Wayward_Vagabond | How do I go about making a live usb stick from windows? | 00:18 |
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Wayward_Vagabond | My iso of Xenial just finished downloading | 00:18 |
glitchd | Wayward_Vagabond, unetbootin | 00:19 |
bazhang | Wayward_Vagabond, rufus | 00:22 |
bazhang | unetbootin has some issues | 00:22 |
Wayward_Vagabond | glitchd, unetbootin doesn't seem to want to let me set the whole drive to be persistent, it's capping at 9999mb | 00:23 |
glitchd | Wayward_Vagabond, what size is the usb? | 00:24 |
Wayward_Vagabond | 64gb | 00:24 |
bazhang | did he mean usb hdd? | 00:24 |
glitchd | Wayward_Vagabond, is it a usb stick or hdd? | 00:24 |
glitchd | Wayward_Vagabond, ?? | 00:25 |
Wayward_Vagabond | Usb 3.0 stick | 00:26 |
Wayward_Vagabond | I'd like the drive to be a persistent install I can use for recovery purposes, but still be able to install onto the machine it's plugged into like the live media | 00:28 |
glitchd | Wayward_Vagabond, you could try letting it make the 9999 of persistence, then in gparted, extend the persistent partition to the end of the drive? | 00:28 |
Wayward_Vagabond | Never done a usb one before though, so I may be misunderstanding what it can do | 00:29 |
genii | It might be reserving the 5% for superuser | 00:32 |
Wayward_Vagabond | Rufus: The image you have selected is an 'ISOHybrid' image. It can be written is ISO Image (file copy) or DD Image (disk image) mode. | 00:36 |
Wayward_Vagabond | Do I want ISO or DD? | 00:36 |
ppokojowczyk | Hi, just a seconds ago I removed unused kernels and stuff from /boot because /boot partition ran out of free space | 00:44 |
ppokojowczyk | I've never had it with any other distro and I remember that xubuntu shows a lot of *kernel errors after logging to Xfce | 00:44 |
ppokojowczyk | By standard and common practice I defined my boot partition as 200 Mb partition | 00:45 |
ppokojowczyk | but after 2,3 updated / upgrades I ran out of free space on /boot | 00:46 |
ppokojowczyk | I removed all kernels and extras but recent, and everything looks allright | 00:47 |
ppokojowczyk | nevertheless I would like to know how to prevent situations like this | 00:47 |
ppokojowczyk | any suggestions ? | 00:48 |
knome | remove old kernels more often | 00:48 |
ppokojowczyk | yeah, but why this problem happens recently? | 00:48 |
ppokojowczyk | is 200 MBs too small for /boot partition ? | 00:49 |
knome | probably | 00:49 |
ppokojowczyk | I've read somewhere that separated /boot partition is good practice and most of times it's 200 MBs large . | 00:50 |
knome | i don't use a separate boot partition and i've never had problems regarding that | 00:50 |
ppokojowczyk | so what do you have ? | 00:50 |
ppokojowczyk | root & boot ? | 00:50 |
knome | / and /home | 00:50 |
knome | (and then some extra partitions in non-standard locations) | 00:51 |
ppokojowczyk | and never once ran out of space ? | 00:51 |
knome | no | 00:51 |
knome | most of my data is outside the standard locations though | 00:51 |
knome | but the argument stays; you don't really need a separate /boot partition to run your systems | 00:52 |
ppokojowczyk | ok, so get this clear ... | 00:53 |
ppokojowczyk | what if I have dual-boot | 00:53 |
ppokojowczyk | do I really need separate /boot partition for this ? | 00:53 |
ppokojowczyk | is there any good reason for this ? | 00:53 |
ppokojowczyk | sorry for my dump questions but I really want to understand this | 00:54 |
knome | you don't need a separate /boot partition for that | 00:54 |
ppokojowczyk | I've really never seen a difference beetween a /root + /boot partition and separated /boot partition | 00:54 |
knome | i don't have any good reasons for using a separate /boot, but i know there are people who do that and they have their own argumentation, which i don't know | 00:54 |
ppokojowczyk | but for tutorial - quick guide - good practice reasons - I've always done this | 00:54 |
knome | this is just a guess, but there might be some reasons why it has been good practice in the past | 00:55 |
ppokojowczyk | so, to sum things up | 00:55 |
knome | many installed systems today don't even have a separate /home, and that might be just fine :) | 00:56 |
