[00:54] <mother> I have ubuntu mate 15 where do i locate my APT cache
[06:58] <vlt> Hello. On ALL our Ubuntu 16.04 machines running perfecetly fine for weeks now, since today not a single user can run firefox. The error message is ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 29685.  Any idea what happened and how to fix it?
[07:02] <alkisg> Maybe the firefox 52 upgrade?
[07:03] <alkisg> Try to downgrade to .51, and if it fixes it, you'll know where to file a bug report... :)
[07:18] <alkisg> Erm, is anyone else having applications in the menu, that open in xterm instead of gnome-terminal? I think there was a guy complaining about gcc a few days ago, and now it happens to me too...
[07:18] <alkisg> x-terminal-emulator properly opens mate-terminal
[07:20] <ouroumov> alkisg, I can confirm both htop and ipython are opening in xterm
[07:20] <ouroumov> alkisg, instead of the normal mate-terminal
[07:20] <alkisg> Thank you ouroumov, are you in 16.04.2?
[07:20] <ouroumov> Yes
[07:21] <alkisg> Thanks... flexiondotorg, any ideas? ^
[07:21] <ouroumov> alkisg, I can't vouch for this being new behavior, I never open that stuff from the menu anyway.
[07:21] <alkisg> Me neither, I think it may be old behavior
[07:25] <Astro7467> I tested on my daily runner which has gone 16.04-16.04.1->16.04.2 and MATE Term opened.
[07:25] <Astro7467> Tested on a fresh 16.04.2 machine I have and it opened in xterm
[07:25] <Astro7467> (picked htop from menu)
[07:27] <alkisg> Ouch, mine has also gone from 16.04 => .1 => .2, and it opens in xterm, strange...
[07:29] <Astro7467> Just found that if you enable 'Advanced Menus' in MATE Tweak prob goes away (changed on the fresh install) - so this is why my upgraded machine did it correctly
[07:33] <alkisg> Ah, a good clue :)
[07:40] <Astro7467> For completeness I confirm this is a viable clue - turned advance menu off on my daily runner and xterm came up - turn on and MATE term returns
[07:44] <vlt> alkisg: Yes, it was an automatic upgrade of firefoc from 51* to 52* last night.
[07:44] <vlt> alkisg: Any idea how to revert that?
[07:44] <vlt> Where can I find a working 51* deb file for Ubuntu 16.04 64 bit?
[07:44] <alkisg> vlt: you need to find the previous firefox packages, either in your cache in /var/cache/apt/archives, or in your local mirror
[07:45] <vlt> alkisg: /var/cache/apt/archives is empty for strange reasons and I don鈥檛 use a local mirror.
[07:45] <alkisg> E.g. my mirror is http://ftp.ntua.gr/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/
[07:45] <alkisg> local I mean the .fi ubuntu server
[07:46] <alkisg> Anyway, use the greek one if you want
[07:46] <alkisg> Just take care to install _all_ of the correct .deb files with a single dpkg -i * command
[07:46] <alkisg> So as to avoid broken dependencies
[07:46] <vlt> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/firefox_51.0.1+build2-0ubuntu0.16.10.2_amd64.deb
[07:46] <vlt> looks ok
[09:20] <vlt> Installed 51.0.1...deb. Works for now.
[09:25] <alkisg> vlt: don't leave it at that, continue to search for what causes it so that you notify firefox developers to fix the regression before it's "too old bug to be considered a regression"
[09:25]  * alkisg has firefox 52 without crashes
[09:26] <vlt> alkisg: Yes, I鈥檒l file a bug report.
[09:29] <doge-doge> hey guys, is anyone having VPN connectivity issues after the latest round of NM updates yesterday?
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[14:04] <vlt> Hi. Any idea how to make the screensaver work when running MATE desktop in an xrdp/xvnc session?
[19:07] <mate|40534> Hello
[20:17] <Zephyr8965> Hey, can anyone give me some advice?  I just installed Ubuntu-Mate for dual-booting on a windows 8.1 laptop.  I don't get a boot loader on startup, it just goes straight to windows 8.1.  However, I can do an advanced restart and "Ubuntu" shows up in the "devices" along with options such as making recovery disks.  Selecting that got me into linux.
[20:17] <Zephyr8965> Anybody know how I can get the boot loader to come up and get me into linux?