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dal_Having a lot of trouble getting cairo-dock/glx-dock to do what I want to do - I like everything about the quick browser plugin other than that if I click on a directory in it it opens that directory in gwenview (?) and if I click a video file it launches in smplayer. These associations don't line up with my current desktop environment or any other currently installed on my machine and there's no mention of either application in the13:32
dal_.conf files for the quick browser plugin or cairo-dock as a whole under ~/.config. Is anyone able to give me an idea where cairo-dock might be getting these associations from?13:32
naccdal_: wrong channel?15:51
dal_what's the right one?15:58
dal_cairo-dock is in the ubuntu repositories, that's where I got it from15:58
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cpaelzerI think I'm the one that has to pull up the cheat sheet today16:00
* cpaelzer opening KB16:00
powersjyar16:00
cpaelzer#startmeeting ubuntu-server-team16:01
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Mar  7 16:01:45 2017 UTC.  The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:01
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cpaelzerok, seo helle overybody - lets start as usual with16:02
rharpero/16:02
cpaelzer#topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting16:02
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caribou\o16:02
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cpaelzerfirst was "ACTION: nacc to ping release team on removing src:postgresql-9.6 and src:php7.1"16:02
cpaelzernacc: I know about one of them16:02
cpaelzercould you elaborate on both?16:02
naccboth are done16:03
cpaelzeryay16:03
smosero/16:03
naccwell, the first by migrating postgresql-9.6 in16:03
naccso 'done', albeit differently than the action ;)16:03
cpaelzerok, so the next one would be powersj16:04
cpaelzerACTION: powersj to see about getting the lxd team onto torkoal16:04
powersjdone16:04
cpaelzeryay#216:04
powersjstgraber helped clean things up16:04
cpaelzerI remember16:04
jgrimmany idea how it got so borked up?16:04
cpaelzerpowersj: do we already have an understanding how it could happen?16:04
jgrimm:)16:04
powersjjumping between versions of lxd and not cleaning everything up16:05
cpaelzerI happen to know that it can break without that16:05
cpaelzerbut16:05
powersjtrue :)16:05
cpaelzerI'm fine to ait until it happens16:05
cpaelzer"wait" rather16:05
powersjand we did see that one failure, and then it went away16:05
cpaelzerok, thank you powersj16:05
cpaelzerfor now all are unblocked and the action is done16:05
cpaelzernumber 3: ACTION: rbasak, powersj, cpaelzer to draft mysql triage response page like nginx has16:06
cpaelzerI did nothing, did anybody start on that?16:06
powersjnope... sorry16:06
cpaelzerrbasak: ?16:06
cpaelzerlets take that as a no and keep the action for next week as well16:07
cpaelzer#ACTION: rbasak, powersj, cpaelzer to draft mysql triage response page like nginx has16:07
meetingologyACTION: : rbasak, powersj, cpaelzer to draft mysql triage response page like nginx has16:07
rbasakI haven't started on it, sorry. Please carry forward.16:07
cpaelzer#topic Zesty Development16:07
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cpaelzer#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/ReleaseSchedule16:07
cpaelzeranything general before we go to blueprint and bugs?16:08
jgrimmi don't have anything16:08
cpaelzer... well I have :-)16:08
jgrimmgo for it16:08
cpaelzerfyi - if you happen to be blocked on ppc based test verification fails based on encryption16:08
cpaelzer(as I was)16:08
cpaelzerconsider checking if it could be the following bug16:08
cpaelzer#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/167031116:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1666483 in linux (Ubuntu Zesty) "duplicate for #1670311 ecryptfs fails to load block cipher on ppc64el " [Undecided,Fix committed]16:09
cpaelzerTL;DR various crypto options fail with current 4.10 kernel16:09
cpaelzerbut fix is known and enqueued16:09
jgrimminteresting. thanks16:09
cpaelzerso no need to bother the kernel Team more than I already did16:09
cpaelzerbtw kernel Team, pinging smb for later16:10
cpaelzer#subtopic blueprints16:10
cpaelzer#https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-z-server-core16:10
cpaelzer#link #https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-z-server-core16:10
cpaelzerI saw some updates there16:11
cpaelzer#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-z-server-core16:11
cpaelzerany of those calls should do :-/16:11
cpaelzeris there anything big outstanding that one wants to discuss?16:11
rbasakRemember to keep up the meetingology commentary to save writing minutes later.16:11
cpaelzerI take this as a no, and will go on16:11
cpaelzerthanks, true16:12
cpaelzer#info blueprint looks good, no active major items outstanding16:12
jgrimmindeed, very happy with how much we got done this cycle. and jumping on it early16:13
cpaelzer#info cpaelzer gave an FYI on a ppc64el crypto bug in 4.10 that might block dep8 tests16:13
cpaelzer#subtopic Release Bugs16:13
cpaelzer#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-z-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server16:13
