[00:00] <EriC^^> texla: what happens when you do?
[00:01] <Bashing-om> texla: I understand that you have a chainloading issue . However, which system do you intend as your primary system ?
[00:02] <texla> EriC^^, I have to go back to menu window but if gives an error
[00:02] <EriC^^> texla: are you booted in ubuntu right now?
[00:02] <EriC^^> texla: Bashing-om 's question is very relevant here, which system is going to be your primary?
[00:03] <texla> Bashing-om, Ubuntu 16.04.2 is my primary system I only want to use the other as a backup
[00:03] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: IRT texla : http://pastebin.com/8RMUcNAL for the grub config file .
[00:04] <texla> EriC^^, Yes I cannot bot the other which is on sda3
[00:04] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: thanks
[00:05] <EriC^^> texla: cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999
[00:05] <Bashing-om> texla: Show is now the result in a pastebin ' cat /mnt/looksee/etc/default/grub ' . Let's see that the ducks are in a row before we go shooting . ( booted from sda6 ) .
[00:06] <EriC^^> texla: quiet splash is case sensitive, so that's why it's not working
[00:08] <Matt|home> hey, quick question - is there a generic way to directly read running CPU temp in ubuntu or not really
[00:08] <Matt|home> 'cause im pretty sure the output im getting is for the internal case, not the cpu
[00:08] <EriC^^> Matt|home: the program "sensors" gives the temps in the terminal, and psensors is great as a gui temp
[00:08] <Bashing-om> Matt|home: see ' man inxi '  There is a direct means here .
[00:09] <Matt|home> sensors and inxi ?
[00:09] <Matt|home> mkay, thanks
[00:09] <Bashing-om> Matt|home: "inxi" can relate LOTS of info .
[00:10] <newone1> no one?
[00:10] <Matt|home> i have to install them
[00:10] <bazhang> newone1, done the recreation of the usb stick yet?
[00:10] <texla> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/wZfYdLTu
[00:10] <Bashing-om> Matt|home: 16.04+ inxi is installed by default .
[00:11] <Matt|home> hm, im not seeing it. sec
[00:11] <newone1> bazhang: i have already done twice. now i'm using unetbootin
[00:11] <Matt|home> corroect spelling: India Nova Xylophone India ?
[00:12] <Matt|home> looks like i have to install it, no biggie
[00:13] <Bashing-om> Matt|home: " sysop@x1604:~$ dpkg -l inxi >> ii  inxi           2.2.35-0ubun all  " .
[00:13] <nubfilter> hi all. I'm running ubuntu 16.10 and recently installed kde-desktop.. now after each reboot my zpool is gone and I have to run zpool import each time. any ideas why this is happening and how to fix it?
[00:13] <newone1> bazhang: its by the way a clear problem from ubuntu
[00:13] <texla> Bashing-om, That cat only brings up blank window
[00:14] <Matt|home> installing now
[00:14] <Bashing-om> texla: EriC^^ Will be good to see ' sudo blkid ' .
[00:14] <EriC^^> texla: do you get the proper grub menu? with Linux lite listed towards the bottom?
[00:14] <texla> EriC^^, I tried quiet splash with no results
[00:15] <EriC^^> texla: did you update-grub?
[00:15] <Bashing-om> texla: That ^ can not be good . what results ' ls -al /mnt/looksee/default/grub ' . You are still booted with sda6 right , and /mnt/looksee/ is still active ?
[00:16] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: texla ah, the linux lines are missing in the linux lite entries, line 850 for example
[00:16] <Walex> nubfilter: #ZFSonLinux seems more appropriate
[00:16] <Matt|home> CPU~Quad core Intel Pentium J2850 (-MCP-) speed/max~2411/2415 MHz Kernel~4.8.0-36-generic x86_64 Up~2 days Mem~1473.4/3830.7MB HDD~500.1GB(20.4% used) Procs~248 Client~Shell inxi~2.2.35
[00:16] <Matt|home> i.. apparently have a quad-core processor ??????????
[00:17] <nubfilter> Walex: I tried there... but #zfsonlinux :Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[00:17] <EriC^^> texla: are you sure linux lite still has kernels and initrds? i have a sneaking suspicion you overwrote its /boot partition or something
[00:17] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: We need to excercise extreme caution in what texla is booted into and what we are looking at // from what perspective .
[00:17] <texla> Bashing-om, http://pastebin.com/whHhAbH3
[00:17] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: he said only ubuntu boots right now
[00:18] <EriC^^> but yeah you're right it's important which os is running right now
[00:18] <Matt|home> Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 26.8C mobo: N/A
[00:18] <Matt|home>            Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
[00:18] <Matt|home> yeah there's no way that's even remotely accurate, im calling bullshit
[00:19] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Right, but I did have him into sda3 on mounting from /mnt/looksee . Need to know what we are looking at ; sda3 or sda6 .
[00:20] <kulelu88> Hello all
[00:20] <kulelu88> when running this command: L=/usr/local/bin/flynn && curl -sSL -A "`uname -sp`" https://dl.flynn.io/cli | zcat >$L && chmod +x $L
[00:20] <Bashing-om> Matt|home: in order for lm-sensors to work ya got to run ' sudo sensors detect ' to set up the config files .
[00:20] <anonymoUS> alguien habla espanol
[00:20] <kulelu88> I get: bash: /usr/local/bin/flynn: Permission denied
[00:20] <kulelu88> how do I fix this?
[00:20] <anonymoUS> ?
[00:21] <Guest17802> espanol?
[00:21] <Guest17802> nadie?
[00:21] <kulelu88> Guest17802: hablar engles only.
[00:21] <kulelu88> #ubuntu-es
[00:22] <texla> EriC^^, /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 36: /etc/default/grub: o: not found
[00:22] <texla> ..When updating-grub
[00:22] <Guest17802> alguien en espanol?
[00:22] <EriC^^> texla: could you please run " (cat /mnt/looksee/etc/{issue,fstab}; ls -l /mnt/looksee/boot; sudo parted -l) | nc termbin.com 9999  "
[00:22] <Matt|home> mkay, thanks Bashing-om
[00:22] <Matt|home> o\
[00:23] <Igor-franklin> un translate.google.com
[00:23] <newone1> bazhang: no man,, screen goes black on clicking install ubuntu
[00:24] <texla> EriC^^, How can I copy your command
[00:24] <EriC^^> texla: highlight it and press middle mouse button to paste it
[00:28] <texla> EriC^^, bash:  (cat /mnt/looksee/etc/{issue,fstab}; ls -l /mnt/looksee/boot; sudo parted -l) | nc termbin.com 9999  : No such file or directory
[00:29] <EriC^^> texla: did you copy the quotes as well ? (you shouldn't)
[00:30] <EriC^^> is /mnt/looksee still mounted?
[00:31] <texla> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/p81t
[00:31] <EriC^^> texla: ok, so it has kernels
[00:32] <EriC^^> so basically the problem is with ubuntu's grub and os-prober
[00:32] <EriC^^> texla: try "  ls /etc/default/grub  "    do you get anything?
[00:33] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Ouch " vmlinuz-3.13.0-24-generic" system has never been updated .
[00:34] <texla> EriC^^, blank window
[00:35] <EriC^^> texla: try "  cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999  "
[00:35] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: yeah, probably should run a full upgrade once he's booted
[00:36] <texla> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/5z8y
[00:37] <EriC^^> texla: ok, type sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[00:37] <EriC^^> change "QUIET SPLASH" to "quiet splash"
[00:37] <EriC^^> and at the very bottom, remove the "o" , it's probably from missing the ctrl when pressing ctrl+o
[00:41] <bobolo> hi. how can i redirect all network traffic from wlan0 to eth0 using iptables ?
[00:41] <beshoo>  using latest CURL curl 7.52.1  , i am tring to connect to https proxy i got "SSL certificate problem: unable to get local issuer certificate " while curl global system var  CURL_CA_BUNDLE=/etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt
[00:41] <beshoo> please advice
[00:42] <Guest17802> ds
[00:44] <texla> EriC^^, I made the change but as usual with nano I cannot save and exit file now at save with different name will not take n
[00:45] <EriC^^> texla: press ctrl+x then press enter
[00:46] <EriC^^> texla: did you use sudo?
[00:47] <texla> EriC^^, I pressed ctr-x
[00:47] <EriC^^> ok, press "y" then enter
[00:48] <texla> EriC^^, Is that not going to write to different fil thad /etc/default/grub
[00:49] <EriC^^> texla: no, make sure the filename is still the same
[00:50] <ctindel> is this the right place to ask an ubuntu bug question?
[00:51] <ctindel> half the time I run a packer build in us-east-2 it fails on installing the zip package for some reason
[00:55] <texla> EriC^^, Okay checked /etc/default/grub now quiet splash
[00:56] <EriC^^> texla: ok, try sudo update-grub
[00:57] <texla> EriC^^, /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 36: /etc/default/grub: o: not found
[00:57] <EriC^^> texla: the "o" is still there
[00:58] <EriC^^> texla: sudo sed -i '/^o$/d' /etc/default/grub
[00:58] <texla> EriC^^, Sine 1:00 pm we have seeing this o and I saw it two days before
[01:00] <EriC^^> texla: try the sudo sed command above, then sudo update-grub
[01:00] <Guy1524> I have extensively searched google for an answer to this, and have asked on r/arma, to no avail so this is my last resort, I am trying to run a dedicated Arma 2 OA server on Ubuntu 16.04, I have successully installed it however when I run the server I get a segfault in glibc
[01:00] <texla> EriC^^, ray@ray-Kudu-Pro:~$ sudo sed -i '/^o$/d' /etc/default/grub
[01:00] <texla> ray@ray-Kudu-Pro:~$
[01:00] <Guy1524> here is my console output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24121306/
[01:00] <EriC^^> texla: (Y)
[01:00] <EriC^^> try sudo update-grub
[01:01] <Guy1524> and here is my backtrace through gdb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24121859/
[01:02] <Guy1524> my guess is that the program relies on an older version of gdb
[01:02] <texla> EriC^^, /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 37: /etc/default/grub: ^o: not found
[01:02] <EriC^^> texla: cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[01:02] <EriC^^> let's see what it has now
[01:03] <barkingvenice> dopamin drink... - is this kosher?
[01:03] <KalEl> is it safe to remove the ~/Desktop directory?
[01:03] <KalEl> And the Pictures, Public, Template, Videos, Document, Downloads, Music directories
[01:03] <EriC^^> KalEl: i think it breaks the actual desktop somehow iirc
[01:04] <EriC^^> in unity at least
[01:05] <barkingvenice> KalEl, why not move that to another location and see if "anyone" complains? (it may break your system if critical apps: ie booting - use it)
[01:05] <KalEl> Ok thanks
[01:05] <OerHeks> Guy1524, steam? delete your Arma2OA.cfg > https://steamcommunity.com/app/33930/discussions/0/540742485358480344/
[01:05] <KalEl> I was pondering if there is any way to keep only what I need, so that it makes backup of the home directory simple
[01:06] <texla> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/bu94
[01:06] <EriC^^> KalEl: make a script to back up your files
[01:06] <KalEl> If those are empty directories I might as well keep them and avoid them.
[01:06] <Guy1524> OerHeks: this is not through steam
[01:06] <Guy1524> ill try moving it
[01:06] <KalEl> Ok
[01:07] <Guy1524> same error
[01:07] <Guy1524> i suspect it is using an older version of glibc
[01:07] <Guy1524> and the new one probably breaks it
[01:07] <Guest71907> my coworker is trolling me with the command DISPLAY=:0.0 notify-send "REBOOTING IN 5 MINUTES" making a notification pop up daily, how can i get rid of it lol?
[01:08] <Guest17802> help
[01:09] <xryuu> hello all. i'm trying to install budgie ubuntu.how can i use lvm on my 320gb hdd?
[01:09] <Guest17802> im whant
[01:10] <Guest17802> heeey
[01:10] <Guest17802> speak spanish_
[01:10] <Guest17802> ?
[01:10] <EriC^^> texla: head -n 35 /etc/default/grub | sudo tee /etc/default/grub
[01:10] <mcphail> !es | Guest17802
[01:10] <texla> EriC^^, This is file update shows now http://pastebin.com/rY7rGxGu
[01:11] <EriC^^> texla: ah ok great, disregard the last command then
[01:11] <EriC^^> texla: ok, check that the linux lite entry has a kernel   "    cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999   "
[01:14] <texla> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/u2vfGQZq
[01:15] <texla> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/gle0
[01:17] <EriC^^> texla: it's still not right, try just sudo os-prober
[01:18] <xryuu> EriC^^ should i make 2 partitions or one?
[01:18] <xryuu> for installation
[01:18] <EriC^^> texla: under the os-prober part of it, it just has linux , it should be linux /boot/vmlinuz root=.... etc
[01:18] <texla> EriC^^, /dev/sda3:Linux Lite 2.8 (14.04):Ubuntu:linux
[01:19] <EriC^^> xryuu: it's up to you, doesn't matter really
[01:20] <xryuu> ok then thank you for everything mate!
[01:20] <EriC^^> xryuu: no problem!
[01:21] <EriC^^> texla: ok, try reinstalling os-prober in case it helps, sudo apt-get install os-prober
[01:21] <EriC^^> texla: 1 sec, dont run that
[01:21] <EriC^^> texla: sudo apt-get install --reinstall os-prober grub-common
[01:21] <barkingvenice> bye
[01:25] <EriC^^> texla: os-prober is seriously off somehow, if you need to tell someone about the problem show him this paste in relation to your problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/24121975/
[01:26] <EriC^^> it's getting a little late here, i'm off to bed in a bit
[01:26] <SimpleIRC_rbWUJ> any know why in grub, setting 1920x1080 does not work but 1920*1080 does?
[01:26] <CyberCaffine> Can anyone tell me what's happening?
[01:26] <texla> EriC^^, ray@ray-Kudu-Pro:~$  sudo apt-get install --reinstall os-prober grub-common
[01:26] <SimpleIRC_rbWUJ> all documentation I can find uses X
[01:26] <texla> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:26] <texla> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:27] <SimpleIRC_rbWUJ> boot freezes without using *
[01:27] <EriC^^> texla: something about linux lite has os-prober messing up, some character in the kernel filename or something like that maybe, it's like 1 thing went wrong and the rest followed
[01:28] <CyberCaffine> @texla Wait for the resource to get free
[01:29] <EriC^^> texla: try     ps aux | grep dpkg     anything there?
[01:32] <texla> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/jgAFA96B
[01:36] <EriC^^> texla: the grub-pc installation is still running/hanging
[01:36] <EriC^^> texla: try sudo kill 11546
[01:37] <texla> EriC^^, bash: kill: (11546) - Operation not permitted
[01:38] <EriC^^> texla: use sudo
[01:39] <texla> EriC^^, ray@ray-Kudu-Pro:~$ sudo kill 11546
[01:39] <texla> [sudo] password for ray:
[01:39] <texla> ray@ray-Kudu-Pro:~$
[01:39] <EriC^^> texla: ok, try ps aux | grep dpkg
[01:41] <texla> EriC^^, ray      12217  0.0  0.0   5108   828 pts/5    S+   19:40   0:00 grep --color=auto dpkg
[01:41] <EriC^^> texla: ok, now try reinstalling grub
[01:41] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-pc grub-common os-prober
[01:42] <nubfilter> hi all. anyone know of a package that gives windows10/bing like functionality which would choose beautiful background and lock screen images that change over time?
[01:43] <xangua> nubfilter: KDE
[01:43] <texla> EriC^^, E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:43] <nubfilter> xangua: I just installed kde-desktop today
[01:43] <nubfilter> currently looking at a black background for some reason
[01:44] <nubfilter> just switched to sddm from gdm, will reboot and see what happens
[01:44] <EriC^^> texla: run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:46] <texla> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/yTjfcjXg
[01:47] <EriC^^> texla: ok, run a quick sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub-common os-prober
[01:47] <EriC^^> as a sanity check for the files it uses to make the cfg
[01:48] <EriC^^> then type "   set -x  "  and then run sudo update-grub
[01:52] <texla> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/LL4sXGys
[01:53] <xheart> hi everyone
[01:54] <xheart> i am trying to connect to my wifi but it only connects via cable
[01:54] <xheart> i entered the password for the router but it is not accepting
[01:54] <xheart> it does see the wireless connection but it does not connect wifi
[01:54] <xheart> this is ubuntu 16.04lts
[01:55] <Auprivave> xheart, broadcomm?
[01:55] <frontendnewb> my friend from wordpress channel said I could be enlightened on how to set up a LAMP stack or even the mamp (all-in-one) for a standard mac user in this channel, anyone point me in the right direction
[01:55] <xheart> cable wireless router
[01:56] <texla> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/733ig6H1
[01:56] <Auprivave> xheart, your card?
[01:56] <xheart> not i have the small usb adapter 802.11n
[01:57] <xheart> the computers sees the wireless
[01:57] <EriC^^> texla: did you run " set -x " ?
[01:58] <Auprivave> xheart, you could run a live usb to check if its related to ubuntu.
[01:58] <texla> EriC^^, yes it just changed to another prompt
[01:58] <EriC^^> texla: how about cheating our way out of this one?
[01:59] <CyberCaffine> I'm sorry guys, I am a noob here. Can anyone please direct?
[01:59] <EriC^^> texla: how do you feel about making a custom entry for linux lite and just disabling os-prober?
[01:59] <texla> EriC^^, great suggestion
[01:59] <OerHeks> frontendnewb, server guide is a good start https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/
[01:59] <xheart> how do i create it?
[01:59] <EriC^^> texla: ok, sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
[02:01] <texla> EriC^^, ray@ray-Kudu-Pro:~$ sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober
[02:01] <texla> [sudo] password for ray:
[02:01] <texla> ray@ray-Kudu-Pro:~$
[02:02] <texla> EriC^^, As stated before I would not have a problem with deleting liinuxlite
[02:05] <EriC^^> texla: wget -O /tmp/entry http://termbin.com/w0sd
[02:06] <EriC^^> texla: might as well leave it
[02:07] <EriC^^> texla: then "   cat /tmp/entry | sudo tee -a /etc/grub.d/40_custom   "
[02:11] <texla> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/TP2YfrR9
[02:11] <EriC^^> texla: looks good
[02:11] <EriC^^> try sudo update-grub
[02:12] <Guest20816> g]ho
[02:13] <EriC^^> texla: then "  cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999   "
[02:13] <Guest20816> hola hablan en espanol?
