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naccash_workz: you would have to find the source for the paralle that is referred to in the online manpage and compare to the source used in the ubuntu package00:00
Bashing-omtangled_z: Sure they are symlinks . but I have lost thought process connectivity . No idea of what command you ran to get the output .00:00
geniiUserUS: I'm thinking now he has an ext4 formatted dos partition00:00
naccash_workz: but why are you using an online manual if you have the man page locally?00:00
k1lblobaugh: what is the output of "lsb_release -sd"?00:00
ash_workznacc: erm... let me explain00:00
ash_workznacc: I was looking at wooledge for parallel processing00:00
ash_workznacc: they gave an example `find . -print0 | parallel -0 command | ...`00:01
UserUSgenii: I just read what he said, and I think so too00:01
geniiPumamori: What is the resuly of just: mount    ( please pastebin)00:01
AurorasauraOk lol I actually need help. When adding mhddfs#/mnt/disk1,/mnt/disk2,/mnt/disk3,/mnt/disk4,/mnt/disk5 /mnt/virtual fuse allow_other,mlimit=20G 0 0 to /etc/fstab it takes me into emergency mode.00:01
ash_workznacc: when I checked the usage locally, I don't have the -0 flag... or hardly any of the flags that are potentially used where parallel is concerned.00:01
blobaughk1l: Ubuntu 15.0400:01
k1lblobaugh: then run "sudo do-release-upgrade -d"00:02
Pumamorigenii: http://pastebin.com/FpKRf89E00:02
k1lash_workz: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/parallel.1.html that is the same00:02
blobaughk1l: I keep seeing that, and that it is not recommended cause it will put me in a dev release. In this case will it work out properly?00:02
ash_workznacc: I figured I must have a different version of parallel or some random package similarly named... but I am inept at discerning this from my package manager00:02
naccash_workz: there is a parallel from moreutils too00:03
naccash_workz: `apt policy parallel`00:03
rodney77hello, I am having trouble keeping my bluetooth mouse and keyboard connected00:03
k1lash_workz: and yes, different ubuntu releases have different versions of parallel installed. i really thought you knew about the stable release scheme of ubuntu by now.00:03
ash_workznacc: and likewise inept at discerning what I'm looking at when I am pointed to the docs in question (in other words, suppose I did find out exactly what parallel I have... I would also need to know what to look for to see what parallel docs I'm looking at)00:03
rodney77i am running 14.04 and my mouse disconnects when the computer is idle. They both fail to auto-connect on boot00:03
blobaughk1l: do-release-upgrade -cd show 15.10, do-release-upgrade -c shows 16.04.200:03
tangled_zBashing-om: Oh that was the output of the ls -l command, I think?00:04
k1lblobaugh: it only works with -d. you need to upgrade to 15.10 first. then again upgrade to 16.04 (without -d then)00:04
blobaughk1l: great. Thanks for the help! :)00:04
k1lblobaugh: np :)00:04
tangled_zBashing-om: ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ gives me the 5 symlinks! or is that not the command you wanted me to run?00:04
naccash_workz: i'm not sure i follow? `man parallel` and search for refernces to the null character00:04
naccash_workz: in that particular case, it seems the parallel man page does not have a reference to the version you are using00:05
ash_workznacc: I did, there isn't any00:05
naccash_workz: you also haven't provided the apt policy outpu tyet00:05
geniiUserUS: Meh, EFI00:05
k1lash_workz: what ubuntu are you on exactly?00:05
naccash_workz: or `dpkg -S $(which parallel)`00:06
UserUSgenii: Exactly what I was thinking, but I have an EFI dual boot and I did run into a problem similar awhile back. Grub boot repair solved the problem. But it wasn't external. I even had to add the digital signature to the EFI boot devices. So many things it could be.00:06
Bashing-omtangled_z: We want that command to point to the strange UUID . ' ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/44f3493e-30f0-46c5-af38-ce8dcc8e8ebc ' where replacing this UUID with yours results in what ?00:07
tangled_zBashing-om: Oh! Right00:07
UserUSgenii: All and all, the grub.conf and xorg.conf will tell all00:07
geniiPumamori: Unfortunately, right now I'm too tired to decipher the problem correctly, and have to leave work also. But i think UserUS or possibly another helper who has been observing can keep trying to get your issue sorted00:07
ash_workznacc: https://gist.github.com/ash-m/556c4c6fd77813ee5ea670beacfb9ad900:07
naccash_workz: right, so you're using parallel from moreutils probably00:08
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k1lash_workz: so you are not even reading the manpage from your ubuntu?00:08
naccash_workz: `apt policy moreutils`00:08
Pumamorigenii: I understand, sorry for keeping you up if I did.00:08
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k1lash_workz: look at this:http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/parallel.1.html00:08
UserUSPumamori: Have you checked grub.conf?00:08
tangled_zBashing-om: hmm all of the 5 uuids produce normal output (no errors)00:09
geniiUserUS: I'll be on again tomorrow, more rested, if you still need help then I'll be glad to take another look00:09
PumamoriUserUS: No, I have not! That was one of the first suggestions, (using: "GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true")00:09
ash_workznacc: yeah, it's from moreutils00:09
ash_workznacc: in fact, it says that when I run man00:09
PumamoriBut I wasn't sure whether that would really get rid of the terminal, or that it might only remove the selection after I exitted out of it00:09
ash_workznacc: but, I don't really know what the implication is when I see that.00:09
PumamoriI have it open now though!00:10
tangled_zBashing-om: doesn't seem like any of them are strange. Im not sure what the actual UUID was that the earlier warning mentioned as that warning message has disappeared now, sorry!00:10
naccash_workz: uh, you were looking at the "GNU parallel" manpage and "moreutils parallel" is not "GNU parallel"?00:10
PumamoriUserUS: Should I upload the contents to pastebin, or do you only need a specific line?00:11
naccash_workz: it doesn't really make sense -- but it happens to be the case that there are two packages that provide the same command, but they are different00:11
naccash_workz: you also see the moreutils version has not been updated since 200900:11
ash_workznacc: where did you see that?00:12
naccash_workz: where did I see what?00:12
ash_workz200900:12
naccash_workz: at the bottom of the manpage00:12
ash_workzoh00:13
naccash_workz: also, if you actually install parallel, you will see a diversion is introduced00:13
naccash_workz: and there is /usr/bin/parallel and /usr/bin/parallel.moreutils00:13
UserUSPumamori: I'll take a look if you upload it00:13
naccash_workz: with corresponding different manpages00:13
PumamoriUserUS: http://pastebin.com/w3hpQjTD00:13
naccash_workz: so install the package that corresponds to what you actually want and you'll be happy00:14
Bashing-omtangled_z: "cryptsetup: WARNING: found more than one resume device candidate" // And we have a lot to consider ; cryprsetup - encryption at some level ; dm-0 -> part of the device mapper in the kernel, used by LVM . Now I have not a clue what you have done to arrive at this condidition .00:14
ash_workznacc: well, I am trying to figure out what I need to do to understand my state of affairs. I clearly lack quite a bit of common sense so the 'tip offs' are not something I care to rely on; though, thank you for point them out00:14
naccash_workz: what tip offs?00:14
ash_workznacc: but what I mean is, I am not versed enough to just know that moreutils parallel !== gnu parallel00:15
naccash_workz: there's no need to be quite so dramatic. it's a confusing circumstance. Two packages provide the same named program.00:15
naccash_workz: it's not about being versed00:15
naccash_workz: why would you assume they are the same?00:15
PumamoriIt seems like: GRUB_TERMINAL=console is what I'd want? Does this just skip ahead to the menu where I choose between Ubuntu / Windows? I'd love to have it boot up windows without the stick and Ubuntu with it automatically - in my current situation, I can't even recover the regular Windows booting, because bootable media doesn't start due to grub.00:15
Jordan_UPumamori: Please boot into an Ubuntu LiveUSB, run boot info script from here: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.00:15
naccash_workz: also, the online man page you referred to said quite explicitly "GNU parallel" -- your local manpage for the moreutils version does not mention GNU one time00:15
UserUSPumamori: The way that I fixed the error when I got it (assuming you are using EFI) was to mount the drive, get root, add the digital signature to the /boot/EFI...etc configuration file. I'll try to find the file. This is indicated by the line "Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass "root=UUID=xxx" parameter to Linux". So basically it is saying grub will pass "digital signature" paramater to linux to boot00:16
ash_workzbecause afaik ubuntu comes with many gnu tools? (perhaps a wrong notion)00:16
naccash_workz: so you assumed all tools are gnu tools?00:16
ash_workznacc: no...00:16
naccash_workz: let's take a step back. state clearly what you would like to learn?00:16
PumamoriI'm not even sure what EFI means, sorry! I'll look it up00:17
ash_workz(I need to learn what's wrong with me ¬.¬)00:17
naccash_workz: i was going to say without being dramatic :)00:17
naccash_workz: nothing is wrong with you -- but this situation is not surprising or confusing to me, and it is to you, so I need you to help bridge the gap00:18
UserUSPumamori: What Jordan_U said will need to be done for either of our fixes. You need a livecd (or usb) that's above it so to speak, to edit the configuration under it00:18
tangled_zBashing-om: That's strange! I definitely did not set up encryption here and I don't remember using LVM, this is the guide that I followed to partition my disk:  ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/00:19
ash_workzI need to think about it.00:19
naccash_workz: ok, i'm usually around :)00:19
tangled_zBashing-om: I do have an extender partition, but that's not the same thing as an LVM is it?00:19
UserUSPumamori: From there you can run grub repair and look at log files...etc00:20
Bashing-omtangled_z: By the way . why 5 symlinked UUIDs ? I see only a need for 4 .00:20
PumamoriI see. I am sorry for being ignorant - but how is it going to run? I've been trying to recover the Windows settings through a recovery usb, but it just lead me to the grub menu, completely ignoring it. After choosing windows, it just went straight to the login screen, rather than executing whatever's on the autorun usb00:20
k1lash_workz: program names are not always unique: there is the ubuntu desktop "unity" and a video game engine called "unity".00:20
tangled_zBashing-om:Oh, one's a spare partition. I'm going to install NixOS there eventually (it's empty for now tho)00:20
ash_workzI almost lack the vocabulary to describe my ignorance. I would say that I don't really know what something means to be GNU, BSD, etc...00:20
naccash_workz: that refers to who provides it, generally, and oftentimes to whose standard something is written00:21
tangled_zBashing-om: also, sorry, this is the link to my partition guide: http://askubuntu.com/questions/343268/how-to-use-manual-partitioning-during-installation00:21
ash_workzand I don't understand their nature with respect to unbuntu00:21
ash_workz-n00:21
k1lash_workz: just read about the gnu vs linux naming drama and you will get to know :)00:22
naccash_workz: to understand the issue you ran into, you don't really need to know any of that, though00:22
naccash_workz: at least, afaict00:22
UserUSPumamori: No worries, don't be sorry for asking for help. A login screen for what? grub logon screen?00:23
bigodeI just couldn't make a ubuntu boot out of a flash drive. I did a DVD and it is working just fine.00:23
Bashing-omtangled_z: No not the same . and 'extended' partition is but a container to hold ( up to 128 ) logical partitions (your sda5 sda6 and sda7) , Now normally we expect that the root partition be sda1, and swap to be sda5 . Why it is not standard in your install . only you can say .00:23
bigodeI wonder if that could be because of the format of the flash driver.00:23
ash_workzwell, I just need to know some thing reliable... judging from our previous convo, I would say that ubuntu has no control over what is put in gnu man pages...00:23
UserUSbigode: First question I asked00:23
bigodethe DVD is Joliet formated, while the flash driver is FAT00:23
naccash_workz: huh?00:24
naccash_workz: the content of the manpage is unrelated to the problem you hit00:24
naccash_workz: you were looking at the manpage for an unrelated command00:24
UserUSbigode: Yeah rufus does FAT32 defualt, that's what he used00:24
naccash_workz: (locally) that happened to have the same name00:24
tangled_zBashing-om: that guide i linked suggested that putting swap first will make it faster? I sort of blindly trusted that claim without verifying it though00:24
naccash_workz: and that you happened to have installed00:24
ash_workzright, my problem is just discerning concretely that00:24
bigodeUserUS: rufus?00:24
naccash_workz: well, your first hint was that your manpage didn't match :)00:25
bigodeUserUS: I am using that unetbooting00:25
tangled_zBashing-om: do you think having swap as my first partition might be the cause of my inability to resume?00:25
PumamoriI'll try to explain better - the "easy" fix to my solution was to boot a Windows 10 recovery CD / USB and just restore the boot settings from there, (so something similar to what you're suggesting with Ubuntu), but ever since I started having the grub terminal popping up at reboot, I didn't get my bootable sticks to work at all. It *always* jumps t00:25
Pumamorio the grub terminal, rather than executing my recovery stick. If I choos either Ubuntu or Windows, it continues to ignore their existence, haha.00:25
bigodeUserUS: so FAT32 works?00:25
UserUSbigode: ohh sorry misread nevermind00:25
bigodeUserUS: so FAT32 works?00:26
UserUSPumamori: Easy, Change your boot order in system setup, save and reboot00:26
UserUSbigode: for bootable ubuntu, you'd want NTFS00:27
ash_workznacc: right, I did in fact understand that something was off from that :) but when I say that ubuntu doesn't control gnu man pages... what i mean to say is I could envision a scenario where a parallel command is provided by a moreutils package that was created by gnu; so I wouldn't say I could rely on the fact that GNU is missing from the docs that that means it is not gnu parallel00:27
bigodeUserUS: Mmmmmm.. so that is it!00:27
PumamoriYet I can't even open the bios or boot settings since grub "appeared". I've mashed pretty much every single F button before boot (before the grub terminal) and after choosing windows, to no effect. (Also tab, delete...)00:27
Bashing-omtangled_z: Well, not all guides are 100% trustworthy, but no, having swap as primary on sda1 should not cause a problem . ( Me I want my root partition 1st as sda1 !) .00:28
naccash_workz: moreutils is not a GNU package00:28
naccash_workz: http://joeyh.name/code/moreutils/00:28
naccash_workz: GNU is typically quite verbose in their own manpages and will tell you if you are using a GNU tool00:28
naccash_workz: as, just like the case you are finding, it matters to know that00:29
ash_workznacc: right, I know that now; but I'm must trying to convey the lack of concreteness when I am trying to discern these things in general00:29
naccash_workz: you undersatnd that very rarely does ubuntu create any manpages, they all come from upstream sources00:29
Jordan_UPumamori: OK. So can you currently boot any OS on this machine?00:29
ash_workzlike, sometimes I'll have a command, and there is no man at all00:29
tangled_zBashing-om: Yeah I probably should've stuck with convention in hindsight!00:29
naccash_workz: such as?00:29
PumamoriJordan_U: Yes, both Windows and Ubuntu (when the stick's plugged in.)00:30
ash_workzI dunno;  I can't think of one... I00:30
PumamoriMy problem is the grub terminal, that's even there when the stick's not in.00:30
UserUStype startx into the terminal00:30
ash_workzI've run into the instance where `help command` had had information in lieu of man, or sometimes I'm sol, but that's happened maybe 3 times total00:30
Jordan_UPumamori: OK, then please boot into Ubuntu, run boot info script from here: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.00:30
Bashing-omtangled_z: Believe me it is all a process of learning and adapting ! Now each and every install I do is different . But I have learned what is and what I want . You too will :) /00:31
UserUSPumamori: Try to run the command startx too, to get the desktop00:31
naccash_workz: i've been actively using and developing on linux for a while now, and i've not run into that situation myself anytime recently (yes a long time ago it was common). So i'd need a specific case to help00:31
naccash_workz: in the case of parallel, say, you could have done a `apt-file search /usr/bin/parallel` and seen that it's in two packages00:32
naccash_workz: and then looked at those packages descriptions and seen that one says it provides GNU parallel and the other provides a bunch of utilitieis00:32
Bashing-omPumamori: Careful with 'startx' has limited applications in today's systems .00:33
ash_workznacc: well, that's not exactly my point... I think what I need to do is learn 2 things: 1) how to find out where a command came from and 2) understand the the references for documentation on the upstream command.00:33
PumamoriI'm a tad confused. What does startx do exactly?00:33
* ash_workz tries that00:33
tangled_zBashing-om: Thanks! Yeah, it's a learning experience! I try and experiment around with new options to see if they make things better.00:33
PumamoriAlso, apparently I have to install mawk first for the script to work, a sec..00:33
tangled_zBashing-om: We may not have found out the mystery of the resume, but at least we managed to make my system boot! Thanks for the help! :D00:34
naccash_workz: 1) if installed, dpkg -S `which command`; if not installed, `apt-file search command`. Also, the whole command-not-found stuff does some of this too00:34
Bashing-omtangled_z: Back to the issue at hand . Able to reboot ? What happens ?00:34
UserUSPumamori: so do sudo apt-get install mawk. And startx is what you use to start xorg which will bring you to the GUI of the desktop00:34
naccash_workz: 2) not sure i undrerstand00:34
tangled_zBashing-om: Yes, it manages to boot now.00:35
scarybabyhello00:35
tangled_zBashing-om: So long as I shut it down. Not sure if it'll suspend, though00:35
ash_workznacc: apt-file search /usr/bin/parallel has no output00:35
Bashing-omtangled_z: I tell ya the truth . wwith cryptsetup and dm-0 and graphic'00:35
naccash_workz: have you run `apt-file update` as your user?00:36
PumamoriHm, it doesn't upgrade the old version. And ah, I see.00:36
ash_workznope00:36
* ash_workz does that00:36
naccash_workz: then totally expected :)00:36
naccash_workz: just like apt itself00:36
scarybabydumb question, I'm trying to install php5-fpm but when I run the apt-get command I get a "has no installation candidate error". How do I install this package?00:36
naccscarybaby: what version of ubuntu?00:36
scarybaby16.0400:36
naccscarybaby: 16.04 has no php5 support00:36
scarybabyah00:36
naccscarybaby: php-fpm (php7.0 based)00:36
scarybabyty!00:37
naccscarybaby: you can either use trusty in a container/vm or use ondrej's PPA00:37
naccscarybaby: or migrate to php7 :)00:37
scarybabyIt's for tooling around while I learn to PHP properly00:37
Bashing-oms issues that you do not know the why of ---- I would give a lot of thought - as this is a fresh install - to doing a RE-install taking what you know now and applying it to this new installation ,00:37
naccscarybaby: ah, then definitely just use php7.0 :)00:38
PumamoriIs there any way I can just force to use the bootable media through grub...? It would simply so many things if I could get that thing to run..00:38
tangled_zBashing-om: hhmmmmmm that's a very good point.00:39
scarybabynacc, if I run apt-get install php-fpm, will that give 7?00:39
ash_workznacc: okay, that's done, what is the output of search telling me exactly?00:40
naccscarybaby: yes; and it will track the correct version that is supported as you go forward00:40
scarybabyexcellent, thank you so much!00:40
naccash_workz: `apt-file search <filename>` searches the contents of all packages for any file matching '*filename*'00:40
naccash_workz: (as per `man apt-file` :)00:40
UserUSPumamori: You can't without it being mounted. There is a program I use that is basically a bootloader itself. It's called rEFInd. Might solve the issue of your boot paramaters, because it loads bootloaders, anything attached when your computer boots, it gives the option to boot into00:40
tangled_zBashing-om: Yeah it'll have a think about it, it might be the way to go. Can't believe so many issues popped out of nowhere so early on!00:41
PumamoriI see00:41
jason_-Does anyone know if different nvidia cards play well together on Ubuntu?00:43
jason_-Like if I have two different types00:43
UserUSPumamori: Yeah, I can find the install instructions if you want, but grub-repair is what probably needs to be run to solve the issue you have now. Which you can do with a liveusb. Your issue isn't uncommon.00:43
ash_workznacc: okay, I see a colon separated list, (ie: `pssh: /usr/bin/parallel-nuke`) ... so what is 'pssh' in that case?00:43
UserUSjason_-: Proprietary drivers work just fine, in my experience. I have seen people with issues here and there though00:43
naccash_workz: a package name00:44
PumamoriAh, alright. But I couldn't run any other liveusbs - how does that one differ? (Again, don't mean to sound rude, just asking because I don't know any better)00:44
jason_-UserUS: Well I've been having issues with intel graphics + a quadro GPU. I thought maybe buying a cheap nvidia card for running displays would be an easier solution.00:44
jason_-err not quadro, Tesla K4000:45
Jordan_UPumamori: Yes you can use the grub shell to boot from other media, but at some point we need to figure out what your current configuration *is*. Boot info script will tell us that, and then hopefully from there we will be able to walk you throuhg fixing it.00:46
UserUSPumamori: Grub-repair is an application, not a liveusb00:46
Jordan_UUserUS: Pumamori: I would recommend against using boot-repair if you have someone available that can determine what actually needs to be done rather han hoping the script's heuristics get it right.00:47
naccash_workz: note that also you can pass -F to apt-file so it treats the argument as a fixed string and not a regex00:48
UserUSJordan_U: Sure, troubleshoot other options first by all means. Jump in here.00:48
Bashing-omtangled_z: It is your system, we are here to help in whatever you decide to try and do :) - If It ain't broke do not fix it .00:48
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UserUSjason_-: Probably, the drivers are more common, but that's just a common sense judgment on my behalf00:49
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tangled_zBashing-om: That's true too! :) It works fine at the moment. This does feel like one of those things that might get annoying in the future. I'll see how it goes for now and if the problems persist!00:49
tangled_zBashing-om: Thanks again for the help :)00:49
PumamoriAlright, thank you. Not sure if I've mentioned it before, but mawk doesn't upgrade the files, since it's "the newest version available", thus not letting me run the scripts. And I am *terribly* sorry, but I've been at this for a while too and it's getting extremely late - I have to get up in 4 hours for university, and I want to get at least some s00:50
Pumamorileep in. Thanks for your help so far - I'll try to get all the requested files and then deliver those tomorrow (or rather, later today I suppose). I hope this doesn't seem ungrateful, I'm just really tired at this point.00:50
Bashing-omtangled_z: My pleasure . Things like this make my day . Helps ne too on this steep curve of learning .00:50
Jordan_UPumamori: sudo apt install gawk00:51
ash_workzhow do I search ubuntu repositories for a keyword in a package/command name?00:51
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naccash_workz: `apt-cache search ...`00:52
Jordan_Uash_workz: apt-cache search keyword00:52
UserUSPumamori: Run chmod +x "scriptname" to get the script to run...and feel free to pm me later, I'll go on tomorrow to try and lend a hand at some time.00:52
naccash_workz: and now it's also `apt search ...`00:52
ash_workznacc: apt-cache search seems search descriptions too00:52
naccash_workz: that of course is searching your local cache, not the repositories literally00:53
PumamoriAlright, I've run the script once: http://pastebin.com/Dci11s6n00:53
naccash_workz: you want to only search names?00:53
naccash_workz: `man apt-cache` ... --names-only00:53
ash_workzwell, if I hear about the parallel command and I am thinking of installing it... I don't know that search all the descriptions is helpful00:54
tangled_zBashing-om: :D glad to hear that I brought you a problem that you found interesting!00:54
naccash_workz: well, if it's a command it lives in bin, so i'd do `apt-file search parallel | grep bin` at least00:55
naccash_workz: but also, in this case, i'd probably first try `apt-cache show parallel`; and i woudl assume as it's a command i could do `apt-file search /usr/bin/parallel`00:55
Jordan_UPumamori: Please pastebin the output of "sudo efibootmgr".00:55
naccash_workz: as all packages that ship binaries for normal users put them there00:56
PumamoriJordan_U: http://pastebin.com/BGKkeD3F00:56
ash_workzhmm I see00:57
