[00:49] superfly: i woork for a retailer called dollar tree [00:49] squish102: oh, yep, I've heard of them [00:50] they quite big as a company but don't spend so much on IT [00:50] only have 500-600 ppl in IT [00:51] probably 1000 if you count contractors [07:12] good morning everyone [08:29] o/ [09:24] aw where is maaz [09:26] Kilos: Maaz needs his weekend too it seems [09:27] hehe [09:29] aw cant get into my site [09:30] maaz keeps the correct link [09:30] sigh [09:38] morning all [09:38] hi theblazehen [09:38] * theblazehen is buying another 2 SSDs :) [09:39] That I probably shouldn't [09:41] sjoe [09:41] dont waste [09:41] only get what you need [09:42] Couldn't get just one.. raid 1 isn't faster than raid 0 in speed, and I need 3 for raid 5 [09:42] Don't trust raid 0 at all [09:42] why all ssd [09:42] speed? [09:43] And getting new motherboard and pci-e to sata [09:43] Yeah, not _all_ ssd :) [09:43] they expensive for their size [09:43] Gonna have the 3 SSDs be cache for my 12 HDDs [09:43] aha [09:43] And HDDs in RAID 10 [09:44] And need new motherboard for more sata ports + a faster pci-e link for my GPU, only got a 1x link at the moment, horribly slow, as GPU wants 16x [09:47] eish [09:48] A bit dirty but, http://imgur.com/a/RbrMi current storage box [09:48] It's a mess lol [09:52] morning all [09:52] theblazehen: and you do ceph on top of raid 5 as well? [09:52] * chesedo thought raid1 and raid0 where not the same any way... [09:52] hi chesedo inetpro [09:52] inetpro nah, just gonna do my current bcache + lvm [09:52] chesedo they're not [09:53] I wouldn't risk adding a 2nd drive in raid 0, and 2nd drive in raid 1 won't help performance, so I need to get 2 extra drives to make it 3 for raid 5 [09:55] * chesedo means that 0 is for extending and 1 for mirroring [09:56] yeah [09:56] And I'm saying 1 extra drive is useless to me [09:57] Wish I could upgrade the ram though... Can only fit 32 GB on the board, to be shared between my pc, storage server (1.5 GB or so), and brothers gaming pc... [09:58] My pc only has 19 GB at the moment... [10:01] * theblazehen forgot to migrate my quassel core to my server... Lets see if live migration works [10:02] Laptop it's currently running on is a bit low on specs... [10:03] Running my router vm, vpn vm, apt-cacher-ng + others (planned) container, samba server, backup server, and quassel core on 4 GiB RAM [10:20] fsck. Criu didn't work. Gonna need to shut down to transfer the container [13:12] ebusuku: which kind of web application is that? [15:07] Hi chesedo [15:07] django application [17:11] win 36 [17:26] Good evening all [17:34] hi Langjan [17:34] evening everyone else [17:35] Hi kil [17:35] Kilos, [17:35] haha you forgot how tab works [17:36] preoccupied, lmga [17:36] you ok? [17:36] hehe [17:36] yessir ty im fine [17:36] just tired [17:36] days seem to have got longer [17:36] good, do you feel the vit C helped you? [17:36] no [17:37] i never feel any diffs with whatever [17:37] so what did? [17:37] like peeps say coffee keeps you awake [17:37] not me [17:37] i drink a beer mug of coffee then sleep [17:38] and pain killers that make others lame just touch sides with me [17:38] Hardegat jongman... [17:38] different system i spose [17:39] look at tara and my dna results, try find a higher count [17:39] im an alien i think [17:40] From which planet? [17:40] i have no idea [17:40] anyway i go the 24th for tests at steve biko [17:40] they said no food, only water. and only meat and veggiers day before [17:41] and i go monday for meds [17:41] Sjoe, so you must wait a long time, are they that busy?A [17:41] poor ian losing lots of working time [17:42] well the heart surger department has a 2 to three year waiting list [17:42] they only squeeze very bad cases in between [17:51] Well good luck, I sincerely hope they will sort your problem out [17:52] * inetpro too [17:52] good evening Langjan [17:52] hello inetpro how are you keeping? [17:52] oh and hi everyone else and superfly as well [17:53] ebusuku: i've heard good things about dreamhost... and they support python [17:53] good and you oom Langjan [17:53] ebusuku: welcome back [17:53] Also well thks just battling a bit [17:54] ebusuku: are you looking for a local (ZA) hoster, or international hosting? [17:54] Langjan: what did you break? [17:56] * superfly was editing Apache configs on his server using vim via SSH on his phone last night. yet another reason to prefer vim [17:56] ebusuku: superfly is our python expert so he will be most reliable [17:57] wow superfly [17:57] inetpro, I discovered that my cpu is 64 bit so I installed 16.04 64 bit [17:58] was given the impression that timeshift will restore apps but did not work out [17:58] superfly: I've done that before but