[02:13] <EriC^^> !es | Guest20816
[02:14] <texla> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/p9og
[02:15] <KalEl> How do I ls with all hidden files
[02:15] <KalEl> ls .* seems to have some weird side effects
[02:15] <dkg_ctc> ls -a
[02:15] <EriC^^> texla: looks good
[02:15] <KalEl> Thanks a lot dkg_ctc that worked!
[02:16] <dkg_ctc> You're welcome, KalEl.  .* will basically do an ls of everything in the current directory, including sub-directories.
[02:17] <EriC^^> texla: wb, the cfg looks good now
[02:18] <EriC^^> texla: try   "    stat /mnt/looksee/boot/vmlinuz* | nc termbin.com 9999   "  just to see if there's a bad char in the filename or not
[02:24] <texla> EriC^^, http://pastebin.com/kLiXLRAJ...stat said to use netcat
[02:25] <texla> EriC^^, It's getting late can we pick this up tomorrow evening
[02:25] <EriC^^> texla: it should work now
[02:26] <texla> EriC^^, thanks for all the help goodnight
[02:26] <EriC^^> texla: no problem, thanks you too
[02:31] <POO> Hi
[02:32] <POO> Pls help
[02:32] <POO> or it will be too late
[02:32] <Menzador> !ask
[02:32] <POO> Okay So Im curretly using Majaro Deepin.
[02:32] <POO> Is it stable than Ubuntu?
[02:33] <Menzador> POO: That's not a distro we support here. Try #manjaro .
[02:34] <POO> Also Unity freezes when I open a video in Fullscreen on chrome
[02:34] <Menzador> (Oops, didn't mean to part, there.)
[02:35] <Menzador> POO: Where did you get Unity from? You said you use Deepin desktop... and we don't support Manjaro here.
[02:36] <POO> on Ubuntu
[02:36] <POO> My deafult desktop in Ubuntu Im using Manjaro on a Live USB
[02:38] <Menzador> POO: So you need to repair your Ubuntu install?
[02:38] <Menzador> POO: Can you pastebin the output of [ lspci | grep -i video ]?
[02:46] <tatertots> Menzador: have you tried "lspci | grep -i video" on your own system?.....i think you should try  it yourself before you ask someone else to try it...i think you will find it doesn't show anything
[02:48] <basketball> IdleOne, have you seen andy recently?
[02:48] <Menzador> tatertots: Oh gosh, I seriously am mincing my commands :(
[02:49] <ctindel>    amazon-ebs: E: Package 'zip' has no installation candidate
[02:49] <ctindel> but if i try again it works ok. is it possible there's some sort of cdn/caching issue left over from the s3 outage?
[03:06] <ctindel> quit
[03:11] <kal> echo
[03:19] <underd0g> yo
[03:46] <show_> Hi All, is it possible to do a debootstrap of ubuntu 14.04.5 ? It seems I can only get 14.04 rather than  14.04.5.
[03:51] <girlSmile> Milo & Joe Rogan On "The Jews" ( https://youtu.be/ynAdW1b4ktU ) They finally get it!
[03:53] <cfhowlett> !ops | GSS6 ban requested
[03:54] <logintrouble>  i can't login with my normal user after doing ppa-purge on kubuntu backports ppa. i created a user "test" after reverting back and user "test" logs in fine
[03:54] <hima> hi there
[03:54] <logintrouble> hello
[03:54] <hima> what is the prefered ubuntu
[03:54] <hima> to install ltsp
[03:54] <cfhowlett> hima, choose one, learn it, use it.  they all work
[03:54] <logintrouble> hima: edubuntu
[03:55] <hima> some one suggested ubuntu mate
[03:56] <cfhowlett> hima, so do that.  next question, please
[03:56] <elias_a_> hima: Go to #ltsp and ask
[03:57] <elias_a_> hima: ltsp is a special case and therefore I suggest the dedicated channel. :)
[03:59] <arooni> what is the recommended file type for 14.04 server?  ext3 or ext4 ?
[03:59] <cfhowlett> ext4.  ext3 has been deprecated for ALL ubuntu for years
[04:01] <Aurorasaura> will adding a hard drive to an lvm alter any data currently on the lvm?
[04:02] <logintrouble> i broke my user after removing the kubuntu backports ppa
[04:02] <logintrouble> logging in with any DE gives a black screen and an X shaped cursor
[04:02] <kbob> that is Xorg
[04:03] <cfhowlett> logintrouble, easypeasy workaround: create a new user and sudo cp files from BROKEuser to NEWuser
[04:03] <logintrouble> will it preserve permissions and such?
[04:03] <logintrouble> i don't have the bandwidth to break steam right now
[04:04] <Aurorasaura> Also my other question is I have 1 main folder with several folders in it. I want to copy them to a few external hard drives but the one is not big enough by itself. is it possible to copy only a set amount of files? Ubuntu server bi gui
[04:04] <Aurorasaura> no gui*
[04:06] <logintrouble> cfhowlett: how can i keep my username?
[04:07] <cfhowlett> logintrouble, username will not effect steam login
[04:09] <logintrouble> i don't have enough space to cp oldhome newhome
[04:12] <Dr_Coke> nvidia drivers and my new monitor won't scale to 2550x1440
[04:12] <dkg_ctc> logintrouble, do you have enough space to gzip oldhome, delete oldhome directory, gunzip oldhome file?
[04:12] <Dr_Coke>  it scales and gives me no taskbar
[04:13] <Dr_Coke> and puts the login in a weird place
[04:13] <logintrouble> dkg_ctc no
[04:13] <logintrouble> is it possible to delete dotfiles until i can log in?
[04:13] <cfhowlett> logintrouble, inadvisable!
[04:14] <logintrouble> why?
[04:14] <cfhowlett> fix what went wrong before you begin deleting random files
[04:15] <logintrouble> i'm not sure exactly what went wrong
[04:15] <cfhowlett> then you definitely should not be deleting potentially necessary files, right?
[04:15] <logintrouble> i installed the kubuntu backports ppa. couldn't log in. removed the ppa with ppa-purge, then did apt update && apt upgrade. rebooted, couldn't log in. created new user
[04:16] <logintrouble> i don't have enough spavce to copy my entire ~/
[04:17] <logintrouble> and the desired outcome is i can log in, even if i nuke all my settings in the process, i can set them back.
[04:19] <logintrouble> i'm not exactly sure what to do to fix my user.
[04:19] <cfhowlett> logintrouble, quote  "On all my systems (all had the same problem) the solution was:    Switch to console using Ctrl+Alt+F1    Login to text console (your username is enough if your system only has one user. otherwise you will need root user or sudo)    rm /home/*/.Xauthority    reboot"
[04:30] <KalEl> Hi... I am not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I have xubuntu running on a VirtualBox. I am only interested in the terminal. Can I expose it somehow to the host OS so I can SSH into it, and perhaps even disable the GUI?
[04:30] <cfhowlett> KalEl, ssh from your host to the ubuntu guest
[04:30] <anirbaan> Bashing-om It worked, I just repeated the whole system shift process in legacy mode
[04:31] <cfhowlett> as far as disabling the gui, easiest way is to set the grub configuration to boot into text, but cleaner to install ubuntu-server with no extras
[04:31] <Bashing-om> anirbaan: I had confidence :)
[04:31] <anirbaan> Bashing-om: ha ha ha
[04:33] <Guy1524> ffs, I log into steam through wine to run a windows game
[04:33] <KalEl> cfhowlett, is the guest IP accessible to the host?
[04:34] <Guy1524> and a hardware survey comes up
[04:34] <cfhowlett> KalEl, if you have the vbox network settings configured correctly, yes.  best to ask #vbox or google
[04:40] <lerner> i need to see bpg files. Do I need libraries or a specific imageviewer?
[04:41] <cfhowlett> lerner, bpg?
[04:41] <lerner> yes, thats the format
[04:41] <cfhowlett> from what program?
[04:42] <th_> anyone get color emojis working on chrome?
[04:44] <th_> tried google noto color emoji but theres some kind of spacing issue and all numbers turn into emojis
[04:44] <lerner> from none progran, it is  a file
[04:47] <cfhowlett> lerner, google it up: bpg file view linux
[04:50] <lerner> does 'extract' work from the shell? it is a tar.gz file I want to make and install
[04:50] <opsu> good evening everyone!
[04:51] <opsu> @lerner man extract should give you the proper guidelines
[04:52] <opsu> anyone awake?
[04:53] <lerner> ok. Question: If I create a directory and extract a tar.gz there, does the tar.gz create the directory in a standard directory (like /etc/fgfs) or only in the directory I created?
[04:54] <JFox762> is there a keyboard shortcut to switch sound sinks?
[04:54] <Ben64> lerner: whatever is in the file gets extracted
[04:54] <Ben64> lerner: what are you trying to install? compiling should be the last resort
[04:55] <lerner> Ben64, but ./configure, make and make install install the program in the proper directory and not in the extraction directory, correct? and Im compiling because it is apparently the only way. but please stick to this question
[04:55] <lerner> JFox762, function keys , on my keyboard fn+f5
[04:55] <Ben64> lerner: it probably isn't the only way, and ./configure, make, and make install have nothing to do with extracting a file
[04:56] <JFox762> ahh ok
[04:56] <opsuSEC> apt-install unzip, apt-unzip from directory should handle it
[04:56] <lerner> even so id like to understand this
[04:56] <Ben64> lerner: the more you explain, the better
[04:57] <opsuSEC> log preferred
[04:59] <JFox762> fn key? I'm tanlking about a desktop PC here
[04:59] <JFox762> My razer blackwidow *DOES* have an FN key... but it isn't anything like a laptop FN key
[05:00] <doctor88> can someone give me a hand..i got one of my wifi adaptors stuck in monitor mode and was hoping someone could help me get it back to normal?
[05:02] <opsuSEC> doc
[05:03] <doctor88> yea
[05:03] <doctor88> i do
[05:03] <doctor88> sorry cant login
[05:25] <KalEl> I pinged 192.168.56.1, which is my XUbuntu (I think), and I got a ping. Is there any way to know for sure? Any way I can see a log in the xubuntu or send back a 'Hi there' message from linux?
[05:25] <opsu> that's your gateway more than likely, Kal. lol
[05:25] <cuckoo> hey
[05:25] <opsu> hola, kuck.
[05:25] <KalEl> Oh what does that mean
[05:25] <cfhowlett> KalEl, great question!  there's got to be a log entry that would show a response, but I don't know where to look.
[05:25] <KalEl> The ping is actually not from xubuntu?
[05:26] <cuckoo> there is no /etc/group is it a problem?
[05:26] <opsu> depends, cuckoo, are you running at-risk PCI data or anything?
[05:27] <opsu> sudo mkdir from cd
[05:27] <opsu> problem solved
[05:27] <cuckoo> i am on ubuntu 16.04 LTS.
[05:27] <opsu> cd /etc/group
[05:27] <opsu> if it doesn't exist
[05:28] <opsu> cd /etc/
[05:28] <cfhowlett> opsu, do you need it for some reason??
[05:28] <KalEl> I am not sure if you can cd into /etc/group, isn't it a file
[05:28] <opsu> need what?
[05:28] <KalEl> you could vi /etc/group
[05:29] <opsu> i was going to suggest a wipe instead of him sudoing the filesystem, lvm can be tricky to a beginner
[05:29] <KalEl> Can I use something slightly more sophisticated than ping instead, that can send back a message? I don't know what though
[05:30] <cuckoo> KalEl, thankx
[05:30] <KalEl> I.e. to know that the IP is indeed connecting to the Ubuntu guest machine inside Virtualbox
[05:30] <cfhowlett> KalEl, ssh to the guest and do an ls or something
[05:31] <KalEl> Much flattered that I am, I suppose your gratitude is misplaced since I didn't really answer you cuckoo. Perhaps someone else did, and I must apologize but I can't in right conscience accept the appreciation for someone else's effort
[05:31] <opsu> kalEl, netstat -i
[05:32] <KalEl> SSH says access denied
[05:33] <KalEl> Does that mean it's working? A random IP shouldn't say access denied, right?
[05:33] <opsu> did you ping .1?
[05:33] <KalEl> Also, if it is working, is there anything I need to do to really enable ssh
[05:33] <cuckoo> KalEl, u said its not a file
[05:33] <opsu> that's more than likely the gateway to your initial connection, not the virtual machine.
[05:34] <cuckoo> and itsnt a folder its a file so i cant cd into it i can vi into it :)
[05:34] <KalEl> Oh right... you are very welcome in that case!
[05:34] <opsu> but you can mkdir then chmod
[05:34] <anirbaan> Guy1524: steam is available for linux, you better run that :)
[05:34] <opsu> just delete system 32 bro
[05:34] <cfhowlett> opsu, WHAT???
[05:35] <cfhowlett> !danger | opsu
[05:35] <doctor88> lolz
[05:36] <cuckoo> hey have someone used vmware in ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[05:36] <cuckoo> i am not getting vmrun in it :(
[05:36] <KalEl> I am very happy to be of use to someone - with my very limited knowledge - which is apparent from the fact that I am seeking counsel myself :)
[05:36] <opsu> yes cuckoo, you need to enable guest additions.
[05:36] <cuckoo> can u plz help me how?
[05:36] <opsu> man boxes
[05:37] <opsu> use fedora for virtual machines
[05:37] <opsu> :)
[05:37] <cuckoo> cant done in ubuntu?
[05:37] <cuckoo> :(
[05:37] <cfhowlett> cuckoo, be patient!
[05:37] <opsu> can it? yes.
[05:38] <opsu> oracle hasn't been very reputable recently.
[05:38] <KalEl> Does ubuntu allow ssh connections into it, from LAN, by default?
[05:38] <opsu> no, Kal UFW would normally have that port secured.
[05:39] <cuckoo> i need this path /usr/bin/vmrun for execution of cuckoo sandbox
[05:40] <opsu> what's your uid, 1000?
[05:41] <opsu> move chmod 768 to vmware after installation.
[05:42] <opsu> after you get your VMware up, I'd suggest practicing in two environments, then bridge the connections to them via ssh, this way you don't move around your filesystem too much.
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> guys, use tab nicknames for support
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> !who
[05:44] <opSUsec> my apologies; lotus.
[05:44] <opSUsec> Moving forward, how is everyone doing this evening?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | opSUsec
[05:46] <opSUsec> *360 moonwalks out the side door*
[05:49] <KalEl> If I want to use "set -o vi" always for terminal in xubuntu, where do I put the command?
[05:50] <KalEl> ~/.profile?
[05:50] <priporg> hi, how to install flash?
[05:51] <KalEl> priporg, "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[05:52] <KalEl> Before that you might need to enable the multiverse repository
[05:52] <priporg> KalEl, is that the best way?
[05:52] <gogo1> helo
[05:52] <KalEl> Sorry I don't know
[05:52] <KalEl> That's what I would do if I were to install flash
[05:54] <KalEl> And to enable multiverse, add the lines to /etc/apt/sources.list, as stated here http://askubuntu.com/questions/89096/how-do-i-enable-the-multiverse-repository
[05:54] <priporg> ok
[05:56] <priporg> KalEl, adobe flash is a security risk as it's no longer supported.
[05:56] <KalEl> Oh did the installer tell you that
[05:56] <lerner> my browser on college should by default redirect me to the log in page, correct?
[05:56] <cfhowlett> lerner, what login page are you speaking of???
[05:57] <lerner> cfhowlett, log in page from university
[05:57] <KalEl> Sorry then you might need to wait for someone else for help. By the way it is indeed dropped from all major OS'es, but I assume you know what you are doing and that you really need it.
[05:58] <priporg> KalEl, i dont know what im doing.
[05:58] <KalEl> Oh, then can I ask why you want flash?
[05:58] <raub> weird question: on my terminal screen when I cut-n-paste a line that wraps around, it is being splitted into two lines right at the width of the terminal
[05:59] <raub> Why would that be happening?
[05:59] <cfhowlett> raub, because that's what your terminal settings give you
[05:59] <raub> cfhowlett: How do I change that?
[06:00] <cfhowlett> raub, let's see: terminal > setting??
[06:00] <priporg> KalEl, some apps require flash to run
[06:01] <priporg> how to check what version of ubuntu i am running?
[06:01] <cfhowlett> priporg, terminal: lsb_release -d
[06:01] <KalEl> priporg, if you _really_ need those apps, then it is reasonable to install flash. Do bear in mind that flash may introduce vulnerabilities in your system, which malicious hackers can take advantage of. (Ideally those apps should have been updated.)
[06:02] <raub> priporg: if do not have lsb_release, there are other ways
[06:02] <raub> cfhowlett: interesting since one of the terminal programs I have not updated in months
[06:03] <cfhowlett> raub, did you get it sorted then?
[06:03] <priporg> Thanks lsb_release worked fine
[06:04] <priporg> cfhowlett, any ideas how to install pepperflash properly?
[06:05] <cfhowlett> priporg, /msg ubottu flash        for starters
[06:05] <raub> cfhowlett: nope. I will test in my old ubuntu laptop to stay on topic
[06:06] <cfhowlett> priporg, easiest way all around for flash is to install google chrome
[06:06] <cfhowlett> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/11/install-adobe-flash-ubuntu
[06:07] <priporg> cfhowlett, chrome also supports java natively?
[06:07] <cfhowlett> no idea
[06:11] <raub> cfhowlett: Tested in my 16.04 laptop using lxtermnal, which used to work fine. Now it splits the text. I do not think the problem is the temrinal program
[06:11] <cfhowlett> raub, are you copy pasting?
[06:11] <raub> cfhowlett: before I saw the same behaviour in iterm2, which since is an osx program it is off-topic
[06:11] <raub> cfhowlett: yep. And that worked fine before
[06:12] <cfhowlett> you're probably pasting an invisible <return>
[06:12] <raub> cfhowlett: :se list (I am using vim) shows no invisible return
[06:13] <raub> What I have is a variable that is broken right at the end of the line, so script thinks the first part is empty and the rest is a string
[06:14] <cfhowlett> raub, a variable?  should be bookended by 'X' or something similar.