naccash_workz: but more improtanly, if you didn't have moreutils on your sytsem, and had c-n-f (which i believe is present by default), and typed at yoru terminal 'parallel', cnf would tell you which packages provide that binary00:58
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naccash_workz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24134135/00:59
Jordan_UPumamori: OK, according to that, there are three boot entries that are tried before your machine will try to boot Windows. We can make Windows the first entry tried, or we can remove the other entries.00:59
ash_workznacc: I see00:59
PumamoriI see - does removing the others entail cutting off all access? The intention originally was to boot up Windows when the Stick's not plugged in, while booting up Ubuntu when it is01:00
naccash_workz: and that's just the output from `/usr/lib/command-not-found parallel`01:01
PumamoriReordering sounds like a good solution though01:01
naccash_workz: which is itself python and you can see how it does that :)01:01
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ash_workznacc: I am sometimes wary that when I am told about a command, that I might accidentally be on the hunt for the wrong package.01:01
Jordan_UPumamori: Well, if the drive the entries correspond to isn't available, it should be skipped. Let's see what drive is associated with each entry by looking at the output of "sudo efibootmgr -v".01:01
PumamoriJordan_U: http://pastebin.com/yvajFr7N01:02
naccash_workz: it's relatively rare for a command to be in two packages01:02
ash_workznacc: but is it relatively rare for a package name !== the name of the command it provides01:03
naccash_workz: no, and not every package provides commands01:03
PumamoriI see... So the second Ubuntu is Grub? (That's probably the most stupid way I could put it, but hey...)01:03
naccash_workz: but no one is trying to mislead you by their naming01:04
ash_workzno I know, but that might not be practical for the package... ie: moreutils01:04
naccash_workz: what might not be practical?01:04
node9Hi i'm running ubuntu 16.10 and i just made an update and somethings broken. I have fstab entry that mounts /Mypool/var/lib/mysql to /var/lib/mysql. What ends up happening on boot is that the zfs pool doesn't get mounted at all but there's just a symlink /Mypool/var/lib/mysql. The zfs pool can't get mounted because "directory exists". If I remove fstab entry then everything mounts normally, except the /var/lib/mysql01:05
Jordan_UPumamori: OK, I'm starting to understand what happened. Your Ubuntu installation is on sdf5, but it was configured to use the EFI System Partition sda2. Let me think a bit how best to get this fixed.01:05
node9this is the entry that I have in fstab - /Pearl/var/lib/mysql    /var/lib/mysql  none    bind01:05
PumamoriI wonder how that happened in the first place. I'm sure I only used sdg (that's what it was back then) for the location of... well, everything. Bootloader too and formatting after hitting "install now" only referred to it too.01:06
UserUSJordan_U: You can change the UUID path01:07
ash_workzlike, if I am told about gnu parallel and I try it and something fails (I realize that I should probably check to see if said command exists before I just try it, but...) and I go, "oh, I don't have the gnu `parallel` command" but as it turns out, the gnu parallel command is under the package gnutools, or gnu-parallel or something01:07
ash_workz(not just `parallel`)01:07
Jordan_UPumamori: OK, we could fix this manually, but there is enough wrong (or at least not ideal) that it's easiest to re-install, but do it properly.OCOCOCOCOCOCOCOC01:07
UserUSPumamori: It usually happens by not choosing "something else" and setting it manually. Jordan_U is right, if that is the issue, reinstall is best01:08
naccash_workz: sorry, i'm not sure what you are saying is the problem there?01:08
naccash_workz: you ran a command, it did not do what you thought it should01:08
naccash_workz: so you check the manpage -- that's weird, it doesn't mention options i expect to find01:08
PumamoriI see, but how would I get rid of grub before doing so? I suppose doing it "properly" would result in a live usb without the grub terminal each time...01:08
sintrehell i said to do that an 2 hours ago01:08
naccash_workz: so then you go and see if the same program is provided by something else01:08
sintrebut sintre knows nothing lol01:08
PumamoriWell, I did choose something else, but I did screw up a bit with the Fat32 / Ext4 stuff.01:08
PumamoriNever said you didn't, I just figured there was a quick work around, since it does work - it was just a matter of getting rid of the grub terminal. My apologies if it came off as that.01:09
naccash_workz: and i think really, don't get hung up on paralle, which is a pathological case (afaict)01:10
sintrewell you learned there isn't an easy fix after all so you learned something01:10
PumamoriYay me. Haha.01:10
ash_workznacc: pathological?01:10
UserUSPumamori: Well your issue won't allow that unfortunately. Cheers01:11
Jordan_UPumamori: It looks like you don't currently have any Ubuntu LiveUSB plugged in right now. Is that correct?01:11
PumamoriNo, I have only the stick where I installed it in there01:12
naccash_workz: where two packages provide the same binary01:12
naccash_workz: same binary name01:12
Jordan_UPumamori: OK. Do you have another USB drive that you can put Ubuntu live on?01:15
PumamoriYes, the same one I had it on earlier actually. I just need to put it on there again, because I tried several windows restore images today first01:15
posI'm getting a bad sector on an md array. can I easily find out which member disk houses the specific bad block?01:15
* sintre remembers somebody saying to reinstall with NEW media and a new iso download sometime in last 24 hours hmm he ponders what could be01:16
naccash_workz: i'm stepping afk for the evening, but will be around tmrw01:19
Jordan_UPumamori: OK. Please plug that in and re run boot info script.01:19
ash_workznacc: okay! I get how all these commands work together now01:21
ash_workznacc: thanks a lot01:21
Exterminadorhello guys.. stupid question: is it possible in any way to run a GUI inside a Ubuntu vps?01:22
NivexIs it safe to remove linux-generic after installing linux-generic-hwe-16.04? I have a machine with a somewhat small /boot that keeps filling up from all the recent kernel traffic.01:23
PumamoriJordan_U: Thanks for helping out, but I gotta get up for university in less than 4 hours, so I'll be leaving for now... I'll try to check back in tomorrow. (Wrote you a message about that too~) Thanks everyone, have a wonderful day / night!01:23
naccNivex: only as safe as you trust the HWe kernel to be :)01:25
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robbieusahi01:30
ash_workznacc: this is the mentality, right? https://gist.github.com/ash-m/61aa32c71963be2032650c9e52dfadf301:32
robbieusai just recieved a update it says error not enough space got this before i think i need to delete old kernels how do i using terminal01:32
ash_workznacc: sorry, I just read the afk bit01:32
ash_workznacc: thanks a lot01:32
Bashing-omrobbieusa: If ya have the operating head room now . try ' sudo apt autoremove ' .01:33
OerHeksrobbieusa, apt autoremove01:33
robbieusak01:33
robbieusaAPT GET?01:34
sintresudo apt clean && sudo apt auto-remove01:34
robbieusasays error01:34
robbieusaits apt-get01:34
pavlosrobbieusa, it is one word, autoremove01:34
OerHeksrobbieusa, sure there is no space or is it mounted dirty = RO ?01:34
hyperdivquick question to anyone out there who has any idea: linux-image-4.8.0-41?01:34
Bashing-omrobbieusa: " sudo apt autoremove " .01:34
hyperdivcan01:34
OerHeksoh, typo01:35
hyperdivcan't find any information about it, but its being given as an update01:35
robbieusasudo apt-get autoremove is working Bashing-om01:35
hyperdivgoogle can't even find more than 3 references to it01:35
hyperdivseems strange01:35
robbieusareboot after?01:35
Bashing-omrobbieusa: I would check package status ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; before re-booting .01:36
hyperdivalso not in the ubuntu package listings01:36
hyperdivanyone knows what this is?01:36
robbieusak01:37
sintrehttp://imgur.com/a/md0kM01:37
sintrecommand seems to work here01:37
robbieusaworked01:38
hyperdivthis is on xubuntu 16.04.201:38
robbieusaty01:38
Bashing-omrobbieusa: Happy2help :)01:39
robbieusa:)01:41
blobaughK1rk: your solution is working perfect. 15.10 upgrade complete, 16.04 on its way! You rock :D01:43
blobaughk1l: your solution is working perfect. 15.10 upgrade complete, 16.04 on its way! You rock :D01:44
sintrewe got that the first time01:45
sintre:)01:45
AperHi, I need help to set up a wifi network from ubuntu 16.10 as an access point with a BCL4352 wireless card. I can get the master mode to work thus phones can't connect to the access point (which is my main goal). Does anyone has a clue on how to fix that?01:45
n4no`Hola Bashing-om01:47
Bashing-omn4no`: Hello . What is your ubuntu issue ?01:48
n4no`No issue Bashing-om just saying hello.. A01:49
OerHeksAper, BCL ? or BCM ?01:50
AperBCM01:50
AperSorry for the typo01:50
Aperthx @OerHeks01:50
OerHeksAper it should be possible with the STA driver http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/cannot-create-access-point-on-ubuntu-14-04-[wireless-card-bcm4352]-4175541929/01:51
AperThat's the one I use I think (STA wireless driver from bcmwl-kernel-source)01:53
Aper@OerHeks, thanks I found a new ressource (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx) I'll give it a try01:59
OerHeksAper, good, let us know :-)02:00
Apersure :)02:00
royhog1vhosts /cloak02:03
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wojuhow to get a invite?02:04
wojuhow to get a invitation?02:05
sintremissing a party?02:05
sintredepending on the channel I believe its a channel operator that can send invites02:06
OerHekswoju, invite to ??02:07
wojuOerHeks: chat02:07
woju#chat02:07
OerHekswoju, anyone can come in here for ubuntu support.02:07
wojuOerHeks: we need chat for a rest02:07
sintrewoju i invited you to sintreland you didn't accept02:08
OerHekswoju, try #ubuntu-offtopic if you have no support issue.02:08
wojuOerHeks: ok02:09
sintreone thing is ubuntu-offtopic requires your nick to be registered02:09
sintresome if you licke that nick you might wanna reg it02:09
OerHeks!register02:10
ubottuFor information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.02:10
woju ubottu ok02:10
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)02:10
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ponAhi, I have a file to which i want to append text with a cronjob. now this file could be read by a user input at the same time, will this be an issue, if yes what exaclty is the issue? no two writes will ever occur at the same time02:46
Ben64ponA: sounds weird to write to a file from cron but no, it won't be an issue02:50
BigMacshi02:50
BigMacsAnyone here know a lot about git?02:50
Ben64BigMacs: the people in #git02:51
sousousouhi02:51
ponAokay, thx Ben64, are you interested in what i am trying to achieve, maybe you could provide some input?02:52
Ben64ponA: go for it02:52
Herbalistbig Ubuntu update ..02:53
ponAokay, i have a RaspberryPi and i want to use several temperature sensors with it. The sensor values are written to some files on the pi, the files contain the Temperature but also much more. I now would like to gather the relevant info of these files (the temperature) into one CSV file. As i would like to get the values every Minute i would just run a Cronjob which executes the script that copies the temperature values over to my CSV.02:56
basketballACTION PARSNIP02:56
Ben64ponA: i'm sure there's a better way02:59
ponAwell, i am sure, too, but i dont know any... got a hint for me?02:59
Ben64ponA: maybe ask #raspberrypi03:00
lurklordThe current linux kernel version of 16.04 is 4.8 right?03:00
ponAokay, i'll do that, thx for the info anyway!03:01
Bashing-om!linux-image-generic xenial | lurklord03:01
Bashing-om!info linux-image-generic xenial | lurklord03:02
ubottulurklord: linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.66.70 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 12 kB03:02
Ben64there's also linux-generic-hwe-16.0403:02
tragicalHello everyone03:05
tragicalI have this problem when I try to boot into ubuntu with a usb03:05
tragicalwheneveri try to do it, it just restarts my computer?03:05
tragicalcan anyone help me solve this issue?03:05
tragicalthe only other os i have on it is debian, and i installed that without a network mirror so its just a terminal03:06
sintretragical , redownload iso and create usb again03:07
tragicali did that a couple times sintre03:08
sintresounds like a copy error one one or both of those places03:08
sintrealso use different media03:08
tragicalcan it possibly have to do with the fact that debian takes over the ret of space?03:08
tragicalso i may have to free up space on that parititon03:09
sintredo you have another bootable usb stick that you can confirm that there is nothing wrong with the port?03:09
sintreno if your trying to boot into a livre session from usb03:09
sintreshouldn't even touch the hdd03:09
tragicaloh ok mkes sense03:09
tragicalill look but i dont think i have another usb03:09
tragicalit just flashes on the screen, the two options that restarts03:10
tragicalthen*03:10
sintreagain gotta use different media different port03:10
sintreif not ubuntu any live linux distro to confirm its not hardware03:11
sintrego buy a stick tomorrow for 5 bucks03:11
sintreuntil thats ruled out nowhwreere to go03:11
tragicalok i found another usb stick03:11
tragicaldo i install different linux distro?03:12
sintreanything you want , i assume you want ubuntu03:12
tragicalyes03:12
sintreif you've downloaded the iso multiple times i'd go with that03:12
sintresave time03:12
sintreif that doesn't work try different distro iso03:13
sintrewhat are you doing03:13
sintreto make these bootable sticks03:13
sintreprogram ?03:13
tragicalim using mac usb loader03:13
tragicalmacl inux usb laoder03:14
tragicalmac linux*03:14
sintrethats probally the problem03:14
sintredo you have a linux distro or windows03:14
sintrei don't know anythings about mac03:14
tragicalno i dont :)03:14
tragical:)03:14
sintrebut sure as hell know they aint gonna make window sor linux sticks work lol03:14
tragicallol03:14
sintreok now we got a bigger problems03:14
sintremaybe not now but tomorrow03:15
sintrecan you get access to a windows or linux system03:15
tragicalwould setting up a vm work03:15
sintreyour mac bootable cd thing will most likely never make a function iso out of linux distro03:16
tragicalso i have to buy another computer?03:16
sintreor lurk in the channel maybe somebody that has done it before could come around03:16
sintreno just find another comptuer to use03:17
Sophie__If anyone could help me I've having a little issue with privoxy and tor together03:17
tragicalok ill ask around03:17
sintrefk this03:17
sintresry for abreviated bad words03:17
sintrehere is what i'd do tragic03:17
sintreyou go two sticks right03:17
tragicalyep03:17
sintrego to a comptuer store and say you want to buy a new usb stick03:18
Bashing-omtragical: Mac has the 'dd' tool that will make up a image from a .iso file . However, I do not know the Mac syntax .03:18
sintrebuy a cheap 10 buck on from store but on the condition they allow you to test it by putting the iso on the other one03:18
sintre1000% it'll be windows03:19
MrMiklhi i installed 16.04 for games on my dell,  most things work ok, even in games, except keyboard lag.  I watched lots of youtube but cant find a particular fix for this03:19
tragicalok ill try that, they're a couple stores around, thx sintre, and i'll try your method as well Hashing-om03:19
sintreso make them download https://rufus.akeo.ie/03:19
Sophie__mikl, laptop/desktop?03:19
sintreright that link down03:20
MrMikla dell xps 8300 desktop with nvidia gpu03:20
sintreif some reason that is down , try unetbootin03:20
Sophie__have you tried keyboard with other computer then?03:20
MrMiklyes i have a few computers, its not a keyboard problem03:20
tragicalok i will sintre03:21
Sophie__I honestly have no idea sorry03:21
Sophie__I'm not very experienced with issues like that03:21
tragicalthx03:21
sintretragical i'd also like to warn you about something03:21
Sophie__and I'm mainly here for a privoxy issue myself03:21
sintreif you use a mac apple doesn't help support rival os's in any way03:21
MrMiklthats ok, was hoping to find a config file or something, the program works well with lessor machine in win1003:22
sintreso you may in the end have to get a new pc to use  anew os03:22
sintrethey don't provide any driver info or support to competittors03:22
Sophie__well, hopefully someone can help me with my privoxy issue tomorrow03:23
Sophie__I'm not very experienced atm03:23
LoyalSophie__, What is your issue03:23
LoyalMabey I can help03:23
MrMiklprioxy or privacy?03:23
sudohihiprivacy03:24
Sophie__I'm trying to string together both privoxy and tor, right?03:24
sudohihiyes03:24
tragicaloh ok ill look out for that sintre03:25
Sophie__specifically torsocks seems to be working in terminal03:25
Sophie__while I've set up the configs with privoxy for tor, I'm not even seeming to get privoxy doing anything03:25
Sophie__I don't know how to explain it very well because I'm not getting any sort of errors03:26
Sophie__I've tested the config page to test as well03:26
Sophie__nothing is going through03:26
LoyalAre your routes setup corectly?03:26
LoyalYou can do "route" to find out03:27
Sophie__I'm booting my laptop back up03:27
Sophie__I've crosschecked on some of the guides for both03:28
Sophie__Loyal: ok what am I looking for?03:29
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LoyalYour default going to your proxy03:30
Sophie__as I said, I'm super inexperienced03:31
Sophie__I don't think default is going to anything03:32
Sophie__default-gateway03:34
Loyal_It should say somthing like this "default         (Proxy Ip)    128.0.0.0       UG    0      0        0 tun0"03:35
altendkyi'm trying to figure out how to get my nexus 5x connected via mtp but to have access to the files via a standard path so i can access it easily via an existing script.  ideas?03:35
Sophie__Nope, just default-gateway-0.0.0.0-ug-600-0-0-wlp12s003:36
Sophie__probably a stupid mistake I made early on03:37
Sophie__wouldn't surprise me03:37
st3fannHi there, I am making an OpenVZ template from a debian minimal install, and I noticed that all of the packages I installed are stored in .deb files at /var/cache/apt, and I wanted to know if these are safe to delete03:37
st3fannI did run apt-get clean and apt-get autoclean, but this did not seem to remove the files.03:37
Loyal_So your proxy isn't routeing it's self. AKA Its not telling the computer to send internet via it.03:37
tragicalsintre03:40
sintreyea03:40
tragicali got it to work :D03:40
Sophie__thats what I figured Loyal03:40
tragicalHashing-om03:40
tragicalthank you so much03:40
Sophie__as I said, nothing is changing when I start the process/end it03:40
tragicaldd worked perfectly03:40
sintregratz tragical03:40
tragicali had to convert iso to image then use dd to convert03:41
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tragicalnever gonna try and install debian again lol03:41
st3fanndoes anyone know if I can manually delete /var/cache/apt deb packages?03:41
sintrelol tragical , lets just hope it can make sall your hardware work correctly03:42
Loyal_I would say that is a error in the process, can you try it in a fresh vm? That will tell you if you set ip up wrong or the process isn't working right.03:42
tragicalhopefully i dont have a mac as a my desktop so thats good03:42
* sintre face palms at those apples03:43
Sophie__hmm wait03:43
Sophie__just manually started process again03:43
Bashing-omtragical: Great , glad you got it worked out . bs=4m in the dd command ?03:43
tragicalbs=1m03:43
st3fanntragical: what does debian have that mac doesn't :p03:43
Sophie__default-172.16.1.1-0.0.0.0-ug etc etc03:43
Sophie__so now 172.16.1.1 instead of 'gateway'03:44
Bashing-omtragical: :)03:44
tragical:D03:44
jayly_msg Jayly http://www.awesomescreenshot.com/showImage?img_id=227106403:44
tragicalmac is cool, but the more customizable it is the better03:44
LoyalSo your proxy is trying to route.03:44
st3fanntragical: it's pretty customizable ;) same backend, better UI, corporate backed03:45
Sophie__what should I do then?03:46
tragicali mean it has like 100 applications pre installed :P03:46
sintreok lets let tragical decide what he wants to use his hardware for and when did this become a mac cheerleading room?03:46
LoyalInstall traceroute, then run "traceroute ubuntu.com' and see if it goes via your proxy03:47
LoyalK I'm back internet droped03:48
LoyalInstall traceroute, then run "traceroute ubuntu.com' and see if it goes via your prox03:48
tragicalwell time to build my box up again, thx everyone for your help03:48
Sophie__what should have happened if it went via proxy?03:48
sintregl tragical03:48
Sophie__oh wait03:48
Sophie__im dumb03:48
tragicalthx, u too sintre, st3fann, and hashing-om03:49
tragicalpeace03:49
Sophie__so the first four where definitely in my area03:49
Sophie__but then it just went thru cogentco03:50
LoyalDo you have the same proxy working on another computer right now?03:50
Sophie__just tried trace without process running and with03:51
Sophie__same results03:51
Sophie__I only have privoxy on laptop03:51
Sophie__Loyal: do you think you could help me in 20 hours?03:54
LoyalI could try to be here.03:54
Sophie__Thank you, I'm not sure what my problem is and I'm definitely not sure how to fix it.03:55
Sophie__See you then03:55
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tcpdumpI just wnt to boot my server04:01
tcpdumpand I have tho04:02
tcpdumpthis04:02
tcpdumphttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/4J09CZid/04:02
tcpdumpAnyone have any thoughts on where to start with that...04:02
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KDNSKDHFUESLLolis there any programs that turn ubuntu into windows04:23
KDNSKDHFUESLLollike functionally04:23
kristofferhagen@KDNSKDHFUESLLol Have you looked at "wine"? It allows you to install and run windows software on linux04:25
KDNSKDHFUESLLolOh okay thank you, that makes sense.04:26
KDNSKDHFUESLLolnever used it before i guess i just right a script or whatever to run at start up?04:27
KDNSKDHFUESLLoli guess i;ll figure it out04:27
KDNSKDHFUESLLolis there any problem with running a vpn on wine?04:28
jason_-I'd personally use virtualbox instead of wine if possible04:29
kristofferhagen@KDNSKDHFUESLLol I'm not sure if that will work as I've never tried it. I would guess it's a better idea to install a vpn on Ubuntu (if your vpn has support for that.)04:30
mykdeltawhich vpn04:30
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KDNSKDHFUESLLolit's not reliable to run one on virtualbox04:31
KDNSKDHFUESLLol?04:31
AurorasauraCould anyone point me to some info regarding how to add a hard drive to a mhddfs setup?04:32
AurorasauraI am having a hard time finding anything04:32
KDNSKDHFUESLLolnothing compares to windows04:33
KDNSKDHFUESLLolit's so simple04:33
kristofferhagen@KDNSKDHFUESLLol Could you tell us a bit more about what you are trying to do? What are you going to use the vpn for? What Windows functionality are you looking for?04:33
KDNSKDHFUESLLolat what point is it not worth it to use *nix04:34
KDNSKDHFUESLLolwhen convenience is more important than security and knowing more precisely what is going on with your machine?04:35
st3fannKDNSKDHFUESLLol: It's more about when you specifically need to run EXEs and there is not a software alternative for linux, such as Silverlight or video games04:56
magkneetoe..05:29
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tcpdumpAlright everyone, I just did a distro upgrade on a server from 14.04 to 16.04 - On reboot I get this...05:44
tcpdumphttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/VhEOZj1b/05:44
OerHekstcpdump, sounds like you hit the new feature, predictable interface naming, no more eth0 but ensp0 https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/05:47
tcpdumpIs there a way to boot into a recovery console of sorts?05:47
tcpdumpOerHeks: hmm, so any idea how to fix it?05:48
tcpdumplol05:48
OerHekstcpdump,  you cabn try to disavle this feature on the bootline with net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0 >>  http://askubuntu.com/questions/803322/properly-disabling-predictable-interface-naming-on-xenial05:48
OerHeks-b05:48
OerHeksor change your network config and get used to it :-)05:49
tcpdumpOerHeks: I use fedora normally, so Im already used to it. :D05:49
tcpdumpbut my server wont boot because of it.05:49
tcpdumpIs there a safe mode of sorts?05:50
tcpdumpwhere I can go in and fix things?05:50
OerHeksoke, boot ( hold shift @ boot) and grubmenu appears, choose recovery05:50
manish_how to install game in linux ?05:51
OerHeksmanish_, open softwarecenter, search game, click install, enter password and go05:51
CrazyTuxhello, just want to report a bug. The bluetooth indicator in Xubuntu 16.10 is not working, I think. I wanted to turn bluetooth off. I am not able to.05:51
ldleworkerI let my laptop die in the middle of a do-release-upgrade and now it wont boot. I have it dropped into some BusyBox recovery console. Is there a way I can mount my hard-drive and a flash drive and copy stuff out before reinstalling Ubuntu? Sorry if I'm a little panicked.05:53
lotuspsychjeldleworker: you could try a liveusb and chroot into your files perhaps05:55
ldleworkerlotuspsychje, I can't do that from this busybox initramfs?05:55
ldleworkerHmm I see there are no tools on this thing.05:56
lotuspsychje!mount | ldleworker you can try05:56
ubottuldleworker you can try: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount05:56
ldleworkerOK I'll get a liveusb going05:56
lotuspsychjeldleworker: and if things are totaly scrambled, there is photorec to rescue data also05:57
ldleworkerhuh I am able to see my files by mounting it05:59
ldleworkerso now I just need to mount the usb disk right?05:59
sintreyou boot from the disk then mount your dives discs05:59
