[05:32] <paddatrapper> Hmm... https://joeyh.name/blog/entry/removing_everything_from_github/
[05:32] <paddatrapper> Morning everyone 
[06:33] <inetpro> good mornings
[06:48] <chesedo> morning paddatrapper inetpro
[06:48] <chesedo> and all others
[07:04] <nsnzero> morning all 
[07:49] <andrewlsd> Morning paddatrapper inetpro chesedo nsnzero
[07:49] <andrewlsd> Morning magellanic MaNI Mzolisto Squirm smile
[07:50] <andrewlsd> Hi Sxuza, I don't think I've seen you here before (I'm often not here)
[07:52] <paddatrapper> Morning chesedo, andrewlsd
[08:10] <chesedo> hi nsnzero andrewlsd
[08:18] <andrewlsd> Maaz tell Sxuza hope to see you here soon
[08:18]  * andrewlsd looks across at ZaTech slack via IRC bridge
[08:23] <andrewlsd> Time to migrate my little VPs to ubuntu 16.04.  Later version of Quassel-core resolves the funny Slack-IRC issue that makes my nic display (to me) as "Welcome". Minor irritation. Still shows correctly for other users.
[08:24] <andrewlsd> `canonical-livepatch status`
[08:24] <andrewlsd> `fully-patched: true`
[08:24] <andrewlsd> Woot
[09:26] <magellanic> hi andrewlsd 
[09:27] <andrewlsd> o/ magellanic :-)
[09:27] <chesedo> inetpro or superfly it seems that Maaz has left us...
[09:28] <andrewlsd> hmm. that explains some things. 
[09:37] <chesedo> andrewlsd: like no response to your "tell Sxuza..."?
[09:41] <andrewlsd> Yip
[09:45] <magellanic> why 16.04, due to lts? I just saw this, which was a bit depressing, but from it, the protections were effective from 16.10 onward. https://fosdem.org/2017/schedule/event/linux_desktop_versus_windows10/attachments/slides/1730/export/events/attachments/linux_desktop_versus_windows10/slides/1730/fosdem_linux_desktop_security.pdf
[09:47] <magellanic> but then here I am using mint based of 14.04 :p
[10:33] <magespawn> good day all
[10:33] <chesedo> magellanic: that is quite interesting... i see that it is future dated, so might hear a lot about it in the next few days...
[10:33] <chesedo> hi magespawn
[10:36] <magellanic> future dated?
[10:38] <andrewlsd> magellanic yeah, upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 (I only run servers on LTS). Happy to run other containers inside. but host will be LTS.
[10:38] <andrewlsd> (until it isn't  :-P  )
[10:40] <magellanic> cool, yep servers should just be lts, desktop is a different story
[10:45] <andrewlsd> magellanic: will be interesting if snaps become a real thing. in which case I can then run LTS desktop, with the latest X/Y/Z snap
[10:45] <andrewlsd> I'm a bit OS-re-install fatigued at the moment.
[10:45] <andrewlsd> theblazehen (who isn't here right now) is already on 17.04 afaik
[10:45]  * andrewlsd goes to look for theblazehen
[10:47] <chesedo> magellanic: here -> https://hboeck.de ... the date for the article is the 18th...
[10:48] <jerit> hey everybody!
[10:48] <nsnzero> hi andrewlsd chesedo jerit 
[10:48] <andrewlsd> \o/ jerit woot
[10:49] <nsnzero> still struggling with my port forwarding drama ...
[10:49] <magellanic> andrewlsd: yeah, re-install and reconfigure/setup etc is a pain
[10:49] <magellanic> chesedo: ah, it must be him repeating the talk then, it was given at fosdem early Feb
[10:49] <andrewlsd> `snap` does make it nice and easy to cleanly remove stuff.
[10:50] <theblazehen> Hi
[10:50] <jerit> lol andrewlsd hi
[10:50] <nsnzero> hii theblazehen 
[10:50] <jerit> you seem fairly excited that I'm here though I can't imagine why :P
[10:51]  * andrewlsd is also excited to see theblazehen
[10:51] <theblazehen> heh
[10:51] <theblazehen> Broke my quassel core
[10:51]  * andrewlsd thinks that is like "broke my ulna in 2 places"
[10:51] <theblazehen> Tried live migration, failed, tried normal move, some btrfs error. Normally when it fails it leaves the container on the source host
[10:52] <theblazehen> this time it copied to the new host, /me though it was still at source host, so I did a lxc delete -f quasselcore on new host, turns out that it was copied to new host and deleted from old... Was gonna move it to a docker container anyway
[10:52] <theblazehen> Annoyed that I lost the db though
[10:54]  * andrewlsd likes "hide chat" in quassel.
[10:54] <andrewlsd> ^ using it in ZAtech_slack IRC to "mute" channels.
[10:57] <nsnzero> as soon as i opened port 22 on my router i started getting login failure messages for root in the auth.log
[10:57] <theblazehen> nsnzero: Now point it to a honeypot
[10:59] <andrewlsd> theblazehen: smuxi.im looks nice.  I like "multi-user" of Quassel. although, I suppose you could just run multiple smuxi backends in containers.
