[00:00] <clivejo> looks like thats default on 5.10?
[00:01] <acheronuk> clivejo: in kde4 they were 'not-installed' by JR/phil in kde-runtime which is what added them. for a plasma 5 desktop there are equivalents that can be done the same with
[00:02] <acheronuk> same with plasma-workspace
[00:02] <acheronuk> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kde-runtime/tree/debian/not-installed?h=kubuntu_zesty_archive
[00:02] <acheronuk> what was done for KDE4 ^^
[00:02] <acheronuk> #Kubuntu additions:
[00:02] <acheronuk> # keep desktop tidy
[00:02] <acheronuk> ./usr/share/kde4/apps/kio_desktop/directory.trash
[00:02] <acheronuk> ./usr/share/kde4/apps/kio_desktop/DesktopLinks/Home.desktop
[00:08] <clivejo> dunno, lets see what people think of them first
[00:08] <clivejo> if there is public outcry and rioting on the streets then we can get rid
[00:09] <acheronuk> well. they get in the way of the desktop toolbox a bit
[00:09] <acheronuk> + the wastebin one seems not very useful, as you can't right click to empty it
[00:09] <clivejo> mind asking on -devel ML?
[00:09] <acheronuk> but yes, lets see
[00:10] <clivejo> Im not bother either way
[00:10] <clivejo> its easy for me to sort out
[00:11] <acheronuk> my preference is a clean desktop, and then people can add stuff if they want. 
[00:11] <clivejo> but you are a pro
[00:12] <clivejo> new users like having stuff there and getting rid if they dont like it
[00:12] <acheronuk> yes, but we have not had them there before on plasma 5, and no complaints, so why start now?
[00:13] <clivejo> valorie: do you remember why that was done?
[00:13] <clivejo> or yofel ?
[00:13] <acheronuk> and plasma 5.10 is not out yet. whsoe to say they don't ditch those anyway?
[00:14] <clivejo> true
[00:14] <clivejo> have a patch ready and ask on the ML
[00:14] <valorie> I used to find the trash annoying, because I couldn't empty it
[00:14] <acheronuk> I would say keep our desktop without as it was before
[00:14] <valorie> and I did finally ditch it when I found out that was by design
[00:14] <acheronuk> valorie: you still can't empty it from the desktop
[00:14] <valorie> right
[00:14] <acheronuk> just silly
[00:14] <valorie> so no point in having it
[00:15] <valorie> there is the right-click menu
[00:15] <acheronuk> and a link to 'home'?
[00:15] <clivejo> get rid of both?
[00:15] <clivejo> the Home folder too?
[00:15] <valorie> not that I put anything ON my desktop anymore
[00:15] <acheronuk> just start up dolphin and you go there anyway
[00:15] <valorie> it's just a place for pretty pictures
[00:16] <valorie> well, for a new user, the Home folder is basically dolphin, right?
[00:16] <acheronuk> yes, which is a default in kicker
[00:16] <valorie> again, I never use it, but I"m no beginner
[00:16] <valorie> gosh, I've been running kubuntu for sooooo long
[00:16] <valorie> and kde3 before that in gentoo and mandrake
[00:17] <valorie> back then I did use the desktop
[00:17] <acheronuk> hehe. mandrake --> mandrive -- kubuntu
[00:17] <valorie> and the trash worked like it did in mac and win
[00:17] <acheronuk> *mandriva
[00:17] <acheronuk> with a bit of suse in there somewhere
[00:17] <valorie> so I've long lost my beginner superpower as a user
[00:18] <valorie> tried suse on an old laptop to try to bring it back to life
[00:18] <valorie> but the wifi still didn't work
[00:18] <valorie> so bleah
[00:18] <valorie> didn't really like suse or the community
[00:19] <valorie> they seemed grumpy and non-helpful to a beginner
[00:19] <acheronuk> my uni computer ran suse, that was why
[00:20] <acheronuk> anyway..... we shall see about thsoe icons
[00:21] <acheronuk> my preference is clear I think. get rid! :P
[00:21] <acheronuk> keep the desktop clear as it has been until now.
[00:22] <clivejo> embrace change Rik!
[00:22] <valorie> indeed, no need to bring back clutter and cruft
[00:22] <acheronuk> embrace change if it is good!
[00:23] <acheronuk> if not good, then kick change in the ***s
[00:23] <valorie> \o/
[00:24] <valorie> Resist bad changes -- my whole life right now
[00:24] <valorie> will be so good to go to India for a week and see the world in a different perspective
[00:25] <clivejo> too hot and stick there!
