[12:24] <mozak> hi am kinda lost in time so did lubuntu swich to lxqt?
[12:24] <mozak> or is it still work in progress
[12:25] <mozak> and if i install to my friend lxde lubuntu will when 17.. or whatwerwer version lxqt will be auto update to lxqt?
[12:35] <leszek> mozak: did not switch
[12:36] <leszek> for the question of the future I don't have a 100% answer. But I guess when you upgrade it will stay with lxde as lxqt is another desktop
[12:37] <mozak> ok
[12:37] <mozak> ty
[13:38] <musician_pro> Why firefox always work worse in Lubuntu? Before it was perfect ... I just did upgrades and continues to suck ... especially on youtube
[22:08] <penguin_> Hi
[22:15] <penguin_> Hey guys
[22:16] <penguin_> How secure is Archive Manager encryption?
[22:16] <penguin_> does anybody know?
[22:17] <wxl> afaik it handles more than one form of encryption
[22:18] <penguin_> This program comes with Lubuntu.
[22:18] <penguin_> is installed by default
[22:18] <wxl> yes
[22:19] <penguin_> And I'm wondering if it's safe to encrypt data with this app.
[22:19] <penguin_> as a zip archive.
[22:19] <wxl> the app does not implement proprietary encryption protocols
[22:20] <wxl> it's as secure as the protocols themselves
[22:20] <wxl> and safety is not an objective term
[22:21] <wxl> and actually i should revise that by saying that they're compression schemes, not encryption schemes
[22:22] <wxl> that said, if you zip it with e.g. 7zip, i can just open it with a tool that implements 7zip
[22:25] <penguin_> I guess that archive manager is a simple GUI for command line (zip). Am I right?
[22:25] <penguin_> zip/unzip
[22:26] <Unit193> penguin_: It might technically be fine, but I personally wouldn't count on it.
[22:26] <wxl> more or less
[22:26] <wxl> here's the upstream website http://fileroller.sourceforge.net/
[22:26] <wxl> gpg can encrypt for yo
[22:27] <Unit193> wxl: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/FileRoller
[22:27] <wxl> Unit193: oh, if that's the case, go fix wikipedia :)
[22:27] <penguin_> File Roller is only a graphical interface to archiving utilities such as tar and zip. Since version 3.6.0 it can optionally use libarchive to handle some archive types. Supported archive types include :
[22:27] <Unit193> wxl: "Released on September 23, 2013"? ;)
[22:27]  * wxl shrugs :)
[22:29] <penguin_> Which encryption algorithm is used by zip command?
[22:29] <wxl> NONE
[22:29] <wxl> it ONLY compresses
[22:29] <wxl> (/decompresses)
[22:29] <penguin_> I can create zip file with password
[22:30] <wxl> yeah and it can easily be brute forced
[22:30] <wxl> that's not encryption
[22:30] <wxl> it does nothing to the content itself
[22:31] <wxl> 7zip supposedly can do 256-bit AES but it's unclear if file roller supports it
[22:32] <wxl> GPG can support multiple encryption types and ciphers
[22:33] <Unit193> Or,  openssl enc -in file.ods -out file.enc -aes-256-cbc  works too. :P
[22:33] <wxl> yup
[22:34] <penguin_> I would like the ability to protect data with AES encryption.what do i need to do?
[22:34] <wxl> ^^
[22:35] <wxl> ah interesting. zip DOES encrypt when a password is used. pkzip stream cipher
[22:38] <penguin_> have you ever cracked a zip or rar password?
[22:38] <wxl> you can brute force it
[22:38] <wxl> it's totalyl possible
[22:38] <wxl> depends a lot upon the complexity of the password
[22:40] <penguin_> but if the alghoritm itself is weak,then the password strength does not matter much?
[22:41] <penguin_> zip utility seems outdated
[22:41] <penguin_> Zip 3.0 (July 5th 2008)
[22:43] <penguin_> can I even update it?