[06:15] <raub> cfhowlett: this is a script I was working on
[06:15] <cfhowlett> understood.  perhaps ask #bash
[06:19] <alkisg> Hi, a few days ago k1l_ mentioned that `apt autoremove` is supposed to get rid of older kernels, but this doesn't happen for me in 16.04.2, any idea why? uname=4.8.0-39-generic, but I also have 4.8.0-36 installed and it doesn't get autoremoved.
[06:19] <cfhowlett> alkisg, it will retain the most recent 2 kernels
[06:20] <alkisg> cfhowlett: ah, ty, will wait for a new one then. Smart move :)
[06:24] <jimmy_> Can anyone help, having issues installing ubuntu alongside windows 10. Keeps coming up with error "alloc magic is broken" I'm using a USB stick to load it from. Ive used lots of different USB installers and I've run a RAM check and it came up with no errors
[06:25] <alkisg> jimmy_: does that error happen while you boot, and it prevents the usb stick from booting, or after installation?
[06:26] <jimmy_> alikisg_: it happens while I boot. It keeps stopping me from installing
[06:27] <alkisg> jimmy_: have you tried the dd command to create the usb stick?
[06:28] <Seven_Six_Two> did you md5 the iso
[06:30] <jimmy_> I've not tried the dd command. Will try that, yeah I md5 it
[06:35] <magkneetoe> hey guys
[06:39] <nottrollman> hello bro
[06:46] <sousousou> hi  bro
[06:51] <Vadi> The dash keeps turning off scopes I want to search in... if I want to search for a particular virtualbox vm, I have to go and turn the virtualbox scope on _every single time_. Is that intended?
[07:15] <lujin> hello
[07:24] <onkar> ping
[07:27] <elias_a_> Please ask your support question(s).
[07:31] <yy_> hello
[07:51] <memphisw> ;wc
[08:02] <seeit> aclocal
[08:03] <magkneetoe> hi
[08:03] <seeit> hi
[08:03] <magkneetoe> what are you running?
[08:03] <seeit> trying to compile 0.14 from the repository
[08:04] <magkneetoe> oh wow cool!
[08:04] <seeit> seems some env vars are not defined by default so I gotta edit some files
[08:04] <magkneetoe> oh ok. I just installed Ubuntu LTS
[08:05] <seeit> oh sorry compiling bitcoin core 0.14
[08:05] <seeit> not ubuntu
[08:05] <seeit> I'm on LTS also, great OS, we have the best OSs don't we?
[08:05] <magkneetoe> I think its great
[08:05] <magkneetoe> i dont like GNOME too much
[08:06] <magkneetoe> I have been trying to get bitcoin and a wallet
[08:06] <seeit> I might make the switch to kubuntu
[08:06] <magkneetoe> but I  am intimidated
[08:06] <magkneetoe> me too actually
[08:07] <magkneetoe> im downloading it
[08:09] <ducasse> magkneetoe: you don't need to downoad an image and reinstall, just install the kubuntu packages
[08:10] <magkneetoe> ducasse: how do i remove every instance of GNOME
[08:10] <hateball> that's not simple, nor needed unless you have a tiny disk
[08:10] <magkneetoe> i will do what that instead then
[08:11] <magkneetoe> so it wont affect the fact that i had gnome before
[08:11] <magkneetoe> it wont try to have gnome run anymore
[08:11] <ducasse> you select which desktop you want when you log in
[08:11] <magkneetoe> nice
[08:11] <magkneetoe> thanks guys
[08:12] <magkneetoe> i think i found it
[08:12] <magkneetoe> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:12] <magkneetoe> right?
[08:13] <ducasse> that should work
[08:16] <Vadi> The dash keeps turning off scopes I want to search in... if I want to search for a particular virtualbox vm, I have to go and turn the virtualbox scope on _every single time_. Is that intended?
[08:19] <hateball> magkneetoe: dunno if https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1451728 is fixed properly or not
[08:19] <hateball> that's a showstopper you might run into
[08:23] <magkneetoe> hateball: i will let u know.
[08:23] <seeit> hateball: does a fresh install of kubuntu work?
[08:23] <seeit> don't do it from apt-get
[08:23] <seeit> its broken
[08:23] <seeit> just found that our
[08:23] <seeit> out
[08:23] <magkneetoe> I downloaded the aptget and the ISO
[08:23] <hateball> seeit: Yes, fresh install works just fine
[08:24] <magkneetoe> thanks guys
[08:24] <hateball> And installing with apt works as well, if you remove a package prior to installing kubuntu-desktop, as detailed in the bug report
[08:32] <ughthisisannoyin> I'm having trouble with keyboards lately. After upgrading/installing 16.04 my keyboard input stops for a few seconds, misses a few keypresses and then starts working normally again. This is happening on wired and wireless keyboards on a custom tower PC and also a stock Toshiba laptop with built in keyboard. Any ideas?
[08:41] <vlt> Hello. When I use LibreOffice's File->Send as Mail function a new mail in thunderbird is composed but it's empty and without an attached document. Any idea why?  (Ubuntu 16.04)
[08:49] <jink> Ubuntu 16.10 / QEMU VPS: I bound my postfix to specific IPs (both ipv4 and ipv6) and it fails to start during boot, because the interfaces aren't ready, yet.  ("no local interface found for ...")  What should I do?
[08:50] <nzoueidi> vlt: the problem may be from LibreOffice as it can be from Thunderbird, in the two ways asking in #libreoffice or #thunderbird would be better
[08:54] <nzoueidi> jink: when you do /sbin/ifconfig lo in the guest system what you got?
[09:04] <vlt> nzoueidi: Thank you.
[09:07] <jink> nzoueidi: http://apaste.info/l7DhC
[09:08] <daniel_cristea> bau
[09:14] <tfrutuoso> Morning, people!
[09:16] <tfrutuoso> Anyone using a Kaby Lake laptop?
[09:16] <tfrutuoso> I don't think Ubuntu supports this quite well.
[09:16] <tfrutuoso> Got kernel panic...
[09:18] <tfrutuoso> You guys aren't talkative. I'll come back later :) Cheers.
[09:19] <donttrustem> I am running 16.04 but cannot find out why my cronjob is not running.    I can run the script from the cli but they cronjob does not seem to run.  1 * * * * root /usr/bin/php /var/www/support/api/cron.php
[09:20] <donttrustem> I have tailed the syslog but no entries for cron
[09:22] <rtbt> I've been having a fuzzy/pixelated screen for a week.
[09:22] <rtbt> No idea how to fix this
[09:27] <rtbt> Im running 16.10, nvidia geforce 710m attempted to install all proprietary drivers, even added graphics project teams drivers
[09:27] <rtbt> Nothing
[09:27] <rtbt> It's driving me nuts
[09:28] <rtbt> Does anyone have any experience with nvidia graphics cards and pixelated displays?
[09:29] <jink> rtbt: I have no idea, but my guess would be that the monitor and graphics card resolutions don't match.
[09:30] <rtbt> It's an all in one pc :/
[09:33] <jink> rtbt: And you can't choose the resolution?  Usually, you can select 640x480, etc?
[09:37] <rtbt> Jink: i set it to that resolution with xrandr
[09:37] <rtbt> jink: it still is blurry, not as much, but my native res is 1920x1080
[09:38] <jink> And when you set it to that, it's still blurry?
[09:39] <rtbt> Yep
[09:40] <jink> :/
[09:40] <jink> Are you sure about the native resolution?
[09:40] <rtbt> As certain as i can be
[09:41] <mantise> can anyone tell me if i can do an apt-get install canon mg5150 ? or i have to go to the producent and download the tar files ?
[09:42] <mantise> or how i find the drivers for apg-get
[09:42] <rtbt> Mantise: do you have the repository?
[09:43] <mantise> nop cant see in my software and updates :)
[09:46] <mantise> rtbt: found a guide where i should sudo apt-get install gdebi, and install
[09:47] <rtbt> Mantise: what version of linux are you running
[09:47] <mantise> rtbt: ubuntu gnome 16.10 :)
[09:47] <rtbt> It may not work for the newer version
[09:47] <rtbt> The ppa i have here
[09:50] <mantise> rtbt: well i found the Linux IJ Printer Driver, fron canon's website
[09:50] <mantise> Linux IJ Scan Driver_mg5100.tar
[09:51] <RRG> Can i run activex in firefox on Ubuntu
[09:53] <mantise> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:inameiname/stable  ?
[09:53] <rtbt> It might work
[09:53] <rtbt> Otherwise you can install the tar.gz file
[09:54] <rtbt> Sorry tar
[09:55] <mantise> rtbt: if i do the repository, it says i should get synaptic package manager aswell
[09:56] <mantise> aw
[10:03] <mantise> how do i remove this again ? sudo add-apt-repository ppa:inameiname/stable
[10:04] <mahakal> Guys mysqld on 16.05 is consuming lots of resources.What is the soloution apart from removing this package?
[10:07] <u_u> @mahakal: you like men?
[10:07] <mahakal> u_u: come to the point
[10:08] <u_u> :)fight!
[10:09] <mahakal> :)then God saves you :)
[10:09] <u_u> :):):)
[10:11] <mantise> can anyone help me to install Linux IJ Print Driver_mg5100.tar ? i need to do it from terminal ?
[10:11] <buzzt3d> Hi all, I am trying to update on Ubuntu/LXDE 16.10 to the NZ archives but getting errors. Is there an issue?
[10:11] <ducasse> mantise: there should be install instructions where you got it
[10:12] <mantise> ducasse: there isnt. its on canon's website. so support for linux
[10:12] <ducasse> buzzt3d: paste the errors on paste.ubuntu.com and post the link here
[10:12] <mantise> they have for windows and mac
[10:13] <buzzt3d> K
[10:13] <ducasse> mantise: then unpack the archive and look for instructions there, normally a file called readme or install
[10:14] <mantise> ducasse: will try. just unpack from desktop is fine right ? :D im not a shark with the untar / terminal
[10:14] <buzzt3d> ducasse: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24123919/
[10:14] <ducasse> mantise: just right click -> unpack
[10:14] <mantise> ducasse: thanks
[10:15] <ducasse> buzzt3d: i'd think there is just a temporary problem with that mirror, so try another or wait a few hours.
[10:16] <buzzt3d> Ah right, of course there is 8-)
[10:16] <buzzt3d> ducasse: Thanks.
[10:17] <ducasse> buzzt3d: this happens from time to time, not much to worry about :)
[10:17] <buzzt3d> OK, j'ne suis pas freaking out 8-)
[10:18] <ducasse> tres bon :)
[10:22] <buzzt3d> ducasse: Vous etes Francaise?
[10:46] <koleygr> Hi
[10:48] <koleygr> I have a friend that sometimes his ubuntu starts without unity and taskbar. I told him to use this link to solve the problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/17381/unity-doesnt-load-no-launcher-no-dash-appears but after 20 days he has the same problem again. His syslog is here: http://pastebin.com/JSEDiPxu
[10:50] <cuckoo> hey i am using virtualbox xp inside it its ip is 10. something but on terminal i am seeing virbro has 192. something?
[10:50] <cuckoo> its stranger isnt it?
[10:50] <ikevin> koleygr, tell him to take a look in ~/.xsession_errors
[10:51] <ikevin> cuckoo, it depend of network settings in vb
[10:51] <cuckoo> so wat i need to do fr keeping it in that range i mean 192. something
[10:52] <koleygr> thank you ikevin ... I will ask him to do it and come back if not find a solution
[10:52] <ikevin> cuckoo, configure network as bridge and not as nat
[10:52] <cuckoo> ohh thankx i will check once :)
[10:59] <jSmP> jsmp
[11:00] <cuckoo> ikevin, i configured network as attached to bridged and name = eth0 still its showing 10. something
[11:01] <ikevin> cuckoo, your xp guest is using dhcp?
[11:02] <cuckoo> i dont know :(
[11:02] <cuckoo> how to check it?
[11:02] <ikevin> check on windows network settings
[11:04] <cuckoo> where exactly in internet properties?
[11:05] <ikevin> cuckoo, in connection details
[11:10] <cuckoo> ikevin, i ma not able to find it can u guide me :(
[11:11] <cuckoo> i went to control panel and then network connections
[11:11] <mantise> can i just click the cnijfilter-mg5100series_3.40-1_amd64.deb file to install in ubuntu or do i need a terminal command ?
[11:12] <mantise> because open with software install doesnt work
[11:17] <EriC^^> if you had a partition you absolutely did not want mounted, is there a command to forbid that/allow it later easily?
[11:17] <EriC^^> reason i'm asking is i'm mounting the disk from virtualbox as a raw disk image and i guess if linux mounts and writes to it at the same time, bad things can happen?
[11:29] <krstjns> Hello, would this be a good place to ask how to deal with library issues when compiling a project on ubuntu?
[11:38] <octopeg> hello. I am trying to upgrade Qt from 5.5 to 5.7, but I am having difficulties with software not looking at the right installation. to install 5.7 I did wget http://download.qt.io/official_releases/qt/5.7/5.7.0/qt-opensource-linux-x64-5.7.0.run and chmod +x qt-opensource-linux-x64-5.7.0.run and sudo ./qt-opensource-linux-x64-5.7.0.run
[11:39] <octopeg> I tried to change the default Qt paths in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qtchooser/default.conf, but the program I am running seems to still look in the wrong place.
[11:40] <octopeg> that is, it looks for libQt5Core.so.5 and similar files in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ and not in /opt/Qt5.7.0/5.7/gcc_64/lib where they seem to have been installed to.
[11:41] <octopeg> qtchooser -print-env gives me the right new paths, so I am not sure why the program looks in a different directory (it may be hardcoded to look there?)
[12:01] <wtfubuntu> Hi guys, how is it possible that my Ubuntu can't create an AP but I can do it in Windows on the same computer using Connectify??
[12:03] <hateball> wtfubuntu: are you trying to set up your machine to act as a wifi router?
[12:03] <wtfubuntu> hateball: Yep
[12:04] <hateball> wtfubuntu: that's built in functionality
[12:04] <octopeg> hateball
[12:04] <hateball> wtfubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-adhoc.html
[12:04] <octopeg> please help
[12:04] <hateball> octopeg: I don't know, and you're doing things outside the scope of support here, eg not using distro packages
[12:04] <wtfubuntu> hateball: Thank you, but I'm not sure I'm doing that right, cause that doesn't show up on my wifi list
[12:05] <octopeg> hateball: Qt is a distro package.
[12:05] <hateball> octopeg: Yes, but not 5.7
[12:06] <octopeg> that is accurate.
[12:06] <hateball> octopeg: You'll most likely have better help in #qt for that
[12:06] <octopeg> oh, I had no idea there's such a channel.
[12:06] <octopeg> thanks for the tip.
[12:06] <hateball> !alis | octopeg
[12:07] <wtfubuntu> hateball: Essentially, I'm trying to make a Wifi hotspot from the LAN connection on my computer so my Android can connect to it
[12:07] <hateball> wtfubuntu: and that *should* work out of the box. Do you have any other devices around to scan with?
[12:08] <wtfubuntu> wtfubuntu: Yes, and the other Android didn't pick it up either :(
[12:08] <wtfubuntu> The "Wireless Hotspot" is now on
[12:08] <wtfubuntu> But nothing picks it up
[12:08] <hateball> wtfubuntu: you can run "journalctl -u NetworkManager" to check NetworkManager logs, if there's something going wrong
[12:09] <hateball> wtfubuntu: and you're on 16.04 ?
[12:10] <wtfubuntu> hateball: Yep
[12:10] <hateball> wtfubuntu: ah, a little google shows that android cant connect to adhoc networks
[12:10] <wtfubuntu> hateball: I got the logs but not sure what I should look for
[12:10] <wtfubuntu> hateball: Wow that's stupid. I can do it from Windows :/
[12:10] <hateball> so it needs to be setup in AP mode
[12:10] <hateball> wtfubuntu: the software you used in windows probably did that for you
[12:11] <wtfubuntu> hateball: I did try setting it up in AP mode, but it doesn't support master mode
[12:12] <hateball> Hmmm, been ages since I fiddled with this and I dont have stuff here to test atm. But it should be fixable
[12:13] <wtfubuntu> hateball: Thanks it's ok. It just seems like there are so many hurdles in ubuntu for me, it doesn't seem worth it event though Windows is crap
[12:13] <hateball> wtfubuntu: well stick around, someone else might know :)
[12:13] <ikevin> cuckoo, you'r using ubuntu as host and xp as guest?
[12:14] <wtfubuntu> hateball: Thanks
[12:24] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:25] <xc_> hi
[12:39] <Lalic> hello
[12:40] <help_please> hey, i got a problem with my newly installed 16.04 and apt. can i get help here?
[12:41] <Mathisen> help_please, ask your question, dont ask to ask
[12:42] <derGauner> #pulsedmedia
[12:45] <help_please> fresh installed 16.04 lubuntu. i have a working connection and everything runs fine except for apt-get. it's not the appstream thing and i also disabled ipv6. still the same problem. when i run apt-get update the first few lists get read quickly but then it gets stuck and wont continue
[12:46] <ikevin> help_please, on which repo?
[12:47] <ikevin> help_please, can you pastebin the result of an apt-get update
[12:47] <help_please> alright
[12:48] <help_please> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24124581/
[12:48] <help_please> it just gets stuck
[12:49] <deldate> i can't update, you know the problem ?
[12:50] <ikevin> help_please, are you using some proxy or firewall? if you wait for timeout, what does apt say?
[12:51] <help_please> i never sat it out. let it run for a couple hours once. no proxy and no firewall. i had a 14.04 beforehand on the same machine and its updates ran just fine
[12:51] <deldate> no, i don't use a proxy ,i forget a txt about update
[12:56] <Random_Is_Random> So, I have a CSV file
[12:56] <Random_Is_Random> I want to read the file line by line
[12:56] <Random_Is_Random> and use each field as an argument for a piped command
[12:56] <Random_Is_Random> how do I do that?
[12:57] <Random_Is_Random> like "for line in $(cat csv); do script #firstargument -r #secondargument -c #thirdargument"
[12:57] <Random_Is_Random> any ideas?
[12:59] <ikevin> Random_Is_Random, the code you give don't work?
[12:59] <n4no`> Random_Is_Random: Please see thread in forums here - http://bfy.tw/ASlM
[13:00] <EriC^> !behepful | n4no`
[13:00] <EriC^> !behelpful | n4no`
[13:01] <deldate> what do you think, linux mint or ubuntu ??