sintrei mean you live media whatever that is usb or dvd05:59
WildPenguinwhen is the next LTS release going to happen?06:00
ldleworkersintre, why do I need to boot a live distro?06:00
ldleworkerlotuspsychje, this recovery environment doesn't seem to have fdisk. how can I mount the usb?06:01
sintreyou said you wanted to recover data06:01
sintremight be a good idea06:01
WildPenguinguys, can I test the next LTS release?06:01
ldleworkersintre, sure, but I also said I was able to mount the disk from the recovery busybox.06:01
sintreidleworker do whatever06:02
lotuspsychjeWildPenguin: 18.04 is next06:02
ldleworkersintre, dunno why you're being this way06:03
ldleworkerI mean, for example the fact this thing has no fdisk might mean I need a liveusb06:03
lotuspsychjeldleworker: can you try the recoverymode and fix the broken update?06:04
WildPenguinIt looks like 16.10 is somewhat unstable.06:04
ldleworkerdidn't know that was an option06:04
lotuspsychjeWildPenguin: 16.04.2 you can try, if you like LTS06:04
lotuspsychjeldleworker: not sure it will work, but worth a try06:04
lotuspsychje!recovery | ldleworker06:05
ubottuldleworker: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode06:05
WildPenguinI installed 16.10 because only in that I could open some pdf files that I couldn't open in LTS, despite trying everything.06:06
WildPenguinI concluded that 16.10 comes with newer versions of packages.06:06
ldleworkerlotuspsychje, hmm I don't have a (recovery mode) option06:06
ldleworkerI have (safe mode)'s though06:06
WildPenguinBut, now this thing freezes frequently and I can't do anything but press the power button on my laptop.06:06
lotuspsychjeWildPenguin: there are several pdf viewers to test on ubuntu06:07
WildPenguinReally annoyed.06:07
sintrewildpenguin > you can update many packages thru backports , not sure about pdf in patiicular but many other programs you can also install06:07
lotuspsychjeldleworker: do you see ubuntu kernel (previous versions) ?06:07
WildPenguinThat pdf issue is an old one. I raised the query here sometime ago.06:08
ldleworkerlotuspsychje, yeah I installed a couple kernels06:08
ldleworkerJust none that read (recovery mode)06:08
lotuspsychjeldleworker: one should show ubuntu(recovery) also06:08
ldleworkerYeah it doesn't :(06:08
ldleworkerlotuspsychje, maybe I can do it from a liveusb?06:08
WildPenguinguys, is 16.10 a little unstable as compared to LTS and is it buggy?06:08
lotuspsychjeldleworker: ok mate, try the liveusb method then06:08
ldleworkerhaha sounds good06:08
sintrehell who would of thought of that06:09
lotuspsychjeWildPenguin: please dont generalize things in support channel06:09
* sintre face palms fourth time today06:09
ldleworkersintre, at least I understand the conditions why, which I prefer06:09
WildPenguinI am a newbie.06:09
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WildPenguinDon't know what to do with it.06:09
lotuspsychjeWildPenguin: are you the same guy as crazytux?06:09
ldleworkerlotuspsychje, can I use a liveusb from the version I wanted to upgrade to? or should I use 14.04?06:09
lotuspsychjeldleworker: any version should be able to rescue data from06:10
WildPenguinyes. this is my other nickname.06:10
WildPenguinI got changed automatically.06:11
WildPenguinIt*06:11
lotuspsychjeWildPenguin: can you please stop trolling over and over with different nicknames06:11
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lotuspsychjeWildPenguin: you have been asking the same questions to volunteers now, without learning from it06:12
CrazyTuxok. I'll see that I appear only with this nick06:12
CrazyTuxDidn't get any workable solutions.06:12
lotuspsychjeCrazyTux: you have been given alot of choices and solutions, still you come back here spamming the same questions06:13
lotuspsychjeCrazyTux: if you keep doing this, it will get you banned, is that what you really want?06:14
CrazyTux_hello, sorry. there was a disconnection06:14
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CrazyTuxhello guys, there was a disconnection.06:19
lotuspsychjeCrazyTux: please learn from the solutions we offered06:21
CrazyTuxok. Please tell me what do I have to do to prevent that random freezing of the OS?06:21
lotuspsychjeCrazyTux: you have asked that like tons of times06:23
sintrethats like asking us to have a magik ball06:23
sintrefirst thing you can do is check system resources06:23
sintresee whats eating up your physical ram and your swap file06:24
CrazyTuxone question. Does installing multiple DEs cause such a problem?06:24
sintreCrazyTux this are redundant questions06:24
CrazyTuxI don't have any technical knowledge about these.06:25
sintrethen why did you install them?06:25
CrazyTuxOk. Leave all that. I'll reinstall it.06:25
sintreCrazyTux i suggest sinse you've worn alot of peoples patience thin here don't go reinstaall then come back asking for support for them06:26
sintreWe're not free esl practice partners06:26
CrazyTuxok. let me sort that out myself.06:27
CrazyTuxthanks a lot for ur suggestions.06:27
anddamhello06:29
anddamneed some NFS help, my autof setting for a NFS share are accepted fine and the autofs mount is listed on client, but I see no directory with the map name on the target06:29
anddamif I mount it expliitly with mount I see the mount working as expected06:30
anddamexplicitly06:30
anddamthis is my config https://gist.github.com/anddam/181bcae70288d319dc1ace4ed6964080 , the relevant part at least06:30
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vltHello. On our Ubuntu 16.04 machine running perfecetly fine for weeks now, since today not a single user can run firefox. The error message is ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 29685.  Any idea what happened and how to fix it?06:41
cfhowlettvlt, sounds like something you should ask mozilla?06:41
cfhowlett#mozilla06:41
vltcfhowlett: Thank you.06:42
cfhowletthappy2help! vlt06:42
platzhir1Any idea why my service (upstart) /etc/init/what.conf is not visible? When running $ service what status it says unrecognized service / file not found06:44
platzhir116.0406:44
manish_How to install game in ubuntu ??06:44
lotuspsychje!systemd | platzhir106:45
ubottuplatzhir1: systemd is the default init system for Ubuntu 15.04 onwards. For information on transitioning from upstart to systemd, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers For a guide to basic service management with systemd, see https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units06:45
sintre!games06:45
ubottuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://www.penguspy.com/06:45
sintrethx ubottu06:46
aavrug_I am trying to install libmysqlclient-dev in ubuntu16 but getting error sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install lib32z1-dev06:46
platzhir1lotuspsychje: oh I knew it, thanks06:46
ldleworkerlotuspsychje, I just booted into 16.0406:46
ldleworkerlotuspsychje, live USB06:47
aavrug_Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/zlib1g-dev_1%3a1.2.8.dfsg-2ubuntu4_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)06:47
aavrug_I also tried google solutions but nothing working for this.06:47
ldleworkerNeat 16.04 doesn't find my wifi card06:48
ldleworkerIts 2003 all over again ^_^'06:48
ldleworkerMy touch screen works though!!!06:48
sintreidleworker start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports06:49
ldleworkersintre, what will I be getting backports of?06:50
sintreupgraded packages of everything06:50
sintreprograms drivers ect.06:50
ldleworkerisn't 16.04 the latest ubuntu?06:50
sintreno06:50
ldleworkerLTS?06:50
cfhowlettIdleOne, IF and only if such things were backports06:50
sintrethat lts long term support release06:50
sintrebut most programs and other major things can be upgraded06:51
ldleworkerwait I'm confused. the LTS release doesn't have the drivers but some other non-LTS release does?06:51
ldleworkerAnd I should use backports to get the drivers. Correct?06:51
sintrenewer version are work in progress long term support releases are just that meaning they';ll be supported long term software and all06:52
ldleworkersintre, also this is just liveboot. do you know what recovery option lotuspsychje was talking about06:52
sintrei honestly wasn't paying attention to your chat with that user06:52
sintreso i couldn't tell you06:52
sintreand honestly i still don't know what your main problem is06:53
sintrewant to articulate it for me06:53
ldleworkersintre, Oh I accidentally let my laptop lose power when doing do-dist-updrade or whatever the exact command was06:53
ldleworkerfrom 14.04 to 16.0406:53
ldleworkerand then it wouldn't boot saying it couldn't find /sbin/init06:54
ldleworkerstupid I know :/06:54
sintreok so first thing from live i would do is get all data off of it that is 100% needed incase something goes wrong06:54
lotuspsychje!chroot | ldleworker06:54
ubottuldleworker: A chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot06:54
lotuspsychjehe's trying to get his files back over a borked update system guys06:54
ldleworkerlotuspsychje, hmm yeah the liveboot moutned my disk I see all my files. you're saying chroot the disk. then what?06:55
sintreget it to another disc or media06:55
sintrelol06:55
lotuspsychjeldleworker: if you can see all your files, just drag n drop to a backup media right06:55
anddammanish_: also http://playdeb.net06:55
ldleworkerOh I thought you were suggesting to use liveusb to "finish" the update or fix it or whatever06:55
sintredon't do anything till you recover your stuff06:56
lotuspsychjeldleworker: no, in most cases an interrupted update/upgrade will brake system06:56
sintrethen we can try creatice solutions to your botched install06:56
ldleworkerAlright, well then I guess the path forward is simple.06:56
ldleworkerI suppsoe I should make sure that backports actually fixes the wifi driver first?06:56
ldleworkerbefore going to 16.04?06:57
sintreand honestly after recovery try to fix the broke system would take 5x what a new install would06:57
sintreif it works06:57
ldleworkerYeah exactly06:57
ldleworkerI'm find with wiping06:57
sintrei've broken mine plenty of times with every flavour of unbuntu06:57
cfhowlettldleworker, your system is unstable and highly likely to break.  "fixing" a borked upgrade is highly unlikely.  better to backup your data and clean install 16.04.06:57
ldleworkerBut is there a chance that 16.04 just wont have backports available for my wifi?06:57
ldleworkerIts a dell XPS 1506:57
sintreit will work06:58
ldleworkerOK I'll try it in the live usb environment after backing up my stuff06:58
CrazyTuxguys, I think I found out the reason for that random freeze.06:58
ldleworkergonna be a long ass night06:58
sintrei have a 10 year old 1.4 core 2 duo and a 2 ghz 13 less than 5 months old06:58
sintredrivers found for both06:58
ldleworkersintre, sure but this laptop was available when 16.04 was made06:59
CrazyTuxI have Xubuntu 16.10 and Mint installed on my laptop. Allocated 4 GBs of swap during Mint installation.06:59
sintreidleworker the lts was made for all systems06:59
ldleworkersintre, I'll trust ya :) I appreciate your help06:59
vltHello. On ALL our Ubuntu 16.04 machines running perfecetly fine for weeks now, since today not a single user can run firefox. The error message is ExceptionHandler::GenerateDump cloned child 29685.  Any idea what happened here to all machines at once and how to fix it?06:59
sintrepls just come back and tell us you backed you data up lol06:59
CrazyTuxNow I am using Xubuntu 16.10 and when I type sudo swapon --show in the terminal, it doesn't show any result. Does it mean no swap is allocated to Xubuntu?07:00
CrazyTuxHow can I allocate the swap to Xubuntu now?07:00
sintrevlt you've said that and were directed to another channel less than 30 minutes ago07:00
cfhowlett!swap | CrazyTux07:00
ubottuCrazyTux: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info07:00
sintreCrazyTux join #Xubuntu07:01
ldleworkerHmm the USB disk I put the live CD on is 64 gigs. Is there anyway to put my backed up data onto it? It seems the total space reports 2.2 gig.07:01
CrazyTuxok. When I type sudo swapon --show in Mint Terminal it show some result. But, in Xubuntu it doesn't.07:01
CrazyTuxI think it could be because of this that Xubuntu is freezing randomly.07:02
sintreidleworker get another usb drive or external drive07:02
cfhowlettCrazyTux, sounds like xubuntu doesn't see that partition then.  I think fstab is involved but I don't know what to do to reset it07:02
sintreif not available just call it a night07:02
sintreget one tomorrow07:02
CrazyTuxI am too new to Linux. Clueless now.07:02
sintreno clue whats going on with that flash drive07:03
manish_how to install ubuntu ?07:03
sintreCrazyTux i told you not to come back wanting support for unsupported thuithings07:03
cfhowlett!install | manish_,07:03
ubottumanish_,: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate07:03
anddamI don't understand the meaning of the "+auto.master" line in default /etc/auto.master file, checked auto.master(5) but the syntax between DESCRIPTION and FORMAT doesn't seem to be coherent07:05
manish_what is the best way to learn bash scripting ?07:06
cfhowlettask #bash manish_07:06
anddamalso check ##best07:09
vltsintre: it happens on ALL machines!07:09
vltsintre: I hadn’t realized this before.07:09
sintrevtt what is your firefox version07:10
ldleworkersintre, hmm how will I get the backports if I can't connect to the internet07:11
ldleworkerShould I skip 16.04...?07:12
sintrewhy can't you get on the internet?07:12
cfhowlettldleworker, backports are the least of your issues.  your present system is borked.  reinstall it07:12
vltsintre: 52.0+build2-0ubuntu0.16.04.107:12
ldleworkercfhowlett, sure, the question is what version of ubuntu install...07:12
cfhowlettldleworker, LTS.  choose one.07:13
vltsintre: There seems to have happened an (automatic) upgrade last night from 51* to 52*.07:13
ldleworkercfhowlett, if 14.04 is the last version that works out of the box it seems bad idea to upgrade07:13
sintre16.04.2 will work fine07:13
ldleworkersintre, I'm running that in live usb right now07:13
ldleworkerno network devices found07:13
sintreand sinse its on your stick just use that to install after you backup07:13
ldleworker...07:13
ldleworkerit doesn't find the network card.07:13
sintre16.10 won't fix that07:14
sintreyou need to figure out the network07:14
vltHow can I revert the Firefox upgrade that happened last night on my Ubuntu 16.04 machines?07:14
ldleworkersintre, I know what network I wanna connect to.07:14
sintreplug it into a physical router thru a cat five cable07:14
sintrestop worrying about the wifi now07:15
sintreand btw your stick can install it , it doesn't need the internet07:15
sintrein fact my advice is DON'T install upgrades thru the inter while upgrading to avoid problems such as your having07:15
ldleworkerdude not all laptops have ethernet these days07:16
ldleworkerlike this one07:16
cfhowlett***this*** +!07:16
lotuspsychjevlt: its not recommended to revert packages to older ones07:16
ldleworkercfhowlett, ?07:16
geirhavlt: you can install a specific package version with   apt-get install <packagename>=<version>07:16
sintrewell if you bought some crappy revived version of a netbook nothing i can do for you07:16
cfhowlettldleworker, do not do a hot upgrade.  clean install.  as sintre suggested07:16
ldleworkercfhowlett, please stop repeating the same advice07:17
ldleworkerI am willing to do a full install.07:17
vltlotuspsychje: 46 users would like to run firefox now.07:17
ldleworkerI want to. Not to a version of ubuntu that has no drivers for my wifi card.07:17
sintreidleworker if you won't let us help you we can't07:17
ldleworkerlol how am I preventing you from helping me?07:17
geirhavlt: won't stop it from being automatically being upgraded again though, but hopefully there's a fixed version by then07:17
vltgeirha: Thank you. How to find out the exact version string?07:17
geirhaapt-cache policy packagename07:17
ldleworkerby reporting the details of the situation? you just acknoweldged that you understood the problem and that you can't help/07:18
ldleworkerseems unnessecary to accuse me of being difficult :(07:18
sintreyes i'm a idiot and your the one who has every exuse not to do what has been suggested07:18
sintrei'm done helping you07:18
ldleworkerI didn't say you were an idiot?!07:18
ldleworkerI said you acknowledged my problem07:19
ldleworker"<sintre> well if you bought some crappy revived version of a netbook nothing i can do for you"07:19
ldleworkerThanks...07:19
lotuspsychjesintre: please remain calm and polite in support07:19
sintrenothing left for me to say so no problem07:19
ldleworkerlotuspsychje, is the problem as bad as sintre says?07:19
ldleworkerThat if 16.04 doesn't have drivers for my wifi I'm screwed?07:20
sintrei never aid that07:20
lotuspsychjeldleworker: you cant generalize things too quickly, we find solutions in many cases07:20
vltgeirha: policy only shows the current 52* version of firefox and one 45*. How to get back the version 51* that worked perfectly fine until yesterday?07:20
sintrei said 16.04 is a lts release and is fully capable of supporting it07:20
ldleworker"<sintre> well if you bought some crappy revived version of a netbook nothing i can do for you"07:20
sintrethat was in reference to your exuse of not being able to hook your netbook up to a router via hard wire07:21
aavrugHey folks any solution for this  Errors were encountered while processing:  /var/cache/apt/archives/zlib1g-dev_1%3a1.2.8.dfsg-2ubuntu4_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)?07:21
geirhavlt: Hm, that would mean it's gone from the repo already07:21
ldleworkersintre, which is absolutely true. It has no ethernet.07:21
lotuspsychjevlt: instead messing with older versions, help the community and start a new firefox bug?07:21
geirhavlt: /var/cache/apt/archives may still have the previous deb07:21
ldleworkerSo I'm confused as to how to get wifi or any kind of networking, if 16.04 doesn't have it out of the box.07:21
ldleworkeror 16.10, etc etc07:22
lotuspsychjeldleworker: some systems need driver tuning before work07:22
sintrei have a 14 year old notebook and 216.04 picks it up07:22
ldleworkersintre, how does that help?07:22
lotuspsychjeldleworker: like installing restricted-extras for example07:22
sintre16.04 and a new 6 month old notbook and its wifi can be picked up by 116.0407:22
sintresomething else is going on there07:22
ldleworkerlotuspsychje, how can I install that. Would it be on the USB drive?07:22
* ldleworker tries.07:22
ldleworkernope. :(07:23
sintreand somebody else is going to have to help you with it07:23
lotuspsychjeldleworker: first tell us wich chipset your wifi is?07:23
ldleworkerlotuspsychje, do you know the command to figure that out? Something lspci?07:23
lotuspsychjeldleworker: sudo lshw -C network07:23
ldleworkerlooks like Broadcom Corporation BCM435207:23
lotuspsychjeldleworker: chipset and driver= loaded?07:24
sintre!pastebin07:24
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.07:24
cfhowlettfull instructions for installing broadcom 43** wifi support:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx07:24
ldleworkersintre, doesn't say anything like that. says `configuration: driver=bcma-pci-bridge"07:25
ldleworkercfhowlett, nice!07:25
lotuspsychjeldleworker: but before you try to install wifi, wasnt you going for a data backup first and clean install?07:25
vltlotuspsychje: First I have to let people work here.07:26
vltlotuspsychje: I already used the "send crash report to mozilla" function.07:26
ldleworkerlotuspsychje, the data is copying to the usb drive right now07:26
cfhowlettvlt, might a workaround be in order until ffox gets sorted?  chromium-browser works well07:26
ldleworkerlotuspsychje, I'm trying to figure out if an upgrade to 16.04 is tennable. If not I'll reinstall 14.04.07:26
hateballvlt: does it crash with new profiles as well?07:27
hateballvlt: Firefox, that is07:27
hateballI'm thinking if it's related to the removal of npapi support for stuff other than flash07:27
vltcfhowlett: Installing right now on all servers. The speed of the repo server is terrible :-/  What a morning!07:27
vltcfhowlett: Thanks, btw.07:28
vlthateball: Checking that ...07:28
cfhowlettvlt, wait whut?  you have - 46 servers?  I would think setting your mirror would be a high priority?07:28
cfhowletthappy2help!07:28
ldleworkercfhowlett, hmm, I'm not exactly sure what the page wants me to do07:29
ldleworkerit seems the kernel driver "bcma-pci-bridge" is loaded07:29
cfhowlettldleworker, you do not have internet access.  use the "no internet access" option07:29
vltcfhowlett: It’s six servers in six locations, so a local mirror doesn’t make very much sense.07:29
cfhowlettvlt, fair enough07:29
ldleworkercfhowlett, ah so get the proprietary drivers installed. Got it!07:30
untorehwhen a loop device gets partitioned, partitions are not updated and partx must be called manually, how to fix this ?07:30
vltcfhowlett: There are working up to 20 people simultaneously on one Ubuntu machine.07:30
EriC^^untoreh: that's standard07:30
cfhowlettvlt, impressive.  most - impressive.  (foreboding music plays)07:30
vltcfhowlett: The repo bandwidth is equally 175 kB/s for all my current apt processes :-D  (using sync’ed tmux panes)07:31
vltcfhowlett: And the worst part is: There’s isn’t much working going on right now :/07:31
cfhowlettvlt, you should share this is #ubuntu-server.  I would bet they have some nifty solutions07:32
lotuspsychjevlt: i would suggest a new firefox bug07:32
vltlotuspsychje: As soon as the last of my users has a working browser running.07:32
lotuspsychjevlt: if more users encounter this problem, you will help the community07:33
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vltAny idea why there’s not a single deb file in /var/cache/apt/archives?07:34
sintrehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search?text=firefox07:35
cfhowlettvlt, because you ran sudo apt clean && sudo apt autoclean07:35
sintremanual report goes alot further then just a auto bug report07:35
guest4385030iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -s ! 192.168.0.2 -j ACCEPT , error can not have ! before -j ?07:36
ldleworkernice I got it working07:40
vltWhere can I find a deb file of the latest working firefox 51* to install manually?07:41
sintrehttps://support.mozilla.org/t5/Install-and-Update/Install-Firefox-on-Linux/ta-p/251607:42
sintrehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion07:42
EriC^^vlt: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/07:44
vltEriC^^: Thanks!07:44
EriC^^vlt: np07:45
AfshaalLubuntu 14.04 and the Opus audio codec has been busted since an update for like two weeks or more now07:53
anddamnothing, I cannot figure out why autof isn't creating the subdirectory in the mount point07:53
Ben64Afshaal: elaborate07:54
AfshaalI sure hope libopus or whatever the problem library is gets fixed soon...07:54
AfshaalPretty simple, any video or bare audio using Opus audio doesn't play back on all the players I've tried since a couple weeks ago now07:54
JP____conclusion: never update :p07:55
AfshaalParole Media Player and VLC give some hints as to the problem at least at least07:56
JP____can't you reinstall the packages?07:56
JP____Maybe see if the older versions are still available07:56
JP____( or build them if you can get into the git branches)07:57
AfshaalVLC thinks the format is "undf" and Parole tries to get you to install the missing decoder for audio/x-unknown07:57
Ben64Afshaal: works here, must be you07:57
Afshaalwhat system and version Ben64?07:57
Ben6414.0407:58
AfshaalMy 16.04 desktop plays Opus fine07:58
Afshaalit's just this 14.04 laptop that's messed up07:58
JP____Afshaal: why don't you reinstall?07:58
AfshaalI've done nothing to my codecs recently so I can only conlude this happened in some sort of update07:58
Afshaalreinstall what?07:58
JP____Or did you try that already?07:58
Ben64well it isnt an update07:58
JP____libopus07:58
Afshaaloh07:58
Afshaalhmmm07:59
Afshaalhow?07:59
JP____sudo apt-get install libopus07:59
JP____it should update it if it isn't the newest07:59
JP____otherwise: sudo apt-get remove libopus07:59
JP____and then install07:59
Afshaalunable to locate package libopus, guess that's not actually what it's called >.>08:00
Ben64Afshaal: install mplayer2, try to play file, pastebin output08:00
Afshaaleven though that's what ffmpeg calls it08:00
JP____apt-cache search libopus gets you the package name08:00
AfshaalGot mplayer2 already08:00
Ben64so do the rest of what i said08:00
AfshaalHow do I make it spit out an output08:00
Afshaaloh run from terminal?08:00
Ben64yeah08:00
JP____yeah always terminal :p08:01
cfhowlettdoesn't everyone run from terminal?08:01
Afshaal[mkv] Unknown/unsupported audio codec ID 'A_OPUS' for track 2 or missing/faulty08:01
Afshaal[mkv] private codec data.08:01
Ben64pastebin08:02
cfhowlettAfshaal, all .ogg report this error or just this one fil?08:02
anddamcfhowlett: sure, I ran automount verbosely to no avail08:02
Afshaalall media with Opus audio encoded08:02
Afshaalwhether it's an .ogg audio file, .mkv video, etc.08:02
JP____afshaal: do the apt-cache search opus and check the lib you need08:04
JP____then reinstall08:04
Afshaalokay here's the pastebin http://pastebin.com/ia0ri5PU08:04
Ben64Afshaal: can you upload the file somewhere08:06
Afshaalwow apt-get remove libopus0 is going to remove 36 other packages08:06
Afshaalthis isn't going to break a ton of stuff that won't be fixed later is it...08:06
Ben64dont remove it...08:07
AfshaalI guess, hold on Ben6408:07
Afshaalokay here you go https://my.mixtape.moe/seswxd.mkv08:07
Ben64isnt made properly08:08
Afshaalno way...08:08
Ben64yep08:08
AtuMI wonder if this is some new way to distribute viruses ;)08:08
AfshaalI encode Opus stuff all the time and this file runs fine on my 16.04 ubuntu :/08:08
Ben64later stuff must have added support08:09
Afshaalso it doesn't play for you?08:10
Ben64nope, it isn't done properly to play here08:10
Afshaaland you have tested out other Opus files of your own on your system?08:10
