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squish102superfly: i woork for a retailer called dollar tree00:49
superflysquish102: oh, yep, I've heard of them00:49
squish102they quite big as a company but don't spend so much on IT00:50
squish102only have 500-600 ppl in IT00:50
squish102probably 1000 if you count contractors00:51
inetprogood morning everyone 07:12
Kiloso/08:29
Kilosaw where is maaz09:24
paddatrapperKilos: Maaz needs his weekend too it seems09:26
Kiloshehe09:27
Kilosaw cant get into my site09:29
Kilosmaaz keeps the correct link09:30
Kilossigh09:30
theblazehenmorning all09:38
Kiloshi theblazehen 09:38
* theblazehen is buying another 2 SSDs :)09:38
theblazehenThat I probably shouldn't09:39
Kilossjoe09:41
Kilosdont waste09:41
Kilosonly get what you need09:41
theblazehenCouldn't get just one.. raid 1 isn't faster than raid 0 in speed, and I need 3 for raid 509:42
theblazehenDon't trust raid 0 at all09:42
Kiloswhy all ssd09:42
Kilosspeed?09:42
theblazehenAnd getting new motherboard and pci-e to sata09:43
theblazehenYeah, not _all_ ssd :)09:43
Kilosthey expensive for their size09:43
theblazehenGonna have the 3 SSDs be cache for my 12 HDDs09:43
Kilosaha09:43
theblazehenAnd HDDs in RAID 1009:43
theblazehenAnd need new motherboard for more sata ports + a faster pci-e link for my GPU, only got a 1x link at the moment, horribly slow, as GPU wants 16x09:44
Kiloseish09:47
theblazehenA bit dirty but, http://imgur.com/a/RbrMi current storage box09:48
theblazehenIt's a mess lol09:48
chesedomorning all09:52
inetprotheblazehen: and you do ceph on top of raid 5 as well? 09:52
* chesedo thought raid1 and raid0 where not the same any way...09:52
Kiloshi chesedo inetpro 09:52
theblazeheninetpro nah, just gonna do my current bcache + lvm09:52
theblazehenchesedo they're not09:52
theblazehenI wouldn't risk adding a 2nd drive in raid 0, and 2nd drive in raid 1 won't help performance, so I need to get 2 extra drives to make it 3 for raid 509:53
* chesedo means that 0 is for extending and 1 for mirroring09:55
theblazehenyeah09:56
theblazehenAnd I'm saying 1 extra drive is useless to me09:56
theblazehenWish I could upgrade the ram though... Can only fit 32 GB on the board, to be shared between my pc, storage server (1.5 GB or so), and brothers gaming pc...09:57
theblazehenMy pc only has 19 GB at the moment...09:58
* theblazehen forgot to migrate my quassel core to my server... Lets see if live migration works10:01
theblazehenLaptop it's currently running on is a bit low on specs...10:02
theblazehenRunning my router vm, vpn vm, apt-cacher-ng + others (planned) container,  samba server, backup server, and quassel core on 4 GiB RAM10:03
theblazehenfsck. Criu didn't work. Gonna need to shut down to transfer the container10:20
chesedoebusuku: which kind of web application is that?13:12
ebusukuHi chesedo15:07
ebusukudjango application15:07
tumbleweedwin 3617:11
LangjanGood evening all17:26
Kiloshi Langjan 17:34
Kilosevening everyone else17:34
LangjanHi kil17:35
LangjanKilos, 17:35
Kiloshaha you forgot how tab works17:35
Langjanpreoccupied, lmga17:36
Langjanyou ok?17:36
Kiloshehe17:36
Kilosyessir ty im fine17:36
Kilosjust tired17:36
Kilosdays seem to have got longer17:36
Langjangood, do you feel the vit C helped you?17:36
Kilosno17:36
Kilosi never feel any diffs with whatever17:37
Langjanso what did?17:37
Kiloslike peeps say coffee keeps you awake17:37
Langjannot me17:37
Kilosi drink a beer mug of coffee then sleep17:37
Kilosand pain killers that make others lame just touch sides with me17:38
LangjanHardegat jongman...17:38
Kilosdifferent system i spose17:38
Kiloslook at tara and my dna results, try find a higher count17:39
Kilosim an alien i think17:39
LangjanFrom which planet?17:40
Kilosi have no idea17:40
Kilosanyway i go the 24th for tests at steve biko17:40
Kilosthey said no food, only water. and only meat and veggiers day before17:40
