[00:49] <squish102> superfly: i woork for a retailer called dollar tree
[00:49] <superfly> squish102: oh, yep, I've heard of them
[00:50] <squish102> they quite big as a company but don't spend so much on IT
[00:50] <squish102> only have 500-600 ppl in IT
[00:51] <squish102> probably 1000 if you count contractors
[07:12] <inetpro> good morning everyone 
[08:29] <Kilos> o/
[09:24] <Kilos> aw where is maaz
[09:26] <paddatrapper> Kilos: Maaz needs his weekend too it seems
[09:27] <Kilos> hehe
[09:29] <Kilos> aw cant get into my site
[09:30] <Kilos> maaz keeps the correct link
[09:30] <Kilos> sigh
[09:38] <theblazehen> morning all
[09:38] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[09:38]  * theblazehen is buying another 2 SSDs :)
[09:39] <theblazehen> That I probably shouldn't
[09:41] <Kilos> sjoe
[09:41] <Kilos> dont waste
[09:41] <Kilos> only get what you need
[09:42] <theblazehen> Couldn't get just one.. raid 1 isn't faster than raid 0 in speed, and I need 3 for raid 5
[09:42] <theblazehen> Don't trust raid 0 at all
[09:42] <Kilos> why all ssd
[09:42] <Kilos> speed?
[09:43] <theblazehen> And getting new motherboard and pci-e to sata
[09:43] <theblazehen> Yeah, not _all_ ssd :)
[09:43] <Kilos> they expensive for their size
[09:43] <theblazehen> Gonna have the 3 SSDs be cache for my 12 HDDs
[09:43] <Kilos> aha
[09:43] <theblazehen> And HDDs in RAID 10
[09:44] <theblazehen> And need new motherboard for more sata ports + a faster pci-e link for my GPU, only got a 1x link at the moment, horribly slow, as GPU wants 16x
[09:47] <Kilos> eish
[09:48] <theblazehen> A bit dirty but, http://imgur.com/a/RbrMi current storage box
[09:48] <theblazehen> It's a mess lol
[09:52] <chesedo> morning all
[09:52] <inetpro> theblazehen: and you do ceph on top of raid 5 as well? 
[09:52]  * chesedo thought raid1 and raid0 where not the same any way...
[09:52] <Kilos> hi chesedo inetpro 
[09:52] <theblazehen> inetpro nah, just gonna do my current bcache + lvm
[09:52] <theblazehen> chesedo they're not
[09:53] <theblazehen> I wouldn't risk adding a 2nd drive in raid 0, and 2nd drive in raid 1 won't help performance, so I need to get 2 extra drives to make it 3 for raid 5
[09:55]  * chesedo means that 0 is for extending and 1 for mirroring
[09:56] <theblazehen> yeah
[09:56] <theblazehen> And I'm saying 1 extra drive is useless to me
[09:57] <theblazehen> Wish I could upgrade the ram though... Can only fit 32 GB on the board, to be shared between my pc, storage server (1.5 GB or so), and brothers gaming pc...
[09:58] <theblazehen> My pc only has 19 GB at the moment...
[10:01]  * theblazehen forgot to migrate my quassel core to my server... Lets see if live migration works
[10:02] <theblazehen> Laptop it's currently running on is a bit low on specs...
[10:03] <theblazehen> Running my router vm, vpn vm, apt-cacher-ng + others (planned) container,  samba server, backup server, and quassel core on 4 GiB RAM
[10:20] <theblazehen> fsck. Criu didn't work. Gonna need to shut down to transfer the container
[13:12] <chesedo> ebusuku: which kind of web application is that?
[15:07] <ebusuku> Hi chesedo
[15:07] <ebusuku> django application
[17:11] <tumbleweed> win 36
[17:26] <Langjan> Good evening all
[17:34] <Kilos> hi Langjan 
[17:34] <Kilos> evening everyone else
[17:35] <Langjan> Hi kil
[17:35] <Langjan> Kilos, 
[17:35] <Kilos> haha you forgot how tab works
[17:36] <Langjan> preoccupied, lmga
[17:36] <Langjan> you ok?
[17:36] <Kilos> hehe
[17:36] <Kilos> yessir ty im fine
[17:36] <Kilos> just tired
[17:36] <Kilos> days seem to have got longer
[17:36] <Langjan> good, do you feel the vit C helped you?
[17:36] <Kilos> no
[17:37] <Kilos> i never feel any diffs with whatever
[17:37] <Langjan> so what did?
[17:37] <Kilos> like peeps say coffee keeps you awake
[17:37] <Langjan> not me
[17:37] <Kilos> i drink a beer mug of coffee then sleep
[17:38] <Kilos> and pain killers that make others lame just touch sides with me
[17:38] <Langjan> Hardegat jongman...
