[08:54] <duflu> mpt: (sorry, I haven't seen or found design docs in a long time) is there any surface type that never gets keyboard focus?
[08:54] <duflu> I mean I need one that can be on top but not get keyboard focus to support X apps
[09:02] <mpt> duflu, yes, the “gloss” and “tip” types are unfocusable, and an app/toolkit should be able to specify whether a particular “freestyle” window is unfocusable. <https://goo.gl/VWvXTA>
[09:02] <duflu> mpt: Excellent, thanks
[10:20] <RAOF> duflu: The thought occurs that you could also do this with arranging streams inside the window...
[10:21] <duflu> RAOF: Perhaps, but I can do the same with XComposite. Both have the downside of only working correctly if the child overrideRedirect is within the parent
[10:21] <duflu> Assuming we fix our MirWindow clipping
[10:22] <RAOF> It's an open question whether that's “fix” or not :)
[10:23] <duflu> RAOF: You mean we should support streams outside their window?
[10:23] <RAOF> Correct.
[10:23] <duflu> Maybe
[10:23] <duflu> *shruf*
[10:23] <RAOF> Yeah.
[10:23] <duflu> *shrug*
[10:23] <duflu> At least not give each stream a titlebar
[10:23] <RAOF> Last time I checked each stream didn't get a titlebar :)
[10:24] <duflu> Well that's good.
[10:24] <RAOF> It's a perfectly sensible thing to do (it gets you nice things, like client-side shadows working correctly). It's also a perfectly sensible thing to want to prohibit.
[10:24] <duflu> I'm randomly reminded I would like to implement MIR_CLIENT_PERF_REPORT=in_titlebar
[10:25] <duflu> Client-side shadows are a bug, not a feature
[10:25] <duflu> The compositor can't join them and do proper 3D arrangement
[10:25] <RAOF> This is true.
[10:25] <duflu> I strive to fix that
[10:31] <duflu> That said, dumb shadows as part of your decoration are beautifully simple and efficient
[10:33] <anpok_> similar to other types of client side bling bling..
[10:33] <anpok_> like .. ambilight..
[10:34] <anpok_> if you ever want to watch movies not fullscreen..
[10:35] <duflu> Don't know. I need to EOD at some point