21] <jiejweejwe> Bashing-om: I understand can you hook me up with some of those guys? I'll really appreciate it because aparte of probably solving my problem I would learn from them
[02:22] <Bashing-om> jiejweejwe: Sorry, I have no interest in ncrytion, and do not know that those I consoert with do either . Wait here and see if these postings get picked up from one who does know .
[02:23] <jiejweejwe> Bashing-om: ok no problem, thank you very much for your gelp :)!
[02:23] <jiejweejwe> Bashing-om:*help
[02:24] <Bashing-om> jiejweejwe: We have come a ways . we now know where the problem lies .  Just no known fix for it :)
[02:24] <jiejweejwe> Bashing-om: ;)
[02:32] <Aurorasaura> I just want to clarify.. adding a hard drive to a lvm wont affect any data currently on the lvm right?
[02:32] <Aurorasaura> Sorry I asked this before but had to run to the store
[02:43] <plgos> hello
[02:44] <rangergord> Hi. I'm on 16.04 desktop. I have a program that won't run unless I use the --disable-gpu parameter. I want to add this program in a shortcut on the Unity Launcher (left-side vertical bar). What is the way to create a launcher? What I tried: 1) Right-clicking in the Launcher does nothing. 2) Searching the main menu for "launcher", "shortcut", etc returns no results. 3) Running the app from the
[02:44] <rangergord> CLI, then right-clicking it in the Launcher and saying "lock to launcher", does not work, because the next time the app is launched, the parameters are ignored. 4) There is no way to edit a locked launcher's parameters.
[02:44] <rangergord> 5) The wiki's information is out of date, and the instructions there don't work
[02:45] <rangergord> come on Linux why are things this way in 2016 :(
[02:46] <blackman2> expelled something like 200 times through history, but it's never the fault of the jew bankers (laugh).
[02:47] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/unity-launcher-intro.html
[02:47] <rangergord> thanks, reading now
[02:47] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[02:48] <Spark> hi, i did apt-get upgrade and now i hear no sound through my speakers.  the sound config looks good though http://pastebin.com/Fnv7zUcv
[02:48] <OerHeks> same info as 2016
[02:48] <Spark> any idea how to debug this?
[02:48] <rangergord> OerHeks: regarding the 1st link, none of the guides are about how to add parameters to the command. I'll check out the 2nd link now.
[02:49] <OerHeks> create your own launcher, in your /home/ or systemwide..
[02:50] <dimisdas> Spark: Active Port: analog-output-headphones
[02:50] <dimisdas> Spark: are you listening through headphones jack?
[02:51] <Spark> hmm i'm not sure
[02:51] <Spark> i'll try some other jacks though
[02:52] <bandit22> why and where is ubuntu retrieving files from when installing?
[02:52] <bandit22> what happens if you tell it to skip
[02:52] <Spark> dimisdas: can you change hte port with pactl too?
[02:53] <Spark> ah it's pacmd
[02:53] <rangergord> OerHeks: I created a myapp.desktop file that runs "/usr/bin/code --disable-gpu", put it in ~/.local/share/application/myapp.desktop (where I see other .desktop files), logged out, logged back in, it doesn't appear.
[02:54] <rangergord> OerHeks: I didn't have an icon to use though, so I deleted the Icon entry. I'll try again with an icon copied from a different launcher.
[02:54] <Bashing-om> !repository | bandit22
[02:55] <dimisdas> Spark: your configuration is for alsa not pulse audio right?
[02:56] <Spark> i dunno it's the default
[02:56] <bandit22> why is every thing not on DVD?
[02:56] <Spark> i don't use gnome, if that's relevant
[02:56] <Spark> i tried pacmd set-sink port for both available ports, but i didn't get sound on either.  I did get a click in the headphones as i switched though, so something's plumbed in
[02:57] <rangergord> OerHeks: none of those instructions worked.
[02:57] <dimisdas> Spark: the configuration you linked is for Alsa. You can control it with alsa-mixer. Pulseaudio is different software
[02:57] <dimisdas> Spark: which ubuntu/Linux flavour are you using?
[02:57] <rangergord> OerHeks: I followed the examples to the letter: http://pastebin.com/raw/1XnzFsE4
[02:58] <Spark> yakkety
[02:59] <rangergord> Isn't this a pretty typical task for a user? I mean Windows had this in Win95, didn't they? And past Unity releases had it, since the (out of date) wiki says to right-click a launcher entry to edit it.
[02:59] <Spark> dimisdas: i put it in one of the ports at the back and it worked...
[02:59] <dimisdas> Spark: yay
[03:00] <Spark> line out port it was
[03:00] <Countess_Bathory> rangergord, maybe you can do one to suit your needs,  example for making a chromium link:  echo 'chromium-browser --incognito' > /home/user/chromium.sh ; chmod +x /home/user/chromium.sh   hope that helps =)
[03:01] <rangergord> I thought of launching a custom script, but when I came here I was hoping for the "correct way" which would end up with the correct application icon. But it doesn't seem like Unity supports this directly, so I'll go the custom script way. Thanks.
[03:02] <rangergord> Should I be reporting these 2 issuse on the Unity bug tracker? 1) No way for user to customize locked entry, 2) .desktop files don't work, or their doc is incorrect, or it's too hard to mess up?
[03:02] <Countess_Bathory> give it a custom icon ,  open it , right click lock to launcher ?
[03:04] <Spark> dimisdas: i just adjusted the volume and it's gone dead again :(
[03:04] <Spark> on both ports
[03:04] <dimisdas> Use alsa-mixer
[03:04] <dimisdas> To change port
[03:05] <Spark> you mean alsamixer?
[03:05] <rangergord> Countess_Bathory: I can't do that, it locks the code executable, without the script's parameters. And I can't click and drag the sh file to the Launcher.
[03:05] <dimisdas> Yup
[03:06] <rangergord> Countess_Bathory: I can't "Make Link" then drag the link to the Launcher either
[03:06] <Spark> it doesn't seem to be available anymore
[03:06] <Spark> there is alsamixergui, but that only knows about pulseaudio
[03:06] <tgm4883> rangergord: have you tried adding it (the script you make) to the desktop file?
[03:07] <rangergord> tgm4883: no, I'll try now.
[03:07] <Spark> dcunnin@expensive:~$ alsamixer
[03:07] <Spark> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[03:07] <Spark> there i have it, but it doesn't work :)
[03:08] <Spark> i do have files in /dev/snd/ though
[03:08] <rangergord> tgm4883: doesn't work.
[03:09] <tgm4883> rangergord: what part doesn't work?
[03:09] <rangergord> tgm4883: the .desktop file doesn't appear in the launcher
[03:09] <Spark> alsamixer -c 1 worked
[03:09] <rangergord> http://pastebin.com/raw/yFwVHXsN
[03:10] <tgm4883> rangergord: can you paste the code in your.... you're ahead of me :)
[03:10] <Spark> yeah it works now... heh
[03:10] <Spark> pulseaudio was failing at controlling the alsa mixer i guess
[03:11] <tgm4883> rangergord: did you really name your user, user1?
[03:11] <rangergord> tgm4883: yeah, it's just a VM so I don't make it personal :P
[03:11] <dimisdas> Spark: if it happens again try deleting asound.conf (backup first) and restarting
[03:11] <Spark> thanks for your help
[03:12] <tgm4883> rangergord: did you run desktop-file-validate against it? Because I did and it threw some errors
[03:12] <rangergord> tgm4883: no I did not. trying now.
[03:12] <rangergord> aaah wait
[03:13] <rangergord> I see the issue. The .desktop file doesn't add it to the launcher, it adds it to the searchable menu. So if I search for "vscode", it shows up.
[03:14] <rangergord> but I can't lock that resulting script to the launcher
[03:14] <tgm4883> rangergord: ah yea
[03:14] <rangergord> it locks the actual application only
[03:14] <rangergord> which then runs without the necessary parameter (--disable-gpu)
[03:14] <tgm4883> rangergord: well at this point I'd look and see what the actual vscode desktop file looks like, copy that into your directory and then alter it a bit
[03:14] <rangergord> so the thing to do now, is figuring out what files "lock to launcher" modifies, to be able to do that for my script, not just the application itself
[03:15] <tgm4883> rangergord: or fall back to instead of calling the script to call the actual executable again with the argument
[03:15] <tgm4883> rangergord: unfortunatly I don't run Unity anymore, so I can't help much further
[03:17] <rangergord> tgm4883: I stopped a few years ago, but came back recently, figured it would have become more usable. Instead they removed even more customization options :/
[03:17] <rangergord> this is literally the first Unity flavor I run in 4 years. I went to Mint, then Xubuntu, then Ubuntu MATE, then KDE Neon
[03:17] <tgm4883> rangergord: most work is happening in Unity 8, Unity 7 is in maintenance mode
[03:18] <rangergord> tgm4883: hopefully 2018.04 is the year of a desktop Ubuntu power users like
[03:18] <Countess_Bathory> if link is put on the desktop it retains parameters , unlike the launcher
[03:19] <roliz> help i am having issues with with ubuntu studio
[03:20] <roliz> it is not connnecting to wifi
[03:21] <roliz> i  have tried going to additional drivers but it is not using them
[03:21] <rangergord> Countess_Bathory: that's the final solution then, it works. Editing the actual code.desktop file in /usr/share/applications, then locking that to the launcher. Personally I don't see how it's any different from my custom .desktop file, but oh well.
[03:22] <roliz> ok i will try thanks :{
[03:22] <rangergord> are either of you running Unity 8? does it let you customize launcher entries, without having to resort to editing files in /usr/share/applications?
[03:24] <Countess_Bathory> nope, have not used/tried Unity 8
[03:24] <sousousou_> hi
[03:27] <sousousou> hi
[03:29] <tesla_> hi
[03:30] <plgos> jello
[03:30] <sousousou> How to use this
[03:34] <Aurorasaura> Use what sousousou ?
[03:34] <sousousou> rhis irc
[03:34] <tesla_> i dont know how to use this
[03:34] <Aurorasaura> I have no idea what irc your using.
[03:34] <tesla_> and i dont know how to use linux hahaha
[03:34] <sousousou> me too
[03:35] <sousousou> hahaha
[03:35] <BurtReynolds> is there a sleeptimer built into ubuntu?
[03:35] <BurtReynolds> I want something that can shutdown my web browser after like 2-3 hours, just not the entire computer via shutdown command
[03:38] <sousousou> http://www.linuxidc.com/Linux/2011-01/31026.htm  for  sleeptimer
[03:41] <MrRB> sair
[03:46] <Zythyr> Can someone please help me. I am running Ubuntu 16 LTS. I installed Nvidia drivers using "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current". It installed v304. The issue now is that I don't have a /dev/fb0 device. How can I determine what is my framebuffer device?
[03:49] <BWestOz> Is it possible to make a copy of a web site using wget --mirror. I tried it and it sort of worked but some of the links don't work.
[03:49] <Bashing-om> Zythyr: nvidia-current is the 304 version driver that might not be correct for your card . What card ' lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA ' and we see if we can match a driver .
[03:53] <Zythyr> Bashing-om It says I have NVIDIA Corporation ION VGA
[03:54] <Bashing-om> Zythyr: Pastebin that entire output . so I get the "number" .
[03:58] <rangergord> is it possible to make running apps in the left-side launcher stand out more than unopened ones? that little arrow and a tiny change in brightness is not enough of a visual indication. I'd like a more obvious contrast, like much darker icons for unopened apps. I looked at Unity Tweak Tool, there's no setting for this.
[03:58] <Zythyr> Bashing-om pastebin.com/R6x81Mnu
[04:00] <vers> yo
[04:02] <Bashing-om> Zythyr: Well, that does not tell me what I need to know . Let's try - lspci -k|grep -iEA5 'vga|3d' - see if that gives me the number .
[04:05] <Zythyr> Bashing-om http://pastebin.com/vSRQQaxZ
[04:06] <Zythyr> Bashing-om This is the system where I installed Ubuntu 16 LTS on: http://www.viewsonic.com/us/vot132-vot132-1-19f01591b6ca3ba03f1aedc8db12cdb9.html
[04:11] <Bashing-om> Zythyr: Still scratching my head .. gimme a bit .
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> Zythyr: is your system up to dat to 16.04.2?
[04:12] <Zythyr> lotuspsychje Yes, it is 16.06.2
[04:12] <Zythyr> Bashing-om What exactly are we looking for?
[04:14] <Zythyr> The reason I installed Nvidia drivers is because if I use the generic open source drivers, I am unable to boot into the OS. I get stuck at a black screen. This occurs when I use a projector (monitor) with a low resolution that supports two modes: 912x1140 or 1280x800. If I use a regular monitor, it boots fine.
[04:14] <Bashing-om> Zythyr: lotuspsychje As a newer hardware - sure that the 340 driver is not correct . Might just purge the present driver and have the system "autoinstall" and see what the sytem installs for a graphic's driver ??
[04:14] <Zythyr> However, it is crucial for me to have the framebuffer device /dev/fb0. After installing Nvidia drivers, I can properly boots, but I can't find the /dev/fb0 device
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> Zythyr: wich driver versions show up at your additional drivers?
[04:16] <Bashing-om> Zythyr: My "number" >> NVIDIA Corporation GK208 [GeForce GT 710B] .. that GT 710 is a number of reference .
[04:17] <Zythyr> Additional drivers give me three options: 304, 340, and open source
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> Zythyr: did you test them all?
[04:19] <Zythyr> lotuspsychje By default opensource drivers were installed in which I have /dev/fb0, however I have booting issues with my low resolution projector. I tested both 304 and 340 which fixed booting inssues but there is no /dev/fb0. I do see /dev/nvidia0
[04:19] <Zythyr> According to this and the device id the Nvidia ion could be GeForce 9400?? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23214
[04:20] <strones> aarontc, https://youtu.be/Sz2mgIhGtgs
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> Zythyr: its possible you might need a latest driver from the ubuntu driver ppa
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> Zythyr: also secureboot can be a problem with nvidia cards, you know ifits enabled or not?
[04:23] <Zythyr> What is ifits
[04:24] <Zythyr> lotuspsychje How do I install the latest driver from ubuntu ppa?
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> Zythyr: if it is enabled
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> Zythyr: http://askubuntu.com/questions/760934/graphics-issues-after-while-installing-ubuntu-16-04-16-10-with-nvidia-graphics
[04:26] <Zythyr> lotuspsychje Should I do sudo apt-get install nvidia-340??.
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> Zythyr: no, you already tested the 340 you say and doesnt fix right?
[04:29] <Zythyr> So then what do I test next? Do I install using "sudo apt-get install nvidia-current"?
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> Zythyr: no current isnt active anymore, try that askubuntu step, where they add the ubuntu graphics ppa
[04:30] <Zythyr> I added the pppa
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> Zythyr: check additional drivers wich ones show up now
[04:32] <Zythyr> Ohh okay. Let me check that. Also, I think to check this in the Ubuntu Software GUI app?
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> Zythyr: no, drivers are managed by installing the terminal way, or via additional drivers
[04:35] <Zythyr> What command do I n eed to use to see additional drivers
[04:35] <Zythyr> Sorry I am a noob
[04:37] <Allen_Oaks> SUP BITCHES
[04:37] <Allen_Oaks> BAN ME!!!
[04:37] <Allen_Oaks> IM DOPE
[04:37] <Allen_Oaks> don't you love ubuntu.
[04:37] <Allen_Oaks> time for some real love.
[04:37] <Allen_Oaks> I love the hardware support anyone else
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> Zythyr: software and sources/additional drivers
[04:37] <Allen_Oaks> Allen_Oaks time to remember...
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> Allen_Oaks: stop that please
[04:37] <Allen_Oaks> Sources, drivers.. who cares... ubuntu rules!
[04:38] <Allen_Oaks> ubuntu beats windows!
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Allen_Oaks bad news
[04:38] <Allen_Oaks> I've got windows VM's running under ubuntu!
[04:38] <Allen_Oaks> banning me?
[04:38] <Allen_Oaks> just to cool for school...
[04:38] <Bashing-om> Zythyr: lotuspsychje I stand corrected : http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html says the 340 version is correct .
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: perhaps the 340 is built corectly and secureboot could be the boot issue?
[04:41] <acidchild> good evening. I am using the mainline kernel 4.10.1. I am unable to build the virtualbox dkms module. Does anyone have any insight? http://pastebin.com/jqXiuqf3 contains the errors, build version and currently installed packages.
[04:44] <RonWhoCares> k1l: Another question: the Swap used is at 366; The 'Free' mem is at 793.  Why is the 'swap' being used right now
[04:47] <Zythyr> lotuspsychje Bashing-om Under Ubuntu Software > Softarwe & Updates >> Additional Drivers I see three options 1) Nvidia 340 2) Nvidia 304, and 3) Nouveau.
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> Zythyr: still the same as default, adding the ppa should give you more
[04:50] <Zythyr> I added the ppa, but I still don't see more
[04:50] <Zythyr> Using this guide, I checked to see if i installed using UEFI method. However my installation is in Legacy mode https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[04:51] <Bashing-om> Zythyr: I find it hard to accept that a system that supports Win7 has such an old generation video card as I apparently find . This may well be beyond my pay grade .
[04:52] <Zythyr> I still am confused. The 340 drivers are installed perfectly fine. The only issue is I don't know how to get the /dev/fb0 device.
[04:54] <Zythyr> The reason why I need the /dev/fb0 device is because I am using a program called fbi (framebuffer image viewer) to display PNG images in full screen mode. This program askes me to select my framebuffer device (by default /dev/fb0). But I don't have /dev/fb0 so it gives me error. I don't know what other device to select
[04:55] <Ben64> Zythyr: why are you trying to use the framebuffer and nvidia?
[04:58] <Zythyr> I have a projector (mointor) which will connected to the Ubuntu. I want to display images in fullscreen mode for 3d printing application. So I am using the fbi (framebuffer image viewer) sofwtare. The reason I hadd to intall nvidia drivers is because if I use the generic drivers (nouveau), I can't boot into the desktop. I get stuck at blackscreen. The reason for this is because the project
[04:58] <Zythyr> supports only two low resolution display: 912x1140 and 1280x800. WHen I connect a regular high resolution mointor it boots perfectly fine. Thus I need to install nvidia driver to get Ubuntu to boot properly when connected to the projector
[04:58] <Ben64> desktop or framebuffer, pick one
[04:58] <Zythyr> Ben64 What do u mean
[04:58] <Ben64> exactly what i said
[04:59] <Bashing-om> Zythyr: Looking at my log file . the target appears to be " (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev " .
[04:59] <Zythyr> Ben64 Are you suggesting I should boot directly to console instead of desktop gui?
[04:59] <Ben64> if you need framebuffer yes
[05:00] <Ben64> but i don't see why you actually need framebuffer
[05:00] <Zythyr> Bashing-om Log file of waht are you looking at?
[05:01] <Zythyr> Ben64 I need framebuffer becasue the fbi program dispaly my desired PNG to framebuffer: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/fbi.1.html
[05:01] <Ben64> so use a different program
[05:01] <Zythyr> Don't have any other option than using fbi
[05:01] <Bashing-om> Zythyr: /var/log/Xorg.0.log .
[05:01] <Ben64> Zythyr: you have a desktop, you have tons of choices
[05:02] <Ben64> why use one of the only programs that doesn't work for what you want?
[05:02] <Zythyr> Bashing-om I don't have /dev/fbdev.
[05:02] <Zythyr> Ben64 Other alternate programs also utilize framebuffer
[05:03] <Ben64> framebuffer isn't what you want
[05:03] <Ben64> i don't know why you think it is
[05:03] <Bashing-om> Zythyr: Affirmed .. me neither .,.. why I went looking for a different target . /dev/fb0 does not exist .
[05:05] <Zythyr> Bashing-om Even my log says "(EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory"
[05:06] <Zythyr> Ben64 Then how to acheive what I am trying to do? My end goal is 3d printing. Framebuffer is fastest way to load/display image?
[05:06] <Ben64> no
[05:07] <Ben64> i don't see how displaying an image = 3d printing but theres all sorts of programs that display images
[05:07] <Ben64> eog, display, pqiv, etc
[05:15] <Necy> Hey. i bought a new dell laptop. I put the kubuntu disc in select start kubuntu, splash screen with logo, and then goes to a black screen which it has been on for a while. help?
[05:16] <Necy> the model was on the ubuntu page as supportive
[05:17] <Bashing-om> !nomedeset | Necy
[05:17] <wafflejock> Bashing-om, med
[05:17] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | Necy
[05:18] <Bashing-om> wafflejock: :) // look trice then "do it " :)
[05:19] <wafflejock> heh yup
[05:19] <wafflejock> just don't rm -rf something like the poor guys at gitlab or do whatever AWS did the other day that broke the internet
[05:22] <Bashing-om> wafflejock: Uh HuH ! .. Them be lessons on what NOT to do .
[05:22] <yos_sarian> Hi.
[05:23] <millz> hi
[05:23] <yos_sarian> Does anyone know how to efectively install ibus-pinyin in ubntu 16.04 ? I am trying to get chinese characters - but after installation of ibus-pinyin nothing happens
[05:23] <yos_sarian> :/
[05:24] <yos_sarian> ...I restared ibus deamon.
[05:26] <yos_sarian> 很好！
[05:26] <yos_sarian> ok it wokrs :)
[05:26] <yos_sarian> thanks any way ;P
[05:28] <ZeZu> Is there any way to enable vsync on videos in chrome?  I have a lot of tearing ...
[05:29] <Bashing-om> yos_sarian: This of value : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinyin_input_method ?
[05:30] <enfinitee> Hey everyone. I hope distros a lot and want to keep my /usr/share/icons and /usr/share/themes folders between installs. Is there a way for me to put those folders on another partition and create a link each time I install a new disto? I have them on /mnt/data/[icons/themes] now, but when I delete /usr/share/[icons/themes] and try sudo ln -s /mnt/data/[icons/themes] it doesn't work all the way, only certain themes/icons work
[05:30] <enfinitee> hop distros*
[05:31] <ZeZu> This is on 16.10/x86_64: radeon drv,  chrome !chromium,  video is using jwplayer but I think it's all video in browser
[05:32] <yos_sarian> 再见！ ：）
 do i add "nomodeset" straight after "..ubiquity quiet splash ---" ?