[00:25] <clivejo> sticky
[00:25] <valorie> it will be hot and sticky and I'll have fun anyway
[00:27] <clivejo> hot + sticky != fun
 Sometimes it can be ;)
[00:28] <clivejo> grrrr
[00:32] <valorie> I'm not looking forward to the hot and wet, but I am looking forward to meeting and talking with the students and the KDE folks there
[00:39] <clivejo> acheronuk: you doing a test with libkcddb?
[00:39] <acheronuk> at test of what?
[00:40] <clivejo> patches
[00:40] <acheronuk> what patches
[00:40] <clivejo> the ones with fussy stuff
[00:40] <clivejo> fuzzy
[00:40] <acheronuk> ????
[00:41] <clivejo> on KCI
[00:41] <clivejo> failing to build source due to fuzzy patches
[00:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[00:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kio build #130: FIXED in 11 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kio/130/
[00:42] <acheronuk> that looks to be santa fixing tests in stable 16.12
[00:43] <acheronuk> which likely don't cleanly apply to master
[00:43] <clivejo> grrrr, new lib in pimcommon
[00:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[00:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kio build #417: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kio/417/
[00:47] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[00:47] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kio build #289: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kio/289/
[00:54] <acheronuk> clivejo valorie : https://cgit.kde.org/plasma-desktop.git/commit/?id=30b875939abf3e465030680b5e97e80490dfb12d
[00:55]  * acheronuk wonders if that si backportable?
[00:56] <clivejo> that would fix the empty trash issue?
[00:57] <acheronuk> that is the point of it, yes
[00:57] <acheronuk> seems to work in KCI builds
[00:58] <acheronuk> may try a ppa build somewhere to test it
[01:00] <valorie> wow, I think that's a 5 year-old bug
[01:00] <clivejo> Im gonna have to hit the sack
[01:00] <clivejo> eyes are falling out of me
[01:00] <clivejo> night all
[01:00] <valorie> sweet dreams, clivejo
[01:01] <acheronuk> night clive
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[11:23] <acheronuk> clivejo: okular is not the iso and seems ok :)
[11:23] <acheronuk> also please see https://phabricator.kde.org/T5529
 ^^^ I meant okular is ON the iso :P
 Make up your mind!
 Is it on or not?
 It is on there.
 :p
[11:50] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:08] <acheronuk> time to start sorting things for Sunday lunch. back this afternoon, or maybe not until evening. not sure yet
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[16:00] <clivejo> hi DarinMiller
[16:01] <DarinMiller> hi clivejo!
[16:01] <clivejo> I see you got your LP name fixed
[16:01] <clivejo> did you get your wiki page too?
[16:02] <clivejo> ah, yes you did
[16:02] <clivejo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/~darinmiller
[16:02] <DarinMiller> yes, updated last night
[16:03] <clivejo> you should put your gmail email on there for the time being
[16:05] <acheronuk> lol. small Idaho memory company, Micron Technology
[16:07] <clivejo> soee: have you a KDE login?
[16:09] <DarinMiller> When I started,  we were one of 50+ memory companies competing with the big guys (Texas Instraments, Toshiba, Cypress, etc)
[16:10] <acheronuk> yeah, scary how times change!
[16:10] <DarinMiller> Samsung and Hynix were not even in the game yet.
[16:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkdepim build #74: FAILURE in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkdepim/74/
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[16:13] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_libkdepim build #60: FAILURE in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_libkdepim/60/
[16:14] <soee> clivejo: nope
[16:15] <clivejo> why not?
[16:33] <clivejo> soee: why not?
[16:34] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_libkdepim build #106: STILL FAILING in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_libkdepim/106/
[16:34] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_libkdepim build #61: STILL FAILING in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_libkdepim/61/
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[16:36] <clivejo> I know its still failing, stop retrying it you silly robot#
[16:37] <clivejo> DarinMiller: up to much?
[16:44] <clivejo> ovidiuflorin: you about?
[16:46] <clivejo> anybody?!?
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[16:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[16:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_libkdepim build #62: FIXED in 15 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_libkdepim/62/
[16:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[16:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_libkdepim build #107: FIXED in 16 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_libkdepim/107/
 @clivejo, HAI FRIEND
[17:02] <clivejo> hi
 So what's up?