cpaelzerI can say that I submitted a pack of new versions - DPDK (Stable release), New Qemu (CVE/Log fix), Libvirt (device format, apparmor for virt-manager)16:13
cpaelzeranything on the list of open issues you want to go into?16:13
cpaelzerany majore bvugfix uploads to zesty happened last week?16:14
cpaelzerwow typo-master 200016:14
cpaelzerI heard rharper and smoser talk about bug 1670481 yesterday16:15
ubottuError: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1670481 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1670481). The error has been logged16:15
cpaelzerwhich is on that list16:15
cpaelzerI triaged and started the discussion with IBM16:15
cpaelzerbut I think it might be an SRU deadlock16:15
rharpercpaelzer: +116:15
cpaelzereither it is important enough to be an SRU, but then it changes behaviour and does not qualify16:15
cpaelzeror not ...16:15
jgrimmhas upstream accepted it?16:15
rharperI don't think so16:15
cpaelzerupstream accepted16:15
rharperit's just a patch at this point16:15
rharperreally?16:15
cpaelzerit is in 2.916:15
* rharper goes home16:16
cpaelzerso we have forward order up to qemu 2.416:16
jgrimmok, i was going to be -1 if it wasn't upstream16:16
cpaelzer2.5-2.8 reverse16:16
cpaelzerand then forward again16:16
rharperwell, let's just say that the churn will hopefully encourage folks to not rely on it16:16
cpaelzerthat for sure16:16
cpaelzerand I'm ok pulling into zesty (as a pre-2.9)16:16
cpaelzerbut SRU they have to be pretty convincing16:17
cpaelzernot yet16:17
rharperright16:17
jgrimmack16:17
cpaelzer#info cpaelzer elaborated on the pro/con of bug 167048116:17
ubottuError: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1670481 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1670481). The error has been logged16:17
cpaelzer#info no other "big issues" on there for now16:17
cpaelzer#info zesty fix uploads to dpdk, qemu, libvirt last week16:18
jgrimmwas is that lookup failing?16:18
cpaelzeranything else?16:18
jgrimmubottu you are failing us16:18
ubottujgrimm: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:18
cpaelzerjgrimm: sometimes it fails16:18
jgrimm:)16:18
cpaelzer#topic Server & Cloud Bugs & SRU/Pending Uploads (caribou)16:18
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cpaelzercaribou: your time16:19
cpaelzer#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-x-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server16:19
caribouHere are the SRU we're looking ata :16:19
caribou#info STS SRU are pending for :sssd, gtk+3.0, nfs-utils, multipath-tools, sosreport, tftp-hpa16:19
cpaelzerthanks, I also sponsored a libvirt (trusty) one from STS16:19
cpaelzeralso nacc you might be happy to hear that I tested and finally sponsored that azure fix into xenial16:20
rbasakI've just been looking at tftp-hpa for you caribou, but I started with wanting a git tree to do diffs and the import is failing. I'm currently in that rabbithole :)16:20
cpaelzerwaiting for the SRU tema16:20
nacccpaelzer: ah excellent! Odd_Bloke will be happy :)16:20
Odd_Bloke\o/16:20
cpaelzeranything else for caribou or in-Release SRUs ?16:21
caribourbasak: good thanks. why don't you diff the src pkg ?16:21
cpaelzer#info rbasak looking into tftp-hpa currently, but git import is blocked16:22
rbasakcaribou: I can do that, sure. But then I have to fetch things I want to diff against piecemeal. Using git everything is easier :-)16:22
rbasakIf I can't fix it soon, then sure I'll do it by hand.16:22
caribourbasak: indeed16:22
cpaelzerok, moving on to powersj then16:22
cpaelzer#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (powersj)16:22
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cpaelzer#link https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/16:23
powersjDebug lots of test failures last week, bit of curtin vmtest development for daily tests, and got test systems back to sane status. All tests were green over the weekend. Trusty ppc64el ISO testing is also now functional.16:23
powersjIf I get access to staging.launchpad.net I want to work on auto landing for curtin and cloud-init. Untill then I have a few jenkins test related items I need to clean up, look into cloud-init to understand more about how setup.py is setup, as well as triage today and some bug work.16:23
powersjAnd as of yesterday, we finally have cloud-init ci tests up and running again \o/16:23
cpaelzerpowersj: gz16:23
cpaelzerpowersj: was the debugging to debug the tests or test-env, or into issues they uncovered?16:24
jgrimmpowersj, \o/16:24
powersjcpaelzer: mix of both, we had the lxd issues, which I filed two bugs against lxd and got fixes for, but also the system getting borked16:24
cpaelzerok powersj16:25
powersjplus downreving lxd found some issues with our curtin vmtest daily job, so had to fix those up withsmoser16:25
cpaelzergetting better every time16:25
powersjyes time to go break more stuff then and write more tests ;)16:25
jgrimmit should also be noted that the ppc64el ISO testing is Not Yet gating.  That is next.16:25
cpaelzerfyi I also experimented with avocado a bit (qemu testing) but that is unessesarily complex for what you want to do16:26
cpaelzerso not jumping on it right now16:26
powersjthat was my assessment as well :)16:26
cpaelzer#info powersj fixed a lot of issues, most tests are green again16:26
cpaelzer#info cloud-init and curtin tests up and running again16:27
