[04:35] <OerHeks> nom nom nom
[04:36] <daftykins> \o
[04:36] <OerHeks> just got a cookie, don t touch  !!
[04:36] <Bashing-om> Just an acknowledgement of " hard to find indeed " . Someone should show some appreciation for all your efforts :P
[04:37] <OerHeks> Thank you Bashing-om :-)
[04:55] <daftykins> progress with the phone systems guys!
[04:55] <daftykins> i got the proper model voice gateway today and now have incoming calls and outgoing calls working
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:59] <daftykins> hello!
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> hey there daftykins
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> all ok?
[05:00] <OerHeks> hi lotus
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> hey OerHeks :p
[05:00] <Bashing-om> Picture of " mad scientist" taking over the island pops up  .
[05:00] <daftykins> yeah not too shabby thanks, been working on my phone system today :D
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> and hi Bashing-om
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> full house here lol
[05:01] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Is back .. means a good day for lotuspsychje ! ( any day that starts here can not be all bad )
[05:02] <OerHeks> Oh it is going to get better today ...
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> lol, 4 days off yihaaa
[05:02] <OerHeks> Vault7 release https://twitter.com/wikileaks
[05:02] <Bashing-om> this I gots to read !
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> me 2
[05:03] <OerHeks> "YearZero in political terms means event so big that u have a complete reset."
[05:03] <OerHeks> :-D
[05:03] <OerHeks> maybe there is no more internet tomorrow ..
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> lolll
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> downloading 500mb year zero
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> lets c whats inside
[05:07] <OerHeks> crack it for us please .. otherwise we must wait untill 9.00 am .. whenever that is
[05:08] <lotuspsychje> oh its encrypted
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> yep needs a pass with 7z
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> http://heavy.com/news/2017/03/what-is-wikileaks-vault-7-photos-clues-theories/
[05:35] <OerHeks> #wikileaks & #vault7 go bonkers, but do not appear in the top 10
[05:36] <daftykins> o0
[05:40] <daftykins> aaah i'm really pleased with this phone setup :)
[05:41] <daftykins> once it's some sane day time hours i can call someone to test it out better :D
[06:15] <Bashing-om> Eyes are crossing - gotta cease and desist, G nite .
[06:55] <ducasse> morning
[06:56] <daftykins> hi sir \o
[06:56] <daftykins> just about to stroll down to the cafe that does an english breakfast :> back shortly
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[07:02] <ducasse> morning lotuspsychje, work today?
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: 4 days off mate :p
[07:05] <ducasse> good for you :) what are you spending them on?
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> a bit working around the house
[07:09] <ducasse> sounds like a plan. i'm rearranging some furniture today, other than that no big plans.
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: always good to have a fresh angle in house
[07:12] <ducasse> i want to put the tb somewhere different, now that spring/summer is coming. i get glare on the screen from light through the windows, which is annoying.
[07:12] <ducasse> *tv
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: we bought some rolling curtains aswell
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> to block sunlight
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> and windows are always annoying lol
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/03/gnome-recipes-app-now-available-install-ubuntu-17-04
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> bbl breakfast
[07:46] <daftykins> mmmm fry-up :D
[07:46] <daftykins> that wasn't too bad for £6 odd
[07:47] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/iuhpmzhjj91orxo/IMG_20170307_060018.jpg?dl=0
[07:47] <ducasse> sounds tempting :)
[07:48] <daftykins> ducasse: got my fancy voice gateway device :>
[07:48] <daftykins> can see it there on top of my switch... now i've got my landline phone # all hooked up to voicemail from FreePBX etc
[07:48] <daftykins> can call out over it from a soft phone on android/Windows
[07:50] <ducasse> nice :) i was thinking of playing with something like that myself, but i have so little need for phone at all. how much did the gateway cost?
[07:50] <daftykins> £35 on ebay
[07:51] <daftykins> yeah, i would normally be the same - but as my internet connection is VDSL2 i'm forced to have the line
[07:51] <daftykins> for my business cards i'd find it more professional to show a landline # than just a mobile, in a way
[07:53] <daftykins> http://imgur.com/a/yxf7L
[07:53] <daftykins> slowly brightening up :)
[07:54] <ducasse> maybe you're right. my isp offers voip, maybe i'll take them up on it :)
[07:55] <daftykins> that's the thing, out of the picture there i've got a handset plugged into the Linksys gateway now too, which can either SIP call or call out over the PSTN line
[07:56] <ducasse> regular landlines are dead to me :)
[07:56] <daftykins> i could either VPN into home when away, or open ports on the router and have myself the ability to call out over the 'net from anywhere in the world at local prices :D
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> hi pp_cz
[07:59] <ducasse> daftykins: that's really nice, if you are away from home a lot.