Kilosand i go monday for meds17:41
LangjanSjoe, so you must wait a long time, are they that busy?A17:41
Kilospoor ian losing lots of working time17:41
Kiloswell the heart surger department has a 2 to three year waiting list17:42
Kilosthey only squeeze very bad cases in between17:42
LangjanWell good luck, I sincerely hope they will sort your problem out17:51
* inetpro too17:52
inetprogood evening Langjan17:52
Langjanhello inetpro how are you keeping?17:52
inetprooh and hi everyone else and superfly as well17:52
chesedoebusuku: i've heard good things about dreamhost... and they support python17:53
inetprogood and you oom Langjan17:53
inetproebusuku: welcome back17:53
LangjanAlso well thks just battling a bit17:53
superflyebusuku: are you looking for a local (ZA) hoster, or international hosting?17:54
inetproLangjan: what did you break?17:54
* superfly was editing Apache configs on his server using vim via SSH on his phone last night. yet another reason to prefer vim17:56
chesedoebusuku: superfly is our python expert so he will be most reliable17:56
chesedowow superfly17:57
Langjaninetpro, I discovered that my cpu is 64 bit so I installed 16.04 64 bit 17:57
Langjanwas given the impression that timeshift will restore apps but did not work out 17:58
inetprosuperfly: I've done that before but with a small screen and soft keyboard can be quite challenging 17:58
superflyinetpro: with vim (and using vim like you're meant to) it was actually really easy. I think also the fact that I have a decent internet connection helps a lot - the lag is minimal17:59
inetproLangjan: who gave that impression?18:00
LangjanThe guy who runs the timeshift website18:00
Langjananyway I have reinstalled most of the stuff but have a few packages that are messing me around 18:01
* inetpro gies to read about timeshift18:01
inetproTimeShift is a 2007 first-person shooter?18:01
inetpros/gies/goes/18:02
superflyhttps://launchpad.net/timeshift18:02
* inetpro found http://www.teejeetech.in/p/timeshift.html18:03
LangjanTony George18:03
LangjanCorrect18:03
superflyLangjan: you can't just run 32-bit apps on a 64-bit operating system. you have to run the 64-bit versions18:04
superflyalso, from what I can see, it's up to how you set up TimeShift18:04
LangjanYes I have installed some 64 bit apps 18:06
superflyLangjan: so if TimeShift restored the 32-bit apps, they will not work.18:06
LangjanWell I did not restore anything via Timeshift in the end18:07
Langjanbut did copy my home folder over and maybe created some conflicts? 18:08
Langjane.g. synaptic intalls but does not open18:08
Langjaninstalls18:08
Kilosai!18:08
Kilostry run it from cli18:08
Kilossudo synaptic18:09
LangjanInvalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyFailed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket: No such file or directory18:09
LangjanUnable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused18:09
Langjan(synaptic:14412): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :018:09
Kilossudo apt install synaptic18:10
Langjansomething happening now18:11
Kilosinstalling?18:11
LangjanHad to do apt-get -f install 18:12
Kilosok18:12
Langjandont know what it did but it ran18:12
Kilosdependencies not installed or orther packages not fully installed i think18:13
Langjanok now it says synaptic is already latest version 18:13
Kilosok sudo synaptic18:14
LangjanInvalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyFailed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket: No such file or directory18:14
LangjanUnable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused18:14
Langjan(synaptic:15214): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :018:14
Kilosai!18:14
Kilossudo apt install aptitude18:15
LangjanAnd does not open via launcher either18:15
Kilosis your screen plugged in18:15
Langjanok18:15
Kiloshee hee18:15
Langjanjy spot met siekte seuntjie18:15
