[03:29] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> coffee & working day here
[03:30] <daftykins> hey hey!
[03:30] <daftykins> how's Saturday looking?
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> early shift todat
[03:30] <daftykins> ooh :>
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> tomorrow off, soo great
[03:31] <daftykins> \o/
[03:31] <daftykins> brb i need some water
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> kk
[03:37] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: oh man i've been having so much fun with that PBX server stuff
[03:38] <daftykins> i got a client for my android phone, a software client for my desktop PC and also plugged a real phone into a special box that converts it to LAN - so all 3 are extensions on my test server :D
[03:38] <daftykins> then this week i get the box so that my real phone line is put onto it and i receive calls and call out over it :D
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> cool
[03:39] <daftykins> that means i could even receive and make local landline calls over the internet from wherever in the world
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> wow
[03:41] <daftykins> :D :D
[03:42] <daftykins> *and* offer clients free calls to home
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> free, will be gold in their ears
[03:42] <daftykins> =]
[03:43] <daftykins> seems you can install this PBX on a Raspberry Pi too
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> nice
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: did you see my link about entroware?
[03:43] <daftykins> ah no sir
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> holdon
 daftykins: whats your opinion on the entroware machines? https://www.entroware.com/store/index.php?route=common/home
[03:46] <daftykins> oh my bad i remember you asking now, didn't mean to not reply - must've been distracted!
[03:47] <daftykins> wow that looks like a good source
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: ive emailed them, and they say they can provide me as a reseller
[03:48] <daftykins> \o/ they weren't fussed about your location too? given the countries listed on there
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: yep, they said they could deliver to belgium also, but asked me the details of company
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> not sure yet they will send one by one machines
[03:49] <daftykins> wow at those prices!
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> big/low?
[03:50] <daftykins> nice and low, i configured a kaby lake i5 with 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD for £616 excluding tax
[03:50] <daftykins> that's GBP
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> great!
[03:50] <daftykins> oop £645 now i put a 1080p screen on
[03:51] <daftykins> hmm 7 day dead pixel warranty is a bit funky XD
[03:51] <daftykins> 1 year is the highest warranty on the list too
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> warranty 1 year is the least of my concerns
[03:51] <daftykins> :>
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> the belgian keyboard i need and No OS, No hd
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> not sure they can do this for me
[03:52] <daftykins> i see no OS on the 'Aether' i'm configuring
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> yep thats already good
[03:52] <daftykins> pretty good prices on SSDs though, depending which they are
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> but all configs have a HD by default right
[03:52] <daftykins> in a way you could pick mechanical then put it in an enclosure for clients :D
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> also good idea, but if some customer have an enclosure already
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> would rather have the choice you see
[03:54] <daftykins> definitely
[03:54] <daftykins> every currency unit counts!
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> glad you like the prices
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> dont have many choice for barebone machines
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> and i also like they fact, they love ubuntu :p
[03:55] <daftykins> indeed! means their machines may even work with it too ;)
[03:55] <daftykins> be pretty good if you didn't have to reinstall once they arrive
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> well i also rather wanna instal fresh myself in dutch right
[03:56] <daftykins> wonder if they come up with an out of box experience (OOBE) wizard though that lets you pick language o0 never seen preinstalled 'buntu
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> oh that would be cool indeed
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> perhaps system76 got it also
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> so im excited to get a mail back...
[04:02] <Bashing-om> Beddie bye for me . Good nite :)
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> nite Bashing-om
[04:03] <daftykins> yep time for me to check out too
[04:03] <daftykins> cya lotus have a good weekend \o
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> byebye
[04:13] <aelsilmare> hi what's everyone's fav WM?
[04:14] <aelsilmare> I like Fluxbox and Afterstep but eager to hear all your opinions
[04:17] <daftykins> explorer
[04:17] <aelsilmare> lol Windows dude? I can't say I like it
[04:18] <daftykins> :)
[04:18] <aelsilmare> windows is ok if you like viruses
[04:19] <daftykins> very 90s comment, that
[04:19] <aelsilmare> 90s? d00d my windows machine just got a virus like a month ago!
