/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/03/05/#ubuntu-za.txt

=== MaNL is now known as MaNI
nsnzerogood morning all09:46
nsnzeroevening all17:43
superflymorning nsnzero17:58
nsnzerohi superfly 18:05
* nsnzero wonders if there is a gui for dd18:06
kulelu88dd?18:28
MaNIprobably several18:30
MaNIhttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/gdiskdump-gui-for-diskdump-dd.html18:33
LangjanHi everybody18:36
kulelu88hey oupa Langjan 18:38
Langjanhi kulelu88 hows the young man18:39
kulelu88goed oupa, how you doing? 18:39
Langjanfine thks18:39
LangjanWho is the hexchat settings expert?18:42
smileHi :)18:51
LangjanHi smile how are you keeping?18:51
smileHi Langjan, I'm doing mostly okay :) No major issues to speak of, how are you?18:52
kulelu88Langjan: what's the problem and we shall answer18:52
Langjankulelu88, I cannot get it to keep previous chats to scroll back to19:09
LangjanI have ticked everything in logging, no change 19:10
kulelu88Langjan: Settings > Preferences > Logging19:10
kulelu88your scrollback lines must be increased to as much as you can Langjan 19:10
nsnzeroevening guys 19:11
LangjanIts on 50019:11
Langjanhi nsnzero 19:11
nsnzerohi Langjan and kulelu88 19:11
kulelu88so that means you've reached the 500 lines Langjan 19:11
kulelu88yo nsnzero 19:11
LangjanIt only shows the current day19:12
nsnzeroLangjan: what client you using ?19:12
Langjansorry nsnzero, client?19:13
kulelu88create log-files Langjan 19:13
kulelu88nsnzero: hexchat19:13
nsnzeroprogram - hexchat is a irc client 19:14
Langjanok thks nsnzero - jargon comes slow to ballies19:14
Langjanclient is buyer to me19:15
kulelu88Langjan: it comes from client/server19:15
nsnzeroLangjan: my apologies - i will refrain from using tech speak 19:15
Langjanok19:15
Langjankulelu88, create log files here: %n/%c.log ?19:17
kulelu88Langjan: that is just how the log-file name will look. see the button "open data folder" will take you to the logs19:18
nsnzerosorry Langjan i cant seem to remember hexchat settings - i use irssi and weechat 19:18
Langjan#ubuntu-za.log?19:20
LangjanLet me check it19:21
kulelu88Langjan: leave the name as-is there. the log will be in: config/hexchat/logs/freenode/19:21
LangjanNo I have not got it right yet19:22
nsnzeroLangjan: what do you want to check in the log file ?19:23
kulelu88there won't be any logs currently. the data will be lost (IIRC)19:23
Langjannsnzero, I just want to be able to scroll back to the previous session's chats  19:25
Langjannsnzero, the option "display scrollback from previous session" is ticked with 3 000 scrollback lines but every new session starts from scratch19:29
nsnzeroi do see an option to show logs on joining a channel 19:31
LangjanLog filename is #ubuntu-za.log - maybe this is where I went wroong but dont know how to edit it. Guide says Server/channel/network19:31
kulelu88you shouldn't edit the logfile. it it just to log data19:32
LangjanOK kulelu88 I have reset it to what it was19:35
Kilosnight all. sleep tight. i gotta leave at 5 am for hospital to copd clinic for meds. sigh19:36
Kiloslekker slaap oom Langjan 19:37
LangjanGo well Kilos  and strongs for tomorrow19:37
Kilosty very much19:37
Kilosi got more vit c19:37
Kilosso stop nagging19:38
Kiloshehe19:38
nsnzeronight kilos - all the best 19:38
* Kilos waves19:38
LangjanGreat, now overdose19:38
Kilosty19:38
LangjanBye19:38
nsnzeronsnzero19:40
Langjannsnzero, I'm also quitting, chat later have a good evening19:43
nsnzeronight Langjan - sleep well 19:44
Langjan'bye all19:44
Langjanthanks nsnzero you too19:44
Langjanwanted to wait up for the sevens but another two hours...19:44
LangjanMaybe I'll get up again but then must retire now19:45
kulelu88wow, some dude just threatened to hell-ban me from a channel 0.o19:55
nsnzerowhat were you tying there 19:56
nsnzero*typing 19:56
kulelu88nothing. the guy accused me of being a nazi because I have 88 in my username19:57