Kilosok so something missing18:15
Kilossudo apt update18:15
Langjanwaiting for aptitude to install18:16
Kilosstill18:16
Kilosis that an 18bit machine18:16
LangjanE: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/hplip-isv/ppa/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file.18:16
Kiloshmm...18:17
Kilossudo apt update18:17
LangjanThat was the output from update18:18
Kilosagain18:18
Langjanok18:18
Kilosmabe change repos to neology18:18
Kilosif it fails again18:19
Langjansame result, am on neulogy18:19
Kilossudo dpkg --configure -a18:19
LangjanN: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.18:19
LangjanN: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.18:19
Langjanok18:19
Langjanand then? 18:20
Kilosdid it do aything18:20
Kilosdo the -f command again18:21
Langjanjust went to the next prompt18:21
Kilossudo apt-get -f install i think it was18:21
LangjanNothing to do there, nil return18:22
Kilosok so synatic not starting the display or something18:22
Kilosthats work for brainy peeps18:23
Kilosinetpro fix it18:23
Kilostry18:23
Kilossudo apt install ubuntu-desktop18:23
Langjanok18:23
LangjanNothing to do there either18:24
Kilosare you sure there is ram in that machine?18:24
Langjan8 Gb18:24
Kilosor ewe18:24
Langjanewe?18:24
Kilosyou sure thew ram not dead18:24
Kilosaybe on someones braai 18:25
Kilosai! ek terg toppie18:25
Langjanwell its running so fast maybe it ran away to the ewes18:25
Kiloslol18:25
Kilosok im sure something not installed properly18:26
Kilosgo to software centre18:26
Kilostype in synaptic18:26
Kilostell it install18:26
Kiloslets see what that says18:27
magespawngood evening18:28
LangjanIt says install as if its not installed, then when I say install it says installed almost immediately18:28
Langjanhi magespawn 18:28
magespawnhi Langjan 18:28
LangjanTheres an unknown package "waiting to install"18:29
Kilosaha18:29
Langjanshows up in the launcher18:29
Kiloshow does one find out what that might be18:29
nasanzerogood evening guys18:29
Kiloshi nasanzero 18:29
Langjanhi nasanzero 18:29
Kiloswrong nick18:30
nasanzerohi Kilos 18:30
nasanzerohi Langjan 18:30
superflyLangjan: ignore those errors, that's typical GTK18:30
nasanzerohi superfly 18:30
superfly[11:09:53] <Langjan> Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyFailed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket: No such file or directory18:30
superfly[11:09:53] <Langjan> Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused18:30
superfly[11:09:53] <Langjan> (synaptic:14412): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :018:30
superflyhi nasanzero18:30
Kilossuperfly he cant open things from launcher even18:31
KilosLangjan you using ubuntu?18:32
nasanzerotrying out weechat over irssi tonight 18:32
LangjanSynaptic shows in launcher but click and it goes away after a while18:32
KilosLangjan 18:32
Langjanyes 16.0418:32
Kiloshmm...18:32
Kilostry sudo synaptic again18:33
Langjanok18:33
superflyKilos: don't sudo synaptic -- doesn't synaptic ask for password?18:33
Kilosyes if it opens it asks superfly 18:34
nasanzerolooks like your gnome/mir/unity install is damaged Langjan 18:34
Kiloshe cant get it to open18:34
superflyKilos: so you're never going to figure out what the problem is if you use sudo18:34
superflyjust run "synaptic" and then see what the output is18:34
Kilosif we can get it to open he can look for broken packages with it18:35
superflynasanzero: I wasn't aware that Ubuntu was using Mir yet18:35
superflyKilos: you don't need synaptic for that18:35
superflyjust "sudo apt -f install"18:35
Kilostried that18:35
Kilosmade no diffs18:35
LangjanWow superfly that opened synaptic immediately18:35
Kilosok Langjan reload synaptic18:36
Kilosthen mark all updates18:36
nasanzerosuperfly: i not sure what they call it - i dont use ubuntu - sorry 18:37
Kilosi mean in synaptic hit the reload button18:37
Kilosdoes same as apt update18:37
