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Wayward_VagabondHow do I go about making a live usb stick from windows?00:18
Wayward_VagabondMy iso of Xenial just finished downloading00:18
glitchdWayward_Vagabond, unetbootin00:19
bazhangWayward_Vagabond, rufus00:22
bazhangunetbootin has some issues00:22
Wayward_Vagabondglitchd, unetbootin doesn't seem to want to let me set the whole drive to be persistent, it's capping at 9999mb00:23
glitchdWayward_Vagabond, what size is the usb?00:24
Wayward_Vagabond64gb00:24
bazhangdid he mean usb hdd?00:24
glitchdWayward_Vagabond, is it a usb stick or hdd?00:24
glitchdWayward_Vagabond, ??00:25
Wayward_VagabondUsb 3.0 stick00:26
Wayward_VagabondI'd like the drive to be a persistent install I can use for recovery purposes, but still be able to install onto the machine it's plugged into like the live media00:28
glitchdWayward_Vagabond, you could try letting it make the 9999 of persistence, then in gparted, extend the persistent partition to the end of the drive?00:28
Wayward_VagabondNever done a usb one before though, so I may be misunderstanding what it can do00:29
geniiIt might be reserving the 5% for superuser00:32
Wayward_VagabondRufus: The image you have selected is an 'ISOHybrid' image. It can be written is ISO Image (file copy) or DD Image (disk image) mode.00:36
Wayward_VagabondDo I want ISO or DD?00:36
ppokojowczykHi, just a seconds ago I removed unused kernels and stuff from /boot because /boot partition ran out of free space00:44
ppokojowczykI've never had it with any other distro and I remember that xubuntu shows a lot of *kernel errors after logging to Xfce00:44
ppokojowczykBy standard and common practice I defined my boot partition as 200 Mb partition00:45
ppokojowczykbut after 2,3 updated / upgrades I ran out of free space on /boot00:46
ppokojowczykI removed all kernels and extras but recent, and everything looks allright00:47
ppokojowczyknevertheless I would like to know how to prevent situations like this00:47
ppokojowczykany suggestions ?00:48
knomeremove old kernels more often00:48
ppokojowczykyeah, but why this problem happens recently?00:48
ppokojowczykis 200 MBs too small for /boot partition ?00:49
knomeprobably00:49
ppokojowczykI've read somewhere that separated /boot partition is good practice  and  most of times it's 200 MBs large .00:50
knomei don't use a separate boot partition and i've never had problems regarding that00:50
ppokojowczykso what do you have ?00:50
ppokojowczykroot & boot ?00:50
knome/ and /home00:50
knome(and then some extra partitions in non-standard locations)00:51
ppokojowczykand never once ran out of space ?00:51
knomeno00:51
knomemost of my data is outside the standard locations though00:51
knomebut the argument stays; you don't really need a separate /boot partition to run your systems00:52
ppokojowczykok, so get this clear ...00:53
ppokojowczykwhat if I have dual-boot00:53
ppokojowczykdo I really need separate /boot partition for this ?00:53
ppokojowczykis there any good reason for this ?00:53
ppokojowczyksorry for my dump questions but I really want to understand this00:54
knomeyou don't need a separate /boot partition for that00:54
ppokojowczykI've really never seen a difference beetween a /root + /boot partition and separated /boot partition00:54
knomei don't have any good reasons for using a separate /boot, but i know there are people who do that and they have their own argumentation, which i don't know00:54
ppokojowczykbut for tutorial - quick guide - good practice reasons - I've always done this00:54
knomethis is just a guess, but there might be some reasons why it has been good practice in the past00:55
ppokojowczykso, to sum things up00:55
knomemany installed systems today don't even have a separate /home, and that might be just fine :)00:56
knome(actually, this installation right here doesn't)00:56
ppokojowczykit's good to have /root partition and don't mind about /boot partition, better have all in one00:56
knomeno, you don't need /root00:57
knomebut you definitely need /00:57
knome;)00:57
knomebut correct, you don't necessarily need a separate /boot if you don't have a good idea why you would00:57
ppokojowczykyeah, my bad, don't keep up to details00:57
knomehaving separate /home might be useful if you store a lot of more or less "persistent" personal data on it - helps with recovering00:58
ppokojowczykfor practical reasons I would keep boot on / to prevent problem I have now ... ran out of space on /boot00:58
knomeyes00:58
knomethat would definitely help with that problem00:58
knomewell at least considering your / partition isn't very small as well00:58
ppokojowczykhmmm00:59
ppokojowczyk...00:59
ppokojowczyki've got 20GB00:59
ppokojowczykand 12GB free00:59
knomethat should be ok00:59
ppokojowczykI consider up to 1GB for boot and kernels and stuff and shiznit ...00:59
ppokojowczykso now I will redirect my MBR to / -> /boot01:01
ppokojowczykguess now i don't have a clue what to do with my first 200 mb's of SSD01:01
knomeleave it there for an easter egg ;)01:02
ppokojowczykwell, more problems, more knowledge ...01:02
knomeindeed01:03
ppokojowczykcan you tell my from where this ingrown of kernel space came up ?01:03
ppokojowczyk* grow-up01:04
ppokojowczykwell, forgive me my poor english ...01:04
knomei don't have the answer to that, but the kernels do tend to build up01:04
knomekernel size too01:04
knomeUnit193, who is lurking, will have a better answer to that01:04
Unit193*Some* of it is supporting more hardware.01:04
knomeand there we go ;)01:05
Unit193knome: What?  I'm no kernel dude!01:05
ppokojowczykok... three kernels... approx 50-60 MBs one01:05
ppokojowczykthat eats up my /boot partition01:05
ppokojowczyksad that xubuntu doesn't clean all the mess up01:06
Unit193Apt does decent, but generally keeps last known working kernel + new one.01:07
Unit193Read /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal for more information.01:08
knomeUnit193 and his fun links01:08
* knome hides01:08
Unit193knome: Hey!  It's on his system!01:08
ppokojowczyki don't get you ... you IRC folks :D01:10
Unit193Note, I haven't fully been reading scrollback, so may have no idea what's going on.01:11
ppokojowczykohh...01:14
ppokojowczykI woke up01:14
Unit193I didn't.01:14
ppokojowczykI red an article that says that separate boot partitions helps keeping dual-boot partitions in consistence01:15
ppokojowczykWell... I'm like one of those scarred-up bitches ... afraid of keeping up separated partitions ...01:17
knomeppokojowczyk, please remember this is a family-friendly channel01:27
ppokojowczykohh... pls, forgive my, my bad01:28
Unit193A partition for /boot can be more fun if you start making use of grml-rescueboot. >_>01:28
ppokojowczykI know nothing about grml-rescueboot... what's that ?01:31
Unit193Allows one to place ISOs in /boot/grml/ and have them show up in grub's boot menu.01:32
ppokojowczykwell, ISO is probably gonna eat more space than regular kernel image ...01:36
ppokojowczyki've checked that kernel eats up 37-38MBs01:38
knomeyes, but is more useful in case you are in the situation where you need "rescueboot" anyway ,)01:46
Unit193knome: Or, lazy and want to boot an iso. :P01:47
knomethat's an option as well01:47
ppokojowczyknooo01:55
knomeanyway, time to sleep01:55
knomegood night!01:55
ppokojowczykno rescueboot and left "iso" boot ...01:55
ppokojowczykmy teeth falls off ...01:56
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