| nacc | bdmurray: where does 'DpkgHistoryLog.txt' come from normally? | 00:38 |
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| nacc | bdmurray: as in what file from the local user's system, or what command generates it? | 00:38 |
| nacc | slangasek: i was collecting/perusing the bugs we've gotten on php7.0 with failed upgrades. I think in all cases where we see the debconf backtrace ("Use of uninitialized value $reply in scalar chomp at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Passthrough.pm line 66"), the invocation is from aptdaemon and running apt manually at the terminal fixes it. Is aptdaemon used only by update-manager? Or is it used | 00:45 |
| nacc | eventually by all of the various tools? | 00:45 |
| slangasek | nacc: only by update-manager | 00:46 |
| nacc | slangasek: ok, good to know | 00:46 |
| slangasek | maybe some other GUI frontends, but certainly not from apt on cli | 00:46 |
| nacc | slangasek: i tried to reproduce it in a VM and I was unable to in a few attempts, so i'm just trying to think of different approaches | 00:47 |
| slangasek | I seem to regularly hit it here on my laptop whenever I apply updates but have not had the patience to debug it | 00:47 |
| nacc | slangasek: ok, that's good to know -- and do you see it for multiple packages? I can leave this VM around and see if it triggers it eventually | 00:48 |
| slangasek | nacc: I see it for any package that uses debconf in its maintainer scripts, regardless of whether that would have triggered a debconf prompt to be displayed. | 00:49 |
| nacc | slangasek: interesting | 00:49 |
| slangasek | this includes kernel upgrades :P | 00:51 |
| slangasek | (which is why I don't have much patience for debugging it) | 00:51 |
| nacc | slangasek: and that would correspond to what we see as this seems to trigger for some people on the MRE SRUs, where no debconf prompts should occur | 00:51 |
| bdmurray | nacc: $ grep DpkgHistory /usr/share/apport/package-hooks/* | 01:05 |
| bdmurray | nacc: /var/log/apt/history.log so its incorrectly labelled | 01:06 |
| nacc | bdmurray: thanks! | 01:06 |
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| cpaelzer | good morning | 06:47 |
| rbasak | o/ | 06:47 |
| ogra_ | mdeslaur, i didnt modify anything on purpose, what happened ? | 08:16 |
| rbasak | chrisccoulson: any opinion on bug 1632870 please? | 08:41 |
| ubottu | bug 1632870 in pepperflashplugin-nonfree (Ubuntu Yakkety) "Package is broken since Google stopped shipping Flash with Chrome 54 for Linux" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1632870 | 08:41 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: I was reading the bug you linked and I'm puzzled | 09:35 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: I think I get all what was outlined there on pepperflashplugin-nonfree vs partner based adobe-flashplugin | 09:35 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: but I'm missing one bit (surely out of ignorance on the history of flash plugins) | 09:36 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: but what I did for years is install flashplugin-installer - how does that fit into the puzzle there? | 09:36 |
| cpaelzer | note: I'm still reading through all the length of this | 09:37 |
| cpaelzer | if it is down somewhere | 09:37 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: found it at about 60% of the bug - that is from ubuntu-restricted-addons | 09:39 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: wow, that is a complex maze in this bug - your current question is for your SRU duty to consider accepting them into proposed or not? | 09:47 |
| LocutusOfBorg | pitti, hi, sync systemd from experimental? :p | 10:07 |
| LocutusOfBorg | btw seems that you are fixing the autopkgtest failures, right? I see activity con git | 10:07 |
| rbasak | cpaelzer: yeah, I thought chrisccoulson might be an appropriate person to review or comment as he usually uploads adobe-flashplugin. | 10:16 |
| rbasak | But it does look entirely appropriate for an SRU to me. We shipped the package, it's broken, we should fix it. | 10:16 |