Ben64yep08:10
Afshaalhmmph08:10
jlucHello all,08:11
AtuMAfshaal: It plays on my vlc just fine08:11
AfshaalCould it have been an ffmpeg update that broke things...  But why does it still play perfectly fine on my 16.04 system?08:11
Ben64like i said, later stuff must have added support08:11
AtuMThis does not mean that it's made correctly.. it just might be what Ben64 is saying08:12
Afshaallike I said, I encode this stuff all the time in the same way I always have and it's always played fine on this 14.04 system before08:12
AfshaalWhat in the world could have changed?08:12
AtuMAfshaal: what do you use to encode?08:13
Afshaalffmpeg08:13
jlucLast night i migrated a computer from ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, and then imported there some firefox and thunderbird profiles coming from lubuntu 12 or 1408:14
jlucall is fine except some mail content and some internet pages parts that appear blank08:14
jlucwhen looking at source i see white square instead of normal characters, as if the used font wasnt defined or doesnt contain the character08:15
anddamwhat confuses me is that mount correctly lists  "/etc/auto.nfs on /nfs type autofs (rw,relatime,fd=7,pgrp=9687,timeout=300,minproto=5,maxproto=5,indirect)"08:15
jlucit could be the system's default font : where is its config ?08:15
anddamand if I edit the auto.nfs content to an invalid server I have no complaint at all from automount08:15
anddambut the line in auto.nfs is correct, without typos, if I copy the remote path to an explicit mount command it's mounted just fine08:16
anddamwhat would prevent autofs from creating the subdirectories with key names from config files?08:16
SebthreeBQM10HDhi08:17
AfshaalI just don't understand what's going on here.  ffmpeg's tools for decoding Opus audio work perfectly fine, I can reencode to other formats and check the file attributes with ffprobe with no problem.  Yet media players that are literally based on ffmpeg can't open the file right?08:19
Ben64Afshaal: how are you encoding exactly08:20
alex_hi all08:20
Afshaalffmpeg -i vorbis.mkv -vcodec copy -acodec libopus opusreencode.mkv08:20
Afshaaltypical syntax ^08:20
alex_what is it "Hex Chat" ?08:20
AfshaalAn IRC client that was forked from Xchat08:21
Ben64Afshaal: where are you getting ffmpeg from08:21
AfshaalCanonical repo I think08:22
Ben64nope08:22
AfshaalOh?08:22
Ben6414.04 doesn't have it08:22
Afshaalah, it's this one actually: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kirillshkrogalev/ffmpeg-next/ubuntu08:23
Ben64there's your problem08:23
AfshaalI dunno, still doesn't explain why players based on ffmpeg can't recognize it08:23
Ben64you're using a completely different ffmpeg version08:24
AfshaalVLC doesn't have an ffmpeg dependency08:24
Ben64remember what i said about newer stuff08:24
Afshaalyeah but I didn't first encode this file on this system either08:24
JP____Afshaal: did you do the reinstall?08:25
Afshaalno08:25
Ben64won't help08:25
AfshaalWas afraid to break a ton of programs08:25
JP____How can you be so sure?08:25
Afshaal36 other packages to remove along with libopus008:25
JP____if you remove libopus0?08:27
JP____otherwise do: apt-get remove libopus0 > OhOh.txt08:28
Ben64don't remove...08:28
JP____that way you save what packages were removed and can manually restore them in case a reinstall doesn't automatically install them08:29
JP____Ben64: you got this?08:29
JP____I know you have more experience :p08:29
Afshaalit's a bunch of programs it'll remove08:29
Afshaalin addition to libraries08:29
AfshaalDoes this maybe have something to do with the avconv fork of ffmpeg and the removal/replacement in repositories08:30
Afshaaloh apparently avconv isn't in the repo either lol08:30
Ben64libav-tools08:31
manish_what is best tutorial to learn bash script ?08:32
EriC^^manish_: /join ##bash and check the links in their topic08:33
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ducassemanish_: it's #bash08:34
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manish_Ok thanks08:34
AfshaalI have no idea why avconv still exists, the ffmpeg project is back on track now08:35
anddamanother poor soul lost to bash08:35
Ben64Afshaal: you realize 14.04 is from 2014 right\08:35
Afshaalyeah I:>08:35
JP____What's wrong with bash?08:35
AfshaalFISH shell is for cool people ;)08:35
anddamJP____: syntax, for me08:36
FManTropyxI experienced problems upgrading my system08:37
AfshaalWell...  I'm not too sure how to resolve this problem outside upgrading to 16.04 (which I'm not even sure I want to do)08:37
FManTropyxdoes someone know what "some metadata was ignored due to errors" might indicate?08:38
FManTropyxthen I got "update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults"08:38
FManTropyx"Warning: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported."08:39
FManTropyx"W: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file '/var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/partial/adobe-flashplugin_20170214.1.orig.tar.gz' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)"08:40
FManTropyxwait, why do I even suddenly have a flash plug-in? I haven't installed that08:41
AfshaalI need sleep though, maybe I'll throw away hours of my time on this frustration again another time -_-08:41
Afshaalluckily I'm adept enough to just re-encode audio to something else in the mean time08:42
Ben64Afshaal: use ogv instead08:42
Afshaalthanks for the help08:42
Afshaalogg video?08:42
Ben64yep08:42
Ben64(or a better audio codec)08:42
Afshaalthe container doesn't matter, this is a codec problem08:42
Ben64wrong08:42
AfshaalOpus is the best :)08:42
Ben64it isn't08:42
Afshaalyeah huh08:42
Ben64but if you insist on using it, use ogv08:42
AfshaalI'll test that theory real quick08:43
Afshaalis .ogv the right extension?08:43
Ben64indeed08:43
Afshaalhaving trouble moving it from .mkv to .ogv08:44
Ben64moving?08:44
Afshaaloh right this is vp8 video08:44
Afshaalone sec08:44
Afshaalwow that works08:45
Afshaalvery interesting08:45
JP____Afshaal: luckily i am adept enough..... LOL08:46
JP____Well atleast you got it  working08:46
AfshaalWhat kind of video can ogv hold again08:46
Afshaalis it just theora?08:46
AfshaalSeriously though, what audio codec in particular do you think is better than Opus, Ben64?08:47
Afshaalthis ain't like current video matches between VP9 and x265 or whatever; Opus is the king of the hill today08:48
Ben64ogg, ac3, whatever the source is08:48
Afshaalogg is a container to hold Vorbis or Opus audio ;)08:49
Afshaalaac was competitive with Vorbus, but Opus blows it away08:49
Afshaal(Opus being the next generation codec after Vorbis)08:49
Ben64why are you re-encoding the audio anyway08:49
Afshaalcompression of course08:50
Afshaalgotta keep things tidy for social media and such08:50
Ben64so use a codec that actually works08:50
AfshaalOpus did D:<08:50
Ben64h264/aac08:50
Ben64works everywhere08:50
AfshaalI'd rather figure out what update broke most of my opus decoding08:52
Ben64it wasn't an update08:52
Afshaaleven busted in my web browser, which I know used to read em just fine08:52
boxbonjour08:54
thekoko_helle every body08:55
thekoko_in thirst time, excuse me for my english written, and my poor level whit ubuntu08:56
thekoko_i try to use application using my sound board, and, i find this message:08:56
thekoko_Error, couldn't open /dev/audio08:56
AfshaalAll right well goin to bed08:59
thekoko_i haven't got this repertory DEV/AUDIO08:59
Afshaalthanks for the help Ben64 and JP____, I have some more insight to investigate this again later09:00
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cheng1028hi09:04
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anddamoh shoot09:09
anddamI just had to try and access the subdirectory for autofs to mount it09:09
anddamyet it wasn't listed in ls /mntpoint and I thought there was some issue09:09
anddamand I was going crazy since I couldn't figure whatthe issue was09:09
ldleworkerHello. I am trying to install 16.04 from USB. The installation is a success, it tells me to restart the machine, and then I get a black screen with some text that says "No bootable devices afound."09:10
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anddamldleworker: BIOS/UEFI setup, I guess09:11
ldleworkeranddam, I don't know what that means09:11
vltthekoko_: What did you do, what did you expect to happen and what happened instead?09:11
anddamthat, in my opinion, there's an issue with the bootloader installed and your current firmware BIOS or UEFI setup09:11
ldleworkeranddam, what would the issue be? I was booting into Ubuntu this morning.09:12
anddamldleworker: I don't know, what partition table is the disk using?09:12
ldleworkerI... don't know.09:13
ldleworkerI have never had problem of this calliber installing Ubuntu.09:13
ldleworkerI told Ubuntu to erase the disk and install09:13
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anddamI'm not ure how the graphical installer behaves with regard to the bootloader, I think it'll infer the proper type from the partition table and that should be GPT by default, but I'm not sure09:14
anddamanyway stick around, someone more apt to help will likely reply09:14
tomreynldleworker: you could try the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair utility09:19
ldleworkertomreyn, I'll give it a try09:21
ldleworkerI keep reading that I have to install Windows WTF?09:21
tomreynldleworker: where do you read that?09:22
ldleworkerI've read it in multiple places09:22
ldleworkerA comment here, http://askubuntu.com/questions/848315/no-bootable-device-found-after-ubuntu-installation-hangs09:23
tomreynldleworker: when you use boot-repair, be sure to unplug any disks / drives you did not have attached while you installed ubuntu.09:23
F1nnyAnyone familiar with bcache by chance? Just want to confirm this is correct going for systemd-boot and bcache + lvm on luks. backing device would be /boot (ESP) then P2 would be bcache, then lvm on luks on the bcache device || cache device would just be a bcache device (full disk) -- that look right?09:23
ldleworkertomreyn, its just a laptop, there's nothing09:24
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FManTropyxwhy doesn't ImageMagick run?09:24
doge-dogehey guys, is anyone having VPN connectivity issues after the latest round of NM updates yesterday?09:24
tomreynldleworker: okay. sometime people have extra usb storage devices attached and then it fails to boot. so it seemed like a good hint. ;)09:26
ldleworkertomreyn, just the one with ubuntu live on it09:26
ldleworkergonna try the tool09:26
tomreynldleworker: yes this should be fine.09:26
FManTropyxI couldn't have imagined it it this hard to find an picture application on Linux that can do a simple crop operation :P09:26
hateballFManTropyx: imagemagick is a cli tool, in case you expected something else09:27
FManTropyxthen why is it in the menu?09:27
hateballFManTropyx: you can crop with GIMP, Krita, perhaps even in the default image viewer09:28
FManTropyxthere could be pop-ups to tell me what each program does09:28
FManTropyxI looked at Krita, but did not find crop...09:28
FManTropyxgimp probably takes an hour to start and I don't have weeks to learn how to use something that complicated :P09:28
hateballFManTropyx: in Krita it's under "Image"09:29
hateballcrop to selection, for instance09:29
hateballmaybe it's "picture" (I dont use english locale)09:29
CrazyHAfter making some cahnges to my evdev conf, how can I reboot evdev without rebooting X?09:30
CrazyHI'm running Ubuntu 16.0409:30
FManTropyxI have no crop under Image09:30
hateballFManTropyx: ah, it's called "Trim" in english09:31
FManTropyxso it seems, so that's crop and it is called trim just to throw me off? :)09:31
FManTropyxKrita also has a start-up pop-up, which has an empty button to close it09:31
FManTropyxok, it does not work09:31
FManTropyx"Cannot use OpenGL"09:32
FManTropyxshe says she needs at least OpenGL 2.0 or ES 2.009:32
k1l_FManTropyx: what ubuntu is that?09:32
FManTropyxI have an up-to-date Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS09:32
hateballFManTropyx: What GPU/driver?09:32
FManTropyxno idea09:32
hateballan older intel chipset will only have ogl 1.409:33
hateballFManTropyx: run "lspci -k" look for the VGA section09:33
k1l_FManTropyx: lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | nc termbin.com 999909:33
FManTropyxwelp, this is a HP business PC from 2007 with integrated Intel chips09:33
hateballFManTropyx: you could try launching with "krita --graphicssystem raster"09:34
tomreynor give gimp a try.09:35
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hateballYep, that too09:35
tomreynhardware from 10 years ago is best placed in a museum, not on / below your desk.09:35
FManTropyxlspci -nnk produces no output about vga09:35
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dod_Hello guys!09:35
FManTropyxwhy does Linux have to be so hard?09:35
FManTropyxon Windows things just work09:35
k1l_FManTropyx: please run my command and show the link here09:36
hateballNo point ranting, it doesnt help fixing the problem09:36
k1l_FManTropyx: and if you just complain and dont want to solve that issue, then this is the wrong place09:36
FManTropyxI ran lscpi -nnk and it has no output about vga09:36
dod_Somebody can help me? I want to run a program two times on my ubuntu, on windows i use profilemanager for it. There is something like profilemanager on ubuntu?09:36
k1l_dod_: what program?09:37
FManTropyxthere are lots of warnings09:37
dod_like a skype client09:37
doge-dogehave you guys tried using Firefox 52 yet, do you like it, and is it worth installing.09:37
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stratocastorNMhey dod, theres a system manager09:40
stratocastorNMgo to your unity button, system maneger, kind of like task manager09:40
dod_stratoscastorNM Realy ? okay i try to find it09:40
tomreyndoge-doge: that's not a support question. and you should install security updates no matter what.09:40
stratocastorNMor maybe system monitor09:41
dod_yea i got system monitor09:41
stratocastorNMcan see tasks there?09:41
dod_yea a lot09:41
doge-dogei'm wondering if it's interfering with vpn connections since it has a new "captive portal detection" feature...09:41
stratocastorNMdont go on a killin rampage. what you looking to do?09:41
stratocastorNMwhat program two times?09:41
dod_its called vcc, its a telephone client09:42
stratocastorNMoverwatch round brb09:42
stratocastorNMyeah, i suppose you can do that, seperate proceesss09:42
stratocastorNMwhats it for?09:42
dod_well i want to login as admin, and as an user09:42
dod_and i have to launch the client twice for that09:43
ldleworkeryay I got 16.04 installed09:45
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tomreyndoge-doge: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1307867#c709:49
ubottuMozilla bug 1307867 in Networking "How to turn off captive portal detection - detectportal.firefox.com/success.txt" [Normal,Resolved: worksforme]09:49
tomreyndoge-doge: which VPN client / mechanism do you use?09:50
doge-dogeopenvpn standard config09:50
tomreynthen it's unrelated09:50
dod_if i use two different user to run a program twice, is that possible ?09:51
doge-dogetomreyn, I use the terminal as well, can't be bothered by the NM09:53
tomreyndod_: yes, that's generally possible. but you may not get to see both of their graphical interfaces unless you start them from separate X sessions (which you would need to initiate before you start those separate processes).09:53
tomreyndod_: why would you like to login, to ubuntu (I assume) as an administrative and restricted (standard) user at the same time?09:54
dod_not in ubuntu, i have to launch the program twice, and log in as admin and as an user09:54
dod_in the program :) but i think i solved this09:54
dod_i test it and i write the result09:55
tomreyndoge-doge: to diagnose your VPN issues, you'd best review openvpn's log files, possibly altering log verbosity and restarting the client as needed as you go. you can also make the client run without detaching off your console so you can watch its output there.09:57
doge-dogeI never detach the console and there isn't any apparent errors in the terminal window, everything just 404's after the latest updates lol09:58
tomreyndoge-doge: so maybe you need to increase your openvpn client's verbosity10:00
CrazyHOn booting Ubuntu 16.04 I get the login screen, then an audio mute icon appears, then everything but the Ubuntu backdrop disappears and I'm stuck. Luckily I was able to hit CTRL+F1, login and type startx. How do I fix this?10:00
stratocastorNMgood luck dod10:01
tomreyndod_: i've never heard of a telephony software called "vcc", nor does a web search provide results for it.10:03
dod_tomreyn thanks for your help, its called virtual call center :)10:05
dod_well, i started it as root, and as an user, but thats not good10:05
tomreyndod_: confirmed, that's not a good idea.10:07
strkwhere should I file bugs against an ubuntu package ?10:09
Ben64!bug | strk10:09
ubottustrk: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.10:09
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strkthanks10:13
dod_tomreyn i solved it, ubuntu use same profile manager like windows, you can use --no-remote -p -x command10:13
strkI'm confused, bugs.launchpad tells me there's no "firefox-dev" package in ubuntu ?10:16
strkbut I have Installed: 51.0.1+build2-0ubuntu0.16.04.210:16
strkVersion table (from apt-cache policy) tells me: 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-updates/main amd64 Packages10:17
strkdoes 500 mean not available ? or what ?10:17
dod_thanks for your help guys10:20
dod_bb10:20
stratocastorNMnice work dod!!!10:22
tomreynhe left. geez this software he uses ships private SSL certificates with the client.10:23
untorehhow to make loop devices trigger udev rules ?10:23
blaazhi :)10:29
theptrHi is there a way to get my fingerprint sensor working in ubuntu 16.04 dell E6420. I found some stuff on Google but it doesnt work :(10:42
theptrI installed fingerprint-gui but is doesn't see the sensor10:43
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hateballtheptr: do you know the exact model etc?10:57
hateballtheptr: lsusb should show10:57
hateballfor googling purposes10:57
theptrhateball, Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0a5c:5801 Broadcom Corp. BCM5880 Secure Applications Processor with fingerprint swipe sensor10:59
theptrhateball, i also have been searching but it seems like there is no driver11:00
eltigreer11:00
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FManTropyxwhat's the EoL for 16.10?11:05
FManTropyxhateball, the raster thing worked to start it - thank you!11:06
hateballFManTropyx: :)11:16
FManTropyxI still don't know how to select an area and crop it, but maybe in the next few days I will find it out11:18
hateballFManTropyx: in krita?11:18
biomorphHi all...   I've just upgraded from Trusty - 14.04 to Xenial - 16.04 and I am having problems with libcogl1511:18
hateballFManTropyx: selection tools are on the bottom left, pick one that suits you11:19
hateballthen just select the area you want to keep, and trim it11:19
biomorphMany packages depend on libcogl20 which will not install because it breaks libcogl1511:19
biomorphI can't remove libcogl15 because various packages (including ubuntu-desktop) depend on it.11:20
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hateballtheptr: yea, a quick google didnt turn up much useful info. seems the smartcard bit of the chipset is functional tho?11:20
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lotuspsychjebiomorph: added ppa's of any kind?11:22
OlofLis there something similar to mremoteNG for ubuntu?11:22
biomorphlotuspsychj:  Yes I did......11:22
biomorphlotuspsychje, in fact quite a few.11:23
lotuspsychje!ppapurge | biomorph perhaps try to fix this first11:23
ubottubiomorph perhaps try to fix this first: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html11:23
FManTropyxI think I managed it... how can I launch the default image viewer from command line?11:23
biomorphlotuspsychje, ubottu, Sorry - the upgrade process removed all PPAs, so i no longer have them11:24
hateballFManTropyx: xdg-open filename.jpg11:24
FManTropyxtwo more thank you's, hateball!11:26
biomorphlotuspsychje, ubottu, libcogl15 is the trusty version 1.16.2-111:26
hateballFManTropyx: :)11:27
F1nnyHey guys, any idae why echo cset.uuid > /sys/block/bcache0/bcache/attach is tossing permission denied read only? I'm chrooted in during install and at beginning ran make-bcache -C [cache] -B [backing] then put in writeback mod and continued install, all working just saw somethin in wiki about attaching the first time being needed and it's throwing that11:29
biomorphI am considering booting into non-graphical terminal and removing ubuntu-desktop, libcogl15 and then re-installing ubuntu-desktop.11:29
biomorphThink that I may kill the system if I do that.11:30
F1nny(also note that cset.uuid is actually the UUID haha)11:30
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ethan-m43hi guys any good irc chat client for ubuntu?11:35
ethan-m43do you know any?11:35
BluesKajHI all11:36
ethan-m43I use hexchat but I cannot configure it to have many windows11:36
thyriaenethan-m43, hexchat is pretty nice - i think its the best one11:37
ethan-m43In older versions of hexchat or xchat I had many windows11:37
ethan-m43now I dont have many windows only one11:37
EriC^^ethan-m43: many windows?11:37
EriC^^what are you trying to do?11:37
ethan-m43I mean on the same window I had tabs11:37
ethan-m43and connected to many channels11:37
EriC^^press ctrl+t11:37
ethan-m43and servers11:37
Compuder_BobI'm setting up Deja Dup with password protection for the first time. AFAIK, it uses gpg encryption and would need the private keys along with my passphrase to restore the backup. If my computers HDD crashes, isn't that key lost and the backup unaccessible?11:38
EriC^^it still has that feature iirc11:38
ethan-m43ok I pressed c+T and opened new servers thanks11:38
EriC^^ethan-m43: np11:38
ethan-m43how can I do settings and preferences?11:39
ethan-m43I want to disable logs sounds etc11:40
EriC^^ethan-m43: there should be a menu at the top, file , settings ec11:40
EriC^^are you using unity/ubuntu?11:40
biomorphI can't be th eonly person who's hit the libcogl15 problem.11:40
ethan-m43I use ubuntu11:41
ethan-m43with unity yes11:41
EriC^^ethan-m43: put the mouse on the very top and a menu will appear11:41
ethan-m43oh i found it11:41
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Anthaas_If I add $HOME/bin to my $PATH variable, I have also included $HOME/bin/subdir, right?11:48
Ben64no11:48
Anthaas_Thanks11:48
Anthaas_Is there a way to reload your $PATH without relogging?11:49
FinalXif you added it to your variable already, it's already adjusted11:49
Anthaas_I've just added it to my .profile11:49
FinalXif by adding it to your $PATH you mean in .bashrc/.profile etc, then you need to rehash it11:50
FinalXor set it manually for just now11:50
FinalX. .profile # for example11:50
anddamFinalX: isn't rehashing for PATH?11:50
Anthaas_. .profile # worked - thanks11:50
anddamAnthaas_: the point is bash has different setting for login/nonlogin shell, and there's an env inherited from the session11:51
FinalX"." "sources" a script into your shell, .profile as argument then reads that file and processes it11:51
anddamAnthaas_: so where you set something is going to make a difference in having to login again or not11:51
anddamaccording to what shell your terminal emulator spawns11:51
FinalX# is just a comment char, and it + any text following it are ignored by bash; I do it so if people copy/paste, the comment after it doesn't get interpreted11:52
anddamlike using .bashrc is going to work right off since it's parsed by every instance11:52
FManTropyxis anyone still using csh?11:52
FinalXnot me, I'm using zsh mostly now :P11:52
anddamFManTropyx: likely, the world is big11:52
Compuder_BobDejaDup/Backup, how does the encryption work? Is it a static GPG key in DejaDup? Is it a unique key that will be gone forever if my HDD crashes? Can I restore a DejaDup backup on a differenct machine with only the backup-files?11:53
doge-dogehas any complained about failing vpn connections while I was away?11:53
Anthaas_Ahhh, nah, I never copy/paste commands haha11:53
Anthaas_Too many things can go wrong, including that new thing where people are hiding text in scripts they post online.11:53
FinalXAnthaas_: yeah. though on IRC that's kinda hard to do :P11:53
FinalX(technically not really possible... and on websites you can only do it with CSS tricks)11:54
Anthaas_Habit :P11:54
Anthaas_Still possible.11:54
Anthaas_Its a good habit to get into for that reason.11:54
toreteeee11:55
toretee11:55
toretee11:55
FinalXwell, I'm glad you don't just copy/paste. I rather have people taking the time to at least get what they're doing. Typing it yourself makes your brain work differently than just copy/pasting, too. It's the same with learning anything. Reading something, memorizing it, is different than writing it out again right after, somehow it sticks better if you do.11:55
torete#ubuntu mate11:55
thutroller11:57
doge-dogedoes anyone have a vpn here and updated to the latest network-manager yesterday?12:00
FinalXI use openvpn and network manager doesn't seem to have support for that, so haven't noticed any changes :P12:01
doge-dogebut you updated it nonetheless?12:01
FinalXI have no upgrades available on 16.04 now, so if it was out for that, then I guess :p12:02
doge-dogecan you do me a favor and see if you updated yesterday12:03
FinalXI'd have to reboot, currently in Windows to test stuff12:03
FinalXso I'd rather not now :)12:04
lotuspsychjethis morning there was a kernel & firefox update12:04
doge-dogeI'm talking about network-manager specifically12:04
sonu_nkhi i installed phantomjs on my ubuntu server.. not i want to check where it is intalled .. how can do ?12:04
lotuspsychjesonu_nk: perhaps with the whereis command?12:04
FinalXsonu_nk: did you install it as a package ? dpkg -L <packagename> will list the files installed by it12:04