[13:01] <ikonia> whatever you like
[13:01] <n4no`> If I was joking, I would've posted a link to a meme.
[13:02] <ikonia> n4no`: then be more helpful
[13:02] <EriC^> !google | n4no`
[13:02] <n4no`> That wasn't google that was a link to Ubuntu Forums.
[13:03] <EriC^> Random_Is_Random: try asking in ##linux too
[13:03] <deldate> can i use dual boot, Mint + ubuntu ?
[13:03] <ikevin> deldate, yes you can
[13:04] <ikevin> deldate, so you will lost storage space for nothing, mint is ubuntu based
[13:04] <ikevin> deldate, you can simply install cinnamon or mate and select them on the logon screen
[13:04] <deldate> ikevin , ok thanks i will try
[13:06] <deldate> i use cinnamon, but i can change theme to mate
[13:06] <ikevin> deldate, mate is a DE not a theme
[13:07] <deldate> oh sorry, yes that i mean, hehe : )
[13:08] <deldate> ikevin, are u use a cinnamon
[13:08] <ikevin> deldate, yep, i'm a mint cinnaomon user
[13:09] <deldate> ikevin, same, i use cinnamon
[13:10] <ikevin> deldate, cinnamon is a simple and quite light DE
[13:11] <deldate> ikevin, yes you alright
[13:12] <Clint0n> Hi all, getting a persistent 'Permission Denied' when trying to perform a mysqldump command on my ubuntu server ? I 100% have permissions to write to the directory (users home dir), and am using the root mysql account. Any ideas?
[13:12] <Clint0n> Tried with and without sudo
[13:13] <ikevin> Clint0n, read only FS?
[13:13] <ikevin> Clint0n, permission denied come from mysql or linux?
[13:13] <Clint0n> Is there a way for me to check that? I don't think so though as Ive created a zip file absolutely fine?
[13:13] <Clint0n> Linux
[13:13] <Clint0n> -bash: /home/mike/fdmagento.sql: Permission denied
[13:14] <ikevin> can you pastebin the command/script you use?
[13:14] <ikevin> (just hide login/password/host)
[13:14] <Clint0n> mysqldump -u root -p fdmagento > /home/mike/fdmagento.sql
[13:14] <Clint0n> I've also tried --user=root
[13:14] <Clint0n> etc
[13:14] <deldate> ikevin, i use a mint and ubuntu in 2 pc, but mint cinnamon its awesome for me : )
[13:15] <Clint0n> Not even getting a password prompt with that command, just that permission denied line. And when I pass the password to the command I get the same permission denied
[13:15] <ikevin> Clint0n, without "> /home..." does it show you the sql code?
[13:15] <cuckoo> hey
[13:15] <cuckoo> no snapshot opetion in vmware player options
[13:15] <FrogCast> Can I decrease my ext4 partition and expand my swap partition while logged on? I need more memory, because ubuntu keeps freezing on me.
[13:15] <cuckoo> FrogCast, yes
[13:15] <EriC^> FrogCast: no
[13:16] <Clint0n> ikevin, I get a password prompt when I run just mysqldump -u root -p fdmagento
[13:16] <FrogCast> o_O
[13:16] <EriC^> scratch that, hell no
[13:16] <EriC^> FrogCast: make a swap file if you need swap so badly while logged on
[13:16] <cuckoo> yes you can with another bootable pendrive
[13:16] <ikevin> Clint0n, replace -p by "--password=your_password"
[13:16] <FrogCast> cuckoo, yeah so I have to log off. :/
[13:16] <cuckoo> yes
[13:17] <deldate> cuckoo, u use a live cd ?
[13:17] <FrogCast> EriC^, a swap file?
[13:17] <Clint0n> ikevin, That works and spams my terminal window out with SQL data
[13:17] <EriC^> FrogCast: yes, it's the same as a swap partition
[13:17] <cuckoo> u cant decease beacause its alreay running some files from them . so u need to logged off.
[13:17] <cuckoo> i have done it yesterday only :)
[13:17] <FrogCast> EriC^, If I already have a swap partition, will creating a swap file make my computer use both?
[13:17] <ikevin> Clint0n, ok, now append "> /home/..." to the same command :)
[13:18] <cuckoo> deldate, no i used bootable pendrive
[13:18] <EriC^> FrogCast: yeah
[13:18] <cuckoo> just have iso of ubuntu
[13:18] <FrogCast> EriC^, cool. Google is my friend I guess?
[13:18] <Clint0n> ikevin, back to permission denied
[13:18] <deldate> cuckoo  hmm ok
[13:19] <ikevin> Clint0n, does "touch /home/mike/fdmagento.sql" return an error?
[13:19] <Clint0n> Just noticed some bizarre permissions ikevin - let me try changing them
[13:19] <EriC^> FrogCast: fallocate -l 4G /tmp/swapfile; mkswap /tmp/swapfile; swapon /tmp/swapfile
[13:19] <FrogCast> EriC^, thanks
[13:20] <EriC^> FrogCast: no problem
[13:20] <cuckoo> anyone working in vmplayer in ubuntu?
[13:20] <Clint0n> ikevin, Phew changing those permissions has fixed it, it looks like someone changed the permissions on the users home directory. Thanks for your help
[13:20] <ikevin> Clint0n, you welcome
[13:20] <FrogCast> EriC^, failed. Do I need sudo?
[13:20] <EriC^> FrogCast: yes
[13:20] <EriC^> also change the size to your needs
[13:20] <help_please> i now disabled ipv6 - still super slow apt update
[13:21] <deldate> no, i not running ubuntu in vmware
[13:21] <ikevin> help_please, speed depend of your bandwith and remote server bandwith
[13:21] <FrogCast> EriC^, failed http://paste.ubuntu.com/24124690/
[13:22] <EriC^> FrogCast: you need sudo for each command
[13:22] <FrogCast> ah
[13:22] <help_please> ikevin, yea, but im just getting like 500 B/s
[13:22] <EriC^> FrogCast: well not really, just the last one
[13:22] <FrogCast> EriC^, lol worked. Didn't notice the semicolons
[13:23] <ikevin> help_please, it's sometime normal
[13:23] <deldate> help please, if i finish upgrade, need to reboot or not ?
[13:23] <ikevin> deldate, it depend of the upgrade
[13:23] <EriC^> FrogCast: swapon -s shows the swaps in use
[13:24] <ikevin> deldate, but reboot is never obligated (just recommanded)
[13:24] <EriC^> FrogCast: and swapoff /tmp/swapfile to turn it off
[13:24] <deldate> oh, thanks ikevin
[13:24] <ikevin> deldate, reboot is needed only for kernel upgrade
[13:25] <FrogCast> EriC^, thanks. When I reboot will I have to redo it?
[13:25] <EriC^> FrogCast: yeah, unless you make the swapfile somewhere permanent and add it to /etc/fstab
[13:25] <FrogCast> !cookie | EriC^
[13:26] <help_please> alright, another thing i noticed is that there is an ipv6 address when i run ifconfig although i disabled it via /etc/sysctl.conf.
[13:26] <EriC^> FrogCast: thanks, if it's a multi user system or something change the permissions too as it said, 0600 and root the owner
[13:26] <help_please> after a reboot, i mean
[13:26] <deldate> ikevin, i need to reboot manual ? or like a windows reboot self
[13:26] <ikevin> help_please, you get the local link?
[13:26] <ikevin> deldate, manualy
[13:27] <help_please> ikevin, what do you mean?
[13:27] <ikevin> help_please, an ipv6 that start by fe80?
[13:28] <help_please> ikevin,  inet6 addr: fe80::c583:c36d:7abf:7f1b/64 Scope:Link
[13:29] <ikevin> help_please, this is normal
[13:29] <deldate> ikevin, oh thanks man
[13:29] <help_please> ikevin, oh, okay. if i run sysctl -p the ip disappears tho, its just not persistent after a restart
[13:31] <deldate> if i use a proxy, can update my linux ?
[13:32] <ikevin> deldate, if your proxy allow them, yes
[13:32] <ikevin> deldate, just need to configure apt to use proxy
[13:32] <deldate> ikevin, secure ???
[13:33] <ikevin> deldate, ?
[13:34] <deldate> ikevin, if i allow update on proxy, that secure connection or ??
[13:34] <mrx_> hello
[13:35] <ikevin> deldate, update are safe if you use official repo, so proxy is not more secure than direct connection
[13:37] <deldate> ikevin, hmmm oke thanks ikevin
[13:51] <craptalk> i got amd gpu and i always failed to resume from hibernation, has anyone ever experienced this kind of problem?
[13:51] <craptalk> is it bug or something? i have been searching for this solution but always a dead-end
[13:54] <craptalk> this is my system info http://termbin.com/r168
[13:54] <leprechaun> Hi all! I wonder if someone could provide me with a good tutorial on how to use hexchat via tor in ubuntu 16.04?
[13:55] <OerHeks> craptalk, there is a debug wiki,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelHibernate
[13:56] <craptalk> OerHeks: have you ever experienced this kind of problem?
[13:57] <OerHeks> seen a lot of people here with sleep/hybernate issues, network not comming up, but i have no such issues, good hardware :-)
[14:00] <craptalk> OerHeks: i started to hate my hardware, make my time thinking about something else
[14:00] <craptalk> i just bought a brand new laptop, and it started happening. damn stupid
[14:04] <cuckoo> join #cuckoosandbox
[14:04] <Mercury> Hi, in ubuntu kickstart how can i define predownloaded packages ?
[14:07] <help_please> hey, how do i select the fastest mirrors for my apt-get updates ?
[14:08] <Mercury> help_please: use apt-fast using aria2 instead of apt-get
[14:08] <ikonia> help_please: which are normally the fastest
[14:08] <ikonia> help_please: it should work out the closest to you
[14:08] <Mercury> help_please: ikonia is correct, ahead of it apt-fast provides you download over multiple connections
[14:09] <Mercury> nothing more
[14:10] <ikonia> you'll find most mirrors are pretty much the same speed anyway due to the minimum requirements of being a mirror
[14:10] <Mercury>  in ubuntu kickstart how can i define predownloaded packages for installation ?
[14:10] <help_please> oh, alright. thank you for that. i  struggle with super slow updates. like one update takes about 20 minutes
[14:11] <ikonia> help_please: which mirror are you using
[14:11] <Mercury> help_please then apt-fast should finish it in 5 minutes
[14:11] <ikonia> help_please: it's possible your ISP may throttle you too
[14:13] <help_please> i use my local country mirror. all other downloads work fine. its just apt-get
[14:13] <ikonia> help_please: which is your local country (what's the url ?)
[14:13] <help_please> de
[14:13] <ikonia> which URL are you using,
[14:14] <help_please> ikonia:  http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[14:18] <help_please> well, i did not run a complete update since the install but is it normal that apt-get cant even locate a package?
[14:18] <help_please> E: Unable to locate package apturl
[14:19] <Pici> help_please: you need to run an apt-get update first
[14:23] <zabana> hello
[14:24] <zabana> anybody here ?
[14:25] <Pici> zabana: yes
[14:26] <zabana> ah great (sorry about that I'm currently testing irssi)
[14:26] <zabana> thanks Pici
[14:28] <zabana> Pici: thanks mate
[14:29] <zabana> sandeepkr: Hey
[14:30] <Pici> Theres #ubuntu-offtopic if you're just looking to chat, #ubuntu itself is for support only.
[14:32] <zabana> Pici: ah ok thanks, I'll check it out. cheers
[14:33] <V7> Hey
[14:33] <V7> I can't install php7.1-gd
[14:34] <V7> Can you help me ?
[14:35] <V7> Ubuntu 14.04 Server
[14:35] <ikonia> V7: whats up
[14:36] <Pici> V7: I don't see php7.1 in 14.04 at all, which would explain why you wouldn't be able to see the -gd package either.
[14:36] <ikonia> ahh 14.04 good spot
[14:36] <ikonia> my eyes said 16.04
[14:36] <V7> Really ?
[14:36] <V7> How then I've installed it ?
[14:36] <ikonia> V7: probably from a ppa
[14:36] <ikonia> thats not supported
[14:37] <V7> So ...
[14:37] <ikonia> so.... ?
[14:37] <V7> How to install php7 on Ubuntu ?
[14:37] <ikonia> on ubuntu 14.04
[14:37] <ikonia> you don't, you can only use a PPA which is not supported by this channel
[14:37] <ikonia> on 16.04 its the default php option
[14:37] <V7> Oh dear
[14:48] <semitones> Hey, I have a headless computer connected to my home network. I can see that the computer is on, but on the router page, it's listed as inactive. Are there any logs I could look at on the machine to see when it got disconnected?
[14:49] <kantlivelong> what would cause wifi to not work after fresh boot but then work after suspending then resuming? BCM4322
[14:50] <Wulf> Hello. How do I load a module on boot? I tried inserting it into /etc/modules, but it does not work.
[14:53] <moongazer> Hello, I want to install JOGL. I have installed 2.3 but I want to install 2.2 . How do I go about doing that?
[14:54] <ikonia> moongazer: how did you install it
[14:54] <moongazer> ikonia, I don't even remember. It came along with the dependencies for scilab
[14:54] <moongazer> compilation
[14:55] <ikonia> moongazer: so how you installed it matters about how you'd replace it
[14:56] <vimpulse> moongazer:  Why do you want to downgrade to 2.2?
[14:56] <vimpulse> Wulf:  Hi!  Which module do you want your kernel to load every day, and why?
[14:56] <Wulf> vimpulse: what do you mean every day?
[14:57] <Wulf> vimpulse: bbswitch
[14:57] <vimpulse> Wulf:  I meant every boot.
[14:57] <Wulf> vimpulse: why? because I want to turn off my nvidia graphics card
[14:58] <Wulf> it's causing too much heat --> noise + battery drain
[14:58]  * vimpulse reads about bbswitch
[14:58] <vimpulse> Wulf:  can you successfully load and use the module manually?
[14:59] <vimpulse> Wulf:  wait
[15:00] <vimpulse> Wulf:  "On some machines, turning off the card is permanent and the card does not reappear on subsequents reboots, which can result into the screen staying black all the time, including the BIOS screen."
[15:00] <vimpulse> Wulf:  --https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/bbswitch
[15:01] <vimpulse> Wulf:  You're supposed to make a note of a certain keystroke sequence before using bbswitch for the first time.
[15:01] <vimpulse> Wulf:  Otherwise you might brick your laptop.  I dunno if this means "temporarily brick" or "permanently brick".
[15:01] <vimpulse> Wulf:  Have you done this already?
[15:01] <Wulf> vimpulse: no, and I don't care
[15:01] <Wulf> vimpulse: the module seems to do what it's supposed to do
[15:01] <Wulf> vimpulse: I just want to load it on boot
[15:01] <vimpulse> Wulf:  Ah OK.
[15:02] <vimpulse> Wulf:  So you're able to successfully load and use it manually, and you want to load it on boot.  Correct?
[15:02] <Wulf> vimpulse: yes
[15:02]  * vimpulse reads
[15:02] <Wulf> "modprobe bbswitch load_state=0" works
[15:02] <Wulf> echo "bbswitch load_state=0" >> /etc/modprobe  does not. The line is there, but it's not loaded.
[15:03] <vimpulse> Wulf:  https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/bbswitch claims that you must have done:  sudo update-initramfs -u
[15:04] <ikonia> bumblebee is dead isn't it
[15:04] <ikonia> replaced with nvidia prime
[15:04] <vimpulse> ikonia:  dunno.  I don't use Nvidia hardware, and I dunno what bumblebee even is.
[15:04] <ikonia> hotswapping between nvidia/intel graphics manager
[15:05] <vimpulse> ikonia:  ah ok.  I'm no expert here, and you're welcome to chip in on helping Wulf.
[15:05] <vimpulse> Wulf:  Do you know what an initramfs is and what it does?
[15:06] <ikonia> no no, it' fine, nothing wrong with what you are saying, just questioning why bubmlebee would even still get installed
[15:07] <vimpulse> ikonia:  I did a Google search for [ bbswitch ].  The first hit was:  https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/bbswitch
[15:07] <vimpulse> ikonia:  That's a Git repository whose latest commit was 3 years ago, plus a Readme file.
[15:07] <ikonia> nvidia have an official project called prime that replaced it
[15:08] <vimpulse> ikonia:  ah, so you're saying that Wolf shouldn't be using bbswitch, and should be using Prime instead?
[15:08] <ikonia> that is my understanding of the current tooling, yes
[15:08] <vimpulse> ikonia:  But bbswitch seems to work fine for Wolf.  Why should he change from a working technology to something newer?
[15:08] <OerHeks> wolf might want to check the bios to disable the nvidia
[15:09] <vimpulse> Wulf:  see OerHeks's comment above
[15:09] <ikonia> vimpulse: because it's dead, unsupported and not tested/supported by distros
[15:10] <V7> What is the latest php in ubuntu 14.04 ?
[15:10] <ikonia> if you have to disable nvidia in the vios it's not working
[15:10] <ikonia> vimpulse: 5.6 I think
[15:10] <vimpulse> V7:  Did you check packages.ubuntu.com ?
[15:10] <vimpulse> ikonia:  We shouldn't do V7's homework for him/her.
[15:10] <ikonia> vimpulse: I'm not
[15:11] <V7> ...
[15:11] <V7> THank you for nothing
[15:11] <ikonia> V7: you where told where the info was and I told you the answer,
[15:11] <Pici> vimpulse: believe me, ikonia would be the last person to do that.
[15:11] <ikonia> V7: so please drop the smart mouth
[15:11] <V7> ?
[15:12] <OerHeks> 5.5.9 https://launchpad.net/php
[15:12] <V7> Thank you very much OerHeks
[15:14] <vimpulse> If someone answers a quick-reference question by doing the research for the asker, is that not spoon-feeding?
[15:14] <vimpulse> And, if so, shouldn't spoon-feeding be discouraged?
[15:15] <OerHeks> vimpulse, if you don't want to answer, then do not.
[15:16] <vimpulse> OerHeks:  I didn't answer :)
[15:16] <nicomachus> you seem to be doing a lot of answering to questions that weren't asked.
[15:16] <vimpulse> nicomachus:  what do you mean?
[15:17] <vimpulse> nicomachus:  Do you mean that I should try not to fill such a big channel with off-topic side chatter?