[11:00] <andrewlsd> still nice to have a single IP/host to which several different folk can connect to their own IRC identities&networks
[11:00] <andrewlsd> nsnzero: if you make the password something simple, and start allowing password-based logins, those failure messages will go away :-P
[11:08]  * andrewlsd ducks
[11:08] <nsnzero> i am still learning networking - have basic knowledge that comes from watching mr robot 
[11:11] <nsnzero> i will have to find a good book on this subject 
[11:27] <nsnzero> andrewlsd: i need to find out about using pass-keys and certificates 
[11:53]  * nsnzero reads linux network administrators guide
[12:06] <magespawn> nsnzero: those failed logins are for people trying to login into your router
[12:09] <nsnzero> hi magespawn 
[12:10] <nsnzero> yip these netgear routers have a serious security bug - they can be taking over by bots
[12:11] <nsnzero> https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2016/12/12/netgear-routers-have-gaping-remote-access-hole/
[12:11] <nsnzero> hi Kilos 
[12:12] <Kilos> hi nsnzero ben struggling with router. moved it to side of house with better signal then cable didnt work
[12:13] <Kilos> swapped cables and it worked so tried old cable directly to here and it worked as well so started all over
[12:13] <nsnzero> was wondering why i didnt see you on today 
[12:13] <Kilos> and now its working so where could the stupid prob have been
[12:13] <Kilos> routers are painful things
[12:14] <Kilos> and now i gotta rest sigh
[12:14] <Kilos> hello everyone else
[12:14] <nsnzero> router are like women 1 wrong move and you are shut out 
[12:14] <Kilos> i now gonna take lappy back to my room and see if that cable also wants to give me gears 
[12:15] <Kilos> so if im missing its not me but devices
[12:21] <Kilos> just tell oom angjan if he asks and im offline that we left here at 5 am and got back and 7.30 pm exhausted and must go for scan on the 24th to map out dead sections of heart.
[12:21] <Kilos> different section in the hospital so now i learn more
[12:22] <Kilos> ]last fools never told me parts are dead already the swines
[12:23] <nsnzero> sorry to hear that kilos
[12:24] <Kilos> np man im just angry now. thats why aus docs said bypass asap
[12:24] <Kilos> here asap is in 2 to 3 years time
[12:24] <Kilos> lemme finish cabling and then sleep a bit
[12:25] <nsnzero> have you been to albert luthuli ?
[12:25] <Kilos> no steve biko
[12:25] <Kilos> only govt one available
[12:25] <Kilos> others charge 100's of ks per op
[12:25] <nsnzero> you in toti though ?
[12:26] <Kilos> no in rustenburg
[12:26] <Kilos> so pta docs
[12:27] <nsnzero> medical aid is expensive but hospitals are crazy 
[12:28] <nsnzero> have a good afternoon Kilos - chat later 
[14:29] <magespawn> brb
[14:56] <jerit> any of you guys know a lawyer in pta/cullinan area who will subpoena a guy for me and take payment only after the case is concluded?
[14:57] <jerit> my lawyer says there's virtually no chance I'll lose my case in court but wants 3k to subpoena the defendant and he won't represent me in court because its so far from his offices
[15:30] <nsnzero> ~]74
[15:51] <jerit> did anyone address my queries about a lawyer? I didn't see before I got disconnected :(
[15:57] <thatgraemeguy> nobody did
[15:57] <thatgraemeguy> there's a group on facebook called "Legal Talk SA", ask them
[15:58] <thatgraemeguy> or "Legal Talk South Africa" perhaps, I never remember which
[16:21] <chesedo> nsnzero: for my studies I am going through the book "Network+: Guide to Networks" which you might find interesting...
[16:22] <nsnzero> hi chesedo - is it a free resource ?
[16:22] <chesedo> else, i think, that the understanding of the 7 ISO layers is a great starting point
[16:23] <chesedo> nsnzero: np, university work so hell expensive :P
[16:23] <chesedo> around R600-R700 iirc
[16:23] <chesedo> s/np/nope/
[16:24] <nsnzero> ouch - that is a ssd or a new router 
[16:25] <nsnzero> this free 1 is got earlier seems very comprehensive and is specific to linux/unix 
[16:26] <chesedo> nsnzero: which one is that
[16:26] <nsnzero> linux network administrators guide 
[16:30] <nsnzero> tldp.org/LDP/nag2/index.html
[16:33] <chesedo> nsnzero: also consider that some protocols have become obsolete, so reading something oldish might require double learning
[16:36] <jerit> chesedo: what about this? https://www.cybrary.it/course/comptia-network-plus/
[16:36] <jerit> that's free
[16:37] <nsnzero> thanks chesedo 
[16:38] <nsnzero> trying to setup a huawei b539 modem - its got a usb that allows fpt / samba access but its no recognising my usb's
[16:39] <jerit> different usb version?
[16:39] <chesedo> that seems quite well structured jerit , thanks for sharing...
[16:39] <superfly> USB modeswitch? 
[16:40] <superfly> oh, not in your pc? 
[16:41] <chesedo> maybe it's the filesystem type...
[16:43] <nsnzero> yip its plugs into the modem - definitely the file system
[16:55] <nsnzero> creating a usb with all file systems to check which works
[17:02] <nsnzero> only works with >4 gig usb's :(
[18:06] <magespawn> good evening
[18:13] <nsnzero> hi magespawn 
[18:16] <magespawn> hi nsnzero 
[18:17] <inetpro> good evening
[18:17] <nsnzero> how you doing magespawn 
[18:17] <magespawn> hi inetpro 
[18:17] <nsnzero> evening inetpro 
[18:33] <magespawn> good and you nsnzero?
[19:43] <inetpro> good night