Jarwinhow to disable my touch screen? im try to use bash script using xinput but the id for touch screen changes occonisaly...12:05
sonu_nki installed using this command  sudo apt-get install phantomjs12:06
lotuspsychjedoge-doge: in my dpkg log: 2017-03-08 07:00:57 configure network-manager:amd64 1.2.6-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 <none>12:06
doge-dogeokay and your openvpn connection is working normally?12:07
FinalXsonu_nk: dpkg -L phantomjs12:07
FinalXwill list the files.12:07
lotuspsychjedoge-doge: dont use vpn sorry12:07
doge-dogethat's what I'm interested in12:07
sonu_nkFinalX, yes its working12:07
lotuspsychjedoge-doge: have you tried a network-manager restart?12:07
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sonu_nkalso one more thing .. using this command  sudo apt-get install phantomjs ubuntu installed its lower version .. Why ??? but its have its new version on  phantomjs site12:08
altinhow do I make a chrooted user have its own /etc/hosts file ?12:09
altinjust copying the /etc/hosts file to chrrotdir/etc/hosts doesn't work :/12:09
FinalXaltin: you could set HOSTALIASES variable for the user, but other than that, not much.12:10
FinalXhave a look at http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/10438/can-i-create-a-user-specific-hosts-file-to-complement-etc-hosts perhaps12:10
sixtynineis anyone threr12:12
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Guest11114so ?12:12
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Guest11114what is this ?12:13
hateball!help | Guest1111412:13
ubottuGuest11114: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:13
hateball!support12:13
ubottuThe official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com12:13
bluez___hey guys12:14
Guest11114thank you12:14
Compuder_BobAnybody have experience with restoring DejaDup backups? I'd want to know if there's a unique key that I have to backup as well.12:15
doge-dogeoh wow I just discovered something with my vpn, it looks like just the dns isn't being brought over, I can ping IPs12:15
bluez___how can i install a newer library from zesty onto xenial?12:15
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Ben64bluez___: you don't12:15
bluez___ok so i have to build it myself for xenial?12:16
bluez___http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libavcodec-dev&searchon=names12:16
bluez___i need the newer libavformat12:16
pagiosuser1 ALL=NOPASSWD: sudoedit...    <-- here user1 is a user or group user1?12:16
Ben64pagios: user12:17
doge-dogehow would you manually set a custom dns server on a tun0 interface?12:18
pagiosben     group is %?12:19
Ben64pagios: check 'man sudoers'12:21
bobomahello. apt-mark hold package sets a package on hold.12:21
bobomastill, apt update wants to update it12:21
bobomahow to stop this?12:21
Ben64apt update doesn't update anything12:23
altinSo git uses getnameinfo to resolve host, which lib contains this function so that I know to include it in my jail chrooted environment?12:27
Compuder_BobAnybody have experience with restoring DejaDup/Backup- backups to fresh machines? Does it require a stand-alone GPG key or does it need the password only?12:30
bobomaBen64, right, I mean apt upgrade12:32
doge-dogealright guys I have the guilty network-manager version12:33
doge-doge1.2.6-0ubuntu0.16.04.112:33
pagiosBen64, user1 ALL=NOPASSWD: sudoedit /etc/network/interfaces <-- this means user1 can edit that file even if owned by root right?12:33
RonWhoCaresCan anyone identify what might be causing this failure while I was running upgrades for Ubuntu 16.10 http://pastebin.com/QkgQ3DD712:34
Ben64pagios: with sudo yes12:34
pagioshe can only exec that command12:35
steyn /join #xps1312:37
steynoops :p12:37
pagiosright Ben6412:37
pagios?12:37
vltHello. How do I file a new bug? I logged in with my lauchpad account but there I can't find any "new bug" button.12:44
vltvlt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/12:47
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vltApparantly our new Ubuntu 16.04 machines run automatic upgrades. Where is this configured? How can I disable this?12:55
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anddamin my mountpoint for nfs I don't see the directories in the fs with ls, but if I access the specific key the content is there. How can I make autofs create all the subdirectories when mounting a target point?12:56
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DJonesvlt: I suspect it will be in Settings, Software & Updates, Updates tab12:59
doge-dogeok guys I figured out a vpn workaround for now, just setup your connection in the nm-applet and don't use the terminal to connect, lol!12:59
vltDJones: I'm more looking for a config file in /etc.13:00
DJonesvlt: ok, not sure about a config file13:00
ligueHi everybody !13:00
vltMaybe /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades13:01
liguehave some problems with raspberrypi3 .. No sound and mozzilla doesn't works13:01
liguecan't help me ,13:02
liguenobody knows ?13:06
liguehola todo mundo13:07
liguepuede ayudarme con raspberry ?13:08
ligueBonjour tout le monde, quelqu'un peut-il m'aider avec la raspberry13:08
ligue?13:08
w9qbjligue, sound on the Pi-3, raspi-config has a setting to switch sound - hdmi or the 'phone port,  Also the volume may need to be set.  I forget the app. but it happened to me.13:12
w9qbjligue, might be alsamixer13:12
XXXfceWoo.  I launched xfce settings session and startup manager and tried testing a splash screen and I couldn't figure out how to stop the test.  Is it supposed to totally lock up the session?13:21
FManTropyxxfce does weird things13:21
noaerhi everyone13:22
FManTropyxhello13:22
FManTropyxthere is an #xfce channel, btw13:22
XXXfceI'm still trying to figure out how to use Linux.  Games don't work right (Path of Exile flickers constantly), pidgin is launching automatically and I dunno why, steam won't launch (missing drivers?)... But hey, I got spybox--I mean dropbox to run.13:24
XXXfceI swear this laptop had a bluetooth device but it doesn't show up in the device list.13:24
XXXfceAre these problems specific to xfce?13:24
noaerXXXfce,  no, it might be video driver issues13:25
noaercan someone help me, my lubuntu 16.04 boots very slowly after I installed kali linux and shared swap space13:27
noaerhere is dmesg: http://pastebin.com/raw/zwEUTsXQ13:27
XXXfceWill ifconfig list a bluetooth adapter even if the driver isn't installed?  How can I see if my laptop has a bluetooth adapter?13:31
ikoniaXXXfce: no13:32
vltXXXfce: You could try lspci.13:32
Ben64it wouldn't be ifconfig, that's for network devices13:32
Smarticles101Hey, I want to see what ports are blocked at my high school so that I know what ports are open for me to use on my server and such.  I know that I can use nmap to find out, but I also know that it is easily traceable.  I'm wondering though if it would be obvious that I nmaped or if there is some way I can make it less obvious13:32
Ben64Smarticles101: ask the networking person at the school13:33
XXXfceAha, there's my bluetooth.  Thanks, Vlt.13:34
XXXfceNow to figure out how to get it to work...13:35
XXXfceThe bluetooth settings gui just doesn't work.  I get a small window with nothing in it.  And it won't even respond to normal attempts to close.13:37
Ben64XXXfce: what is the output of 'rfkill list' ? pastebin it13:38
TheAmorphousIs it possible to get a higher resolution than 1024x768 using x11vnc on a headless box?  Using a dummy driver or anything?13:39
Ben64TheAmorphous: you can get any resolution you want13:40
hackourHello  what the best for laptop dual core and 3gb ram ubuntu 12 or 16?13:41
TheAmorphousBen64 Any links to how I can accomplish that?  It's maxing out at 1024x768, even though xrandr displays a maximum of 8192x819213:42
brainwash!eol13:42
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades13:42
Ben64TheAmorphous: check the man page for x11vnc13:42
hackourany help ?13:43
XXXfceI've got a weak wifi signal... Internetting is painful.13:43
TheAmorphousBen64: I've been there as well as the ArchWiki.  Couldn't find anything relating to headless resolutions.13:43
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RonWhoCaresCan anyone identify what command(s) I need to give to resolve the error I am receiving when trying to update ubuntu 16.10? http://askubuntu.com/q/890891/45333613:43
Ben64TheAmorphous: why do you keep saying headless? it's just resolution13:44
TheAmorphousThere's no monitor plugged into this box13:44
Ben64that is irrelevant13:44
TheAmorphousWhen a monitor is plugged in I get the resolution of the monitor in the VNC session13:44
TheAmorphousWith no monitor it defaults to 1024x76813:44
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hackourguys ubuntu 16 vs 12 for dual core laptop and 3 gb ram?13:44
Ben64hackour: ubuntu 12.10 is dead, and 12.04 is dying next month, bad choice13:45
alphastromhackour 16 is fine for you13:45
RonWhoCareshackour: My 2 cents: 16.04 will have support until 202113:45
hackourbut ubuntu 16 is slow13:45
Ben64there is no "ubuntu 16"13:45
Ben64there is 16.04 and 16.1013:45
hackouri mean the last one lts13:46
RonWhoCareshackour: You are going to have issues with the programs you use having conflicts and not be able to resolve them.13:46
Ben6416.04 isn't going to be any slower really, just use lubuntu xubuntu or ubuntu mate13:46
hackouri like unity :(13:47
XXXfceI think it's my network's dns.13:47
RonWhoCareshackour: I am running 16.10 for 4 gig of memory.  You could resolve some of the slowness by a 7200 RPM hard drive or SDD13:47
XXXfceBen64: Having trouble with pastebin, but only my wireless shows up in rfkill list13:47
XXXfceBen64: http://pastebin.com/LQ7i8JC713:47
alphastromhackour works well for me with quadcore and 4gb ram, should be fine for your system13:47
hackouralphastrom, you have quadcore i have dual core13:47
alphastromhackour load avarage < 113:48
Ben64XXXfce: unlikely to get bluetooth then13:48
XXXfceHow hard is it to move from 16.04 to 16.10?13:48
Ben64not13:48
hackourok thx guys13:48
RonWhoCaresActually hackour13:48
Ben64but why? 16.04 is supported until 2021, 16.10 is supported until july13:48
RonWhoCareshackour: You could try 16.04 using a live USB drive before installing to see about the speed issue13:49
hackourRonWhoCares, ok bro thank you :)13:49
XXXfceI dunno, just curious how easy it is to change versions.13:51
RonWhoCaresXXXfce: You could do it in terminal without an issue, with an Internet connection13:52
XXXfceThis computer behaves differently than my kubuntu computer with xfce installed later.13:53
starsailorhey13:56
starsailorI need popcorn time debian packecege13:57
starsailorpopcorntime not working my elementary os system13:57
starsailorpls help me ?13:57
Ben64!elementary | starsailor13:57
ubottustarsailor: Elementary OS is an Ubuntu derivative which is supported in their IRC channel #elementary on irc.freenode.net - http://elementaryos.org/ for more information on this distribution.13:57
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wendicoHello, i have the official bootloader unlock software of my mobile. It consist only of a very small set of bats and a fastboot exe meant to run in windows. is it posible to port this to ubuntu so i can unlock my phone from my ubuntu computer? This is the link of the download from BQ http://www.mibqyyo.com/descargas/2015/11/23/desbloqueo-del-bootloader/ (is only 600kb) in case some expert can take a look and tell me if could run this 13:59
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k1l_wendico: ubuntu has fastboot in the repos and you can use fastboot without windows .exe14:00
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k1l_wendico: and i guess xda-developers has some howto for unlocking the android device with running a linux14:02
RonWhoCaresHi k1l_14:04
RonWhoCaresk1l_: I am having a new error.  Is there a simple explanation / resolution @ http://askubuntu.com/questions/89089114:04
k1l_RonWhoCares: did you manually remove kernel stuff on your system?14:06
RonWhoCaresno14:06
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RonWhoCaresk1l_: Should I?14:06
k1l_RonWhoCares:  no. that is what the error says14:06
RonWhoCaresI honestly didn't14:06
ALFAmora carnagione scura coda di cava<llo occhi neri formosa14:06
anddamon macos I'm able to insert a newline in a GUI text field (multiline ofc) by using alt-enter, I figure this is a "return" or so, but how can I type the same in Unity?14:06
k1l_RonWhoCares: "ls -al /lib/modules/ | nc termbin.com 9999"14:07
anddamthe rationale is typing in a multiline entry in web chat14:07
RonWhoCaresk1l_: http://termbin.com/617y14:07
k1l_RonWhoCares: and please a "dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999"14:07
mcphailanddam: "ctrl-J" is the standard keybinding. Does that work in your program>14:07
RonWhoCaresk1l_: http://termbin.com/bxsf14:08
anddammcphail: but in GUI apps ctrl- shortcuts are usually bound to something14:08
anddammcphail: in the case of firefox the focus jumps to the URL bar14:08
mcphailanddam: then that is a bug in the GUI program. They shouldn't steal ctrl-J14:08
k1l_RonWhoCares: ok, there seems to have been some more issues14:09
RonWhoCaresyes14:09
RonWhoCaresk1l_: A sudo apt-get update failed14:09
anddammcphail: even gedit14:10
wendicok1l_: thank you, so could i just assume that because in the unlock . bat it only says: "fastboot oem unlock-go" i could do it on my ubuntu with same command?14:10
k1l_RonWhoCares: "cat /var/log/apt/term.log | nc termbin.com 9999"14:10
k1l_wendico: yes14:10
anddammcphail: I figure gtk (and other GUI frameworks) won't respect that14:10
wendicoThank you very much. k1l_14:10
RonWhoCareshttp://termbin.com/bu1g14:10
anddamisn't there a ctrl-enter, alt-enter kind of thing?14:11
anddamalso how would I go in order to reassign a couple of keys like those, is this a Xorg config?14:11
superwizardmy wireless drivers are not working14:11
RonWhoCaresk1l_: http://termbin.com/bu1g14:12
k1l_RonWhoCares: "cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999"14:15
RonWhoCaresk1l_: http://termbin.com/umck14:15
k1l_RonWhoCares: ok, that is the issue. you did put the "intel_idle.max_cstate=1" manually there and it is totally at the wrong palce.14:16
RonWhoCaresk1l_: AHH!  Yes.  That was from our dialogue a few days ago.  Where should it be?14:16
k1l_RonWhoCares: "sudo nano /etc/default/grub"  then put the intel_idle.max_cstate=1 into the " " at the line before.14:17
professor_sadasdDid anyone's sound stop working recently?14:17
k1l_RonWhoCares: after that run "sudo apt install -f" and a "sudo update-grub" after that14:17
professor_sadasdfrom an update?14:17
professor_sadasddo i need pulseaudio? becausei dont seem to have it, but my sound was working a day ago14:18
k1l_professor_sadasd: only Lubuntu doesnt come with pulseaudio. the rest of the ubunut flavors do have that preinstalled14:19
professor_sadasdk1l_, mm thanks14:20
RonWhoCaresk1l_: Both are done14:21
k1l_RonWhoCares: did it bring errors?14:21
anddammcphail: wanna laugh? the web app support shift-enter for that, I was going mad with U+000D et al.14:22
RonWhoCaresk1l_: Look at lines 17 , 19-22 @ http://pastebin.com/PYNDE96C14:22
TvL2386hey guys, I'm trying to interpret oom-killer logs from `dmesg`, but having a hard time. Can anybody help me explain why the oom-killer killed the process? https://gist.github.com/TvL2386/6dd00e62bf6a1c7afc373df9fc03c22614:23
mcphailanddam: ha!14:23
anddammcphail: any chance you're the autofs resident in da house?14:23
TvL2386what I'm trying to find out is how much RAM the process that got killed used and what the memory used/free status was at the moment14:23
k1l_RonWhoCares: and please a "dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999"14:24
mcphailanddam: not me, I'm afraid14:24
RonWhoCaresk1l_: http://termbin.com/2pqm14:24
k1l_RonWhoCares: that worked now. all done14:25
RonWhoCaresk1l_: Thank you very much14:25
k1l_RonWhoCares: yes, in future dont just blindly put stuff into configs. look if that makes sense.14:26
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KOF2000-DEADHI14:31
KOF2000-DEADmy chrome ask for my linux password on start up each time i turn on my pc14:31
KaiForceI have a java process running on a headless server with no GUI.  How can I tell what launched it?14:31
KOF2000-DEADi am runing ubuntu 16.0414:31
k1l_KOF2000-DEAD: do you use autologin?14:32
KOF2000-DEADany help pleas14:32
KOF2000-DEADyes14:32
k1l_KOF2000-DEAD: it asks to unlock your gnome passwort keyring, where chomre (and other programs) encrypt their saved passwords to.14:32
KOF2000-DEADit ask for the linux password14:32
k1l_KOF2000-DEAD: yes, because its your linux users password manager14:33
KOF2000-DEADhow to fix this14:33
KOF2000-DEADruning 16.0414:33
k1l_KOF2000-DEAD: well, since you dont login at startup but use autologin this is the expected behaviour.14:34
KOF2000-DEADyes have read it online but no solution for 16.0414:34
KOF2000-DEADwhat i can find14:34
k1l_KOF2000-DEAD: so you want to make all passwords used by that user can be read by anyone?14:35
k1l_*everyone14:35
KaiForceKOF2000-DEAD: turn off autologon, and enter your password when you log in14:36
KOF200-DEAD???14:36
KOF200-DEADhow to fix this14:36
k1l_<k1l_> KOF2000-DEAD: so you want to make all passwords used by that user can be read by anyone?14:36
k1l_*everyone14:36
k1l_KOF200-DEAD: what you get there is not bug. its a security feature.14:36
KOF200-DEADi am the only user14:36
KOF200-DEADunderstand what you mean14:37
anddammcphail: too bad, I got autofs working but the subdirectories are not shown at fs level, that is by 'ls /nfs'14:37
k1l_doesnt matter. with that settings disabled everyone can read your passwords from that on.14:37
KOF200-DEADthere is only 1 user and that is me14:37
anddammcphail: I hoped someone would come out with "oh it's simple you just add the -show_on_fs=yes option to the config, but so far no luck. Seems autofs doesn't get much love around14:37
KOF200-DEADhow to do it14:38
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KaiForceKOF200-DEAD: Either enter it at logon, or enter it later.  Your choice.14:38
KOF200-DEADno other way14:38
bekksKOF200-DEAD: No.14:39
william_8086xiIDten -T error14:39
TvL2386KaiForce, do `sudo pstree -pa | less` you can see the hierarchy of processes14:39
KOF200-DEADok14:39
k1l_KOF200-DEAD: i guess you can try to set your password to blank. look at the password and keys in system settings14:39
KOF200-DEADlet me think14:39
k1l_KOF200-DEAD: but as already said, this is meant to happen to ask for the password.14:39
KOF200-DEADmaby it is good like this14:39
KOF200-DEADit kind of protection14:39
KaiForceTvL2386: thanks, I can't imagine what launched java on that machine14:39
KOF200-DEADthere wash alos a other problem14:40
KOF200-DEADi think i fixed with some commmends14:40
KOF200-DEADmy ethernet wash sometime not connecting14:40
KOF200-DEADwhen start up the pc14:40
KOF200-DEADthen when i shutdown my pc and start it over again it was working14:40
Pici!enter14:40
ubottuPlease try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone.14:40
KOF200-DEADbefore in windows 10 i dident have that14:40
KOF200-DEADi did somthing in the ipv614:41
KOF200-DEADSombody know where this come from14:41
TvL2386KOF200-DEAD, it would be good if you could keep your questions brief, concise and clear... I really have no clue what you're talking about14:42
KaiForceKOF200-DEAD: there is no possible way from your description that anyone could know what caused that.14:42
KOF200-DEADThe ethernet sometimes dont work when start up the pc14:43
KaiForceTvL2386: beautiful, it worked.  It was an application I forgot I loaded, thanks again.14:43
william_8086xiI think his spell-checker was hacked14:43
TvL2386KaiForce, yw!!!14:43
JP____lol @ spellchecker14:43
TvL2386sounds plausible william_8086xi !!!14:43
KOF200-DEADLAN dude somtimes not working when start up the PC when i shut down my pc and restart it again it works14:44
KOF200-DEAD??14:44
tawayHey guys, quick question. I'm rather new to linux (xubuntu) and I'm trying to get my wacom bamboo fun tablet to work with linux. I added the repository and tried installing the package but it says the package can't be located. Any ideas?14:45
tawayE: Unable to locate package wacom-dkms14:46
KaiForcetaway: after you added the repository, what did you do next?14:46
tawaysudo add-apt-repository ppa:doctormo/wacom-plus14:46
tawaysudo apt-get update14:46
tawaysudo apt-get install wacom-dkms14:46
tawaythis is all I did14:46
KaiForceok, i'm out of ideas, sorry!14:46
KaiForceI don't know how to check a package name against a repository14:47
Picitaway: what release are you on now?14:47
tawayhow do I know?14:47
k1l_!find wacom-dkms14:48
ubottuFound: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 19 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=wacom-dkms&searchon=names&suite=yakkety&section=all14:48
Picitaway: what does   cat /etc/issue   say ?14:48
KaiForcek1l_: nice14:48
tawayUbuntu 16.04.2 LTS \n \l14:48
k1l_that PPA only contains packages up to wily. so i guess its outdated14:48
k1l_and doesnt have stuff fox xenial14:48
KaiForcestuff fox sounds like a ubuntu release14:49
tawayhmm so any ideas on what I can try or will it simply not work?14:50
Picitaway: I'm not sure if it will help, but there is a xserver-xorg-input-wacom package available in 16.0414:50
spacebearhey is their an ubuntu dev around?14:50
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k1l_spacebear: depends on what the issue is14:51
tawaythanks guys! quick restart then I'll know if it worked14:51
spacebeark1l_, https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134543814:51
ubottuMozilla bug 1345438 in General "FF crashes after update from 51 to 52 on Ubuntu 16.04" [Blocker,Unconfirmed]14:51
spacebearfirefox 52 is broken on ubuntu 16.0414:51
spacebeartheirs a couple of us in the #firefox channel talking about it, it seems to be an ubuntu specific build issue14:52
k1l_!bug | spacebear14:52
ubottuspacebear: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.14:52
Picispacebear: Theres #ubuntu-mozillateam14:52
spacebearty Pici14:53
wendicohello, do i need a "boot" flag on my external sd card used just for data storage? i wanted to format it and used ubuntu gparted and i see a boot flag.14:53
k1l_https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1671079  sounds like this bug14:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1671079 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Firefox crashes instantly after update from 51.0.1 to 52 on Ubuntu 16.04" [Undecided,New]14:53
spacebearyup k1l_14:54
spacebearthats the bug14:54
spacebearhey Pici who should I bug in the mozilla team room?14:56
k1l_marking as affected helps to see the impact of the bug.14:56
Picispacebear: no one in particular, they'll see it when they see it.14:56
KaiForceI wouldn't bug anyone unless I were paying them14:56
spacebeardon't think I have a launch pad acc14:56
spacebearguess its time to make one14:56
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asanchez1987Hi. I'm trying to increase the 'open files' limit for a user without success. Added "username - nofile 50000" to /etc/security/limits.conf, also added "session requiredpam_limits.so" to /etc/pam.d/common-session, and also changed the 'sysctl' file limits, and then restarted. When I check back after reboot with 'ulimit -Hn' and 'ulimit -Sn', soft is still 1024 and hard 4096. Any suggestions? Thanks!14:59
away0Hey guys, I'm that guy that was asking about the bamboo tablet. Just restarted and now my keyboard + mouse won't work anymore in xubuntu? Any way to undo the changes? I can just reinstall linux but if I could just undo these past changes it would be a lot easier14:59
larmethey all -- having trouble with a usb key i am inserting... dmesg says it shows up, but then nothign14:59
larmetmay I paste the dmesg output?15:00
wendicolarmet: use something like pastebin then post link15:00
larmet@wendico...thanks... will do right now15:00
TvL2386larmet, I'd create a gist, or as someone earlier posted: dmesg | nc termbin.com 999915:00
larmethttp://pastebin.com/kRh67hQu15:02
KaiForceaway0: do you have a machine you can remote into the box with?15:02
k1l_larmet: "sudo parted -l"15:02
away0I have another machine here if that's what you're asking, still new to this15:03
k1l_larmet: wait, this is inside a vm? are you sure the host is not catching that usb?15:03
TvL2386larmet, whatever you are inserting is becoming /dev/sdb right according to dmesg, so: fdisk -l /dev/sdb15:04
KaiForceaway0: so you probably didn't install ssh on the affected machine?15:06
larmet@TvL2386... it returned NOTHING15:06
away0It's basically a fresh install15:06
TvL2386larmet, ls -l /dev/sdb ?15:06
TvL2386does it exist?15:06
larmetdoes not seem to...15:07
away0It's not a big deal, I'll just reinstall xubuntu, I'm just wondering how installing one package can have such effects.15:07
larmetIĺl just a fdisk -l15:07
k1l_larmet: does it show up on parted -l? does the Host give the full usb directly to the VM you are using?15:07
larmetlet me check parted -l15:08
TvL2386well, it's weird that dmesg says "[  511.387217] sd 32:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk". This means /dev/sdb should have popped up15:08
larmet(please hold...) :)15:08
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TvL2386hey guys, I'm trying to interpret why the oom-killer killed a certain process. It's happened a few times now and I wonder if there's a memory leak somewhere: https://gist.github.com/TvL2386/6dd00e62bf6a1c7afc373df9fc03c22615:11
koffeeguyhttp://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/gop-health-care-plan-critical-condition-n73058615:11
koffeeguyoopps sorry15:11
koffeeguywrong channel15:11
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KaiForceTvL2386: I thought I had a memory leak for a similar issue but I increased the RAM on the VM and watched the process it was killing and it needed more RAM than I was giving it.15:18
Disaster_Areahow do I update my graphics driver?15:18