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: wow at your cables lol
[08:00] <pp_cz> hello there, lotuspsychje
[08:00] <daftykins> ducasse: i just kinda did this as a test, if i could get site-to-site working then it'd be neat to say to my client "hey, how about you have one phone in the Spain place and one in Guernsey, then you can call for free!"
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> pp_cz: welcome in our discuss room
[08:00] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: :D 6 down to the lounge alone :)
[08:01] <pp_cz> lotuspsychje, thank you
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: got a password yet?
[08:04] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: if you think those cables are messy, you should see mine ;)
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: lol
[08:05] <daftykins> :D
[08:05] <daftykins> wasn't too long ago i bought that table to tidy it up ;)
[08:05] <daftykins> it was on the floor before...
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> hi BobbyJr
[08:05] <BobbyJr> Hello
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> !info firefox
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/firefox-52-0-released-as-esr-branch-will-receive-security-updates-until-2018-513620.shtml
[08:07] <daftykins> still on 51.0.1 here in Windows land, so it might be early yet :>
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[08:10] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:11] <daftykins> hey \o
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> hey there lordievader
[08:13] <lordievader> Hey daftykins and lotuspsychje
[08:13] <lordievader> How are you two?
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> great here tnx
[08:14] <daftykins> good cheers yep :) and you?
[08:15] <lordievader> Coffee is in the making ;)
[08:15] <daftykins> that's what i like to hear!
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> with a piece of fudge :p
[08:16] <daftykins> :D
[08:16] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: you must be all out by now? :)
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> yep im broke :p
[08:16] <daftykins> d'aww
[08:21] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: you don't have fudge in .be? ;)
[08:21] <daftykins> i was shocked when he said he'd never had any, made me post him a Guernsey sample immediately!
[08:23] <ducasse> i see :) so, all they have is chocolate?
[08:23] <lordievader> Chocolate and beer, what more do you want?
[08:23]  * lordievader slides everyone a cup of coffee
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> belgium is all chocolats and wafles indeed
[08:24] <ducasse> well, lotus obviously wants fudge :)
[08:24] <daftykins> ooh ty \o/
[08:24]  * daftykins handles the steaming mug with a Tux oven glove
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:26] <daftykins> i'm kidding... i wish i had a Tux oven glove
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: think most ppl need this one lol : http://media.techeblog.com/images/facebook_like_button.jpg
[08:31] <ducasse> that's just perverse
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> haha
[08:31] <daftykins> :D
[08:31] <daftykins> hey it's double-featured too, as you can simply rotate it 180 degrees when your meal is terrible
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> lol
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> bbl guys have a nice one
[08:38] <daftykins> i'm just gonna put this link here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kvT40umKL8
[08:38] <lordievader> O god, that is just torment.
[08:41] <ducasse> yeah, that was *bound* to work well!
[08:43] <daftykins> you say that, but there are volunteers who kept insisting such an age machine was still fine for use
[08:43] <daftykins> even with 512MB RAM that would be the same painful venture :)
[08:44] <ducasse> expecting to run videos from youtube on such an old machine is idiocy.
[08:50] <daftykins> i think even having the OS on is mad :D
[08:51] <ducasse> if it's 17 years old, absolutely.
[08:53] <daftykins> https://youtu.be/Cb-srOfRqNc wow this is bad
[08:55] <ducasse> hilarious!
[08:57] <ducasse> so many artifacts, great for epileptics...
[09:00] <daftykins> blows my mind that they're trying to claim dead or stuck pixels are normal and that users can't return them
[09:02] <ducasse> what?! that's insane, can they even get away with that under law?
[09:02] <ducasse> just got there...
[09:02] <daftykins> sure hope not
[09:02] <daftykins> after enough people get it and make a fuss, they'll change their minds i'm sure
[09:02] <daftykins> apparently they did the same with the 3DS
[09:08] <ducasse> i wasn't getting one before but i'm _definitely_ not getting one now.