cpaelzer#topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee)16:27
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smbNot much to report. The bcache naming should be fixed soonish (or maybe has) there was something cpaelzer had which I forgot about.16:27
rharper\o.16:27
rharpersmb: thans16:27
cpaelzersmb: I reported on the ase-xts thing before16:27
* rharper 's keyboard needs a new battery 16:27
cpaelzerOh that is a good excuse rharper16:27
cpaelzermine too16:27
rharperhehe16:27
* cpaelzer has no keyboards with batteries16:27
smbcpaelzer, oh that... think I saw other people of the team being aware16:28
cpaelzergreat16:28
* rbasak keeps his keyboard in the same place, and it has a cord :-)16:28
cpaelzer#info bcache issues fixed soonish (blocked some server related work)16:28
rbasakThis approach does make for a desk covered in cables though :-/16:28
cpaelzerI can't choke people without - and I want to so do so often16:29
cpaelzermaybe it is good to be in home office :-P16:29
cpaelzeranyway, back to business16:29
naccdark16:29
cpaelzer#topic Upcoming Call For Papers16:30
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cpaelzer#link https://lwn.net/Calendar/Monthly/cfp/16:30
cpaelzeranything else anybody which is worth to be mentioned here?16:30
cpaelzer#info no CFPs to consider at the moment16:30
cpaelzer#topic Ubuntu Server Team Events16:30
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cpaelzernothing scheduled soon I'd know about16:31
jgrimmditto16:31
cpaelzerjgrimm: do we have anything I forget?16:31
cpaelzerach you were fast16:31
cpaelzerok16:31
jgrimm:)16:31
cpaelzer#info no events scheduled16:31
cpaelzer#topic Open Discussion16:31
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cpaelzerrelease all you have held back16:31
nacci had a thought for something we could do to encourage community participation16:31
naccwe just crested 400 bugs in the backlog16:31
nacci'd like to propose on the ML a monthly bug-squashing day16:32
naccon #ubuntu-server, esp. to get community folk who are interested in taking bitesize16:32
cpaelzernacc: I think the day would be great16:32
rbasakThat's a great idea.16:32
powersj+116:32
naccwe can walk folks through using the git tree(s), submitting bugs, asking for sponsorship (and we'd have several of us available throughout the day for that )16:32
cpaelzernacc: yet we have to consider the usual can of worms to track that to completion16:32
naccof course, but I think the benefit might outweigh it -- and i fear we are too afraid of that and now there is no community participation16:33
cpaelzerwe should just plan at least for us to have the time for that post work16:33
naccexcept for filing more and more bugs that we never get to :/16:33
cpaelzernacc: oh I'm clearly +116:33
jgrimmdo you think you want to get people pre-signed up?  or just randomly show up?16:33
naccjgrimm: i think unstructured at first. I think people can subscribe to bugs if they want, and can bring them up in the channel.16:34
naccjgrimm: my plan in my e-mail was to specifically call out server-next and bitesize as tags16:34
jgrimmnp, we can learn as we go too16:34
nacci think they are not well broadcasted currently16:34
naccor maybe they were, but it's been a while, etc.16:34
naccand the contributions can even just be helping with testing in various enviroments16:34
naccwhich teaches people how to use lxd, kvm, etc.16:35
nacc(uvtool...)16:35
nacci think all of which is beneficial for both our team and our product(s)16:35
jgrimmso one thing that sort of came up with rbasak is that given where we are at in the cycle.. some valid fixes, we may still want to hold off on until the beginning of next cycle.. so think about what to do with those type of fixes16:35
naccright, i'm assuming most people in this context can't upload16:35
jgrimm^^ in context to sponsorship day he floated a couple week ago16:35
naccbut yeah16:36
cpaelzer#info nacc proposed the idea of a community wide monthly bug-squash day16:36
cpaelzerok to go on for today?16:36
naccyep16:36
cpaelzer#topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair16:36
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cpaelzernacc: will be next weeks chair16:37
cpaelzernacc: ok ?16:37
nacccpaelzer: ack16:37
cpaelzernext tuesday is 14th of march16:37
cpaelzersee you all here then16:37
cpaelzer#info next chair on 14th march will be nacc16:37
cpaelzer#endmeeting16:37
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Mar  7 16:37:51 2017 UTC.16:37
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2017/ubuntu-meeting.2017-03-07-16.01.moin.txt16:37
powersjthanks cpaelzer16:37
nacccpaelzer: thanks!16:37
cpaelzerrbasak: I missed that in the past - what is the command to get fromt he txt log to html log?16:43
cpaelzerI assume there is a tool or similar to do so16:43
rbasakcpaelzer: I just tweak the extension. s/moin.txt/html/16:44
cpaelzerrbasak: thanks16:45
cpaelzerrbasak: other than the triple action it is good16:45
cpaelzerrbasak: and we are three people, so that is somewhat fine :-)16:46
rbasakYeah it's a bit weird how it handles actions16:46
cpaelzerI just would have expected some feeback on my action setting16:46
cpaelzerbut it is good16:46
rbasakIt doesn't know who has the action, so lists against all mentioned nicks, which I don't find particularly helpful.16:46

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