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KaiForceAdding RAM resolved my "memory leak."  Just a possibility.15:19
TvL2386KaiForce, yeah thanks, it's just that my monitoring system is not reporting RAM increase. At 6:28 the process got killed and the measurement at 6:25 reported 2.318 MByte free. At 6:30 there was 2.570 MByte free.15:23
TvL2386and since this has happened 3 times now, I don't think it will stay away15:24
TvL2386btw: server has 4GB of RAM15:24
TvL2386purpose: glusterfs server (so oom-killing glusterfsd is painful)15:24
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KaiForceTvL2386: that doesn't sound like my situation at all..    Seems to be a little chatter on the net about it, some of it is old though15:26
wendicohello, im getting ready to install on a free partition an os that will install grub but will make my ubuntu unbootable. im scared of this since i dont know how to set up grub only (my ubuntu always looks and set up grub for all my operating systems). what is the easiest way to reinstall grub to boot my 2 old operating systems plus the new one installed? thank you very much.15:27
KaiForcehttps://github.com/RightScale-Services-Cookbooks/rsc_gluster/issues/7 will stop it from happening, not sure if that is good idea or not15:27
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KaiForcewendico: if you are nervous about it, I'd image the drive first.15:28
scottjlwendico: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair15:29
wendicoThank you. Im gonna go ahead make an image just in case, any recomended software to do that? can ubuntu do it without a new software? im also reading boot repair link, thank you.15:30
TvL2386KaiForce, yeah thanks... I also thought about that, however I'm trying to interpret the conditions of the server when it decided killing was needed. I'm hoping the oom logs show how much glusterfsd was using at the moment, how much was free, how much was the process using that was trying to allocate more? Maybe the mkinitramfs which tried to allocate memory was already using more than needed? I also read that the oom-killer can be invoked when there's too muc15:31
TvL2386h fragmentation? Was that the case here? I don't know... I'm hoping some "oom-killer log guru" is around here :-)15:31
scottjlif you have a drive you can duplicate to, dd can do it. else use something like gparted15:31
wendicoi only have free space on a used external partition, so i can only do an image file. can gparted do it?15:31
KaiForcewendico: clonezilla is my preferred tool15:31
scottjldo you have enough space to clone your whole internal drive to the external drive?15:32
MediocreNif so dd will work fine, if not, as Kai said, Clonezilla is a great tool15:32
wendico"sudo apt-get install clonezilla" done, reading manual. Thank u very much.15:32
scottjlyou could do something like dd if=/dev/sda | pv | dd of=/mnt/external/image.dd15:33
MediocreN^15:33
TvL2386hey wendico, not sure if recommended or particularly good, but what I always do is starting from a livecd and then dd the entire disk to something else (external usb hdd or through ssh to a server)15:33
TvL2386^ yeah something like that :)15:33
wendicook, i will look at this option aswell, i have a working live usb ubuntu 14, i suppose entire disk image is reduced on size to the real data usage, in that case i do have space on my external15:34
wendicoif image requires total size of the hd, i dont have space for that15:35
TvL2386wendico, if you want to make it compressable15:35
larmet@k1l_.... I am sure the host isnt catching the usb15:35
scottjlwendico: well a dd image will be the entire size of your drive, free space or not. it copies everything15:35
wendicolol, then i dont have space for that15:35
KaiForcewendico: clonezilla will compress (unless you choose dd option!)15:35
TvL2386wendico, dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/zero bs=1M ; rm /tmp/zero ; dd if=/dev/sda bs=1M | gzip > /mydisk.img.gz15:36
TvL2386so: write zeros to the disk, delete the zeroed file and then backup the entire disk and gzip it15:36
MediocreNTvL2386: damn. thats actually genius15:36
wendicook, thank you, im gonna read some literature on it just in case before proceeding15:36
TvL2386well thanks :)15:36
KaiForceTvL2386: I do something similar with VMs I back up over a slow WAN link to NFS15:37
scottjldd if=/dev/sda bs=1M | pv | gzip > /mydisk.img.gz   and get a status display15:37
TvL2386you could even do: pv /dev/sda | gzip > /mydisk.img.gz15:38
KaiForceThe nice thing about Clonezilla is that it is fs aware and can (in some cases) copy only actual data, ignoring all the unused whether zeroed or not15:38
KaiForcethe biggest drawback to Clonezilla is restoring a large disk to a smaller disk.  It can only do that in limited circumstances15:39
scottjlwell not like dd handles that case any better15:40
KaiForcetruth15:40
scottjlthen you're best bet is to take a file backup, good old tar.15:40
TvL2386KaiForce, funny thing about disk images is that you can actually mount them to a loop device using losetup and then partprobe (if I remember correctly) to just mount a partition15:41
scottjlya but that doesn't copy them back.15:42
wendiconevetheless im socked at seing this to be so complex, 15 years ago, i remember to do disk image ignoring unused space with a graphical interface tool of either partitions or full disk, i dont remember the tool name what it was so easy hehe15:42
TvL2386nope, but you can do file restore from a disk image15:42
wendicooh yes, that was norton ghost i thinkç15:42
KaiForcewendico: probably ghost15:42
wendicoyes that was it15:43
KaiForcefor windows only if I remember right15:43
wendiconot really15:43
wendicobootable floppy15:43
TvL2386I always used "Hirens boot cd" for such things15:43
wendicobut we didnt have this complex file systems that we use now15:43
TvL2386but since it's easy to accomplish, I'd like to do it myself :)15:43
TvL2386* Hiren Boot CD15:44
wendicois that tool still exist?15:44
KaiForceTvL2386: "Windows Server Backup" creates VHDs which can be mounted in Windows15:44
wendicoi prefer to donwload an stock a tool like that, im so dumb at command prompt, scripting and codding15:44
wendicoo yes, still exist, im gonna download and burn to usb just in case i find it easier hehe15:45
TvL2386http://www.hirensbootcd.org/download/15:45
TvL2386yeah KaiForce I know, not a big windows fan or guru here :)15:46
TvL2386I've played with HyperV :)15:46
wendicoim so ****** used to UI hehe15:46
KaiForceI loathe windows, but it feeds the kids15:46
hateballwendico: fwiw, it works fine (for me) to restore to a smaller drive using clonezilla with.. the option eludes me15:46
TvL2386lol KaiForce15:46
hateballwendico: so long as actual data is not more than the drive size obviously15:47
hateballwendico: and by default clonezilla uses partimag and not dd so it's only actual data saved15:47
wendicoof course, nevertheless i installed clonezilla but then i didnt find any icon to launch it15:47
KaiForceYes there is an option to do it, and since you have a drive image you can't really screw anything up15:47
wendicoand i hate command prompt15:47
KaiForcewendico: put it on cd or USB15:48
hateballwendico: you dont want to do it from within your booted system, use clonezilla-live15:48
wendicoahhhh15:48
wendicookey, going for it!15:48
hateballwendico: it's an ncurses gui, like a wizard. not really very difficult15:48
hateballthe most difficult step is picking "advanced" so you have the option to restore to a smaller drive15:48
wendicoperfect, i think with ui is gonna be easy for me, i use gparted a lot and used ghost long time ago15:49
hateballlike I said, it's ncurses. not a gui under X. but it works15:49
KaiForceif you realize that the first thing you do in Clonezilla is mount the source/target of your images, it makes sense15:49
wendicobtw, last question, isnt a graphical live tool to modify-restore-install grub?15:49
wendicosince that was really my biggest concern15:50
hateballthere are various such "rescue" distros you can do that with. or just your Ubuntu install USB15:50
KaiForceyou mean the boot repair thing?15:50
wendicoyes15:50
hateball!fixgrub15:50
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub215:50
hateballignore the bit about windows and only think of it as installing grub15:51
KaiForceI've used it and it hasn't failed me, but I never did what you are going to do.15:51
wendicoo yes, that was the link from before, i had it open but forgot to read it15:51
hateballwendico: oh you are planning to only clone a partition, not a drive?15:51
TvL2386wendico, that's exactly the reason I simply "dd" the disk somewhere. When dd'ing it back you get exactly what you got, including grub or whatever else was on the disk.15:52
wendicoim gonna clone all in a image just in case, long time i dont mess with my partitions, is being for real 10 years since i havent had any os problem15:52
hateballclonezilla offers that option as well, but then you probably need to run a grub-install afterwards yeah...15:52
Efseyhi15:52
hateballif you use the full disk option, then clonezilla will do it for you15:52
KaiForceclonezilla will restore grub as well, in fact you have to uncheck an option if you don't want that15:52
root____8hi15:52
KaiForceyes sorry with full disk15:53
root____8hola15:53
root____8necesito una solucion15:53
wendicoand of course, i may not have any problem now, but just in case, since im gonna try to install android on a spare partition15:53
wendicohola, este canal es en ingles, si no sabes, puedo ayudarte a traducir tu pregunta15:53
root____8a gracias15:53
scottjlthere's #ubuntu-esp i believe15:53
root____8muy amable, te comento que no logro entrar a la interfaz grafica de ubuntu,15:53
hateball!es | root____815:54
ubotturoot____8: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:54
KaiForcewendico will translate for root15:54
scottjlah es15:54
wendicoroot is having problems to enter graphical ubuntu interface15:54
geniiwendico: Default settings is that X is not allowed to run15:55
larmetI was able to get a printout from lsusb -D... http://pastebin.com/LNhUtyua15:56
larmetstill having issues with this usb15:56
larmetplease help15:56
wendicopero root, da mas detalles. es una instalacion nueva? se ha estropeado de repente? o que ha pasado para que no te arranque el escritorio?15:56
ducassewendico: good, don't log in to x as root.15:56
KaiForceducasse: !!15:57
root____8se estropeo de repente15:57
root____8justo antes de mostrar el escritorio se queda en pantalla negra15:57
wendicoroot: acuertade de que no tienes que logar en el escritorio como root, solo con tu usuario, root no puede abrir X por tanto no puede abrir el entorno grafico15:57
Pici!es15:57
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:58
wendicoy te quedas en la consola entonces? la consola si te funciona no?15:58
root____8a la consola llego por medio del grub15:58
root____8y no tengo problemas15:59
aotaointbinque15:59
root____8he intentado instalar los drivers desde el modo de recuperacion15:59
aotaointbinhablar ingles por favor15:59
wendicolol ubuntu no necesita drivers15:59
wendicoin a minute, root dont know english and ubuntu-es sleeping,15:59
root____8ok escibiré en ingles, perdon si tengo mala redaccion15:59
KaiForcecreo que los ops no quieren usar esta canal sin ingles.16:00
wendicowhat is the command to run X from console if login into ui dektop automaticly?16:00
aotaointbincouldn't you help him en espanol in ubuntu-es just like you're helping him here? :P16:00
root____8what is "run X"16:00
wendicoroot entra al canal #ubuntu-es y yo escribo aqui en ingles16:00
root____8?16:00
wendicounderstandable, i forwarded root to ubuntu-es16:01
KaiForceroot____8: mueva a la canal ubuntu-es16:01
root____8desde aqui typeo #ubuntu-es?16:01
wendicoescribe /join #ubuntu-es16:02
wendicoso i cant help him myself hehe, he is not loggin into ui auto suddently, what is the command to launch the desktop ui?16:02
KaiForcei rarely run the UI, I think it was at one point startx16:03
wendicosudo startx right?16:04
KaiForceprobably yes16:04
TvL2386wendico, you're not going to start the graphical user environment as root user right16:04
TvL2386everything is root then16:04
wendicooo yes right16:04
wendicoso only startx16:04
TvL2386when I had gentoo ages ago, I would boot, login as my user and type startx16:05
TvL2386not root16:05
wendicoi think he was trolling or something lol16:10
TvL2386who?16:10
wendicoi meant root, the spanish speaking16:10
TvL2386ah :)16:10
wendicoeven though i bothered to help him, he can log and chat on irc only with console but he dont know how to type startx on console xd16:11
koffeeguylol16:11
vltHello. In most programs ctrl+w closes a window, tab or file.  This doesn't work in inkscape since we changed from Ubuntu 12.04 to 16.04 LTS.  Ctrl+w will create a new empty document there.  Any idea how to fix this?16:12
ducassevlt: in many gtk applications you can change the shortcut by highlighting the menu option you want and pressing a new shortcut16:13
MediocreNAnyone know a good DB2 database or weird excel import issues IRC?16:13
ducasse!alis | MediocreN16:13
ubottuMediocreN: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"16:13
MediocreNyeah, i didnt see anything i would even call close :/16:15
MediocreNwas hoping someone would have previous knowledge on another irc server16:15
vltducasse: No, I was wrong.  Ctrl+w actually closes the window but simultaneously opens a new one.16:15
wendicoim curious, what "ubottu" stands for? why ubottu is calle ubottu? xd16:15
MediocreNubuntu bot i'd imagine16:15
FManTropyxUbuntu bot t[o] u (you)16:16
wendicoohh nice16:16
FManTropyxI would imagine the closing occurs first and creating a new one after that, rather than simulatenously :)16:16
wendicoCan i use ubuntu included "start up disk creator" to burn clonezilla, hirensboot and androidx86 to usb devices? or is just for burning ubuntu images? Thank you.16:19
MediocreNafaik its only use is for burning ubuntu images16:19
MediocreNuse rufus, or unetbootin for the others. Or learn to do it manually16:19
wendicohehe ill go for unetbootin, cant do manually16:20
S0baitHello I have a shell file with a function to do something, how can I turn that function into an executable command? I want it to remain as a funtion as I import it else where.16:21
MediocreNS0bait: as in you have a bash script with a function in it?16:22
S0baitMediocreN: Yes, and in another script, I source the file then run the function. However, I also want this function to be turned into a command which the user can run.16:22
scottjlS0bait: so make another script with the function turned into a plain old script?16:23
S0baitscottjl: Isnt that duplication?16:23
scottjlS0bait: life's full of duplications. so what?16:24
MediocreNyeah, i was gonna say the same16:24
scottjlcp function_script script.sh16:24
scottjldone16:24
MediocreNthen you can make an alias of script.sh16:24
S0baitscottjl: Okay, another question. Can I run a command from shell by doing something like /bin/bash file FUNCTION?16:24
MediocreNto whatever you want16:24
S0baitLike when I execute a shell script can I run a function specifically?16:24
scottjlno16:25
TvL2386wendico, dd $img > usbdev :)16:26
TvL2386there it is again :)16:26
TvL2386S0bait, you define a function in some shell file and want to just call it on your shell???16:26
TvL2386S0bait: source some_file.sh16:27
scottjlthat's what it sounds like TvL238616:27
MediocreNI think i know what he wants16:27
TvL2386and then call it16:27
scottjlis there some reason you want to keep it in one single file? you're just making life more complex.16:27
wendicoxd, i know u can do everything with the commands, but the only think u can do is understand how difficult is the shell, commands and scripting for an old man. Is as difficult as learning another speaking language. Imagine that i just tell u, learn german. so is as difficult for me to use commands as for you probably to learn german, i promise.16:27
MediocreNhe has a script with multiple functions, i think he wants to be able to run like script.sh -c and only run his 1 function16:27
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scottjlS0bait: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8818119/how-can-i-run-a-function-from-a-script-in-command-line16:28
scottjlthis isn't ubuntu specific in any case..16:28
S0baitscottjl: right I am doing that.16:28
TvL2386haha wendico, yeah sorry, I just couldn't resist :)16:28
S0baitscottjl: Just going to add aliases in the bashrcs of users that sources then runs the function. Can I make aliases sudo only?16:29
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wendicoi tried many times to learn, but just keep forgeting, i misstype and dont see where... and a long etc, as far as today i can just remember to "ls" and "cd" hehe16:29
MediocreNnot that i know of S016:29
TvL2386MediocreN, I see... Never had or seen that use case before :)16:29
wendicoeven when i type for example "man cd" i dont even understand the manuals16:29
MediocreNTvL2386: me either, i'd just split the file and then call it again. But i know my coworker has sever OCD and has gone down that road a few times16:30
MediocreNsevere*16:30
TvL2386wendico, no problem, we'll help with whatever question you have and am happy to do that :)16:30
wendicothank you very much16:30
TvL2386MediocreN, haha. Yeah just put the function in a file and source it, or put it in bashrc, or source it from there.... whatever.... :D16:31
MediocreNwendico: that will happen alot lol i highly recommend jumping into a few bash tutorials16:31
MediocreNthey will just make traversing / running shell commands a little more intuitive if you have a concept of what your trying to accomplish16:31
MediocreNrather than, this needs to happen, somehow16:32
freakynlHi, I just installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS fresh and updated it as a VMware VM. Gave it a reboot now, it's been hanging for over 5 minutes now on 'A start job is running for Unattended Upgrades Shutdown'. It's just been fully updated... Is this normal? It's a bare installed, removed open-iscsi (why is that running by default anyways?) and LVM (same question, don't use LVM) and nothing else yet.16:32
MediocreNfreakynl: i don't have an answer to actually make it boot. But once it does i believe i know whats going on.16:34
MediocreNi believe if you: sudo crontab -e and enter: @reboot /etc/init.d/unattended-upgrades start16:35
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MediocreNif should start that service at boot, and no longer have this wait timer16:35
TvL2386freakynl, I've installed a lot of 14.04 and 16.04 servers, but have never seen that16:38
TvL2386also don't know what you mean with "updated it as a VMware VM"16:38
TvL2386freakynl, btw: I always do `apt-get purge ufw` as soon as I've installed LTS :)16:40
wendicoi will look at some bash tutorials as suggested, see if i can understand something16:40
TvL2386wendico, good luck! If you have any questions regarding bash, don't hesitate to ask16:43
MediocreN^16:43
MediocreNbash can be a fickle bitch16:43
TvL2386^16:43
kidar_HI I HAVE A HP SERVER D160 AND I WISH TO INSTALL UBUNTU 16.06 please help. it has two hard drives which i would like to mirror.16:44
TvL2386kidar_, BUMMER, THAT UBUNTU VERSION DOES NOT EXIST16:45
ducasse!server | kidar_16:45
ubottukidar_: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04.1) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide - Support in #ubuntu-server16:45
tootheis there a grub configuration tool for Ubuntu?16:46
akikkidar_: check if you have a hw raid controller in that machine16:46
tootheI have FreeBSD installed on another partition.16:46
kidar_hi yes it does16:50
akikkidar_: ok it's a better option to mirror the disk with it16:50
kidar_what i want to know is how to silence the fan and get the most of the system16:51
kidar_i have mirrored using the raid card on that just wanted clarity if i did correct16:51
freakynlMediocreN: ? this is on shutdown, I've disabled it now16:52
kidar_basically i want to use this server as an ltsp server in a ubuntu traing envioroment16:52
freakynlTvL2386: I installed a lot of them too. I've seen this on all my VMware VM's running Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. Literally *all* of them, think 10+ by now16:52
MediocreNfreakynl: its probably from that service not being started at startup, so its not able to do its updates when you shutdown16:53
freakynlMediocreN: Ah, that could be. When I give it a reboot remotely though I don't want unexpected wait times anyways so it's better to turn it off, but it shouldn't happen16:53
akikkidar_: the machine is meant to be in a rack in a server room. i don't remember if you can silence it16:54
trailzzendhttp://pastebin.com/htvLK78e   - this is my netstat info - can someone glance and tell me all my connections look ok?16:54
trailzzendi am perpetually being eavesdropped by the suicide squad16:54
MediocreNfreakynl: in that case, you can just disable the unattended updates16:55
MediocreNthats a garauntee fix, however i believe my solution will work also16:55
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kidar_i loaded ubuntu mate on it and it is running. this is what i want to use in the training. should i format and install ubuntu server and the guis or leave it as it is16:57
scottjlif you're running a headless server, why install a gui?16:58
trailzzendso my netstat info looks normal?  #ubuntu-women-project16:59
trailzzendhttp://pastebin.com/htvLK78e16:59
scottjlyou have all the required CIA snoop ports open. looks good.16:59
trailzzendi dont gaf about the CIA17:00
trailzzendi just wan to make sense of the info17:00
szbHello everybody! I'm running 16.04 on my laptop and I'm having trouble establishing a bluetooth connection with my phone: Neither does the laptop pick up the phone (or any other devices) and the phone can't see it either. As far as I can tell the bluetooth controller is up and running. But I don't really know hot to troubleshoot this further, most of the links that I've found so far deal with the actual pairing process but not with the17:00
szbsituation I'm facing, that is the bluetooth adapter apparently being recognized by the system but not working for some reason... Can you give me any advise? :317:00
scottjltrailzzend: do you have an actual question?17:01
trailzzendmy question would be, is it safest to run a live version than run from my harddrive bc my HD is definitely messed up17:02
trailzzendvia DVD - than the HDD17:02
scottjltrailzzend: well if your HDD is "definitely messed up" then the answer would be a definite probably17:03
MediocreNhave you looked at smart info of the drive?17:03
trailzzendotherwise, i have noticed just weird files and folders.  One is "sniffjoke"  -17:03
trailzzendcan i fix my HDD - it asks for the password when i reformat it17:03
trailzzendand i dont have it because someone root-kit this laptop17:04
trailzzendso - no idea if i can wipe it17:04
MediocreNum17:04
scottjlif your HDD requires a password to reformat it, there is nothing we can help you with on this channel.17:04
MediocreNare you saying you need the sudo password?17:04
alexgrwhat is the most simple and efficient way to "tail -f" an "ls -lt" if you know what I mean ?17:04
trailzzendI have 5 partitions and i dont want them anymore, but they all have passwords making them untouchable17:04
scottjlso you can't boot a live DVD and wipe the HDD?17:05
trailzzendim very new but interested in learning what those letters mean.  i wish i could take a class... self-instruction is kinda hard in this field17:05
trailzzendi am using  a live DVD now of Kali17:05
naccalexgr: why would you tail follow a static output?17:06
daxI note that #ubuntu is for actual Ubuntu, not for random derivatives thereof. There is #kali-linux for Kali.17:06
trailzzendi cant delete or reformat any disks from booting into other OS - like Tails.17:06
trailzzendasks for Administrator Priviledged password17:06
MediocreNwell17:06
alexgrnacc:because I have processes creating files in that folder17:06
trailzzendi tried to find the kali-linux channel its +r17:06
naccalexgr: do you mean you want to `watch` `ls -lt` ?17:06
nacc!register | trailzzend: that's not an excuse.17:06
ubottutrailzzend: that's not an excuse.: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.17:06
trailzzendoh i didn't know how to do17:07
trailzzendthanks17:07
scottjltrailzzend: get a gparted live image, boot that, wipe hard drive.17:07
trailzzend!register #kali-linux17:07
MediocreNtrailzzend: also, i believe just dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=4M will blank that out17:07
MediocreNlike regardless17:07
alexgrthanks for the tip with watch17:07
trailzzendhow do you "wipe"17:08
MediocreNalthough that will blank out your partition running w/e your on now too, unless your on a live boot17:08
scottjlMediocreN: add count=1024 or something. unless you want to wait for the whole drive to be zeroed17:08
nacctrailzzend: no, read the message from ubottu.17:08
MediocreNscottjl: thats his goal tho right?17:08
BluesKajtrailzzend, do that in server textbox17:08
scottjlMediocreN: who knwos. he came in here asking us to verify his netstat output17:08
trailzzendtks17:08
MediocreNtrailzzend: do not run my ocmmand without knowing what it does17:08
MediocreNyou will delete everything17:09
MediocreNmake sure that is what you are trying to do17:09
trailzzendi am trying to delete everything, so thank you v m17:09
MediocreNi feel like i just deleted something important and im not even running commands :/17:10
scottjlMediocreN: that's what backups are for17:11
TvL2386what's a "backup"?17:11
MediocreNits a mythical thing told of in stories17:12
TvL2386isn't that when you `cp file file.old1`17:12
TvL2386MediocreN, oh that! like a unicorn17:12
MediocreNyeah, except unicorns exist in the wild17:13
MediocreNlol17:14
causativewhat's a good screencast program that supports recording to RAM?  I cannot record to disk, my disk is not fast enough17:15
causativebut I only need a few minutes of video17:15
aotaointbincausative: record to ramdisk.17:19