superflynasanzero: I meant, I thought they were still using Xorg18:37
LangjanKilos, synaptic does not allow "apply"18:38
Kilosthen there may be n one18:39
superflyLangjan: forget synaptic, use the terminal. Type: sudo apt update18:39
superflyLangjan: then: sudo apt upgrade18:39
nasanzerosuperfly: you are correct - xorg as mir is not mainstream yet 18:39
Kilosty superfly 18:39
superflyYou too, Kilos18:39
Kilosno man ty for helping him18:39
Langjanok running update18:40
Kilosi had that prob maybe 3 releases ago18:40
LangjanE: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/hplip-isv/ppa/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file.18:40
LangjanN: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.18:40
LangjanN: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.18:40
superflyLangjan: that's a PPA that doesn't support your version of Ubuntu.18:40
Kilosand only way i got it fixed was to right click reinstall everything showing installed in synaptic18:40
LangjanUpgrade does not add anything18:41
LangjanThis is all I can do in Synaptic via terminal: You will not be able to apply any changes, but you can still export the marked changes or create a download script for them.18:42
nasanzeroLangjan: did you install something recently ?18:46
Langjannasanzero, I did a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04 64 bit 18:47
Langjanthen installed some apps via software centre and skype etc18:47
Langjanand added my backed up home folder 18:47
nasanzeroyou have a ppa in you repository list 18:48
Langjannot sure what you mean? 18:49
Langjanyes18:49
nasanzero'http://ppa.launchpad.net/hplip-isv/ppa/ubuntu xenial  -> this is not a standard repository18:49
nasanzeroyou can do a ppa purge and revert every back to standard 18:50
LangjanOk that could help18:51
nasanzerosudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:PPA_Name/ppa18:52
LangjanMust I put the one 's name in there that you queried? 18:52
nasanzerojust a moment Langjan - i am just checking 18:53
LangjanI have open terminal with this: Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged.18:54
Kilosoi18:55
Kilossnaakse goed18:55
Langjanja18:55
nasanzerohave you tired rebooting ? 18:55
LangjanNo, ok shal I do that ? 18:56
nasanzerowait 18:56
Langjanok18:56
nasanzerothat ppa you added was last updated in 2011 !18:56
LangjanI tried to install hplip and it must have added the ppa in the process18:57
nasanzerosudo add-apt-repository -- remove ppa:hplip-isv/ppa18:58
Langjanwas unsuccessful18:58
Langjanok18:58
LangjanError: need a single repository as argument18:58
pavlushkanight Langjan :)18:58
Langjangnight pavlushka 18:59
Langjansleep well18:59
nasanzerosudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:hplip-isv/ppa18:59
nasanzerooops i put an extra space in there 18:59
Langjanok thks its done18:59
nasanzerosudo apt update 19:00
nasanzerosudo apt install -f19:00
Langjanrunning19:00
Langjanall done19:01
Langjanlooks fine19:01
nasanzeroalso try -> dmesg | grep error 19:02
LangjanQuite a long output, where can I post it?19:03
nasanzerolots of errors ? 19:05
LangjanYes quite a few, about 15 lines19:05
Langjan10 errors19:06
nasanzerook lets try running a new session -> ctrl+alt+2 to start a new session , enter your username and password then run startx 19:07
nasanzeropressinh ctrl+alt+7 should bring you back to this screen o just try ctrl+alt+other number till you get back here 19:07
* nasanzero waits with crossed fingers19:11
LangjanHi nasanzero Im back and synaptic has opened, is working many thanks 19:12
nasanzeromy pleasure Langjan 19:13
LangjanMuch appreciated19:13
Langjan and thks a lot again Kilos 19:13
nasanzeroweechat > irssi so far 19:15
LangjanThks guys I'm going to love and leave you, sleep well19:21
nasanzeronight night Langjan19:25
magespawngood night all19:48
nsnzeronight magespawn 19:49

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