[04:20] <daftykins> malware maybe, but not a true virus no
[04:20] <daftykins> the only sane approach is the person that accepts all OSs have problems - and an IT professional, which is the area i work in, deals with them all
[04:20] <aelsilmare> of course I know viruses dont really exist today but yeah I got a serious piece of malware and I had to download malwarebytes on my linux machine and install it from a USB key
[04:21] <daftykins> i think we both know how that could've come about
[04:22] <daftykins> anyway yeah my paid work is on Windows mostly - but i run services from Linux servers :)
[04:22] <daftykins> the one i really extend my middle finger to are the Macs though
[04:22] <aelsilmare> well the malware hit my hosts file...no internet access
[04:22] <daftykins> single file edit.
[04:23] <aelsilmare> but yeah malwarebytes kicks ass
[04:25] <daftykins> mmm usually use it on folks machines
[04:26] <aelsilmare> yea its great software...it's just windows yknow it's so insecure by default
[04:26] <aelsilmare> ubuntu never had anyh kind of malware for me
[04:27] <daftykins> most stuff attacks by accounts and browsers, so i'd say your comments are a bit too anecdotal and not platform agnostic
[04:28] <aelsilmare> platform agnostic??
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> alot of security holes on linux also
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> !usn
[04:30] <daftykins> ^ lotus speaks the truth
[04:30] <aelsilmare> buntu never had anthat fixes them right?
[04:30] <aelsilmare> i just apt-get upgrade
[04:31] <daftykins> listen, if you want to be taken seriously in life you have to drop the fanboy angle and see that everything gets problems
[04:31] <daftykins> ok really off \o
[04:31] <aelsilmare> of course...i know linux isnt the answer to everything
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> the owner's mind does everything to a machine
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> on whatever Os
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> always need to be carefull
[04:33] <aelsilmare> very int insight lotus
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> !info lynis | aelsilmare
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> check this nice tool
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> bbl working, have a nice one guys
[07:21] <ducasse> morning all
[12:31] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:34] <ducasse> BluesKaj: good morning!
[12:36] <BluesKaj> hey ducasse, what's up today ?
[12:39] <ducasse> not much, really. nothing on the schedule today, so i'm doing Important Stuff like fiddling with desktop and terminal colors :)
[12:51] <BluesKaj> this is interesting https://www.linux.com/learn/intro-to-linux/2017/3/try-raspberry-pixel-platform-your-desktop
[12:53] <BluesKaj> there's pixelos for the desktop/laptop too and apparently it's very fast on intel cpus, but it's still 32 bit
[12:55] <BluesKaj> it's still in the live media stage, there's no insraller
[12:56] <ducasse> cool, good that there's still activity on 'light' desktops.
[12:57] <BluesKaj> yeah, for sure
[13:00] <ducasse> given how many ask for them in #ubuntu, there is clearly a market.
[13:06] <BluesKaj> lots of users trying to resurrect older machines that are still working, but with lower specs
[13:21] <ducasse> yep, and i understand why. they can still be used for a lot of stuff, even if you might not be able to decode (u)hd video etc.
[13:34] <BluesKaj> yeah , the seniors center here are using a couple old HPs with celeron cpus on lubuntu on them, mostly for surfing the net and email etc
[13:34] <BluesKaj> ok , bbl
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
[13:48] <BluesKaj> Hi lotuspsychje
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[13:55] <ducasse> hi lotus!
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[13:56] <ducasse> no work today?
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> yeah im done early
[13:57] <ducasse> ah, goodie. plans for the evening?
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> movie marathon with gf :p
[13:57] <ducasse> 'movie', suuuure.
[13:57] <ducasse> ;)fontforge-extras
[13:58] <ducasse> soeey about paste there :)
[13:58] <ducasse> *sorry
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:58] <ducasse> argh, this keyboard is so crap :(
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> wich one is it
[13:59] <ducasse> a hp laptop, i'm not at my desk atm
[13:59] <ducasse> _old_ hp laptop :)
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> kk
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: we use our mede8er mediaplayer to watch some :p
[14:01] <ducasse> right, you linked that once. i still use the rpi2, works for me. not ideal, but Good Enough.
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> plays every codec in the book :p
[14:02] <ducasse> h.265 as well?
[14:03] <lotuspsychje> yep
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> hey baizon
[14:08] <baizon> hi hi lotuspsychje
[14:29] <lotuspsychje> bbl movie :p
[18:24] <ducasse> evening/morning Bashing-om
[18:25] <OerHeks> happy weekend \0/
[18:25] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Thankee .. Been "settled" on main ?
[18:26] <ducasse> Bashing-om: been quiet today, from what i've seen
[18:27] <daftykins> \o
[18:27] <ducasse> OerHeks: how is drabber? :)
[18:27] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Here lately the week-ends have been slow . 'buntu is stable and user friendly ! Are we - volunteers - phasing out too ?