aotaointbincausative: then copy from ramdisk to secondary storage.17:20
scottjlaotaointbin: long time no see. how's your crippled system doing?17:20
MediocreNlol17:20
causativeaotaointbin, then what's a good screencast program that lets me choose the location to store the screencast?  kazam does not17:21
szbcausative, OBS Studio seems to have an option that might do what you're looking for (but i'm not sure): https://jp9000.github.io/OBS/features/replay.html17:21
aotaointbinwhere does kazam store the screencast?17:21
causativeI'm not 100% sure but I think in ~/Videos17:21
causativeunless that's just where it puts final outputs, idk17:21
aotaointbinback up your ~/Videos, replace it with a symlink to your ramdisk.17:22
szbcausative, it states that "as you start the buffer, OBS will start the recording but it wont save anything to your disk, until you press the "Save Replay Buffer" hotkey"17:22
MediocreNcausative: yeah OBS should be exactly what your looking for17:22
MediocreNgreat program.17:22
causativethanks, I used the ramdisk, worked fine17:30
lurklordSo I can choose between linux kernel 4.4 and 4.8 in ubuntu 16.04 right?17:41
alkisgRight17:41
lurklordI get it now, I was really confused.17:42
k1l_!rollinghwe | lurklord17:42
ubottulurklord: Since the release of 16.04.2, the setup for the !HWE kernel has changed. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/RollingLTSEnablementStack17:42
BlackDeathHi, how can i hide a second identical gpu Witz the xen pciback driver?17:43
posisn't the 4.8 kernel part of some non-lts release?17:43
k1l_pos: its the 16-10 kernel, yes17:43
posmeaning it will be unmaintained in less than a year?17:43
k1l_pos: look at hte bots link17:44
amflirwhat permissions are needed to prevent the user from renaming a directory (with mv)? currently for testing this, I create a directory with user root in the home directory of user foo and set the permissions to 000. The user can not cd into it but can still rename it!17:51
amflircd linux17:52
posare there any plans to bring wpa_supplicant 2.6 to xenial?17:55
posyou've upgraded networkmanager to 1.2.6, but unless you also upgrade wpa_supplicant to 2.6 a lot of those 1.2.6 features will be inert17:56
Wolfzrathi guys17:58
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LetterRiphi all, I seem to have misclicked and as a result none of my windows are shown in the panel, instead there is an icon that i can pop up a list of windows on the far right18:02
LetterRiphow do i change that back to the default behaviour?18:02
selahello18:03
Wolfzratis there a channel for bash on terminal?18:09
nicomachus##bash18:10
Wolfzratthank you and one for terminal cli?18:10
nicomachus!alis | Wolfzrat18:11
ubottuWolfzrat: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"18:11
OerHeks terminal cli ? terminal = cli18:12
Wolfzratawesome thank you18:12
Wolfzratlol i just wanted to say terminal @Oerhek18:13
nicomachusi really didn't understand the question. So to alis you go18:13
Wolfzratthanks nicomachus =)18:14
nicomachusunfortunately there are no channels specifically for ncmpcpp, so I'm going to have to ask here. I created a new 'bindings' file for key binds and made a few changes, but the changes don't seem to be taking effect. not sure if I need to put the location of the bindings file in the ncmpcpp config or what... the documentation is kinda thin on this18:16
applepiHi all..  is there an upstart pre-stop / post-stop equivalent that only fires on respawn?18:36
applepiI've got an conf that I want to sleep 60 seconds between respawn, but not wait 60 seconds to stop or start.18:37
naccnicomachus: http://rybczak.net/ncmpcpp/faq/ ? file an issue on mantis?18:41
nicomachusnacc: I don't think it's bug though...18:45
nicomachusI think I'm just missing a step and the documentation doesn't really offer any clues as to what18:46
naccnicomachus: i meant for support or anything -- i guess unless someone happens to know :)18:46
nicomachusUnless I file an issue saying that the documentation sucks18:46
* Artarian feels welcomed.18:48
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UNIcodeX_how can i reassign the Alt+click+drag in unity? I wan18:56
UNIcodeX_I want to do this because alt-click-drag in pycharm is not allowing me to do special select in the editor.18:57
xxcohi guys Do you know how to use "make install" to force overwrite old binaries in "/usr/local" ??18:58
naccxxco: completely depends on what you are building18:59
xryuuhello all! I'm running budgie ubuntu and my pc takes a bit to boot(30-45s), also after i login into ubuntu it takes about 20s to display the desktop. any idea how to solve this? New install, HDD, 32gb ram, gpu gtx970 and a Xeon for a proccessor19:00
xryuu*processor19:00
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antoniobeyahhello, it looks like there was an 16.04 lts release today/yesterday but I am unable to find the release notes- are they in progress?  https://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04/release-20170307/unpacked/19:02
antoniobeyahthat directory normally has a release_notes.txt but it is empty19:03
k1l_antoniobeyah: there was no release19:03
antoniobeyahhmm, there is a new ami out there in aws ami-2757f63119:03
naccantoniobeyah: hrm? those are cloud images, afaict?19:03
xryuuanyone?19:04
naccantoniobeyah: and not 'release' like normal -- i think they just get refreshed every so often19:04
naccantoniobeyah: may want to ask in #ubuntu-server19:04
antoniobeyahnacc: ok, thanks19:04
Bashing-omxryuu: See if 'blame' give ya any hints : http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/systemd-blame.html .19:05
OerHeksxryuu, what does " systemd-analyze blame " give you ?19:05
UNIcodeX_nevermind.... ccsm19:05
OerHeksand is your network wireless .. ?19:05
k1l_antoniobeyah: maybe you mean this? http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/19:05
xryuu0erHeks: can you remind me what the code for the pastebin is? so i can send you the link19:06
xryuuactually nvm19:06
antoniobeyahk1l_: thanks, that might be the ticket19:06
xryuuthe top two giving 10s+19:06
antoniobeyahlooks like I may have been looking in the wrong place19:06
xryuu 11.320s snapd.refresh.service and 10.394s NetworkManager-wait-online.service19:07
maarharthi, when I run ./configure it complains about not finding libraries that actually have been installed. how to solve this?19:07
elichai2hi19:07
nacc!compile | maarhart19:07
ubottumaarhart: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall19:07
elichai2I can't manage to change java version19:08
naccmaarhart: you would need to read what config.log says and see what it is failing to find19:08
elichai2even after I run: `sudo update-java-alternatives --set /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle`19:08
elichai2I still get:19:08
elichai2https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/IlVrYzBd/19:08
elichai2java -version19:08
elichai2java version "1.8.0_121"19:08
naccelichai2: why would you pastebin something and then paste it in the channel? :)19:08
elichai2it's a stupid client19:08
elichai2my mistake19:09
naccelichai2: what does `update-java-alternatives --list` say?19:09
naccelichai2: afaik, /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle is not from an ubuntu package, right?19:09
elichai2https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/jyAkT8XY/19:09
OerHeksmaybe ... /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java19:09
elichai2it is19:09
elichai2from oracle-java7-installer19:10
genewitchhow do i hold back kernel updates / or remove intermediary updates (i need 4.4.0 installed and used); also how do i enable the alt key to work in terminal as it is supposed to so i can switch windows in irssi19:10
nacc!info oracle-java7-installer19:10
ubottuPackage oracle-java7-installer does not exist in yakkety19:10
naccelichai2: --^ what version of ubuntu?19:10
elichai2https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java19:10
elichai2a ppa19:11
naccelichai2: right, not an ubuntu package19:11
naccelichai2: ppa != ubuntu19:11
elichai2ohh yes. I thought you meant from apt. sorry.19:11
xryuu0erHeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24140790/ the systemd19:11
naccelichai2: you could try passing -v to update-java-alternatives --set to see if it tells you what it does19:12
elichai2that's all: resetting java alternatives19:12
naccelichai2: does `which java` still point into /etc/alternatives/java ?19:13
elichai2no19:13
naccelichai2: taht is `ls -ahl $(which java)`19:13
elichai2 /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-oracle/bin/java19:13
naccelichai2: uh, then how do you expect alternatives to work?19:13
naccelichai2: you forcibly pointed your java there19:14
naccelichai2: which was wrong19:14
elichai2not that I remember19:14
naccelichai2: or maybe the PPA does19:14
naccelichai2: in which case, contact the PPA team19:14
elichai2how should I just change the ln?19:14
xryuuBashing-om: here's the systemd http://paste.ubuntu.com/24140790/19:14
elichai2(in /usr/bin/java and javac?)19:14
naccelichai2: non-trivial, as you need to chagne all of them various links19:14
elichai2wait, the ln is fine /usr/bin/java -> /etc/alternatives/java*19:14
naccelichai2: you just said it wasn't?19:15
elichai2that's the thing, 'which java' told me it wasn't but the /usr/bin/java is pointing to the right place19:15
maarhartnacc: for instance, it doesn't find expat19:15
naccelichai2: then you've mucked with PATH probably19:15
maarhartbut it is installed19:15
Bashing-omxryuu: I will look, but on networking issues, do not hold your breath .19:16
elichai2that may be right19:16
naccmaarhart: you'll need to read config.log and see exactly what it is trying to use to deduce expat19:16
elichai2because of JAVA_HOME that some apps require19:16
naccelichai2: don't do that unless you know what you're doing19:16
xryuuBashing-om: why's that?19:16
maarhartnacc: wher is that log situated?19:16
naccmaarhart: when you run ./configure, it generates a config.log in that directory19:16
elichai2the problem isn't knowing what i'm doing but *remembering* what i'm doing lol19:16
naccelichai2: you should not need to set JAVA_HOME explicitly in general19:17
OerHeksxryuu, what is the outut of : systemctl status snapd.refresh.service19:17
naccelichai2: and that still doesn't explain changing PATH in a non-good way19:17
elichai2I had it inside the .profile file19:17
elichai2export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-oracle19:18
elichai2and then added JAVA_HOME to the path19:18
naccelichai2: well that is nonsensical19:18
xryuu0erHeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24140834/ here's the systemctl19:18
naccelichai2: you should use update-java-alternatives to change the default java19:18
elichai2yes. but what about apps that require JAVA_HOME?19:18
maarhartnacc: http://paste.debian.net/91882019:18
elichai2and oracle themselves tells you to do that https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19182-01/820-7851/inst_cli_jdk_javahome_t/19:19
himahi there19:19
himawhen i issue ifconfig19:19
naccelichai2: oracle != ubuntu19:19
maarhartnacc: http://paste.debian.net/91882119:19
himai did not show network interfaces excpet lo   127.0.0.1 one19:19
naccelichai2: did you add it before or after $PATH?19:20
himaany help?19:20
beerayhi I am getting this when adding another interface on ubuntu16.04  service networking restart19:20
beerayJob for networking.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status networking.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.19:20
beeray 19:20
maarhartnacc: http://paste.debian.net/91882219:20
elichai2nacc: after19:20
naccmaarhart: i didn't say i would help you debug it :)19:20
naccmaarhart: but also that's not the whole file, or something else is wrong19:20
beerayand I need to create an interface for use on the system19:20
elichai2now I removed JAVA_HOME19:20
elichai2looks like it worked19:20
naccelichai2: the quite literal help you pointed me at, says to do it before19:20
naccelichai2: so you weren't following oracle's guide19:21
elichai2why do it before?19:21
naccelichai2: i have no idea, but if your'e going to point at a guide as why you did something, and then not do what that guide says19:21
maarhartnacc: it's not, but it's a big file19:21
nacci have no interest in helping :/19:21
elichai2you already helped. thank you :)19:21
naccmaarhart: yes, it will be quite large19:21
maarhartnacc: first half is http://paste.debian.net/91882419:21
naccmaarhart: just use pastebinit19:22
maarhartsecond half http://paste.debian.net/91882519:22
naccmaarhart: but again, i didn't say i'd debug this ...19:22
naccmaarhart: part of building sofware from source implies you're willing to get it to build19:22
naccmaarhart: and none of it is supported in this channel, technically19:22
maarhartokay, thanks nacc.19:22
maarhartI'm willing, this is the third day in a row with this thing.19:22
genewitchhow do i hold back kernel updates / or remove intermediary updates (i need 4.4.0 installed and used)?19:23
naccmaarhart: you're building for 64-bit windows?19:24
maarhartnacc: indeed19:24
ZewwyHeyo19:24
naccmaarhart: gl! :)19:24
ZewwyI'm trying to expand an existing volume that is a Ubuntu 16.04 server VM19:24
maarhartnacc: thanks19:24
naccgenewitch: that's the GA kernel19:24
OerHeksxryuu, i see a lot of 2016 bugreports, network not ready when snapd service starts .. and should be fixed by now. can you start the service? sudo systemctl enable snapd.refresh.service19:24
ZewwyWhy is it that you can't actuakllly expand an existing logocal partition?19:24
OerHeksor sudo systemctl start snapd.refresh.service19:24
naccmaarhart: your first paste has the issue19:24
Zewwyinstead I have to create another partition and, and then it expands a logival partition19:25
naccmaarhart: $PKG_CONFIG --exists --print-errors expat failed19:25
Zewwyhttp://www.geoffstratton.com/expand-hard-disk-ubuntu-lvm19:25
ZewwyThis is the first time ever I think Linux does something way worse than Windows19:25
naccmaarhart: you don't need expat but libexpat1-dev19:25
genewitchnacc: i don't know what that means. I need 4.4.0 because more recent kernels my screen flickers badly and the bug hasn't been tracked down upstream yet19:25
ZewwyWindows Disk manager makes expanding a disc partition soooo easy19:25
naccgenewitch: what kernel are you on now?19:26
jqAny idea of the cause of this error when running clamdscan? ERROR: Could not lookup : Servname not supported for ai_socktype19:26
genewitchnacc: 4.4.019:26
naccgenewitch: and you wnat 4.4.0?19:26
xryuu0erHeks: the first command you send me had an output http://paste.ubuntu.com/24140897/ although the second command had no output19:26
naccgenewitch: i'm not sure what the issue is?19:26
naccZewwy: do you have a support issue? or just complaining?19:26
OerHeksxryuu, then my 1st command was false :-(19:26
ZewwyI don't understand the concept of why this is, more off alearnign to why its so difficult when another OS made it so easy19:27
genewitchnacc: apt downloads and installs newer kernels, i want to remove 4.8.X and 4.9.X and stop it from installing those newer kernels automatically19:27
OerHeksxryuu, now chekc with status again ? systemctl status snapd.refresh.service19:27
fiteris there a way to see the previous commands given , I mean to move back in current session of terminal when a command covers the whole terminal ??19:27
xryuu0erHeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24140911/ here19:27
naccgenewitch: then don't opt-in to the hwe kernel19:28
nacc!hwe | genewitch: just remove those metapackages19:28
ubottugenewitch: just remove those metapackages: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack19:28
naccfiter: `history` ?19:28
k1l_fiter: shift+pageup19:29
ZewwyMy main question still stands, why can't one actually expand an existing partition, instead have to create a new partition to expand a logical volume19:29
elichai2ok, new problem :(19:29
beerayhi I am getting this when adding another interface on ubuntu16.04  service networking restart. Job for networking.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status networking.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details19:29
elichai2I need to install openjdk7 on Yakkety. not Oracle jdk7 but OpenJDK719:29
maarhartnacc: but I do have libexpat1-dev19:29
nacc!info openjdk-7-jdk yakkety | elichai219:29
ubottuelichai2: Package openjdk-7-jdk does not exist in yakkety19:29
fiterk1l_: shift+pageup also moves up upto a certain limit .19:30
Zewwyhttps://www.brianchristner.io/how-to-resize-ubuntu-root-partition/19:30
Zewwya little better but still painful complared to windows19:30
k1l_fiter: i dont really understand your issue there.19:30
fiterk1l_:  seeI was using working in linux terminal19:31
elichai2!info openjdk-7-jre yakkety19:31
ubottuPackage openjdk-7-jre does not exist in yakkety19:31
naccelichai2: why do you need jdk7?19:31
genewitchnacc: oh because i'm on 16.10 it's going to want to use 4.8. I guess i'll just manually edit grub and remove the packages. is there a way to disable kernel updates all-together?19:31
elichai2compiling AOSP19:32
elichai2Marshmallow19:32
genewitchi have a feeling this issue isnt going to be fixed until lenovo complains19:32
naccgenewitch: oh you're on 16.10?19:32
xryuu0erHeks: any idea what to do now?19:32
naccgenewitch: that's tricky, because if you stay on the 4.4 kernel, then you're not really on 16.1019:32
genewitchnacc: well, everything works properly19:32
naccgenewitch: and that kernel is not getting security updates on 16.10, so you're now vulnerable to CVEs19:32
math-alphahi all how do i migrate from ubuntu 14 to 1619:32
OerHeksxryuu, i don't understand this, networking is up, ..19:32
fiterthen I gave tree command to get tree for directories while in root directory and it gave long tree , now I am not able to see the previously given commands in the terminal19:32
k1l_math-alpha: sudo do-release-upgrade19:33
nicomachusfiter: you can check your bash_history file19:33
fiterk1l_:                                                                                                        ^^19:33
naccfiter: to see the commands, just hit up?19:33
dannyLopezI have this error and no find a valid information: rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1183) [sender=3.1.1]19:33
genewitchnacc: be that as it may, i literally cannot use this machine with >=4.8 kernel19:33
dannyLopezAny knows?19:33
naccgenewitch: then i suggest installing 16.04 :/19:33
genewitchwhich i did not know until after i upgraded19:33
naccgenewitch: easy enought to have verified with a live usb19:33
math-alphathanks KIl_19:33
naccgenewitch: or waiting until hwe comes out then testing, and then choosing to upgrade19:33
k1l_fiter: expand the limit of scrollback in the terminal settings. or us uparrow to reuse the command19:33
naccgenewitch: trust me, you don't want to run a kernel that is prone to vulernabilities (potentially)19:34
genewitchiirc 16.10 works fine on live USB, it's just installed it acts up19:34
anddamZewwy: does windows allows to extend the space of non contiguous partitions?19:34
Zewwyyes19:35
naccelichai2: I don't know what that is, but if you need jdk7, you should not have upgraded to 16.1019:35
Zewwyright click partition in disk maanger, expand, next, next, next done19:35
fiternacc:  I does not only want the list of commands but also the their output on my terminal19:35
Bashing-ommath-alpha: PPAs disbled - graphics driver - 15.04 fully ipdated and in terminal do ' sudo do-release-upgrade ' . But why leave a LTS release ?19:35
naccmaarhart: run that command locally, doe sit work?19:35
naccfiter: well, you didn't say that19:35
elichai2didn't knew I'll need it19:35
naccfiter: then you need to change your backscroll size19:36
naccelichai2: sorry, no jdk7 available offiically in 16.1019:36
elichai2is there a channel for openjdk?19:36
nacc!alis | elichai219:36
ubottuelichai2: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"19:36
fiternacc:  how this can be done ?19:36
math-alphaBashing-om how do you disable PPAs19:36
genii!ppa-purge19:37
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html19:37
Bashing-ommath-alpha: Desktop install then from software sources .19:37
naccfiter: in gnome terminal it's edit -> profile preferences -> scrolling19:37
math-alphaok but better if there was a written stuff its fast please19:39
maarhartnacc: what do you mean with running it locally? go to its folder and run it with ./ ?19:41
naccmaarhart: run that command that failed19:41
fiternacc:  and while I make a change here , this will work when I start the terminal again ?19:42
maarhartnacc: do you mean PKG_CONFIG --exists --print-errors expat ?19:42
Bashing-ommath-alpha: Fast and safe - no . Every system is different , You as the system admin have control .19:42
math-alphaBashing-om i mean the tuto is a bit fast for me19:43
math-alpha:)19:43
genewitchi think i am going to try updating the nvidia and intel GPU drivers outside of apt and see if that lets the 4.8 kernel work19:43
beeraypls help i created an interface using etc/network/interface. eth1 which is to use dhcp but ubuntu is saying unknown interface eth119:44
Bashing-ommath-alpha: Oh :) . Once you have done it a time or two is no big deal to revert the PPAs ( if any ) .19:45
beerayservice networking restart is saying failed because control process exited with error19:45
genewitchbeeray: do you have two ethernet devices?19:45
beerayone nic19:45
genewitchwell there you go19:46
beerayjust want to create another one to use for management with openvswitch19:46
Bashing-ombeeray: systemd ? see: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ .19:46
naccfiter: presuming you change your default profile19:46
naccmaarhart: yes19:46
math-alphaplease meaning of PPs19:47
Bashing-om!PPA | math-alpha19:47
ubottumath-alpha: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge19:47
math-alphasorry PPAs19:47
math-alphaok19:48
beerayBashin-om: what can i do to make this work, bcos I have edit the grub to use ethX naming before19:48
Bashing-ommath-alpha: Bit again, consider why you would want to leave a Long Term Support release ( 5 years ) for 16.10 (9 months ) .19:49
fiternacc:  so no chance to get the previous commands in current session of terminal ?19:49
fiternacc:  with their output on screen19:50
fiter??19:50
math-alphahmm Bashing-om i thought its the best :)19:50
math-alphaif any worry with it, i will not upgrade19:50
k1lfiter: increase the backlog of the terminal. then restart the terminal program.19:51
Bashing-ombeeray: Networking is not something I am good at . what release is this as 16.04++ there is no longer a ethX by default .19:51
Bashing-ommath-alpha: No worry .. just the headache to upgrade from 16.10 sooner .19:52
beeray16.04.2, I have changed the grub to use ethX. I have eth0 now and I want to create eth119:52
math-alphaok i will do it later then19:52
math-alphaBashing-om i am also interested in os dev can you advise?19:53
math-alphai think ubuntu is open source19:53
Bashing-ombeeray: In for a bit more work . to get the system to see eth one edits /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules .19:54
beerayok let me do that19:54
Bashing-ommath-alpha: Well, as to OS development . Mostly over my paygrade .19:55
math-alphayou mean..19:56
b0redAnyone here experienced with lxd containers with sqlite going from wal to memory mode and locking?19:57
b0redsome research is leading me to believe it has to do with the VFS filesystem19:57
currybulleni accidentally rm:ed a bunch of my files on an ubuntu server, i can't get in touch with the server administrator until tomorrow. is there some way i can check if the server utilizes som backup solution (to at least just ease my mind)?19:58
beerayBashing-om: the file is not present on the directory19:58
Bashing-ommath-alpha: I use it - I confgure to suit my needs - I beat on it ; but mostly what goes on in kernel space is a mystery to me .19:58
currybulleni've run 'apt list --installed | grep backup', which returns nothing19:59
beerayI only have 60-vboxdrv.rules present in the rules.d folder19:59
math-alphaBashing-om can you give me some of your tricks ? [teach me ?]19:59
Bashing-ombeeray: Yepper . path changed .. see the tutorial for where to make the edit .20:01
beeraypls where is the tutorial20:01
Bashing-ommath-alpha: Teach you about what - particularly  ? Open source one learns by doing .20:02
math-alphahmmm20:02
math-alphathat's true20:02
Bashing-ombeeray: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ .20:02
beerayI have checked but dont even know which one to change20:03
beerayi mean i have checked the link20:03
dannyLopezWhat is the mean of file has vanished?20:08
dannyLopezIn rsync20:08
Bashing-ombeeray: Best to work with systemd, but uf ya nust use the old naming convention, see the paragraph " I don't like this, how do I disable this? " .20:08
MediocreNdannyLopez: it means that it wasn't able to copy some files that it saw in the directory at the beginning of the transfer20:09
MediocreNeither they were moved or deleted before it got to those files, or they were tmp files that were just purged20:10
MediocreNyou can supress that error with the --exclude switch20:10
dannyLopezOnly in temp files?20:12
MediocreNdannyLopez: no, its ANY file that was there when it started to build the list of files to transfer, that was not there at the time it actually moved the files20:13
MediocreNdannyLopez: basically a file was in the directory when you pressed go, it was not there when rsync tried to copy them20:13
MediocreNusually, this is a tmp file20:14
SevTestexit20:18
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dannyLopezMediocreN: Gracias, I read the mail and all files ends whit a ~ And see the folder, and keep the real file Eg file.xml file.xml~20:23
beerayBashing-om: still no success,20:27
beeraystill not working20:27
Bashing-ombeeray: Sorry, network setup is not in my skill set .20:29
beerayok, thanks so much. though still need it to be fixed20:31
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ocxhi20:34
ocxwhat does /etc/sudoers.tmpes stand for?20:34