knome | (actually, this installation right here doesn't) | 00:56 |
ppokojowczyk | it's good to have /root partition and don't mind about /boot partition, better have all in one | 00:56 |
knome | no, you don't need /root | 00:57 |
knome | but you definitely need / | 00:57 |
knome | ;) | 00:57 |
knome | but correct, you don't necessarily need a separate /boot if you don't have a good idea why you would | 00:57 |
ppokojowczyk | yeah, my bad, don't keep up to details | 00:57 |
knome | having separate /home might be useful if you store a lot of more or less "persistent" personal data on it - helps with recovering | 00:58 |
ppokojowczyk | for practical reasons I would keep boot on / to prevent problem I have now ... ran out of space on /boot | 00:58 |
knome | yes | 00:58 |
knome | that would definitely help with that problem | 00:58 |
knome | well at least considering your / partition isn't very small as well | 00:58 |
ppokojowczyk | hmmm | 00:59 |
ppokojowczyk | ... | 00:59 |
ppokojowczyk | i've got 20GB | 00:59 |
ppokojowczyk | and 12GB free | 00:59 |
knome | that should be ok | 00:59 |
ppokojowczyk | I consider up to 1GB for boot and kernels and stuff and shiznit ... | 00:59 |
ppokojowczyk | so now I will redirect my MBR to / -> /boot | 01:01 |
ppokojowczyk | guess now i don't have a clue what to do with my first 200 mb's of SSD | 01:01 |
knome | leave it there for an easter egg ;) | 01:02 |
ppokojowczyk | well, more problems, more knowledge ... | 01:02 |
knome | indeed | 01:03 |
ppokojowczyk | can you tell my from where this ingrown of kernel space came up ? | 01:03 |
ppokojowczyk | * grow-up | 01:04 |
ppokojowczyk | well, forgive me my poor english ... | 01:04 |
knome | i don't have the answer to that, but the kernels do tend to build up | 01:04 |
knome | kernel size too | 01:04 |
knome | Unit193, who is lurking, will have a better answer to that | 01:04 |
Unit193 | *Some* of it is supporting more hardware. | 01:04 |
knome | and there we go ;) | 01:05 |
Unit193 | knome: What? I'm no kernel dude! | 01:05 |
ppokojowczyk | ok... three kernels... approx 50-60 MBs one | 01:05 |
ppokojowczyk | that eats up my /boot partition | 01:05 |
ppokojowczyk | sad that xubuntu doesn't clean all the mess up | 01:06 |
Unit193 | Apt does decent, but generally keeps last known working kernel + new one. | 01:07 |
Unit193 | Read /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal for more information. | 01:08 |
knome | Unit193 and his fun links | 01:08 |
* knome hides | 01:08 | |
Unit193 | knome: Hey! It's on his system! | 01:08 |
ppokojowczyk | i don't get you ... you IRC folks :D | 01:10 |
Unit193 | Note, I haven't fully been reading scrollback, so may have no idea what's going on. | 01:11 |
ppokojowczyk | ohh... | 01:14 |
ppokojowczyk | I woke up | 01:14 |
Unit193 | I didn't. | 01:14 |
ppokojowczyk | I red an article that says that separate boot partitions helps keeping dual-boot partitions in consistence | 01:15 |
ppokojowczyk | Well... I'm like one of those scarred-up bitches ... afraid of keeping up separated partitions ... | 01:17 |
knome | ppokojowczyk, please remember this is a family-friendly channel | 01:27 |
ppokojowczyk | ohh... pls, forgive my, my bad | 01:28 |
Unit193 | A partition for /boot can be more fun if you start making use of grml-rescueboot. >_> | 01:28 |
ppokojowczyk | I know nothing about grml-rescueboot... what's that ? | 01:31 |
Unit193 | Allows one to place ISOs in /boot/grml/ and have them show up in grub's boot menu. | 01:32 |
ppokojowczyk | well, ISO is probably gonna eat more space than regular kernel image ... | 01:36 |
ppokojowczyk | i've checked that kernel eats up 37-38MBs | 01:38 |
knome | yes, but is more useful in case you are in the situation where you need "rescueboot" anyway ,) | 01:46 |
Unit193 | knome: Or, lazy and want to boot an iso. :P | 01:47 |
knome | that's an option as well | 01:47 |
ppokojowczyk | nooo | 01:55 |
knome | anyway, time to sleep | 01:55 |
knome | good night! | 01:55 |
ppokojowczyk | no rescueboot and left "iso" boot ... | 01:55 |
ppokojowczyk | my teeth falls off ... | 01:56 |
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