[09:08] <daftykins> *nod*
[09:09] <ducasse> when a company goes straight out and says they're screwing customers, i kind of lose interest...
[09:17] <ducasse> btw daftykins, what kind of gateway did you get, exactly? would be good to know what to look for if i suddenly decide i need voip.
[09:21] <daftykins> Linksys SPA3102 - but i only required that model for the PSTN line socket for my real landline
[09:22] <daftykins> if you wanted an ATA which lets you plug normal handsets into a box and turns them into SIP phones, the first one i got would be more appropriate - that's a Linksys PAP2T
[09:22] <daftykins> picked that up for £14 on ebay :>
[09:25] <ducasse> that's pretty cheap :) i'll have to think about what makes most sense, a physical landline is most likely something i don't need.
[09:28] <ducasse> are you familiar with the older thinkpads? t420 etc?
[09:34] <daftykins> nah never looked into them
[09:34] <daftykins> i know a guy who's not awake right now but who knows a lot about them though
[09:35] <ducasse> i remember someone mentioning they were good, stable linux machines, and i can get one pretty cheap.
[09:35] <daftykins> yeah, does seem to be a lot of folks' opinions, probably depends on model for the most part
[09:36] <daftykins> are you thinking of doing more stuff on the go, or just prefer laptops?
[09:37] <ducasse> the laptop i have now is a pos, and i need _something_ for bringing with me when i'm out. i've started helping a local charity with it stuff, and need a machine of my own for tracking down issues etc.
[09:38] <daftykins> ah very good
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
[12:45] <daftykins> wb \o
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: still playing with the voip :p
[12:46] <daftykins> nah :D been all solidly working since this morning!
[12:46] <daftykins> other than making an amusing voicemail message i think i'm set
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> nice nice
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: now you can do some business support calls free?
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: or you have another purpose?
[12:47] <daftykins> well nah it's only set up with my landline right now so that would cost clients to call, but if i did set things up for remote access then i could almost install a red SIP phone at a clients and call it their batphone!
[12:47] <daftykins> only it'd be to me and not Batman ;D
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:48] <ducasse> daftykins: get a batsuit ;)
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> jingle bells, batman smells
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> robin lays an egg
[12:49] <daftykins> i think Mischief already has one on!
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: !!! got a passphrase yet?
[12:51] <daftykins> secret? :O
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks pointed us to the nex vault7 wikileaks file
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> *new
[12:52] <daftykins> oh yessss
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> but its encrypted
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> !zesty
[12:59] <daftykins> and so comes the end of the alphabet
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> new lts to bug out heavyly
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> one month to go
[13:00] <daftykins> hmm? no LTS 'til 18.04 surely
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> oh right
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: can you still join #ubuntu+1 ?
[13:03] <daftykins> think so
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> i got in guys
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> passphrase= SplinterItIntoAThousandPiecesAndScatterItIntoTheWinds
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> https://twitter.com/wikileaks
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> now lets c whats inside OerHeks :p
[13:20] <daftykins> it's Drabber chasing a lady dog
[13:20] <daftykins> 8D
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> looks like a huge fbi/cia exploit database
[13:28] <daftykins> time for me to head off, later all \o
[13:29] <lotuspsychje> laters mate
[14:12] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: check this out: https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/#PRESS
[14:13] <EriC^^> checking
[14:14] <EriC^^> hmm firefox won't open nor chrome wth
[14:14] <EriC^^> i hope i didn't mess the pc up, i was trying something out
[14:14] <EriC^^> let me reboot
[14:15] <ducasse> EriC^^: you've been pwned by the nsa! ;)
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> lolll
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> nsa skype is old news ducasse :p
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> prism rip, vault7 born
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> wb
[14:24] <EriC^^> all good now
[14:24] <EriC^^> thanks
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: join the squoo.sh
[14:24] <EriC^^> what's the link again? it's not showing in the logs above even
[14:24] <EriC^^> (had to run fsck to fix the install)
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> check your invite
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/#PRESS
[14:37] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: what's the link again?
[14:38] <ducasse>  https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/#PRESS
[14:38] <EriC^^> ducasse: thanks
[14:40] <EriC^^> damn, we have a samsung tv
[14:41] <EriC^^> so we should be expecting a flood of 0day patches now eh? :D
[14:41] <ducasse> mine has no smart crap, and if i ever get one that does it will never be connected to a network...