k1locx: looks like you changed that file and the editor created a backupfile20:35
ocxkil is it risky?20:35
OerHeksYou didn't run visudo as root.20:35
ocxOerHeks: but the file is there an it has a content20:36
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ocxis there a risk?20:37
k1locx: did you make changes at that file?20:39
ocxno20:39
k1locx: that file ist not a risk.20:39
ocxcan an attacker use that file?20:39
k1lno20:39
OerHeksis it .tmp or really .tmpes ?20:40
ocxwhat is the worst that can happen20:40
Picinothing.20:40
naccbeeray: what are you trying to do?20:40
beeraynacc: trying to add eth1 to ubuntu16.04.220:41
beerayand getting error20:41
naccbeeray: you don't generally add an ethernet device20:41
naccbeeray: that's what you have tried, what are you actually trying to do?20:41
beerayservice networking restart20:42
beerayJob for networking.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status networking.service" and "journalctl -xe" for details.20:42
beeraythat is the error20:42
ocxany sudi exploit?20:42
OerHeksocx, if we know, we won't tell you but file a bugreport20:43
OerHeksso should you20:43
k1locx: no known exploit.20:43
beerayi edit etc/default/grub and update the grub and roboot, so i then have nic naming from enps025 to eth0. I now want to add another eth1 so that I can use it with sflow and ovswitch for management20:44
naccbeeray: again, that's what you did, what are you *trying* to do20:45
naccbeeray: ok, reading that now20:45
beeraynacc:want to create eth1 for ovs and slow for management20:46
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naccbeeray: i'm not sure i understand (or perhaps you need to do more research on ovs)20:47
naccbeeray: typically, you would tell ovs what devices to use20:47
genewitchso i removed nouveau and installed the latest nvidia and intel GPU drivers, now i can't log in to desktop. It pops up, i type password, and it just goes black and pops the login screen up again20:47
naccbeeray: you don't add a new 'physical' device20:47
naccbeeray: unless you actually added a new physical device20:48
genewitchoh i probaby need the xserver20:48
naccbeeray: what guide or whatever are yousing to setup ovs?20:48
genewitchi did remove the xserver20:48
beerayi didn't add a new physical device20:48
naccbeeray: ok, then adding a new eth1 makes no sense20:49
beerayi followed the guide with sflow to be used with openvswitch20:49
naccbeeray: link?20:49
-qeirwiz:#ubuntu- Hi there! Please note that AlexZ on #wikipedia-en is a child molester.20:49
genewitchwhich xserver-xorg-video should i be using with the nvidia driver (although my intel GPU is the correct 2d gpu)20:49
scarybabyhello all20:50
beeraynacc:http://docs.openvswitch.org/en/latest/howto/sflow/20:50
-rkyio:#ubuntu- Hi there! Please note that AlexZ on #wikipedia-en is a child molester.20:50
naccbeeray: that guide requires two physical networks20:51
naccbeeray: "Two Physical Networks"20:51
scarybabyi'll be safe lol20:51
scarybabyi installed nginx and that works with no problems20:51
beeraynacc: I was thinking if it is possible to do all on a single host20:52
scarybabybut when I installed php and set up a test file, when i try to navigate to it, it keeps downloading the php file20:52
naccbeeray: having two physical networks has nothing to with the number of hosts20:52
beeraybecause I have virtual box with vm20:52
genewitchscarybaby: wrong mime type20:53
scarybabyi'm a n00b, so i'm going to need a little more. is this an issue with the types listed in the nginx config file?20:53
genewitchscarybaby: i.e. it's not executing php, so it's just a text file to the webserver20:53
scarybabyeven if i installed php.20:53
genewitchscarybaby: you need fastcgi or something like that installed too for nginx to serve php, ask in nginx or google "nginx php"20:53
genewitchnginx itself doesn't execute php, scarybaby20:54
scarybabyright, but I updated the config file to use fastcgi and I pointed to the php .sock file20:54
scarybabyor is that not what I was supposed to do20:55
scarybaby?20:55
beeraynacc:thanks, so there is no way around it20:55
naccbeeray: so it feels like you don't fully understand OVS, maybe -- you should first configure OVS and then you can configure sflow20:55
scarybabyalso thank you <genewitch>20:55
beeraynacc:I have configure both20:55
stratocastorNMQuestion: Anyone here have experience with zend modules? Specifically in relation to OpenEMR?20:55
naccstratocastorNM: zend as in php?20:55
stratocastorNMyeah20:56
stratocastorNMcant seem to get them going through apache20:56
naccbeeray: if you've configured ovs, then you shouldn't have an active eth0, you should have a br0 or so20:56
naccbeeray: bridging eth020:56
beeraynacc:I have even created bridge to use with the VM. I just want to use the sflow on the same host20:56
naccstratocastorNM: you might ask in a php channel, was why i asked20:56
beeraynacc:yes bridging eth0 to the bridge i created20:57
stratocastorNMGood point...20:57
stratocastorNMThanks20:57
naccbeeray: you might ask in #ubuntu-server, but the people i know that know ovs aren't necessarily online right now20:58
naccbeeray: or you might find an ovs channel20:58
nacc!alis | beeray20:58
ubottubeeray: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"20:58
naccbeeray: but afaict, it might work, if you just follow the same steps for host1 as on that page, but then do teh hostMon steps on the host21:00
naccbeeray: you could at least try that, it seems like21:00
naccbeeray: ah but that guide assumes you are setting the AGENT out on eth121:00
naccbeeray: um, not sure it's possible then21:00
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beeraynacc: i am thinking it is possible if I can add virtual interface eth1 , and I can then use it for the ovs sflow21:02
stratocastorNMphp channel kinda dead, any other good php channels?21:02
beeraynacc: I want to ask that does that mean I can add interface to /etc/network/interfaces other than the default ones21:03
naccbeeray: you would have to *create* the veth interface for that21:03
naccbeeray: /e/n/i does not create interfaces, it configures them21:03
OerHeksstratocastorNM, my advise, be patient there in #php21:04
naccstratocastorNM: if you are using ubuntu packages, you can ask here, too21:04
stratocastorNMYeah, will do! thanks21:04
beeraynacc: any idea on how to do that21:04
stratocastorNMgot everything installed ok, just a matter of configuration now21:05
stratocastorNMI used to work with linux many years ago, but my nursing career the last decade, lost some skills in computer land21:05
stratocastorNMI'm built my own server, will run my own electronic medical record system for me and my wife when we are done with FNP school in a year21:06
yyyyyI’m having a very weird issue here. A subfolder on one of my servers appears to mount root itself, though it's on a different volume on LVM.21:07
yyyyyas in… `/sub` is from `/dev/mapper/sub_vg` and `/` is on a “normal” disk as `/` from `/dev/sdx1`.21:08
toothedoes Ubuntu have a terminal network configuration tool to auto-DHCP on boot up?21:08
tootheright now I have no network setup.21:08
synaptichello21:08
synaptici need just a little bit help...  my bluetooth is not working on my linux mint 18 64bit  MATE21:08
synaptic( i think is same as ubuntu more or less)21:08
yyyyyif i go to `/sub` i can see `/sub/bin`, `/sub/usr` etc even though they should be only on `/`21:08
mcphailsynaptic: taht's a shame, but this is not the Mint support channel.21:09
yyyyyeven the kernel image is there.21:09
stratocastorNMtoothe, you on wifi?21:09
yyyyythere's no symbolic link and fstab has nothing. it's very disconcerting. `/proc/mounts` also shows nothing.21:09
yyyyyany clues?21:09
synapticmcphail: i know, im there, but nobody answer, so if somebody can help me here, would be nice for me21:09
toothestratocastorNM: no, network hardwire. Its a server.21:09
mcphailsynaptic: please read the /topic and do not ask fgor Mint support here21:10
yyyyyto be sincere, it's more like `/sub/some-folder/everything-that-should-be-on-root`21:10
synapticok mcphail21:10
synaptici try again,21:10
synaptici need just a little bit help...  my bluetooth is not working on my linux UBUNTU 18 64bit  MATE21:10
stratocastorNMsudo ip link set dev eth0 down21:10
stratocastorNMsudo dhclient eth0    jsut replace whatever your card is identified by21:10
stratocastorNMthen sudo ip link set dev eth0 up21:11
mcphailsynaptic: please play elsewhere21:11
stratocastorNMtoothe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic21:12
toothethank you!21:12
stratocastorNMwelcome21:13
dvdrwHow to read the data stream from a website?21:14
ppfdvdrw: e.g. using curl21:14
stratocastorNMsynaptic you still here?21:16
stratocastorNMno bluetooth at all? http://askubuntu.com/questions/787023/bluetooth-not-working-on-ubuntu-16-04-lts21:18
sintreblutooth seems hit or miss , do you have anything under its profile ?21:19
sintrei use kubuntu mostly21:19
sintrewhat happend some how was it thought of itself as a blue tooth device21:20
sintreonce i deleted it21:20
stratocastorNMhmmm21:20
sintrei could then sync other devices21:20
quesker_apt-get install audit was unhelpful, finally I realized it is auditd.  in the future is there some way to search?21:20
k1lquesker_: "apt search ...." or "packages.ubuntu.com"21:21
quesker_thanks21:21
quesker_No command 'apt' found...21:22
quesker_12.0421:22
k1lquesker_: uh21:22
sintrewhat?21:22
k1lquesker_: then use apt-cache21:22
quesker_that works.  thanks21:22
k1lthe "new" apt command was invented after 12.04 was released :) (btw 12.04 loses support next month)21:23
quesker_that's funny because I am developing a big app for 12.04 specifically  :)   I love managers21:23
nicomachusquesker_: may as well port that to 14.04 or 16.0421:24
k1lquesker_: uh21:24
quesker_security compliance checklists are provided for a specific os/version combo21:28
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Guest58144#JOIN xubuntu21:53
squinty  Guest58144,  /join #xubuntu21:54
ersoulhello, I have the following situation: I have no internet connection at my house, and I want to update my repositories information (just the packages info, not to upgrade them), so then I can select from synaptics which pacakges to upgrade or install. How would I accomplish this?21:58
sintreto update you need an internet connection21:58
sintrejust like to upgrade21:58
ersoulI forgot to say: to accomplish this through the usb memory21:59
sintresounds like a waste of time mission21:59
sintrebecause you'd still need internet to get the files21:59
sintreif it was some how macgyver able to do21:59
ersoulRight, but I have internet on my university.21:59
ersoul*at my university22:00
sintredrag you pc over to somebodies house that has internet22:00
sintrenotebook pc or desktop22:00
sintredrag either or there to campus , your paying for the internet22:00
ersoulits a desktop.22:00
sintrejust take a keyboard mouse and the tower22:01
sintrego to some cyber barissta22:01
sintreand just get to work lol22:01
sintreeasier than expoecting someone hereto spend hours trying to figure out some covert usb version way22:01
thesushimanoftaohello room22:02
ersouldamn, thats sad xD22:02
ersoulwell, thanks anyway...22:02
thesushimanoftaocan anyone tell me how to access my /root dir on 14.04 using live CD.22:02
thesushimanoftaoit has filled up and i need to clean it and i cannot get my system to boot22:02
sintreersoul > not to offend you but don't expect us to come up with some bizaree solution to your get in your car and do it22:03
bazhangsintre, he is gone22:03
bazhangsintre, there are solutions, and your sarcasm is out of place here22:04
sintreso 20 minute of effort on his part to go to his campus is worth hours of troubleshooting from other people?22:05
sintreif i'm not welcome i'll leave22:05
bazhangsintre, if you have nothing useful to say, then dont add here, we dont put a clock or conditions on support here22:06
sintreactually bazhang i've done a nice job of troubleshooting people , i'd prefer THEM not to wste thier time as well22:07
sintreagain if i'm not welcome i won't assist in channel22:08
bazhangsintre, that's fine; but dont push others out if you have no solutions22:08
Bashing-omsintre: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. See also APTonCD .22:08
Bashing-omSee also: apt-cache show apt-offline <- apt-offline can fully update and upgrade an APT based distribution without connecting to the network .22:09
sintrehe said he had NO INTERNET ACCESS22:09
bazhangnot to mention sneakernet22:09
bazhangsintre, yes, and there are plenty of solutions for that22:09
sintreand that is magick internet?22:10
bazhangsintre, you should have a read of the ubuntu help pages and wiki before responding in future22:10
thesushimanoftaodont suppose i could become a better topic22:10
thesushimanoftaocd root22:11
squintythesushimanoftao, ubuntu chroot livecd  -> google those terms22:11
`evlyou need to mount the hard drive your OS is intalled on, from the live cd yes? thesushimanoftao22:12
Bashing-omthesushimanoftao: Can you not boot to grub -> recovery -> clean  (try to make free space) ?22:12
thesushimanoftaoi am getting a kernel man ic unable to mounf fs error22:13
thesushimanoftaoi have mounted the local HD from live cd  am unable to access the /root so i can delete some image files22:14
`evleven as root?22:14
genii /root is not the same as /22:15
`evlis the drive encrypted?22:15
thesushimanoftaoi am using a stock distro of ubuntu studio 14.04 lts22:16
thesushimanoftaoit set up a small partition that the upgrades use22:16
thesushimanoftaoi faile to do complete updates a couple times, failed to autoclean, and hosed myself22:17
thesushimanoftaoi have it mounted, just need to access and delete files22:18
`evlsudo nautilus22:18
`evlor gksudo nautilus22:19
k1ldont run sudo with gui22:19
Scoop7Hey, my cpu goes from 55 to 71 when working , 1~3 phpstorms, ff and chrome with multiple tabs  . My laptop is being keepted above the ground about 10cm, was wondering if I would buy a cooling pad is there any chance that I can expect a increase in performance ?22:19
Scoop7kept*22:20
`evlk1l, suggested to help access /root22:20
stratocastorNMMight help keep a little cooler, wont affect performace. Could tear it apart and replace thermal paste, blow out any dust, etc22:20
`evl^best responce Scoop722:21
bazhangstratocastorNM, thats a ##hardware topic22:21
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stratocastorNMYeah, dont know enough to direct him to appropriate place22:22
Scoop7http://imgur.com/a/Xjpke22:22
bazhangstratocastorNM, in future, use alis; /msg alis list hardware , for example22:22
OerHeksScoop7, sounds like normal temps to me22:23
OerHekscheck the specs of your cpu :-)22:23
stratocastorNMawesome, thanks bazhang22:23
Scoop7OerHeks: http://imgur.com/a/O4WEW22:27
Scoop7it's realy geforce 840m, but I think the gpu doesn't play a role here22:27
Scoop7i think the 16.04 lts is unstable22:27
`evlseems normal22:28
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`evlwait, no, i take that back, i recommend bazhang response now22:28
`evlstratocastorNM, hows it working for you?22:29
Scoop7it's OS related guys! :D22:29
stratocastorNMwhat? amazon?22:29
`evlhuh? stratocastorNM22:30
stratocastorNMhows what working for me?22:30
stratocastorNMlol22:30
`evlstratocastorNM, your issue with your system22:30
OerHeksintel i7  5500u Max. operating temperature105 °C  - lolz you can cook an egg on that22:30
OerHeksScoop7, it might be the internal intel 5500 gpu22:31
stratocastorNMmeh, on php channel now, not a lot of help there22:31
* `evl not familiar enough with intel22:31
stratocastorNMI was told they do php development help only, no configuration, that I should rtfm.22:32
nicomachus!language22:32
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OerHeksScoop7, it is not os related, those nubers from your first photo looks fine to me22:32
OerHeksstratocastorNM, tried #ubuntu-server too ?22:32
stratocastorNMuh oh.. sry22:32
`evlthesushimanoftao, did you figure out your issue...22:32
thesushimanoftaosudo got me into nautilus22:33
stratocastorNMyeah, on there as well now, just built a new little server last night, going to trasnfer over DB and webfils over in the next couple of days22:33
Scoop7i remember on win10 getting blue screens when  using torrent using wi-fi and nothing when using via ethernet cable. And the internet said that the problem is my wi-fi drivers or the hardware and the torrent just worked as a catalyzator, but when downloading anything on full speed via e.g. everything was fine even via wi-fi  and on 8 was until the f22:33
Scoop7orced 10 update. On ubuntu don't have these wi-fi torrent problems :)22:33
thesushimanoftaoi may have deleted the wrong files22:33
thesushimanoftaogrrrr22:33
`evlstratocastorNM, wait i guess i read the ame wrong, lol i meant to ask that to thesushimanoftao22:33
thesushimanoftaothanks ev122:33
stratocastorNMlol22:33
Scoop7OerHeks: but I also have 840m geforce gpu, maybe I should try to switch to it :?22:34
`evlstratocastorNM, yea, my bad lol22:34
`evlthesushimanoftao, have you used bleachbit/22:34
thesushimanoftaoonly to scrub drives beyond comprehension.  I am hoping i dont have to start over yet22:35
Scoop7do you guys also afraid to  sudo apt-get update like me? :D22:36
`evlbleachbit cleans the /tmp files for moany applications22:36
naccScoop7: apt-get update doesn't change anything except your local cache22:36
`evlScoop7, not on arch but ubuntu i was before i swithed lol22:36
`evldist-upgrade i assume you mean22:37
Scoop7yh dist22:37
thesushimanoftaofor the record i was using the software automatic update, i also do apt-get update22:37
k1lScoop7: "sudo apt update" will only get the list from the repos.22:37
thesushimanoftaoit was when i did not select all that things went wonky22:37
`evli wrote my own update script for ubuntu22:38
k1lScoop7: "sudo apt full-upgrade" will install the new updates, that were found on the repos.22:38
OerHeksthesushimanoftao, then fix it22:38
k1lScoop7: and apt will not bring you from 16.04 to 16.10 on ubuntu.22:38
thesushimanoftaoHerr Oer guten abend22:38
naccScoop7: dist-upgrade isn't a release change, and isn't really needed anymore (as k1l is saying)22:39
nacc`evl: why would you do that?22:39
thesushimanoftaoi am working on fixing it now, thank you to the many22:39
Scoop7i am afraid it might mess any dependencies with my drivers or softwares for e.g. I am worry that my laravel project could break :/22:39
k1lScoop7: ubuntu doesnt change the version of a project once its released.22:40
Scoop7Yeah one of the main reasons i switched from Bill22:40
`evlk1l, isner a package ignore option?22:40
`evlis n't22:40
`evlthere22:41
`evlomg, keyboard22:41
k1l`evl: you can manually hold packages, yes. but ubuntu only ships updates for security and heavy bugfix reasons. so the long run should be to install those updates.22:42
`evlnacc my update script, was to for manual automation. it was to do all the actioans available automatically but only when i run the script22:42
semitoneshey is there a guide for setting up sensord for ubuntu server?22:42
nacc`evl: there are two commands to run; did you really need to script them?22:42
Scoop7at the end win10 seemed like a annoying spyware/ad system with enforced updates and permission problems, forced restarts and on the other hand you couldn't last like 1 month without  a restart on a win10 - mission impossible probably .....22:42
`evlautoclean and autoremove was in my script22:42
nacc`evl: autoclean on every update is ... overkill22:43
`evli only run it once a week22:43
nacc`evl: autoremove is probaby reasonable, or you can just have unattended-upgrades do it for you22:43
nacc`evl: you should be keeping your system up to date more often than once a week22:43
`evlmy script i only do once a week, forotherwise daily i mannually run update and upgrade22:44
Scoop7Q: how can I change first day of the week to monday?22:44
nacc`evl: oh i see, sorry, that wasn't clear before :)22:44
k1lScoop7: where?22:44
Scoop7I searched all the settings with no results....22:44
Scoop7in my ubuntu 16.04 lts built in calendar22:45
`evlk1l,  unattended-upgradesi havet used that before, does it require a manual run or?22:46
nacc`evl: as the name implies, unattended-upgrades is unattended22:47
nacc`evl: runs in the background as specified in its config22:47
`evlwow, im blind as Fkkk today22:48
k1lScoop7: afaik, that is set with the language settings standard.22:48
`evlnacc, where is that confexactly?22:49
`evlapperently i have this installed but its like it doesnt run22:50
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nacc`evl: apt-file list or dpkg -L unattended-upgrades --> /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades22:50
MediocreNnacc: is his issue the wait timer on shutdown/bootup with unattended?22:51
tootheSo, I'm reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic22:53
tootheIs there a tool to configure this?22:53
naccMediocreN: not that i know of22:53
naccMediocreN: what issue is that? is there a bug filed?22:53
nacctoothe: network manager?22:53
nacctoothe: nmcli / nmtui22:54
`evlapt-file i like... thanks22:57
MediocreNnacc: i havent seen one filed, but i've seen people have been having issues with it the last few days22:57
MediocreNjust adding that service to start on boot fixes everything22:58
naccMediocreN: always good to get a bug filed by one of those people, if possible22:58
naccMediocreN: ah it's trying to stop a service it never started?22:58
`evli dint have apt-file installed..22:59
`evllol22:59
MediocreNnacc: yeah, it sits there with a x/no limit timer too22:59
MediocreNits really shitty22:59
nacc`evl: not installed by default23:00
`evlmakes snese23:00
naccMediocreN: oh i see, it's a oneshot on shutdown only23:01
naccMediocreN: unattended-upgrades itself is not a service23:01
naccMediocreN: looks like it logs, /var/log/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrades-shutdown.log23:02
MediocreN i believe if you: sudo crontab -e and enter: @reboot23:02
MediocreN                   /etc/init.d/unattended-upgrades start23:02
MediocreNit works as normal now23:02
naccMediocreN: that's not necessary23:02
naccMediocreN: something else is the actual root cause, i believe23:02
MediocreNoh, sorry didnt read your message23:02
OerHekswhy messing with unattended updates at all?23:02
naccMediocreN: as that service is what is waiting for an unattended upgrade to finish23:03
naccOerHeks: dunno, i was just told there was a problem with it23:03
MediocreNhmm, so mine is merely a work around, and even then wouldnt work if you shutdown right after boot23:03
naccMediocreN: right -- aiui, everything is working as designed, but for some reason there is a pending unattended-upgrade that your system was waiting on23:04
MediocreNi've seen 4-5 people in the last week with this issue, 2 of them being today23:04
naccMediocreN: interesting23:04
OerHeksimpatience .. happens all the time.23:04
naccMediocreN: well, if they show up again, ping me, I'd liek to help debug it23:04
MediocreNi will do it was23:04
MediocreNhmm23:04
MediocreNhe isnt in chat anymore nvm23:05
MediocreNfreakynl was the users name23:05
`evlnaac apt-file list or dpkg -L unattended-upgrades23:07
`evlUnknown option: L23:07
`evlohh, nvm23:07
naccMediocreN: ack, thanks23:08
nacc`evl: sorry, was in a hurry23:08
`evlits cool, i realzed the or after and was like, oh, facepalm23:09
OerHeksMediocreN, Yes ir ead him, vmware install, then claims It's a bare installed .. then 2 vm's .. then 10 vm's .. then differences between hyperv/vmware .. and on top of that: Server only has 256M .. /facepalm23:10
xetHey, I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 on my Asus Laptop and the sound is quite strange. Although the stereo works perfectly, my headphones only manage to produce some noises. How do I work this around?23:31
Chloe__thats odd23:31
OerHeksxet, i use clementine for music, excellent equaliser23:38
xetOerHeks, what do you mean?23:38
xetAny sound is noisy, distorted, from youtube videos to downloaded music :(23:39
OerHeksxet, standard settings are dull indeed23:39
OerHeksoh, no, that is not regular behaviour23:39
xetI wish it was just poor sound quality from a music player :/23:40
carlfI feel like I must be missing something. I have a service that starts via /etc/init/rc as a SysV init script. The upstart job that sets a sysctl I need seems to be running after it. Is there a simple way to fix that? Nothing coming up via google.23:40
geniicarlf: /etc/init is where upstart stuff is. /etc/init.d is where sysvinit stuff is23:43
carlfI know. The problem is that /etc/init/rc which runs the SysV stuff runs before procps which runs sysctl. I need sysctl to run before mysql starts. I'm trying to do this without editing packaged files but I haven't found a way thus far.23:43
OerHekscarlf, on what ubuntu version?23:45
carlf14.0423:45
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OerHeksoh oke, no systemD situation23:45
carlfYeah. We are working on switching to the next LTS but this box is not there yet.23:46
Scoop7is 16.10 stable yet?23:47
naccScoop7: i mean, it's released, yes23:48
naccScoop7: what do you mean by "stable yet"?23:48
OerHeksLTS is stable23:48
k1lScoop7: 16.10 is stable since october 201623:49
OerHeks16.10 is fine too, though23:49
Scoop7I m currently on 16.04 lts and wondering should I switch to 16.10 for better stability. security n even performance, better compabilty ?23:49
naccScoop7: no23:49
geniiScoop7: Interim releases (non LTS releases) cannot really be considered stable, since they are for incrementally adding features which will be in the next LTS. Which might still be works-in-progress23:49
naccScoop7: it is not 'better' stability security or performance, I would argue23:49
naccScoop7: compatibility can be achieved with !hwe23:49
naccScoop7: without leaving LTS23:49
k1lScoop7: if you leave 16.04 you will have to update to the next release every 6 months.23:49
Scoop7ok so I will stay i guess then :) Thanks for advices23:50
Scoop7detailed explanation*23:51

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