[17:03] <clivejo> looking for someone to look into KDevelop 5.0.3
 What's up with it?
[17:04] <clivejo> was released a couple of days ago
 You mean 5.0.4?
[17:04] <clivejo> dunno what I mean
[17:05] <clivejo> if thats the new one, then yes
[17:05] <clivejo> yakkety is doing my nut in
 :O
[17:05] <clivejo> how has it different symbols to xenial or zesty?!?
[17:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_libkdepim build #77: STILL FAILING in 10 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_libkdepim/77/
 Well I'm a little busy atm, sorry. I just wanted to see why you urgently needed someone... :P
 santa_ is the symbols man!
[17:06]  * clivejo kicks libkdepim on yakkety
[17:06] <clivejo> not urgent
 Oh k
 Came across that way :P
[17:07] <clivejo> just wondered if Darin or Ovi are free to work on it
[17:07] <clivejo> what are you busy doing?
 Aftershave is burning my face and I was going to walk down to the gas station to get some candy and soda or something. They have Peppermint York hot chocolate. :D
[17:09] <clivejo> why you wearing aftershave?
 Well because I needed to shave,  I had a visible mustache
 All clean shaven now
[17:10] <clivejo> awww bless your little cotton socks !!
 Hehehehehehe :P
 You mean my size 11 socks? :P
[17:17] <clivejo> is muon package manager on the iso?
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[17:27] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[17:27] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_pimcommon build #98: FIXED in 11 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_pimcommon/98/
[17:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[17:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_pimcommon build #81: FIXED in 17 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_pimcommon/81/
[17:34] <DarinMiller> Back for a hour. 
[17:36]  * DarinMiller is buying home closer to work, requires inspection in 1.5 hrs.
[17:41] <DarinMiller> clivejo: I am about now, how can I help?
[17:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_pimcommon build #103: STILL FAILING in 13 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_pimcommon/103/
[17:47]  * DarinMiller is testing zesty daily iso with OEM install.  Desktop folder view default should resolve the missing icon on OEM setup issue...
 <tsimonq2> santa_ is the symbols man!
 :D
[17:49] <santa_> but I wouldn't like to be that forever, so I wrote some stuff you can read https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/packaging/symbols-files/
[17:49] <santa_> (in case you haven't already)
[17:49] <DarinMiller> santa_ is a symbols 'god'
[17:50] <santa_> likewise I wouldn't like to be the autopkgtests man, so  we got this https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/autopkgtests/ a bit improved
 Oh but that's easy
 Symbols are hard!
[17:51] <santa_> autotests are troublesome too
[17:51] <santa_> see the akonadi ones for instance
 But easier than symbols :P
[17:51] <santa_> well, probably
[17:52] <santa_> at least the initial picture for that isn't so big, that's true
[17:52]  * DarinMiller Yes!, the new default folders view on 17.04 fixes the missing "Prepare for shipping..." icon after the 1st boot.
[17:56] <santa_> DarinMiller: so you need something to work on?
[17:57] <DarinMiller> santa_: Yes and no.  clivejo was asking for "anyone" earlier today.  Not sure what he needed.  I need to leave in a half hour and will be gone for about 2 hours.  I can work on something when I return.  Did you have something in mind?
[17:59] <santa_> DarinMiller: using os.path.join instead of doing path + '/' + other_path in a couple of KA scripts
[17:59]  * DarinMiller still needs to finish his symbols training but will be glad to postpone it :)
[18:00] <DarinMiller> as far as I know, both methods are valid, but is the  os.path.joinone causing issue?
[18:00] <santa_> well if you still have doubts with that you may ask later, with that thing there's no hurry
[18:03] <DarinMiller> santa_: did you want me to review/update all KA scripts to use + "/" + syntax?
[18:05] <santa_> DarinMiller: not really, I had just do-all and ka-update-metadata in mind, but if you spot more not using the os,path.join you are welcomed to fix
[18:07] <DarinMiller> I prefer the + "/" myself as it even works with window paths, but I am not aware any issues with os.path.join.  Are you attempting to remove the os depends?
[18:22] <DarinMiller> oh, I see you want to update TO os.join.  I can do that when I return. :)
[18:29] <DarinMiller> OK, be back in a few hours.
[19:20] <clivejo> santa_: are the autotests hanging on messagelib too?
[19:21] <santa_> clivejo: got a fix for that, I'm about to push a couple of things
[19:21] <clivejo> just wondering why its failing in KCI
[19:22] <santa_> but the kci doesn't support autopkgtests I think, what is the problem exactly?