[17:38] <Kilos> different system i spose
[17:39] <Kilos> look at tara and my dna results, try find a higher count
[17:39] <Kilos> im an alien i think
[17:40] <Langjan> From which planet?
[17:40] <Kilos> i have no idea
[17:40] <Kilos> anyway i go the 24th for tests at steve biko
[17:40] <Kilos> they said no food, only water. and only meat and veggiers day before
[17:41] <Kilos> and i go monday for meds
[17:41] <Langjan> Sjoe, so you must wait a long time, are they that busy?A
[17:41] <Kilos> poor ian losing lots of working time
[17:42] <Kilos> well the heart surger department has a 2 to three year waiting list
[17:42] <Kilos> they only squeeze very bad cases in between
[17:51] <Langjan> Well good luck, I sincerely hope they will sort your problem out
[17:52]  * inetpro too
[17:52] <inetpro> good evening Langjan
[17:52] <Langjan> hello inetpro how are you keeping?
[17:52] <inetpro> oh and hi everyone else and superfly as well
[17:53] <chesedo> ebusuku: i've heard good things about dreamhost... and they support python
[17:53] <inetpro> good and you oom Langjan
[17:53] <inetpro> ebusuku: welcome back
[17:53] <Langjan> Also well thks just battling a bit
[17:54] <superfly> ebusuku: are you looking for a local (ZA) hoster, or international hosting?
[17:54] <inetpro> Langjan: what did you break?
[17:56]  * superfly was editing Apache configs on his server using vim via SSH on his phone last night. yet another reason to prefer vim
[17:56] <chesedo> ebusuku: superfly is our python expert so he will be most reliable
[17:57] <chesedo> wow superfly
[17:57] <Langjan> inetpro, I discovered that my cpu is 64 bit so I installed 16.04 64 bit 
[17:58] <Langjan> was given the impression that timeshift will restore apps but did not work out 
[17:58] <inetpro> superfly: I've done that before but with a small screen and soft keyboard can be quite challenging 
[17:59] <superfly> inetpro: with vim (and using vim like you're meant to) it was actually really easy. I think also the fact that I have a decent internet connection helps a lot - the lag is minimal
[18:00] <inetpro> Langjan: who gave that impression?
[18:00] <Langjan> The guy who runs the timeshift website
[18:01] <Langjan> anyway I have reinstalled most of the stuff but have a few packages that are messing me around 
[18:01]  * inetpro gies to read about timeshift
[18:01] <inetpro> TimeShift is a 2007 first-person shooter?
[18:02] <inetpro> s/gies/goes/
[18:02] <superfly> https://launchpad.net/timeshift
[18:03]  * inetpro found http://www.teejeetech.in/p/timeshift.html
[18:03] <Langjan> Tony George
[18:03] <Langjan> Correct
[18:04] <superfly> Langjan: you can't just run 32-bit apps on a 64-bit operating system. you have to run the 64-bit versions
[18:04] <superfly> also, from what I can see, it's up to how you set up TimeShift
[18:06] <Langjan> Yes I have installed some 64 bit apps 
[18:06] <superfly> Langjan: so if TimeShift restored the 32-bit apps, they will not work.
[18:07] <Langjan> Well I did not restore anything via Timeshift in the end
[18:08] <Langjan> but did copy my home folder over and maybe created some conflicts? 
[18:08] <Langjan> e.g. synaptic intalls but does not open
[18:08] <Langjan> installs
[18:08] <Kilos> ai!
[18:08] <Kilos> try run it from cli
[18:09] <Kilos> sudo synaptic
[18:09] <Langjan> Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyFailed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket: No such file or directory
[18:09] <Langjan> Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused
[18:09] <Langjan> (synaptic:14412): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[18:10] <Kilos> sudo apt install synaptic
[18:11] <Langjan> something happening now
[18:11] <Kilos> installing?
[18:12] <Langjan> Had to do apt-get -f install 
[18:12] <Kilos> ok
[18:12] <Langjan> dont know what it did but it ran
[18:13] <Kilos> dependencies not installed or orther packages not fully installed i think
[18:13] <Langjan> ok now it says synaptic is already latest version 
[18:14] <Kilos> ok sudo synaptic
[18:14] <Langjan> Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyFailed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket: No such file or directory
[18:14] <Langjan> Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused
[18:14] <Langjan> (synaptic:15214): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[18:14] <Kilos> ai!