[05:41] <Necy> so it reads "..ubiquity quiet splash --- nomodeset"
[05:42] <Necy> (hopefully i can eventually edit the grub file in gedit)
[05:45] <Bashing-om> Necy: Nooting the install medium ? Then there is the preset boot options in the boot menu . What type of system is this - EFI ?
[05:45] <Bashing-om> Nooting/Booting*
[05:46] <Necy> its kubuntu (i dont think it has the option with f6).
[05:46] <Necy> uefi
[05:46] <Necy> which is enabled
[05:47] <Necy> some posts online say to press 'e' in the grub and edit the 'linux' line
[05:47] <Bashing-om> Necy: Still not sure where you are .. attempting to boot the installer and getting a balck screen. yes ?
[05:47] <Dreaman> one hdd or
[05:47] <Dreaman> more
[05:48] <Necy> yeah. trying to boot into the installer from the cd.
[05:48] <Necy> one hdd
[05:48] <su_> hello
[05:49] <Necy> sorry to confuse you
[05:51] <Bashing-om> Necy: Re-biit and as soon as the firmware screen clears spam the escape key -> language screen, escape jeu to accept the default -> boot options screen -> F6 key  -> boot parameters options ( space-bar to select, tab to OK, enter to accept ) .
[05:51] <Bashing-om> reboot*
[06:02] <Aurorasaura> is there a way to see a progress bar when using cp -rp?
 i can only get as far as the GRUB screen (with "Start kubuntu", "OME install.." ect.) and there is no f6 option
[06:07] <Bashing-om> Necy: That is not the screen ya want . trt again from a reboot . there is but a 3 second window of opportunity to redirect to boot the boot options screen .
 is it the bios we want?
[06:10] <Bashing-om> Necy: No, this is past bios ( EFI ) / as soon as the bios screen clears spam the escape key .
[06:11] <xiekunfeng> lalala
[06:11] <xiekunfeng> what ate you doing
[06:11] <cfhowlett> xiekunfeng, the topic is ubuntu support.  please stay on topic.  for chitchat, consider #ubuntu-kylin
[06:11] <xiekunfeng> ?
[06:11] <cfhowlett> !topic | xiekunfeng
[06:12] <xiekunfeng> ah
[06:16] <xiekunfeng> dadada
[06:17] <cfhowlett> !cn | xiekunfeng
[06:18] <xiekunfeng> 啊
[06:23] <pagios> mount /home/devtest/ /sbin/mount.davfs: /home/devtest is the home directory of user
 im at a screen, but it was via f2. "boot mode is set to: UEFI" ECT. is the the correct one?
[06:23] <pagios> how can i bypass this
[06:24] <Necy> its blue
[06:24] <pagios> i am not root
[06:24] <Necy> UEFI options screen
[06:27] <Bashing-om> Necy: No. ya want to get past the UEFI booting . As to how I can not advise - every manufacturer does it different . You want to boot the installer in EFI mode . and get to the boot parameters screen by spamming the escape key .
 to even to run the cd i have to f12 and select CDROM1. do i do that and then spam esc?
[06:30] <Necy> because that takes me to a grub menu :s
[06:30] <Necy> "grub>"
[06:33] <jpugarte1> sup guys, anyone here who can help me a little bit with resizing my partitions?
[06:34] <Necy> maybe if i disable secureboot or change to legacy?
[06:34] <Necy> idk
[06:36] <Bashing-om> Necy: Each manufacturer does it different as there is no specification set . I Do not know what to tell you in your particular case . But the CD does not boot until after the firmware ( bios ) . As soon as that bios screen clears then spam the escape key to redirect the boot process to the boot parameters screen .
[06:38] <Bashing-om> Necy: If you are dual booting You want to install in the same mode as that of Windows ( EFI !) .
[06:40] <Necy> i have two options in the bottom corner when i boot, a boot options with f12 and boot settings f2
*
[06:44] <Bashing-om> Necy: I know you are getting frustrated .. but I say again .. I can not know .
[06:44] <cfhowlett> Necy, one of those is for a temporary boot setting, the other is for making "permanent" settings.  either will work.
 im just confused
[06:46] <Bashing-om> Necy: EFI is confusing to a lot of us . there is no standard .
[06:56] <abhay_> hi
[06:57] <tami> hey
[06:59] <franksch> Hi guys
[07:00] <franksch> can anyone say how to circumvent Ubuntu One?
[07:00] <cfhowlett> explain franksch
[07:00] <franksch> It doesn't work
[07:00] <franksch> well: I create the account with email and user name
[07:01] <Guest43356> Hello?
[07:01] <Guest43356> Why Linux?
[07:01] <franksch> OOne asks me to activate and validate the email
[07:01] <franksch> I check my mail and click the links
[07:01] <cfhowlett> ask ##linux guest435
[07:01] <Dreaman> Guest43356  why not
[07:01] <franksch> ... nothing happens
[07:02] <Guest43356> in that channel dont allow me to ask
[07:02] <cfhowlett> why do you need ubuntuONE?
[07:02] <cfhowlett> Guest43356, this is ubuntu support.  chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:02] <franksch> because ALL Forums I found want to use SSo login using UOne
[07:04] <cfhowlett> franksch, I understand ...
[07:05] <franksch> Ubuntu has created a nice chicken_and_egg problem with Ubuntu One for me
[07:06] <hateball> Guest43356: you need to be registered to chat there
[07:06] <hateball> !register | Guest43356
[07:14] <anddam> I changed my /etc/exports entry from /srv/backup to /srv/backup/Foo, stopped the nfs-kernel-server and restarted it again
[07:15] <anddam> clients, both ubuntu and macos, still see /srv/backup share using showmount -a
[07:15] <anddam> is there a cache on nfs server?
[07:15] <anddam> it seems unlikely it'd survive the server restart, but still
[07:23] <tivopin> Stupid amerij
[07:24] <tivopin> Amerikanos stupid
[07:24] <cfhowlett> tivopin, the topic here is ubuntu support.  stop your insults or go somewhere else to play.
[07:24] <Delphin> hi, I recently uninstalled amavis but keep getting errors like "postfix/qmgr[26708]: warning: connect to transport private/smtp-amavis: Connection refused" in my /var/log/mail.log, can anyone help?
[07:34] <zerl> gday, hoping someone can shed some light on my problem. trying to run apt-get on 12.04 getting "version `GLIBC_2.18' not found" error from apt-get
[07:35] <zerl> tried downloading fresh apt from packages and installing with dpkg with no change in the above error, mind you it would not configure due to the deps issue
[07:36] <zerl> what can I do in this situation to get the package management system working again
[07:36] <stevendale> Hi zerl
[07:37] <zerl> dpkgis reporting apt depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.6); however: Package libstdc++6 is not configured yet,
[07:37] <stevendale> I'm afraid you have to upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libc6 12.04 only supports 'glibc' up to 2.15, not 2.18
[07:37] <ducasse> zerl: try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[07:38] <zerl> I am wondering if i have been pw0wned becasue I have no idea how it ended up in this state
[07:39] <zerl> tried that , will DM you output
[07:40] <zerl> somehow libstc++6 is not configured
[07:40] <ducasse> zerl: please use a pastebin next time
[07:40] <ducasse> !pastebin
[07:40] <zerl> oh ... very sorry
[07:41] <ducasse> zerl: try 'sudo apt-get install -f'
[07:41] <ducasse> zerl: what does it want to do?
[07:42] <zerl> This is the output from sudo dpkg --configure -a ---- http://paste.ubuntu.com/24100794/
[07:43] <zerl> This is the output from that last one http://paste.ubuntu.com/24100799/
[07:43] <zerl> that was one of the first commands I tried actuallty
[07:45] <zerl> I was playing with tomcat, guacamole last time I was on this server so no idea why libstdc++ is broken
[07:46] <ducasse> zerl: ok, not sure what has happened here, probably a third-party repo. do you have anything in /etc/sources.list.d?
[07:46] <zerl> lemme check
[07:47] <zerl> guacamole-stable-precise.list  guacamole-stable-precise.list.save  webupd8team-y-ppa-manager-precise.list
[07:48] <ducasse> zerl: ok, hang on a sec.
[07:52] <anddam> this is the output of showmount for my NFS issue https://gist.github.com/anddam/99aee5654a20890388961e01f7f1d23e
[07:53] <anddam> the "directory" listed is what previously was in export, it's not mounted or anything. The export files is how reported there
[07:53] <ducasse> zerl: pastebin /etc/sources.list and 'apt-cache policy libstdc++6'
[07:54] <zerl> getting it now
[07:55] <zerl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24100823/
[07:55] <biaksh> Hy
[07:55] <zerl> can I lookup the policy on the libs directly in a text file?
[07:56] <theosvoitha> hello. I installed Ubuntu 16.10 (64) by minimal Install method and selected "basic system utilities". but when I boot and select "ubuntu" I just get blinking prompt. two times I tried but I get same thing. will appreciate any help.
[07:58] <theosvoitha> I installed on a HP uefi machine. using a live CD I found that partitions and data is there but am just unable to get to the login screen.
[07:58] <ducasse> zerl: yes, you can loop through them and look them up, but shouldn't we focus on this?
[07:58] <zerl> yes
[07:59] <zerl> I just meant is there a manual way to look up the apt policy on libstc++6 since apt is broken
[08:00] <anddam> theosvoitha: so it's not starting at all, is it? that is there's no boot phase from ramdisk
[08:01] <zerl> theosvoitha: did you note the comments on the minimal ISO page regarding UEFI? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[08:01] <Necy> if i install ubuntu on guided for resizing the windows partition, will this be ntfs automatically? or can i set it as ext4?
[08:01] <theosvoitha> zerl: I did read the page. let me read again.
[08:02] <ducasse> zerl: right, you can probably dig through the apt logs. which version does this give you - 'dpkg -l libstdc++6' ?
[08:02] <clancy> clancy
[08:02] <clancy> hi guys
[08:02] <zerl> theosvoitha: ok just checking your saw it :-)
[08:03] <zerl> ducasse: 6.3.0-8
[08:03] <theosvoitha> zerl: oh how could I miss that. :-( '
[08:03] <ducasse> !info libstdc++6 precise
[08:04] <travel> Hi there need assistance I have no internet on my ubuntu 16.04 desktop I ran an upate abut two weeks ago that stopped my USB WIFI adapter from working if I use it to connect the whole machine freezes. So I started connecting with an Ethernet to my extender and that worked till I ran an update yesterday now that doesn't connect. Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
[08:04] <ducasse> zerl: oh-k. that is definitely not the right version.
[08:04] <zerl> ducasse: so what does that mean?
[08:06] <ducasse> zerl: things that affect libc/libstdc++ are notoriously messy to fix, since they are so essential to the system. have you got any idea where you got that library version from?
[08:06] <zerl> no idea at all
[08:06] <jink> I bound my postfix to specific IPs (both ipv4 and ipv6) and it fails to start during boot, because the interfaces aren't ready, yet.  ("no local interface found for ...")  What should I do?
[08:07] <zerl> ok checking users home directories
[08:08] <zerl> found the user
[08:08] <zerl> found the deb they tried to install
[08:08] <zerl> how do I uninstall it ? dpkg -r?
[08:08] <ducasse> zerl: you could try doenloading the right version from packages.ubuntu.com and forcing it into place, but it might not be the only essential library you need to fix.
[08:08] <ducasse> zerl: oh god, no.
[08:09] <cfhowlett> zerl, wait how did a USER install a package on your system?
[08:09] <zerl> they have sudo rights but clearly not the smarts
[08:09] <cfhowlett> lol.  alright then.
[08:09] <jink> -__-  Sounds like fun
[08:09] <ducasse> zerl: removing that would break the entire system, libstdc++ is _essential_.
[08:10] <zerl> yes but I assume the old one is still there, just this one has taken over
[08:11] <zerl> so teh remove should in theory clean up its links and revert to existing state
[08:11] <ducasse> zerl: you can't have two versions of that installed, afaik.
[08:11] <ducasse> zerl: try 'ls -l /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++*'
[08:13] <RedPenguin> hello all
[08:13] <RedPenguin> not sure if I am missing something, but I put an SSL client cert in /etc/ssl/certs and the private key in /etc/ssl/private but it seems all programs are ignoring it
[08:14] <ducasse> RedPenguin: run 'sudo update-ca-certificates'
[08:15] <RedPenguin> tried that but just said 0 added, 0 removed
[08:17] <Necy> if i select guided partitioning will it create a swap partition?
[08:18] <zerl> ducasse: we are doing a system restore
[08:18] <ducasse> zerl: good choice.
[08:19] <theosvoitha> zerl: thanks for the help !
[08:20] <RedPenguin> unless for some reason ffmpeg and other programs aren't looking in the right area is all I can figure
[08:21] <foodsurprise> hello
[08:21] <foodsurprise> my touchpad works in debian yet not in ubuntu
[08:21] <foodsurprise> can anyone help
[08:22] <zerl> ducasse: thank you for the help!
[08:23] <ducasse> zerl: np! good luck getting the system sane again!
[08:24] <ducasse> zerl: and probably yank sudo rights from that user ;)
[08:26] <foodsurprise> does anyone know how to install support for touchpad with dell duo
[08:26] <zerl> ducasse: I can't, company director
[08:27] <zerl> ./owner
[08:29] <ducasse> foodsurprise: http://askubuntu.com/questions/347420/dell-touchpad-not-working-in-ubuntu#347470
[08:30] <foodsurprise> those commands alone dont wrk
[08:31] <foodsurprise> using latest ubuntu
[08:31] <foodsurprise> dell inspiron duo
[08:32] <foodsurprise> its quite confusing because it works in debian
[08:32] <foodsurprise> but my graphics driver isn't fully supported in debian
[08:36] <Necy> could somone recommend a swap size for a laptop with 8gb of ram
[08:36] <Necy> i was thinking 8gb, does that sound ok?
[08:37] <rymax99> that's fine
[08:37] <foodsurprise> hey i see i found a bug report
[08:37] <foodsurprise> can i install ubuntu ontop of NTFS or is that illa dvised
[08:38] <rymax99> Necy, i usually just match RAM for swap
[08:38] <ducasse> foodsurprise: it's not possible
[08:38] <Necy> thanks
[08:38] <foodsurprise> can i make a partition out of free space from windows
[08:39] <foodsurprise> without loosing my files
[08:39] <rymax99> theoretically
[08:39] <ducasse> foodsurprise: yes, but do that in windows
[08:40] <rymax99> I'd highly advise backing up anything you care about
[08:40] <elias_a> foodsurprise: That is the standard way. Back up your data first and then use the Ubuntu installer to shrink your windows partition(s).
[08:40] <anddam> anyone on the nfs "caching" issue?
[08:40] <vlt> Good morning! On our Ubuntu 16.04 MATE desktop _every_ user gets an (annoying) notification whenever someone (else) prints something. How can we disable this?
[08:41] <elias_a> ducasse: Why in windows? I've always done it using installer or Live stick.
[08:41] <ducasse> elias_a: safer to resize the fs there, reputedly
[08:41] <rymax99> agreed
[08:41] <elias_a> ducasse: Ok. I'll buy that :)
[08:42] <ducasse> elias_a: linux ntfs tools are not that great :)
[08:42] <foodsurprise> what program to use to resize the ntfs
[08:42] <foodsurprise> and is about 20 gigs enough
[08:42] <rymax99> foodsurprise, disk management
[08:42] <rymax99> how big is the disk?
[08:42] <rymax99> i'd give a little breathing room
[08:42] <foodsurprise> big
[08:42] <rymax99> depends on what you plan on using it for
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[08:43] <shredding> what happend?
[08:43] <foodsurprise> i really dont play games on windows
[08:43] <foodsurprise> i might go pure ubutntu
[08:43] <dbclk> I DO
[08:44] <rymax99> if you plan on playing any games, i'd advise keeping a windows install handy :p
[08:45] <foodsurprise> i dont game on the laptop
[08:45] <foodsurprise> only schoolwork/browsing/developing
[08:45] <foodsurprise> how to get to my NTFS from livecd
[08:45] <ducasse> foodsurprise: what do you mean 'get to'?
[08:45] <rymax99> what are you wanting to do, partition the disk?
[08:45] <foodsurprise> mount it
[08:46] <TomyWork> (obviously)
[08:46] <foodsurprise> just want to make everything can moutn via ubuntu
[08:46] <TomyWork> foodsurprise do you want to mount it from time to time or all the time?
[08:46] <foodsurprise> eventually im going to just have it all ext
[08:46] <foodsurprise> its not showing up in pacman
[08:47] <TomyWork> a word of advice first: do not store any linux application on an ntfs disk
[08:47] <ducasse> foodsurprise: the file manager should automatically see it and mount it on request
[08:47] <TomyWork> not even temporarily
[08:47] <TomyWork> ntfs doesnt properly support linux permissions
[08:47] <rymax99> foodsurprise, sudo fdisk -l
[08:47] <rymax99> figure out the device (ex dev/sda1)
[08:47] <foodsurprise> its there
[08:47] <foodsurprise> sda3
[08:47] <rymax99> mkdir /tmp/mount
[08:48] <Necy> Guys, what does home folder encryption 'look' like. Will it just be a regular login? and is it easy to disable if i wanted to?
[08:48] <rymax99> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 /tmp/mount -o force
[08:48] <foodsurprise> ok thanks
[08:48] <rymax99> should do the trick
[08:49] <TomyWork> foodsurprise https://www.howtogeek.com/236807/how-to-mount-your-windows-10-or-8-system-drive-on-linux/ this sounds somewhat reasonable. But do check twice if you dont understand something
[08:50] <TomyWork> rymax99 do you think it's a good idea to recommend force without explaining what it does?
[08:50] <TomyWork> it might not be a good idea
[08:51] <TomyWork> foodsurprise dont pass the force option unless you know what it's doing
[08:52] <foodsurprise> thinking seriously about just switching to linux
[08:52] <manish_> rfrfff
[08:52] <foodsurprise> my windows 7 wont even update
[08:52] <rymax99> go for it :P
[08:52] <travel> Hi there need assistance I have no internet on my ubuntu 16.04 desktop I ran an upate abut two weeks ago that stopped my USB WIFI adapter from working if I use it to connect the whole machine freezes. So I started connecting with an Ethernet to my extender and that worked till I ran an update yesterday now that doesn't connect. Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
[08:52] <manish_> oh yeah ,window 7 s...ks
[08:52] <foodsurprise> dont want to download spywear vs 10
[08:52] <foodsurprise> i mean windows 10
[08:53] <Necy> will it be 'invisable', as in i just login as normal?
[08:53] <rymax99> Necy, encryption? yes
[08:53] <foodsurprise> if i install on HD rather than run liveusb
[08:53] <foodsurprise> it'll be faster right
[08:54] <Necy> ah, cool. its a good idea then. *ticks box* :)
[08:54] <k1l_> foodsurprise: yes
[08:54] <TomyWork> Necy rymax99 depends on the type of encryption
[08:54] <TomyWork> ecryptfs should be invisible
[08:54] <rymax99> right, which is what he'll be using by ticking the box on the install
[08:54] <ducasse> Necy: consider if you really need it, it makes it a lot harder to recover data if something goes wrong
[08:54] <TomyWork> he didnt mention in his question that that is what he wants to do.... or anything at all, really
[08:55] <Necy> thanks.
[08:55] <Necy> thats a good point ducasse
[08:55] <Necy> hmm.
[08:55] <TomyWork> is it a laptop?
[08:56] <rymax99> I encrypt anything mobile, but desktop is per user
[08:56] <Necy> yea laptop
[08:56] <Necy> buts it will be used for uni, u see
[08:56] <rymax99> if you lug it around i'd definitely go for it, but that's me
[08:56] <Necy> so im split
[08:56] <TomyWork> is there any data on it that you cant risk getting into other people's hands?
[08:56] <Necy> not really. more of a precaution
[08:57] <TomyWork> if so, i recommend full disk encryption :)
[08:57] <Necy> but the data recovery aspect as got me second thinking
[08:57] <Necy> :D yea
[08:57] <Necy> i would proably backup
[08:58] <Necy> hmm
[08:58] <Necy> if it was easy to revert..
[08:59] <Necy> say if i wanted to that is
[08:59] <ducasse> Necy: you'll need to copy all your data out to revert
[08:59] <Necy> ahh.
[09:00] <Necy> can it be applied later on easily?
[09:00] <ducasse> Necy: the ecryptfs package comes  with a script to encrypt your homedir
[09:02] <rymax99> Any way to make a user a system user after creation other than editing shadow?
[09:03] <pagios> i am tying to compile a driver and getting : module.h:4:32: fatal error: asm-generic/module.h: No such file or directory lot of those, i dont want to copy module.h to same dir and #include "module.h" can i point gcc to /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-4-common in some way?
[09:04] <k1l_> rymax99: dont edit shadow file. just put that user into the sudo group
[09:04] <akik> rymax99: the uid/gid is set in /etc/passwd, so you can change it there. remember to chown your files afterwards
[09:05] <k1l_> rymax99: hmm, i might have misunderstood what you want
[09:05] <rymax99> k1l_, i was gonna say :P, just to make a user a system user
[09:05] <akik> i thought rymax99 wanted to have the uid below the system id limit
[09:06] <rymax99> actually yeah, i guess that'd be the issue is the uid
[09:06] <Ankammarao_> Hi All
[09:06] <rymax99> so i guess the answer is no it's not possible without editing the uid and changing ownership
[09:07] <vlt> Good morning! On our Ubuntu 16.04 MATE desktop _every_ user gets an (annoying) notification whenever someone (else) prints something. How can we disable this?
[09:07] <Ankammarao_> ubuntu server is very very slow and some times taking time for login, can any one tell the reason behind it
[09:08] <akik> rymax99: the limits for system ids are 100 to 999 (/etc/adduser.conf)
[09:11] <k1l_> Ankammarao_: does dmesg tell something obvious?