nsnzerothat is just madness 20:00
chesedolol, the likes of some people20:02
nsnzerohi chesedo 20:03
nsnzerolots of crazies in the world 20:03
kulelu88it wasn't some random either. this was a guy from a big IRC channel 20:04
nsnzeroi was reading this article on amd vs intel - but i always scroll down to the comments first 20:06
kulelu88intel and AMD share a closer relationship than people know20:06
nsnzeroreading the first couple of comments verifies the facts in the article 20:07
nsnzerobut these 2 guys where giving it a go - then a couple other joined in 20:07
nsnzeroarticles are like the newspaper , comments are the comics in the newspaper20:09
kulelu88as I understand, comments on local news-sites were so toxic that most companies/providers switched them off20:10
nsnzeroi will never forget my semprom processor - its was fast and the board had a nvidia chipset - geforce 2 20:11
nsnzeroamd released their ryzen cpu / apu - so far its on par with the i7 but alot cheaper20:12
* nsnzero wonders if he will ever see a 8 core laptop at a reasonable price20:14
nsnzerogoodnight guys - got work to look forward to tomorrow 20:15
superflykulelu88: yup, News24 and IOL both switched off comments because of the mud slinging20:17
* superfly can remember the first iteration of comments on IOL articles, because he was working for them20:17
kulelu88superfly: IIRC, the forums on mybb are toxic also20:17
superflykulelu88: I haven't done much in the forums20:18
MaNIwell thats their excuse at least, it's not like they put much effort into bringing it under control before they did it20:18
superflyI've occasionally looked for help on there, and generally hung around the Linux forum (until there were too many Windows snobs who wanted to convert everyone to Windows)20:18
kulelu88working with objects/software is way nicer than having to deal with people and their agendas20:18
MaNInew24 comment section was hilariously badly done/managed20:19
superflytotally20:19
MaNI*news2420:19
kulelu88I'd rather argue about functions vs. OOP than white vs. black . the former matters little and coders will still be friends. the latter, well ...20:19
MaNIand it's not like they don't still publish a bunch of articles that are just mud slinging still anyway, so who knows what the real agenda is20:20
kulelu88SA media does love doom-and-gloom stories though. "the country is about to crumble" each time something happens in the ANC20:21
MaNIthere were often comments pointing out how wildly inaccurate/flamebaitish/totally incorrect the articles were - I found those quite insightful often20:21
MaNII bet thats the actual reason they wanted the comments gone20:22
MaNIlets be honest, the quality of journalism on news24 is pretty rubbish :(20:22
kulelu88what is that rule about experts calling out poor journalism in their(experts) area of expertise, but then turning the page and believing every other article?20:23
MaNI"The Murray Gell-Mann Amnesia effect" apparently20:24
kulelu88thanks for helping me find it MaNI . 20:26
MaNIeither way, the comments provided a nice way to allow for "the other side" of the story to be heard, and/or for wild inaccuracies to be pointed out etc. so I trust it even less as a news source now20:27
MaNIit's a pity that they leapt on the bickering racists as an excuse to remove it, instead of simply doing some sensible bans in conjunction with a karma system or similar20:27
kulelu88voting rings are the problem then. a bunch of agend-ists will just upvote each other repeatedly.20:37
superflyMaNI: Let me tell you what the news companies are really interested in: money. they don't actually care about the news.20:56
superflyinetpro, chesedo, paddatrapper: I've just moved OpenLP over to our own hosted instance of WeKan. I've also made my own personal version on my server. Are you guys interested in moving Ubuntu-ZA to WeKan?22:48

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