[19:23] <clivejo> fuzz
[19:23] <santa_> patch fuzz
[19:23] <santa_> ?
[19:23] <clivejo> Ive commented it out for the time being in _unstable
[19:24] <santa_> if you I guess you would just have to refresh the patch
[19:24] <clivejo> hopefully upstream will fix the issue by 17.04
[19:40] <acheronuk> if it's refreshable, I would do that rather than disable
[19:46] <clivejo> looks like its built ok
[19:46] <clivejo> Ill grab the source and try a refresh
[19:46] <clivejo> trying to get kmail working again :(
[19:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_messagelib build #205: STILL FAILING in 25 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_messagelib/205/
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[19:51] <acheronuk> clivejo: well, there is a lot on ongoing and maybe unfinished work in progress change to the PIM stack at the moment, so you may be fighting a losing battle on that for now.
[19:51] <clivejo> dunno, rebuilding kmail now
[19:51]  * clivejo crosses fingers
[19:52] <acheronuk> could be ok now? dunno. I saw all the changes and fixes for fixes and then changes again and thought "I'll leave that alone for a bit to let it settle down"
[19:53] <clivejo> it will either fix it, or break even more
[19:53] <clivejo> but Im seeing email notifcations pop up, so the back end is still running
[19:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kmail build #114: STILL FAILING in 4 min 38 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kmail/114/
[19:54] <clivejo> just the kmail gui crashes
[19:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kmail build #148: STILL FAILING in 5 min 15 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kmail/148/
[19:58] <acheronuk> libkf5libkdepimakonadi ?
[19:58] <acheronuk> really needs 'lib' twice in that name?
[20:01] <clivejo> usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5LibkdepimAkonadi.so.5.4.44
[20:01] <clivejo> thats its name!
[20:01] <acheronuk> ugly!
[20:02] <clivejo> and libkf5libkdepim5
[20:02]  * acheronuk shakes head in despair at PIM stack
[20:02] <clivejo> oh great
[20:03] <clivejo> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/KF5WebEngineViewer/KF5WebEngineViewerConfig.cmake, version: 5.4.56
[20:03] <clivejo> Could not find a configuration file for package "KF5WebEngineViewer" that is compatible with requested version "5.4.58"
[20:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kmail build #115: STILL FAILING in 4 min 39 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kmail/115/
[20:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kmail build #149: STILL FAILING in 5 min 14 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kmail/149/
[20:05] <clivejo> weird
[20:06] <clivejo> set(PACKAGE_VERSION "5.4.58")
[20:06] <acheronuk> I guess stuff needs a rebuild that hasn't happened over the weekend
[20:06] <clivejo> I rebuilt it
[20:06] <acheronuk> or someone is fat fingered with the versions
[20:07] <clivejo> kf5-messagelib (4:16.12.2+p17.04+git20170305.1924-0)
[20:07] <acheronuk> it happens with work in progress code.
[20:08] <clivejo> no, but the built version is 5.4.58
[20:08]  * clivejo checks which version what installed during build of kmail
[20:09] <clivejo> Get:691 http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ci/unstable/ubuntu zesty/main amd64 libkf5webengineviewer-dev amd64 4:16.12.2+p17.04+git20170305.1924-0 [19.2 kB]
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[21:50] <genii-netbook> Is there any way to make system tray put alerts in a specific area?  
[21:53] <genii-netbook> ..with KDE Connect active I'm getting alerts every minute or two from email that cover the text input field of Quassel. But I'd like to just tell system tray to put the alerts in a different area of the screen rather than just turning it off
[21:55] <acheronuk> genii-netbook: do that work for those? http://i.imgur.com/TxHGAiX.png
[21:56] <genii-netbook> Ah, so in System settings?
[21:56] <clivejo> Personalisation > Notifactions
[21:59] <acheronuk> maybe. I got there by right clicking the notifications icon on the systemtray, and selecting "Notifications settings" from that pop up menu
[22:00] <clivejo> ah
[22:00] <clivejo> yes, thats same on mine
[22:00] <clivejo> I changed that ages ago and forgot how!
[22:01] <DarinMiller_> Just signed in. What's the issue?
[22:01] <acheronuk> [21:50] <genii-netbook> Is there any way to make system tray put alerts in a specific area?  