[15:20] <ppf> assume i have a script whose hashbang is #!/usr/bin/env interpreter
[15:20] <ppf> how can i pass environment settings into that script
[15:21] <ikonia> ppf: your script has to be setup to take arguments
[15:22] <ppf> otherwise env will eat them?
[15:22] <ikonia> or you have to have it run from your exiting shell, rather than spawn a new one
[15:23] <ppf> alright, that's an idea
[15:24] <vimpulse> ppf:  ikonia:  The question was not so clear to me.  But Wikipedia reports that env(1) doesn't normally touch the environment.  Only commands such as "env -i" will clear the environment.
[15:24] <faekjarz> Hi! Is there more to EEC memory than just having it physically installed? Does the kernel know of ECC?
[15:24] <vimpulse> faekjarz:  Dunno.  Why do you ask?
[15:25] <faekjarz> vimpulse: edu porposes
[15:27] <OerHeks> faekjarz, sounds like more an issue for ##hardware
[15:28] <vimpulse> faekjarz:  http://serverfault.com/questions/643542/how-do-i-get-notified-of-ecc-errors-in-linux
[15:29] <vimpulse> faekjarz:  You could try ##sysadmin.  But they might kick you if you don't do your research before talking there.
[15:29] <vimpulse> faekjarz:  But the research isn't that hard to do.
[15:30] <vimpulse> faekjarz:  https://www.google.com/search?q=ecc+linux
[15:30] <vimpulse> Cheers all!
[15:30] <wabbits> getting this warning running duplicity 0.6.23-1ubuntu4.1 on Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/Crypto/Cipher/blockalgo.py:141: FutureWarning: CTR mode needs counter parameter, not IV
[15:30] <wabbits>   self._cipher = factory.new(key, *args, **kwargs)
[15:31] <moongazer> Hey
[15:31] <moongazer> I need help installing an old version of jogl
[15:33] <nicomachus> !info jogl
[15:33] <mauro1> salve a tutti
[15:33] <mauro1> ciao ciao
[15:33] <mauro1> !list
[15:33] <nicomachus> !it | mauro1
[15:34] <Pici> wabbits: Warnings shouldn't prevent you from running the program.
[15:35] <wabbits> Thanks Pici I emailed the maintainer as preventative maintenance
[15:35] <Celmor> I can't install a package, errors when connecting to archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com http://pastebin.com/raw/GnBQ43AR
[15:38] <nicomachus> Celmor: do you have an internet connection?
[15:38] <Celmor> yes
[15:38] <Celmor> but I get permission errors when trying to use ping
[15:39] <Celmor> ping: icmp open socket: Permission denied
[15:39] <nicomachus> Celmor: looks like your machine is trying to use ipv6 instead of ipv4 and may be getting blocked by ufw
[15:40] <Celmor> how do I turn off ufw?
[15:40] <nicomachus> well you don't wanna do that, but you can disable ipv6 and see if that fixes it
[15:41] <Celmor> I indeed wanna do that
[15:41] <nicomachus> edit /etc/default/grub and add `ipv6.disable=1` to the line `GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=...`
[15:41] <brunch875> is it possible to add my own pictures to the ubuntu community walpapers?
[15:41] <nicomachus> then sudo update-grub
[15:41] <Celmor> I don't even know if that thing uses a boot laoder
[15:41] <Celmor> ubuntu on windows that is
[15:42] <Celmor> current kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/kernel ro
[15:42] <OerHeks> !ubuwin
[15:42] <nicomachus> oh boy
[15:42] <OerHeks> i didn't know you can install all packages on that ..
[15:43] <nicomachus> ubuntu on windows... that's a different story
[15:43] <Celmor> there's nobody in #ubuntu-on-windows
[15:43] <Celmor> I even got a a desktop running in ubuntu on windows
[15:44] <aotaointbin> i tried going that route. ended up just running windows in a vm :P
[15:46] <Celmor> doing that at home too, I can't change the OS on the pc at work though
[15:46] <Celmor> using qemu with gpu passthrough for gaming in a windows vm
[15:52] <virux_> hi all ! i came from sane channel but this project seems to be discontinued or something. can someone help me with scanner installation pls ? thanx a lot
[15:55] <adac> running "mvn test"  is it possible, before the tests are running, that I set an ENV variable trough maven somehow?
[15:55] <virux_> i got a ricoh aficio sp100su, printer part has been successfully installed with the ppd found on github, scanner part is detected in lsusb, well recognized by sane-find-scanner, but scanimage -L find nothing, xsane too
[15:57] <mithaiwala> HI!!
[15:57] <virux_> i tryed compile sane from source to the backends be updated, it changed nothing. now im searching for a way to install scanner without sane (twain / wia bridge or something)
[16:00] <ppf> adac: ENV=bla mvn test
[16:02] <adac> ppf, hm ok I see. I was just thinking one could set this inside the code if mvn test is called
[16:02] <ppf> no idea about maven. you'd have to ask them
[16:13] <adac> ppf kk thanks
[16:32] <Guest45374> Hello, Where can i find help on installing an older BCM4311 driver on Ubuntu 16.04?
[16:32] <elias_a_> Guest45374: Why do you need an older driver
[16:33] <elias_a_> Guest45374: Or want...
[16:34] <pavlos> Guest45374, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[16:35] <OerHeks> all versions run 6.30.223 .. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl else you want the old STA driver? good luck with that..
[16:41] <mangjuan007> hi guys! is the ubuntu-sdk still working? i can't seem to install it
[16:43] <OerHeks> mangjuan007, on what ubuntu version ? https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/platform/sdk/installing-the-sdk/
[16:43] <finexbeer> hi
[16:43] <finexbeer> in need help
[16:44] <mangjuan007> @OerHeks: 16.04. it says 'unable to fetch some archives. maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[16:44] <ducasse> !ask | finexbeer
[16:44] <zzero1> question on an x86_64 ubuntu 16.04 I want to enable efistub but my initrd does not contain the cryptsetup executable. During the update-initramfs I get device-mapper: table ioctl on sda2_crypt failed: No such device or address and cryptsetup: WARNING: failed to determine cipher modules to load for sda2_crypt
[16:45] <finexbeer> is the pentium p6100 good for progrmming
[16:45] <OerHeks> mangjuan007, did yhou update before installing?
[16:45] <zzero1> Any ideas ? Should I add any particular modules in the initramfs conf ?
[16:46] <zzero1> I dont have any lvm
[16:48] <mangjuan007> @OerHeks: yes, and i think i'm having problems with updating too. it says, 'Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.'
[16:52] <ducasse> mangjuan007: probably a temporary mirror problem, try another or wait.
[16:53] <mangjuan007> @ducasse: its seems like its the case. i'm just try it again later
[16:54] <semitones> hi hi! If my ubuntu machine's name is "foo" can I ping "foo" ?
[16:54] <semitones> "ping foo"
[16:55] <semitones> or do I have to ping 192.168.1.xx ?
[16:55] <ducasse> semitones: did you try?
[16:55] <semitones> yeah and it doesn't work
[16:55] <semitones> I can't ssh into it that way either
[16:55] <semitones> I am wondering if it should be possible, and if so, how to get it to work that way
[16:56] <ducasse> semitones: then you need a local dns server or host files on each machine
[16:56] <semitones> alright i'll duckduckgo a guide
[16:57] <ducasse> semitones: host files are by far the easiest
[16:57] <ducasse> semitones: just add ip and hostname to /etc/hosts
[16:58] <semitones> ducasse, do I have to do something on the router also?
[16:59] <ducasse> semitones: no, you just edit your host file on the machines you want to ssh from. there might be a way to use built-in functionality on the router instead, depends.
[17:00] <tatertots> host files are your path of least resistance/easiest....anything else and you are getting yourself into obviously "unfamiliar" waters of network administration
[17:06] <semitones> Ok here's a question -- what if I have two routers, but they're connected to each other? Can I still do the host files method
[17:06] <ducasse> semitones: the routers don't matter, host files are looked at first
[17:07] <ducasse> semitones: at least by default
[17:08] <semitones> also it seems like the device is connected via wlan0 to 192.xxx.x.xx and to eth0 as 169.xxx.xxx.xx
[17:08] <akik> semitones: the dnsmasq process on your machine reads the hosts file and serves entries from it, but you need to do this on each machine
[17:09] <semitones> hmm, so if my goal is to connect to this device via SSH and never have to check what IP its on, and also for it to stay always connected, is it best to make a hostfile on every machine in the network, or just assign a static IP?
[17:09] <ducasse> semitones: you need a static ip for hostfiles to work
[17:10] <pac1> I'm using ubuntu 16.10.  When I put the machine to sleep and then restart it, the window control icons in each window appear as fuzzy colored spots instead of complete icons.  I searched online but have yet to find anything on this.  Has anyone seen something similar?
[17:10] <mauro1> lve
[17:20] <grwoith> 9 11 attacks, Did USA do it itself or it just let it happen?Did USA administration murder 3000 American citizen in 9 11 attacks to justify starting a war against iraq?If al-qaeda did it, why go to kill 2 million Iraqi?http://creatvchaos.blogspot.com.eg/   https://creatvchaos.wordpress.com/Some of the benefits Americans say they achieved after 9 11 attacks include:*constant flow of oil, which
[17:21] <nicomachus> lovely
[17:22] <pac1> yeah, lack of evidence = proof.
[17:22] <ducasse> "i'm a crackpot, please read these links"
[17:22] <Pici> Anyway, they're gone, lets move on.
[17:23] <pac1> yup.  more substantive problems like why my window control icons are pontilistic.
[17:23] <pac1> how do I adjust unity preferences?
[17:23] <nicomachus> what do you mean by "preferences"?
[17:24] <nicomachus> There is Unity Tweak Tool and then there are System Settings
[17:24] <pac1> Unity tweak tool.... maybe that.
[17:24] <pac1> System Settings has nothing that I can see.
[17:24] <nicomachus> !info unity-tweak-tool | pac1
[17:26] <mvvvv> pac1, what is your GPU ?
[17:26] <pac1> Here's another one.  What happens to my system when booting between  13.418712] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): enp3s0: link becomes ready... and the next line in dmesg: [   98.392227] cgroup: new mount options do not match the existing superblock, will be ignored
[17:27] <nacc> pac1: IPv6 negotiation?
[17:27] <nacc> pac1: that seems like an inordinate delay, but we have as much info as you :)
[17:28] <Gurkan_love_pyth> ./join #bottlepy
[17:30] <pac1>  5.443s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
[17:30] <pac1> systemd-analyze blame
[17:31] <OerHeks> pac1,  so did you define a NSF share in your fstab or something?
[17:32] <OerHeks> or wait, 5 seconds is not unusual
[17:33] <nacc> OerHeks: NFS :)
[17:33] <nacc> pac1: yeah, NM waiting 5s is fine, that's doesn't correspond to the above lines afaict
[17:33] <nacc> pac1: which implies 85s of delay
[17:33] <OerHeks> yeah, "new mount options do not match the existing superblock"
[17:34] <pac1> syslog is filling up with IA__gtk_widget_get_visual: assertion 'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[17:35] <pac1> I'll bet that's the window icons getting trashed.
[17:57] <pac1> how do I show the superblock options?
[17:58] <charlie_sanders> I read that as superpositions pac1
[17:58] <charlie_sanders> you can't ovserve the superpositions, observing them causes them to collapse into real states
[18:01] <JuJUBee> Can someone point me to a good article on dualbooting with uefi ?  I have read 2 and one states to install windows first (what I am used to pre-uefi) and another states to install windows second (contrary to what I know.
[18:01] <Yamato> hello
[18:01] <pac1> charlie, superpositions?
[18:02] <JuJUBee> I have a lapop with windows 10 (uefi) and wish to install ubuntu 16.04
[18:06] <OerHeks> !uefi
[18:07] <nacc> pac1: the cgroup message is not an error
[18:08] <arooni> my syslog is full of       45 Mar  6 12:05:15 LilArooni gnome-session[3037]: DTSTART:20080101T0000-06:00 ;;; any idea why?
[18:09] <arooni> also; how can i find out why my kernel paniced?  dmesg / syslog seem populated only after last reboot
[18:09] <nacc> arooni: you need a serial console, generally
[18:09] <nacc> arooni: can possibly also use netconsole, if your network stack is not what panics
[18:10] <arooni> i need a modem connnection?
[18:10] <nacc> arooni: no
[18:11] <nacc> arooni: well, if by modem you mean rs232 -- then maybe :)
[18:11] <nacc> arooni: a kernel panic means the kernel is dead, it can't (generally) log that ... as the kernel is dead
[18:11] <arooni> well that seems way more advanced than i am looking for
[18:11] <arooni> i am just trying to find out why my ubuntu laptop running 4.8 kernel can't resume from suspend
[18:12] <TheAmorphous> Hey folks, I'm trying to get X11VNC running on a headless box running Xubuntu 16.04.  I'm able to connect, but I'm being limited to 1024x768 even after installing this xorg dummy driver.
[18:12] <nacc> arooni: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspend
[18:12] <enw2512> arooni: if the kernel panics, it cannot write to filesystem anymore. only console output for the backtrace is possible.
[18:12] <doug16k> when I try to apt-get install nvidia-367 I get a build error "-fstack-protector-strong not supported by compiler"
[18:12] <nacc> arooni: iirc, there are ways to 'simulate' the suspend/resume without turning off the console
[18:12] <arooni> i tried to do that sysrq + alt + keys but it didnt seem to work at all
[18:12] <TheAmorphous> I've created a 10-monitor.conf file in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d and it seems to be taking its parameters successfully.  I can see a huge diference switching from 16 to 24 depth in that file.
[18:12] <doug16k> my compiler works fine, I use it everyday
[18:12] <TheAmorphous> But setting Modes to 1920x1080 doesn't have any effect
[18:13] <nacc> doug16k: what compiler?
[18:13] <doug16k> gcc-5
[18:13] <nacc> doug16k: from Ubuntu?
[18:13] <doug16k> yes
[18:13] <doug16k> cc is symlinked to gcc-5
[18:13] <doug16k> the package says it is using cc
[18:13] <nacc> doug16k: `man gcc`, do you see an entry for -fstack-protector-strong ?
[18:14] <muffinslinger> Hi everyone, I am trying to get Ceph working on an autopilot openstack deployment however when I try to use any ceph commands I am getting "unable to find a keyring client.admin.keyring" has anyone come across this before?
[18:14] <nacc> muffinslinger: may want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[18:14] <muffinslinger> thankyou nacc
[18:14] <muffinslinger> will do
[18:14] <enw2512> arooni: console can be a the linux console (tty1 for example), serial console (ttyS0 for example) or netconsole (never used that). for serial console your machine needs a physical serial port (rs232, 9 pin connector mostly) a serial cable and another machine to connect to, which reads the serial messages.
[18:14] <swjhwjwej> guys what is the "chown" command that lets you write on a internal HDD drive?
[18:15] <doug16k> nacc: I did this, it worked: echo 'int main() {}' | cc -fstack-protector-strong -x c -
[18:15] <OerHeks> man chown
[18:15] <Jordan_U> enw2512: arooni: Unless you have a dump-capture kernel configured to be kexec'd into upon kernel panic.
[18:15] <arooni> enw2512: is tty1 what i see when i do control + alt + f1 ?
[18:15] <nacc> swjhwjwej: chwon has nothing to do with, in principle, being able to write on a HDD
[18:15] <nacc> *chown
[18:15] <nacc> arooni: yes, generally
[18:15] <enw2512> Jordan_U: never used this kexec thing. is it reliable?
[18:15] <nacc> arooni: how do you know the kernel is panicking?
[18:16] <arooni> nacc: i tried to do that when my laptop froze coming back from suspend
[18:16] <enw2512> arooni: yes
[18:16] <arooni> but nothing happened
[18:16] <doug16k> nacc, I can't be sure what nvidias build script is doing, but I am sure my cc supports -fstack-protector-strong
[18:16] <nacc> enw2512: kexec is pretty stable, yeah
[18:16] <arooni> system seemed completely unresonsive
[18:16] <swjhwjwej> nacc: last time I did a chown command and I was able to create folders, paste etc on my internal HDD
[18:16] <swjhwjwej> nacc: if not, how can I do this?
[18:16] <nacc> arooni: even to magic sysrq
[18:16] <arooni> nacc: well on the 4.4 kernel the caps lock key would flash;  now on the 4.8 there is no caps lock flashing; but system doesnt seem responsive
[18:16] <enw2512> arooni: if it is already frozen, control + alt + f1 doesnt work either
[18:16] <arooni> nacc: enw2512 i tried alt + sysrq + any of the keys i found on wikipedia; nothing worked :(
[18:16] <nacc> arooni: what did you try to when your laptop froze?
[18:17] <arooni> nacc: resume from suspend
[18:17] <enw2512> arooni: the kernel reacts to control + alt + f1, so it must be still alive to do that
[18:17] <Torgeir> test
[18:17] <arooni> enw2512: gotcha
[18:17] <nacc> arooni: sorry, you said "i tried to do that when my laptop froze coming back"
[18:17] <nacc> arooni: what is "taht"
[18:17] <arooni> nacc: the magic keys thing
[18:17] <nacc> swjhwjwej: that's just changing filesystem ownership
[18:17] <nacc> arooni: ah ok, i'd try the debugging i provided in the above link
[18:17] <Jordan_U> arooni: enw2512: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/kernel-crash-dump.html
[18:17] <swjhwjwej> nacc: how can I do that?
[18:18] <doug16k> nacc, also, yes, my man file has it
[18:18] <nacc> swjhwjwej: that's what chown does -- i'm just saying it doesn't actually have to do with writing to the HDD. It has to do with ownership. Why are you changing ownership?
[18:18] <nacc> doug16k: ok, i'd file a bug with the nvidia ppa owners
[18:18] <arooni> i think its a common problem on laptops; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1566302
[18:19] <swjhwjwej> nacc: because I have two drives on my PC, one that has de OS and the other one for storage. The one that is used for storage doesnt let me paste or create folders in it.
[18:19] <nacc> swjhwjwej: it sounds like you are misconfiguring your system and trying to workaround it
[18:20] <nacc> swjhwjwej: you shouldn't generally need to change ownership of files just so you can write to them
[18:20] <nacc> arooni: yes, failing to resume from suspend is a common problem -- because vendors are terrible
[18:20] <swjhwjwej> nacc: ok, so how can I fix this?