| rbasak | And decisions about what to recommend or remove should probably be limited to the development release. | 10:17 |
| rbasak | (where possible) | 10:17 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: yeah my opinion (very unimportant) would also to fix it especially as it is a security issue | 10:20 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: removing in relase - no-no, removing in zesty or later devel maybe, but even there I don't see the full reason | 10:21 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: there are more things which have multiple possible implementations | 10:21 |
| rbasak | Thanks. I'm definitely +1 on fixing it. I'm asking chrisccoulson in case he has any comment or suggestion on the approach taken. | 10:21 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: OTOH (for the furture removal in devel) I agree that a removal might simplify this mess at least a bit | 10:21 |
| rbasak | Because as you point out, it's a pretty complex area right now :-/ | 10:22 |
| cjwatson | jbicha: thanks for the icoutils sync - had been going to do that this morning :) | 10:22 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: sure, waiting for chrisccoulson is better | 10:22 |
| cpaelzer | rbasak: yet I didn't want to leave your open question for opinions end up totally unconsidered :-) | 10:22 |
| pitti | LocutusOfBorg: I won't sync it for zesty (feature freeze); if someone wants it and wants to do the FFE, be my guest of course :) | 10:24 |
| pitti | LocutusOfBorg: I'm only aware of the root-unittests failure on armhf, talked about that with xnox yesterday (no hw access any more, so can't reproduce/investigate myself) | 10:25 |
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| mdeslaur | ogra_: our techboard meeting keeps getting modified when people modify other meetings on the phone | 12:07 |
| mdeslaur | ogra_: I assume you meant to modify something else | 12:07 |
| chrisccoulson | rbasak, I don't really have an opinion on pepperflashplugin-nonfree, and that bug is quite long (I've not read the whole thing) | 12:21 |
| chrisccoulson | ideally the package wouldn't exist at all (flashplugin-installer exists so that ubuntu-restricted-addons can recommend it) | 12:22 |
| rbasak | chrisccoulson: that's fine, thank you for looking. I just wanted to check if you had an opinion :) | 12:22 |
| rbasak | chrisccoulson: OOI, how do adobe-flashplugin and flashplugin-installer fit together? | 12:22 |
| chrisccoulson | in fact, I think it's fairly bad that we have a flash plugin installer in the archive that requires users run a command outside of the normal update process to upgrade it | 12:23 |
| rbasak | I wasn't clear on why that is. | 12:24 |
| chrisccoulson | I wonder whether I should just add the ppapi plugin to flashplugin-installer - it has to download it anyway | 12:24 |
| tjaalton | doko: llvm 4 & snapshot ftbfs on powerpc, but build fine on debian.. https://launchpadlibrarian.net/305798779/buildlog_ubuntu-zesty-powerpc.llvm-toolchain-4.0_1%3A4.0~+rc2-1_BUILDING.txt.gz | 12:45 |
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| tjaalton | doko: any ideas if it's a bug in llvm or something else? | 12:58 |
| doko | tjaalton: no, I didn't look. and we'll drop powerpc this cycle | 13:31 |
| doko | should have happened in Feb afaik | 13:31 |
| tjaalton | ahh | 13:33 |
| tjaalton | ok | 13:33 |
| tjaalton | forgot about that | 13:33 |
| handsome_feng | jbicha, hi, what do you mean by tagged the wrong commit? The last commit is "Remove the debian/ directory" in ukui-menu. | 14:15 |
| jbicha | handsome_feng: hi! | 14:17 |
| jbicha | https://github.com/ukui/ukui-menu/releases shows that you tagged 0f027ad but that's not the last commit | 14:18 |
| jbicha | https://github.com/ukui/ukui-menu/commits/master | 14:18 |
| handsome_feng | I remove the previous releases and update it, since it has the same tag "v1.0.0", and then it shows 10 commits to master since this release... | 14:20 |
| jbicha | handsome_feng: you could use a new tag like 1.0.1? | 14:21 |
| handsome_feng | jbicha, I have updated the release just now, :) | 14:23 |
