[09:46] <nsnzero> good morning all
[17:43] <nsnzero> evening all
[17:58] <superfly> morning nsnzero
[18:05] <nsnzero> hi superfly 
[18:06]  * nsnzero wonders if there is a gui for dd
[18:28] <kulelu88> dd?
[18:30] <MaNI> probably several
[18:33] <MaNI> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/gdiskdump-gui-for-diskdump-dd.html
[18:36] <Langjan> Hi everybody
[18:38] <kulelu88> hey oupa Langjan 
[18:39] <Langjan> hi kulelu88 hows the young man
[18:39] <kulelu88> goed oupa, how you doing? 
[18:39] <Langjan> fine thks
[18:42] <Langjan> Who is the hexchat settings expert?
[18:51] <smile> Hi :)
[18:51] <Langjan> Hi smile how are you keeping?
[18:52] <smile> Hi Langjan, I'm doing mostly okay :) No major issues to speak of, how are you?
[18:52] <kulelu88> Langjan: what's the problem and we shall answer
[19:09] <Langjan> kulelu88, I cannot get it to keep previous chats to scroll back to
[19:10] <Langjan> I have ticked everything in logging, no change 
[19:10] <kulelu88> Langjan: Settings > Preferences > Logging
[19:10] <kulelu88> your scrollback lines must be increased to as much as you can Langjan 
[19:11] <nsnzero> evening guys 
[19:11] <Langjan> Its on 500
[19:11] <Langjan> hi nsnzero 
[19:11] <nsnzero> hi Langjan and kulelu88 
[19:11] <kulelu88> so that means you've reached the 500 lines Langjan 
[19:11] <kulelu88> yo nsnzero 
[19:12] <Langjan> It only shows the current day
[19:12] <nsnzero> Langjan: what client you using ?
[19:13] <Langjan> sorry nsnzero, client?
[19:13] <kulelu88> create log-files Langjan 
[19:13] <kulelu88> nsnzero: hexchat
[19:14] <nsnzero> program - hexchat is a irc client 
[19:14] <Langjan> ok thks nsnzero - jargon comes slow to ballies
[19:15] <Langjan> client is buyer to me
[19:15] <kulelu88> Langjan: it comes from client/server
[19:15] <nsnzero> Langjan: my apologies - i will refrain from using tech speak 
[19:15] <Langjan> ok
[19:17] <Langjan> kulelu88, create log files here: %n/%c.log ?
[19:18] <kulelu88> Langjan: that is just how the log-file name will look. see the button "open data folder" will take you to the logs
[19:18] <nsnzero> sorry Langjan i cant seem to remember hexchat settings - i use irssi and weechat 
[19:20] <Langjan> #ubuntu-za.log?
[19:21] <Langjan> Let me check it
[19:21] <kulelu88> Langjan: leave the name as-is there. the log will be in: config/hexchat/logs/freenode/
[19:22] <Langjan> No I have not got it right yet
[19:23] <nsnzero> Langjan: what do you want to check in the log file ?
[19:23] <kulelu88> there won't be any logs currently. the data will be lost (IIRC)
[19:25] <Langjan> nsnzero, I just want to be able to scroll back to the previous session's chats  
[19:29] <Langjan> nsnzero, the option "display scrollback from previous session" is ticked with 3 000 scrollback lines but every new session starts from scratch
[19:31] <nsnzero> i do see an option to show logs on joining a channel 
[19:31] <Langjan> Log filename is #ubuntu-za.log - maybe this is where I went wroong but dont know how to edit it. Guide says Server/channel/network
[19:32] <kulelu88> you shouldn't edit the logfile. it it just to log data
[19:35] <Langjan> OK kulelu88 I have reset it to what it was
[19:36] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight. i gotta leave at 5 am for hospital to copd clinic for meds. sigh
[19:37] <Kilos> lekker slaap oom Langjan 
[19:37] <Langjan> Go well Kilos  and strongs for tomorrow
[19:37] <Kilos> ty very much
[19:37] <Kilos> i got more vit c
[19:38] <Kilos> so stop nagging
[19:38] <Kilos> hehe
[19:38] <nsnzero> night kilos - all the best 
[19:38]  * Kilos waves
[19:38] <Langjan> Great, now overdose
[19:38] <Kilos> ty
[19:38] <Langjan> Bye
[19:40] <nsnzero> nsnzero
[19:43] <Langjan> nsnzero, I'm also quitting, chat later have a good evening
[19:44] <nsnzero> night Langjan - sleep well 
[19:44] <Langjan> 'bye all
[19:44] <Langjan> thanks nsnzero you too
[19:44] <Langjan> wanted to wait up for the sevens but another two hours...