[18:15] <Kilos> sudo apt install aptitude
[18:15] <Langjan> And does not open via launcher either
[18:15] <Kilos> is your screen plugged in
[18:15] <Langjan> ok
[18:15] <Kilos> hee hee
[18:15] <Langjan> jy spot met siekte seuntjie
[18:15] <Kilos> ok so something missing
[18:15] <Kilos> sudo apt update
[18:16] <Langjan> waiting for aptitude to install
[18:16] <Kilos> still
[18:16] <Kilos> is that an 18bit machine
[18:16] <Langjan> E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/hplip-isv/ppa/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file.
[18:17] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:17] <Kilos> sudo apt update
[18:18] <Langjan> That was the output from update
[18:18] <Kilos> again
[18:18] <Langjan> ok
[18:18] <Kilos> mabe change repos to neology
[18:19] <Kilos> if it fails again
[18:19] <Langjan> same result, am on neulogy
[18:19] <Kilos> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:19] <Langjan> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
[18:19] <Langjan> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
[18:19] <Langjan> ok
[18:20] <Langjan> and then? 
[18:20] <Kilos> did it do aything
[18:21] <Kilos> do the -f command again
[18:21] <Langjan> just went to the next prompt
[18:21] <Kilos> sudo apt-get -f install i think it was
[18:22] <Langjan> Nothing to do there, nil return
[18:22] <Kilos> ok so synatic not starting the display or something
[18:23] <Kilos> thats work for brainy peeps
[18:23] <Kilos> inetpro fix it
[18:23] <Kilos> try
[18:23] <Kilos> sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop
[18:23] <Langjan> ok
[18:24] <Langjan> Nothing to do there either
[18:24] <Kilos> are you sure there is ram in that machine?
[18:24] <Langjan> 8 Gb
[18:24] <Kilos> or ewe
[18:24] <Langjan> ewe?
[18:24] <Kilos> you sure thew ram not dead
[18:25] <Kilos> aybe on someones braai 
[18:25] <Kilos> ai! ek terg toppie
[18:25] <Langjan> well its running so fast maybe it ran away to the ewes
[18:25] <Kilos> lol
[18:26] <Kilos> ok im sure something not installed properly
[18:26] <Kilos> go to software centre
[18:26] <Kilos> type in synaptic
[18:26] <Kilos> tell it install
[18:27] <Kilos> lets see what that says
[18:28] <magespawn> good evening
[18:28] <Langjan> It says install as if its not installed, then when I say install it says installed almost immediately
[18:28] <Langjan> hi magespawn 
[18:28] <magespawn> hi Langjan 
[18:29] <Langjan> Theres an unknown package "waiting to install"
[18:29] <Kilos> aha
[18:29] <Langjan> shows up in the launcher
[18:29] <Kilos> how does one find out what that might be
[18:29] <nasanzero> good evening guys
[18:29] <Kilos> hi nasanzero 
[18:29] <Langjan> hi nasanzero 
[18:30] <Kilos> wrong nick
[18:30] <nasanzero> hi Kilos 
[18:30] <nasanzero> hi Langjan 
[18:30] <superfly> Langjan: ignore those errors, that's typical GTK
[18:30] <nasanzero> hi superfly 
[18:30] <superfly> [11:09:53] <Langjan> Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyFailed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket: No such file or directory
[18:30] <superfly> [11:09:53] <Langjan> Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused
[18:30] <superfly> [11:09:53] <Langjan> (synaptic:14412): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[18:30] <superfly> hi nasanzero
[18:31] <Kilos> superfly he cant open things from launcher even
[18:32] <Kilos> Langjan you using ubuntu?
[18:32] <nasanzero> trying out weechat over irssi tonight 
[18:32] <Langjan> Synaptic shows in launcher but click and it goes away after a while
[18:32] <Kilos> Langjan 
[18:32] <Langjan> yes 16.04
[18:32] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:33] <Kilos> try sudo synaptic again
[18:33] <Langjan> ok
[18:33] <superfly> Kilos: don't sudo synaptic -- doesn't synaptic ask for password?