[18:20] <arooni> nacc: well i was hoping lenovo was slightly better than most; i guess not lol
[18:21] <nacc> arooni: i mean, mine works fine, iirc -- but did take some debugging
[18:21] <nacc> arooni: are you using any fancy graphics?
[18:21] <arooni> nacc: nope; intel integrated graphics.  t420 laptop w/ 8gb of ram; 9gb of swap; and ubuntu 16.04.2
[18:22] <nacc> swjhwjwej: you need to take a step back and explain the actual problem. How are your filesystems mounted, what user are you logged in as, what is the ownership of the files and directories you are trying to access, etc. (all in a pastebin)
[18:22] <arooni> i tried some things in that bug thread i linked to; but none of them worked :\
[18:22] <nacc> arooni: did you try the explicit debugging steps i linked to?
[18:22] <nacc> arooni: it's like a 'dry-run' of what S/R is
[18:22] <Jordan_U> enw2512: I haven't used it myself, but it's enabled by default for Ubuntu server since 16.04 so I expect it to be fairly reliable, or at the very least not be dangerous (whereas trying to write to disk from a panic'd kernel directly definitely would be dangerous).
[18:22] <arooni> nacc: interesting;  i will do taht when i am sufficiently motivated lol;  i bookmarked it for now
[18:23] <nacc> enw2512: kexec/kdump is fairly reliable (the latter needs configuration)
[18:27] <ALFA> avallo ochi neri formosa
[18:27] <ALFA> occhi neri
[18:31] <pac1> charlie_saunder, that better not have been a physics joke!
[18:31] <swjhwjwej> nacc: the command was chown owner-user:owner-group directory
[18:31] <swjhwjwej> nacc: that the solution
[18:31] <nacc> swjhwjwej: yes, I know what the command was
[18:32] <nacc> swjhwjwej: *why* are you doing that??
[18:32] <nacc> swjhwjwej: it's not normal to need to
[18:32] <swjhwjwej> nacc: why?, I will like to learn
[18:32] <pac1> charlie_saunders, that better not have been a physics joke!
[18:32] <nacc> swjhwjwej: because your filesystem should be mounted with the correct permissions and the permissions on the directory should be correct already
[18:32] <pac1> there, a superposition of my own.
[18:33] <swjhwjwej> nacc: Indeed; you do that when installing the OS or with Gparted?
[18:33] <nacc> swjhwjwej: huh?
[18:33] <nacc> swjhwjwej: you haven't provided *any* of the information i asked for
[18:35] <swjhwjwej> nacc: Ill give it to you, which command should I use?. Sorry
[18:35] <nacc> swjhwjwej: you need to take a step back and explain the actual problem. How are your filesystems mounted, what user are you logged in as, what is the ownership of the files and directories you are trying to access, etc. (all in a pastebin)
[18:35] <nacc> swjhwjwej: probably all of that *before* you changed the ownership
[18:36] <swjhwjwej> nacc: yes I needed it fast
[18:36] <nacc> swjhwjwej: and you implied (earlier) you've done this before, which is almost certainly wrong
[18:38] <swjhwjwej> nacc: sorry, thanks for the help anyway
[18:39] <TheAmorphous> Can anyone tell me why with no monitor plugged in xrandr -q shows a maximum resolution of 1024x768?  This AMD GPU easily drives 1080 displays when plugged in.
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> TheAmorphous  istead of 'why', ask 'how', like *how* to fix the problem
[18:40] <ppf> TheAmorphous: how should xrandr know the max resolution without a monitor?
[18:41] <TheAmorphous> I installed this xorg dummy driver, I was under the impression it would use that
[18:41] <ppf> as max resolution is mostly a function of the monitor, not the gfx card
[18:41] <OerHeks> EDID does that
[18:42] <doug16k> nacc, solution was to force reinstall binutils
[18:42] <doug16k> (for nvidia install failure)
[18:43] <doug16k> I had a patched gdb for kernel debugging qemu
[18:43] <nacc> doug16k: ah
[18:44] <doug16k> strange but true, lol
[18:44] <doug16k> I've been using my intel gpu for weeks. going to enable my gpu and see what happens :D
[18:45] <doug16k> the cpu's integrated gpu really saved my butt when nvidias drivers blew up. fell back to it seamlessly
[18:49] <doug16k> thanks for responding nacc, I probably would have gave up sooner if you didn't respond :D
[18:49] <nacc> doug16k: np, glad you got it working
[18:53] <arooni> how do i find the path to SimpleNote ?  i cant seem to find it on the command line
[18:53] <nacc> arooni: what is SimpleNote (is it an ubuntu package)?
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> !find simplenote
[18:54] <arooni> nacc: a great light weight note app that syncs to the cloud
[18:54] <nacc> arooni: and is it an ubuntu package?
[18:54] <arooni> i looked up its .desktop package; and found its path
[18:54] <arooni>  err. .desktop file
[18:55] <nacc> looks to only be from nvpy on ubuntu, afaict
[18:56] <arooni> i think i dloaded it from github; cant remember
[18:56] <nacc> then I don't know how the Ubuntu support channel would know
[18:56] <nacc> arooni: --^
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> arooni  try    which simplenote
[18:59] <ZJAY> hey if i have an 5 TB external hard drive and i just purchased it is it better if i want to use it across linux windows and mac to leave the ntfs partition on there or change it to something like exfat i have huge files that i will be manipulating?
[19:07] <arooni> i found its path ; thanks folks
[19:11] <Zta> anddam: My logics tells me that SSH is encrypted, NFS isn't and therefore it's faster. That's one advantage.
[19:12] <Zta> anddam: Argh sorry, that my stupid irc client was stuck in some ancient question about NFS over SSHFS =)
[19:14] <enw2512> Zta: the nice thing about sshfs is you simply need a normal ssh account on the server side
[19:15] <Zta> enw2512: I know. I prefer ssh(fs) myself. But the original question was, what are the advantages of NFS over sshfs.
[19:16] <FinalX> Zta: NFS has quite the initial overhead, but it's way more portable and implements locking mechanisms, safer to use on multiple locations at once. plus NFS is not encrypted and therefore -after the initial overhead- often a bit faster.
[19:17] <FinalX> plus NFS is on a root level and supports multiple UID's, whereas sshfs does not
[19:19] <Zta> Good points.
[19:19] <tatertots> Zta: there are white papers that you can read for nfs and ssh, if your ubuntu is working fine....you might need to find some reading material to consume
[19:25] <arooni> trying to set up gdevilspie; how can i learn what my window class is for an app?  is that simply the title?
[19:29] <OerHeks> arooni, there is a great forumpost, url on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Devilspie, but forum is down due to hardwareupgrades
[19:31] <OerHeks> btw there is devilspie2 in the repos, without gui
[19:35] <singh1114> #aboutcoode
[19:36] <ducasse> arooni: just run xprop in a terminal and click a window with the cross that appears
[19:48] <dniMretsaM> Is there a way to install compat-wireless on 16.10? I haven't been able to find an updated package past Precise or so
[19:51] <tomreyn> https://backports.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page
[19:51] <tomreyn> dniMretsaM: see above. i don't know how to get them nowadays, though, probably through HWE stacks
[19:53] <dniMretsaM> Thanks, I'll see what I can find
[19:54] <dmiller309> Having an annoying bug in Ubuntu where Super+1 will type the number 1 instead of opening the launching/switching to the first application in my left-side launcher.
[19:56] <EriC^^> dmiller309: you sure it's a bug not the keyboard playing up?
[19:58] <ash_workz> how do you filter top's `COMMAND` field?
[19:58] <netsec> hi
[19:58] <dmiller309> It's not the keyboard playing up.
[19:59] <netsec> hello
[19:59] <dmiller309> It's happened on my desktop as well, but it's harder to make happen on my desktop because the super key is faster there.
[20:01] <dmiller309> It takes 3 seconds to open the start menu after pressing the Super key, and I've disabled Aero blur which made it even slower.
[20:03] <dmiller309> I have to press and hold the super key until the number icons appear on top of the left-side panel (which is 3 seconds), then pressing the number key will work to switch to that application.
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> ash_workz  i guess the htop command can do that
[20:05] <ash_workz> I see
[20:08] <xiusfist> hi I have been wanting to install ubuntu for a while and had a couple of questions. my first question is if 20GB is enough space for an Ubuntu instalation. My second question is weather or not it is posible to access my windows partition within ubuntu in case I wanted to save a large file or transfer data.
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> xiusfist  yes and yes
[20:09] <dmiller309> I've installed Ubuntu on a computer with a 20GB hard drive.
[20:09] <Bashing-om> xiusfist: Yes and yes .. but is recommneded 30 Gigs as a 1st approximation .
[20:10] <dmiller309> My guess is that you're considering dual booting, putting your data on the Windows NTFS partition, and using that for your data on Ubuntu.
[20:10] <w9qbj> xiusfist, I think 20G would be tight but possible.  Q2 - yes, you have to mount the Win part.
[20:12] <xiusfist> @wqbj I was under the impression that the ubuntu install size was around 14GB? you are saying that I should make the partition 30? does this include the size needed for updates?
[20:12] <xiusfist> @dmiller309 yes that is what I plan to do
[20:13] <xiusfist> @w9qbj I was under the impression that the ubuntu install size was around 14GB? you are saying that I should make the partition 30? does this include the size needed for updates?
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> xiusfist  you can drop the @ ... type two characters of a name, then hit tab
[20:13] <roue_> hola
[20:14] <xiusfist> MonkeyDust: oh neat
[20:15] <roue_> I'm running into a strange apt-get update / upgrade issue on an older system (12.04.05). I have three mysql-server packaged ( mysql-server 5.5.46-0ubuntu0.12.04.2, mysql-server-5.5 5.5.46-0ubuntu0.12.04.2 and mysql-server-core-5.5 5.5.54-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 ) Not the version difference between the first two ( 5.5.46 ) and the last ( 5.5.54 ). When I try to run apt-get update / upgrade it fails to configure the package because ...
[20:15] <roue_> ... "mysql-server-5.5 : Depends: mysql-server-core-5.5 (= 5.5.46-0ubuntu0.12.04.2) but 5.5.54-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 is installed"
[20:15] <w9qbj> More room is always better.  I have had a time when updates couldn't complete because of lack of space.  If you can afford the space of the disk I'd go for it. Bu tonly you know(?) how much extra you may be keeping on the linux part (.jpg .mp3 etc) in the future.
[20:16] <roue_> This isn't my box, so I don't know how they got into this state. I'd appreciate any pointers toward resolving it ( short of wiping the whole box and installed 16.10 ... )
[20:18] <xiusfist> w9qbj: ok cool. I dont plan on doing anything crazy on it. I just plan on using it to get first hand experience with Linux commands for a possible job.
[20:18] <nacc> roue_: it would appear they installed from a non-ubuntu source
[20:18] <nacc> !info mysql-server precise | roue_
[20:18] <nacc> roue_: can you pastebin `apt-cache policy mysql-server` ?
[20:19] <roue_> nacc getting it now. Thanks.
[20:19] <dmiller309> Windows overwrote the bootloader thing so that the Ubuntu-Windows dual boot became a Windows single-boot. I reinstalled Ubuntu and fully wiped Windows after that.
[20:20] <w9qbj> xiusfist, good luck.  And you might find that you will like linux so much you'll just stay there - but by thenyou might junk the idea of Win all togheter
[20:20] <dmiller309> That was back in the days of Vista/7, so I don't know if Windows does that stuff anymore.
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> !manual | xiusfist this can be helpful
[20:20] <ash_workz> every line reported by `ps -ely` is a separate process right? Is ~750 a high number of processes with the 'z_' prefix (about 200 each for fr_iss_, rd_int_ and wr_int_)?
[20:20] <roue_> nacc here: http://pastebin.com/pgvRhWks
[20:21] <dmiller309> If this is a desktop, I would recommend adding a small second hard drive and booting to that and accessing the data on the other one instead of partitioning your Windows install.
[20:21] <xiusfist> MonkeyDust: thank you for your help.
[20:21] <nacc> roue_: right, so they d/l'd a .deb from somewhere and manually installed it
[20:21] <roue_> nacc, that's too bad.
[20:21] <nacc> roue_: really not recommended to do that :/
[20:22] <roue_> nacc, so I'm guessing my best bet would be to uninstall it and apt-get install mysql-server again.
[20:22] <nacc> roue_: are you interested in fixing it or do you want to contact the owner first?
[20:22] <roue_> fixing it.
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> xiusfist  you're welcome
[20:22] <ash_workz> I bet those tasks are related to zfs
[20:22] <nacc> roue_: right, i think you should be able to do something like `apt-get install mysql-server=5.5.54-0ubuntu0.12.04.1` which will complain about mismatches and keep adding to that until you get the deps at the right level
[20:23] <xiusfist> dmiller309: unfortunately due my volatile living situation. ie couch surfing. having a full size desktop is not within my means. but thank you for the suggestion.
[20:23] <ash_workz> nacc: +1 for using backticks to quote your code. :)
[20:24] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Z for zombie . See: http://askubuntu.com/questions/111422/how-to-find-zombie-process .
[20:24] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: well, `ps aux` doesn't report any zombie processes, but it shows a ton of sleeping ones
[20:24] <nacc> Bashing-om: I think they meant the command is z_...
[20:25] <ash_workz> nacc: yeah
[20:25] <nacc> ash_workz: e.g., z_fr_iss_ ?
[20:25] <ash_workz> z_fr_iss_#
[20:25] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: expected that a process not actively running to be a sleep mode .
[20:25] <nacc> ash_workz: pstree may help you understand where they come from
[20:25] <nacc> ash_workz: but yes, z_wr_iss is e.g., from zfsonlinux
[20:25] <dmiller309> @xiusfist If you use Android, install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.softwarebakery.drivedroid
[20:26] <nacc> ash_workz: i would assume those all are
[20:26] <ash_workz> nacc: is it normal to have that many?
[20:26] <dmiller309> DriveDroid is very convenient for installing any distro, and if something goes wrong with your setup you can use DriveDroid's Live ISO.
[20:27] <nacc> ash_workz: i have no idea, i don't use ZFS
[20:27] <nacc> ash_workz: i believe it's heavily threaded in sw, so it's not surprising
[20:27] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: On my system currently: " Tasks: 184 total,   1 running, 183 sleeping, " .
[20:27] <ash_workz> my problem is that I'm using pg_restore in several (14) different screens and it's taking way too long.
[20:28] <ash_workz> I mean, I expected it to take a long time, but really not longer than two days.
[20:29] <nacc> ash_workz: confused -- why are you running 14 pg_restores at the same time?
[20:30] <ash_workz> well, maybe I need to dispel some false notions.
[20:31] <ash_workz> nacc: when I was researching pg_restore + parallelism, I got the impression that would be a good idea so long as the number of jobs is less than that of the number of cores you have.
[20:31] <ash_workz> nacc: which is 48.
[20:32] <ash_workz> nacc: the pg_restore wasn't (however) dumped as a full restore file, nor in
[20:33] <ash_workz> 'directory' format, so using pg_restore -j was not an option. So I thought it would be okay if I just ended up using pg_restore -a on the individual table dumps using parallel screens.
[20:34] <nacc> ash_workz: and you're seeing them not make progress?
[20:35] <enw2512> make progress
[20:35] <enw2512> make: *** No rule to make target `progress'.  Stop.
[20:35] <ash_workz> this has worked for awhile, for example, I started 2 tables (amongst others) at the same time; one was 49G and the other 53G... the 49G table finished 2 days ago
[20:36] <ash_workz> nacc: how would I be able to check that? even pg_restore --verbose doesn't seem to yield any output if nothing is going wrong
[20:37]  * ash_workz checks himself on that
[20:37] <nacc> ash_workz: i mean, you should see running processes
[20:37] <nacc> ash_workz: i'd check man `pg_restore`, sometimes those kind of tools take signals to indicate to dump progress
[20:38] <paddyez> Hi, am I the only one asking about chromium not working?
[20:38] <ash_workz> nacc: well, at this point, I would be extremely hesitant to restart a restore that's taken place over 4 days.
[20:38] <nacc> ash_workz: if pg_restore supports it, sending a non-fatal signal to it will not kill it
[20:39] <nacc> ash_workz: hence read the manpage to see :)
[20:39] <nacc> ash_workz: the problem is what an estimate would mean in this case
[20:39] <ash_workz> in any case, I used &>> logfile, and that just says 'pg_restore: processing data for table "public.my_table"'
[20:39] <ash_workz> nacc: 'estimate'?
[20:39] <nacc> ash_workz: as probably, you can't guess how much IO load you will ahve in the future, so time is bad; you can estimate rows of tables, i guess
[20:40] <OerHeks> paddyez, explain "chromium not working"?
[20:40] <miceiken> Hello. I am looking for some kind of solution where any remote/external network traffic is blocked if it is not sent through VPN. LAN traffic is allowed. Any idea how I can achieve this?
[20:40] <Enlite> trying out ubuntu budgie for the first time
[20:42] <tatertots> miceiken: contact the network administrator or engineer and inquire if restrictions can be removed
[20:42] <paddyez> OerHeks: like "Oh no can not display this website" even if you call chrome://settings/
[20:42] <compdoc> miceiken, what does the vpn connect to?
[20:43] <miceiken> tatertots, that's besides the point, I want to intentionally route all traffic through a tunnel
[20:43] <miceiken> compdoc, what do you mean?
[20:44] <compdoc> a vpn from where to where? home/office, office/office?
[20:44] <compdoc> bedroom/bedroom
[20:44] <miceiken> home to vpn provider
[20:44] <OerHeks> paddyez, did you try to remove the chome settings in ~/.config/google-chrome  ?
[20:44] <tatertots> miceiken: then configure the network to meet your requirements....there's a #networking or #network channel or chat room on freenode
[20:45] <paddyez> OerHeks: yes I did
[20:45] <compdoc> oh. sorry, I never used a provider. I use pfsense to create home/office tunnels. works very well
[20:46] <compdoc> miceiken
[20:47] <smr> eeeee
[20:47] <paddyez> OerHeks: rm -rf .config/chromium/
[20:47] <smr> eeeee
[20:47] <SMR1> :D
[20:47] <smr> vamonos ya
[20:50] <miceiken> thanks compdoc, tatertots
[20:50] <smr_> eeeee
[20:51] <Zythyr> Need help. I am trying to build a packge. The build intsturations suchs I need openmotif. HOw do I isntall openmotiff? It says: "ida uses Motif 2.x features (utm, render tables).  This means you need openmotif, lesstif does *not* cut it."