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: crazy isnt it?
[14:42] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: yeah it is
[14:43] <EriC^^> it's not shocking though, pretty expected they'd have all that stuff
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> i think after PRISM, its rather big reveal
[14:44] <ducasse> _that's_ what's shocking, that this is expected and doesn't upset people. c'mon, this is _insane_!
[14:46] <EriC^^> heh they have a bunch of stuff about uefi
[14:47] <EriC^^> maybe some day we'll wake up in a cell with lights
[14:47] <EriC^^> and the guys from here are there, and they're like 'can you get our uefi install working?'
[14:47] <ducasse> or in a pod full of embryonic fluid, connected to cables ;)
[14:48] <EriC^^> we should decide from now on a word we'll say before we head for the door together
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: checkout that HIVE technique, about linux
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/files/UsersGuide.pdf
[14:49] <EriC^^> ducasse: it is insane, and unethical, but it's the cia, if they did the iran 0day virus thing sure they'd have stuff like this going on
[14:50] <EriC^^> the scary part is what else do they have, this is the tip of the iceberg i'd think
[14:50] <EriC^^> this is basically just stuff some hackers were able to get and has been circulating in the black market for a while, they probably have insane stuff somewhere very hard to get access to
[14:50] <ducasse> also, this is the cia, not the nsa.
[14:50] <EriC^^> holy uefi heaven
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:51] <EriC^^> https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/files/UEFI%202_5.pdf
[14:51] <EriC^^> 2600 page pdf
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> that will take some time to read oO
[14:52] <EriC^^> they've hacked the shit out of uefi
[14:52] <EriC^^> flash unlocks and payloads to the firmware and some crazy ass stuff
[14:53] <EriC^^> xD
[14:53] <EriC^^> yeah i saw the size and thought "i didn't really like uefi THAT much really"
[14:53] <EriC^^> haha
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:54] <EriC^^> anyways this is good for the general public, lots of cool stuff might come out of these
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: keep refreshing their twitter, its insane
[14:54] <EriC^^> that guy from wikileaks has some balls
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> zero day flaws on android and IOs
[14:55] <EriC^^> i think he was last in some embassy living like 3 years inside it cause they want him so badly
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> its payback time for him
[14:55] <ducasse> nicaraguan one in london, i think.
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> snowden still in russia
[14:56] <EriC^^> lol, at least they have a sense of humor about it https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_21561431.html
[14:56] <EriC^^> or is that a wikileaks under construction picture?
[14:58] <ducasse> hehe, trump is going to go crazy over this leak :)
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: lol
[15:02] <ducasse> it will be interesting to see just how many press outfits will dare to take this on.
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> this is world news ducasse
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> by tomorrow, the whole net will have articles
[15:04] <ducasse> i know, but for how long will there be interest?
[15:06] <ducasse> maybe i'm too pessimistic. i just wonder if the general public will care much, and if big media will push down their throats why they absolutely should.
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> its got too big to ignore
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: but im sure many ppl will not care even
[15:07] <ducasse> snowden was too big to ignore, but the vast majority of people did.
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> true
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: but then, all those who do care, is an improvement for humanity
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> the other 75% still sleeping on their smartphones :p
[15:10] <ducasse> http://www.moviefanatic.com/quotes/wanting-people-to-listen-you-cant-just-tap-them-on-the-shoulder/
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:11] <ducasse> in my opinion snowden was that sledgehammer, but it seems not.
[15:11] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: hive is a trojan?
[15:12] <ducasse> looks like an exploit platform or something
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: think its like a centralized app yeah
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> something like metasploit
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> the whole vault has tons of techniques
[15:15] <ducasse> "yeah, guys, _of course_ you need all this to fight terr'ism"
[15:15] <EriC^^> i love how their tutorials and how-to's are so concise and to the point
[15:16] <EriC^^> looking at this one under "linux" https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_16384684.html
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> ssh
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> HIVE is a multi-platform CIA malware suite and its associated control software. The project provides customizable implants for Windows, Solaris, MikroTik (used in internet routers) and Linux platforms and a Listening Post (LP)/Command and Control (C2) infrastructure to communicate with these implants.