[09:11] <rymax99> off topic just found out i work today after nerding out all night
[09:12] <rymax99> Shoot me.
[09:12] <Ankammarao_> k1l_: no don't think so
[09:12] <k1l_> Ankammarao_: "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:13] <k1l_> show the outputurl here
[09:14] <Ankammarao_> k1l_:http://termbin.com/6yyl
[09:17] <k1l_> Ankammarao_: frist obvious thing on reboot is that it takes some time to bring up the raid.
[09:19] <Ankammarao_> k1l_: yes, its taking long time to up after reboot
[09:25] <MacroMan> Is there a generic way to find the location of a Binary if it's in PATH?
[09:25] <dsoyet> echo $(which name_of_binary)
[09:26] <ikevin> just which <binary>
[09:26] <llutz> dsoyet: some cat/grep missing :)
[09:27] <MacroMan> ikevin, Cool thanks. I knew there must have been a easy way. dsoyet, that just echoed the programs output
[09:31] <dsoyet> `dpkg --search $(which <binary>)`, find a binary belong to which package.
[09:32] <dnel> hi, does anyone know a way to stop tmux from being killed when my SSH session drops?
[09:32] <ikevin> dnel, use screen
[09:32] <dnel> does that have some exception, ikevin?
[09:33] <mahakal> guys i lost data on my hdd while installing ubuntu16.04 .How can i recover it
[09:33] <EriC^^> mahakal: testdisk
[09:33] <ikevin> dnel, i don't understand, what do you mean by exception?
[09:33] <EriC^^> !datarecovery | mahakal
[09:33] <EriC^^> !recoverdata | mahakal
[09:34] <mahakal> ok..But is it a GUI tool ?
[09:34] <EriC^^> mahakal: no
[09:34] <k1l_> mahakal: you mean you installed ubuntu and on that way it delete partitions and wrote new partitions on to the disk with ubuntu?
[09:34] <dnel> ikevin: the policy is that all processes will get killed on disconnect, unless screen is special it will get killed just the same
[09:34] <ikevin> mahakal, it's an interactive tool
[09:34] <EriC^^> mahakal: it's an ncurses tool (gui for terminal)
[09:34] <k1l_> dnel: no
[09:34] <ikevin> dnel, no
[09:35] <k1l_> dnel: screen keeps all programs running since it doesnt tell the programs that you lost connection
[09:35] <k1l_> !screen | dnel
[09:35] <geirha> dnel: Yes, screen (the client) dies, but the session will live on, and can be reattached next time you log in
[09:36] <mahakal> Eric^^: no actually i was running ubuntu14.04. while booting i accidently press F11. And dell recovery did the horrible job.tHEN i thought to install 16.04
[09:36] <dnel> just tested screen, exactly the same as tmux, it wont reattach
[09:36] <EriC^^> dnel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/8653/how-to-keep-processes-running-after-ending-ssh-session
[09:36] <mahakal> so now i want to recover the images ?
[09:36] <geirha> I'd expect tmux to behave the same, but haven't tried tmux yet
[09:36] <anddam> what can result in directories and export on an nfs server to be different? I restarted the nfs-kernel-server
[09:36] <ikevin> dnel, screen -S tmux, when in screen, start your program, then dettach using ctrl+A+D
[09:37] <EriC^^> mahakal: pastebin "sudo parted -l"
[09:37] <akik> dnel: there was a problem with systemd that it killed all user processes on logout but i thought that was fixed already
[09:37] <EriC^^> mahakal: testdisk can do that
[09:37] <ikevin> dnel, then disconnect, reconnect and do screen -x tmux
[09:37] <mahakal> ok
[09:37] <dnel> ikevin: I literally just tried it, as soon as I restart the SSH session with a detacted screen it dies
[09:37] <linocisco> hi all
[09:37] <ikevin> oO
[09:38] <linocisco> how can I set alarm with sound when laptop battery level is 20% or 100%?
[09:38] <akik> dnel: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=825394, check /etc/systemd/logind.conf for KillUserProcesses=
[09:38] <k1l_> dnel: what did you try exactly? i guess we are missing some parts
[09:39] <mahakal> Eric^^: pasting is not accepted
[09:39] <dnel> 1. open screen, 2. detatch, 3. re-attach OK, 4. detatch screen 5. drop SSH, 6. restart SSH 7. reattached screen, no session available
[09:39] <k1l_> akik: that is set to no and commented on ubuntu by default
[09:39] <EriC^^> mahakal: what?
[09:40] <mahakal> i am going to try termbin
[09:40] <EriC^^> mahakal: ok
[09:41] <llutz> dnel: how do you reattach screen?
[09:41] <mahakal> Eric^^: http://termbin.com/ls2v
[09:41] <dnel> screen -r
[09:41] <ikevin> dnel, try screen -x
[09:41] <llutz> dnel: or screen -dr
[09:41] <mahakal> Eric^^: i am runnig kali also
[09:41] <mahakal> Eric^^: dual boot
[09:42] <dnel> There is no screen to be attached.
[09:42] <dnel> ^^ literally the ouput
[09:42] <k1l_> dnel: screen -ls
[09:42] <EriC^^> mahakal: ok try installing testdisk
[09:43] <dnel> No Sockets found in /var/run/screen/S-david.
[09:43] <mahakal> EriC^^: i have installed testdisk.Just reading manual for more stuff
[09:44] <linocisco> hi, who is answering me?
[09:44] <EriC^^> mahakal: try sudo testdisk, no log, no log, choose the partition table type gpt, then analyze, quick search
[09:44] <EriC^^> mahakal: press "p" to list the files of the partition
[09:47] <ljc> i've connected to my box via ssh, but these sessions are long gone and done
[09:48] <ljc> but i do `ps a` and processes are still running
[09:48] <ljc> is there a neat way to terminate an old ssh session/processes?
[09:48] <Slown> Hello everybody
[09:48] <Slown> I'm wondering if I should install the server version or the minimal one
[09:48] <Slown> I'm using and old pc like a home server
[09:48] <Slown> to share files
[09:49] <akik> ljc: there's a way to kill all of your user processes but i'm not sure if you want that
[09:49] <Slown> and provide some other services like dns and apache
[09:49] <mahakal> Eric^^: i have completed command till "pressin P" what next?
[09:49] <Slown> what do you advice me fox ?
[09:49] <ljc> mm..which user? :x
[09:49] <ikevin> Slown, install base system then install package ubuntu-server
[09:49] <akik> ljc: processes owned by your user account
[09:49] <Slown> base system ?
[09:49] <ljc> that's not ideal but i'm curious
[09:49] <Slown> there is an ubuntu server iso
[09:49] <Slown> should I use it ?
[09:50] <k1l_> Slown: if you want the server why not installing the server iso?
[09:50] <ikevin> yes you can, so you asked about minimal one
[09:50] <akik> ljc: the command is "kill -9 -1" but remember it kills all the processes running under your user account
[09:50] <EriC^^> mahakal: does it show the files?
[09:50] <Slown> k1l_, it's not a production server
[09:50] <Slown> it's just a home server
[09:50] <k1l_> Slown: that doesnt matter
[09:51] <Slown> and it's an old pc
[09:51] <Slown> so np with ubuntu server ?
[09:51] <k1l_> that doesnt matter, too :)
[09:51] <ljc> akik: thanks :)
[09:51] <mahakal> Eric^^: i cant understand it
[09:51] <Slown> thanks
[09:51] <k1l_> server.iso doesnt mean its only for new server hardware in hosting locations :)
[09:52] <linocisco> hi all
[09:52] <linocisco> how can I set alarm with sound when laptop battery level is 20% or 100%?
[09:53] <mahakal> Eric^^: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24101194/
[09:53] <Slown> Is there any advantages installing the server version instead of the minimal one ?
[09:54] <EriC^^> mahakal: press q, pastebin the partitions it found
[09:54] <EriC^^> Slown: server supports uefi for 1
[09:55] <Slown> it's and old pc with bios and x86 architecture
[09:55] <Slown> :p
[09:56] <mahakal> EriC^^: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24101208/
[09:57] <sojusnik> On Ubuntu Gnome 16.10 the Gnome-Shell is sporadically crashing after unlocking the lock-screen. Restarting it (Alt+F2, then r) helps, but gets annoying over time. I'm searching for a way to debug this, especially with logs, but don't know where to find them. /var/crash/ (apport saves its reports there) also doesn't contain any files regarding the gnome-shell crash. Thanks for helping!
[09:57] <dnel> akik: that bug report looks like the right kind of thing but the solution didn't work for me unfortunately
[09:57] <EriC^^> mahakal: try the second partition
[09:58] <ikevin> Slown, if you install minimal one you will just have packages what you need
[09:58] <EriC^^> mahakal: whatever you do, dont write anything, it'll alter the partition table
[09:58] <mahakal> EriC^^: deeper search?
[09:58] <mvvvv> sojusnik, do you have journalctl command ?
[09:58] <Slown> the packages I need ?
[09:58] <EriC^^> mahakal: no, on the second partition press p
[09:58] <Slown> can you explain this further please ?
[09:58] <EriC^^> MS Data                  1050624  630196223  629145600
[09:58] <k1l_> Slown: use the server iso
[09:59] <mort> hey
[09:59] <mahakal> ooh ok
[09:59] <Slown> lol, someone told me to use the server version and another the minimal one
[09:59] <k1l_> Slown: the minimal iso requires more knowledge from the admin about what pacakges the system need etc. the server.iso is setup to work
[09:59] <Slown> I'm confused guys :x
[09:59] <Slown> that's a good answer k1l_
[10:00] <Slown> the ubuntu server is like using Debian, right ?
[10:00] <mort> after `dpkg --add-architecture armhf`, `apt-get update` says all the armhf repos 404
[10:00] <mort> e.g "Err:5 http://eu-west-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main armhf Packages
[10:00] <mort> "
[10:00] <k1l_> Slown: no. its a server iso. it doesnt have a desktop installed
[10:00] <mort> I kind of need some armhf stuff, any idea what's going on?
[10:00] <mahakal> EriC^^: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24101218/
[10:00] <Slown> yeah I know that, it's similar to debian without a desktop
[10:00] <Slown> I mean
[10:01] <akik> dnel: do you have a .bash_logout script which kills processes?
[10:01] <k1l_> Slown: in a way, yes. ubuntu is based on debian. but then changes some stuff.
[10:02] <aarannnnn> Hi, can someone explain the following command to me " *.* /dev/tty12"
[10:02] <Slown> ok great
[10:02] <RadiantNova> hmm
[10:02] <EriC^^> mahakal: what are you hoping to do?
[10:02] <Slown> thank you guys, I'll go with ubuntu server version
[10:02] <RadiantNova> i dont remember what nickname i registered
[10:02] <akik> dnel: run "screen -ls" when you have screen running. does it show the socket?
[10:02] <EriC^^> mahakal: recover the old ubuntu?
[10:02] <k1l_> Redwood: #freenode for help with that
[10:03] <mahakal> EriC^^: no i had some very important imagest worth 3 GB and some Books in pdf format .I want to recover that only
[10:03] <Cubensis> crap
[10:03] <Cubensis> ugh
[10:03] <mahakal> Eric^^: images are important for me .
[10:04] <dnel> akik: bash_logout does nothing about processes. the screen -ls command shows the socket before restarting the SSH session but not after
[10:04] <EriC^^> aarannnnn: that command doesn't make sense
[10:04] <aarannnnn> I know
[10:04] <EriC^^> aarannnnn: *.* just expands whatever is in your current dir that has something.something in it
[10:04] <RadiantNova> there we go
[10:04] <aarannnnn> The question is "What entry can be added to the syslog.conf file to have all syslog messages generated by a system displayed on console 12?"
[10:05] <aarannnnn> and it says that *.* /dev/tty12 is the correct answer
[10:05] <EriC^^> aarannnnn: that must be some config then to place somewhere, no idea here
[10:05] <EriC^^> mahakal: ok, did you used to have a separate /home partition?
[10:05] <mahakal> yup
[10:06] <EriC^^> mahakal: ok press q
[10:06] <EriC^^> then select the partition below it with p
[10:06] <EriC^^> my guess is that it's your home partition
[10:06] <llutz> aarannnnn: thats a line for /etc/syslog.conf not a command
[10:06] <mahakal> ok
[10:07] <aarannnnn> Ok but why does it achieve what it does I do not understand the command it jsut looks like anything goes to /dev/tty12 ?
[10:07] <akik> dnel: how do you see the socket if you're not connected to your server with ssh?
[10:07] <aarannnnn> is that correct
[10:07] <mahakal> Eric^^: i have kali linux also some 300 gb away:what to do next
[10:07] <EriC^^> mahakal: so that's the stuff you want to recover?
[10:08] <dnel> akik: I see it before I disconnect SSH
[10:08] <llutz> aarannnnn: yes, "send all facility.priority to /dev/xxxx" it means. read man syslog.conf
[10:08] <mahakal> EriC^^: i installed it after that happen.so i would like to avoid that area while recovering
[10:08] <akik> dnel: try opening two simultaneous sessions on your server and leave the screen running on one of them
[10:09] <mahakal> EriC^^: i have pressed P: what now ?
[10:09] <EriC^^> mahakal: do you see your user name?
[10:09] <EriC^^> mahakal: use the arrows to traverse the directories
[10:09] <EriC^^> right and left
[10:09] <dnel> akik: I am on IRC via SSH onto the same server, this session was up throughout the last test
[10:10] <akik> dnel: so the screen that you had your irc client running under didn't die?
[10:10] <mahakal> EriC^^: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24101242/
[10:10] <dnel> akik: I'm not currently running IRC inside screen or tmux
[10:10] <akik> dnel: well.. maybe try tht
[10:11] <EriC^^> mahakal: ok, head over to the home dir and figure out which one is your old install between the 2 partitions you just entered
[10:11] <akik> dnel: i have to say this is not normal behaviour
[10:11] <akik> dnel: maybe your server admin has created some kind of process clean-up
[10:12] <dnel> akik: I tested with two sessions at a time, the socket is visible from the 2nd session until SSH disconnects on the 1st session
[10:13] <akik> dnel: does the 2nd session screen keep on running or is it killed?
[10:13] <mahakal> EriC^^: i am getting my user name.how to search that folder and copying the things it found?
[10:14] <dnel> akik: the 2nd session is completely unaffected by the 1st
[10:14] <akik> dnel: is the screen killed or not? do you see it die?
[10:15] <dnel> akik: when 1st detatches the session, 2nd sees it is detatched, when 1st disconnects SSH 2nd only sees it's own screen socket 1st's disappears
[10:15] <akik> dnel: one option could be that the server free disk space becomes full thus creating strange problems
[10:16] <dnel> akik: no there is plenty of disk space and the filesystems are all rw
[10:16] <akik> dnel: do you see the attached screen session die?
[10:17] <dnel> akik: I don't kill the SSH session while it is attached, I a detatching file
[10:17] <dnel> detatching first^, stupid keyboard
[10:19] <dnel> akik: ok, I kill the SSH with screen attached, it persists for a few seconds then disappears
[10:19] <akik> dnel: this is a bit hard for me to understand. let's try this: 1) open a ssh connection to the server and create a screen session 2) open another ssh session to the server and logout while observing the screen session
[10:19] <k1l_> dnel: and this is a standard ubuntu server 16.04?
[10:19] <dnel> akik: that is what I am doing
[10:19] <akik> dnel: do you see the screen session die?
[10:19] <dnel> k1l_: it is KDE Neon, ubuntu desktop base
[10:20] <k1l_> hmm, hopefully the kde guys dont mess with the base system that much
[10:20] <dnel> akik: yes, but it takes a few seconds
[10:20] <akik> dnel: any error messages there when it happens?
[10:20] <dnel> k1l_: afaik it is standard ubuntu underneath
[10:21] <dnel> akik: none, it looks like a clean session SIGTERM
[10:22] <akik> dnel: can you create a new user on the server and test with it?
[10:22] <mcphail> It isn't happening to me on vanilla 16.04
[10:24] <dnel> akik: syslog shows "Stopped Session 12 of user"... a few seconds after killing SSH
[10:25] <k1l_> dnel: i know kde guys change a lot of qt and i think they do change some systemd stuff too. maybe they changed logind stuff
[10:27] <dnel> akik: I get the same with a different user account
[10:27] <akik> dnel: try looking at "journalctl -xe" if it says something about that
[10:28] <dnel> k1l_: possibly but not likely, if I can't find a solution though I'll certainly ask them
[10:29] <k1l_> dnel: did you try to set KillUserProcesses=no ?
[10:30] <dnel> akik: just messages about shutting down user manager and user slice after the session closed
[10:30] <dnel> k1l_: yeah, tried that and rebooted, that is currently set
[10:31] <dnel> k1l_: interestingly the commends on logind.conf say that the commented lines are compile-time defaults, and =no is set there so that should be the settings even before I uncommented the line
[10:32] <akik> dnel: do you have systemd-run program installed? there might be a solution at the bottom of this page http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/171503/tmux-session-killed-when-disconnecting-from-ssh
[10:33] <akik> dnel: systemd-run --scope --user screen
[10:33] <k1l_> dnel: yes. but since kde needs new systemd/logind stuff for new features from plasma etc. i am not sure that its the ubuntu default, still.
[10:33] <EriC^^> mahakal: press "C" or "c" , one is for copying selected files the other for the whole dir i think
[10:34] <dnel> akik: bingo! that solution worked
[10:35] <akik> yay systemd
[10:35] <dnel> akik: ...bringing the year of the BSD desktop ever closer
[10:35] <mahakal> EriC^^: how to copy to pendrive
[10:35] <akik> dnel: probably kde neon changed something. that's maybe why non ubuntu flavours are not supported here
[10:37] <EriC^^> mahakal: after pressing c selected the destination dir
[10:37] <EriC^^> mahakal: mount the pen drive first
[10:38] <dnel> akik: yeah I understand, I will test this on pure ubuntu though too when I get a chance, perhaps it's a bug waiting in the pipeline
[10:38] <dnel> akik: not bug, a "feature" :)
[10:38]  * dnel raises systemd flag
[10:41] <dnel> I'll leave it there for now anyway, thanks akik, k1l_
[10:42] <ritisha> beaglebone
[10:45] <Giovanni1> prova
[10:55] <cliffer> is there anything i can do to have fail2ban updated to v0.10 in ubuntu repos?
[10:55] <ikevin> cliffer, just waiting :)
[10:56] <k1l_> cliffer: file a bug or request on launchpad.net but if there is not a real concern there wont be a SRU
[10:57] <cliffer> SRU?
[10:58] <k1l_> cliffer: stable release update. ubuntu doesnt update the version after release. it does patch the version for heavy bugs and security issues.
[10:58] <k1l_> so if you want a new version, just because its new, that will not happen.
[10:59] <Xun95> hi
[11:00] <cliffer> mhh, fail2ban does not support IPv6 in current repo but in upstream. users should know about it but you can also declare it as a security issue
[11:01] <k1l_> !bug | cliffer
[11:18] <mkramer> r
[11:19] <dominik_> bb
[11:21] <maher90> s
[11:22] <maher90> what is this
[11:29] <hackingNerd>  Hi, I am writing STDOUTS to a file, but in file there is some noise like this : '^[[00m:^[[01;34m~^[[00m' I am not getting these characters are and whats its solution. Please help :)
[11:39] <jink> hackingNerd: Color codes.
[11:41] <jink> hackingNerd: Stuff like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizingBashPrompt#Preparing_.bashrc
[11:41] <hackingNerd> jink: Thanks... Well what is the solution, I am using xclip etc to avoid these on my terminal..but how I could filter these in memory.
[11:42] <hackingNerd> thanks for link... :)
[11:42] <kangaroo72> Hello. I'm trying to burn a BluRay-Data-Dics with Brasero. I'm new in burning with linux, and not so experienced. Brasero is starting, but it doesn't show any drive. Are there more steps to do? Thanks for help.
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> !bluray | kangaroo72 start here
[11:43] <hackingNerd> jink: I found solution ... Thanks guys.
[11:44] <alessandroalb> Hi all
[11:44] <b3h3m0th> I have netw0 (bridged) and admn0 (NATed) network interfaces. netw0 is connected to my router with internet access and admn0 is connected to my router without internet access. I am not getting internet connectivity on my machine. When I down admn0, then I am getting internet connectivity. How do I get connectivity with both interfaces up?
[11:44] <kangaroo72> does it mean, that I have to install these restricted formats?
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> kangaroo72  it's a start
[11:45] <kangaroo72> it's installing :-)
[11:45] <k1l_> kangaroo72: did you put a blueray into the tray?
[11:45] <kangaroo72> yihaa ;-)
[11:47] <alessandroalb> i have problem, why not ?  Use Ubuntu 16.04 with gnome-shell 3.18.5. Sometime, random, after login i keep screen empty (green) with only cursor, Where can see, log i mean, to understand something ? Or there is other solution ?
[11:47] <kangaroo72> it's installing flash-plugin too?! I just want to burn ....
[11:48] <jink> Ubuntu 16.10 / QEMU VPS: I bound my postfix to specific IPs (both ipv4 and ipv6) and it fails to start during boot, because the interfaces aren't ready, yet.  ("no local interface found for ...")  What should I do?
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> flash is oe of the restricted formats
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> one*
[11:49] <kangaroo72> everything is installed now
[11:50] <kangaroo72> Brasero says to select CD/DVD ... but I can write BD too?
[11:52] <kangaroo72> Oh - Brasero recognized a DVD-Media
[11:53] <kangaroo72> and now BD too :-D
[11:53] <kangaroo72> Yihaaaa
[11:53] <kangaroo72> 25GB free :-))
[11:53] <kangaroo72> thanks
[11:56] <RadiantNova> umm
[11:56] <RadiantNova> where is the "super key" on the keyboard?
[11:57] <ikevin> RadiantNova, it's the "windows" key
[11:57] <RadiantNova> doesnt work
[11:57] <Walex> Have some Ubuntu repositories been hacked? I find on my system kernel 3.13.0-111 installed but it seems to be "unofficial" and no longer in the repo.