[20:53] <OerHeks> Zythyr, old package,  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openmotif/
[20:53] <paddyez> so I am the only ine that can not use chromium anymore
[20:53] <OerHeks> paddyez, i guess so, reinstall chromium perhaps?
[20:54] <paddyez> OerHeks: I did apt install --reinstall already
[20:54] <paddyez> do I need to purge?
[20:55] <OerHeks> paddyez, you purged the config manually already, so i guess it is oke.
[20:55] <OerHeks> paddyez, if you see normal pages on an other browser, i have no clue there.
[20:56] <paddyez> hm OK
[20:57] <Zythyr> Can someone please help me. I am trying to use make command on fbida (https://www.kraxel.org/releases/fbida/) but I am getting error. Here are details on the error: https://github.com/wware/fbida/issues/1#issuecomment-284045385
[20:58] <chilversc> I'm trying to install ubuntu but everytime the installer shows a modal dialog the whole UI locks up and stops responding to input (can still move the cursor but that is all)
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> chilversc  what's in the dialog?
[21:00] <chilversc> just the standard disk partition buttons
[21:01] <chilversc> eg, partition size, drop down for type, etc
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> chilversc  from dvd or usb?
[21:01] <chilversc> usb
[21:02] <algid> anyone have any idea why when i do apache2ctl -S it lists this one domain but when i try to a2dissite the domain it says it doesn't exist?
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> chilversc  can you show a screenshot? use imgur.com
[21:06] <elias_a_> OT: if you use a camera to take a pic of the display can it be called a screenshot?
[21:07] <socket-_> Hey guys, when a package says "Depends:blah on (= 1.0) but 1.0.1 is to be installed, is there a way to say that it's ok for it to beequal or greater, instead of exactly equal too?
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> elias_a_  chilversc not sure what s/he means by 'a dialog', that's why i'm asking
[21:08] <chilversc> MonkeyDust: it's the dialog from step 4 http://askubuntu.com/questions/343268/how-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation
[21:08] <dl21> hi all, i am trying to dual boot windows on my ubuntu disk. when I try to install i get an error that it cant setup was unable to create a new partition or locate the existing one. does anyone know how to fix this without deleting my ubuntu partition?
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> chilversc  partitoning is the hardest part if you're new ... my advice: in the live session, use gparted to create partition, first
[21:11] <dl21> i did that
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> partitions*
[21:12] <dl21> i sharnk my ubuntu partition and created space for windows but the install will not proceed
[21:12] <dl21> shrank*
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> chilversc  got to go, other timezone here, hope you make it
[21:15] <chilversc> I do see mentions of other people getting ui lockups when using optimus
[21:16] <Bashing-om> dl21: Pastebin for the channel ' sudo fdisk -lu ' . We see what the story is .
[21:17] <elias_a> Has someone had trouble with user called insiad?
[21:17] <OerHeks> dl21, "A Windows OS should be installed first,"  says our wiki .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[21:18] <insiad> elias_a: ?
[21:18] <OerHeks> elias_a, if you have an issue there, join #ubuntu-ops
[21:18] <dl21> OerHeks, I understand thats how i should do it usually but I already have ubuntu installed on this drive. Are there any ways around? I will send fdisk output asap
[21:18] <elias_a> OerHeks: Ty
[21:20] <OerHeks> dl21, as explained there, windows might wipe the hdd as it does not recognize ext4
[21:20] <OerHeks> * which is a good thing, malware-wise
[21:21] <insiad> I always had trouble installing to usb
[21:23] <insiad> It seems immposible to install to just 1 external drive without installing uefi onto the internal drive
[21:23] <dl21> here is a summary of fdisk.. http://pastebin.com/GxQ37BV1
[21:23] <ppf> is /etc/cron.d auto-refreshed?
[21:25] <Zythyr> Need help. In Terminal when I use teh command "su" it is asking me for password. WHen I put in password it says Authentication failure. WHen I use sudo I my password works. But when I use su, it doesn't work
[21:26] <snophey> have you tried doing "sudo su"?
[21:27] <Bashing-om> dl21: If I am not mistaken ( not Window literate ) Windows will not install onto a logical partition . Is that what you are attempting ?
[21:27] <OerHeks> Zythyr, sudo -i # is the ubuntu way to obtain root for the whole terminal session
[21:27] <Pici> snophey, Zythyr: theres no good reason to use sudo su, if you want an interactive sudo session, use sudo -i
[21:31] <boze> I bricked my computer :( I added 2 nvidia cards. The drivers weren't showing up under additional drivers (Pretty sure I had the 367 version on there already) so I tried to apt get install nvidia-current and now I can't log in. It says trying to recover journal then goes back to the login screen. I tried booting off a USB but it says gfxboot.c32 is not an image
[21:31] <Exagerado> Hello... is there any channel for ubuntu server?
[21:31] <boze> not a com32 image *
[21:31] <Pici> Exagerado: #ubuntu-server
[21:31] <Zythyr> OerHeks Do I need to do "sudo -i -c "make install"" instead of "su -c "make install""?
[21:31] <Exagerado> Pici: lol... sorry about that :)
[21:32] <boze> Shouldn't have messed with it on a work day : /
[21:32] <snophey> Zythyr "sudo make install" should do the trick
[21:35] <Zythyr> snophey But why is my password not working when i do su
[21:36] <snophey> Zythyr: from ubuntu wiki: By default, the root account password is locked in Ubuntu. This means that you cannot login as root directly or use the su command to become the root user.
[21:36] <Zythyr> snophey Ohh okay thank u :)
[21:37] <OerHeks> Zythyr, sudo make install, or sudo -i , make install
[21:37] <genii> Zythyr: If you require elevated priveleges to run something as root, use either sudo <commandhere> or else sudo -i  ...do your root things, when done: exit
[21:39] <Zythyr> Thank u for the clarification. :)
[21:40] <doltek> Hello, I am new to ubuntu and I have an issue with one of my monirors working properly. Is there any way I can get some help please?
[21:41] <Mathisen> doltek, you could explain your problem in a little more detail and it would help
[21:42] <doltek> My Samsung monitor, I can only see the cursor at the top of the screen and then it disappears
[21:43] <ppf> for completeness, answering my own question (from the redhat docs): The cron daemon checks the /etc/cron.d/ directory every minute for any changes.
[21:46] <doltek> Oh I forgot to mention I have and ATI video card
[21:47] <Whiskey> Is there anyway to select all tcl files from a root folder and all subfolders and count the rows in it? and don´t count the lines start whit ¤
[21:47] <Whiskey> Is there anyway to select all tcl files from a root folder and all subfolders and count the rows in it? and don´t count the lines start whit #
[21:47] <OerHeks> doltek, on what ubuntu version, what ati card, and driver?
[21:47] <snophey> doltek, are you using the open source drivers? or the propriatory ones?
[21:47] <floogy> How can I move the akonadi datadir to a ssd to speed mysql backend up?
[21:47] <zzero1> need some help just working with efi and I cannot get this working http://askubuntu.com/questions/575413/ralink-148f760b-mt7601-driver-kernel-panic-on-ubuntu-14-04
[21:48] <doltek> I am using ubuntu 16.10
[21:48] <zzero1> Bus 003 Device 005: ID 148f:7601 Ralink Technology, Corp. MT7601U Wireless Adapter
[21:48] <akik> Whiskey: you can combine the commands find and wc to do it. e.g. find / -name "*tcl" -exec wc -l "{}" ";"
[21:49] <zzero1> ubuntu 16.04 lts x86_64
[21:49] <doltek> Not sure how to figure the driver question out
[21:49] <zzero1> Bus 003 Device 005: ID 148f:7601 Ralink Technology, Corp. MT7601U Wireless Adapter
[21:49] <doltek> WHat ever the default is when installing Ubuntu
[21:49] <akik> Whiskey: this doesn't handle the comment lines though
[21:50] <zzero1> I get tainted kernel messages when I try to load the module
[21:51] <zzero1> my onboard wifi does not work with ubuntu
[21:52] <zzero1> which is BCM43228
[21:52] <snophey> doltek: try doing lshw -c video | grep 'configuration'
[21:52] <snophey> in terminal
[21:52] <doltek> I came from Windows and got really really pissed off so I formated my computer and went 100% Ubuntu
[21:53] <andycom> Hi! Can anyone recommend how to solve this issue: I cannot get an ipv4 address over ethernet, only ipv6.
[21:54] <doltek> doltek@matt-linux:~$ lshw -c video | grep 'configuration'
[21:54] <doltek> WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
[21:54] <doltek>        configuration: driver=radeon latency=0
[21:54] <doltek>        configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
[21:54] <doltek> WARNING: output may be incomplete or inaccurate, you should run this program as super-user.
[21:54] <doltek> doltek@matt-linux:~$ ^C
[21:54] <doltek> doltek@matt-linux:~$
[21:55] <OerHeks> !paste
[21:55] <doltek> Sorry
[21:57] <snophey> doltek: you use multiple monitors, right?
[21:57] <doltek> yes I do
[21:57] <doltek> 2
[21:58] <Whiskey> akik: found cloc, what an awsome software :D
[21:58] <Whiskey> http://cloc.sourceforge.net
[21:58] <doltek> One is a Samsung 27" (This one is giving me issues) the other is a 27" LG Working Fine!
[21:59] <snophey> doltek: and the cursor disappears when it reaches the top of the screen?
[21:59] <doltek> I can only see it at the top of the screen
[21:59] <OerHeks> zzero1, Ubuntu 16.04 onward , the Ralink MT7601U adapter should just work, no special build of the driver/firmware needed, maybe you need to activate it in drivers section
[22:00] <zzero1> OerHeks: I modprobe it
[22:00] <zzero1> but in dmesg I get a message about tainted kernel
[22:00] <zzero1> I guess that has to do with the efi signing requirements
[22:01] <zzero1> the thing is that I don't secure boot enabled
[22:02] <zzero1> have
[22:03] <snophey> doltek: could you try ctrl+alt+f1 followed by ctrl+alt+f7 ?
[22:03] <cv3> ls
[22:03] <cv3> ping www.google.com
[22:04] <doltek> It works now
[22:04] <ppf> cv3: not a shell
[22:04] <doltek> How the heck?
[22:04] <snophey> doltek: seems to be lightdm issue
[22:04] <doltek> Ok now it disappears at the top
[22:06] <zzero1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24127172/
[22:07] <nacc> zzero1: there are multiple reasons for taint, this one is because you are loading an out of tree module
[22:07] <nacc> OerHeks: but you just said that no out of tree module should be necessary?
[22:07] <kangaroo72> Hello. I've using a KVM for a long time (Win 10 as guest) the host (Ubuntu 16.04LTS) suddenly lost net (vnet0) it's not shown anymore ... can someone help please? Thank you
[22:07] <doltek> Sp, now that the cursor works on the bottom part how do I fix the top now not working>
[22:07] <OerHeks> nacc,  according to http://askubuntu.com/questions/457061/ralink-mt7601u-148f7601-wi-fi-adapter-installation and http://askubuntu.com/questions/796657/ralink-mt7601u-148f7601-wi-fi-adapter-not-working-on-ubuntu-16-04
[22:08] <snophey> doltek: you could try restarting lightdm with sudo service lightdm restart, but be warned that that will kill all graphical applications you are currently running
[22:08] <nacc> OerHeks: I trusted you -- just trying to see why zzero1 loading a module manually
[22:09] <kangaroo72> virbr0 is also missing
[22:09] <doltek> Then I can jst reopent them?
[22:09] <zzero1> nacc before my bios to efi update I vaugely remember that I could get this wifi card working with modprobing the module
[22:09] <xangua> BIOS to EFI update? O_o
[22:09] <boze> I tried to install nvidia-current drivers and now I'm stuck in a mean login loop. Can't get in. I tried purge --remove nvidia-* :/
[22:09] <snophey> doltek: yes
[22:10] <doltek> thx
[22:10] <doltek> Ill try it now
[22:10] <zzero1> xangua: bios to efi setting and efi stub kernel booting
[22:10] <elliot_> hi
[22:10] <xangua> Ooh, that's a motherboard thing?
[22:11] <nacc> zzero1: in any case, tainting the kernel is just a warning normally. It doesn't prevent the module from loading (except if you are using secure boot)
[22:11] <boze> it says clearing orphaned inode then it goes back to the login screen
[22:12] <zzero1> nacc not using secure boot. So what else I should check in order to find out what is happening and I cannot see the card recognized in the netwrk manager ?
[22:12] <zzero1> (using xfce)
[22:12] <zzero1> *o
[22:13] <nacc> zzero1: 16.04 ?
[22:13] <zzero1> nacc: Description:	Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS
[22:13] <elliot_> 16.04lts is what im running
[22:14] <zzero1> Linux user-system 4.8.0-36-generic #36~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Sun Feb 5 09:39:57 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:14] <doltek> snophey, thanks a million!!
[22:14] <nacc> OerHeks: --^ think you can help out? i have to switch back to regular work
[22:15] <doltek> But im back at square 1
[22:15] <nacc> zzero1: does `dmesg` (without loading hte module, so reboot first) indicate the device is recognized?
[22:16] <zzero1> nacc have to reboot to check :S
[22:16] <tatertots> zzero1: open terminal
[22:16] <tatertots> zzero1: nevermind
[22:16] <zzero1> okay tatertots
[22:17] <tatertots> zzero1: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[22:17] <zzero1> yes
[22:17] <zzero1> I do have lan
[22:17] <zzero1> only
[22:17] <tatertots> zzero1: in terminal>     sudo apt install inxi pastebinit sosreport
[22:18] <ZJAY> anybody know of a voice-changer for ubuntu???
[22:18] <tatertots> zzero1: let me know when its done
[22:18] <zzero1> kk
[22:19] <zzero1> done
[22:19] <tatertots> zzero1: in terminal>       inxi -Fxxrzc0|pastebinit
[22:19] <tatertots> zzero1: press enter, then share the url/link here
[22:20] <zzero1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24127237/
[22:21] <nacc> zzero1: yes, your card is recognized by your system without that external module (it's using the rt2870 module correctly)
[22:21] <nacc> tatertots: --^
[22:22] <tatertots> zzero1: in terminal>    sudo ip link set ra0 up
[22:23] <zzero1> tatertots: when I saw the the log I issued sudo ifconfig ra0 up
[22:23] <tatertots> zzero1: not sure why you're telling me that but okay
[22:24] <tatertots> zzero1: did you do what i said above? yes or no
[22:24] <zzero1> I did
[22:24] <tatertots> zzero1: in terminal>   sudo iw dev ra0 scan &> ~/nfo.nfo
[22:25] <tatertots> zzero1: did you do it? yes or no
[22:26] <zzero1> tatertots: command failed: No such device (-19)
[22:26] <zzero1> the log contains that
[22:26] <tatertots> zzero1: in terminal>   iw dev|pastebinit
[22:26] <tatertots> zzero1: press enter, then share the url/link here
[22:26] <nacc> zzero1: it may be useful to `dmesg | grep ra0 | pastebinit` as well, pasting the resulting url here
[22:27] <zzero1> tatertots: iw dev doesnt output anything
[22:27] <zzero1> nacc no output from dmesg
[22:27] <zzero1> grep does not return anything
[22:27] <nacc> zzero1: can you pastebin all of dmesg, then
[22:28] <tatertots> zzero1: do you still have the ubuntu livecd/liveusb you used to install ubuntu with?
[22:28] <zzero1> well I do have a live usb
[22:28] <zzero1> with the same arch
[22:28] <tatertots> zzero1: boot livecd/liveusb and return here
[22:28] <zzero1> I 'm actually trying not to reinstall it
[22:28] <nacc> zzero1: did the wireless work from liveusb?
[22:29] <zzero1> tatertots: yes
[22:29] <tatertots> zzero1: in terminal>     sudo sosreport
[22:29] <tatertots> zzero1: you can skip case number by pressing enter again when prompted
[22:30] <tatertots> zzero1: let it run...let me know when its done
[22:31] <zzero1> tatertots: bcasting hw fingerprint out to the wild :P
[22:31] <hackel> Does Ubuntu have "official" LXD images?  https://us.images.linuxcontainers.org/ claims their images are unoficial and to get them from the distribution, but I can't finid them anywhere, which seems odd for a Canonical-sponsored project!
[22:31] <nacc> hackel: lxc launch ubuntu:<codename>
[22:31] <zzero1> tatertots: should I use a particular file hosting service ?
[22:31] <hanshenrik_> im using an ubuntu 16.04 live cd rescue disc, and..
[22:31] <hanshenrik_> root@51-15-0-217:~# mount /dev/sda3 /3
[22:31] <hanshenrik_> mount: unknown filesystem type 'btrfs'
[22:31] <hackel> nacc: Gracias
[22:32] <nacc> hackel: also, #lxcontainers :)
[22:32] <hanshenrik_> how do i get btrfs support on that live cd just for this session?
[22:32] <nacc> hanshenrik_: might need to `modprobe btrfs` first
[22:32] <tatertots> zzero1: you will upload file(s) to https://filebin.net/
[22:32] <hanshenrik_> root@51-15-0-217:~# modprobe btrfs
[22:32] <hanshenrik_> modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:586 kmod_search_moddep() could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/4.4.0-62-generic/modules.dep.bin'
[22:32] <hanshenrik_> modprobe: FATAL: Module btrfs not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.0-62-generic
[22:33] <nacc> hanshenrik_: use a pastebin generally
[22:33] <tatertots> zzero1: in terminal>    sudo chown $USER /tmp/sos*
[22:33] <tatertots> zzero1: in terminal>    mv /tmp/sos* ~/
[22:33] <tatertots> zzero1: there is a space after *
[22:33] <zzero1> did not chowed it
[22:33] <zzero1> uploaded it directly
[22:33] <zzero1> :P
[22:33] <zzero1> should
[22:33] <tatertots> zzero1: share url/link here
[22:34] <zzero1> hold on
[22:34] <zzero1> you are right
[22:34] <zzero1> user does not privileges
[22:34] <zzero1> hold on
[22:34] <tatertots> zzero1: if you simply follow my instructions this goes much smoother
[22:35] <tatertots> zzero1: but sure ...we'll hold on...whatevs
[22:35] <tatertots> zzero1: the objective is that you post the url/link to the files now/next
[22:35] <zzero1> Failed due to network error
[22:36] <zzero1> wow 13 mb of text
[22:36] <zzero1> pretty much the entire system configuration
[22:37] <tatertots> zzero1: we're still waiting on you to do something...