| jbicha | handsome_feng: thanks, can I upload to zesty from https://github.com/ukui/debian-packages/tree/master/ukui-menu/debian now? | 14:32 |
| handsome_feng | jbicha: sure! thank you! | 14:33 |
| jackpot51 | cyphermox: jbicha: happyaron: Can we talk about the patch to network-manager-applet? It is a single line change to src/libnma/Makefile.am which fixes the ability to use libnma from Python | 14:39 |
| cyphermox | jackpot51: don't need to discuss this, let's jfdi ;) | 14:39 |
| jackpot51 | awesome - then Zesty's installer won't crash for students at university, or corporate customers | 14:40 |
| jackpot51 | XD | 14:40 |
| cyphermox | well, it already shouldn't crash, no? | 14:40 |
| jackpot51 | It crashes on any WPA 2 enterprise network | 14:40 |
| jackpot51 | My patch to ubiquity fixes that crash by implementing WPA 2 enterprise | 14:41 |
| cyphermox | afaik that doesn't crash, it just doesn't work | 14:42 |
| cyphermox | (well, it doesn't work if you try to use the network panel in ubiquity, you already could use nm-applet directly instead | 14:42 |
| jackpot51 | It will say something like "Installer has crashed. Entering recovery mode" and then go to a desktop | 14:42 |
| cyphermox | ok | 14:42 |
| jackpot51 | There is no try...except around connecting to the Wifi network, so a DbusException from network manager is uncaught | 14:43 |
| jackpot51 | My patch adds the try..except block in the gtk and kde components, as well as using libnma to support WPA 2 enterprise in gtk components | 14:44 |
| jackpot51 | Line 63 here: https://git.launchpad.net/~network-manager/network-manager/+git/ubuntu-applet/tree/src/libnma/Makefile.am#n63 | 14:44 |
| jackpot51 | Needs to change to this: NMA_1_0_gir_INCLUDES = NM-1.0 Gtk-3.0 | 14:44 |
| jackpot51 | cyphermox: What do I need to do to "jfdi"? :P | 14:48 |
| cyphermox | nothing, I have your patch I'll upload it | 14:48 |
| jackpot51 | Thanks very much! | 14:48 |
| jbicha | cyphermox: thanks | 14:50 |
| spacebear | hi is their any ubuntu devs around | 14:51 |
| dobey | usually, that's what this channel is | 14:52 |
| spacebear | I've been directed to the right place ty | 14:53 |
| salty-horse | hey. ibus seems broken in zesty (can't switch back from layout after changing it). is it officially being phased out? | 18:46 |
| jbicha | salty-horse: no | 18:57 |
| salty-horse | jbicha, is any integration done by ubuntu developers, or should I take it up with the ibus team? | 18:59 |
| jbicha | salty-horse: start with a Launchpad bug, but if you think the issue is upstream you can try talking to them too | 19:02 |
| nacc | rbasak: found a few issues with the -devel pointer changes, testing them now | 19:31 |
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| nacc | slangasek: been doing some digging, cjwatson's comment 10 in LP: #500175 is interesting | 23:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 500175 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Canceling an installation in Software Center crashes debconf with "Use of uninitialized value $reply in scalar chomp at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Passthrough.pm line 66,"" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/500175 | 23:16 |
| nacc | i think it's the most detailed analysis i've found so far | 23:16 |
| nacc | cjwatson: in case you're interested, context is LP: #1597001 and several php7.0 bugs with the same symptom (all using update-manager) | 23:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1597001 in linux (Ubuntu) "package linux-image-4.4.0-28-generic (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 128" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1597001 | 23:18 |
| nacc | rbasak: awesome, so nice to be able to verify i didn't break anything by my fixed changes now | 23:58 |
| nacc | rbasak: so i just compared a from-scratch import of tftp-hpa to what is already pushed by you | 23:58 |
| nacc | rbasak: all the series branches match and the devel pointers are different (because they now have a merge-based history) | 23:59 |
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