[18:27] <daftykins> drabber \o/
[18:28] <ducasse> evening, daftykins
[18:29] <daftykins> finishing up some CD ripping here
[18:30] <ducasse> what does "I already got swap size greater than RAM twice and my swap not if btfu" mean?
[18:30] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Has been PBX'n .. a whole new world .
[18:31] <daftykins> i think the last 3 'words' ruin it, but is it someone saying they're filling swap o0
[18:31] <daftykins> yep! got myself an android app (Voiperbeta), desktop app (X-Lite) and also an old analog phone connecting to a VM of 'FreePBX' :D
[18:31] <daftykins> just awaiting my voice gateway to show up so i can configure my real landline to join the party
[18:31] <Bashing-om> ducasse: got me with the " btfu" too .
[18:32] <daftykins> but the whole voicemail sending me emails is amazing
[18:32] <ducasse> everything from 'and' on was on a separate line, if that helps :)
[18:32] <daftykins> (.wav attachments)
[18:32] <daftykins> haha oh it's one of THOSE
[18:32] <ducasse> Bashing-om: 'back the f up', the internet says
[18:33] <daftykins> sounds like we need to see a 'free -m'
[18:33] <daftykins> be quite funny if the swap was there but off...
[18:33] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Then he has a "failure to communicate" properly :)
[18:33] <ducasse> freakyy: he's trying to hibernate
[18:33] <ducasse> daftykins: ^^
[18:34] <daftykins> aaaah so not enough space left to enter
[18:34] <ducasse> bad tab there
[18:34] <daftykins> yep still could do with a 'free -m' :)
[18:35] <ducasse> he's gone now anyway. that's another thing, people don't understand answers can take a few minutes :)
[18:36] <daftykins> not quick enough ducasse! FASTER!
[18:36] <daftykins> :>
[18:37] <ducasse> i'll take as much time as i damn well please, thank you. ;)
[18:38] <OerHeks> wait a minute ...
[18:39] <Bashing-om> We who have done so much, for so long - with so little - are now qualified to to anything with nothing .
[18:39] <OerHeks> proceed
[18:39] <ducasse> OerHeks: :)
[18:42] <ducasse> anyone seen this? https://www.mirbsd.org/permalinks/wlog-10_e20170301-tg.htm
[18:42] <ducasse> on new github t&c
[18:45] <daftykins> ugh i'm sorting tagging in huge 60+ track compilation albums to try and undo the mess a client had created by iTunes usage
[18:46] <daftykins> that program needs to be destroyed...
[18:47] <ducasse> daftykins: can't beets or something do this?
[18:48] <daftykins> it's one of those situations where the artist of each individual track has been set as the artist, but as they are compilations they need to be moved into the title so that the artist can be 'Various Artists'
[18:48] <daftykins> big mess
[18:51] <ducasse> daftykins: not to be cruel, but that doesn't sound like the ideal saturday night :-/
[18:51] <Bashing-om> ducasse: Nope ! Was not aware there was a Github licenseing controversy . Ouch . change is in the forecast .
[18:51] <daftykins> :D
[18:51] <daftykins> just want to get it finished so i can take them up when i go for a shower in a moment (since mine is still broken)
[18:52] <ducasse> hehe - mark, copy, cut, paste, edit, repeat ;)
[18:53] <daftykins> yep ;_;
[18:56] <daftykins> 493 files omg
[18:56] <daftykins> parents, talk to your children about tagging... oh wait they all use streaming services... :)
[18:58] <ducasse> 'ls -1R FLAC/ | wc -l' = 12328
[18:58] <daftykins> oh they're not even FLAC, that's what's cringe too
[18:58] <daftykins> this is trying to organise the guy's wifes nasty iTunes organised collection in order to tear it away from Apple fail :)
[18:59] <daftykins> not sure she has the original CDs to just do it over which'd be quicker XD
[18:59] <ducasse> i'm betting the music is crap, too
[18:59] <ducasse> "various artists" sort of suggest that
[19:00] <daftykins> just did a couple of Christmas compilations... D:
[19:00] <ducasse> oh god.