[11:58] <Walex> That was installed by 'unattended-upgrade'
[12:01] <k1l_> RadiantNova: what doesnt work?
[12:02] <RadiantNova> using super key +f2
[12:02] <k1l_> Walex: there was a security update which seems to have  pushed the 110 build
[12:02] <RadiantNova> the super key supposedly being the windows key
[12:02] <k1l_> RadiantNova: what should that do?
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> Walex  what's the ouput of    cat /etc/issue
[12:02] <RadiantNova> i dont remember
[12:02] <RadiantNova> try it
[12:02] <RadiantNova> let me know
[12:02] <k1l_> RadiantNova: i guess you mean "alt+f2"
[12:02] <Walex> MonkeyDust: that's fairly irrelevant...
[12:03] <RadiantNova> dont belittle me
[12:03] <RadiantNova> please
[12:03] <RadiantNova> im new
[12:03] <RadiantNova> by the way
[12:03] <RadiantNova> walex
[12:03] <RadiantNova> your statement imparted no knowledge
[12:03] <RadiantNova> so its even more irrelevant
[12:03] <RadiantNova> than mine
[12:04] <k1l_> RadiantNova: super+f2 is not a thing. so i wonder why you asking for this. and please dont use enter that often. that is annoying on irc
[12:04] <k1l_> RadiantNova: ok, good luck with that attitude.
[12:04] <RadiantNova> im sorry
[12:04] <RadiantNova> i dont like run-on sentences, bad english man
[12:05] <Walex> RadiantNova: vertical scroll space in IRC channels is an expensive resource.
[12:05] <RadiantNova> my attitudes not the best, its alright though. you guys are trying to be elitists downtalking to newbies
[12:05] <RadiantNova> expensive to who?
[12:06] <Walex> RadiantNova: to people who try to follow a conversation interleaved with many others.
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> RadiantNova  if you keep your question(s) in one line, they're easier to follow an repeat, if needed
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> and*
[12:06] <RadiantNova> alright, let me look up in the documentation where i saw this "super key +f2", because that was a first for me too
[12:08] <Walex> RadiantNova: 'super' is usually left by most GUI environments to be a prefix/modifier for user bindings
[12:12] <cfhowlett> y
[12:16] <RadiantNova> that was the first time i've EVER been scolded for sending short messages on IRC, you guys that chastised me for that are some real snobs
[12:16] <RadiantNova> linux snobs
[12:17] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:18] <Necy> HI. I installed kubuntu today but i cannot get my wifi working. It might be because of secureboot.
[12:19] <Guest72033> ls
[12:19] <RadiantNova> walex, scroll space costs nothing to generate
[12:20] <RadiantNova> well since your running windows 95 Walex, i take that back, yea i suppose it would take a lot of your resources
[12:21] <RadiantNova> thats true IRC high-class snobbin
[12:21] <RadiantNova> do you have a linux limousine Walex?
[12:22] <RadiantNova> does your toilet have linux engraved on the seat in 14k gold?
[12:22] <RadiantNova> dont give me your shit about scroll lines
[12:22] <RadiantNova> get a life
[12:22] <RadiantNova> fucking snob
[12:23] <RadiantNova> no one cares
[12:23] <RadiantNova> about the damn scroll lines
[12:23] <RadiantNova> thank you
[12:23] <iamboris> o.o
[12:25] <cfhowlett> RadiantNova, no profanity is permitted or necessary in this channel.  please read and comply with the community !guidelines
[12:26] <RadiantNova> !guidelines
[12:26] <RadiantNova> is this like the ten commandments?
[12:26] <RadiantNova> thy will be done as it is in #ubuntu, amen
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> RadiantNova  stop
[12:27] <RadiantNova> i read through it like a EULA
[12:27] <RadiantNova> done
[12:27] <RadiantNova> actually most EULA's are more interesting than those guidelines
[12:28] <RadiantNova> ive read lawbooks more interesting
[12:29] <cfhowlett> Necy, if your kubuntu system boots, then secureboot is highly unlikely to effect wifi
 i can always give it a go booting with it disabled and see
[12:30] <causative> what files in your home directory should be owned by a user other than yourself?
[12:31] <cfhowlett> Necy, sounds legit.
[12:31] <causative> like does unity need files owned by a different user... I just chowned all files in my home directory to myself because I migrated files from a different computer, but now I'm wondering if I need to fix ownership
[12:32] <RadiantNova> hey guys Walex is starting a new grassroots movement on IRC, he's gonna save the environment by telling people to use less scroll lines!
[12:32] <RadiantNova> the less scroll lines, the less CO2 emissions!
[12:32] <RadiantNova> we'll save the rainforests just by using less scroll lines
[12:33] <cfhowlett> hexchat users: note that the ignore command makes disruptive elements vanish: e.g. /ignore RadiantNova
[12:33] <RadiantNova> what a novel idea
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> RadiantNova  keep the chanel free for actual ubuntu support questions
[12:33] <Mathisen> wow..
[12:33] <RadiantNova> Mathisen plays world of warcraft
[12:33] <RadiantNova> thats random
[12:33] <kangaroo72> Sorry ... I still got an error while burning ...
[12:33] <kangaroo72> Checking session consistency (brasero_burn_check_session_consistency brasero-burn.c:1739) Unsupported type of task operation Session error : Ein interner Fehler ist aufgetreten (brasero_burn_record brasero-burn.c:2856)
[12:36] <ppf> kangaroo72: google says install icedax
[12:36] <G66K> hello everyone
[12:36] <G66K> how to change ip for ppp0 interface manually ?
[12:37] <Necy> hmm.. with secureboot disabled the desktop isnt even showing
[12:37] <Necy> :S
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> !ppp | G66K
[12:38] <Necy> stuck on the kde screen
[12:38] <kangaroo72> dont know what icedax is - but installing ;-)
[12:39] <hamza> hi everyone
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> kangaroo72  icedax : "Creates WAV files from audio CDs."
[12:40] <hateball> Necy: is it 16.04 or 16.10?
[12:40] <kangaroo72> I want to burn only two rar-files
[12:40] <kangaroo72> (4 + 2GB)
[12:40] <kangaroo72> on one bd
[12:40] <Necy> its 16.10 hateball
[12:41] <hateball> Necy: as Plasma in 16.04 is rather... volatile, you'll want to use kubuntu backports PPA or stuff like that might happen regardless of secure boot or no.
[12:41] <hateball> Necy: ah ok. well, try a reboot I guess. it still acts up in 16.10 :p
[12:41] <hamza> I have some troubles with the Network-manager
[12:42] <k3nz0> Hello, I'm facing a problem with ubuntu 15.04. When I leave for TTY1 and want to come back to GUI mode the screen shows "Power Saving Mode" and goes offline.
[12:42] <k3nz0> Any clue ?
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> k3nz0  for one, 15.04 is no longer supported
[12:42] <cfhowlett> k3nz0, 15.04 is quite dead and not supported here or elsewhere.  install a  supported version
[12:42] <hateball> k3nz0: If you are really on 15.04 it is EOL
[12:43] <hateball> heh
[12:43] <hateball> !details | hamza
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> k3nz0  type   /topic
[12:43] <Necy> its still crashing
[12:44] <hamza> I'm trying to access my vpn network so i tried to install Network-manager(gui) but I don't have the option
[12:44] <Necy> the previous windows open but the taskbar doesnt display
[12:44] <hamza> is there another to access my vpn since I cannot have the configuration files
[12:46] <kangaroo72> I just read to install ppa "cdr-tools"
[12:46] <k3nz0> I don't actually think it's because of 15.04
[12:46] <cfhowlett> again k3nz0 15.04 is not supported, so no point discussing it.  upgrade.
[12:46] <k3nz0> Also I cannot change to Ubuntu 16.04 as it's not my PC
[12:46] <k3nz0> thanks anyways :-)
[12:47] <kangaroo72> but apt-update ends in ... 0% [Verbindung mit dl.google.com (2a00:1450:4001:814::200e)]
[12:47] <kangaroo72> weird
[12:47] <k3nz0> Apart from ubuntu 15, does any one knows where this "bug" comes from ?
[12:47] <k3nz0> When I leave for TTY1 and want to come back to GUI mode the screen shows "Power Saving Mode" and goes offline.
[12:48] <Necy> ouch. only loads desktop in secureboot it seems
[12:48] <hamza> how can I add a vpn network in network-manager I had already installed the openvpn moudule
[12:48] <k3nz0> But when I go back to TTY1 it works okay, TTY1 works okay
[12:49] <MrMonkey31> out of curiosity, and cause of immediate need also, is there a prescribed method to waking up google chrome after stopping his processes one by one?
[12:50] <RadiantNova> set an alarm bye google chromes bed
[12:50] <RadiantNova> since your referring to google chrome as a person
[12:50] <MrMonkey31> question applies to any prog with tons of processes (~20), and refers to preventing dataloss/retaining stability
[12:50] <RadiantNova> i'd imagine he must have a bed
[12:50] <RadiantNova> and an outlet nearby
[12:50] <RadiantNova> for the alarm clock
[12:51] <RadiantNova> does that answer your question?
[12:51] <MrMonkey31> RadiantNova: but what of dataloss?
[12:52] <r0ute> I find the easiest way to prevent the dataloss is by not killing the processes in the first place.
[12:52] <RadiantNova> grab a flash light and look for it?
[12:53] <MrMonkey31> hey!  what's this talk of KILLing?  & good morning :]
[12:53] <r0ute> Good afternoon
[12:53] <RadiantNova> yea
[12:53] <RadiantNova> what are you talking about killing for
[12:53] <RadiantNova> this is a family friendly chat
[12:53] <RadiantNova> 1st warning
[12:54] <RadiantNova> usually when i lose my data i find it ran off and hid under the bed
[12:54] <RadiantNova> like a small dog does
[12:54] <hateball> hamza: I think you also need network-manager-openvpn-gnome installed
[12:54] <RadiantNova> gnome's dont exist
[12:54] <RadiantNova> god this chat is silly as hell
[13:01] <nguyen> hello
[13:01] <Necy> if i uninstalled windows do you think my problem would go away?
[13:15] <nguyen> join #irc://irc.oftc.net/kernelnewbies
[13:18] <nguyen> hello i'm newbie in ubuntu
[13:19] <kangaroo72> hmm
[13:19] <kangaroo72> burning still doesn't work
[13:20] <kangaroo72> Unsupported type of task operation
[13:20] <Necy> will i get this same problem if i install opensuse?
[13:21] <BluesKaj> !wodim | kangaroo72
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> Necy  opensuse is completely different and not supported here
[13:21] <BluesKaj> !info wodim
[13:21] <BluesKaj> kangaroo72,^
[13:26] <hateball> Necy: if you remove windows you can disable secure boot, and so this problem would go away
[13:26] <hateball> Necy: you'd need to reinstall *ubuntu afterwards tho
[13:26] <kangaroo72> hmmmmm
[13:26] <kangaroo72> k3b works now ....
[13:30] <anddam> what's the proper approach to NFS shares and graphical session? should my NFS volumes be mounted in /media/myuser via fstab or is there way (that I couldn't find) to browse exports on a server frmo nautilus?
[13:31] <Casper_> Всем привет
[13:31] <Casper_> Hello
[13:31] <anddam> do NFS server advertise on zeroconf?
[13:31] <anddam> servers*
[13:32] <Casper_> Can someone help me?
[13:32] <MonkeyDust> Casper_  start with a question
[13:33] <Casper_> I'm having problems with Wi-Fi. My system is clean, I just installed it. I do not install the program, but is updated by the way now my system version 15.10, but the system suggested that I upgrade to 16.4 at this moment I flew into error, and the report, and then close the update program.
[13:33] <Necy> hateball: do you know if it would it work if i overwirte the windows partitions when re-installing?
[13:33] <MonkeyDust> Casper_  true, 15.10 is dead, !eol
[13:34] <afrikha> Hello, a new kernel was added yesterday to the official repository but it is removed today, is there any reason for this ?
[13:34] <afrikha> package is linux-generic-lts-xenial_4.4.0.65.69_amd64.deb
[13:35] <Casper_> true
[13:35] <Casper_> How to write a message to you personally?
[13:36] <Necy> removing windows that way
[13:37] <Casper_> And how to animate it? :)
[13:38] <hateball> Necy: well you can disable secure boot in bios, then boot k/ubuntu installer and choose to install over the entire drive, yes
[13:39] <Necy> ok. ill give that a try. who needs windows.
[13:39] <Necy> :)
[13:39] <doug16k> :D
[13:41] <Casper_> You can add this chat in Empathy?
[13:43] <Casper_> Help me to be someone thread, please.
[13:47] <Casper_> Does anyone?
[13:47] <meijiJAPAN> hello, i am trying to learn some linux and i am stuck with some booting problem
[13:48] <meijiJAPAN> can anybody help
[13:48] <Spontex> Casper_, rule 1 or irc, don't ask if you can ask, ASK ! and don't say just "help me" nobody reply
[13:48] <meijiJAPAN> ok so i installed kali a while ago
[13:48] <meijiJAPAN> and i was fooling around with dual-booted win10
[13:48] <Spontex> meijiJAPAN, kaly it's ubuntu ?
[13:49] <meijiJAPAN> i deleted the kali partition just for shits and giggles
[13:49] <meijiJAPAN> and fixmbr from the troubleshooting screen of windows
[13:49] <Spontex> so why did you ask on ubuntu channel ?
[13:49] <Casper_> So I asked the question, but who did not respond ...
[13:49] <meijiJAPAN> because i am trying to install ubuntu right now
[13:49] <meijiJAPAN> however it is stuck in a purple screen
[13:49] <Spontex> install Windows BEFORTE linux
[13:50] <meijiJAPAN> there is already a win10 installation
[13:50] <Spontex> and creat a clean partition with gparted
[13:50] <meijiJAPAN> however i can't reach to it because grub tries to boot its own thing i guess
[13:50] <Spontex> on GPT/uefi
[13:51] <meijiJAPAN> isn't it possible to install ubuntu with that kind of situation
[13:51] <Spontex> hateball, Kubuntu doesn't existe anymore after 2012, pleas use officiel distrib (gnome 3, mate, Lxde, Xfce)
[13:52] <Spontex> if you don't want probleme, backup your data, format yout disk on GTP
[13:52] <Casper_> I promise, if any living creature to help me, I will every day to help beginners with Ubuntu for the Russian-speaking population.
[13:52] <Casper_> :)
[13:53] <Spontex> creat partition (uefi, windows, swap, / and /home) and after install windows  and ubuntu
[13:53] <Casper_> I promise, if any living creature to help me, I will every day to help beginners with Ubuntu for the Russian-speaking population.
[13:53] <squig> Hi Casper, so you error is with the update?
[13:53] <Spontex> Casper_, stop spam just wait
[13:54] <Spontex> and rtfm dude
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> Casper_  hit the up arrow every 10-15 minutes to repeat your question, until someone can help
[13:55] <jenz> هلاا
[13:55] <Casper_> Error when upgrading from 15.10 to 16.4 software updates, simply turns off or OPERATE.
[13:55] <squig> computer turns off?
[13:56] <Casper_> Okay, so I will do.
[13:56] <jenz> شباب
[13:56] <Casper_> If you sprashivate me, let the computer shuts down.
[13:56] <Spontex> jenz please speak english on latin caractere
[13:56] <acosonic> Hi all, any comments? https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/use-your-windows-10-instantly-inside-ubuntu-linux-from-pavic
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> acosonic  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:57] <Casper_> *If you ask me, then yes the computer shuts down.
[13:58] <FunkyHeadGirl> Got ubuntu 16.04 and i havent got wi-fi option on my network tab, how can I get it?
[13:58] <squig> Casper_, how did you run the command (its ok, I understand a little russian(
[13:59] <anddam> FunkyHeadGirl: what's the network tab?
[13:59] <FunkyHeadGirl> I mean the network connection pic, from which i set ethernet or wifi and stuff
[14:00] <anddam> do you have a network icon in menu bar?
[14:00] <FunkyHeadGirl> yes
[14:01] <anddam> when you click on it what items are there?
[14:02] <FunkyHeadGirl> ethernet network, disconnected, VPN connections, enable networking CHECK, connection information, edit connection
[14:04] <anddam> FunkyHeadGirl: what wireless chipset do you have?
[14:04] <ducasse> FunkyHeadGirl: you might be missing a driver. open 'software and updates', then look under 'additional drivers'
[14:07] <dimisdas> FunkyHeadGirl: did you previously have wifi connectivity with this machine and ubuntu or is this a fresh install?
[14:08] <dimisdas> FunkyHeadGirl: try "sudo apt install lshw" and then "sudo lshw -C network" and use pastebin to send the results
[14:08] <Spontex> meiji with is my exemple for clean partition on dual booting https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2017/09/1488549978-2017-03-03-150456-1920x1080-scrot.png
[14:08] <Spontex> he left ...
[14:08] <FunkyHeadGirl> no never this is a fresh installation with no network
[14:09] <Spontex> FunkyHeadGirl, no cable ?
[14:09] <forehelp> Hi all, trying to make preseed only get packages from our internal repo but somehow it is still fetching things from outside, what parameters control this ?
[14:09] <FunkyHeadGirl> no cable
[14:09] <Spontex> antena usb wifi ?
[14:09] <FunkyHeadGirl> nope
[14:09] <Spontex> no friends ?
[14:10] <dimisdas> FunkyHeadGirl: a USB adapter costs 10$ or less
[14:10] <Spontex> ... no friends with a cable or a usb wifi avalible
[14:10] <FunkyHeadGirl> well hahah this computer's leaving tonight 165km west and i'm alone now
[14:11] <FunkyHeadGirl> but ill figure something
[14:11] <ducasse> FunkyHeadGirl: did you look under 'additional drivers'?
[14:11] <dimisdas> FunkyHeadGirl: can you run "sudo lshw -C network"
[14:11] <ikevin> FunkyHeadGirl, your phone :)
[14:11] <Spontex> ducasse, without internet, it's hardcore lvl
[14:12] <dimisdas> ducasse: no internet
[14:12] <ducasse> dimisdas: Spontex: it will still list which driver is missing if packages exist
[14:12] <Spontex> FunkyHeadGirl, try download manualy all .deb you need for your wifi and copy/past on usbkey
[14:13] <ikevin> FunkyHeadGirl, connect your phone on usb and enable sharing connection
[14:13] <Spontex> +1 kevin
[14:13] <FunkyHeadGirl> hey i try that with my phone, sorry i got heated
[14:13] <dimisdas> Ikevin ++ try USB tethering
[14:18] <linocisco> how can I set alarm with sound when laptop battery level is 20% or 100%?
[14:19] <ikevin> linocisco, have you check in battery applet if there are this kind of settings?
[14:20] <dimisdas> linocisco: make a script to check battery with an if conditional to run aplay an alarm sound file, set it up in cron to run every few minutes
[14:20] <linocisco> ikevin, nothing is found
[14:20] <linocisco> dimisdas, I am not so smart to write script
[14:20] <FunkyHeadGirl> ok so i got internet via my phone wohoo
[14:21] <FunkyHeadGirl> but my additional drivers in showing empty
[14:21] <FunkyHeadGirl> is*
[14:21] <ikevin> FunkyHeadGirl, try to refresh apt's database
[14:21] <FunkyHeadGirl> alrighty
[14:22] <dimisdas> linocisco: I'll send you an example since I'm bored, but you should find an alarm sound file urself 😅😝
[14:22] <ikevin> linocisco, http://askubuntu.com/questions/754609/laptop-battery-high-low-alarm
[14:23] <linocisco> dimisdas, that is cool. thanks
[14:23] <linocisco> ikevin, let me check. thanks
[14:23] <dimisdas> ikevin, linocisco, guess i’ll just stay bored :P It already exists
[14:27] <FunkyHeadGirl> still not showing any drivers
[14:27] <ikevin> FunkyHeadGirl, what's your hardware?
[14:30] <linocisco> dimisdas, thanks
[14:31] <linocisco> what is best youtube downloader for firefox? I used flashgot before. now it is not working
[14:32] <mzKas> linocisco, for videos or mp3?
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> linocisco  or try youtube-dl, in the terminal
[14:33] <linocisco> mzKas, mainly for videos
[14:34] <mzKas> for videos i use Video Downloadhelper extension
[14:34] <mzKas> to download as mp3 i use Youtube Mp3 Podcaster extension
[14:43] <forehelp> What package on ubuntu exactly defines the version that it is on? 14.04.1 vs 14.04.5 for example ?
[14:44] <ikevin> forehelp, maybe lsb-release
[14:45] <kubast2> Hey I have a fan on /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon2/pwm1 How can I turn on manual control without using pwmconfig
[14:46] <kubast2> when I run pwmconfig the fans get to max speed ,but the chassis fans don't really get back to standard speed
[14:46] <kubast2> so I'm not sure if it really works
[14:47] <ikevin> kubast2, see http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_control_fan_speed
[14:48] <ikevin> kubast2, it's for thinkpad so the procedure will be the "same" for other fan type
[14:52] <egyptian_> hi - if i have 4 nics in my interfaces file .. can i just add source-directory /etc/network/interfaces.d to the very bottom of the file? or do i have to add it in for each nic?
[14:55] <Christoph_vW> how do I get rid of a wrong DNS server entry?    "nmcli dev show"   shows me that IP6.DNS[1] has an invalid/old entry
[14:58] <BluesKaj> Christoph_vW, which ubuntu?
[14:58] <Christoph_vW> Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> Christoph_vW  is this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/dns-troubleshooting.html
[14:59] <finexbeer> how cancel cache on ubuntu
[15:01] <BluesKaj> in your text editor with root permissions, open /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head a,nd remove the dns nameserver or replace it with the correct one, Christoph_vW
[15:01] <OerHeks> finexbeer, "how cancel cache on ubuntu"  explain?
[15:01] <BluesKaj> Christoph_vW, and ignore the warninfg
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> cache can be disabled, is what i read here
[15:01] <Christoph_vW> etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head  is empty
[15:02] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust, depends what context ..