with a small screen and soft keyboard can be quite challenging [17:59] inetpro: with vim (and using vim like you're meant to) it was actually really easy. I think also the fact that I have a decent internet connection helps a lot - the lag is minimal [18:00] Langjan: who gave that impression? [18:00] The guy who runs the timeshift website [18:01] anyway I have reinstalled most of the stuff but have a few packages that are messing me around [18:01] * inetpro gies to read about timeshift [18:01] TimeShift is a 2007 first-person shooter? [18:02] s/gies/goes/ [18:02] https://launchpad.net/timeshift [18:03] * inetpro found http://www.teejeetech.in/p/timeshift.html [18:03] Tony George [18:03] Correct [18:04] Langjan: you can't just run 32-bit apps on a 64-bit operating system. you have to run the 64-bit versions [18:04] also, from what I can see, it's up to how you set up TimeShift [18:06] Yes I have installed some 64 bit apps [18:06] Langjan: so if TimeShift restored the 32-bit apps, they will not work. [18:07] Well I did not restore anything via Timeshift in the end [18:08] but did copy my home folder over and maybe created some conflicts? [18:08] e.g. synaptic intalls but does not open [18:08] installs [18:08] ai! [18:08] try run it from cli [18:09] sudo synaptic [18:09] Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyFailed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket: No such file or directory [18:09] Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused [18:09] (synaptic:14412): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 [18:10] sudo apt install synaptic [18:11] something happening now [18:11] installing? [18:12] Had to do apt-get -f install [18:12] ok [18:12] dont know what it did but it ran [18:13] dependencies not installed or orther packages not fully installed i think [18:13] ok now it says synaptic is already latest version [18:14] ok sudo synaptic [18:14] Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyFailed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket: No such file or directory [18:14] Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused [18:14] (synaptic:15214): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 [18:14] ai! [18:15] sudo apt install aptitude [18:15] And does not open via launcher either [18:15] is your screen plugged in [18:15] ok [18:15] hee hee [18:15] jy spot met siekte seuntjie [18:15] ok so something missing [18:15] sudo apt update [18:16] waiting for aptitude to install [18:16] still [18:16] is that an 18bit machine [18:16] E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/hplip-isv/ppa/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file. [18:17] hmm... [18:17] sudo apt update [18:18] That was the output from update [18:18] again [18:18] ok [18:18] mabe change repos to neology [18:19] if it fails again [18:19] same result, am on neulogy [18:19] sudo dpkg --configure -a [18:19] N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. [18:19] N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. [18:19] ok [18:20] and then? [18:20] did it do aything [18:21] do the -f command again [18:21] just went to the next prompt [18:21] sudo apt-get -f install i think it was [18:22] Nothing to do there, nil return [18:22] ok so synatic not starting the display or something [18:23] thats work for brainy peeps [18:23] inetpro fix it [18:23] try [18:23] sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop [18:23] ok [18:24] Nothing to do there either [18:24] are you sure there is ram in that machine? [18:24] 8 Gb [18:24] or ewe [18:24] ewe? [18:24] you sure thew ram not dead [18:25] aybe on someones braai [18:25] ai! ek terg toppie [18:25] well its running so fast maybe it ran away to the ewes [18:25] lol [18:26] ok im sure something not installed properly [18:26] go to software centre [18:26] type in synaptic [18:26] tell it install [18:27] lets see what that says [18:28] good evening [18:28] It says install as if its not installed, then when I say install it says installed almost immediately [18:28] hi magespawn [18:28] hi Langjan [18:29] Theres an unknown package "waiting to install" [18:29] aha [18:29] shows up in the launcher [18:29] how does one find out what that might be [18:29] good evening guys [18:29] hi nasanzero [18:29] hi nasanzero [18:30] wrong nick [18:30] hi Kilos [18:30] hi Langjan [18:30] Langjan: ignore those errors, that's typical GTK [18:30] hi superfly [18:30] [11:09:53] Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyFailed to connect to Mir: Failed to connect to server socket: No such file or directory [18:30] [11:09:53] Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused [18:30] [11:09:53] (synaptic:14412): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 [18:30] hi nasanzero [18:31] superfly he cant open things from launcher even [18:32] Langjan you using ubuntu? [18:32] trying out weechat over irssi tonight [18:32] Synaptic shows in launcher but click and it goes away after a while [18:32] Langjan [18:32] yes 16.04 [18:32] hmm... [18:33] try sudo synaptic again [18:33] ok [18:33] Kilos: don't sudo synaptic -- doesn't synaptic ask for password? [18:34] yes if it opens it asks superfly [18:34] looks like your gnome/mir/unity install is damaged Langjan [18:34] he cant get it to open [18:34] Kilos: so you're never going to figure out what the problem is if you use sudo [18:34] just run "synaptic" and then see what the output is [18:35] if we can get it to open he can look for broken packages with it [18:35] nasanzero: I wasn't aware that Ubuntu was using Mir yet [18:35] Kilos: you don't need synaptic for that [18:35] just "sudo apt -f install" [18:35] tried that [18:35] made no diffs [18:35] Wow superfly that opened synaptic immediately [18:36] ok Langjan reload synaptic [18:36] then mark all updates [18:37] superfly: i not sure what they call it - i dont use ubuntu - sorry [18:37] i mean in synaptic hit the reload button [18:37] does same as apt update [18:37] nasanzero: I meant, I thought they were still using Xorg [18:38] Kilos, synaptic does not allow "apply" [18:39] then there may be n one [18:39] Langjan: forget synaptic, use the terminal. Type: sudo apt update [18:39] Langjan: then: sudo apt upgrade [18:39] superfly: you are correct - xorg as mir is not mainstream yet [18:39] ty superfly [18:39] You too, Kilos [18:39] no man ty for helping him [18:40] ok running update [18:40] i had that prob maybe 3 releases ago [18:40] E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/hplip-isv/ppa/ubuntu xenial Release' does not have a Release file. [18:40] N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. [18:40] N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. [18:40] Langjan: that's a PPA that doesn't support your version of Ubuntu. [18:40] and only way i got it fixed was to right click reinstall everything showing installed in synaptic [18:41] Upgrade does not add anything [18:42] This is all I can do in Synaptic via terminal: You will not be able to apply any changes, but you can still export the marked changes or create a download script for them. [18:46] Langjan: did you install something recently ? [18:47] nasanzero, I did a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04 64 bit [18:47] then installed some apps via software centre and skype etc [18:47] and added my backed up home folder [18:48] you have a ppa in you repository list [18:49] not sure what you mean? [18:49] yes [18:49] 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/hplip-isv/ppa/ubuntu xenial -> this is not a standard repository [18:50] you can do a ppa purge and revert every back to standard [18:51] Ok that could help [18:52] sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:PPA_Name/ppa [18:52] Must I put the one 's name in there that you queried? [18:53] just a moment Langjan - i am just checking [18:54] I have open terminal with this: Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged. [18:55] oi [18:55] snaakse goed [18:55] ja [18:55] have you tired rebooting ? [18:56] No, ok shal I do that ? [18:56] wait [18:56] ok [18:56] that ppa you added was last updated in 2011 ! [18:57] I tried to install hplip and it must have added the ppa in the process [18:58] sudo add-apt-repository -- remove ppa:hplip-isv/ppa [18:58] was unsuccessful [18:58] ok [18:58] Error: need a single repository as argument [18:58] night Langjan :) [18:59] gnight pavlushka [18:59] sleep well [18:59] sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:hplip-isv/ppa [18:59] oops i put an extra space in there [18:59] ok thks its done [19:00] sudo apt update [19:00] sudo apt install -f [19:00] running [19:01] all done [19:01] looks fine [19:02] also try -> dmesg | grep error [19:03] Quite a long output, where can I post it? [19:05] lots of errors ? [19:05] Yes quite a few, about 15 lines [19:06] 10 errors [19:07] ok lets try running a new session -> ctrl+alt+2 to start a new session , enter your username and password then run startx [19:07] pressinh ctrl+alt+7 should bring you back to this screen o just try ctrl+alt+other number till you get back here [19:11] * nasanzero waits with crossed fingers [19:12] Hi nasanzero Im back and synaptic has opened, is working many thanks [19:13] my pleasure Langjan [19:13] Much appreciated [19:13] and thks a lot again Kilos [19:15] weechat > irssi so far [19:21] Thks guys I'm going to love and leave you, sleep well [19:25] night night Langjan [19:48] good night all [19:49] night magespawn