[15:22] <Wirehunter> Does it come with Ubuntu by default? :P
[15:23] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:23] <EriC^^> ubuntu 007-edition
[15:23] <Wirehunter> sudo apt remove hive
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> the ubuntu-hardened guys will have a lot of work again
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks will have a lot to read when he comes home
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> cool how that smarttv stuff is handled https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_12353643.html
[15:38] <EriC^^> there's using some cool tool for data recovery to show how it's better to securedelete a file i wonder what it is
[15:38] <EriC^^> https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/files/image2015-5-6%2014:40:34.png
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[15:39] <EriC^^> "Some say i'm a dreamer, but i am not.."
[15:39] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: under wich category did you find that
[15:40] <EriC^^> their mindset is pretty funny, they think they're doing "cool stuff" and they have every right
[15:41] <ducasse> the us has zero qualms about kidnapping people in sovereign nations, after all, so why care about spying on them?
[15:41] <EriC^^> they say stuff like "while obfuscating stuff, if it's 'too cool for school' then make sure it's been obfuscated and won't be readable by malicious software detectors"
[15:42] <EriC^^> "we're doing cool stuff here, we don't want to get caught on something silly"
[15:42] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: it was under "forensics"
[15:43] <ducasse> techs often think like that, sadly. common among people who work for spammers etc.
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: spying on people, in their eyes is to control and gather powers
[15:45] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: i know, i'm just saying they think they can do as they please because nobody can stand up to them. they're in for a rude awakening in the next ten-twenty years.
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> so true
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> at least the linux guys are comming for them :p
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> hacking the hackers lol
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> brb doing dishes
[15:57] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: ducasse did you guys see the research mit did on the vibrations from chips bag and such?
[15:57] <ducasse> EriC^^: no?
[15:58] <EriC^^> ducasse: they wrote an algorithm that converts vibrations off of random objects in the room to sound, like in the movie eagle eye, when the supercomputer knows what they're saying from the waves in the coffee cup
[15:58] <EriC^^> it's the same thing, except they did it using a bag of chips, and a plant i think
[15:59] <nacc> that was a while backc, right?
[15:59] <EriC^^> it's pretty freaking crazy, the sound is audible and you can make out what they're saying, anyways it's also been used with keyboards, apparently the key stroke of every key in the laptop is slightly different than the others
[15:59] <EriC^^> yeah i tis
[15:59] <nacc> yeah, it's nuts
[15:59] <EriC^^> so they can use a plant in the room to figure out the password somebody writes on his keyboard from the sound of the keys
[15:59] <ducasse> the keyboard thing i knew about, but not this.
[16:00]  * ducasse is sad now :(
[16:00] <EriC^^> there's also a pretty crazy invention i saw
[16:01] <EriC^^> inner speech usually lets the larynx have tiny movements
[16:01] <EriC^^> so when you usually say something in your head, the larynx actually moves ever so slightly
[16:02] <OerHeks> careful with your hdd-led, too!
[16:02] <EriC^^> they made a band you place around your neck, which can pick up on these muscle movements and it says what you're thinking
[16:02] <EriC^^> it's supposed to be a "hands-free, talking-free" cellphone of the future
[16:02] <EriC^^> lol
[16:02] <nacc> yes, because it's a short-circuit in the brain
[16:03] <EriC^^> like you just say the stuff in your head, and it sends them to whoever you're talking on the phone with
[16:03] <EriC^^> xD
[16:03] <nacc> yeah, the problem is it says stuff you aren't yet saying
[16:03] <nacc> pre-speech :)
[16:03] <EriC^^> "honey are you still at work?" - "shit i have to lie" - "what?" xD
[16:04] <ducasse> that's bound to go down well :)
[16:04] <EriC^^> if they make the receiver super super better
[16:04] <EriC^^> they could possibly make a device that you point at someone, and know what they're saying
[16:05] <EriC^^> that'd be pretty nuts as a spying tool
[16:05] <EriC^^> like mel gibson's movie when he can tell what women are thinking xD
[16:06] <EriC^^> take it to dates with you, and *bam*
[16:06] <nacc> we would have known aobut his anti-Semitism much earlier :)
[16:07] <EriC^^> lol
[16:12] <ducasse> i can't take mel gibson seriously after south park finished with him :)
[16:13] <nacc> ducasse: s/after.*//
[16:13] <ducasse> :)
[16:17] <EriC^^> it just hit me these cia/nsa guys could easily be in freenode, a lot of their material comes from stackoverflow and places like that
[16:18] <EriC^^> https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/page_14588102.html
[16:20] <ducasse> "Handles are being stolen, files are being corrupted, its all good! ... We were trashing data.  It was awesome."