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> OerHeks  yes, that's why i'm not posting a link
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> finexbeer  what OerHeks says, what's the context
[15:04] <BluesKaj> Christoph_vW, and ignore the warninfg /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[15:05] <Christoph_vW> BluesKaj: problem is: nmcli shows 4 IPv6 DNS servers, but only the 1st is wrong
[15:05] <Christoph_vW> and I don't know where it got them from
[15:06] <BluesKaj> ok , Christoph_vW what does /etc/resolv.conf,  show ?
[15:06] <Christoph_vW> nameserver 127.0.1.1
[15:09] <alkisg> Christoph_vW: how are you configuring your network, e.g. with network-manager and dhcp IP?
[15:10] <Christoph_vW> alkisg: good question - I gave it a static IPv4 address in setup and IPv6 should be handled by DHCPv6
[15:10] <Christoph_vW> so I guess network manager is handling this now
[15:10] <alkisg> What's the output of this? grep . /run/resolvconf/interface/*
[15:10] <Christoph_vW> but dhclient -6 takes forever
[15:11] <Fooster> one of my machines updated to 4.4.0-65 which is apparentlty broken
[15:11] <Fooster> how do I fix this?
[15:11] <Christoph_vW> just "search DOMAIN.local" and "nameserver 127.0.1.1"
[15:11] <Christoph_vW> and the DHCPv6 server doesn't have the wrong DNS server anymore since some days
[15:11] <Christoph_vW> but the client won't update his server list
[15:12] <alkisg> Christoph_vW, and the output of this? grep -ri dns= /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[15:12] <Christoph_vW> alkisg: nothing
[15:12] <alkisg> Try with sudo in front, sorry
[15:12] <Christoph_vW> it is not in the connection profile  - it shows only on the device
[15:13] <alkisg> You should get permission denied
[15:13] <Christoph_vW> alkisg: I already did sudo -i
[15:13] <alkisg> So if you disable ipv6 in the nm tab, you no longer get the wrong dns servers?
[15:13] <alkisg> You think they come from ipv6?
[15:13] <Christoph_vW> alkisg: cli only - no gui
[15:13] <alkisg> Note that if a lease expires after 1 month, there's no reason for the client to fetch new dns server entries
[15:14] <finexbeer> how can you cancel cache on ubuntu useng terminal
[15:14] <finexbeer> ??
[15:14] <Christoph_vW> the lease should expire after 12 hours
[15:14] <Fooster> cancel cache?
[15:14] <alkisg> Christoph_vW: output of this? put your iface name there... /usr/lib/klibc/bin/ipconfig  -n eth0
[15:14] <alkisg> Does it list correct dns servers?
[15:15] <OerHeks> finexbeer, "how cancel cache on ubuntu"  explain?
[15:15] <alkisg> This only does a test request, it doesn't apply it
[15:15] <Christoph_vW> alkisg: yes, but that's for IPv4 only
[15:15] <Fooster> any ideas how to get rid of this 4.4.0-65 abortion?
[15:15] <OerHeks> Fooster, reinstall the kernel perhaps?
[15:15] <Christoph_vW> alkisg: my problem is just the wrong IPv6 dns server
[15:16] <Fooster> oerheks not sure how to do that wiht gce... can't get to grub directly?
[15:16] <ikevin> Christoph_vW, how ipv6 is configured?
[15:16] <Christoph_vW> DHCPv6
[15:16] <alkisg> Christoph_vW: you're sure you didn't put it somewhere static, e.g. in /etc/network/interfaces, right?
[15:16] <ikevin> ok, so dns server maybe come from dhcp request
[15:17] <OerHeks> Fooster, gce? hold shift @ boot to enter grub menu
[15:17] <Christoph_vW> alkisg: I cannot find a trace of it anywhere
[15:17] <Fooster> google compute engine
[15:17] <Christoph_vW>  etc/network/interfaces is nearly empty
[15:17] <alkisg> Christoph_vW: ah, you could even run sudo grep -r <ip> /etc
[15:18] <alkisg> And put the wrong ip there
[15:18] <ikevin> do you have anything in interfaces.d ?
[15:18] <finexbeer> a what to clear some space on my hardisk and a wanna cancel cache
[15:18] <ikevin> finexbeer, which cache?
[15:19] <Christoph_vW> ikevin: no, nothing
[15:19] <iresf> webadmin.nsf: The server admin database can be accessed remotely. ?  what this mean  ?
[15:19] <Christoph_vW> alkisg: no result
[15:19] <scottjl> finexbeer: what is it you're trying to accomplish?
[15:19] <OerHeks> Fooster, as you pay for it, ask https://cloud.google.com/support/  ??
[15:19] <Fooster> their support is garbage
[15:20] <Christoph_vW> "dhclient -6 -v eno1" gets a new v6 lease but the wrong DNS entry stays
[15:20] <alkisg> Christoph_vW: maybe you saved the config but didn't apply it? What kind of dhcp server do you have?
[15:21] <Christoph_vW> Windows Server 2016 Datacenter
[15:21] <alkisg> Did you restart the dhcp service? I don't know what it takes for that to happen under windows, there's also a #windows channel as it sounds like a server-side issue
[15:21] <Christoph_vW> alkisg: I did
[15:22] <Christoph_vW> and I don't get the old IP on windows clients
[15:22] <alkisg> Christoph_vW: try dhclient -r first, to release the old lease
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> finexbeer  start with   rm -r ~/.cache
[15:23] <Choups> guys i need some help
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> Choups  let's hear it, in one line
[15:23] <Christoph_vW> alkisg: didn't help
[15:24] <Choups> just started a new box, ubuntu 16 lts, installed apache and php7, but now when i upload a hello world php file, the php doesnt run, and it apears as a text file
[15:24] <Choups> what am i missing?
[15:24] <Christoph_vW> too bad it doesn't display where it got the addr from
[15:24] <Christoph_vW> maybe it is from a router advertisement
[15:25] <alkisg> Christoph_vW: well, next thing I would try would be a live cd, and if it happens there too, I would use tcpdump to see where it got it from
[15:25] <Choups> oh and i restarted the apache.. just saying
[15:26] <alkisg> Choups: you need the apache php module, not just the language
[15:26] <ikevin> Christoph_vW, you can disable ra
[15:26] <alkisg> Choups: follow the lamp installation guide from ubuntu wiki
[15:26] <Christoph_vW> bingo
[15:26] <Christoph_vW> it came from a RA
[15:26] <Choups> ok alkisg
[15:26] <Choups> ty
[15:27] <Christoph_vW> would be cool when nmcli would display where it got it settings from...
[15:27] <alkisg> Choups:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[15:27] <Christoph_vW> that whould make troubleshooting much easier
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> Choups  try this    tasksel (task select)
[15:28] <Christoph_vW> thanks for your help
[15:29] <l2y> > ubuntu has experienced an internal error
[15:29] <l2y> how can I save the text in the GUI?
[15:29] <l2y> I don't want to sent it anywhere, I want the report log in the text form
[15:30] <Choups> ty guys
[15:31] <alkisg> l2y: I don't know, but try: ls /var/crash/*; less /var/crash/*, to see the bug reports as text files
[15:34] <niko> .
[15:35] <Menzador> Hello niko , please ask your question
[15:35] <dax> lol.
[15:35] <Menzador> (or did you bump it on accident)
[15:35] <Menzador> (99 to 1 says)
[15:36]  * Menzador snipes himself after seeing that giant cloak
[15:36] <dax> Menzador: ;)
[15:36] <l2y> alkisg: thanks a lot
[15:36] <niko> Menzador: thanks, i know a bit about ubuntu :)
[15:37] <alkisg> np
[15:37] <Menzador> niko: Lol. I'm awful :P
[15:38] <xenial_> where do i find the kdenliverc file in 16.04.2
[15:39] <Menzador> xenial_: It's not in your home folder?
[15:39] <Menzador> Or rather in ~/.config ?
[15:41] <xenial_> It was but when i upgraded to 16.04.2 it gone from theere
[15:41] <Menzador> xenial_: Did you start Kdenlive after the upgrade?
[15:42] <xenial_> I have many times
[15:42] <alkisg> xenial_: find ~ -name '*kdenlive*'
[15:42] <xenial_> it was here HOME/.kde/share/config/kdenliverc
[15:42] <Menzador> Ah
[15:43] <xenial_> they placed it else where now
[15:43] <Menzador> Xe
[15:43] <Menzador> xenial_: I'll be right back.
[15:45] <akjshfa> How do I change the default "Text entry settings" for all accounts including guest sessions. I selected wrong keyboard language (English UK) when I installed the OS (16.04.02) and even though I deleted the UK version from "Text Entry Settings" and replaced it with English US, when I login to a guest session, the UK one is default...
[15:47] <neiogrin> quit
[15:48] <Menzador> xenial_: I'm back
[15:48] <xenial_> Ok
[15:49] <Menzador> xenial_: So it was in ~/.kde/share/config last you saw it?
[15:49] <xenial_> Yes it was,
[15:49] <xenial_> upgraded t0 16.04.2 and its gone
[15:51] <Menzador> xenial_: It appears the kdenliverc is now written to ~/.config , did you check in there?
[15:52] <xenial_> doing that now
[15:54] <xenial_> Menzador: found it, thank you
[15:56] <sonu_nk> hi i am facing issue with roundcube
[15:56] <sonu_nk> https://paste.ubuntu.com/24102633/
[15:56] <blackrabbit> guys do you know about any SW that I can modify screen brightness from tray icon?
[15:58] <koffeinfriedhof> blackrabbit: have a look at redshift
[15:58] <ikevin> sonu_nk, dpkg -configure roundcube-core
[15:58] <blackrabbit> koffeinfriedhof, I am using redshift actually
[15:59] <koffeinfriedhof> and what are you missing?
[15:59] <sonu_nk> ikevin:  dpkg -configure roundcube-core dpkg: error: unknown option -o
[15:59] <blackrabbit> koffeinfriedhof, I am looking for this https://itsfoss.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Brightness_control_Ubuntu.jpeg
[16:00] <blackrabbit> but I want icon just as a volume to change it
[16:00] <ikevin> sonu_nk, oups, --configure
[16:00] <Zythyr> Need help. I have a mointor that only supports 1280x800 or 912x1140. When I connect this monitor to my Ubuntu 16.04, it boots to a black screen. Using an alternate high resolution montior makes it boot perfectly fine. How can I fix this issue?
[16:01] <sonu_nk> ikevin: i want to install mail server on my ubutnu 16
[16:02] <koffeinfriedhof> blackrabbit: ah. that seems to be another tool like https://www.maketecheasier.com/configure-screen-brightness-in-ubuntu/ (bit old)
[16:03] <blackrabbit> koffeinfriedhof, yeah it's implemented on the kali linux
[16:04] <blackrabbit> maybe I can extract it from it
[16:05] <dimisdas> sonu_nk: roundcube is a webmail client, not a mail server
[16:06] <sonu_nk> dimisdas: yes.. i am aware about this.. i want to install entire email server on my linode... can you help me in this ?
[16:06] <sojusnik> mvvvv: Indeed, journalctl is installed!
[16:06] <OerHeks> sonu_nk, you better ask this in #ubuntu-server, and you get help there already ?
[16:06] <mvvvv> sojusnik, do you see the problem with journalctl -p4 ?
[16:07] <OerHeks> mailservers are not an easy job, you have been told before
[16:07] <sonu_nk> yes
[16:07] <dimisdas> sonu_nk you really should set up your own mailserver
[16:07] <dimisdas> shouldnt*
[16:08] <koffeinfriedhof> blackrabbit: perhaps you'll get the name. There are a lot of tools for handling acpi-specific things. You may find it with "apt search brightness" or similar.
[16:08] <ducasse> sonu_nk: we've explained this several times, you need a lot of knowledge to do this securely
[16:08] <sojusnik> mvvvv: checking out... what do I have to search for?
[16:08] <sonu_nk> ducasse: ok
[16:08] <sonu_nk> thank you
[16:09] <dimisdas> sonu_nk:  You’ll need a Mail Transfer Agent, a Mail Delivery Agent, an IMAP / POP3 Server and possibly Webmail software. It’s too complicated
[16:09] <blackrabbit> koffeinfriedhof, tried a lot, didn't find anything like it
[16:09] <dimisdas> sonu_nk: not to mention Antivirus, antispam, DKIM signings etc etc
[16:09] <mvvvv> sojusnik, errors about your problem I forgot :)
[16:09] <sonu_nk> ok
[16:10] <ducasse> sonu_nk: you also need to understand dns and other network protocols
[16:10] <sojusnik> mvvvv: hehe, when this crash happens again, I will look there for some hints. Thanks meanwhile. Can I PM you next time?
[16:11] <sonu_nk> ducasse: dimisdas thankyou.. so conclussion is this , i cant do this time ?
[16:11] <sonu_nk> right
[16:11] <mvvvv> sojusnik, you'll get more support here
[16:11] <sojusnik> k, thx!
[16:12] <ducasse> sonu_nk: no, i would not recommend it. there are services who will handle administration of your own domain for you, use one of those instead.
[16:12] <dimisdas> sonu_nk: if you want to use your own domain, perhaps you should look into paid mail services, like Google Apps or O365
[16:12] <OerHeks> o365 .. really ?
[16:13] <koffeinfriedhof> blackrabbit: it seems to be the default gnome-settings - brightness&screen setup. Perhaps you'll have to activate it via gconf?
[16:13]  * OerHeks facepalms
[16:13] <dimisdas> Oerheks: whatever floats their boat :P
[16:15] <blackrabbit> koffeinfriedhof, ohh I am using unity, but it maybe true that it's default in gnome
[16:16] <koffeinfriedhof> blackrabbit: then you should try gnome-power-manager or gnome-applets
[16:19] <horsewhip> Office 365 is actually pretty good – I do prefer Fastmail though.
[16:19] <horsewhip> I use Fastmail for my own domains.
[16:21] <blackrabbit> koffeinfriedhof, thank you, I will try unity-tweak-tool and google how to add something to power-manager
[16:21] <koffeinfriedhof> blackrabbit: good luck :)
[16:22] <xubuntu_2> Hi! Some time ago someone suggested me a command on the command prompt would let me format my SSD safely before selling it on-line and avoid theft of personal data. Time has come to sale but I don't remember the command. I think it was ' write something 0 1mb. If anyone can remind it to me I'd be thankful.
[16:24] <bogsdollocks> xubuntu_2 overwrite with 1;s
[16:24] <blackrabbit> xubuntu_2, dd should do it
[16:24] <bogsdollocks> badblocks does it
[16:24] <matt|home> hello.. anyone here have experience dualbooting operating systems and using partition software? i appear to have broken something :\
[16:24] <matt|home> silly me i thought ubuntu software could do that automatically
[16:25] <xubuntu_2> matt|home, there is a boot loader repairing program. I don't remember its name though.
[16:25] <matt|home> i dont think there's anything wrong with the bootloader, just one of the partitions i made is 'unusable' for some insane reason
[16:25] <xubuntu_2> bogsdollocks, blackrabbit I don't know how to do that. Could you explain further please?
[16:25] <tgm4883> !bootinfo
[16:26] <blackrabbit> xubuntu_2, sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=1M according to this http://askubuntu.com/questions/17640/how-can-i-securely-erase-a-hard-drive
[16:26] <bogsdollocks> ssd can be tricky tho
[16:26] <xubuntu_2> blackrabbit, thank you! I will try that and report back if something goes wrong.
[16:26] <bogsdollocks> you may deleate firmware
[16:27] <dimisdas> xubuntu: sudo hdparm --security-erase NULL /dev/sda (where /dev/sda is the ssd)
[16:27] <bogsdollocks> and any other hdd in the sys
[16:27] <bogsdollocks> be carefull
[16:28] <blackrabbit> xubuntu_2, yeah should be careful
[16:28] <xubuntu_2> Ok. Does dimisdas' command sound safer?
[16:28] <xubuntu_2> I only have this one disk on my computer
[16:28] <dimisdas> nope
[16:28] <bogsdollocks> then format it a fey times
[16:29] <blackrabbit> xubuntu_2, maybe just fill it with some big files and format it multiple times/
[16:29] <bogsdollocks> its not easy to get stuff/dasta of a hdd if yor not up to it
[16:30] <dimisdas> xubuntu_2: try running sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda (where dev/sda is your ssd) and pastebin what it outputs
[16:31] <bogsdollocks> hirens live boot
[16:31] <bogsdollocks> nuke it
[16:32] <cagri> arkadaşlar merhaba
[16:32] <cagri> hello
[16:33] <cagri> python öğrenmek için ubuntu kurdum . Bütün her şeyi hallettim . Önerileriniz nedir ?
[16:33] <OerHeks> hi cagri, english only please
[16:33] <blackrabbit> oh turkish
[16:33] <dimisdas> cagri: try asking in english
[16:33] <blackrabbit> cagri, I installed ubuntu to learn python. I got it all done. What are your suggestions?
[16:34] <cagri> I'm trying to learn Python. I've just started. What are your suggestions?
[16:34] <blackrabbit> cagri, install sublime text 3
[16:34] <frib> i need to install ubuntu on a flash drive but the installer always uses the boot partition of my main disk instead of using the flash drive. how to work around this? thanks
[16:34] <cagri> install vim editor :)
[16:34] <OerHeks> CarlFK, join #python for program help
[16:34] <blackrabbit> I hate vim :)
[16:34] <cagri> super :)
[16:35] <dimisdas> Cagri: #python-tr for turkish
[16:35] <CarlFK> OerHeks: ummm who needs python help?
[16:35] <alkisg> frib: use 2 usb sticks, one to boot and one to install to. You can't install on the stick you boot from.
[16:36] <frib> alkisg, i am not booting from the usb stick i am booting from an iso file
[16:36] <alkisg> frib, where is that iso file?
[16:36] <frib> main disk
[16:36] <frib> and i have already installed it several times, the problem is a bug in the installer that doesn't make the usb bootable
[16:36] <alkisg> Did you tell grub to get installed to the usb stick?
[16:37] <alkisg> And, what is it, mbr+ext4?
[16:37] <frib> that's over my head a bit
[16:37] <alkisg> frib, what's the output of `sudo parted -l`?
[16:37] <alkisg> (with the stick connected
[16:38] <frib> well it's different now because i followed this guide:
[16:38] <EriC^^> frib: in the installer are you choosing "Something else"
[16:38] <EriC^^> there's a bootloader location at the bottom of that menu
[16:38] <frib> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2338836
[16:38] <frib> EriC^^, yes but it doesn't make a difference the installer still uses the main disk
[16:39] <frib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24102830/
[16:39] <EriC^^> frib: which are you choosing? /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1 ?
[16:39] <frib> i tried both
[16:39] <EriC^^> /dev/sdb should work
[16:39] <frib> it doesn't
[16:39] <frib> well maybe my terminology is off
[16:39] <EriC^^> frib: i bet its worknig and something else is going on
[16:40] <frib> the usb can boot but it points to the main disk's grub i think
[16:40] <frib> i dont really understand
[16:40] <EriC^^> frib: yup something else is up
[16:40] <frib> so anyway following that guide the usb was still not bootable at the end even after copying all of the EFI files
[16:40] <EriC^^> frib: in the usb, is the efi partition populated?
[16:41] <frib> EriC^^, immediately after install my guess is no (bios -> boot from efi file -> no results)
[16:41] <EriC^^> frib: which pc model do you have?
[16:41] <frib> hp envy 15 something
[16:41] <EriC^^> frib: if you press f9 when it boots do you see a usb entry there?
[16:41] <frib> yea
[16:42] <EriC^^> so did you try it?
[16:42] <frib> i would have had to no?
[16:42] <alkisg> frib: when you boot from the "iso file", do you have the /sys/firmware/efi directory, i.e. are you in uefi more or in bios mode when installing?
[16:42] <EriC^^> frib: and what happened when you did?
[16:42] <frib> alkisg, i don't know
[16:42] <frib> EriC^^, it hangs
[16:43] <CarlFK> blackrabbit: https://wiki.pumpingstationone.org/Python_Office_Hours  page of stuff that tries to answer "I want to learn Python"
[16:43] <EriC^^> frib: ok, nevermind, let's reinstall grub from the current install then
[16:43] <EriC^^> frib: sudo mount /dev/sdb3 /mnt
[16:43] <frib> EriC^^, hold on
[16:43] <EriC^^> frib: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[16:43] <frib> EriC^^, just to try something i ran update-grub with my usb stick in which my main installation detected
[16:43] <frib> so it put the usb stick in my grub config file
[16:44] <frib> i copied that to the usb and booted it using grubx64.efi
[16:44] <EriC^^> frib: the usb won't be standalone bootable though
[16:44] <frib> which i also copied from my main disk
[16:44] <EriC^^> sounds sketchy
[16:44] <frib> but the desktop UI didn't show up
[16:44] <EriC^^> let's do it the "right way"
[16:44] <frib> only background and folders etc
[16:44] <frib> ok
[16:45] <blackrabbit> CarlFK, thank you, but I am perl guy. cargi was asking about python
[16:45] <blackrabbit> I was just translating what he said
[16:45] <frib> EriC^^, i exceuted those commands
[16:45] <CarlFK> blackrabbit: yeah.. wasn't sure who was doing what.  cargi left :(
[16:45] <EriC^^> frib: ok, sudo chroot /mnt
[16:45] <EriC^^> frib: then mount -a
[16:46] <CarlFK> ah, that makes sense.  well thank you for that
[16:46] <frib> EriC^^, ok
[16:46] <EriC^^> frib: mount | grep /dev/sda1    does it say mounted on /boot/efi ?
[16:46] <frib> EriC^^, btw i was also able to use the main disk's grub to boot the usb and tried to install grub from within the installation itself but it didn't work, maybe i did it wrong
[16:47] <frib> EriC^^, no it doesn't
[16:47] <frib> from within chroot?
[16:47] <EriC^^> frib: ok, (blkid /dev/sda1; cat /etc/fstab) | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:47] <EriC^^> yes
[16:47] <EriC^^> typo, /dev/sdb1
[16:48] <frib> http://termbin.com/4nn2
[16:48] <frib> http://termbin.com/yn05
[16:49] <EriC^^> frib: did you run mount -a?
