[13:23] <ricotz> rtg, hi, I noticed the "Ubuntu-hwe-edge-4.10.0-9.11_16.04.2" tag but afaics there is no uploaded package
[13:24] <rtg> ricotz, it is still in the CKT PPA
[13:24] <rtg> ppa:canonical-kernel-team/ppa
[13:24] <ricotz> rtg, hmm, no it isnt, that is why I am asking ;)
[13:25] <ricotz> sorry, wrong tag, I meant "Ubuntu-lts-4.10.0-11.13_16.04.1"
[13:25] <ricotz> https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel/ubuntu/+source/linux/+git/xenial/log/?h=hwe-edge
[13:28] <rtg> ricotz, hwe-edge tracks the kernel that is in the Zesty release pocket. I won't upload again until the next Zesty kernel in proposed is promoted. In the meantime I'm getting the current hwe-edge kernel reviewd and (hopefully soon) promoted to the Xenial archive
[13:30] <ricotz> rtg, I see, so despite it was tagged there was no actual upload?
[13:30] <rtg> ricotz, nope, I was probably on autopilot at the time
[13:31] <ricotz> rtg, ok
[17:34] <ad-n770> good morning, I'm reading at zesty release notes (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseNotes) that kernel 4.9 is referred but seems that master branch at git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-zesty does build kernel 4.10.0
[17:35] <apw> ad-n770, that would have been for a beta or something, it is going to be a 4.10
[17:35] <apw> the release notes are a live thing as we move through the varous phases
[17:35] <ad-n770> that's good
[17:36] <ad-n770> I'd would like to use 4.10 earlier in some ubuntu 16.04 systems, I mean before 16.04.3 hwe 
[17:37] <ad-n770> there's any trick to install the zesty kernels into 16.04 systems that I could use ?
[17:37] <ad-n770> or I should build my own package under 16.04 instead ?
[17:38] <rtg> ad-n770, there is an hwe-edge kernel at ppa:canonical-kernel-team/ppa that is v4.10 based
[17:44] <ad-n770> mmm, given that I'm going to push this kernel package in some production systems I think that I want to have a much tighter control on the what is exactly installed
[17:45] <ad-n770> so probably I will go by building the kernel myself
[17:45] <ad-n770> should be enough to build from git in 16.04 or do you tend to add extra patches for hwe kernels ?
[17:47] <rtg> ad-n770, the only changes to hwe kernels is usually related to packaging
[17:47] <apw> ad-n770, it is mostly just has the right depends for the older release, that one might have a revert or two for toolchain differences
[17:47] <ad-n770> understood, thanks a lot for the information 
[19:34] <rellis> kamal et al. Just wanted to let you guys know we've had the test aws kernel with 3.2.2 ixgbevf and 1.1.2 ena drivers and haven't had any issues  so far
[19:35] <rellis> we have the test kernel on some r4's (use ena driver) and c3's (uses ixgbevf).. probably 10-15 hosts total now
[19:36] <kamal> rellis, excellent, thanks very much for the feedback on that
[19:37] <rellis> for sure, thanks very much for making the test version available in your ppa. also please don't take it away because i have a bunch of machines using it :)
[19:37] <rellis> any idea when i might need to look to move from your ppa back over to the mainline linux-aws ?
[19:40] <kamal> rellis, the switch to ixgbevf-3.2.2-k is still "under consideration", so honestly no I can't give any kind of projection there
[19:40] <rellis> okay cool
[19:40] <rellis> just thought id ask
[19:44] <ad-n770> I'm not sure if I understand correctly the new rolling policy https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/RollingLTSEnablementStack
[19:45] <ad-n770> does it mean that at 17.04 time the 16.04 repository will have -ga 4.4 -hwe 4.8 and -hwe-edge 4.10 ?
[19:54] <ad-n770> or 4.10 will be only available for 16.04 about three months later for 16.04.3 release ?
[19:57] <apw> ad-n770, i believe it means both, that -hwe-edge will be 4.10 at 17.04 release, and -hwe will be 4.10 at .3
[19:57] <ad-n770> good
[19:58] <ad-n770> mmm, then maybe I only need to wait a couple of months to get 4.10 availability in Ubuntu 16.04