[19:45] <Langjan> Maybe I'll get up again but then must retire now
[19:55] <kulelu88> wow, some dude just threatened to hell-ban me from a channel 0.o
[19:56] <nsnzero> what were you tying there 
[19:56] <nsnzero> *typing 
[19:57] <kulelu88> nothing. the guy accused me of being a nazi because I have 88 in my username
[20:00] <nsnzero> that is just madness 
[20:02] <chesedo> lol, the likes of some people
[20:03] <nsnzero> hi chesedo 
[20:03] <nsnzero> lots of crazies in the world 
[20:04] <kulelu88> it wasn't some random either. this was a guy from a big IRC channel 
[20:06] <nsnzero> i was reading this article on amd vs intel - but i always scroll down to the comments first 
[20:06] <kulelu88> intel and AMD share a closer relationship than people know
[20:07] <nsnzero> reading the first couple of comments verifies the facts in the article 
[20:07] <nsnzero> but these 2 guys where giving it a go - then a couple other joined in 
[20:09] <nsnzero> articles are like the newspaper , comments are the comics in the newspaper
[20:10] <kulelu88> as I understand, comments on local news-sites were so toxic that most companies/providers switched them off
[20:11] <nsnzero> i will never forget my semprom processor - its was fast and the board had a nvidia chipset - geforce 2 
[20:12] <nsnzero> amd released their ryzen cpu / apu - so far its on par with the i7 but alot cheaper
[20:14]  * nsnzero wonders if he will ever see a 8 core laptop at a reasonable price
[20:15] <nsnzero> goodnight guys - got work to look forward to tomorrow 
[20:17] <superfly> kulelu88: yup, News24 and IOL both switched off comments because of the mud slinging
[20:17]  * superfly can remember the first iteration of comments on IOL articles, because he was working for them
[20:17] <kulelu88> superfly: IIRC, the forums on mybb are toxic also
[20:18] <superfly> kulelu88: I haven't done much in the forums
[20:18] <MaNI> well thats their excuse at least, it's not like they put much effort into bringing it under control before they did it
[20:18] <superfly> I've occasionally looked for help on there, and generally hung around the Linux forum (until there were too many Windows snobs who wanted to convert everyone to Windows)
[20:18] <kulelu88> working with objects/software is way nicer than having to deal with people and their agendas
[20:19] <MaNI> new24 comment section was hilariously badly done/managed
[20:19] <superfly> totally
[20:19] <MaNI> *news24
[20:19] <kulelu88> I'd rather argue about functions vs. OOP than white vs. black . the former matters little and coders will still be friends. the latter, well ...
[20:20] <MaNI> and it's not like they don't still publish a bunch of articles that are just mud slinging still anyway, so who knows what the real agenda is
[20:21] <kulelu88> SA media does love doom-and-gloom stories though. "the country is about to crumble" each time something happens in the ANC
[20:21] <MaNI> there were often comments pointing out how wildly inaccurate/flamebaitish/totally incorrect the articles were - I found those quite insightful often
[20:22] <MaNI> I bet thats the actual reason they wanted the comments gone
[20:22] <MaNI> lets be honest, the quality of journalism on news24 is pretty rubbish :(
[20:23] <kulelu88> what is that rule about experts calling out poor journalism in their(experts) area of expertise, but then turning the page and believing every other article?
[20:24] <MaNI> "The Murray Gell-Mann Amnesia effect" apparently
[20:26] <kulelu88> thanks for helping me find it MaNI . 
[20:27] <MaNI> either way, the comments provided a nice way to allow for "the other side" of the story to be heard, and/or for wild inaccuracies to be pointed out etc. so I trust it even less as a news source now
[20:27] <MaNI> it's a pity that they leapt on the bickering racists as an excuse to remove it, instead of simply doing some sensible bans in conjunction with a karma system or similar
[20:37] <kulelu88> voting rings are the problem then. a bunch of agend-ists will just upvote each other repeatedly.
[20:56] <superfly> MaNI: Let me tell you what the news companies are really interested in: money. they don't actually care about the news.
[22:48] <superfly> inetpro, chesedo, paddatrapper: I've just moved OpenLP over to our own hosted instance of WeKan. I've also made my own personal version on my server. Are you guys interested in moving Ubuntu-ZA to WeKan?