[22:01] <acheronuk> [21:52] * DarinMiller (~darin@unaffiliated/darinmiller) has joined
[22:01] <acheronuk> [21:53] <genii-netbook> ..with KDE Connect active I'm getting alerts every minute or two from email that cover the text input field of Quassel. But I'd like to just tell system tray to put the alerts in a different area of the screen rather than just turning it off
[22:02] <acheronuk> DarinMiller_: ^^^
[22:02] <acheronuk> and hi :)
[22:03] <clivejo> my desktop icons look fairy-dusty
[22:04] <genii-netbook> I can't find that setting either in System Settings-Personalization-Notifications, when I rightclick on system tray, I get System tray settings and Panel options, neither of which also have options of where to put the notifications
[22:05] <acheronuk> genii-netbook: what verion of plasma are you using?
[22:05] <genii-netbook> Whatever is stock in Zesty
[22:06] <clivejo> is there a little arrow in your tray?
[22:06] <genii-netbook> Yes, thats the one if I right-click I get System Tray Settings and Panel Options
[22:07] <clivejo> Status & Notifications 
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[22:07] <clivejo> then menu click on Notifications
[22:07] <clivejo> and Notifications Settings
[22:08] <acheronuk> genii-netbook: http://i.imgur.com/4pWvSdx.png
[22:08] <clivejo> grrrr
[22:08] <acheronuk> the right click needs to be on that icon, not generally on the system tray
[22:11] <genii-netbook> Ah, got there now! Thanks
[22:11] <acheronuk> it is a bit hidden away :/ I had not even realised it was there until recently
[22:13] <genii-netbook> Yes, not obvious. 
[22:13]  * DarinMiller_ learned something today... he can go home now....
[22:14] <clivejo> stay and learn more!
[22:15] <genii-netbook> Updates finished, reboot required
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[22:20]  * DarinMiller_ is already home... ^^^ saying we use at work when we want to go home :)
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[22:31]  * clivejo kicks kmail
[22:33]  * acheronuk pats thunderbird
[22:36] <acheronuk> lol. -- QtWebEngine 5.7.0 doesn't provide printing support. It has a lot of regression. Better to upgrade QtWebEngine to 5.8.0
[22:36] <acheronuk> so so easy to do!
[22:37] <clivejo> can you see whats wrong?
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[22:49] <DarinMiller_> santa_: requested ka changes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24121080/
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[22:51] <DarinMiller_> clivejo, acheronuk or santa_: I can mp against ka now that it is in the new location, yes?
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[22:52] <acheronuk> DarinMiller_: yep
[22:52] <santa_> yep (II)
[22:52] <DarinMiller_> proceeding with mp now... the mp diff will be much easier to read....
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[23:00] <DarinMiller_> for mp against ka, why is git angry when I try this: git push lpme:ka
[23:00] <DarinMiller_> crap, nm 
[23:04] <DarinMiller_> I forgot to checkout.  Checkout master?
[23:05] <DarinMiller_> for ka tools ^
[23:15] <DarinMiller_> anyone ^
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[23:15] <clivejo> it should clone master by default
[23:17] <santa_> I presume you are trying to create your clone to do the mr
[23:17] <DarinMiller_> origin/master = master?  git status says origin/master
[23:18] <DarinMiller_> I had cloned quite some time ago and performed a fresh pull this morning.
[23:18] <DarinMiller_> But I did not specify anything different that the default for checkout. 
[23:19] <santa_> so now you have to add an extra remote
[23:19] <santa_> let me see if I find a conversation I had with ovi...
[23:20] <DarinMiller_> do something like this? https://help.github.com/articles/adding-a-remote/
[23:21] <santa_> DarinMiller_: I hope this helps https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/02/26/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t13:37
[23:24] <valorie> DarinMiller_: added my endorsement to your wiki page
[23:24] <valorie> congratulations for persisting and doing the page
[23:26] <DarinMiller_> thanks valorie, clivejo was a big help as usual.  Not sure if he had to nudge anyone in the background approve my wiki contrib. request.
[23:27] <DarinMiller_> valorie: thank you for the kinds words :)
[23:29] <valorie> yw, but not kind -- just accurate!
[23:29] <clivejo> DarinMiller_: where is the doodle?!?
[23:30] <clivejo> DarinMiller_: doodle.com
[23:31] <DarinMiller_> I was trying to remember the name of that site.... doodle coming soon
[23:31]  * clivejo twiddles fingers
[23:32]  * genii-netbook examines bellybutton lint
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