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> articles are starting to spread mainstream https://twitter.com/wikileaks
[16:25] <EriC^^> lol they made a gif for kicks and giggles https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/files/makeitrain.gif
[16:25] <OerHeks> This is all planned, wikileaks = trump
[16:26] <ducasse> "notably absent is any reference to extremists or transnational criminals"
[16:30] <OerHeks> Does anyone of you, opened the file itself?....
[16:30] <OerHeks> time to reinstall :-D
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: me
[16:31] <ducasse> i didn't even grab the .torrent :)
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: it holds same stuff thats online now
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> html links to browser
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/839154582970335232
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: ive read snapd can be installed on 14.04 now, would that let users install libreoffice for 14.04 or latest libreoffice?
[18:22] <ducasse> latest, in theory.
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> that could be interesting right
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> running isolated snaps on an older ubuntu version without ppa conflicts?
[18:23] <OerHeks> that is the beauty of snap
[18:25] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: have you tried searching the snap index for 'test' or 'hello world' snaps?
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: no, why?
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> big list already woot
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@RooTBooK:~$ snap find libreoffice
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> Name         Version  Developer  Notes  Summary
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> libreoffice  5.3.0.3  canonical  -      LibreOffice is a powerful office suite including word processing and creation of spreadsheets, slideshows and databases
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> !info libreoffice xenial
[18:27] <lotuspsychje> pretty nice
[18:31] <EriC^^> OerHeks: how often do you have to take the dog to the vet
[18:31] <EriC^^> ?
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> drabber sick?
[18:32] <EriC^^> no i'm wondering about getting a dog
[18:32] <OerHeks> EriC^^, once a year, april prefferably, 1 big cocktail shot any 3 years=€122, and the other years small =€65
[18:33] <OerHeks> and i do his nails myself, else you need to go any 2 months @ €7,50
[18:33] <EriC^^> OerHeks: do you have to do the worm cleaning stuff?
[18:33] <OerHeks> 3 dogs, ²7,50 .. and toe clipper costs €10 :-D
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> and every day doggy walk
[18:34] <OerHeks> EriC^^, yes, besides vet visit, i do flee dups any month, and wurms any 2 months.
[18:34] <EriC^^> oh ok
[18:34] <OerHeks> flee drups = €20 / 4 months, anti wurmy stuff =€15
[18:34] <EriC^^> the flee dups and worms, you can do them from home? like it's a product you buy?
[18:35] <OerHeks> so besides his €8 on food, i pay about  €8 for treatment stuff
[18:35] <OerHeks> yes, local pet shop
[18:35] <EriC^^> oh ok awesome, thanks!
[18:35]  * ducasse is glad to hear drabber is well cared for
[18:36] <OerHeks> but Drabber eats small portions, so a big dog might be more expensive, larger flee drups and such
[18:36] <ducasse> !cookie | OerHeks
[18:36] <EriC^^> just have to sort of convince my grandma still
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:36] <OerHeks> and if you don't give him humanoid cookies, and foood with salt/sugar, you don't need the dentist :-D
[18:37] <EriC^^> it's tricky, she doesn't like dogs but i'm sure if we get a very tiny infant one she'll like him/her
[18:37] <OerHeks> Choose a girl .. much cleaner
[18:38] <ducasse> EriC^^: or get a big rottweiler that will just eat grandma ;)
[18:38] <EriC^^> OerHeks: how so?
[18:38] <OerHeks> only yes, 2x a year she can get puppies
[18:38] <OerHeks> Girls are cleaner, more attention to the owner.
[18:38] <ducasse> is that true for any breed?
[18:39] <OerHeks> oh, if you have horses ..
[18:39] <OerHeks> .. you don get flees :-D
[18:39] <OerHeks> funny factoid, but it is true.