[19:04] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/c9lrhmg0unr3ekd/tagging.PNG?dl=0
[19:04] <daftykins> the ones without 'Various Artists' are still yet to be done
[19:05] <ducasse> "80s groove masters"
[19:05] <ducasse> rotfl
[19:07] <ducasse> daftykins: btw - good site for transferring files - https://transfer.sh/
[19:08] <daftykins> hrmm
[19:08] <daftykins> aww ducasse you want me to zip half of them and let you help? ;)
[19:09] <ducasse> suuure :)
[19:10] <ducasse> done any soldering lately?
[19:10] <Bashing-om> A friend in deed ^ :P
[19:10] <daftykins> :D
[19:10] <daftykins> sadly no :( no uses for soldering of late, the PBX plans have taken over
[19:27] <daftykins> it's ok guys, only 232 files left
[19:27] <daftykins> eww someone just threw up outside
[19:28] <ducasse> yuck
[19:31] <Bashing-om> An early start ^^ on his Saturday night ? ( I do not miss them days !)
[19:31] <daftykins> indeed :S
[19:49] <daftykins> aaaaah done at last
[19:49]  * alkisg wonders if it would be possible to ask the sysadmins to implement `nc paste.ubuntu.com 9999` instead of instructing people to run `nc termbin.com 9999`....
[19:49] <daftykins> alkisg: why?
[19:50] <alkisg> Well, to be more #ubuntu specific :)
[19:50] <daftykins> and when you say implement... do you mean 'use' when giving advice, or...? because the package 'pastebinit' exists
[19:50] <daftykins> it doesn't matter what is used to get the job done
[19:50] <alkisg> Well, suppose that someone has a live cd or a broken apt
[19:50] <alkisg> pastebinit isn't preinstalled
[19:50] <daftykins> yeah, in which case we'll use whatever service comes to mind
[19:50] <alkisg> So I `nc` is handy in many cases
[19:50] <daftykins> yep preaching to the choir there
[19:50] <ducasse> alkisg: it is installed on 16.04?
[19:51] <alkisg> And, I just thought it would be better to have support for it in paste.ubuntu.com too, it shouldn't be hard...
[19:51] <daftykins> "support" ?
[19:51] <alkisg> ducasse: I don't have it in my ubuntu-mate 16.04
[19:51] <alkisg> I don't know about the unity cd
[19:51] <daftykins> so you came in to tell people that help others to use a given service over another because you think the name matches up nicer?
[19:52] <daftykins> there's not anything else to it? :)
[19:52] <alkisg> daftykins: support => in the web server at paste.ubuntu.com, there should be something implemented to listed on the 9999 port
[19:52] <alkisg> For nc posts, not http POSTs
[19:52] <daftykins> sorry can't follow what you just said
[19:53] <alkisg> I wondered if it would be a good idea to implement a service in paste.ubuntu.com, that is similar to termbin.com
[19:53] <daftykins> aaaah so what you really mean is that you don't *know* if paste.ubuntu.com supports netcat piping?
[19:53] <alkisg> That is, receive pastes though netcat instead of HTTP POSTs
[19:54] <alkisg> I believe it doesn't
[19:54] <alkisg> And it wouldn't be hard to implement
[19:54] <daftykins> right, now we arrive at your real meaning :)
[19:54] <alkisg> And I'm asking if others find it a good idea
[19:54] <alkisg> If yes, then we could see who maintains this etc
[19:54] <daftykins> don't see any benefit or disadvantage, you just have to track down who runs it
[19:55] <alkisg> If you don't see any benefits, there's no reason to track down who runs it...
[19:55] <alkisg> That's why I came to ask, if it's not a good idea no reason to try and implement it
[19:56] <daftykins> oh no i'm not going to do it :)
[19:56] <daftykins> this 'ticket' is your baby :D
[19:56] <alkisg> I'm not requesting that you do it
[19:56] <daftykins> yeah i know
[19:56] <alkisg> I was just asking if people thought it would be a good idea
[19:56] <daftykins> wouldn't hurt, i used to forget termbin from time to time
[19:56] <daftykins> it also went down once for a few weeks
[21:17] <Bashing-om> Away for a spell - Be back somewhat later ;)
[23:56] <Bashing-om> I am back to where I can pay attention :)
[23:56] <daftykins> \o/
[23:56] <daftykins> Louis is also back - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGNOGHXhpbQ
[23:56] <daftykins> yay repair!
[23:57] <Bashing-om> daftykins: No audio on this work station :) - ( and no intention of change )
[23:58] <daftykins> ooh, how come?
[23:59] <Bashing-om> I can not hear anyway .. and most things I hear I do not want to hear anyway :) just a distraction .