[18:34] <Kilos> yes if it opens it asks superfly 
[18:34] <nasanzero> looks like your gnome/mir/unity install is damaged Langjan 
[18:34] <Kilos> he cant get it to open
[18:34] <superfly> Kilos: so you're never going to figure out what the problem is if you use sudo
[18:34] <superfly> just run "synaptic" and then see what the output is
[18:35] <Kilos> if we can get it to open he can look for broken packages with it
[18:35] <superfly> nasanzero: I wasn't aware that Ubuntu was using Mir yet
[18:35] <superfly> Kilos: you don't need synaptic for that
[18:35] <superfly> just "sudo apt -f install"
[18:35] <Kilos> tried that
[18:35] <Kilos> made no diffs
[18:35] <Langjan> Wow superfly that opened synaptic immediately
[18:36] <Kilos> ok Langjan reload synaptic
[18:36] <Kilos> then mark all updates
[18:37] <nasanzero> superfly: i not sure what they call it - i dont use ubuntu - sorry 
[18:37] <Kilos> i mean in synaptic hit the reload button
[18:37] <Kilos> does same as apt update
[18:37] <superfly> nasanzero: I meant, I thought they were still using Xorg
[18:38] <Langjan> Kilos, synaptic does not allow "apply"
[18:39] <Kilos> then there may be n one
[18:39] <superfly> Langjan: forget synaptic, use the terminal. Type: sudo apt update
[18:39] <superfly> Langjan: then: sudo apt upgrade
[18:39] <nasanzero> superfly: you are correct - xorg as mir is not mainstream yet 
[18:39] <Kilos> ty superfly 
[18:39] <superfly> You too, Kilos
[18:39] <Kilos> no man ty for helping him
[18:40] <Langjan> ok running update
[18:40] <Kilos> i had that prob maybe 3 releases ago
[18:40] <Langjan> E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/hplip-isv/ppa/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file.
[18:40] <Langjan> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
[18:40] <Langjan> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.
[18:40] <superfly> Langjan: that's a PPA that doesn't support your version of Ubuntu.
[18:40] <Kilos> and only way i got it fixed was to right click reinstall everything showing installed in synaptic
[18:41] <Langjan> Upgrade does not add anything
[18:42] <Langjan> This is all I can do in Synaptic via terminal: You will not be able to apply any changes, but you can still export the marked changes or create a download script for them.
[18:46] <nasanzero> Langjan: did you install something recently ?
[18:47] <Langjan> nasanzero, I did a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04 64 bit 
[18:47] <Langjan> then installed some apps via software centre and skype etc
[18:47] <Langjan> and added my backed up home folder 
[18:48] <nasanzero> you have a ppa in you repository list 
[18:49] <Langjan> not sure what you mean? 
[18:49] <Langjan> yes
[18:49] <nasanzero> 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/hplip-isv/ppa/ubuntu xenial  -> this is not a standard repository
[18:50] <nasanzero> you can do a ppa purge and revert every back to standard 
[18:51] <Langjan> Ok that could help
[18:52] <nasanzero> sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:PPA_Name/ppa
[18:52] <Langjan> Must I put the one 's name in there that you queried? 
[18:53] <nasanzero> just a moment Langjan - i am just checking 
[18:54] <Langjan> I have open terminal with this: Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged.
[18:55] <Kilos> oi
[18:55] <Kilos> snaakse goed
[18:55] <Langjan> ja
[18:55] <nasanzero> have you tired rebooting ? 
[18:56] <Langjan> No, ok shal I do that ? 
[18:56] <nasanzero> wait 
[18:56] <Langjan> ok
[18:56] <nasanzero> that ppa you added was last updated in 2011 !
[18:57] <Langjan> I tried to install hplip and it must have added the ppa in the process
[18:58] <nasanzero> sudo add-apt-repository -- remove ppa:hplip-isv/ppa
[18:58] <Langjan> was unsuccessful
[18:58] <Langjan> ok
[18:58] <Langjan> Error: need a single repository as argument
[18:58] <pavlushka> night Langjan :)
[18:59] <Langjan> gnight pavlushka 
[18:59] <Langjan> sleep well
[18:59] <nasanzero> sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:hplip-isv/ppa
[18:59] <nasanzero> oops i put an extra space in there 
[18:59] <Langjan> ok thks its done
[19:00] <nasanzero> sudo apt update 
[19:00] <nasanzero> sudo apt install -f
[19:00] <Langjan> running
[19:01] <Langjan> all done
[19:01] <Langjan> looks fine
[19:02] <nasanzero> also try -> dmesg | grep error 
[19:03] <Langjan> Quite a long output, where can I post it?
[19:05] <nasanzero> lots of errors ? 
[19:05] <Langjan> Yes quite a few, about 15 lines
[19:06] <Langjan> 10 errors
[19:07] <nasanzero> ok lets try running a new session -> ctrl+alt+2 to start a new session , enter your username and password then run startx 
[19:07] <nasanzero> pressinh ctrl+alt+7 should bring you back to this screen o just try ctrl+alt+other number till you get back here 
[19:11]  * nasanzero waits with crossed fingers
[19:12] <Langjan> Hi nasanzero Im back and synaptic has opened, is working many thanks 
[19:13] <nasanzero> my pleasure Langjan 
[19:13] <Langjan> Much appreciated
[19:13] <Langjan>  and thks a lot again Kilos 
[19:15] <nasanzero> weechat > irssi so far 
[19:21] <Langjan> Thks guys I'm going to love and leave you, sleep well
[19:25] <nasanzero> night night Langjan
[19:48] <magespawn> good night all
[19:49] <nsnzero> night magespawn