[16:49] <frib> yea
[16:50] <EriC^^> ok, try mount /boot/efi
[16:50] <frib>  /dev/sdb1 is already mounted or /boot/efi
[16:50] <frib> is busy
[16:50] <EriC^^> oh crap, i made a typo earlier :)
[16:50] <frib> its all good
[16:50] <JokesOnYou77> What is the difference between the kernel packages that end with -edge and those that do not?
[16:50] <EriC^^> nevermind, try "grub-install"
[16:51] <EriC^^> then update-grub
[16:51] <nacc> JokesOnYou77: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/RollingLTSEnablementStack
[16:51] <frib> ok done
[16:51] <nacc> JokesOnYou77: iirc, -edge will mean you will get the next HWE whenever it is availalbe, but before it is released
[16:51] <dax> JokesOnYou77: -edge kernels are newer versions that are planned to be released normally and are available early for people who want to do testing on them
[16:52] <frib> even though I dont think this will work because the problem is with EFI not grub, but what do i know! :)
[16:52] <frib> should i try to boot it?
[16:52] <EriC^^> frib: yeah type exit and reboot
[16:52] <frib> ok brb
[16:52] <EriC^^> then try with f9 when the pc boots
[16:52] <frib> yup
[16:52] <EriC^^> and choose usb uefi etc
[16:54] <JokesOnYou77> If the *-edge kernels are supposed to be newer, why it linux-generic-hwe-16.04 4.8.0.39.10 while -edge is 4.8.0.34.6 ?
[16:55] <nacc> JokesOnYou77: sounds like something to ask in #ubuntu-kernel :)
[16:59] <Zythyr> Need help. After installing Nvidia drivers on my Ubuntu 16.04, the /dev/fb0 device is no longer present. What do I need to do to get /dev/fb0 to reappear?
[17:03] <Dreaman> http://prikachi.com/images.php?images/27/9056027F.png  8k :)
[17:04] <Dreaman> Zythyr see my
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> Dreaman  do you have a question or suggestion to help?
[17:05] <Dreaman> no
[17:05] <Dreaman> thenks
[17:11] <gambl0re> how do i exit nano editor
[17:11] <ouroumov> CTRL+X
[17:11] <dimisdas> control+x
[17:11] <gambl0re> i tried ctrl + O and ctrl + X
[17:11] <gambl0re> i did that
[17:11] <ouroumov> You then have to follow instructions
[17:11] <gambl0re> it keeps asking for "filename to rewrite
[17:11] <gambl0re> "
[17:11] <dimisdas> y or n
[17:11] <dimisdas> then enter
[17:11] <k1l> gambl0re: it asks you to save then. type y(es) or (n)o
[17:11] <ouroumov> Confirm whether to save and to what filename.
[17:12] <gambl0re> it doesnt ask to confirm anything
[17:12] <BarnabasDK> gambl0re and stay away from vi for now
[17:12] <gambl0re> it automatically went in nano
[17:14] <yeeve> gambl0re, have you actually changed any of the content of the file?
[17:14] <forehelp> hi all, how can i have two machines that are updating from the same repo (an internal repo), new ones show 14.04.5 and old ones show 14.04.3 ? kernel is the same... what package is making this change ?
[17:14] <alkisg> base-files
[17:15] <alkisg> dpkg -S /etc/os-release
[17:15] <BarnabasDK> +1 alkisg
[17:15] <forehelp> alkisg: both the same :/
[17:16] <alkisg> forehelp: /etc/os-release is the same in both machines?
[17:16] <forehelp> 7.2ubuntu5.5
[17:16] <alkisg> forehelp: is that linux mint?
[17:16] <forehelp> alkisg: yes same both
[17:16] <alkisg> forehelp: linux mint is horribly broken and not supported here...
[17:16] <alkisg> !mint
[17:16] <Irreparable> Hello dear gentlemen and ladies :<
[17:16] <forehelp> ubuntu 14.04  not mint
[17:17] <forehelp> alkisg: its not mint
[17:17] <yeeve> forehelp, are you wanting both machines to end up on 14.04.5?
[17:17] <alkisg> forehelp: run md5sum /etc/os-release in both files, is it the same?
[17:17] <alkisg> *in both machines
[17:17] <forehelp> no
[17:17] <forehelp> i want them to stay in .3
[17:17] <Irreparable> Is right now a suitable time to ask a few questions about ubuntu 16.04? :p
[17:17] <k1l> forehelp: does "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" still want to install updates?
[17:17] <k1l> Irreparable: just ask
[17:18] <yeeve> Irreparable, there's never a good time :P ask away
[17:18] <forehelp> alkisg:  yes, both the same
[17:18] <alkisg> forehelp: I don't get it, if they're the same files, where do you see that one is 14.04.5 and the other 14.04.3? That information is from that file.
[17:18] <forehelp> lsb_release -a
[17:18] <forehelp> and on /etc/motd
[17:19] <Irreparable> Been trying to do a dual boot install of ubunto 16.04 alongside windows 10 - after having issues with a black screen/no activity screen for an hour or two, my googlefoo taught me that it's apparently a issue that can be fixed with "nomodeset" (that was after I reinstalled the iso like 6 times thinking it was the issue...)
[17:19] <alkisg> forehelp: $ dpkg -S /etc/lsb-release
[17:19] <alkisg> base-files: /etc/lsb-release
[17:20] <alkisg> Are those files the same too?
[17:21] <Irreparable> No I got it to boot up properly - in UEFI mode - but when I told it to install it said something along the lines of that windows was installed via the BIOS setting and if I ran linux as UEFI I might not be able to boot windows 10 anymore - so I tried installing ubuntu via BIOS too, but now I get a screen with a - what seems to be keyboard = accessibility setting - for like 10 seconds and after
[17:21] <Irreparable> that it's back to "No signal land" again
[17:22] <Irreparable> make that "no" a "now"
[17:22] <Irreparable> :v
[17:23] <Irreparable> installing ubuntu server on a vm was easier than this and I did that the first time ever today too <_<
[17:23] <NoCode> Running Mate in Ubuntu, I've just noticed a zombie process right as I restart my computer. What should I do?
[17:23] <Irreparable> Kill it with fire? :p
[17:24] <NoCode> Well, I tried to kill it... But I logged out.
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> NoCode  nothing, a zombie i already dead
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> NoCode  ignore it
[17:24] <NoCode> So it's something based within my MATE DE,
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> NoCode  no, it occurs in all distro's, flavours etc
[17:25] <NoCode> MonkeyDust, What does?
[17:25] <k1l> NoCode: what zombie process?
[17:26] <NoCode> I think it's related to python3. But I'm not sure.
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> NoCode  https://www.howtogeek.com/119815/htg-explains-what-is-a-zombie-process-on-linux/
[17:26] <forehelp> alkisg: guess something is confusing here, now both show .5 will run some more tests
[17:26] <alkisg> np
[17:27] <NoCode> Z     1737  1946 python3 <defunct>
[17:28] <alkisg> forehelp: note that lsb is somewhat deprecated and not many distros have it, most do have /etc/os-release though
[17:28] <forehelp> alkisg: got in another machine a 14.04.1 (7.2ubuntu5.1 base-files) and on the .5 a (7.2ubuntu5.5 base-files)
[17:28] <forehelp> so that sounds about right on the change
[17:28] <forehelp> but the kernel is the same
[17:29] <alkisg> forehelp: well, you just did a partial upgrade there :)
[17:29] <k1l> forehelp: the pointrelease is not a real realease like 16.10 or 17.04. its more like a servicepack on windows. just the sum of all updates.
[17:30] <Irreparable> My question pretty much is, if I install ubunto in UEFI mode while Windows 10 is installed in BIOS mode, will I still be able to boot Windows 10? (My MB apparently has 2 options: BIOS only and Legacy + UEFI)
[17:31] <Irreparable> -o +u
[17:31] <forehelp> alkisg: thats the thing i am not updating kernels atm, i want them all in the same version so everything should be a 14.04.1
[17:32] <alkisg> forehelp: why do not want to update the systems?
[17:32] <forehelp> somehow it seems this base-files package on new install is then obviously getting the latest version, but keeping the old kernel and informing me it is a 14.04.5  when "it is only partially"
[17:32] <alkisg> Updates fix security issues etc
[17:33] <OerHeks> forehelp, reading back, i guess you don't have the same kernels on those machines..
[17:33] <k1l> forehelp: that doesnt make sense to want to keep them on 14.04.1
[17:33] <dimisdas> Irreparable: the two OSes' boot modes should match
[17:33] <k1l> forehelp: if you just run the updates a 14.04 will always stay on 3.13 kernel.
[17:34] <forehelp> k1l:  i got 3.13.0-101-generic on all
[17:34] <sdfsffasfsdf> Guys can someone help me with this?
[17:34] <sdfsffasfsdf> https://imgur.com/a/ajpfP
[17:35] <i7ch> hello people
[17:35] <k1l> forehelp: yes, there are updates to the 3.13 kernel base. look at ubuntu.com/usn
[17:35] <forehelp> k1l: OerHeks alkisg this is ok for me , i was just worried other ubuntu version was being installed
[17:35] <forehelp> but aparently not
[17:36] <forehelp> its just the case that on older systems the base-files is not being updated
[17:36] <forehelp> when on new ones it is
[17:36] <forehelp> k1l: 3.13.0-101.148 to be more exact
[17:37] <forehelp> i do understand it is old, however i do have to keep that one for the time being
[17:38] <i7ch> right now i`m on 16.04 and i`m having this damn error i can`t figure out: systemctl systemd-modules-load.service has failed.
[17:38] <i7ch> and for the life of me i can`t figure out why
[17:39] <fsdfsdf> guys can someone help me with this error?
[17:39] <fsdfsdf> https://imgur.com/a/F3Ijk
[17:40] <dimisdas> i7ch: try “sudo systemctl status systemd-modules-load.service” and link the output
[17:41] <rrichardsr3> I have a project where we deploy our application to ubuntu. It uses github to pull the code down to the servers. We have ssh-forwarding enabled so github looks at our local keys in order to authorize pulling the code. I had to recently spin up an older ubuntu server AMI at amazon and it seems that somewhere these keys are being cached because nobody can
[17:41] <rrichardsr3> deploy. They get the 'permission denied' from github. My keys still work. Is there anywhere on ubuntu that would cache or save keys used with ssh-forwarding? these people can still ssh into the server however. Very strange.
[17:42] <fsdfsdf> can someone help me?
[17:42] <fsdfsdf> * tnli_ (tnli@kapsi.fi) has joined
[17:42] <fsdfsdf> * nathan__ (~nathan@204.185.254.100) has left
[17:42] <i7ch> dimisdas, failed (result: exit-code)
[17:42] <i7ch> status=1/failure
[17:43] <fsdfsdf> can someone help me? https://imgur.com/a/F3Ijk
[17:43] <i7ch> sorry, can`t link. i only have cli on that machine
[17:44] <Irreparable> dimisdas: I feared as much, thank you for the information, guess I'll have to step up my googlefoo some more, lol
[17:44] <i7ch> dimisdas, failed (result: exit-code) status=1/failure
[17:45] <dimisdas> i7ch: is that all? Or you can’t paste the rest.
[17:45] <dimisdas> i7ch: sudo systemctl status systemd-modules-load.service | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:46] <i7ch> ok, lemme nc it
[17:46] <ioria> i7ch, virtualbox installed ?
[17:46] <i7ch> ioria, vmware
[17:46] <ioria> i7ch, maybe it's the culprit
[17:46] <i7ch> hmm
[17:46] <i7ch> can you explain .. ?
[17:47] <i7ch> dimisdas, http://termbin.com/u6h3
[17:49] <Irreparable> welp, I'm off to trying something new, I hopefully won't be back (soon) so I wish everyone a nice weekend, hah
[17:52] <ioria> i7ch, did you stopped an upgrade ?
[17:52] <i7ch> ioria, noup
[17:53] <i7ch> tried the "de facto" fix for this issue. updating, upgrading, -f install, dpkg-configure -a, etc
[17:53] <i7ch> none worked :(
[17:53] <ioria> i7ch,  can you boot in Recovery ?
[17:53] <i7ch> ioria, yes, i can
[17:53] <i7ch> i'm in recovery mode with root account right now
[17:54] <ioria> i7ch,  i was suggesting what you 've already  done ...
[17:54] <i7ch> yeah. been reading all the google result from like .. 3 pages :D
[17:54] <linton> what kernel version? (name -r)
[17:55] <i7ch> 4.4.0-64-generic
[17:55] <linton> hmm, ok
[17:56] <ioria> i7ch,  some extra parameters in the kernel boot line   ?    dmesg | grep Kernel
[17:56] <dimisdas> sorry DC/ed
[17:56] <dimisdas> i7ch: I can’t tell which module is failing. Best guess would be to restart “systemctl restart systemd-modules-load.service” and then nc the status again
[17:58] <i7ch> dimisdas, restarting systemd-modules-load.service is failing
[17:58] <i7ch> " ..has failed because the control process exited with error code .. "
[17:58] <i7ch> nothing of interest there
[17:59] <i7ch> ioria, check http://termbin.com/1mbg
[18:01] <ohcanada> hello. is there a problem with the latest (and now withdrawn) xenial 4.4.0-65 kernel?
[18:01] <i7ch> also, here`s some output from journalctl -xe: http://termbin.com/45oj
[18:02] <i7ch> all i can see wrong is "mar 03 19:57:16 cube systemd-modules-load[1250]: Failed to insert 'f71882fg': Device or resource busy"
[18:02] <i7ch> but even if i blacklist that module, i get the same issue
[18:04] <wincs> Hi. I noticed some weird behavior and I'd like to know if it's normal. When I browse a network share (samba or sshfs, doesn't matter) using ubuntus (16-04) file manager, after some time of inactivity, the folder changes to its parents
[18:04] <wincs> so if i'm initally at /home/wincs/networkfolder/pictures/
[18:04] <wincs> after 5 minutes it will go back to /home/wincs/networkfolder/
[18:04] <wincs> and after some time, to /home/wincs..
[18:04] <wincs> etc, until the root of the shared folder
[18:05] <ohcanada> now see, i reverted back from 4.8 16.04.2 kernel because of unresolved errors in the tun/tap and /proc filesystem. now 4.4 has gone west, it seems. does anyone have any idea what is happening with the kernel team, or do they just release untested nonsense, as a matter of course?
[18:06] <dimisdas> i7ch: The disk contains an unclean file system (and later) Failed to mount '/dev/sdd1': Operation not permitted
[18:06] <i7ch> that`s a ssd with WIN10 on it, if i't not mistaking
[18:08] <dimisdas> i7ch: sorry for my short-memory, but isn’t this running in a vmware?
[18:09] <i7ch> dimisdas, noup. i have vmware installed on it. but linux is a host not guest
[18:09] <i7ch> sorry for the confusion
[18:11] <Auprivave> anyone here running wordpress with Nginx?
[18:12] <ohcanada> Auprivave: as a matter of fact, yes sir
[18:12] <dimisdas> i7ch: take a look at this http://superuser.com/a/1074637
[18:13] <i7ch> 10x
[18:14] <ohcanada> Auprivave: nginx, php7, mariadb with http/2 ssl and all the trimmings
[18:14] <Auprivave> ohcanada, great :) I get a 502 bad gateway. can i paste my block file in a msg to you?
[18:15] <RoseAleria> Does anyone know if the 3G internet dongle called "D-Link DWM-157" works on Ubuntu?
[18:15] <ohcanada> Auprivave: pm me a link to a paste, rather than flooding me :)
[18:22] <frib> if I boot an ubuntu .iso directly from grub, is it running in EFI mode?
[18:22] <linton> Auprivave: if its a config type issue, you could check out nanobox.io, they help relieve config/devops concerns
[18:23] <sadupgrades> hi all i just tried to upgrade from 14 to 16 via do-release-upgrade and when i try to boot it can't.  When i go into the live cd and chroot, i now get http://dpaste.com/3TZ9209
[18:24] <sadupgrades> any ideas how to properly fix that?
[18:26] <k1l> sadupgrades: let me guess: /boot partition is full?
[18:26] <sadupgrades> yeah it was
[18:26] <sadupgrades> i cleaned it out now
[18:26] <sadupgrades> can't get it to regenerate all the proper files
[18:27] <sadupgrades> k1l: is ther ea specific command i should run to reinstall all the proper kernel images etc. there?
[18:27] <k1l> sadupgrades: sudo apt install -f
[18:28] <sadupgrades> k1l: http://dpaste.com/1WBCYBN
[18:28] <sadupgrades> same error?
[18:29] <k1l> sudo apt install --reinstall linux-image-4.4.0-64-generic
[18:29] <sadupgrades> E: Internal Error, No file name for linux-image-4.4.0-64-generic:amd64
[18:31] <nacc> sadupgrades: do you have a separate /boot? is it mounted?
[18:32] <sadupgrades> nacc yes it is separate and i mounted it at /boot
[18:32] <sadupgrades> http://dpaste.com/1DNGS9X
[18:34] <nacc> i think that implies dpkg is in an incosistent state (Internal Error). It's useful to pastebin the full output
[18:34] <nacc> sadupgrades: --^
[18:35] <nacc> sadupgrades: you might try a `sudo dpkg --configure -a`
[18:35] <sadupgrades> nacc: where would i find the full output http://dpaste.com/1WBCYBN has the complete one of the apt-get install -f
[18:35] <nacc> sadupgrades: e.g, you  ran `sudo apt install --reinstall linux-image-4.4.0-64-generic`. Was the only output the line with 'E: ...' ?
[18:36] <sadupgrades> nacc: http://dpaste.com/3PQRRQD is the full output of that
[18:36] <sadupgrades> the dpkg --configure -a
[18:36] <nacc> k1l: might need a force removal and reinstall?
[18:37] <sadupgrades> nacc: http://dpaste.com/2ZEX03H is the full --reinstall.... command
[18:37] <sadupgrades> nacc: sure happy to try that - what would be the best route ?
[18:37] <nacc> sadupgrades: right, need to remove it first, i think -- for some reason dpkg things it is done configuring (extracting) the package even though it is not
[18:38] <nacc> sadupgrades: `sudo dpkg -P linux-image-4.4.0-64-generic`
[18:38] <sadupgrades> http://dpaste.com/0CQ6CJZ
[18:38] <nacc> sadupgrades: `sudo dpkg -P linux-image-4.4.0-64-generic linux-image-generic linux-image-extra-4.4.0-64-generic`
[18:39] <sadupgrades> nacc: http://dpaste.com/0W3YD30
[18:40] <sadupgrades> i got the pattern of add the dependency
[18:40] <sadupgrades> but should i add the linux too? just want to make sure that isn't one i really shouldn't pruge
[18:40] <nacc> sadupgrades: add --dry-run (beofre -P) and add linux
[18:41] <nacc> sadupgrades: dry-run will keep it from doing anything
[18:41] <sadupgrades> http://dpaste.com/1WEBGX6
[18:41] <sadupgrades> looks ok
[18:41] <sadupgrades> ?
[18:42] <nacc> sadupgrades: yeah, i think that's fine -- we're going to immediately reinstall those packages anyways
[18:42] <nacc> sadupgrades: if that completes, run `apt install linux`
[18:42] <nacc> with sudo
[18:42] <sadupgrades> completed running that now
[18:42] <sadupgrades> had no package named linux
[18:42] <nacc> sadupgrades: ok, `sudo apt install linux-generic`
[18:43] <sadupgrades> installing awesome!
[18:43] <sadupgrades> do i need to do something to update grub too after all this?
[18:43] <nacc> sadupgrades: I think it should do it automatically, but you can always run `sudo update-grub` manually
[18:43] <Zythyr> Need help. I am trying to install fbida. However, when I use "make", I get error: Make.config:1 *** Empty variable name. Stop https://www.kraxel.org/releases/fbida/
[18:44] <nacc> Zythyr: probably should contact fbida for help with their software
[18:45] <sadupgrades> awesome going to give a reboot attempt here hopefully it will work
[18:45] <sadupgrades> thanks nacc
[18:45] <nacc> sadupgrades: gl!
[18:46] <wincs> Hey. so why when I leave a network folder open, after some time of inactivity, it goes back to its parent folder?
[18:51] <sadupgrades> nacc: hm still goes directly to grub rescue
[18:52] <nacc> sadupgrades: i wonder if you need to run `grub-install` or something to repair it -- EriC^^, maybe you know?
[18:52] <nacc> sadupgrades: were any kernels listed on the grub menu?
[18:52] <sadupgrades> it just went directly into rescue mode
[18:52] <EriC^^> sadupgrades: what's up?
[18:53] <sadupgrades> one sec let me get irc opened on diff computer so i can reboot without losing you
[18:53] <sadupdates> EriC^^, when i boot grub just goes directly into rescue mode
[18:53] <nacc> EriC^^: it was a failed dist-upgrade (/boot full, i think)
[18:53] <EriC^^> sadupdates: you mean grub rescue> ?
[18:54] <sadupdates> EriC^^, yep
[18:54] <EriC^^> sadupdates: do you have a live usb you could boot?
[18:56] <scottjl> wincs: probably because the network folder times out
[18:56] <sadupdates> yes one second so i ran grub-install /dev/sda and /dev/sdb - and rebooted
[18:56] <sadupdates> now it just sits as a screen that says GRUB
[18:56] <sadupdates> and nothing else
[18:56] <wincs> scottjl: is there any parameter to keep it alive?
[18:56] <EriC^^> sadupdates: ok boot the live usb and come here
[18:56] <sadupdates> EriC^^, booting to live cd
[18:56] <scottjl> wincs: maybe. but i don't know your network or your server.
[18:57] <wincs> my server is actually a raspberry pi, i'm connecting to it using sshfs
[18:57] <sadupdates> EriC^^, want me to get chrooted?
[18:57] <EriC^^> sadupdates: not yet
[18:57] <sadupdates> ok what should i do?