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: this something for you? http://img.funnytab.net/gallery/misc/Killer_Dog.jpg
[18:40] <EriC^^> lotuspsychje: lol that's the one
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[18:40] <EriC^^> i can sneak him in my jeans pocket til she gets used to the idea
[18:40] <EriC^^> i'll just have to pretend to have a bad cold for a while
[18:40] <OerHeks> ducasse, drabber is not just a dog, he is a helping dog too ( he can break my ptss downs)
[18:40] <OerHeks> so if €80 food is better for him, i would buy it.
[18:41] <ducasse> OerHeks: my point was just that far too many don't care for their dogs at all
[18:42] <OerHeks> EriC^^, about food: check expensive food ingredients against 'cheap' brands, there is almost no difference, just the smell for the owner. dog wants dirty anyway
[18:42] <OerHeks> ducasse, true, most of the times they don't listen to the dog.
[18:42] <EriC^^> i read that dogs are so accustomed to humans, that an infant dog is like a baby human and learns human gestures and stuff, like they are able to get even an eye movement what it means by the owner
[18:43] <EriC^^> pretty nuts that evolution of dogs and human breeding of them changed them in such a short time
[18:43] <OerHeks> EriC^^, true, drabber knows perfectly how to get attention. but he won't fake it.
[18:43] <OerHeks> dogś don't lie
[18:43] <OerHeks> oke, they borrow food from other dogs ...
[18:56] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: careful with CrazyTux/CrazyPenguin, he's notorious for wasting our time by asking the same dumb questions over and over and...
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: yeah rings a bell
[18:56] <nacc> indeed
[18:58] <ducasse> told him earlier today that others reported problems with that chipset but i couldn't find a definitive fix, now he's back and "waiting for solution"
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/839187025794301952
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:07] <OerHeks> That is why i keep logs, http://pastebin.com/raw/5fRwumGa
[19:08] <OerHeks> 🎶lonely people
[19:08] <ducasse> ...and now try CrazyPenguin as well...
[19:09] <OerHeks> same person?
[19:10] <ducasse> yep
[19:11] <OerHeks> oh i see, same intel 5500 ..
[19:12] <OerHeks> same skills tell me wikileaks = trump :-D
[19:12]  * OerHeks makes coffee
[19:12]  * ducasse offers OerHeks tea instead, it's late
[19:13] <nacc> still before noon here!
[19:13]  * nacc runs to the kitchen
[19:26] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: you still digging through the stink-pile of docs?
[20:29] <ducasse> OerHeks: geez, that got my pulse up :)
[20:30] <OerHeks> :-D
[20:30] <OerHeks> >> MediocreN, CrazyTux is a daily guest, he is playing with you
[20:31] <ducasse> i saw it. did you see "21:26 <CrazyTux> is Mate better and more advanced than Xubuntu?" ?
[20:32] <ducasse> how many times is he going to ask this, install one desktop, remove another, reinstall a third time and complain that stuff breaks?
[20:33] <OerHeks> intel 5500 .. should work fine. or he is impatient something..
[20:33] <ducasse> either he's trolling, or he is unusually thick. the worst is the constant skipping between channels and repeating questions.
[20:34] <ducasse> he must think we're lying to him.
[20:34] <OerHeks> it happens in linux and debian channels too..
[20:34] <ducasse> yes, i've noticed.
[20:35] <OerHeks> Though it is good to investigate, his questions hide knowledge
[20:35] <ducasse> he's wasting people's time.
[20:36] <ducasse> it's ok to asl, but don't ask the same question a hundred times in several different channels.
[20:36] <ducasse> *ask
[20:36] <OerHeks> Lets see, how many servers and desktops i have wrecked with my support ...
[20:37] <OerHeks> 1 every month, that would be 96 \0/
[20:38] <ducasse> eh, they get what they pay for ;-)
[20:56] <ducasse> greetings, Bashing-om !
[20:58] <Bashing-om> Good day ducasse . Getting settled in .. see what the day brings .
[21:05] <ducasse> Bashing-om: i'll soon be signing off, had enough fun for one day :)
[21:09] <Bashing-om> ducasse: " had enough fun for one day " seems to happen on a regular basis around here . I try and hand it back to you in the same shape you left ( all squared away and running ) .
[21:22] <ducasse> Bashing-om: ah, a guy with mysql problems after upgrade - that's my cue to leave :)
[21:22] <ducasse> sleepytime.
[21:23] <OerHeks> :-)