[22:38] <zzero1> https://filebin.net/f3qhjsuxs2gvotw3
[22:38] <PoolShark__> hola
[22:38] <PoolShark__> whoops
[22:38] <tatertots> zzero1: does the wireless adapter work when booted to livecd/liveusb? yes or no
[22:39] <zzero1> tatertots: yes
[22:39] <PoolShark__> So has anyone ever had any success getting a Netgear Aircard to work with 16.04.2?
[22:39] <zzero1> the external one the Ralink MT7601U
[22:39] <tatertots> zzero1: then it is the system administrative choices that have been make post installation that is the culprit
[22:40] <tatertots> zzero1: made
[22:40] <zzero1> or haven't made
[22:41] <tatertots> zzero1: no "or haven't made".....you've already admit that it worked from livecd/liveusb......so you don't get to say "or haven't made"
[22:41] <orb_> hi all
[22:42] <orb_> could someone please help me copy a folder from downloads directory to the /usr/share/fonts/opentype/
[22:42] <tatertots> zzero1: it worked from livecd/liveusb which is a environment free from any of your tampering
[22:42] <orb_> when i try to copy it it has the "permission denied" so i believe it is the permissions on the folder
[22:42] <zzero1> tatertots: I have left the system to it's devices, without any maintenance for a very long time
[22:42] <p1l0t> I created a file androidstudio.desktop in my /home/user/.local/share/applications folder but I don't see any icon on my desktop... is that not how it works/?
[22:43] <zzero1> tatertots: the internal BCM43228 won't work from the live cd. Only the external
[22:43] <tatertots> zzero1: i'm analyzing the report now
[22:44] <p1l0t> I do see that made the link wrong inside of it maybe it will only show if will actually work?
[22:45] <OerHeks> p1l0t, maybe you need to logout/login, if you installed it for your user only ( not systemwide)
[22:46] <p1l0t> OerHeks: I did logout once already but no that changed the link maybe I need to do it again
[22:48] <p1l0t> OerHeks: Yeah I still don't see it.
[22:49] <tatertots> zzero1: you will need to (re)architect your networking in order to bring in this new connection into your environment, you've got a lot going on connection wise https://gist.github.com/7df18a221b3ae7ee0c3a9d5918c4d713 and i'm not surprised it worked when when booted to the livecd/liveusb which is free of the additional complexity by having three active connections and attempting to add a fourth
[22:51] <zzero1> tatertots: I have to assume that this additional complexity makes identifying the issue more difficult
[22:52] <tatertots> zzero1: did the Ralink MT7601U Wireless Adapter work when booted to livecd/liveusb? yes or no
[22:52] <zzero1> Yes
[22:52] <zzero1> it did
[22:54] <zzero1> should I check if the liveusb driver is the same with one loaded in this setup ?
[22:55] <tatertots> zzero1: yes that's something you can check
[22:55] <OerHeks> p1l0t, it should be easy peasy http://askubuntu.com/questions/829942/how-to-add-android-studio-to-the-dash
[22:56] <zzero1> tatertots: the thing is that now I 'm wifi-less
[22:56] <zzero1> on a mobile device, which is not a great thing
[22:58] <zzero1> this might be of assistance http://paste.ubuntu.com/24127411/
[22:59] <zzero1> it is from iwconfig
[23:02] <kangaroo73> Hi ... me again - I'm still in trouble with network ....
[23:02] <tatertots> zzero1: in terminal>    cat ~/nfo.nfo|pastebinit
[23:03] <kangaroo73> I setup network from scratch and now have the primary nic working
[23:03] <kangaroo73> can someone assist creating a bridge for kvm?
[23:03] <zzero1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24127442/
[23:05] <tatertots> zzero1: are you able to manage the Ralink MT7601U Wireless Adapter using the gui/network manager when booted to livecd/liveusb?
[23:05] <zzero1> yes
[23:05] <compdoc> kangaroo73, yes
[23:06] <tatertots> zzero1: you will have to manage it without network manager in your installed OS
[23:06] <kangaroo73> actually my primary is "enp6s0"
[23:06] <kangaroo73> (in interfaces)
[23:06] <kangaroo73> setup static
[23:07] <kangaroo73> Interfaces here ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/24127543/
[23:07] <zzero1> I was really hoping for an answer that would gui
[23:08] <OerHeks> kangaroo73, good start: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KvmWithBridge
[23:09] <kangaroo73> thanks - looks not bad - will check
[23:10] <kangaroo73> but I think both is also with dhcp possible??
[23:10] <kangaroo73> 'cause I'm assigning with MAC
[23:11] <jason_-> Does anyone know if having two different nvidia gpus on the same machine causes any issues in Ubuntu? Dealing with intel + a nvidia tesla card is a huge PITA so I was just going to buy a cheap card for driving my displays.
[23:11] <zzero1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24127602/
[23:11] <p1l0t> OerHeks: Oh it works, I'm downloading the components now. I just wanted to make a shortcut
[23:12] <tatertots> zzero1: in terminal>   ubuntu-drivers list|pastebinit
[23:12] <zzero1> and the other one http://paste.ubuntu.com/24127608/
[23:13] <zzero1> this from the internal wifi card
[23:13] <OerHeks> tatertots, i am wondering too, we already told zzero1 that his BCM is supported from the drivers section.. no reason for sudo apt install  bcmwl-kernel-source
[23:13] <jason_-> So like a nvidia K40 + a geforce 740 or something along those lines. I was wondering if that would be okay.
[23:13] <zzero1> OerHeks: it maybe is but I do not see it anywhere
[23:13] <zzero1> on my system
[23:14] <tatertots> zzero1: why do you have two bridges?
[23:14] <puppto> Hi all, after a kernel update with "sudo apt-get install linux-generic" what command must i run to boot from it? I have tried "update-grub" but keeps booting into the old one
[23:14] <tatertots> zzero1: any only one active physical interface
[23:14] <nacc> puppto: do you have access to the console?
[23:14] <nacc> puppto: just pick the right one in grub :)
[23:14] <zzero1> no the BCM internal wifi stopped working after a kernel upgrade and then to remedy this, I decided to buy the ralink one
[23:14] <puppto> nacc: yeah but i need to automate this
[23:14] <zzero1> external
[23:15] <nacc> puppto: `grub-set-default` ?
[23:15] <zzero1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24127609/
[23:15] <nacc> puppto: but it should, by default, boot to the latest, if grub is using the 'ubuntu' entry
[23:15] <zzero1> the result of ubuntu-drivers list|pastebinit
[23:15] <OerHeks> zzero1, you confirmed that it worken on live-iso .. it only stops working after kernel update if you build the module yourself, and you need to repeat that after any kernel update.
[23:15] <puppto> nacc: that might be it! i have customized the entry on grub... sometime ago
[23:15] <nacc> puppto: ah ok, that's the issue then -- default Ubuntu doesn't ahve this issue
[23:15] <zzero1> OerHeks: the external ralink card only works on the live iso
[23:16] <zzero1> the internal is no go
[23:16] <puppto> nacc: as i remember i only changed its name though,, would that be enough to "break" this ?
[23:16] <nacc> puppto: possibly?
[23:16] <nacc> puppto: i'm not sure, tbh
[23:17] <zzero1> OerHeks: the module was built from the apt ubuntu system for the internal broadcom
[23:18] <zzero1> and the kernel upgrade was done through the internal ubuntu system without any manual deb downloads
[23:19] <kangaroo73> Well ...
[23:19] <kangaroo73> I have enp6s0 with 192.168.178.10
[23:20] <kangaroo73> br0 with 192.168.178.10
[23:20] <kangaroo73> but no ping possible
[23:20] <kangaroo73> not local not wan
[23:20] <nacc> kangaroo73: uh, you should *not* have two devices with the same IP
[23:20] <kangaroo73> it's dhcp?!
[23:21] <nacc> kangaroo73: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces, if that's what you are using
[23:21] <kangaroo73> for both interfaces I have "iface enp6s0 inet dhcp" & "iface br0 inet dhcp"
[23:22] <kangaroo73> no net no paste :(
[23:22] <nacc> kangaroo73: you are on IRC, even if you have to type it, should only be ~ 10 lines
[23:22] <kangaroo73> okay
[23:22] <nacc> kangaroo73: also, you're trying to convert enp6s0 to a bridge, right?
[23:22] <kangaroo73> source /etc/network/interfaces.d/*
[23:22] <kangaroo73> right
[23:22] <nacc> kangaroo73: it makes no sense in that configuration to dhcp both of them
[23:23] <kangaroo73> ok
[23:23] <nacc> kangaroo73: do you understand what a network bridge is?
[23:23] <kangaroo73> should I set enp6s0 static?
[23:23] <kangaroo73> I set both to dhcp, 'cause I want both want to get a IP from router
[23:24] <puppto> nacc: seems this worked: dpkg-reconfigure -f noninteractive  grub-pc
[23:24] <nacc> kangaroo73: i feel like you don't understand what a network bridge is
[23:24] <kangaroo73> hmm nacc - I need it for KVM
[23:24] <nacc> kangaroo73: yes, that does not mean you undrestand what it is
[23:24] <kangaroo73> but maybe explain
[23:24] <kangaroo73> :)
[23:25] <tatertots> zzero1: if you cannot manage this network config https://gist.github.com/a97d4643008786172804f9a2322de6b2 then you should probably clean it up
[23:25] <nacc> kangaroo73: first, let's see the /etc/network/interfaces file
[23:25] <nacc> kangaroo73: in a pastebin
[23:25] <kangaroo73> yeah hold on - I'll type in Notepad
[23:26] <nacc> kangaroo73: basically, when converting from a normal network interface to a bridge, you will no longer see an IP on the regular device. Instead the bridge device will get an IP (in the same way as the original iface did) and the bridge will use the old interface as one of it's "ports"
[23:28] <kangaroo73> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24127675/
[23:28] <kangaroo73> that's it
[23:29] <nacc> kangaroo73: i think, you didn't follow the guide correctly
[23:29] <nacc> kangaroo73: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KvmWithBridge
[23:30] <zzero1> tatertots: I have vbox and docker
[23:30] <nacc> kangaroo73: 'Define the bridge interface' section
[23:30] <nacc> kangaroo73: do you see how yours doesn't follow that?
[23:30] <kangaroo73> hmm .. let me look
[23:30] <zzero1> If I remove the libvrt they won't affected ?
[23:31] <zzero1> be
[23:31] <kangaroo73> I have not address netmask
[23:31] <HelloUbuntu> hi, i'm using ubuntu 16.04.2 , i am new. i wanna know how can i change notification settings, they are annoying me while surfing web
[23:31] <kangaroo73> but I'm on dhcp - so it doesn't matter - or not?
[23:32] <nacc> kangaroo73: i don't know what you're asking
[23:32] <HelloUbuntu> they don't go away quickly, and there is no button on them to close them
[23:32] <nacc> kangaroo73: again, i think you're asking the wrong questions
[23:32] <zzero1> tatertots: in the live cd I was able I think to build the bcmwl-kernel-source
[23:32] <kangaroo73> In the guide they're using a "stati-ip-setup"
[23:32] <kangaroo73> (static)
[23:32] <nacc> kangaroo73: yes
[23:32] <kangaroo73> isn't it possible with dhcp?
[23:32] <OerHeks> kangaroo73, i would set static ip for a KVM situation
[23:32] <nacc> kangaroo73: so you can ignore the parts that refer to the static network setup
[23:33] <kangaroo73> okay
[23:33] <nacc> kangaroo73: although it is technically easier to use a static ip
[23:33] <kangaroo73> I'll type in interfaces ...
[23:33] <nacc> kangaroo73: e.g., https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections#Configuring_bridging_in_.2Fetc.2Fnetwork.2Finterfaces
[23:33] <nacc> kangaroo73: your bridge iface can use dhcp
[23:34] <HelloUbuntu> anyone?
[23:36] <OerHeks> HelloUbuntu, no, there is no tool to set timing of notifications in systemsettings
[23:37] <kangaroo73> dns-search mydomain.net
[23:37] <kangaroo73> there ip from router?
[23:37] <nacc> kangaroo73: do you know what DNS is?
[23:37] <OerHeks> HelloUbuntu,  there is  PPA with a tool, but it is a private repo, use at your own risc https://launchpad.net/~leolik/+archive/ubuntu/leolik
[23:37] <HelloUbuntu> OerHeks: no way, how can it be like that? no way to disable them then?
[23:37] <kangaroo73> yep - but don't have dns-server
[23:38] <nacc> kangaroo73: of course you have a DNS server; either a local one run by your router, or you're using a public one.
[23:38] <nacc> kangaroo73: if you didn't, you couldn't resolve hostnames
[23:38] <kangaroo73> ok - so I'm using the router
[23:38] <nacc> kangaroo73: right, but that's for dns-nameservers, *not* dns-search
[23:38] <nacc> kangaroo73: dns-search is the list of domains to search
[23:38] <kangaroo73> so I don't need it?
[23:39] <HelloUbuntu> OerHeks: i think i shouldn't go out of ubuntu repos as it is my main OS and i can't open it to vulnerabilities
[23:40] <HelloUbuntu> OerHeks: no way to disable them? or change their position at least?
[23:40] <nacc> kangaroo73: do you have a domain-name locally?
[23:41] <kangaroo73> I have NGINX on a domain
[23:41] <kangaroo73> but the domain is provider-hosted
[23:41] <nacc> kangaroo73: nginx is unrelated
[23:41] <nacc> kangaroo73: not a website
[23:41] <nacc> kangaroo73: a domain-name. I think the answer is no, so you don't need to provide a dns-search value
[23:42] <kangaroo73> testing new interfaces ....
[23:42] <kangaroo73> to be sure I did reboot
[23:42] <kangaroo73> okay - better
[23:42] <kangaroo73> local ping ok - WAN not
[23:43] <kangaroo73> now I can paste the interfaces .. hold on
[23:43] <kangaroo73> hmm ... no ssh - looking for typo in interfaces ...
[23:44] <kangaroo73> yep typo
[23:45] <kangaroo73> but "service networking restart" doesn't work ... testing reboot again ...
[23:45] <xebra> hi, can anybody tell me what the minimal ubuntu release (mini.iso, ~50MB) contains and if it can be used live?
[23:45] <HelloUbuntu> so anything in ubuntu that could compete the download speed of internet download manager in windows?
[23:46] <nacc> kangaroo73: restarting network while connected to the network ... is not easy
[23:47] <kangaroo73> nacc: Same problem
[23:47] <kangaroo73> br0 & enp6s0 have same IP
[23:47] <OerHeks> HelloUbuntu, maybe ubuntu is faster :-D
[23:47] <kangaroo73> hold on - I'm editing interfaces in notepad ....
[23:48] <Bashing-om> xebra: Contains: Kerenl, means to boot said kernel; minimal services ( apt ),minimum networking . No in this minimalistic environmnet there is no room for the live overhead .
[23:49] <HelloUbuntu> OerHeks: it's not about ubuntu or windows, it's about a download manager which can get better speed while downloading files. firefox is limited in capabilites and also it don't get highest speed in downloading
[23:50] <HelloUbuntu> OerHeks: no doubt ubuntu fetch softwares from repos with very high speeds, but i am looking for a download manager for other files from internet
[23:50] <kangaroo73> thanks for patience ...
[23:50] <kangaroo73> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24127747/
[23:50] <bazhang> !info aria2
[23:50] <nacc> kangaroo73: ok, i really have lost my patience. You are *not* following the guides you are being asked to follow!
[23:50] <nacc> kangaroo73: it's really very simple
[23:51] <OerHeks> HelloUbuntu, some options https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DownloadManager
[23:51] <nacc> kangaroo73:  you are *replacing* your enp6s0 entry with a br0 entry
[23:51] <nacc> kangaroo73: not *adding* one
[23:51] <nacc> kangaroo73: please please read the wiki page agin
[23:51] <kangaroo73> maybe my english isn't good enough - sry ...
[23:51] <nacc> kangaroo73: specifically, note there are two examples listed
[23:51] <nacc> kangaroo73: split by "We edit the file, so it gets the following content:"
[23:51] <bazhang> nacc, you realize that systemd does that now
[23:51] <kangaroo73> will look further inside ...
[23:51] <nacc> bazhang: does what now?
[23:51] <nacc> bazhang: oh the bridging stuff?
[23:52] <bazhang> the enp9s0
[23:52] <nacc> bazhang: ... yes
[23:52] <nacc> bazhang: what does that have to dow ith anything?
[23:52] <HelloUbuntu> OerHeks: thanks, and anyway to bring that side bar to bottom ?
[23:52] <nacc> *do with anything
[23:52] <bazhang> nacc, he need not replace the name
[23:52] <nacc> bazhang: i think you are missing context
[23:52] <nacc> bazhang: he is converting his normal network iface into a bridged setup for guests
[23:53] <OerHeks> HelloUbuntu, no, maybe it is a setting in systemsettings now?
[23:53] <nacc> kangaroo73: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24127761/ is what it should look like
[23:53] <HelloUbuntu> OerHeks: i didn't find any
[23:54] <nacc> kangaroo73: with tabs as appropriate for clarity
[23:54] <nacc> kangaroo73: do you follow the difference?
[23:54] <kangaroo73> okay ...
[23:55] <kangaroo73> but in the guide it looks like eth0 is "activate" (the primary) ...
[23:56] <kangaroo73> edited ... testing ...
[23:56] <nacc> kangaroo73: what?
[23:56] <nacc> kangaroo73: yes, eth0 *was* the interface
[23:57] <nacc> kangaroo73: the are two configs listed in "Define the bridge interface", effectively old and new
[23:57] <kangaroo73>  UUUUUUH
[23:57] <kangaroo73> damn
[23:57] <kangaroo73> now I see it *facepalm*
[23:57] <kangaroo73> sorry man ... I'm too tired for this sh....
[23:58] <kangaroo73> okay - ping works lan & wan
[23:59] <kangaroo73> next step is to bring up my kvm again ...
[23:59] <kangaroo73> let me see - maybe it works again ...