[18:57] <scottjl> wincs: sorry, i don't use sshfs
[18:57] <EriC^^> sadupdates: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:57] <DarekDeo> Hi, I have problem with gedit (and LibreOffice) invoking search after system suspend on Ubuntu 16.04.1 and 16.04.2. After resuming system from suspend when I open gedit and open search (no matter if I use shortcut or open search option by mouse clicking on it) I can only type one letter or paste clipboard, after that search dialog closes immediately. When I restart lightdm service or reboot PC everything works normal. Also I have no problems with search
[18:57] <DarekDeo> feature in other software.
[18:57] <wincs> i'll try to look it up
[18:58] <scottjl> look for something regarding timeouts
[18:58] <forehelp> What do you guys suggest, i keep running into problems with small /boot partitions... shoudl i just get rid of them completely and have all in / or make /boot to something like 500mb ?
[18:58] <sadupdates1> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/3iza
[18:59] <EriC^^> forehelp: yeah /boot is unnecessary
[18:59] <dx486> DarekDeo, FYI, it doesn't happen in my 16.10 system
[19:00] <pavlos> forehelp, apt autoremove should clean /boot and keep 2 most recent kernels
[19:00] <EriC^^> sadupdates1: don't know much about raid, assemble it and mount everything under /mnt and mount --bind and chroot
[19:00] <scottjl> forehelp: these days you can skip separate boot. i have 250 production servers and don't use separate boot, root volume is 32G
[19:01] <EriC^^> sadupdates1: is sda the disk that's set to be booted in the bios?
[19:01] <sadupdates1> yes i believe so
[19:01] <sadupdates1> all set chrooted in
[19:01] <sadupdates1> with /boot mounted to /dev/sda1
[19:02] <forehelp> Thanks pavlos, sottjl and EriC^^ just need to find out now how to make preseed not ask if i want to make sure i dont need the /boot -.-
[19:02] <EriC^^> can't really think of anything to do here sadupdates1 except grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[19:02] <EriC^^> sadupdates1: then update-grub
[19:02] <DarekDeo> dx486, might be 16.10, what version of gedit do you have?
[19:02] <EriC^^> sadupdates1: take a look in /boot/grub also and see if the modules are there under the <arch> dir
[19:03] <EriC^^> sadupdates1: also check the config file /boot/grub/grub.cfg as nacc said
[19:03] <dx486> DarekDeo, 3.22.0
[19:03] <sadupdates1> EriC^^: can i install grub also to /dev/sdb to be sure?
[19:03] <EriC^^> sadupdates1: sure
[19:03] <DarekDeo> dx486, 3.18 here, I'll try to update gedit
[19:04] <dx486> DarekDeo, okay
[19:04] <sadupdates1> EriC^^: hmm there is no grub.cfg in /boot/grub
[19:04] <EriC^^> sadupdates1: try df -h /boot
[19:04] <sadupdates1> http://dpaste.com/2VFMTTR
[19:05] <nacc> hrm, that's grub1?
[19:05] <sadupdates1> EriC^^: 83% with 37M available
[19:05] <sadupdates1> nacc: ah should i upgrade?
[19:05] <nacc> sadupdates1: i feel like maybe you're not fully upgraded yet
[19:05] <nacc> sadupdates1: have you checked via `apt update; apt full-upgrade` ?
[19:05] <sadupdates1> yep says none not upgraded
[19:05] <nacc> sadupdates1: 16.04 is grub2 based, it should have updated during the release upgrade; but since it was interrupted maybe it's in an inconsistent state
[19:06] <sadupdates1> ok should i just purge grub and install grub2
[19:06] <nacc> sadupdates1: `apt-cache policy grub2`
[19:06] <sadupdates1> http://dpaste.com/19DRFYM
[19:06] <EriC^^> sadupdates1: give "apt-get -f install && dpkg --configure -a"   a run too
[19:06] <sadupdates1> for both for good fit
[19:07] <nacc> sadupdates1: thanks, reading
[19:07] <sadupdates1> EriC^^: no change
[19:07] <sadupdates1> i'm happy to just uninstall grub and reinstall grub2?
[19:07] <EriC^^> i'm for it
[19:07] <sadupdates1> kk doing
[19:08] <nacc> i think it's fine, but something else is off
[19:08] <nacc> linux-image-generic should have updated grub, ithought
[19:08] <nacc> ah maybe not
[19:08] <nacc> maybe because grub never got uninstalled and it also satisfies the dep
[19:09] <sadupdates1> ok so will give a reboot now?
[19:09] <EriC^^> sadupdates1: ok, unless nacc has anything else to do
[19:10] <sadupdates1> ok brb!
[19:10] <nacc> yeah, i think that it's sane to ry now
[19:10] <nacc> *try
[19:10] <sadupdates> grr just sits at screen with "GRUB _" cursor blinking
[19:11] <EriC^^> try pressing esc or c
[19:11] <EriC^^> make sure sda is first in the bios
[19:11] <sadupdates> ahh it was bootting to the other drive
[19:12] <nacc> heh
[19:13] <sadupdates> thanks guys so much
[19:13] <sadupdates> now i can go catch my flight
[19:13] <nacc> sadupdates: safe travels :)
[19:13] <sadupdates> nacc, EriC^^ thanks again really appreciate it
[19:13] <nacc> !cookie | EriC^^
[19:14] <EriC^^> np, have a good one
[19:14] <EriC^^> yum :D
[19:37] <markot> Hello everyone
[19:38] <timyp> Hello markot
[19:40] <gebruiker> how can I upgrade ubuntu from 16.04 lts to 16.10?
[19:40] <boze> I have an odd one. Some times after mashing shortcuts my keyboard layout will seemingly change. I click the little "En" in the system tray and it says it's still on english, but when I click it they keyboard goes back to normal. I did delete the colemak layout from the list of options recently
[19:41] <nacc> gebruiker: edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades to Prompt=normal, then run `do-release-upgrade -d` iirc
[19:43] <markot> I am having problems with USB3 mass media devices. E.g. I have a HDD enclosure, which is correctly recognized, but it still keeps resetting for some reason (uas_eh_bus_reset_handler). Are you familiar with this kind of problem?
[19:44] <genii> markot: Do you have a pastebin of the dmesg output?
[19:45] <markot> genii: https://in.karhunmaki.fi/usb3_resets_problem.txt
[19:45] <OerHeks> gebruiker, switch lts > lts to any version in updates, done
[19:45] <markot> genii: please ask, if you need more information
[19:47] <markot> genii: So Sandisk USB stick worked, but HDD enclosure did not. I can also reproduce this problem with another external HDD.
[19:49] <arooni> my mom's windows computer got hacked and debating installing ubuntu desktop.  she just uses her comp for browsing + document creation.  is ubuntu a good choice for that?  would also make remote admin of her machine easier
[19:50] <akik> arooni: yes. you can't go wrong
[19:51] <blackrabbit> arooni, document creation?
[19:51] <arooni> like wordprocessing
[19:51] <blackrabbit> libre office is shit, she will hate it
[19:51] <arooni> well wps writer is pretty good
[19:51] <arooni> i use that on my laptop
[19:52] <axisys> anyone know how to explore shrepoint contents? I need to get some data from sharepoint unfortunately.
[19:52] <OerHeks> blackrabbit, not helpfull, lo is fine
[19:53] <blackrabbit> OerHeks, I am using it myself, but you can't really skip from excel 2016 to Libre office Calc
[19:53] <arooni> btw speaking of my laptop; anyone know how to deal with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1566302 ... seems like there are no answers
[19:53] <axisys> I need to access https://home.example.net/livelink/llisapi.dll?func=ll&objId=35295609&objAction=browse&sort=name&viewType=1
[19:54] <OerHeks> arooni, old kernel, won't fix .. if it happens again on 4.4.0-64, file a bugreport
[19:54] <arooni> i have that kernel version and its still occuring
[19:54] <arooni> i didnt know bugs were tied to a kernel version; but i guess it makes sense
[19:57] <arooni> anyway to get the 4.4.8 kernel ?
[19:57] <arooni> and stay at 16.04
[19:58] <genii> markot: For some reason when you plug in the enclosure, it sees a hard drive, but also an optical drive ( DVD)
[19:59] <OerHeks> arooni, HWE gives 4.8 kernel iirc
[19:59] <OerHeks> !hwe
[19:59] <arooni> also; according to http://askubuntu.com/questions/836260/how-can-i-use-16-10-yakkety-kernel-in-16-04-xenial ;; The second point release for Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) is scheduled for February 16th, 2017. It will be powered by Linux kernel 4.8 replacing the currently used 4.4 branch. ... i have 16.04.2 ; but my kernel doesn't seem to be 4.8 ?
[20:01] <nacc> arooni: you have to opt-in if upgrading
[20:01] <nacc> !hwe | arooni
[20:03] <markot> genii: Thanks. Could you elaborate how did you figured out that it also sees the enclosure as a optical drive?
[20:07] <arooni> nacc: ok i opted in with  sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04  ;; so now all i need to do is restart?
[20:08] <OerHeks> If you want to run that kernel, yes
[20:08] <nacc> arooni: right
[20:08] <arooni> oh man
[20:08] <arooni> i'm so excited
[20:08] <arooni> i'll be able to do so many more things now
[20:08] <arooni> like .. maybe resume my laptop from suspend lol
[20:09] <arooni> [w/o a kernel panic]
[20:11] <markot> Should I file a bug report about this problem?
[20:11] <genii> markot: HDD plugin: [  +0,000006] sd 18:0:0:0: [sdf] tag#1 CDB: Write(10) 2a 00 04 40 ad 00 00 04 00 00
[20:11] <genii> 2a=10 bytes incoming, including myself. 00=test unit ready. 04=format. 40=change definition. ad=read DVD structure. 00 00=test unit ready 2 times. 04=format. 00 00= test unit ready 2 times again.
[20:11] <genii> SanDisk plugin: [  +0,000530] sd 17:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg9 type 0    sgX devices are optical drives
[20:12] <markot> genii: Oki. I see.
[20:13] <hannibal> hello everyone
[20:14] <markot> genii: On this (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1624917) bug report Volden says that similar problem is "possible UAS module bug"
[20:14] <markot> Oh. Nice bot :-)
[20:14] <pentium4_ubuntu> Hi.
[20:14] <markot> ubottu: Thank you bot.
[20:15] <arooni> well this kernel seems to be working a lot better in terms of resuming from suspend without a kernel panic!  i have gotten so use to this; i forgot how nice it was
[20:15] <arooni> good job kernel + ubuntu devs :)
[20:16] <pentium4_ubuntu> trying to install Lubuntu on an old Pentium4/1GB im getting stuck at installer with a blank screen. Memtest86+ and HDD disk are OK. BIOS restored to defaults and other devices (PCI) removed
[20:16] <OerHeks> have fun, arooni
[20:17] <genii> markot: Have you tried to update the USB device listings yet? ( with sudo update-usbids )
[20:17] <arooni> for my mom's computer it has a core2duo processor;  and 2-4GB of ram.  do i need 32 bit or 64 build of ubuntu for her?
[20:17] <pentium4_ubuntu> where I can see a "installer progress trace" (CTRL+ALT+F1-6 doesnt work) to guess what's happening?
[20:17] <sojusnik> On Ubuntu Gnome 16.10 the Gnome-Shell is sporadically crashing after unlocking the lock-screen. Restarting it (Alt+F2, then r) helps, but gets annoying over time. I'm trying to locate the source, but need help. The crash happened around 20:53:21 - 35, the appropriate log is to be found here: https://paste.gnome.org/ppacprpov Thanks for helping!
[20:17] <genii> markot: ...because there may be a new definition available for that enclosure or sandisk which doesn't make it think there's a DVD attached
[20:18] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu, what lubuntu exactly ? 16.04 ?
[20:18] <pentium4_ubuntu> 16.04, yes ioria
[20:18] <markot> genii: Yep. Will do that.
[20:18] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu, do you get the Main Menu ? install, try, etc. etc ?
[20:19] <pentium4_ubuntu> ioria yes. advanced options didnt seem to work either
[20:19] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu, how did you do the usb stick ?
[20:19] <pentium4_ubuntu> rufus, twice. before that tried with unetbootin
[20:20] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  try to press F6 and select nomodeset
[20:20] <pentium4_ubuntu> already, save result
[20:20] <pentium4_ubuntu> *nolacpi and others also tried
[20:20] <pentium4_ubuntu> *same
[20:21] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  when exactly do you get stuck ?
[20:21] <pentium4_ubuntu> at the very beginning
[20:21] <pentium4_ubuntu> just after selecting install in both, destop or alternate
[20:21] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  you press 'try lubuntu' and then nothing ?
[20:22] <pentium4_ubuntu> not try, just install
[20:22] <pentium4_ubuntu> and, yes...nothing but emptyness :P
[20:22] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  try 'try lubuntu' with nomodeset selected ?
[20:23] <pentium4_ubuntu> to be honest, i dont think i did...neither i think it would work, but i can try...
[20:23] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  what is a desktop ?
[20:23] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  or laptop ?
[20:23] <pentium4_ubuntu> desktop/tower. asrock ge pro-ht
[20:24] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  what video card ?
[20:24] <markot> genii: Downloaded new version of the USB ID list, unmounted&removed and inserted&mounted back the enclosure. http://pastebin.com/CijcpvxF
[20:24] <markot> genii: Will test next, if this had any impact for the copy problem.
[20:25] <pentium4_ubuntu> integrated
[20:25] <genii> markot: OK.
[20:25] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  SiS® 651 chipset
[20:26] <pentium4_ubuntu> and that implies...?
[20:26] <BluesKaj> oops
[20:27] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  you probably have a sis video card ... not good
[20:27] <BluesKaj> my ethenet cable has wonky connector
[20:28] <pentium4_ubuntu> not good= cant install, ot even in 800*600?
[20:29] <OerHeks> agp 4x, maybe the vesa driver will work on that >> vga=791  http://askubuntu.com/questions/849481/force-vesa-driver-in-ubuntu-16-10
[20:29] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  but you also have a AGP slot ... so you can find , if it dosen't work, an agp video card (nvidia or ati)
[20:29] <OerHeks> 791 = (1024x768 16bit).
[20:29] <pentium4_ubuntu> ioria: yes. i can find some AGPs, but would it worth it xD
[20:29] <townes127> Hi. Not 100% where to start researching this. I want a quick way to reboot my laptop to console only (e.g. no X loaded). I often use my laptop remotely but would rather not have X/and my windows manager etc sucking RAM when I only need a CLI
[20:30] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  why not ? have you tried 'try ubuntu' with nomodeset ?
[20:30] <genii> markot: dmesg indicates: [  +0,000803] sd 9:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0  ...which makes me think it's going to still keep trying to read DVD filesystem structure from the hard drive
[20:30] <pentium4_ubuntu> ioria: not yet... "burning usb"
[20:31] <pentium4_ubuntu> alternate image doesnt have a try option
[20:31] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  you can also remove 'quite  splash' from the kernel boot line, pressing 'e' or 'tab'
[20:31] <pentium4_ubuntu> on menu, isnt it?
[20:31] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  alternate ? i don't remember.... don't you have desktop already ?
[20:32] <pentium4_ubuntu> just burned!
[20:32] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  what ? alternate ?
[20:33] <pentium4_ubuntu> hmmm...it worth mentioning HDD surface test stopped at 34GB/40GB
[20:33] <pentium4_ubuntu> no, just burned desktop. going to try "try+nomodeset"
[20:33] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  you mean bad hd ?
[20:34] <pentium4_ubuntu> and it suddenly resume
[20:34] <pentium4_ubuntu> that's suspicious...
[20:34] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  check the pata/ide cable
[20:35] <markot> genii: First reset happened after 5 minutes (about 20GiB) of copying: http://pastebin.com/9VU8f20w
[20:35] <pentium4_ubuntu> it had 2, one for HDD one for CD. changed before surface test
[20:35] <pentium4_ubuntu> going to try, brb
[20:36] <markot> genii: How about Volden's comment here about UAS being the culprit? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1624917
[20:38] <pentium4_ubuntu> ioria: try+nomodeset = black screen
[20:38] <pentium4_ubuntu> and...kernbel panic! at least something new!!!
[20:38] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  may i suggest you 14.04 ?
[20:38] <markot> genii: Is disabling the UAS the way to go? Seems that I have been affected by this same bug.
[20:38] <ossifrage> I'm trying to install 16.10 in a vm (vmware workstation 12) and the installer is drawing off the screen (and for some reason tab does not navigate through the ui elements)
[20:39] <sojusnik> On Ubuntu Gnome 16.10 the Gnome-Shell is sporadically crashing after unlocking the lock-screen. Restarting it (Alt+F2, then r) helps, but gets annoying over time. I'm trying to locate the source, but need help. The crash happened around 20:53:21 - 35, the appropriate log is to be found here https://paste.gnome.org/ppacprpov and https://paste.gnome.org/pqivayhbk (taken from /var/log/syslog) Thanks for helping!
[20:39] <nacc> ossifrage: sounds like an issue with vmware?
[20:39] <pentium4_ubuntu> ioria: how much confident are u in 14.04 running?
[20:39] <pentium4_ubuntu> I would love to know more about sis 651 issue
[20:39] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  good question
[20:39] <ossifrage> nacc,  it looks more like a layout issue with the installer, because it knows the bounds of the screen (the top bar is in the correct place)
[20:40] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu, do you have an ethernet card ?
[20:40] <pentium4_ubuntu> and...could you know where the problem could be with kernel panic details?
[20:40] <genii> markot: seems similar. But they are getting a different series of SCSI commands than your original. And your new paste has a different set then both your previous paste, and his.
[20:40] <pentium4_ubuntu> yes, integrated but untested
[20:40] <genii> then/than
[20:41] <ossifrage> Prety much every dialog is drawing the next/back (?) buttons off the screen
[20:41] <OerHeks> pentium4_ubuntu, basicly: that SiS bord with agp 4x is so old, maybe the vesa driver will work on that >> vga=791  http://askubuntu.com/questions/849481/force-vesa-driver-in-ubuntu-16-10
[20:41] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  have you removed 'quiet splash ' ?
[20:41] <genii> markot: It occurs to me that the USB may be hibernating
[20:41] <OerHeks> else it is a paperweight/doorstopper/boatanchor
[20:41] <pentium4_ubuntu> ioria: not yet...just tested try+nomodeset
[20:42] <pentium4_ubuntu> and (finallly) got a kernel panic
[20:42] <pentium4_ubuntu> may I?
[20:42] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  try, if it gets balck open a console
[20:42] <ioria> *black
[20:42] <pentium4_ubuntu> lets try...
[20:42] <markot> genii: Same occurred me and I tried to disable USB hibernation features from the BIOS (could not find any setting related to USB hibernation though).
[20:42] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: you're trying sis with ubuntu 16.04? It won't work, you need 14.04.1
[20:43] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  ^ alkisg
[20:43] <alkisg> It's been removed in recent xorg versions
[20:43] <pentium4_ubuntu> ioria: try withoput quiet splash and....nomodeset?
[20:44] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  let's try, but in the meanwhile download 14.04
[20:44] <pentium4_ubuntu> ioria: ok
[20:44] <evgenij> hello!
[20:44] <ioria> alkisg, it's not working even with nomodeset ....
[20:44] <pentium4_ubuntu> alkisg: would it still work after upgrading packages, or shall i stay "freezed"?
[20:45] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: it'll work if you don't install the xorg hwe stack. You can upgrade fully, but only with 14.04.1, not with 14.04.5.
[20:45] <alkisg> ioria: I don't think it has a non-kms path, to work with nomodeset...
[20:45] <pentium4_ubuntu> alkisg: i was typing "14.04.5?"
[20:45] <ioria> alkisg, ok
[20:46] <pentium4_ubuntu> downloading
[20:46] <finexbeer> is cublinux good for programming
[20:47] <pentium4_ubuntu> hols a sec...is 14.04 desktop EOL?
[20:47] <ioria> alkisg, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
[20:47] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
[20:47] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  nope
[20:47] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu:  see http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xserver-xorg-video-sis for the latest time it was supported
[20:48] <pentium4_ubuntu> alkisg: let me read that
[20:48] <alkisg> !trusty
[20:48] <genii> markot: usb drivers are in the kernel now, there is an option to put in /etc/sysctl.conf but for the moment I forget the name of it
[20:48] <k1l> finexbeer: this questions doesnt make sense. and we only deal with technical ubuntu issues in here.
[20:48] <mrhall> hello someone know where can i download computer security from gollmann? Live free
[20:48] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  this one : 	lubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso
[20:48] <finexbeer> ok sorry
[20:49] <alkisg> Or 14.04.1, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04.1/release/
[20:49] <pentium4_ubuntu> not .1, .2....
[20:49] <alkisg> .1 still has the original xorg, just includes some updates
[20:49] <k1l> mrhall: no warez here
[20:49] <pentium4_ubuntu> .2? .3? .4?
[20:49] <genii> markot: usbcore.autosuspend=-1
[20:49] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: no, stick to .0 or to .1.
[20:50] <pentium4_ubuntu> 14.0 then ;)
[20:50] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: do you know the pci id of that card?
[20:50] <pentium4_ubuntu> no pci, integrated...
[20:50] <OerHeks> mrhall, pay for it.
[20:51] <zoid> oi! I'm having a weird issue with Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS. Whenever I login to my server I'm alerted to the number of packages that can be updated, and the number of those that are security updates. However for the past few weeks it says "7 packages can be updated. 7 updates are security updates." If I run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade it will still say 7 packages. For example today there were 23~ package updates available, after I
[20:51] <zoid> updated it still said 7 were still available. How do I fix this?
[20:51] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: intergrated also have pci-ids, you can see it with lspci -nn -k | grep -A 2 VGA
[20:51] <genii> markot: This can either be done in /etc/sysctl.conf  or add it to /etc/default/grub as:  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash usbcore.autosuspend=-1"   and then sudo update-grub
[20:51] <pentium4_ubuntu> alkisg: how to get a terminal?
[20:51] <pentium4_ubuntu> hirens?
[20:51] <markot> genii: if I add it /etc/sysctl.conf, how to enforce it to use?
[20:52] <genii> markot: reboot
[20:52] <klf> pentium4_ubuntu, can you watch 1080P HD on your p4 without hickups?
[20:52] <OerHeks> zoid, run apt full-upgrade
[20:52] <zoid> I'll give that a shot, thanks OerHeks.
[20:52] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: you can boot in text mode if you want
[20:52] <pentium4_ubuntu> klf: i haven't installed ubuntu yet
[20:52] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: or you can just wait until you download 14.04 :
[20:52] <pentium4_ubuntu> alkisg: tell me how, its slooooowwww
[20:52] <markot> genii: I see. So I add "usbcore.autosuspend=-1" anywhere in the file?
[20:52] <genii> markot: Yes, on a line of it's own
[20:53] <zoid> it worked!
[20:53] <zoid> thanks OerHeks
[20:53] <markot> genii: thanks. try that
[20:53] <genii> markot: I'll be back and forth from my computer because at work. But please let me know your results.
[20:53] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: the quickest way would be to press f6 when booting the live cd, and type "init=/bin/bash" there where you tried nomodeset
[20:53] <OerHeks> zoid, might be a kernel with that, too
[20:54] <markot> genii: Yep. I'll let you know.
[20:54] <pentium4_ubuntu> alkisg: on my way...
[20:54] <zoid> I'll be right back, have to restart my VPS.
[20:56] <pentium4_ubuntu> i would say it's stuck after NET registering (RCP: Registered tcp NFSv4.1 )
[20:56] <pentium4_ubuntu> burning 14.04
[20:57] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  it should work, but i think you'll have screen resolution issues
[20:58] <pentium4_ubuntu> ioria: define screen resolution issues
[20:58] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  low resolution
[20:58] <zoid> OerHeks, rebooted and everything is working gloriously. Thank you.
[20:58] <pentium4_ubuntu> lower than 1024?
[20:58] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  maybe
[20:58] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: when you typed init=/bin/bash, did you see a screen similar to this one? https://www.maketecheasier.com/assets/uploads/2009/12/ubuntukarmic-bootup-screen.png
[20:59] <OerHeks> have fun zoid
[20:59] <pentium4_ubuntu> didi someone sais raspberry pi? xd
[20:59] <pentium4_ubuntu> alkisg: do you mean on 16.04 or in 14.04?
[21:00] <alkisg> On 16.04
[21:00] <pentium4_ubuntu> not by default, but i added it with advanced
[21:00] <pentium4_ubuntu> 14.04 kernel panic
[21:01] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: it sounds like you misttyped something...
[21:01] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  for nomodeset, you just need to press f6
[21:01] <pentium4_ubuntu> on 14.04 advanced command...nomodeset? remove quiet splash?
[21:02] <pentium4_ubuntu> ioria: and select it on a popup menu
[21:02] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  sure
[21:02] <alkisg> pentium4_wait, you downloaded 14.04.1 i386 and it gives you kernel panic?
[21:02] <pentium4_ubuntu> yes, but without any special setting, like nomodeset
[21:02] <pentium4_ubuntu> 14.04
[21:02] <ioria> alkisg, i think he edite the kernel boot line wrongly
[21:03] <alkisg> He said without any special setting...hmmm...
[21:03] <pentium4_ubuntu> boot=casper integrity-check initrd=/casper/initrd.lz ---
[21:03] <pentium4_ubuntu> may i add nomodeset or quiet or splash?
[21:04] <pentium4_ubuntu> (14.04)
[21:04] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: try first with initrd=/casper/initrd.lz init=/bin/bash
[21:04] <ioria> pentium4_ubuntu,  boot 14.04 and press f6 then select nomodest... that's it
[21:04] <alkisg> If you don't get bash, there's no point in trying graphics
[21:05] <pentium4_ubuntu> alkisg: trying
[21:05] <pentium4_ubuntu> rebooted ???? xD
[21:06] <tubal> Hello. Can anyone recommend a good PDF app that isn't evince?
[21:07] <pentium4_ubuntu> boot=casper initrd=... init=/bin/bash reboots
[21:07] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: if instead of init=/bin/bash, you put break=top, do you get a shell?
[21:08] <pentium4_ubuntu> should i remove boot=casper ?
[21:08] <alkisg> No
[21:09] <pentium4_ubuntu> boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.lz break=top --
[21:09] <pentium4_ubuntu> kernel panic
[21:09] <markot> genii: Machine booted, after 17GiB happened first reset: http://pastebin.com/gkzDYxSw
[21:09] <bazhang> http://www.tecmint.com/linux-pdf-viewers-and-readers-tools/  okular tubal
[21:09] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: do you have any linux version/live cd that can boot there?
[21:09] <pentium4_ubuntu> alkisg: that's why im here for :P
[21:09] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: so that we see the hardare specifications?
[21:10] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: what's the kernel panic message?
[21:10] <genii> markot: Meh. And every time it hangs a different series of SCSI commands. I'm fresh out of ideas currently
[21:10] <pentium4_ubuntu> alkisg: one sec
[21:11] <pentium4_ubuntu> Code: Bad EIP value
[21:11] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: btw, how did you burn a CD so fast? Or are you using a live usb stick?
[21:11] <pentium4_ubuntu> Kernel panic: not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
[21:11] <pentium4_ubuntu> usb
[21:11] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: how are you creating the usb stick?
[21:11] <pentium4_ubuntu> "burning" iso with rufus
[21:12] <pentium4_ubuntu> before that tried unetbootin
[21:12] <markot> genii: Thank for your help anyway! What do you think about the option disable UAS?
[21:12] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: do you have another PC to test that live usb stick on?
[21:12] <tukruic> Hello, ive got weird problem, i cant start my laptop if i dont move ram around ; _ ; what could that be? i tried unplugging all, pressing power on for 30 seconds, nothing seems to help
[21:12] <pentium4_ubuntu> sure...the one im typing
[21:12] <pentium4_ubuntu> and another!
[21:13] <tukruic> what steps should i take to determine problem? :x
[21:13] <pentium4_ubuntu> but, TBH, i dont think its a usb issue...
[21:13] <tukruic> determine what's the problem*
[21:14] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: can you test the things we said, in this pc? I.e. both test that the live usb stick works, and that init=/bin/bash gives you a shell
[21:14] <pentium4_ubuntu> hirens boot cd also has a linux option, and it doenst work either
[21:14] <pentium4_ubuntu> il try to get a shell on another computer using this usb
[21:14] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: how do you know that you don't have a hardware problem? Is therre any OS that works?
[21:14] <OerHeks> vga=791 is your fix with that SiS board
[21:15] <pentium4_ubuntu> alkisg: it might be a hardware problem...how could I debug where it is?
[21:15] <pentium4_ubuntu> apart from that, the "same" problem happens on other equal computers
[21:15] <pentium4_ubuntu> (same motherboards)
[21:16] <pentium4_ubuntu> would it be ok to boot an initramfs?
[21:16] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: there might be a #hardware channel to help you with that, I haven't checked
[21:17] <pentium4_ubuntu> alkisg: lol
[21:17] <alkisg> This is for ubuntu questions only...
[21:17] <genii> markot: " ASMedia ASM1051 (USB 3.0, UASP capable but due to problems blacklisted in mainline kernel) "  http://linux-sunxi.org/USB/UAS
[21:19] <alkisg> (11:16:17 μμ) pentium4_ubuntu: would it be ok to boot an initramfs? ==> that's what break=top does, and you said that it doesn't reach that far
[21:19] <alkisg> That's even before udev initialization, way before loading graphics drivers etc
[21:19] <pentium4_ubuntu> alkisg: kernel panic
[21:19] <alkisg> Yes, that's why it's not related to sis or possibly even to ubuntu at that point...
[21:19] <pentium4_ubuntu> ...the weird thing is that it seems this happens to more than 1 computer
[21:20] <alkisg> Test your usb stick on another computer
[21:20] <pentium4_ubuntu> on my way. brb
[21:22] <genii> markot: So you might consider putting uas on the blacklisted drivers in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and letting it fall back to whatever else it can use from usb-storage driver
[21:23] <markot> genii: Yeah. Will try that next. Thank you for your help. I need to go to sleep now.
[21:23] <markot> genii: Have a nice evening.
[21:24] <genii> markot: You're welcome. Good night!
[21:25] <tubal> bazhang, thanks. I'll look at that.
[21:25]  * genii makes more coffee
[21:26] <tubal> I notice that Adobe no longer has a version of Reader for Linux.
[21:27] <pentium4_ubuntu> alkisg: another computer, works perfectly
[21:28] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: sounds like a hardware problem then
[21:28] <plasticfish> tubal, you have evince which is open source
[21:29] <pentium4_ubuntu> alkisg: i know program obsolescence...but in many computers?
[21:29] <pentium4_ubuntu> at the same time?
[21:29] <pentium4_ubuntu> weird...
[21:29] <tubal> plasticfish, I've been using evince. But it just hung up X on me, and I have no patience for that.
[21:29] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: I'm not sure what you meannnn. Are you saying that the usb stick works in some computers, and fails with the same message in many other computers?
[21:30] <dx486> tubal, https://alternativeto.net/software/evince/?platform=linux
[21:30] <pentium4_ubuntu> alkisg: no. the usb work on a DELL computer
[21:30] <pentium4_ubuntu> but, around 10 computers with this motherboard aren't able to install
[21:30] <tubal> dx486, thanks.
[21:31] <pentium4_ubuntu> i picked up 1 to test it by my own
[21:31] <pentium4_ubuntu> (the other guy knows how to install, but was having problems and ask for help)
[21:31] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: I would test [1] with a live cd, not usb, and [2] with a really old ubuntu version like 10.04
[21:32] <pentium4_ubuntu> alkisg: screw 10.04, better to buy a PI
[21:32] <tubal> plasticfish, I also found that evince would open taking up the whole usable viewport space. No maximized, just taking all of it. and there was no way to get a handle to resize the window.
[21:32] <alkisg> pentium4_ubuntu: that would be just for troubleshooting
[21:32] <pentium4_ubuntu> tried ramfs bundled with hirens and neither work
[21:32] <alkisg> We have more than 10.000 pentium 4's in greece working fine with ubuntu 12.04
[21:33] <alkisg> And more than 1000 have sis cards
[21:33] <alkisg> But your problem is not the graphics card nor the processor
[21:34] <pentium4_ubuntu> asrock quality motherboard then?
[21:40] <pentium4_ubuntu> alkisg: ill try to boot on those computers, but they probably have the same issue. If none of them work, ill dump them and buy newer ones or pi's
[21:40] <pentium4_ubuntu> thanks a lot for your time and affort
[21:40] <pentium4_ubuntu> *effort
[21:40] <pentium4_ubuntu> have a nice weekend!
[21:40] <alkisg> You too.
[21:41] <alkisg> I would start by trying a really old ubuntu version
[21:46] <foul_owl> How do I use a certain java binary to call ant, and every sub process / script that that ant processes invokes java for also? Normally I would just use "update-alternatives" and set the systemwide java to the one I need, but in this case, there are other processes on the system that use a different java, and I can't interfere with those. Thanks!
[21:47] <foul_owl> And of course, normally I could also just do /full/path/to/java but it seems like that would work _only_ for ant, and not any sub processes or other steps in the build process
[21:48] <blueking> cp file.. what flag to set to see progress ?
[21:48] <genii> -v
[21:49] <shalinsfinest> Does anyone know of a good VPN which is easy to install and has a Graphical Interface (NOT THROUGH NETWORK MANAGER)?
[21:49] <plasticfish> tubal have you tried calibre?
[21:50] <genii> blueking: cp does not have any way to see how much of a file has been copied, but -v will show filenames as they are being copied when you are recursively copying, or a bunch at once
[21:51] <blueking> okie
[21:55] <ppf> any idea which package provides libcras.so?
[21:55] <nacc> ppf: none afaict
[21:56] <nacc> ppf: at least not in latest
[21:56] <nacc> ppf: `apt-file` is your friend, though :)
[21:56] <ppf> apt-file doesn't know it
[21:56] <ppf> hence i'm asking :)
[21:57] <k1l> no package in the repos for that
[21:57] <texla> How do I save and exit from Nano editor tried usinf ^o and^x
[21:57] <k1l> ppf: using chrubuntu?
[21:58] <ppf> no, ubuntu on a pi, trying to get chrome to run
[21:59] <ppf> texla: ^O to save, ^X to exit
[21:59] <ppf> k1l: any idea where to get it besides the repos?
[21:59] <k1l> texla: ctrl+x
[22:00] <texla> k1l, Thanks
[22:05] <blueking> I can make one folder bigger with adding files from another hdd's folder  'glue em to one' ?
[22:06] <max3> how do i debug why a call by an app to sendmail wouldn't be working
[22:07] <max3> \/var/mail/user (user that runs the app) is empty
[22:08] <viccuad> hi folks. So I got a "package linux-image-extra-4.40-65-generic needs to be reinstalled". From what I read here, https://askubuntu.com/questions/889126/package-linux-image-4-4-0-65-generic-needs-to-be-reinstalled
[22:08] <viccuad> seems that the package was shipped and later taken out of circulation?
[22:10] <viccuad> and that seems the truth, looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=xenial&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=linux-image
[22:10] <viccuad> how is that even acceptable behaviour?
[22:11] <nacc> viccuad: it's in proposed
[22:11] <nacc> viccuad: as to why, if it did reach the release pocket, it did -- contact #ubuntu-kernel
[22:12] <viccuad> nacc: my problem is that I don't have access to the system, as it is a friends' laptop, so I cannot debug it as I would like
[22:13] <viccuad> but looking at packages.ubuntu.com baffles me
[22:13] <nacc> viccuad: ah it seems it was an accidental promotion
[22:13] <nacc> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+publishinghistory
[22:13] <nacc> specifically the deletion from xenial-updates of 4.4.0-65.86
[22:13] <viccuad> that seems really wrong
[22:14] <viccuad> I cannot but wonder about people paying canonical for support on LTS, and getting this
[22:16] <k1l> iirc there was another lower kernel build that got pushed from the security repo. but i dont know what the issue behind that is
[22:16] <OerHeks> viccuad, you run proposed, = not stable.
[22:16] <nacc> no, it was a mistake in release
[22:16] <nacc> OerHeks: --^
[22:16] <nacc> in this particular case
[22:17] <OerHeks> boot in 64, sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq  linux-image-4.4.0-65-generic # and you are fine
[22:17] <ppf> anyone ever got chrome to work on arm?
[22:18] <nacc> viccuad: from what i can gather, that update will go out eventually, it just happened early
[22:18] <nacc> viccuad: so there's nothing fundamentally wrong with being on that kernel; do you know what is emitting that message?
[22:18] <viccuad> nacc: so, eventually, it should be able to get the kernel? or would dpkg be broken?
[22:18] <k1l> ppf: android did :)
[22:19] <k1l> ppf: what what is the issue?
[22:19] <nacc> viccuad: yeah, eventually it should
[22:20] <nacc> viccuad: do you have the full logs of a command that emits that message?
[22:20] <nacc> viccuad: meaning the command and the ouptu (in a pastebin)
[22:20] <viccuad> nacc: no, sadly, I have a 640x480 screenshot done with a mobile phone from my friend, telling me that the dependencies for that package couldn't be met
[22:21] <nacc> viccuad: do you know if it was from apt or a GUI?
[22:21] <ppf> k1l: step one, obtain chrome
[22:21] <viccuad> nacc: GUI, yet I don't know which one, seems to be the automatic updates
[22:22] <viccuad> to add salt on it, it's in a different language
[22:22] <ppf> k1l: I copied one out of a chromeos image, trying to resolve the dependencies now. i'm down to libcras, but i've got no solid idea where to get that from
[22:23] <k1l> ppf: ah ok. that explains the chromeos dependency
[22:23] <viccuad> seems like gnome-shell, with a pop up and a prohibited symbol on the gnome-shell top bar, some kind of applet
[22:23] <nacc> viccuad: ok
[22:23] <ppf> k1l: so you're saying libcras is a chromeos component?
[22:24] <k1l> ppf: yes. that is one of the workarounds from google to make chrome work on arm
[22:24] <nacc> viccuad: alterantively, and probably saner, is to just purge that package
[22:25] <nacc> viccuad: linux-image-generic should no longer dpeend on it, iiuc
[22:25] <k1l> ppf: looks like you can only use chromium-browser
[22:28] <ppf> i really want to try chrome
[22:28] <ppf> chromium doesn't do sky :)
[22:29] <foul_owl> How do I use a certain java binary to call ant, and every sub process / script that that ant processes invokes java for also? Normally I would just use "update-alternatives" and set the systemwide java to the one I need, but in this case, there are other processes on the system that use a different java, and I can't interfere with those. Thanks!
[22:30] <nacc> foul_owl: maybe ask in a java channel?
[22:31] <nacc> foul_owl: but I think you can just set JAVA_HOME?
[22:32] <nacc> foul_owl: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2996583/java-ant-specify-which-java-installation-should-be-used-to-run
[22:33] <foul_owl> Specifically this is more of a linux question though
[22:33] <foul_owl> How do I use binary "foo" for process "bar"
[22:33] <foul_owl> and all subprocesses called by "bar"
[22:33] <foul_owl> Maybe more of a shell question
[22:35] <nacc> foul_owl: then you want a shell channel :)
[22:35] <nacc> foul_owl: but alias bar=foo
[22:35] <nacc> foul_owl: `man bash`
[22:36] <nacc> foul_owl: but the way to specify to ant you want to use a specific java is very ant-specific, you don't want to just change the java command invoked, normally
[22:52] <viccuad> nacc: thanks for the debugging :) (can't believe that my non-tech friend was able to dpkg --remove)
[22:56] <ppf> k1l: looks like i'm giving up again, another night without chrome on arm ;)
[22:58] <avatar__> hello
[23:00] <ppf> hello
[23:01] <avatar__> how use DAT streamer under linux? mt and tar? and will be possible to read files under windows?
[23:15] <foowalksintoabar> Hi!
[23:16] <foowalksintoabar> I'm having the same problem as this folk: https://www.behnke.io/fedora-17-on-an-aspire-v5-571-reboot-on-shutdown/ but on Xubuntu
[23:17] <foowalksintoabar> Does anybody know how can I make a similar script to activate my usb ports on shutdown?
[23:25] <laptop> 67
[23:29] <mikeymop> I'm getting so frustrated with wordpress
[23:29] <mikeymop> I chmod -R 655 ./wordpress
[23:29] <mikeymop> i cd in, permission denied?
[23:29] <mikeymop> i own it with my user
[23:30] <k1l> mikeymop: you need to execute a folder to be able to cd into it
[23:31] <mikeymop> would apache need 7 to write to that dir?
[23:31] <mikeymop> or is it fine with 5
[23:31] <max3> can someone help me sendmail - why am i not receiving this email http://pastebin.com/kskn7Jsa
[23:31] <max3> bob.alice@gmail.com is my obfuscated actual email address
[23:32] <k1l> mikeymop: folders need +x to be opened. so either 1, 5 or 7
[23:33] <k1l> mikeymop: and chmod -R is bad since it doesnt make it different for folders or files
[23:33] <max3> for example echo "Subject: test" | /usr/lib/sendmail -v bob.alice@gmail.com Example does work
[23:33] <mikeymop> k1l: i 777'd everything to diagnose and i get forbidden
[23:33] <mikeymop> when browsing to the page
[23:33] <mikeymop> i'll keep that in mind though thanks
[23:34] <k1l> mikeymop: this is the best way to ruin your setup
[23:34] <mikeymop> it started ruined anyway
[23:34] <k1l> mikeymop: the webbrowsers user is www-data, not your own user
[23:34] <mikeymop> i undestand that
[23:34] <mikeymop> ps aux | grep apache shows my user though
[23:35] <k1l> mikeymop: and giving the webbrowser 777 is a big security issue
[23:35] <mikeymop> its localhost
[23:35] <mikeymop> i understand the risk, i'm just tryign to get a dev env up for this and have been failing
[23:38] <tetramaster> how write data on tape using linux os?
[23:38] <cfhowlett> tetramaster, use the google to find such articles
[23:39] <tetramaster> cfhowlett, i know, that i can use mt and tar
[23:39] <tetramaster> but i also want, read data under windows os
[23:40] <tetramaster> so i want find universal solution
[23:43] <tetramaster> maybe is there any multi-os backup software with tape drives support?
[23:43] <OerHeks> Bacula backup perhaps
[23:51] <tetramaster> OerHeks, this is network backup software, for big IT systems
[23:51] <zenguy> hi is it possible for the syslog to overfill with this stuff http://pastebin.com/vVupPDYi
[23:52] <k1l> zenguy: yes, errors can spam the logfiles and grow to several GB size
[23:52] <zenguy> hmm interesting what should i do?
[23:53] <tetramaster> i don`t need sofftware like this, i want only backup files on tape
[23:53] <zenguy> find this JPEG and delete it or it's app?
[23:54] <Ben64> tetramaster: do you know what tar stands for?
[23:54] <samuel_> oi  tudo  bem
[23:55] <OerHeks> tetramaster, yes, bcula is advanced, but supports tapedrives http://blog.bacula.org/what-is-bacula/supported-tape-drives/
[23:55] <samuel_> não sou do brasil
[23:55] <OerHeks> and the other OS you named
[23:55] <samuel_> ou perdão sou do brasil
[23:55] <tetramaster> Ben64, yes, but data should be readable also under windows os
[23:55] <k1l> !br | samuel_
[23:55] <Ben64> tetramaster: how would that make it unreadable on windows
[23:57] <tetramaster> Ben64, mt program is unavailable under win
[23:57] <Ben64> i never said mt
[23:58] <tetramaster> Ben64, how read tar files from tape under win?
[23:58] <Ben64> ask ##windows about windows software
[23:58] <tetramaster> ;)
[23:58] <Ben64> not kidding
[23:59] <tetramaster> many backup software under win uses own standards
[23:59] <tetramaster> one program can`t read data saved by other software ...